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tonight, oh tonight,
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the spirit of giving is alive
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indeed because tonight it's my pleasure
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to present another installment of
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the Call of Cthulhu Mystery
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Program's Cthulhu Cathetery Arcane Advent.
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Every Friday in December, they're throwing
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a log on the fire and
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discussing the finest in Lovecraftian cinema.
3:51
And they're going to keep us all warm as
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we wade through the long winter between new series
3:55
of the show. In the prior
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installment of Cthulhu Cathetery Mystery Program's Cthulhu Cathetery, the
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showrunner Cat Blackard confessed that
4:02
she'd never seen Re-Animator, arguably
4:05
the most beloved adaptation of an HP Lovecraft
4:07
story ever to hit the silver screen, and
4:10
the first film to bring together
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Stuart Gordon, Brian Yuzna, and Dennis
4:14
Powley, the team responsible for many
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classic Lovecraftian film adaptations, including From
4:19
Beyond, which was the subject of
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last week's arcane advent. Well,
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now at long last Omni vs. Mother
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Brain will set right this grave oversight
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and bear witness to this integral
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peace in the Lovecraftian cinema tapestry,
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and you are there to hear
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for yourselves the changed woman on
4:38
the other side of this experience.
4:41
She and keeper Luke Stramm are joined
4:43
in this episode by special guest Doug
4:45
Banks, who mystery program listeners will recall
4:48
as Hank Jr. in the Black Birth,
4:50
and you may also know him as
4:52
one of Omni vs. key creatives. Lead
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storyteller of this series, Kate was here,
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and architect of
4:59
many cinematic role-playing experiences.
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It's Doug's first time too, bathing
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in the green glow of the reagent.
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Join them now as they share
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their findings in Lovecraftian cinema studies
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and make morbid merriment in this
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Cthulhu cathetery arcane advent.
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Do you hear
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that? Then the
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cruel blackness of night and
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unknowable evil from Beyond time
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cries out. What
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dark deeds unfold on the streets
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of Arkham, and which
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unwitting souls, innocent or impure,
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will succumb to the maddening
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call, the call of
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Cthulhu. Welcome
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to Cthulhu Cosomentary. Hi, I'm Cat. Hi,
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I'm Luke. And with us we have
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a special guest. Guess this could
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commentary it's Doug Banks. What's up? We
6:03
have watched Reanimator
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the best-known HP Lovecraft
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film adaptation of all time
6:10
Maybe I don't know about color out of
6:12
space now But certainly this one is known
6:14
to be a cult movie like as a
6:16
cult favorite Definitely a high watermark and the
6:19
movie comedy horror early high watermark, too. Yeah
6:22
This is the film that established
6:24
the kind of pattern and troop
6:26
and in group of Stuart Gordon
6:29
Brian Yosna slash Jeffrey Combs
6:31
sometimes like sort of like
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stable of Lovecraft film adaptations
6:36
and of course put Jeffrey
6:38
Combs on the map as a Star
6:41
of camp horror cinema. Yeah well
6:44
reserved perfect casting for this movie
6:46
Yeah Now while I was on the fence about his
6:48
performance in from beyond as soon as he
6:50
hit the screen with reanimator I got it
6:53
I mean It's a completely different style of
6:55
performance and one that is highly calculated and
6:57
it was immediate You know last time I
6:59
I expressed a little bit like I don't
7:01
really say I don't really see it I don't get it but like this time.
7:03
Oh, no, it was absolutely
7:07
Perfect and his portrayal of
7:09
Herbert West in the stiffness
7:11
the beautiful science boy autism
7:14
of his characterization of
7:16
Herbert West is Absolutely
7:18
outstanding. He loves two things science
7:22
and Dan At
7:24
first he was a little antagonistic, but right
7:27
at that turning point where he becomes
7:29
part of the experiment It's like oh, no, this is
7:31
our experiment now Yeah,
7:33
the things escalated quickly Once
7:36
once that little like brotherhood
7:38
of science boys was sort
7:40
of stumbled into So, of
7:42
course, we have Jeffrey Combs as Herbert West
7:44
Bruce Abbott as Dan Cain and
7:46
then Barbara Crampton as Megan
7:48
Halsey are the Three
7:50
hero leads. Meanwhile, David
7:52
Gale is dr. Carl Hill the
7:55
lead antagonist and resident
7:58
pervert Mesmerist pervert
8:01
Dr. Carl Hill. Yeah,
8:03
and depending on which version of Reanimator you're
8:05
watching, it has an effect on how much of
8:07
a mesmerist pervert he is. He's a pervert in
8:09
all of them, but some of them that's
8:12
kind of dialed back a bit. Like it's
8:14
in the director's cut where you kind of see
8:16
a little more of that. Yeah, something that's called
8:18
the integral cut, which came out in 2013.
8:21
That's what we watched. And it
8:23
adds an extra like 15 minutes
8:26
of footage. Something that's added in
8:28
just serves to... It serves the plot. Yeah,
8:30
it serves the plot. It adds in interesting
8:32
details and it definitely ups the
8:34
ante on the film you knew you were watching
8:36
all along. This
8:39
is definitely a horror comedy masterpiece.
8:41
For every issue I had with From Beyond, there was
8:43
many things to like about From Beyond. Reanimator
8:46
is start to stop
8:49
a wild ride that never
8:51
gets boring, always stays fun, and is
8:54
consistently gross and weird throughout.
8:57
Granted, of course, there's plenty of like
8:59
horrible weird rapey stuff in it, but
9:01
it also all kind of like everybody
9:03
gets their comeuppance. It all kind of
9:05
serves... It seems to stop short before
9:07
it really gets bad. Yeah, it's got
9:09
great timing. It's creepy, but it
9:12
serves one of the best hero entrances. At
9:16
no point does the film as many horror films
9:18
are guilty of doing, for some reason, seem like
9:20
it's asking you as an audience
9:22
member to participate in the terrible things happening on screen. In
9:25
Reanimator, you know that these things should not be
9:27
happening and are very bad. It
9:30
was able to take the unfortunate
9:32
trope of rape scenes and be
9:34
movies and make it truly repulsive.
9:37
Obviously, Reanimator is a Lovecraft story.
9:39
It is kind of considered a
9:41
novella. It was a bunch
9:43
of serialized work released in
9:45
magazines between October 1921 and June Kind
9:50
of in his earlier period where a lot of
9:52
stuff at that time was more like
9:55
weird science than what we think of of
9:57
like the do the mythos stuff. And
10:00
it was something that Lovecraft
10:02
doesn't like a lot of his own material,
10:04
but apparently this one was something he especially didn't like
10:06
and just did for the money. He was getting $5
10:09
an installment, which I haven't done the math
10:11
– I usually do the math for on cathomontary. I can do
10:13
that real quick. What year did it –? I think it was
10:15
about 21 and 22. So in 1928, $10 was around $100, which
10:18
is how much is still paid for Lot X. So
10:24
that would be – I don't
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know what the 21 to 28
10:28
currency difference could possibly be, but basically
10:30
he's getting $50 a story. So
10:33
that's fine. That's pretty good. Yeah, well,
10:35
especially lower cost of living and everything. Yeah,
10:38
and down and out Howard Lovecraft. According to
10:40
the inflation calculator, it's closer to about $75.
10:42
Here, we'll crank this out. Yeah,
10:46
and he wasn't happy about having to end
10:48
all of them in cliffhangers, but that's kind
10:50
of very strongly a part of it. And
10:52
before I get into how it ties into
10:54
the movie, just kind of an interesting little
10:56
side note as to how the story has
10:58
a weird connection to Cthulhu Mystery
11:00
Program, which is a big chunk of
11:03
reanimator. It actually takes place in Bolton,
11:06
which is the town with the tannery. And
11:08
that's one of the things is like,
11:10
West and his unnamed assistant actually
11:12
end up after they kind of
11:14
graduate and everything. They move
11:17
out to Bolton because Bolton is
11:19
a town with a lot of poor immigrants and things working
11:21
in the mills. They don't have
11:23
healthcare because they're poor. So
11:26
they can give inexpensive healthcare and they can see
11:28
all these people and treat all these people that
11:30
aren't being otherwise treated, and they have easy access
11:32
to bodies. But that also slides
11:34
into the fact that the story version of
11:36
Herbert West is a bit darker because it's
11:38
around that time also that the assistant finds
11:40
out that Herbert has killed somebody to
11:43
get access to a body. So there's kind of
11:45
a similar thing of
11:47
people disappearing from the unfortunate
11:50
town of Bolton, Massachusetts. Yeah,
11:53
I think that's a lovely detail.
11:55
One that surprisingly didn't come up
11:58
in chithometry. past
12:00
so here I totally actually forgotten about it
12:02
until the most recent reread of the of
12:04
the story well your Lovecraftian gears
12:06
are always turning and the secrets even
12:09
surprise you sometimes exactly also
12:11
this is the first time that Miskatonic
12:14
University shows up in his writings oh
12:16
I didn't realize this the first one
12:18
cool the actual chronology of when his
12:21
stories were written is pretty fuzzy in
12:23
my head so yeah this
12:25
plot has many pieces
12:27
from the short stories but
12:31
is definitely not a straight-up
12:33
adaptation in any regard the
12:36
short stories tend to have these pretty significant
12:38
time jumps they're very much set in
12:40
the time and place that that they
12:42
were written around there's stuff during World War
12:44
one and a typhoid outbreak and stuff like that so
12:47
this which is like contemporary 1980s
12:50
film it takes place in and around a
12:52
hospital and a university
12:54
hospital specifically I suppose is
12:56
you know it's all rather different but
12:58
but there are actually some significant things
13:00
that are similar between the two of
13:02
them how would you say
13:05
the characterization of Herbert West differs for one
13:07
he's definitely a darker character in the short
13:09
story like by the end of it he's
13:11
kind of getting his comeuppance and and just
13:13
kind of crossed too many lines in
13:15
the movie he's a little more sympathetic
13:17
like maybe he killed
13:19
that cat maybe not but like even
13:22
his one murder in this when
13:25
he kills dr. Hall
13:27
it's not for the purposes
13:29
of reanimating him initially like he hates
13:31
an uncreative plagiarist threaten to kill his
13:33
friend yeah exactly yeah like it's not
13:36
until he's like yeah threatening to kill
13:38
Dan that that that Herbert's kind of
13:40
moved to action so he's much more
13:42
sympathetic in this one and
13:45
it's interesting that he's clearly
13:47
not like everybody else he's very
13:49
definitely neurodivergent and a lot of
13:51
the characters the other characters spend
13:53
a lot of time telling him
13:55
sometimes completely unprovoked that he's crazy
13:58
there's plenty of reasons you could say that Pull.
14:01
But mostly there's a lot of people just putting
14:03
him down and he seems to like he lets
14:05
it all slide because he knows what he's
14:07
doing is important or at the very least revolutionary
14:09
and extremely single minded. There are
14:11
enough times in this movie where he
14:13
suggests to do something ridiculous
14:16
and crazy. But
14:18
if you give it that split second thought you go. He's
14:21
kind of right. He's like
14:23
we have to do this now otherwise you know whatever.
14:25
It's like yeah the longer you
14:27
wait the worse this gets so maybe
14:29
he's right. And yeah they did such
14:32
a great job of having
14:34
you on the fence about his motivations for pretty
14:36
much the whole movie to where you never fully
14:38
trust him and you also never fully think he's
14:40
a bad guy because there's someone way worse than
14:42
him. Yeah they even joke about
14:44
it's like you're as bad as Dr. Hill. No
14:46
I don't think so. And
14:49
considering what Dr. Hill ends up doing oh
14:51
he's fucking right. Yeah. Yeah. Well
14:53
I think that's kind of like a whole extra theme
14:55
that the movie has that the original doesn't is that
14:57
you know there's kind of this this aspect of like
15:00
almost like artistic creativeness against
15:03
this like you know entrenched dull power
15:05
structure between like the Dean and Dr.
15:07
Hill. Yeah there's
15:09
a lot of like obsessive patriarchal rigidity
15:13
that like that is immediately like the
15:15
core conflict of the film is about
15:18
like a person in power who is
15:20
a like control freak
15:22
pervert. And also deeply
15:24
entrenched in maintaining that status quo. Yeah.
15:27
And the moment you know West
15:29
shows up and starts even granted
15:31
he was abrasive. Yeah. Yeah. Herbert
15:33
West is a dick. Yeah he
15:35
was a dick but
15:37
you think if someone someone like Dr. Hall
15:40
before you know what he's really like he
15:42
is first you need to be just like
15:44
you know a professor and he's like a
15:46
surgeon and supposedly a genius. And when
15:49
Herbert West shows up and is like oh your
15:51
theories are outdated whatever being a dick true but
15:54
you think another doctor be like well really where did you get
15:56
that information like where do you know what in from you know
15:58
you're saying that the this is behind the scenes. Someone
26:00
should probably try doing it again, I think. So
26:02
you got to go out to Hollywood and you got to do
26:04
this as a feature film. So obviously
26:07
it worked. He hooked up with Empire Pictures
26:09
and Brian Yessna and here we are. But
26:11
the degrees to which the characters seem to
26:14
pop I think is entirely because they were
26:16
worked on for years prior to this. Whereas
26:18
From Beyond had a very fast turnaround. So
26:20
this is the much tighter film between the
26:22
two of them by a lot, while From
26:24
Beyond has some really cool things that happened
26:26
in it. The characters were just very calculated
26:29
at this movie and its budget makes a
26:31
lot more sense when you pitch it as
26:33
a adaptation of a
26:35
stage play rather than an
26:37
adaptation of a set of stories. You know
26:40
what I mean? They focus really around three
26:42
locations for the whole thing. And that easily
26:44
can be put onto a stage, limited number
26:46
of characters, practical kind of old school
26:49
effects that you could do on stage for a lot
26:51
of it at least. I
26:53
can see that now as opposed to just sort of like,
26:55
oh we just really like these stories. Here's a little bit
26:57
of money. Do with what you can. Seeing how it is
26:59
fairly streamlined because of that. Now
27:01
it was almost rated X, which is
27:03
why the cuts happened. And there are
27:05
also some cuts that happened for time.
27:08
Like the weird detail of Dr. Hill's
27:10
mesmerism, it's a very strange component. It
27:12
explains a lot. It does.
27:14
It makes the third act work really
27:16
well. And if that was missing,
27:18
it's kind of awkward the way it
27:20
comes into the story early on in
27:23
the full uncut version. But without
27:25
it, the ending would seem so
27:27
much more like un-bred. And characters
27:29
would react weirdly. Like the
27:31
Dean, suddenly the next day being
27:34
like, I don't like you. And you're just like, oh
27:36
Dr. Hill must have gotten to him. And it's like what
27:38
the hell does that even mean? But then when you know
27:41
the backstory and you see these deleted scenes recut into the
27:43
film and you're like, oh no. We know exactly how he
27:45
got to him. We know that there's some mental shit going
27:47
on. And the idea of someone being that
27:49
degree of a control freak and a risk
27:52
taker on top of everything else makes the
27:54
way that he dives into like seeing
27:56
that West stuff actually works. But he was writing them off
27:58
completely because he was a real guy. because he was so
28:01
convinced of his own brilliance. And then once
28:03
he sees it, he's like, okay, why don't you steal
28:05
it? But he's also
28:07
willing to take a leap because he's like, he was
28:09
not just a doctor, he's a mesmerist, he knows that
28:11
things are kinda weird. You know he's not
28:14
just a jerk and
28:16
a tightwad, you know that
28:19
he has no ethics because
28:21
of this and that he will manipulate people and maybe
28:23
eliminate people to get what he wants. And
28:26
you can see that earlier as opposed to just sort of
28:28
discovering it along the way. They also cut
28:30
a scene where Herbert is injecting himself with
28:32
the reagent just like for- Just a little
28:34
amount, tiny. Just a little bit. Just a
28:36
buzz. Though admittedly it looks like it's at
28:38
least 15 cc's which is as
28:40
much to use for reanimation as somebody. But- It's
28:43
gotta show up on screen. Yeah, but the thing is is that when
28:45
he's in the, he's like, well I just use it so I don't
28:47
have to sleep. Like I just use it to like- Stay
28:50
sharp. Yeah. It's a diluted serum. And
28:52
once he starts crashing, obviously he has
28:55
a hard time injecting himself. So Dan's gotta do it for
28:57
him. And one, that's extremely intimate and
28:59
I love it. And two,
29:01
it's a really fascinating detail of him
29:04
as a science junkie. And
29:07
also offers an explanation that
29:09
I don't believe they ever take advantage of because
29:11
it wasn't in the officially released version of the
29:13
film for him showing up again
29:16
in the sequel. Because otherwise this movie ends
29:18
with you thinking he's probably dead. Ambiguous
29:20
enough. Yeah. Especially for a
29:23
horror film. But yeah, I mean
29:25
like much like the man from the
29:27
Miami Serpentarium, like the snake doctor who's
29:29
been injecting himself with cobra venom for
29:31
his entire life and is now basically
29:33
unpoisonable. Well, poison and venom
29:35
are not the same thing. But anyway- Immune
29:37
to venom. Yeah, like any snake can bite him and
29:39
he's fine. And also he's like, I don't know,
29:41
he might be dead now, I'm not sure anyway.
29:44
It's a very interesting self experimentation case
29:46
study thing. And Herbert is totally doing
29:48
that to himself. And I would suspect
29:50
if your body is adapting to a steady
29:52
flow of reagent, you might be
29:54
a little bit unkillable. Yeah. That's
29:57
one of the minor differences between the story version
29:59
too. And the story version very explicitly doesn't
30:01
have an effect on a living person. But
30:04
I think it works in the context of
30:06
the story as a change, specifically for all
30:09
that reasons, to show how absolutely sucked into
30:11
it it is as
30:13
a part of his own life. And then also
30:15
for that intimacy of him and Dan together
30:17
with Dan injecting him. And I
30:21
would risk saying that maybe it makes him a little
30:23
bit more sympathetic because you know that he's not just
30:25
experimenting on other people like some sort of sadist. Yeah.
30:28
He's a mad scientist. He will even experiment on
30:30
himself. Yeah. Because he believes in what he's
30:32
doing. You know, that's something. You
30:34
know, since so much of our content that
30:37
is out or is to come regarding Mystery
30:39
Program is at least a little
30:41
bit queer in nature, it's interesting to
30:43
me that I excited really know this going
30:45
to this movie, but like the
30:47
history of queer Lovecraft adaptations is
30:49
pretty significant. Like, I mean, there's
30:52
nothing explicit in Re-Animator at all,
30:54
but it is really, there's an
30:56
energy about it. Like Finn
30:58
and Poe in Force Awakens. Yeah.
31:01
I love that that's like a thing. Like it's
31:03
like an instinctual thing that happens for
31:05
some reason. Like Lovecraft is so uptight that
31:07
even if it's not your intention, it's easy
31:09
for it to get a little bit gay
31:11
when someone else touches it. Yeah. Things are so cut and
31:13
dry with him that as soon as you add a little
31:15
bit of chemistry, suddenly it's like, ooh, something's happening here. So
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will we be watching the other films,
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Bride of Re-Animator, I'm super
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of the later chapters of the
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stories. So like it is still technically, it
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31:40
Bride of Re-Animator. Like there's no way he's
31:42
still writing it, but apparently it is. It
31:44
taps into it a little bit, at least
31:46
as much as this does. Of
31:49
course it flies wildly off the handle, clearly. But
31:52
if there's just a little bit of what
31:54
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31:56
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