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The
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Bugle. Audio newspaper for a
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visual world. Hello, Buglers,
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and welcome to issue 4,279 of the world's last remaining
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fully illustrated weekly transcript of
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everything that's been said and done on
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the solar system's most popular, populous
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and pop-tacular planet. Earth, that is. Actually,
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I haven't checked the latest rankings, we might have slipped back down again.
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I am Andy's Altman, and today,
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in what remains a tricky time for this
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planet, I'm joined by two voices
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of wisdom and reason in a universe
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where both of those qualities
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are in very short supply. From a stone's throw
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away, if you can throw a stone two
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and a bit miles, it's Nish Kumar, and
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from a catapulted badger's flight away, if you've
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got the right catapult, a correctly greased badger,
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and get lucky with the Gulfstream headwinds in Brooklyn,
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it's Hari Kondabolu. Hello, both of
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you. Hey, hey Andy, hey Nish.
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Hello Andy, hello Hari, hello Buglers. Er,
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greased badger was your wrestling name, wasn't it, Zazie? It
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was, yeah, yeah. Ha ha ha ha ha! Ha
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ha ha ha ha! Um, very
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successful I was, uh, in
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those days. How are you both? How
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dare you, how dare you ask me that?
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Ha ha ha ha! To be honest. How dare
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you? It is about time someone responded
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to that kind of question with that kind of answer,
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because... I'm just so sick
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of it. Yeah. I
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was at the coffee shop recently, and
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the barista, he asked me, hey,
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how you doing? And I decided to answer,
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honestly, don't do that. Ha
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ha ha ha! You cannot, there is,
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it is very hard to recover, and
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the person has to ask
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you what you want to order, and the whole thing's a mess,
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and the people behind
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you are freaked out, it's just... Ha
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ha ha ha! Just say, say fine, and
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get your latte and move on. Yeah, it's been a pretty
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shit October. What is this October
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rate you're thinking in shittest ever Octobers? It's gotta
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be right up there.
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It's not going to go down in history
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as one of our better Octobers. That's what
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I would say. I
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think, well, when the history
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books are written and then immediately
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burned for warmth during the road war, they
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will not be kind about the
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month of October in the year of our
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Lord 2023.
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Well, luckily then, we are bidding
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October 2023 a hearty f***
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off because we are recording on the 30th of October.
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By the time you listen to this, it may
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very well be November 2023. We
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are recording, well, of course, tomorrow,
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the 31st of October 2023. It
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will be the 2007th anniversary of
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when a teenage Jesus, miracles a pumpkin
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into a lampshade and temporarily
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turned his mate John into a sexy vampire. On
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the 1st of November 1512, truly
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momentous day, the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel
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was exhibited to the public for the first
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time, Michelangelo's famous
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piece of DIY. Reactions and
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reviews on social media at the time, well,
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it's fair to say, well, mixed as reactions on social
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media tend to be. They included
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more cocks and balls than I was expecting from
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the ceiling. Another person wrote,
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I've heard it's good, but I haven't seen it yet. Classic
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social media reaction. Someone
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else wrote, absolute rubbish. The
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way they used to do ceilings was way better. Again,
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these things just don't change through time. Another
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comment was why the modern artists insist on painting
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people how they actually look these days. What's wrong
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with painting simplified stylized versions of
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a human face and form pretentious, pretentious,
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elitist and above all woke one star
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again, just classic from social media. Another
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person wrote, I'm going to kill you, Michelangelo, you
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something I never change. And
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another response was, do you like betting? If you want
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the best odds on how many people will die in the next cholera
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outbreak in Rome, click here. So
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we'd like to think that civilization progresses,
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but maybe it doesn't. As a special treat,
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bonus extra
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at the end of today's show, we will play you the full
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story.
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of how Michelangelo
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painted the Cestine Chapel,
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how he replied with an emphatic that I can
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do to Pope Julius II's question, can
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you paint that ceiling bud, has
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revealed exclusively way back in issue 34 of
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the bugle, so bonus blast from the past
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at the end of today's show. Is
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that Mickey paintbrush by any chance? It is,
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yes. Issue 34,
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it's quite early on. That takes
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me back to listening to the bugle in
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the toilet at one of my pet jobs. That's
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the best way to listen to it. It's
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the recommended setting. It
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takes 9 pounds an hour and taking
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a dump whilst listening to Zoltzmann. Taking
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a shit, hearing some shit is good. Well
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as always a section of this podcast is going straight in
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the bin this week. Well a Halloween section, as
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I mentioned this is the anniversary of that famous
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day in the young Jesus' career. We
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have some Halloween facts for you. Halloween
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fact one, statistically you're actually no
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more likely to be haunted on the
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31st of October than any other day
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of the year these days. But the
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reason Halloween became associated with ghostly
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behaviour and hauntings was because the
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ghosting year traditionally ended
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on the 31st of October and ghosts with unused
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quotas of hauntings would splurge in
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the last couple of days of the ghosting year.
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However the International Association of Spectres Ghouls
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and Spookery introduced new measures in the early
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19th century in an attempt to spread hauntings more evenly
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through the year. I think I did something with something
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similar with car number plates in this country at one point.
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The first known example of a ghost haunting someone on
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the 31st of October was the spectra of an old
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woman called Enid who accidentally haunted
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her friend Brian in the 1700s after
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getting confused with some paperwork on the other side
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hence the term Halloween. As Brian
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thought it was a... I'm
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right back in that office toilet Andy.
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Yeah, but the thing is when you're
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on the toilet it's at least a relief-ness. But
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the only difference is back then I was avoiding doing
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my job and now somehow in
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the intervening 13 odd years this has moved
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into being my job.
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And finally, why
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have pumpkins become associated
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with Halloween? Well apart from that Jesus incident, it's
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because the Roman Emperor stopped a cocculus
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in Pertanax, attempted to get the troubled
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Roman economy back on track on the
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30th of October in the year 372 by replacing all coins
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with pumpkins. After
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the people of Rome found the new country would not fit
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into the pockets of their cobras, there were riots which
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resulted in stropped a cocculus fleeing the city
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in disguise dressed as a zombie bride. Romans
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then used their now worthless pumpkins as candle
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holders, hence the term burning through money. Those
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are your Halloween facts in this week's
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section in the bin.
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That Jesus incident was the working title
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of the New Testament wasn't it? I
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thought it was 12-1-1. I'm
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back in the toilet! That
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is a long call back. That
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was actually in Top Stories last week I put that episode
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in. Ah there we go! Well,
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small world. I
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consider myself a key
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archivist of the vehicle. I
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consider my role to be making long
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call backs to things that I heard 13 years
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ago when I should have been
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doing some admin for Hammersmith Council. Is that
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why that bridge is
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still?
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I've been close for about five years now. I
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was shocked by the fact that to
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be an archivist that means you actually have to listen to the show,
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right? Yeah, sorry, yes. We
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can return to the other key rip. The Harry
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Potter value does not and has never been.
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I will never listen to the vehicle. Not
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interested, too newsy. Very cool,
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very cool. It's not for everyone, are
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it? No shame in that. Definitely
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not for me. We don't try to be for anyone. Occasionally
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we don't try to be for anyone. And
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that's when we dominate. You've
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heard of something for everyone. This is
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nothing for everyone. That
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is true democracy.
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Stop story this week. Well,
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the world is still pretty f***ed. There's no
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real way of sugarcoating this, even
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by the pitiful standards of this irredeemably
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idiotic millennium. These last few weeks have
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pushed the boundaries of bleakness for everyone who clings
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to the romantic idea that at some point in our existence humanity
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will stop working against our own self-interest.
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But that point has not yet come. If
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you want a reliable update on the Middle East situation,
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A. I sincerely hope you're not listening to this show in expectation
9:03
of that. And B. Good luck. Hari,
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what's the... We've
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not had anyone from America on since
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the war started. What's
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been the reaction stateside?
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I think a lot of Americans
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are supporting
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Israel. Initially, I did
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too. You have to understand the kind of news
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coverage that we're getting of what happened. I
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mean, the video we were all
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shown of what happened on October 7th, the
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Hamas attack, it was just jarring.
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People storming through heavily fortified walls, killing
9:39
people in the most brutal animalistic
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ways. All of them being led by
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some man named the Night King, who
9:46
was attempting to destroy humanity
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with the undead. Really
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compelling stuff. So of course, with that biased
9:53
video, of course we all supported
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Israel. That's a Game of Thrones joke.
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You guys remember... game of thrones it
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was it was it was a TV series about
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British history I just think
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I got some of the key facts wrong in it unfortunately
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hurry you're talking to two men one of whom was not watched
10:14
Game of Thrones in spite of everything about
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his vibe and let's not be around the bush body
10:19
type and another man who literally only
10:21
who literally only watches cricket so
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half the audience is
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gonna be confused and
10:28
the other half offended I
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got both targets I
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mean he demographics the funniest
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thing about that is like I it
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was I was obviously joking because Americans
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don't follow the news and they
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have no perspective on it I'm sure there
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were tons of people last night who went
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oh no Matthew Perry died first
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Gaza and now this
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I mean it's I think probably been the in the 20
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plus years I've been doing
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comedy I can't remember finding things harder than the last the last few weeks
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have you found that yeah as
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well it's been very difficult and I
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think that the presence of social
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media doesn't help things it's very important that
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we continue to stress that you have to be critical
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about the information you receive especially
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on the website formerly known as Twitter and Twitter website
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formerly known as Twitter given that a
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man bought it because everyone was calling him
11:27
a flat-faced anus and then fired
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on the content moderator so you have to remember we
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have to engage with that information critically I
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also keep reading things saying you know the most
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important thing is you must not remain silent on this
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issue silence is complicity
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silence is complicity you can't
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remain silent on this issue and I
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started to think you know what maybe silence is complicity
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maybe you can't be silent on this issue and
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then I saw a man on
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British morning television called
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Richard Maydly interview a liberal democrat
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MP called Leila Moran now she's a British politician
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who has family in Gaza and she
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did what I think we've been all agreed is quite a brave
12:04
thing which was to go on the news and humanize some of the
12:06
people that are being dehumanized
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most routinely in the media namely members
12:11
of a family that are caught in Gaza
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and she was asked by Richard Maydly did
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any of your family know that the Hamas attack
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was going to happen and when Richard Maydly said that
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I thought you know what some people need
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to shut the f*** up. Sometimes
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silence is not complicity it is merely
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an accurate appraisal of the complexity of
12:29
events relative to your own intellectual inadequacy.
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It says everything about the British media that Richard
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Maydly who's a journalist a word I'm using incorrectly
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is allowed to opine on this subject and
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I asked my friend who died and allowed Maydly
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to have an opinion and my friend reminded me that
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technically the person I'm referring to is
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Piers Morgan because he had that job
12:50
before Richard Maydly before he had to leave
12:52
it after he saw a picture of a black woman and went mentally
12:55
ill but saying
12:57
that Richard Maydly is preferable to Piers
12:59
Morgan is a bit like saying well technically I'd
13:02
rather have Salmonella than E. coli. They
13:04
are five evidence
13:06
of a fundamental problem that
13:08
cuts to the very heart of our media
13:11
and it's very much a case of between
13:13
Piers Morgan and Richard Maydly for American listeners if
13:15
you're wondering is one better than the other it's very much
13:17
a Sophie's choice but you want both the kids
13:19
to die.
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One of the big arguments of the
13:25
last week has been Israel versus
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the United Nations and the
13:30
United Nations Secretary General Antonio Gutierrez
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who I think is now 1% human being 99%
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sad face emoji. He's
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found himself at loggerheads with Israel.
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Israel called on him to resign saying
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that his words had constituted a justification
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for terrorism and murder
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that this was after Gutierrez said
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that the Hamas attacks did not happen in a vacuum
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and referred to the suffocating occupation
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of Palestine. Put this in context. Was
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Guterres justifying terrorism and murder? Let's
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look at some of the other things he's said over
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the last three weeks, on the 7th of October,
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the day of the attacks. He condemned
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in the strongest possible terms this morning's attacks
14:12
by Hamas. On the 9th of October, he said, Let
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me begin by repeating my utter condemnation
14:16
of the abhorrent attacks by Hamas.
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Nothing can justify these acts of terror, killing,
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maiming and abduction of civilians. I reiterate
14:24
my call immediately to cease these attacks
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and release all hostages. He also said
14:28
on the 9th of October, Israel must see its legitimates
14:31
need for security materialized. On the 13th,
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he referred to the horrific terror attacks by
14:36
Hamas and called on all leaders to speak
14:38
out against anti-Semitism. On
14:40
the 21st of October, he said nothing can
14:42
justify the reprehensible assault by Hamas.
14:45
On the 24th of October, he said, I'm equivocally
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condemned the horrifying and unprecedented
14:49
acts of terror by Hamas. In Israel, nothing
14:52
can justify the deliberate killing, injuring
14:54
and kidnapping of civilians. So
14:56
was he justifying a mass
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of attacks? I mean, reading
15:01
between the lines of all those, was
15:03
he actually,
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did he have his fingers crossed for all of those? You
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have to remember in these kind of instances, the
15:14
current Israeli administration, which, lest
15:16
we forget, has faced huge amounts of opposition
15:19
from the Israeli people, a massive
15:22
protest stage throughout the last year. You
15:24
have to remember that what they're trying to do is
15:26
trying to shift focus away from their
15:29
own responsibility that they bear in
15:31
these attacks. And there are critical,
15:33
op-ed pieces written in Israeli newspapers
15:36
about Netanyahu and why their security
15:38
oversights. But you have to understand, security,
15:41
even though Benjamin Netanyahu refers
15:43
to himself as Mr. Security, you have to understand
15:46
that was simply not his priority. His
15:48
priority was changing the law
15:50
so crime is legal if your name is Benet
15:52
and Yahoo. He just had different
15:55
priorities, guys. Can we give Benny
15:57
and the Nets a break? the
16:00
idea of the UN chief asking Hamas
16:02
to release the hostages, like what do you think
16:04
Hamas is going to say, you know? They're going to
16:06
say, we're f***ing Hamas,
16:08
what don't you understand? Yes. I
16:11
mean, like, governments won't listen to you,
16:13
but you think Hamas will, like,
16:15
your charter says you were supposed to prevent
16:18
wars. Or the original Hamas
16:20
charter says it's going to destroy Israel.
16:23
Only one of you is really trying to do your
16:25
jobs. It
16:27
is interesting, because there is starting
16:29
to be a kind of familiar
16:32
feeling in my stomach about all of this. What
16:34
happened on October the 7th was an appalling
16:37
attack, and Israel
16:39
as a nation was rightly reeling from that. And
16:41
it reminds me of America Post
16:44
9-11. But what we learned from America
16:46
Post 9-11 is that collective punishment
16:48
of people doesn't work.
16:51
And the movements towards a full
16:53
war really starting to give me a sinking
16:56
feeling in my stomach. The same feeling I get when
16:59
I see young people wearing jeans
17:01
that drag in the dirt. Or when I read
17:03
an article in the New York Times that says Limp
17:05
Bizkit is blowing up with tweens on
17:08
TikTok. They're bringing back all
17:10
the worst things from the early 2000s.
17:13
Low-rise jeans, new metal and the war
17:15
on terror. Why have we picked the
17:17
three worst bits of that era to bring
17:19
back? Why can't we just listen to Haya
17:21
and watch the Lord of the Rings trilogy back to back?
17:24
There was good stuff that happened that we should
17:26
be reprising. What's wrong with listening
17:28
to the First Strokes album again? The
17:30
conditions in Gaza have been described as being like the
17:32
Middle Ages, which of course is what
17:34
we voted for in the Brexit referendum here in
17:36
the United Kingdom. We're still waiting, but
17:39
currently other parts of the world have got there before
17:42
us, maybe not in an ideal
17:44
way. But I think the whole thing has shown maybe
17:47
that the world, has reminded us that the world
17:50
maybe has got less good at multitasking.
17:52
I think because I think it is possible
17:54
to condemn some actions
17:58
whilst also not just justifying
18:01
whatever the other team does. I think as a species
18:03
we should have that skill. So if you're a literature
18:05
fan, the way that
18:07
a lot of the reactions have been if you say something
18:11
is unacceptable, people then accuse you of justifying
18:13
something else. It's like saying that you like Shakespeare
18:17
and then your English teacher saying to you, what?
18:19
So you think Jane Austen is a proven witch who deserved
18:21
to die. That's not necessarily how
18:25
it needs to work, I think.
18:29
Yeah, it's
18:32
been a kind of real festival
18:34
of holding communities accountable
18:36
for things that they have absolutely nothing
18:39
to do with. We're seeing awful outbreaks
18:41
of anti-Semitism in parts of Russia,
18:44
awful instances of Islamophobia. And
18:47
I really strongly believe that one thing
18:49
you always have to state is that
18:52
none of this is an excuse for prejudice against
18:54
any community. It can't hold a community responsible
18:56
for its worst elements apart from white
18:59
people with dreadlocks. That
19:02
is the only thing. I want every white
19:04
person to apologize for the existence of white people
19:06
with dreadlocks. Otherwise, there is absolutely
19:09
no excuse in any other area. You
19:11
could have said something. You were hanging out. You
19:15
could have said, this is a bad idea. You
19:17
could have said, wash your hair. A lot
19:20
of things you could have said. You could
19:22
have said, this is not what Bob Marley would have
19:24
wanted. There's a lot of things you could have said. Stay
19:27
quiet. There's
19:29
a lot of times in situations like this
19:31
where there are huge moral grey areas
19:34
and sometimes it's unhelpful to
19:36
call one group of people bad people
19:38
and another group of people good people. But
19:40
then there are other people who you just think, oh
19:43
no, you're just flat out.
19:46
I just want to briefly draw everyone's
19:48
attention to some
19:50
of the people who have looked at this absolutely
19:53
appalling situation and not
19:55
seen a humanitarian crisis, but
19:57
have instead seen a... commercial
20:00
opportunity. Analysts from Morgan
20:02
Stanley and TD Bank have taken
20:05
note of potential profit-making
20:08
during the escalation in conflict,
20:10
right? Everyone listening, I
20:12
do just want you to have a sick bag at
20:15
the ready. Would you hear some
20:17
of the stuff that's been said
20:19
here? TD Cowan's Kai Von
20:21
Rumer, who's the managing director and
20:23
senior research analyst specializing in the aerospace
20:26
industry, said on an earnings
20:28
call on the 25th of October, Hamas
20:31
has created additional demand
20:34
and people are not focusing enough. They're getting
20:37
distracted by calling Hamas
20:39
brutal murdering terrorists and they're forgetting
20:42
what enormous wealth creators they
20:44
are. Truly, they're
20:47
like Warren Buffett. It's absolutely
20:49
unbelievable. We've really
20:52
not talked about this. It's
20:54
really astonishing. Morgan
20:56
Stanley's head of aerospace and defense equity
20:59
research, Christine Lewack, took
21:01
a similar approach during a 24th of October
21:03
earnings call and
21:06
referred to the situation
21:09
as being an opportunity. And
21:11
you know what? We always think about
21:13
war as a negative thing and maybe we
21:15
should start referring to it as the opportunity.
21:18
Man, there's a lot of opportunity happening in Ukraine
21:20
right now. Oh boy, I can't wait to
21:22
get back to studying for my history exam on
21:25
the second world opportunity. Once
21:28
I finish studying, I'm going to kick back and relax
21:31
with my favorite film trilogy, Star Opportunity.
21:33
I mean, are you telling
21:36
me that there wasn't a Hollywood agent
21:38
somewhere who was like, is Hamas signed by anybody?
21:41
They are everywhere
21:43
right now. I mean, I remember when
21:46
I missed out on ice, I mean, and a lot
21:48
of their stuff self-produced, I get it. But
21:50
like, wow, this
21:52
is the time if you're going to get them. It's
21:55
funny reading something and feeling that you're
21:58
looking into a total moral vacuum.
22:06
Britain news now and well huge celebrations
22:09
across the country over the last week Nish to
22:11
commemorate one year of Rishi
22:14
Sunak as Prime Minister. I'll
22:16
just go through all the achievements of the little fella since he
22:19
took over his interim Prime Minister in
22:21
the aftershite of Boris Johnson and Liz Truss.
22:25
There you go. I mean how
22:27
would you assess his first year
22:30
in which he's basically captured votes as imagination
22:33
like a baby penguin captures a polar bear
22:35
and a pair of fishnet stockings and in other words
22:37
not at all and he's gone about it in a quite
22:39
weird and unsettling way.
22:43
That is vintage soulsmith.
22:46
Thank you. Here's
22:49
what I would say to Rishi Sunak. I
22:51
truly when he was elected and
22:53
everybody said this is historic you
22:56
must feel great about this because this is representation
22:59
for you. I was dubious but
23:02
now I truly see myself represented
23:05
in Rishi Sunak as I look at
23:07
an untalented over
23:09
promoted British Indian man who
23:12
struggled to connect with the British public. I
23:14
think yes at last I can see
23:16
myself in our Prime Minister. Brown
23:22
male mediocrity is finally risen.
23:25
Oh, sorry Rishi and I yearned
23:27
for mediocrity. Mediocrity
23:30
would be a huge win for me in the food out
23:32
lifestyle. He
23:38
has, yeah he's indulged the hard
23:42
right of his party culminating
23:44
in a couple of weeks ago when he was asked point blank
23:46
and said that he would not oppose
23:48
Nigel Farage rejoining the Conservative
23:50
Party and I would
23:53
say that one of his absolute low
23:55
points is his politicisation of
23:57
the climate policies. and
24:00
large we've managed to avoid
24:02
in this country. But Sunak
24:04
has really, he's really
24:07
gone out of his way to try and politicise
24:09
that issue and also trying to make
24:11
it into a thing where it's like, well, it's going to cost ordinary people
24:13
money if we do this, which obviously
24:16
is bollocks. He's
24:18
sort of even threatened to reopen
24:21
a coal mine. I think I've said this before on the Bugle,
24:23
but it's worth restating. In 2023, the only conceivable
24:27
excuse for opening a coal mine is if you're planning
24:29
to immediately shut it again to
24:31
stimulate boys' interest in ballet in the
24:33
local area.
24:36
That as far as I can tell is the only point.
24:38
The strange thing with the environmental angle,
24:41
and there's the
24:43
King's speech coming next week for the
24:46
reopening of Parliament in which he's
24:48
supposedly going to double down on his anti-environment
24:52
policies, is that a
24:54
vast majority of people are quite in favour
24:57
of fixing the environment. So it's a kind
24:59
of weird electoral gambit. It might explain why in
25:01
the recent bio-elections last week, the
25:03
Conservatives, I think
25:06
in technical, is it the
25:08
word, sociological terms, had their arses handed
25:11
to them on a series of plates.
25:14
They were, though lost,
25:16
two vast majorities with some
25:18
of the biggest swings ever seen in
25:21
British bio-elections inside it in the Tory
25:23
party described the results as, quote, like
25:26
being hit by a truckload of German sausage
25:28
and cheese. Sorry,
25:30
a worst case scenario. The
25:36
problem for Sounac is that the Conservatives broadly,
25:38
and it's happened under his watch, obviously happened
25:41
before, there's lost support amongst
25:43
a number of key demographic voter
25:45
groups. These include Brexit
25:47
supporting voters, Brexit opposing voters,
25:50
the young, the old, the neither young nor old, the unborn,
25:52
the already dead, men, men, other people, gardening
25:54
fans, that's got to hurt, Olympic high board
25:56
diving enthusiasts, vegetarians, Zoroastrians,
25:59
who I think are people who only
25:59
eat fictional Mexican Californian food, dog
26:02
cats, beekeepers, wick keepers, people
26:04
with kidneys, acrobats, Nishkumar fans and
26:06
most worryingly of all conservatives.
26:09
Now obviously there's some crossover with all those groups
26:11
but they seem to be struggling with all of them at
26:13
the moment. I'm
26:15
not sure that given the last two groups you named the
26:17
conservative voters and Nishkumar fans there's
26:20
a huge crossover in those two sections.
26:24
What's super interesting to me about
26:26
this upcoming King speech is obviously it's going
26:28
to be it's the state opening of Parliament and for bougourers
26:31
outside of the country it is
26:34
****ing weird and we know it's ****ing weird
26:37
that in order for our democratic
26:39
processes to begin a man
26:41
in a gold hat has to read a letter
26:43
but the thing that makes it particularly
26:46
interesting this year is the speech
26:48
is written by the government and then delivered by
26:50
the King but in terms
26:52
of doubling down on anti-net zero
26:54
policies one of the British people that is
26:56
very much in favour of acting on
26:58
the climate crisis is the King.
27:01
So we might be in this absolutely bizarre
27:03
situation. I don't know what's going
27:06
to happen. Is King Charles going to start doing
27:08
air quotes around some of
27:10
the net zero policies to suggest sarcasm?
27:13
Are they going to try and get him to lip
27:15
sync it to avoid any to
27:17
avoid any improvisation on the fly?
27:19
If so are we going to end up with a sort of regal
27:22
milli-vanilli situation?
27:26
There's a fascinating situation that is about
27:29
to come to a head and as with most situations
27:32
in Britain it still somehow involves some
27:34
dude in a ****ing gold hat. You
27:37
guys are talking about British politics so I tuned
27:39
out a while ago. You guys talking
27:42
about that Colin Firth movie? That's
27:47
a while ago fellas. As
27:50
soon as I did say that his government has achieved a lot
27:53
in his first year and I do give him
27:55
a bit of slack for that because
27:58
what could he have said? He can't come out and say my
28:00
government has done very slightly less shitly.
28:05
I could have said, well, we've achieved nothing, which
28:07
is, to be fair, a vast improvement on
28:09
my two immediate predecessors. It's
28:12
clearly a tough gig for him taking over, and I don't
28:14
think he's played it very well. It's like being a door-to-door hairdresser for
28:17
a struggling door-to-door hairdressing business, but
28:19
then turning up with one pair of scissors sticking out of your forehead,
28:22
and another round into your ear, blood running down your
28:24
face, and a squirrel's tail gaffa taped
28:26
to your scalp, knocking on someone's door, saying, can I interest
28:28
you in a haircut? It's a tough, it's a tough sell. It's
28:31
like being a snooker player tucked in behind the green, needing
28:33
a three-cushion escape shot to hit the last road, 50 points
28:36
down in the frame. So needing snookers anyway,
28:38
he chalks the cue, he takes a deep breath, he reaches
28:40
into his waistcoat pocket, he
28:42
pulls out and a guana plonks it on the table and says, run, my pretty, run.
28:46
And that is essentially the
28:48
situation that our Prime Minister has been in.
28:51
That is the essence of Andy's Altzman. Given
28:54
there is a substantial listenership to
28:56
this podcast, from outside the United Kingdom, and
28:59
yet when we move on to his next about specifics on
29:01
the United Kingdom politics, instead of trying to open it out,
29:04
he doubles down and tries to explain things with
29:06
a snooker metaphor. I
29:08
like to think of it as educational, Nick. I
29:12
mean, to be honest, a bunch of our listeners
29:14
are anglophiles. They love this
29:16
shit. It gives them a
29:19
secret wisdom that makes
29:21
them feel better than other people. I've met these people
29:24
after shows. I know what they're
29:26
about. They're like
29:28
puns. They're like puns.
29:35
Nish,
29:57
I know you are an expert. Are you not in nano
29:59
photonics?
29:59
Yeah,
30:00
he's a big expert in nanophotonics.
30:03
Yeah. How are you with nanophotonics? Are
30:05
you
30:06
begging to do that as well? I'll be honest. I've
30:08
been wanting to buy a Hadron Collider
30:11
for such a long time. And
30:14
this is why you don't buy
30:16
the thing when it first comes out. You just wait
30:19
long enough and now all of a sudden we got
30:21
this nanophonics thing. This is
30:24
easy to transport. You can bring it
30:26
on a road trip, you know, without having to
30:28
strap it to the hood. I mean, this is
30:30
why you wait. You've got to wait
30:32
it out. So I'm pretty excited about it. I don't
30:34
know what it does, but I'm pretty excited
30:37
about the possibilities. The
30:39
portability. I spent, I
30:42
would say, 25 minutes trying to write jokes
30:44
on this subject. And unfortunately,
30:46
I couldn't understand a single
30:49
word of the article about it. I wrote that in my mouth. It
30:52
genuinely was indecipherable. And
30:54
Google Translate,
30:56
as yet, does not have an option to translate
30:59
into moron. There
31:03
are so many science words. There
31:05
are so many science words.
31:09
They were talking about. I saw Oppenheimer. Let
31:12
me try and explain it for you, Ignoramuses. What it does,
31:15
this nanophotonic electronic
31:17
accelerator... Technically, it's Ignoraimi,
31:19
Andrew. Yeah. It
31:22
blasts negatively charged particles. They're
31:24
the particles that cause all forms of negativity
31:26
around the world, including general
31:29
cynicism, the Republican Party and English rugby. It
31:31
blasts them with mini laser
31:34
pulses, which are the cutest little laser pulses you will ever see. And
31:36
the whole device is the size of a coin.
31:39
It's 54 million times smaller
31:41
than the large hadron colour. Obviously, I don't
31:43
want to size shame any particle accelerator's large
31:46
or non-large. But this is, frankly,
31:48
nanophotonically titchey.
31:51
So these are hugely exciting
31:53
times, because the Large Hadron Collider has
31:57
discovered a range of very exciting new particles.
33:56
should
34:00
be able to grasp this, could open the door
34:02
to a wide range of applications
34:04
including using the teensy particle
34:06
accelerators inside human plates. Teensy!
34:09
That's a scientific term that we could all understand
34:11
I think. Will
34:13
we be able to shove a particle
34:15
accelerator up our butts? Will it feel incredible?
34:20
Let's cut to the chase here! We're
34:23
all thinking it! You know we're all
34:25
thinking it!
34:31
Before we leave this week's bugle, Sport
34:34
News now and England have absolutely stunk
34:36
out the Cricket World Cup. The
34:39
worst ever title defense by Cricket World Cup
34:41
champions. They've managed the winning in 2019
34:43
and I'm sure I talked about this on the Google at the time, one of those
34:45
highlights of my cricket
34:48
media career being
34:50
in the BBC commentary box for that game. I'm
34:53
not out at this tournament in India
34:56
but England have been
34:58
heroically shit for what
35:00
is on paper a very good cricket
35:03
team and I like to think that
35:05
in this time of difficulty for the world
35:08
England have created and spread
35:10
the concept of joy which
35:12
is what sport is supposed to be about. They have selflessly
35:15
allowed themselves to be defeated
35:17
by Sri Lanka which is my economic
35:20
crisis at the moment by South Africa to
35:22
bring some light into South Africa's literal
35:25
darkness as its ongoing power crisis ongoing
35:27
as ongoing things often do. They've lost to
35:30
Afghanistan which has had a tough time for the last
35:32
oh I don't know couple of hundred
35:35
thousand years. New Zealand struggling
35:38
with a big possum infestation and to
35:40
India which is obviously struggling through a
35:42
period of breakneck page change under the auspices
35:44
of Anasimuth government that foments division at every opportunity.
35:47
So the England cricket team has been the foremost
35:50
source of light and happiness
35:52
in the world
35:53
over the past month and I don't think they get enough
35:55
credit for that. England was so bad against
35:57
India yesterday that I'm genuinely concerned
36:00
our government is going to try and pass it off as
36:02
reparations for the Covinoor Diamonds. It
36:07
was a performance of shitness that resounded
36:09
through history. But
36:12
you know, as a cricket
36:14
fan of a certain age, there
36:16
was something reassuringly familiar about
36:18
watching England just be absolute shit. For
36:21
too long I've watched England be a competent
36:23
and at times utterly outstanding limited
36:25
over team and watching them just absolutely
36:29
collapse was, you
36:31
know, it was really reassuring. I
36:34
think you knocked out it. Harry,
36:36
you must be hugely excited about the T20
36:40
World Cup coming to America
36:42
next year. Oh my God. Played
36:45
in New York, I imagine that you've been talking of little
36:47
else.
36:48
Of course. Who doesn't want
36:50
a version of a game where
36:52
you hit a ball with a stick that lasts
36:56
less than 12 hours? I wish
36:58
we had a game like that in this country already.
37:04
I think I might have talked about
37:06
this on the Bugle before but when
37:08
I was in New York
37:11
a few years ago, I mean,
37:14
I could tell you exactly. It would have been 2019. I
37:18
went to see my cousin in Jersey and
37:21
I was told by a friend
37:23
of mine who is South Asian that I would be
37:25
going to where all the Indians were. And
37:28
I thought that was too vague an
37:30
instruction. And then as the
37:32
train got towards the more
37:35
densely South Asian populated areas of Jersey,
37:37
adverts started to appear for the impending 2019
37:41
Cricket World Cup and I thought, well, I'm
37:43
in the right place now. Just
37:48
pictures of the statue of liberty holding a cricket
37:50
bat along. That's hilarious.
37:53
It was genuinely incredible. That's
37:57
not a hilarious image. That is a deeply
37:59
erotic image. image.
38:02
Oh no, don't let people think
38:05
of you having an erection, don't do it. Statue
38:07
of Liberty with a cricket bat. Full
38:10
metal Janet is a lot to think of.
38:13
That brings us to the end of this
38:16
week's bugle, thanks to Nish
38:18
and Hari. Any projects to plug,
38:20
Hari?
38:21
On tour, November
38:23
8th, San Antonio, so if you're
38:26
Greg Popovich, obviously you listen to this podcast,
38:28
show up, bring Victor Wambignano
38:31
with you, expect you there. November
38:33
9th to the 11th in Austin, Texas. November 17
38:37
and 18 in western Massachusetts,
38:40
specifically, chickopea Massachusetts,
38:42
career booming right now. November
38:46
19th, Providence, Rhode Island. November
38:48
30th, hopefully Montreal, stay
38:51
tuned. And then December 15th
38:53
in Vancouver, British Columbia. And
38:56
finally, vacation baby, my free
38:58
YouTube special is still
39:00
available because it's a goddamn YouTube special.
39:03
Nish? I will
39:06
have some news soon about
39:08
my stand-up shows, Global Release. We
39:11
will actually be able to, people will actually be able
39:13
to see it outside of the UK, but if you're
39:15
in the UK, you can watch
39:17
it on Sky Comedy or Now TV.
39:19
It's called Your Power, Your Control and is available
39:21
now. I have nothing to plug, but I will
39:24
soon have some things to plug in
39:26
the form of some live bugle shows
39:29
early next year, dates hopefully to be confirmed
39:31
within the week, which I might have said last week,
39:34
and some stand-up at
39:36
some point in the next 12-ish to 15
39:38
months. Just keep your
39:41
ears to the ground. Thank you very much
39:43
for listening. Even for you, that was terrible
39:46
self-promotion. Even for you,
39:48
I might have at some point some stand-up
39:50
within the next 12 to 15-ish
39:53
months. That's like you're not even trying.
39:55
Well you just build up the the aura
39:57
of suspense.
39:59
That's called marketing. Thank
40:02
you very much for listening, Buglers. Don't
40:04
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40:21
I answer. All your questions, if
40:24
I deem them worth answering. Thank
40:26
you for listening. We'll
40:28
be back in about 10 days. We're
40:30
switching back to Friday recordings for the rest of the year. So
40:33
we will see you then. Until then, goodbye.
40:48
Bugle feature section now. And 500 years ago
40:50
this year, Michelangelo, or as
40:53
he was known by his friends, Mickey
40:56
Paintbrush, was commissioned to do a little bit of
40:58
decorating for the Pope. He got his nickname,
41:00
of course, not because of his artistic skills, but because
41:02
he had tough, bristly straight hair, which
41:04
when he was drunk, he would dip in a vat of paint and
41:07
headbutt cartoon testicles into the sides
41:09
of churches. Anyway, the story
41:11
goes. The Julius II asked
41:14
Mickey Paintbrush, Can you whack a lick of paint on
41:16
the ceiling in my chapel? It could do with a bit of
41:18
sprouting up. Sure, Papa J replied Michelangelo. What
41:21
do you want? How about a bit of a fresco?
41:24
Sure, why not reply the pontiff? Great,
41:26
yep, the young artist. I was thinking of doing something
41:28
with some dogs playing snooker. Right,
41:31
Mickey P, said the Pope awkwardly. I
41:34
was just kind of hoping for something a little bit more neutral,
41:37
maybe just a plain, off-white,
41:39
magnolia colour. You know, Mick, something that
41:42
isn't going to go out of date. Righto,
41:44
skipper, replied Michelangelo, a little downcast.
41:47
Hey, do you mind if I do a couple of little bits from the Bible in the corner?
41:50
No, all right, conceded the Pope. But just nothing
41:52
too flashy, little Mickey. Yay! Yelp,
41:55
the 33-year-old five-time winner of the Golden Chisel
41:57
Award for Terrific Sculpture. I'll go and get
41:59
my...
41:59
special scaffold.
42:01
Four years later an angry Pope banged
42:03
on the door of the Sistine Chapel with his big staff.
42:06
Have you finished yet paintbrush? He shouted. Yep,
42:09
all done big man. The pontiff
42:11
stormed in, hat a Kimbo. What
42:13
the f*** have you done to my ceiling you floss?
42:17
Sorry pop said the artist, I just got a bit carried
42:19
away. Oh balls winced the
42:21
Vatican vicar. Bloody elmicky, what
42:23
is your obsession with naked cocks? Shit,
42:26
I've got a christening to do in 20 minutes, this is gonna
42:28
have to do. Okay boss, sorry
42:31
boss, mumbled the four-in-one painter, sculptor,
42:33
architect and chicken impersonator. You
42:35
haven't heard the last of this Buonarotti blasted the
42:38
Catholic Kahuna. Give me that paintbrush,
42:40
that's confiscated. Pope
42:42
Julius turned to go to his dressing room.
42:44
Just then something on the ceiling caught his eye.
42:47
Hold on,
42:48
that looks like,
42:49
no it can't be.
42:51
Is this my wang?
42:53
Mickey paintbrush, have you painted
42:55
my papal prong on that nudie man? Come
42:58
here, come here you little, oh
43:00
no he's got away. I
43:01
knew I should have got da Vinci to do this, knew
43:04
it. So to commemorate half a millennium,
43:07
since this historic moment in the history of
43:09
history, we present to you
43:12
the Bugle Italian section. Azzy,
43:15
that has to become a
43:17
regular feature. Historical
43:20
story time, missing
43:22
from your children with Andy's Ultra.
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