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time for a guest. Vassal's over

0:31

to you. Our next guest is

0:33

the multi -award -winning actor who's always

0:36

brilliant whether he's a wealthy Californian

0:38

in Brothers and Sisters or a

0:40

KGB spy in the Americans. He's

0:42

now preparing to scare the wits

0:44

out of us in the new

0:46

thriller, Hello Road, out next Friday.

0:48

So please welcome Wonders Never Sees.

0:50

It's Matthew Actual Rhys. Yes,

0:52

it is Matthew Actual Rhys. Good

0:54

grief. Good morning. It's worth

0:56

it. It's worth it, just the introduction. A

0:59

hand. And the applause. Yes.

1:02

I feel great. sausage chat. Oh, don't

1:04

get me started, because it is hard

1:06

to not enter the realm of towering

1:08

in Uendo, but I am indeed a

1:10

sausage fan. Well, the sausage sisters

1:12

welcomed you to the show today, and

1:15

it's all going on. They're... Because the

1:17

team, the production team, are known as

1:19

the class behind the glass. But today,

1:21

the sausage sisters have made this splinter

1:23

group, and they go over on Instagram,

1:25

and it's... I love it. How's it

1:27

going? Do you remember the beginning? of

1:29

Grange Hill, for those of you who remember the old Grange

1:31

Hill. And the sausage came in

1:33

on the fork. I don't remember that. What?

1:35

It was the best part of the opening. Oh

1:37

my gosh. sat at the canteen eating, and

1:39

then the next thing, because it's like an old

1:42

comic book, a sausage on a fork comes

1:44

flying in. I remember that. my sister and I

1:46

would shout every time it came. The second

1:48

before it came in, we would shout, sausage! Yeah,

1:52

it's like it's like a battle cry

1:54

for me. So there's your real age,

1:56

there's your showbiz age and there's your

1:58

sausage Can you

2:03

do loads of those? No, it's about it. Can you

2:05

do the the ruler on the desk? Can

2:10

you sing? No. I

2:12

bet you can. I bet you can sing really

2:14

well. All I can do you can sing annoyingly

2:16

well. No. What I do is I imperson... When

2:18

I sing, I impersonate Tom Jones. Oh, that must

2:20

be terrible. Well, it is, because it's kind of...

2:22

It's a bad impersonation. I bet it isn't. Have

2:24

you had Tom Jones on the show? We've had

2:26

him on the show many times. How is he?

2:28

I've never met him. He's amazing. I know. He's

2:30

all you want and more. We used to have

2:32

this charity... I used to earn this pub, and

2:34

we used to have this charity night at the

2:36

pub once a year, and he came and sang

2:38

for us once. Oh, pay for

2:41

his own cab fare, everything. What a man. What

2:43

a guy. There's one

2:45

story I heard. He was in a

2:47

hotel lobby in Las Vegas at 8am,

2:49

still drinking Port and Brandy. And

2:51

the guy with him said, I've got to go to

2:53

bed. And Tom Jones just went, what for? He

2:56

came on TFI once and we went out

2:58

all night. Literally all night.

3:00

It was amazing. What happened to

3:02

that desk with the drill? Well, which

3:05

one? You mean there's more

3:07

than... Yes, baby! It's like Herbie the car. There's

3:10

more than one. One of them is in my

3:12

house. I don't know where the other ones

3:14

are. I presume they're in the house of other

3:16

people who worked on the show. One would hope.

3:18

They're not on eBay. Yeah, I don't mind, I

3:20

don't mind. Matthew, Hello Road. I've

3:22

got to point out, cos you can't

3:24

see it. It's not, like, Hello Goodbye. There's

3:26

a lot of people going, Hello Road!

3:28

Yeah, this is a... You do not want

3:30

to say hello to this road. No.

3:32

You want to say goodbye to this road.

3:34

As quickly as possible. This movie is

3:36

extremely scary. It's extremely chill. Hello Road, H

3:38

-A -W -L -O -W Road. This film

3:40

is in cinemas Friday, 16th of May. You

3:42

co -starred it with Rossamund Pike. Do you

3:44

want to frame it for us? I saw

3:47

it yesterday. I only saw it on an

3:49

iPad, thank God. Thank God. And it was

3:51

scary enough on that. Yes, yes. It's a

3:53

tort thriller about a husband and wife who

3:55

go to a call late at night from

3:57

the... from their daughter to say that a

3:59

terrible accident has happened. They raced

4:02

to her aid, as I'm sure any parent

4:04

would, and during that very

4:06

long journey. a number of

4:08

very dark revelations come out. Yeah, and they

4:10

start in the bedroom at night time, so

4:12

she's clearly out, she's in her dad's car,

4:14

you play her dad. Yeah. And there's, you

4:16

know, Eckhart Tolly talks about the pain bodies,

4:18

you know, when you're having a round with

4:21

somebody, especially somebody close to you, especially your

4:23

partner, you know, it's not

4:25

you round with them, it's your pain

4:27

body round with their pain body. And

4:29

that's sort of how this starts, isn't

4:31

it? Yes, yeah, yeah, very, very much

4:33

so. It's kind of, you know, all

4:35

those great dramas that kind of... magnify

4:37

the universal really and that's what this

4:39

is I think it's you know it's

4:42

about Obviously, you know, it is very

4:44

scary. But also, I always enjoy those

4:46

relationship elements that are kind of brought

4:48

to the fore when you're under great

4:50

duress. So you and Rosamund, you jump

4:52

in the car, and then you're

4:54

on the phone, and I'm like,

4:56

what's going to happen next? And

4:58

it's amazing what can happen in

5:00

a story, isn't it? Yeah. And

5:03

this is sort of hyperbolicised by

5:05

the fact... you can hear is

5:07

their daughter's voice on a phone,

5:09

and all you ever see is

5:11

her avatar on the phone. Yes,

5:13

yes, and I was incredibly drawn

5:15

to that because I've obviously never

5:17

seen it done before, but have

5:19

this kind of... It struck me

5:22

that the audience will, to a

5:24

degree, have the same experience, communally,

5:26

in a cinema, if they were,

5:28

but also because you're only... hearing,

5:30

every individual person will have their

5:32

own imagination doing whatever it needs

5:34

to do or, you know, not

5:36

in order to kind of imagine

5:38

what is going on. So it's

5:41

funny that people have this, you

5:43

know, communal experience, but also their

5:45

own imaginations can run as rampant

5:47

as they want because you're listening.

5:50

It's a huge swing, I think, as a

5:52

filmmaker for Baba Kanwari to do, and I

5:54

think he lands it. You know, as you

5:56

have the time in it as a viewer

5:58

and you have the time in this show, Because

6:01

it's, you know, there's a lot, it's

6:03

a lot about the narrative. And

6:05

you have the time to say, what would I do

6:07

as a parent in this situation? And you think, well,

6:09

I wouldn't have done that. I probably would have done

6:11

that. If I'm really being honest and there's nobody else

6:14

in the room, I probably would have done that. So

6:16

we're okay there. And then something else, I was like,

6:18

oh, hang on, I've got a clue what I do

6:20

now. And then too much has

6:22

happened without giving too much away from the

6:24

moment that's decision making point of view on

6:26

the decision tree for them to go back

6:28

on. sort of they

6:30

passed the point of no return at what

6:32

it's like the third of the film he

6:35

got oh god I don't know what I'd

6:37

do now absolutely and I think that's the

6:39

great quandary is you know whether whether

6:41

you're a parent or not as a human

6:43

being what you do in in those moments

6:45

and I was the other element the kind

6:47

of you you're constantly going what exactly exactly

6:49

like you said would I've done that would

6:51

I do that but as I think as

6:54

a parent those who are I think I

6:56

think you can accept the extreme that some

6:58

parents would go to. The most haunting

7:00

aspect is the fourth party, not the third

7:03

party. I won't go into who that

7:05

is because I'll spoil it for you. But

7:07

that is just, I mean, that is

7:09

so sort of terrifying. Yes. Whoever that person

7:11

is. Yeah. And whatever they're up to.

7:13

Yes. Oh my gosh, did you see that?

7:16

I saw an extended trailer

7:18

and... Oh, it's enough. I

7:20

think I might next

7:23

sleep, I don't know, June

7:25

-July time? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah,

7:27

it's enough. It's enough.

7:29

It's enough. Oh, gosh.

7:31

a really good sort of campfire story,

7:33

isn't it? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That

7:36

sort of vibe. Well, it is a

7:38

campfire story. Times a thousand.

7:40

Yeah. Campfire stories are scary enough,

7:42

aren't they? Yeah, absolutely. And that's the other

7:44

element that I kind of love about the

7:46

film, is that it plays on some very

7:48

old... kind of mythologies that we have you

7:50

know about the dark wood and things you've

7:52

grown up with as kids knowing what to

7:54

fear and how you know the simple sense

7:56

of what trees are in the day but

7:58

what they become at night just from a

8:00

different light of the moon. Well it's funny

8:02

because yesterday I went forest bathing with my

8:04

wizard and my witch and I really did

8:06

I'm not making this up and we went

8:08

for some activation in the forest and you

8:11

know we went to soak up everything that

8:13

was good about the forest and I was

8:15

like We had this conversation and I said

8:17

to my friend Kirsty and my friend Norris,

8:19

I said, who are genuinely, honestly, wizards and

8:21

witches. And I said, for me, it's

8:23

all about the forest. And they both said, yep, yep, yep.

8:25

People say they want to live on the beach. People

8:27

say they want to live in a mountain. We're

8:29

very lucky we live by the river.

8:31

But I'd swap it all for the

8:33

forest, I said. Yeah. Until I saw

8:35

your flipping film. And then

8:37

I thought, no, no. I swear it

8:39

was a forest during the day. Look,

8:41

look, chills. Just like, you know, not

8:43

the first of the night, no, no,

8:45

forest activation in the day, and

8:47

then beach at night. Wait, sorry, go into it. Have

8:49

you talked a lot about this on your show?

8:51

Because I'm very intrigued by what you just said. do

8:54

quite a lot. Talk about it. Can

8:56

you explain to me forest? So we go

8:58

for a day like yesterday. So

9:00

it's like, you know, so

9:02

green is a color, yeah? Green is a color.

9:04

Yeah. No, no. Green is a million colours. Right,

9:06

right. So you go into the forest where we

9:08

live, we're in Marlowe, other forests are available. Yeah.

9:10

You know, you can't, if you stayed there, if

9:12

you come with me today, you're very welcome. I'll

9:14

go again today. If we

9:16

stayed there, you and I and Vassos, three

9:18

of us, Jane and Aynar, as many

9:21

as you want. The many people from this

9:23

building as you want, come with me

9:25

to the forest today and start counting the

9:27

different shades of green and we'll be

9:29

there till this time next year. And that's

9:31

what it's all about. And smelling the

9:33

earth. And what are the trees

9:35

trying to tell us? There's a big

9:37

wisdom tree at the end of Happy

9:39

Valley, which is really called Happy Valley.

9:42

And that's the gateway to the forest.

9:44

And there's a big wisdom. tree there. There's

9:46

been there for hundreds of years and

9:48

it's seen everybody come and go and holds

9:50

all the knowledge of all the people

9:52

that passed it. Here's the crazy thing, sorry,

9:54

you did ask me about it. No,

9:56

I know because I just saw that documentary

9:58

about the tree, like the communication between

10:00

trees. yeah, 100%. Yeah, this is just incredible.

10:02

know, there's the whole, you know, the

10:04

elephant's graveyard and this and the other, you

10:06

know, and you get the, but you

10:08

know about the bull elephants. So you get

10:10

a rogue elephant, you know, the rogue

10:12

elephant, term rogue elephant. So you get a

10:14

young elephant, it causes chaos. Yeah. And

10:16

so what will happen is the elephant that

10:18

are being terrorized by the young alpha

10:20

male elephant. They will contact an elder and

10:23

the elder elephant, the bull elephant will come

10:25

from wherever it needs to come from,

10:27

like international rescue, like Thunderbirds for Elephants. And

10:29

before it gets there, it

10:32

will have communicated such vibrations

10:34

through the ground to the young

10:36

rogue elephant that the young

10:38

rogue elephant just falls in line.

10:41

And often, the bull elephant doesn't need to

10:43

actually get to. That's incredible. And

10:45

that's all to do with roots and trees.

10:47

And it's not woo -woo, it's real. yeah.

10:49

This is what happens. I know. And it's

10:51

all blooming wonderful. It is. We've switched off

10:53

so violently. But not a night. No. The

10:55

point is, back to the movie. yes. Cheese

10:57

and bull elephants are to be ignored or

11:00

avoided at night. Yeah. So how long did

11:02

you spend in a car with Rosamund Pike

11:04

then? Two weeks. Two whole weeks. You say

11:06

too long. Far too long. Two weeks. With

11:08

the weeks, she says too long. God bless

11:10

her. That was, you know... I read the

11:12

other thing reading the script, she kind of

11:14

goes, oh, God, this is going to be

11:16

great. I'm to be sat down the entire

11:18

time and it won't be told off by

11:20

a director about waving my arms because I'm

11:22

going to be glued to a steering wheel.

11:24

This is going to be great. And then

11:26

I got in and was like, oh, this

11:28

is just a... trauma car for two weeks

11:30

as we kind of was it a car

11:33

was it there was it there were two

11:35

landlady discoveries that they just took apart like

11:37

mccano sets because obviously the the the premise

11:39

the film can kind of takes claustrophobically takes

11:41

place within the car yeah so the director

11:43

bavak wanted to shoot it from every possible

11:45

angle to kind of keep the movement of

11:47

it so yeah we were in we were

11:49

we were in these little mccano sets that

11:51

these two great irish lads would take apart

11:53

in 30 seconds yeah on a

11:55

volume stage for those don't know

11:57

it. What that mean? It kind

11:59

of means that it's a huge

12:01

studio made up of tons of

12:03

LED screens. And then they

12:06

drove the route of the car. So

12:08

we were never in a real car

12:10

on a low loader. So if I

12:12

was to look left, right, or behind

12:14

me, as if I was actually in

12:16

the car, which is like projection everywhere,

12:18

which is fantastic. The only

12:20

thing you see is like the Irish

12:22

fella kind of with his foot up

12:25

on the bumper, making the car look

12:27

like it's moving with the Faggot and

12:29

texting someone. That was literally the only

12:31

person I saw. We'll leave it

12:33

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12:36

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12:38

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13:01

a boat here? I just got

13:03

rid of a boat. Anybody else

13:05

got a boat here? You got

13:07

a boat? I do. You have

13:09

a wooden boat that you look

13:11

after. I have the bit, yes.

13:13

cherish. It's

13:16

partly cherished. Yeah. Partly.

13:19

Loath don't get me wrong I'm very lucky

13:21

to you know I put a lot of

13:23

work in on it but if you have

13:25

a wooden boat if you have an old

13:27

wooden boat it is the bane of your

13:29

life yeah you either have to have a

13:31

bottomless pit of cash or you have to

13:33

be sort of an owner maintainer or yes

13:35

or a very understanding partner when you say

13:37

I've just got a nip I've just got

13:39

to pop down again this little bit you

13:42

know they've called Stiggan on water But

13:44

then I had this, I had a very roasted image

13:47

that the kids would like, you know, there'd be days

13:49

on the butt. No, they did one outing on it

13:51

and they were like, now put it up to top

13:53

speed. I was like, we are at top speed. no,

13:55

same with my kids. I had a 1963 cruiser. Again,

13:57

very lucky to have one. And

13:59

the bloke I bought it off, whose job is...

14:01

wooden boat trade said, you know, you're going to

14:03

regret this. I went, yeah, very funny. Why would

14:05

you say that? He said, I'm just telling you

14:07

because I can't sleep at night otherwise. You will

14:09

regret this. I'm decent of him.

14:11

Yeah, very decent. Yeah. And

14:13

I'm very, very lucky. I've had other boats didn't

14:15

regret any of them. He was right. Yeah. That

14:18

boat and I are no longer we party

14:20

company. Yes. But it was very interesting. Yeah. Did

14:22

it partly stuck the soul out of you

14:24

day by day? The thing about the kids is

14:26

so bang on. Yeah. Because I thought they're

14:28

going to love this. Yeah. They've never been more

14:30

bored in their whole lives. Same, same. They

14:32

were like, what's the why for password? I was

14:34

like, there's no part, there's no Wi -Fi! What

14:37

next, Dad? Golf? Yeah. Membership?

14:39

Yeah, the youngest one. I said, come on, we're

14:41

going on the boat again. He's like, do we

14:43

have to go and see that woman? I said,

14:45

do you mean the Statue of Liberty? And he

14:47

was like, yeah. And I was like, no, we

14:49

don't see something else. He goes, we'd just look

14:52

at buildings again. I was like, oh my God.

14:54

We've got bigger, more fun fish to fry. Yeah.

14:56

So you still live in New York? No, I

14:58

still live in Lagos. You've done Los Angeles. Yes.

15:00

You now live in New York. And I mean,

15:02

some people, some people click with the US and

15:04

the US clicks with some people. I

15:06

mean, it definitely clicks with me and I click with

15:08

it. But also from a work point of view, I

15:10

mean, what's the difference? What is that tipping

15:12

point there? Is it getting the right break at the

15:15

right time? What was it for you? For

15:17

me, it

15:19

was Peter

15:21

Falk, Colombo.

15:24

And I was doing a BBC co -production, which

15:26

he was in. And

15:28

the last day of filming, he came up to me

15:30

and goes, why are you doing next? And I was

15:32

like, oh, nothing. He goes, I'm going to do, I

15:34

think, one last Colombo. I want you to be the

15:36

murderer. And I was like, well, I'm sure he said

15:38

that to everyone. And then about two weeks

15:40

later, I'm at home in Cardiff. And the phone goes, my mom comes

15:42

up to me and she goes, I

15:45

think. Peter Falk is on the phone,

15:47

Columbo. And I said, what are you talking about?

15:49

She goes, well, you just said his name's Peter Falk.

15:51

So I go, he's got my home phone number

15:53

from my agent and called. My mother spoke to him

15:55

and she made her day. And then he went,

15:57

oh, I want you to come out. and play the

15:59

murder. And it was the last ever Colombo. Oh

16:01

my gosh. And he got me a visa and he

16:03

picked me up at LAX Airport in his car.

16:05

He did not. Yeah, he did. Not in the Colombo

16:07

car, though. No, sadly not. It was a very

16:09

nice Range Rover. Yeah, it's funny because you're 50, aren't

16:11

you? Yeah. And I'm like a decade older than

16:13

you. And I know that from a respect point of

16:15

view, obviously you will respect Colombo and the franchise

16:17

and this and that. Yeah. And your mum, it would

16:19

have a different effect on her. Yeah. It's like

16:21

the queen calling, Colombo calling. And I'm

16:23

more to your mum's side of the fence

16:25

than your side. Right. way by that.

16:27

I've never experienced Peter Falk. I suddenly no

16:29

longer with this, don't think. No. But

16:31

I once saw the Colombo car on the

16:33

back lot of Universal Studios, and that

16:35

was, look, again, cheers. That was enough for

16:37

me, because I love Colombo. I haven't

16:39

seen the last ever Colombo with you, innit?

16:41

I'm going to watch it today. Well,

16:43

so the other thing is that the coat,

16:46

he was so superstitious about the coat.

16:48

The coat was always brought out in like

16:50

this. The Mac, yeah. Yeah, in a

16:52

very special bag. And even the costume would

16:54

like put gloves on to handle it,

16:56

because it'd been almost the same mac. appeared

16:58

over, it was almost 40 years. 1969

17:00

was when Kilmer first started. And

17:02

like on the penultimate day, I said to the

17:04

customer and said, hey, can I put the Mac

17:06

on? And they kind of snorted like, why didn't

17:08

you just chop a bit of old Ted off,

17:10

right? And I was like, sorry, sorry, I didn't

17:12

mean to offend. And then about 10 minutes later,

17:14

was like, oh my God. And they went. They've

17:16

just come into the trailer really quickly. So I

17:18

ran in and they would just put on really

17:20

quickly, if you tell anyone it will kill you.

17:22

And I've still got the Polaroid of me wearing

17:24

the Mac. That is so cool. So

17:27

that's what happened first, what happened next? And

17:30

then I went... So

17:32

was like, I had a visa, so I stayed

17:34

in LA, and then I got a job. And

17:37

then I got a film with Anthony Hopkins and

17:39

Jessica Lange. And then I was like, oh, God,

17:41

Hollywood's easy. I didn't realize you just

17:43

had to turn up and you get great, massive jobs.

17:45

And then I didn't get a job for like

17:47

10 years, do you know I mean? Then I was

17:49

like, in the wilderness, just... wandering

17:51

aimlessly. But I got to work with

17:53

my true hero, Anthony Hopkins. Yeah, and you've

17:55

had a great time. I'm

17:58

looking down here. You know, I

18:00

get these cheat sheet notes. I don't usually refer to

18:02

them, but the team always prepared them. So thank you for

18:04

that. But now and again,

18:06

they do come in handy. And it says

18:08

here, you're going to do something produced by

18:10

Jodie Foster and Conan O 'Brien. Oh, yes. Yes.

18:12

starring Claire Danes. Yes. What can you tell

18:14

us about? Yes. us you want. No, no,

18:16

we just wrapped it. It's called The Beast

18:18

and Me. It's another thriller

18:20

where kind of... Claire Danes plays this

18:22

incredible author who is investigating a slightly suspicious

18:24

neighbour, and that's me. I think that's

18:26

about as much as I'm allowed say. You're

18:28

good at suspicious, aren't you? I've got

18:30

that shifty look. My father always had that.

18:32

But you actually haven't in real life.

18:35

You're angelic in real life. Oh, that's very

18:37

kind. No, but you are. That's very

18:39

kind. But I somehow, you more, for Yeah,

18:41

I just, yeah, I just lower my

18:43

eyelids a little bit, and that kind of

18:45

does it. Oh, my

18:47

God. No, no, no, don't stop. Cease. Sorry.

18:49

What, shouldn't that blimmin' iPad again for

18:51

last night? Yeah, that was a four on

18:53

the scale. So Jodie Foster and Conan

18:55

O 'Brien, they're a producing team. How did

18:57

those two get together? What's not to like

18:59

about those two brains? Love Jodie Foster.

19:01

I love the bones of her. Love

19:03

Conan O 'Brien. Yes, yes. Yeah,

19:06

it was... I was equally surprised

19:08

when they said, look, these two produce

19:11

things, like, oh, God, I didn't know

19:13

that. But Claire had been... Claire Danes

19:15

had been developing the project with Jodie

19:17

for a very long time. And

19:19

I was, you know, just kind of lucky

19:21

enough to be invited into the party, really.

19:23

I was the last one in going, thanks

19:25

very much for having me. No,

19:27

obviously you're, you know, a half a

19:29

century into this thing called life. But

19:32

you still, you know, every day is a school day, isn't

19:34

it? It's just for me here today. I've learned loads today.

19:36

I've done a show today. Same. Same. About

19:38

the trees, I'm going to go back on that. What did you learn

19:40

from Jerry Foster? Hard

19:43

work, dedication. Tony

19:45

Hopkins, Tony, but he does say that he

19:47

go when you call him Anthony Hopkins, he goes

19:49

he goes call me Tony. Yes, it's loud.

19:51

I know. You're too apologetic for

19:53

your own good, you know that. Sorry,

19:55

carry on. No, it is true. It's one of

19:58

the great Welsh afflictions I always find. Do you

20:00

know I mean? A slight apology for being present.

20:02

Yeah, which I'm always trying to overcome because the

20:04

Americans are always like, what's wrong with you? And

20:06

I'm like, I'm sorry. Stop saying that. Sorry.

20:10

It's just intrinsic. It's

20:12

awful. But he just said, and the

20:14

last day I worked with him, he said, listen, here

20:16

are my three. Be on time, know

20:18

your lines, be bold and greater gods will come

20:20

to your aid. And since then, and

20:22

I think, you know, Jodie Foster's the same,

20:24

well, as we saw, they both won Oscars for

20:26

Sons of the Lambs. Just have that work

20:28

ethic where it's like, you just got

20:30

to, you know, get after and do it. There's

20:33

no excuse for not hard work is what it

20:35

is. The rest is a

20:37

bit of good luck. Loving what you do.

20:39

Yes. Somebody said yesterday, would

20:41

you do it? if you didn't get

20:43

paid for it, if the answer's no,

20:46

and you don't need to, you need to think about that.

20:48

And the other one is, would

20:50

you teach it to other

20:52

people in your 50s

20:55

and your 60s if you

20:57

could? And if the answer's no,

20:59

you wouldn't think about that. I like that, both

21:01

those things. Do you think

21:03

you could teach what it is you

21:05

do? I don't know what

21:07

I do. Right, but do you mean

21:09

like if the broad scale of

21:11

the subject is broadcasting? Yeah. Would you

21:13

say that would be the... I

21:15

don't think... Right. I think being around

21:17

it, it's like, truly, it's not,

21:19

you know, it's not what you... It's

21:21

do as I do, not what

21:24

I... Right. As I say. Right. But

21:26

by the way, you probably have

21:28

a better idea of what I'm doing

21:30

than I am. I totally agree

21:32

with you. Like, I'm in... I don't

21:34

know how you do what you

21:36

do because the sheer blind panic for

21:38

me of running out of things

21:40

to say never seems to cross your

21:42

eyes. OK, well, here's the thing.

21:44

So I've been around movie sets and,

21:46

you know, I've been on

21:48

location. I've been on set. I

21:51

don't get how how you do what

21:53

you do because hanging around for 12

21:55

hours to utter one line that's got

21:57

to sync up with the line that

21:59

you did. two days ago when

22:02

you were a different human being on

22:04

a different day in a different mood with

22:06

a different... I don't get that. But

22:08

to me there's a real structure, there's a

22:10

real structure to movement making. What I

22:12

see you do is almost free for punctuated

22:14

by songs, do you know what I

22:16

mean? Where there's a small cheat sheet

22:18

but ultimately you have to, you're like a

22:20

jazz musician. Yeah but I've been thinking about

22:22

you all, literally all night last night. Oh,

22:24

seriously? Because I wanted to

22:26

make it an enjoyable experience for you because I

22:28

want you to come in, I want you

22:30

to want to come in again. Yeah, I already

22:32

do. And that's what I, so I have,

22:35

I promise I'll put the work in. I

22:37

can tell. You know, it's, because also to

22:39

be present for you is really important. Yeah.

22:41

So that I'm here for you to talk

22:43

to. But yes, but also then you do

22:45

that every minute that you're here with every

22:47

person is. Because I love it. I mean,

22:49

that's the beauty. Because I love it. And

22:51

therein lies the answer. Yeah, if somebody else

22:53

loves it one day and doesn't love it

22:55

another day, then good luck because I love

22:57

it every day. That's magic. You're a magic.

23:00

a magic, man. You are. You are. I grew up

23:02

with you in my living room. Yeah,

23:05

and your mum grew up with Colombo. You

23:07

grew up with me. Yeah. You see? Never

23:09

train shall meet. It's the gift

23:11

that keeps on giving. Yeah, mate. We just passed

23:13

it down. It's great to see, man. You

23:15

too. This a great film. 95 % on Rotten

23:17

Tomatoes. You must be thrilled. 95 % of Rotten

23:19

Tomatoes loved it. No, but seriously, that is deal.

23:21

No, it is. It is. a really big

23:24

deal. It is. You know, anything over 85 %

23:26

and Tash and I are on board, so... And

23:28

I've already seen this. 95 % on Rotten Tomatoes.

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