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2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 we are

0:02

on. Hey guys, thanks happen me. Oh you welcome captain,

0:04

how are you? Hey guys, thanks happen me. You're welcome,

0:06

how are you, alright? Hey guys, thanks happen me. Oh

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no, robot captain is malfunctioning. Oh no, give him a

0:10

kick, give him a kick. Hey guys, thanks happen me.

0:12

Hey guys, thanks happen me. Oh no, now he's really

0:14

here. Hello, thanks for having me. Who are you've got,

0:17

who are you, who are you, who are

0:19

you, who are you, who, who, who are

0:21

you, who, who are you, who, who, who,

0:23

who are you, who, who, who are you,

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who, who, who, who are you, who, who,

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who, who, who, who are you, who are

0:29

you, who, who, who, who, who, who are you,

0:31

who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who,

0:33

who, who, who, and you are... Oh, paper!

0:35

There you go. And James... Yeah. We have to

0:37

put it up yourself. There you are. Oh. We're

0:40

all here. Let's get into this

0:42

week's brand new

0:45

Christmas show on

0:47

Radio X podcast!

0:54

That's not even the jingle. That's

0:56

not even the jingle. No, but

0:58

it's good noise. Yeah, a little

1:00

sound off good. A bit of

1:03

post-production there. Right, welcome to this

1:05

week's podcast. We got a lot

1:07

of guests. Yeah. Load of guests.

1:09

In fact, Dominic Hughes on the

1:11

podcast. Straight in. I mean, or

1:13

we could all just say. Louise

1:16

Wenner. We spoke to Louise Wenner

1:18

from Sleeper. Can you believe

1:20

that was this week? Richard

1:22

Hammond came in. That was

1:24

a lovely scene. We spoke

1:26

to David Coulthard, the racing

1:28

man, driver man on Zoom,

1:30

ironically, and David Bedell

1:32

and Dan Gillespie Salz

1:34

as well. There's probably

1:36

another one. If you want all

1:38

of them, you know, stay tuned, let's

1:41

find out together. Any other

1:43

guests? So that's a lot of guests

1:45

without even naming the other

1:47

one. So Adam Tucker. Adam

1:50

Tucker. From Better Man, the Robbie Williams

1:52

film. That was on the strike. It was

1:54

the way before. No, it's this week. You

1:56

sure? No. Yes, I am sure. What's this week?

1:58

All in a busy week, actually. Very

2:00

very very very very busy week. I went

2:03

to the dentist again this week I don't

2:05

talk about it on the show because there

2:07

wasn't a lot to say apart from the

2:09

fact that it was another consultation yeah my

2:12

god I'm gonna have to move in to

2:14

the dentist's having me there that much yeah

2:16

but look quite a bit to talk about

2:19

he said right so roughly this two's got

2:21

to go mm-hmm Oh, then he's going to

2:23

clean up my gums. Okay. Right, because apparently

2:25

my, there's a problem with my gums. They're

2:28

getting shorter, something like that. Like shame we

2:30

go any waiting. Yeah. And then these teeth

2:32

appear. Right, there's three teeth, got a little

2:34

problems with. A little bit of kale, a

2:37

little, definitely one root canal, maybe two. Oh,

2:39

mate. Definitely a new cap on there. He

2:41

might redo a filling. that's on the right

2:44

hand side of my mouth on the left

2:46

hand side of my mouth oh no yeah

2:48

more work to do and then also my

2:50

front two teeth like it like a joke

2:53

right on the bottom some of the work

2:55

to do there and he said it might

2:57

leave a bit of a gap and I'm

2:59

like listen at the moment my teeth look

3:02

like broken tomb stones anyway so what differences

3:04

are really gonna make But luckily it's not

3:06

that expensive to have all that done. No,

3:08

not expensive at all. So that's good. And

3:11

also, not connected, I'd like to announce I

3:13

have a new job. In fact, I've got

3:15

a few new jobs. Really? Yeah. Domino's piece

3:18

of delivery. I'm Uber driving. I'm going to

3:20

do delivery route and just eat. Oh, nice.

3:22

I'm going to do it overnight on heart

3:24

90s as well. Right. And just generally, I've

3:27

almost said a really rude phrase. Yeah. myself

3:29

out. Good. Yeah, because it's going to be

3:31

priced. Oh mate. But he did tell me

3:33

something fascinating. Go on. So I'm going to

3:36

get, I'm going to get knocked out for

3:38

it because I'm just, I'm petrified of the

3:40

dentist. I've done it for years, not dead

3:43

anymore. Yeah. Plus I'm rich, why not. So

3:45

I was saying, look, I don't mind. I

3:47

said I got in a card the other

3:49

week, I was doing a gig, and the

3:52

driver's doing a gig, and the driver's driving,

3:54

I was driving, I was driving, I was

3:56

driving, I, I was driving, going to, I,

3:58

going to, going to, going to, going to,

4:01

going to, going to, going to, going to,

4:03

going to, going to, going to, going to,

4:05

going to, going to, going to, going to,

4:07

going to, going to, going to, going to,

4:10

going to, going to, going to, going to,

4:12

going to, going to, going around the corner

4:14

from my home, two and a half hour

4:17

journey, took 20 minutes. Yeah. Because I was

4:19

asleep for it. Yep. It's brilliant. So I'd

4:21

be like that. And he goes, oh yeah,

4:23

yeah, but you'll still be talking to me

4:26

and everything. And I went, what? Oh, he's

4:28

not putting you on the... I thought you're

4:30

going to knock me out. And he goes,

4:32

yeah. Yeah, yeah, you're, you'll be talking to

4:35

me and everything. And I'm like... Sorry. Sorry.

4:37

What do you mean I'll talk to you?

4:39

I'm not awake and he's like, well yeah,

4:42

but you're not, you won't remember anything. And

4:44

I'm like, let's start again. He said to

4:46

me, he goes, oh yeah, I'll be able

4:48

to talk to you. Now you might not

4:51

make any sense and you absolutely won't remember

4:53

any of it. But yeah, he said, I

4:55

went, but I thought I'd be asleep because

4:57

yeah, you'll be snoring as well, but you

5:00

know, I don't want to wake up. I

5:02

don't want to wake up. I don't want

5:04

to wake up. I don't want to wake

5:06

up. I don't want to wake up. I

5:09

don't want to wake up. And all of

5:11

a wake up. And all of a wake

5:13

up. And all of a wake up. And

5:16

all of a wake up. And all of

5:18

a wake up. And all of a wake

5:20

up. And all of a wake up. And

5:22

all of a wake up. And all of

5:25

a wake up. And all It's like, see,

5:27

that's sore, something like that. He goes, no,

5:29

no, there'll be none of that. You'd be

5:31

absolutely fine. He goes, but yeah, it's weird.

5:34

You might talk. He goes, I shouldn't say,

5:36

but we had a client in the other

5:38

week. They were under, and halfway through, they

5:41

put their hand up and went, stop. And

5:43

I stopped and went, I went, I'll get

5:45

out of it again. Oh. Now, Pippa smiles

5:47

when she hears that cat and crabbed makes

5:50

the face of the go, no, thank you,

5:52

not for me. Not for me. I kind

5:54

of wish she hadn't told you that. Do

5:56

you know what I mean? Yeah, you'll be

5:59

under. I'm very tempted to just video it

6:01

or record it, just in case. Because I

6:03

want to know what I'm saying. It would

6:05

be fascinating. I've met all of the spies

6:08

girls. I don't even drink coffee. I don't

6:10

know. Yeah, look at this idiot. Yeah. Let's

6:12

take that tooth out just right now. Discount.

6:15

Oh, I don't think he knows what that

6:17

word means. I really don't. Anyway, but listen,

6:19

I'm a brave boy. You are well done.

6:21

Yeah, I'm a big brave boy. I'm going

6:24

to go to the dentist with no fear.

6:26

I mean, yeah, sure, I'm going to get

6:28

knocked out while they literally, you know. That's

6:30

it. Put a fake cap on my tooth.

6:33

You might get a sticker afterwards, so imagine.

6:35

You got last though. You shouldn't have to

6:37

ask for them up to adults. You've got

6:40

to ask, you've got to say, excuse me,

6:42

do you have stickers, do you have stickers?

6:44

Well it used to be lollies. Do you

6:46

remember I had not been to the dentist

6:49

for a long time and afterwards I went,

6:51

I've been such a brave boy, I can

6:53

have a lolly. The woman looked to me

6:55

and went, you really haven't been to the

6:58

dentist for a long time have you? We

7:00

don't give out lollies. I give a shivery

7:02

sweets anymore. Oh yeah! What do you think

7:04

about it? Would you? Yeah, yeah man. Curry.

7:07

Yeah man. Yeah man. What kind of career

7:09

would you like? No one cares. Buna? I

7:11

love a buna. Okay, all right, you actually

7:14

answered it. Okay, lovely. Lamb, Lamboonio. Yep, okay.

7:16

All right. In other news, well, okay. Yeah,

7:18

thank you. Yeah, thank you. In other news,

7:20

coming up in the podcast, as Dobnik said,

7:23

we got some guests. Yes, lots of guests

7:25

actually. And we will be talking to Richard

7:27

Hammond. We will. Oh, he doesn't like you.

7:29

Well, I mean, this will be evident. I

7:32

thought we got on very well, always, usually,

7:34

but... There's almost a fight in the corridor

7:36

outside the studio. Really was. I mean, you

7:39

did one, I had to put on my

7:41

money on you. I would have... Goodbye mortgage.

7:43

See you, Richard. I'd have duffed him up.

7:45

Oh, you would have literally... Pow, pow, pow,

7:48

poo! Chicken, a bit more. No, no, we'll

7:50

do that at the end. Because we have

7:52

to back-reference. Come on, podcast time, let's go.

7:54

Oh yeah. I know what you're talking about.

7:57

Shall I play the clip? Yeah. Here was

7:59

the clip. She

8:03

didn't buy James a secret

8:05

center. I owe him. I

8:07

owe him. I owe him.

8:10

Shud done by James an

8:12

extra present to make up

8:14

for crappy secret Santa. Yes.

8:17

Yes. Yes. And I say

8:19

yes. Yes. Yes. I will.

8:22

By the podcast next week.

8:24

He has to have got

8:26

James something. Oh wow. Okay.

8:29

You give me a secret.

8:35

The words were by the podcast next

8:37

week. Did you edit that to make

8:39

me say those words or did I

8:41

say those words? By the podcast next

8:43

week you will have given James a

8:45

decent secret Santa gift. The podcast has

8:47

arrived which means we have passed the

8:49

time. So now is the time to

8:51

give James a secret? No no no,

8:53

it was by the time, by the

8:55

podcast next week you will have given

8:57

him his secret something. I

9:02

remembered, on Wednesday this week, damn it,

9:04

ordered a little something for James for

9:07

the podcast. Guilt has weight. Guilt has

9:09

weight. Guilt has weight is right. Can

9:11

I open it now? Wait, wait, wait.

9:14

Did you do that this morning? Oh,

9:16

genuinely you did it in the week.

9:18

I did it Wednesday, ordered it, arrived

9:21

yesterday, so today. Go and then you

9:23

could open it. Yes. Thank you, John.

9:25

You're right, James. It was never in

9:28

doubt. I was always going to get

9:30

you something, wasn't I? That's what I

9:32

was saying. Who's it from? What do

9:35

you think it is? Um... It's heavy.

9:37

A cuddly toy? Is it one of

9:39

pepper friends? I wrapped up, hefty Helen.

9:42

Happy steps! It's being done! It is!

9:44

Rum Shaka selection of Rum's election! There

9:46

you go. Oh my God, you've got

9:49

him, you've got him booze! I've got

9:51

him, I thought you could sample some

9:53

now if you wanted to. You know

9:56

what, I love you. It's double ginger.

9:58

Nice. Thank you, dog. You're very well,

10:00

James. Eight bottles of alcohol. Old Jay?

10:03

It's four rums and four mixes. That's

10:05

a really nice person. Thank you. Well

10:07

done, dog. Thank you. Did you go

10:10

out and buy that for him? No,

10:12

I didn't go out, I bought it

10:14

online. Did you buy it online or

10:17

if you re-gifted? No, no, that's good.

10:19

I can show you the receipt. No,

10:21

no, I don't need to see the

10:24

receipt. I'm not one to shoot you

10:26

down, right? You did it, and that's

10:28

pretty. We did say though, buy the

10:31

podcast, you would have done it. Well,

10:33

it is a podcast. So, you've done

10:35

it in the podcast, so it means

10:38

you have technical fail. So, the question

10:40

is... Should he get James another one

10:42

to apologize for this one being late?

10:45

By the podcast next week? No, no,

10:47

in the podcast next week, should James

10:49

get one more gift? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

10:52

yeah. One more gift. Yeah, go, one

10:54

more. Yeah, you say no? Oh, John,

10:56

what do you say? Well, if James

10:59

say no, I'll say no, I'll say

11:01

no as well. Two no and the

11:03

yes. Yeah, my vote, I vote, I

11:06

vote, I vote, I vote for next

11:08

Christmas. It'll be like, oh, it's my

11:10

turn, I forgot, oh, that's a nice

11:13

gift, thank you. Very welcome, James. Cherry-spiced

11:15

rum. Cherry-spiced rum. You're so... Despite the

11:17

fact you work on the radio, bought

11:20

him the most noisiest box that has

11:22

ever been made. Well, I thought... You

11:24

can't pick it up without it making

11:27

creaking noises. I thought he might be

11:29

tempted to have a little drink now,

11:31

actually. That was the idea. But you

11:34

can keep until you get home, it's

11:36

up to you. for a beer captain.

11:38

Where are you going? We're going to

11:41

a place where I'll buy all your

11:43

booze and you don't have to spend

11:45

a penny on night. I'll even get

11:48

your taxi home and book you a

11:50

cab to be delivered. Oh Christ, can

11:52

I bring one out of friends? You

11:55

greedy! They'll pay them cells. They'll pay

11:57

themselves. They'll pay for them. Hang out

11:59

with your friends. I'll have that bombshell.

12:01

I'm going out. Let's get into it

12:04

then. All the best bits from our

12:06

radio show from this week. Welcome ladies

12:08

and gentlemen to the

12:11

Chris Mile show podcast.

12:13

Enjoy! big

12:23

bum I've a big bum all right

12:25

captain it's big it's tight it's firm

12:27

it's number one we're on the air

12:29

captain all right what did I say

12:31

just just pay attention will you we're

12:33

gonna do big bum big bum I

12:35

still turn ladies aren't all right captain

12:37

all right we're on the radio we're

12:39

on live stop banging on about it

12:41

swearing Okay, 931. It's big, it's hard,

12:43

it's like a radiator. Baby check me

12:46

out, because I'm a sexy alligator. All

12:48

right. Okay. I mean, James was quiet

12:50

for like the last seven minutes in

12:52

the studio, and I now know why.

12:54

Let's do an emails. Yeah. He's faxing

12:56

people. We're going to do... Big bum,

12:58

big bum. I have a big bum.

13:00

It's big. It's tight, it's firm, it's

13:03

number one. Right. Now, please phone one

13:05

of your friends and we'll just play

13:07

that down. Who do we call with

13:09

that? Who would you want to call?

13:11

Callum? Will Manning. Oh, let's call.

13:13

Lady. A lady! A lady! Yes!

13:15

And it's changed over Brian's mystery

13:18

out today. Chris is on the

13:20

line, question around to Chris. Big

13:22

bum, big bum. I have a

13:24

big bum. It's big, it's tight,

13:27

it's firm, it's number one. 932

13:29

is the time. It's mystery out,

13:31

question or answer. Big bum, I

13:33

have a big bum, but I

13:36

still turn ladies on. Okay, we've

13:38

got a cross line there, I

13:40

think. Hi Sheila Foggeter here on

13:42

LBC, Chris is on the line

13:44

now, good morning Chris. It's big,

13:46

it's hot, it's like a radiator,

13:49

baby check me out, because I'm

13:51

a sexy alligator. Right, okay.

13:53

That's good. I want to show you

13:55

a bottom. Big bum, big bum, I

13:57

have a big bum. This show is

14:00

great. That's right. We started the show

14:02

in September 2015. It'll be 10 years

14:04

for September. We are excited to tell

14:06

you that it's the return of the

14:09

Chris Boyle show podcast. We started the

14:11

show in September 2015. It'll be 10

14:13

years for September. There is a charity

14:15

that Global Set Up called Globals Make

14:18

Some Noise. And they were asking us

14:20

to do something, sit in a bath

14:22

of beans or dress up as a

14:24

katyperia, some mind-nomingly irritating thing like that.

14:27

And we said, no, why don't we

14:29

go to the pub and we'll record

14:31

a pub, a pub cast while we're

14:33

in the pub, drunk. And then we'll

14:36

put it out and people can donate

14:38

to download it. And it made about

14:40

25 thousand pound. Yeah. We were delighted

14:42

with that. And then the next year,

14:45

which by the way I still maintain

14:47

is more than sitting in a bath

14:49

of beans, then the next year we

14:51

did it again and it raised even

14:53

more money. We now do it every

14:56

single year and it has raised over

14:58

one million pounds for Globals Make Some

15:00

Noise. But we didn't do it last

15:02

year, but we did. We just didn't

15:05

release it because Toby was riding around

15:07

on a unicorn on the river Thames.

15:09

Or not on the river Thames. Sometimes

15:11

on the river Thames. It all got

15:14

a little bit weird. But we have

15:16

recorded it and we are going to

15:18

release it and it is going to

15:20

be out from Monday of next week.

15:23

Now I don't, I've not heard any

15:25

of it back. Neither have I. But

15:27

I do know I was leathered. You

15:29

were every year somebody gets battered drunk.

15:32

And this year it just so happened

15:34

unbeknownst to everybody it was my turn

15:36

it took everyone by surprise including yourself.

15:38

Oh. We didn't see it coming? Absolutely.

15:41

I was mortal. You really were. You

15:43

were band jacks. Apparently the giveaway sign

15:45

was when we were doing some questions

15:47

from our listeners and I was reading

15:49

them out and then I'm like let's

15:52

do more questions and just started reading

15:54

out all the questions that we'd already

15:56

put down. Pipers politely going, you done

15:58

that one? Are you doing that one

16:01

as well? So I'm merry during it

16:03

but apparently is when it finished I

16:05

just yeah I think as soon as

16:07

it finished I don't know what happened

16:10

but yeah he started hugging somebody who

16:12

we won't reveal yet next Monday the

16:14

podcast is going to be available to

16:16

download as we go into our 10th

16:19

year but with our ninth podcast the

16:21

guest is Chris Tarrant yeah Toby Tarrant's

16:23

dad and Pippers Daddy-in-law. Father-in-law. Daddy-in-law. Look

16:25

who's joined us in the studio. It's

16:28

Louise Wenner. Yeah! Hello! How are you?

16:30

I'm good. I'm a little bit January,

16:32

but January is on the way out,

16:34

so yeah. Yeah. When you say that,

16:37

what do you mean? Do you mean

16:39

blue? Do you mean try? Not try?

16:41

Because like who can do that in

16:43

January, that's the time where you have

16:45

to not be. Yeah. It's when you

16:48

need to drink. What month can you

16:50

do, try? August. Oh God, no! Full

16:52

sunshine, no? No, no! The answer is

16:54

no mother. No mind, you could be

16:57

correct. Well, welcome to the show, so

16:59

I just embarrassingly said to Louis, well

17:01

not embarrassing, I don't think I don't

17:03

think you've been on the show before,

17:06

because yeah I have actually, thanks very

17:08

much, but it was on the phone,

17:10

so that doesn't matter. I'm still hurt,

17:12

you don't remember. Sorry Louise, Louise, Louise,

17:15

that you're... in today? It's lovely to

17:17

see. I think you're very well aware

17:19

that you know there was a point

17:21

in in time in your life where

17:24

every heterosexual man on the planet was

17:26

attracted to you. No? Well yeah it

17:28

was. I don't think that's true. No

17:30

it is true. I think it was

17:33

with the women. It was women and

17:35

men. Everybody fancied you. And they still

17:37

do. Yeah. I don't know what to

17:39

say so, what I meant to say.

17:41

Just go, cheers. Can we show Louise

17:44

the photograph of when you two last

17:46

met? If you really want to get

17:48

out of the way now, yeah. Shall

17:50

we? So this was in, I think

17:53

I'm right in saying, 2017. She ever

17:55

said she ever said, and it was

17:57

like I'll come back, because it'll come

17:59

back big. Yeah. and I went to

18:02

the pub with my friend Jamie and

18:04

we had a few points and then

18:06

we went to watch the show which

18:08

was brilliant I had a few more

18:11

drinks and then went back to say

18:13

hello and had a few more drinks

18:15

and then we had a picture and

18:17

I looked at it absolutely that's it

18:20

there you are that's me It's quite

18:22

common. I look a bit busted. No,

18:24

you don't at all. You look like

18:26

you've just been on stage for an

18:29

hour and a half and you've had

18:31

like half a glass of wine. I

18:33

look like I've been drinking for a

18:35

month. I am leathered. I'm not sure

18:37

where you're looking. Because it's all like,

18:40

you know, alcohol free beer and vegan

18:42

cheese backstage now. Yeah, sure. I'm sure

18:44

it is. That's what it is. So,

18:46

let's talk about the band sleeper. Because

18:49

that's your band and their brilliant band.

18:51

Thank you. They are. I don't know

18:53

the beginnings of your of the band

18:55

of how it all began and how

18:58

long it took for you guys to

19:00

get signed. Was it was it easy?

19:02

Was it difficult? It took forever. It's

19:04

if we were sort of kicking around

19:07

in so tiny little clubs for what

19:09

it felt like years. It probably was

19:11

years. So we started at Manchester University,

19:13

me and John and then we sort

19:16

of came down to London, we sort

19:18

of... made a new band, it went

19:20

through lots of iterations. And then we

19:22

just kicked around and... And we got

19:25

a sign it took, I don't know,

19:27

probably two, three years after we came

19:29

to London. So it wasn't quick, it

19:31

wasn't a quick fix. And was there

19:33

any point where you're like, this is

19:36

not going to happen? Or was it

19:38

just fun still doing the gigs and

19:40

stuff? It was fun still doing the

19:42

gigs and stuff? But I was really,

19:45

I was so ambitious for it. And

19:47

I was like, I just, I was

19:49

so committed. I felt like it. Lovely

19:51

bands, it was sort of making it

19:54

and getting somewhere and I was like,

19:56

if they can do it. Yeah, they

19:58

don't deserve to be signed, we do.

20:00

We do, so I was a lot

20:03

like that, I was like, come on,

20:05

and then, yeah, eventually. Which was the

20:07

worst band that got signed before you?

20:09

Lots of things, I'm not going to

20:12

say, but it's really mean, isn't it?

20:14

Why sleeper, why the name sleeper, I

20:16

don't think I actually know the answer?

20:18

We had to choose very far, so

20:21

we had another name when we got

20:23

signed when we got signed when we

20:25

got signed, when we got signed. and

20:27

they gave us the record company because

20:29

they gave us a week to decide

20:32

you could have come with a new

20:34

name by sort of what was the

20:36

name of the original it was called

20:38

surrender Dorothy which is a terrible name

20:41

yes it's what the witch writes in

20:43

the sky yeah yeah yeah terrible name

20:45

terrible isn't it? You're so Artie back

20:47

then weren't it? We were a little

20:50

bit artie we're still a bit artie

20:52

and then were you happy with the

20:54

name sleeper or was it if did

20:56

it feel brushed? It felt like all

20:59

bad names, they sort of grow on

21:01

you, it's like they cease to mean

21:03

what they mean, it just become, they

21:05

become part of your identity, don't they?

21:08

So it's about you, it's about what

21:10

you do. So it kind of doesn't

21:12

matter in some level. But everyone had

21:14

a one word name, that was the

21:17

thing, everyone had a different name that

21:19

was this one. They really did, didn't

21:21

they? It was like super grass, blur,

21:23

elastic, oasis. You needed a one word,

21:25

succinct, succinct. Right name sleep is great.

21:28

So you get signed and then you

21:30

go into the studio to record your

21:32

first album. Yes. And it's all exciting.

21:34

This is going to be brilliant. We

21:37

had no idea what we were doing

21:39

Chris. You're going to be on top.

21:41

the parks and stuff. Yeah, and all

21:43

that happened. It did. I mean making

21:46

the first album was quite hard because

21:48

we literally didn't know what we were

21:50

doing and we kind of we sort

21:52

of drove our producer then produced it

21:55

almost to a breakdown. Because we used

21:57

to get up in the middle of

21:59

the night and re-record everything. I'd go

22:01

to bed, I'd work with them when

22:04

I find the guys that just re-recorded

22:06

it all. Wow. I know we've got

22:08

a sort again. It was kind of

22:10

mayhem. It was mayhem. But then it

22:13

all just sort of came together. Stephen

22:15

Street mixed in between of earth. Great.

22:17

And it just sort of... He knows

22:19

what he's doing. He's quite good, isn't

22:21

he? He's fairly steady. Yeah, he's fairly

22:24

steady. So what are you going to

22:26

do to celebrate 30 years? I don't

22:28

know, have a cup of tea. Dry

22:30

August. Yeah, no, we're going on to

22:33

September, October. How excited. It's going to

22:35

be great. Go, what a great, great

22:37

time you'll have. It's really good it's

22:39

really good it's it'll be great yeah.

22:42

So Sleeper what you did what three

22:44

three albums yes and then you split

22:46

up then we split yeah why well

22:48

it just came to the end of

22:51

the road really the third album didn't

22:53

sell that grey Britpop was kind of

22:55

it kind of had a sort of

22:57

implosion it fell apart a little bit

23:00

I think I also think it became

23:02

a bit embarrassed of itself so then

23:04

you went off and you wrote for

23:06

a bit for a bit You wrote

23:08

some big books? I did, I wrote

23:11

five books. Yeah, that's amazing. So if

23:13

somebody meets you now, let's just say

23:15

you go on holiday for a week,

23:17

right, with a family, and then you're

23:20

having a drink at the bar, or

23:22

you're bumping into the same couples at

23:24

breakfast every day, and you get chatted

23:26

and they go, so what do you

23:29

do? What do you do? What's your

23:31

answer? I'm sort of like a writer

23:33

musician, something, something, I don't know. We've

23:35

got some text coming. I have a

23:38

unique midlife crisis tattoo from Louisiana. I've

23:40

been a huge sleeper. since their first

23:42

album. Recently during their unplug tour I

23:44

was looking enough to meet the band.

23:47

Louise signed the band's name and I

23:49

got it tattooed along with the album

23:51

art. Please thank her again from me.

23:53

I was so nervous. That's from... That's

23:56

from... That's a lot of pressure, isn't

23:58

it? Yeah, it says please sign, and

24:00

I've got terrible handwriting. There is, there

24:02

is, there is, I can't, I can't,

24:04

I can't, that's too much pressure. Yeah,

24:07

do you know what, I messed it

24:09

up. I'm a big fan, and I

24:11

love you, but not a chance, I

24:13

love you, but not a chance, I

24:16

don't know, I have any. Would you

24:18

like me to write my name on

24:20

your arms? No. Okay, fair enough. So

24:22

are you excited? Yes, you know what,

24:25

I think live music is the best

24:27

thing isn't it? So standing in a

24:29

room, singing along with hundreds of people

24:31

to a song you love. It's really

24:34

one of the most wonderful things. So

24:36

I love that. I don't love touring,

24:38

basically. No. So I love this schlepping.

24:40

No, it's tricky. It's tricky. It's more

24:43

enjoyable. in some ways and it used

24:45

to. Were you nervous about, so what

24:47

was it, 2017 when he did the

24:49

tour? And that was the first tour

24:52

in years? Almost 20 years. Wow. I

24:54

had stage fright. for the first time

24:56

ever on that. Really? Yeah, I've never.

24:58

On the first night? On that first

25:00

night, I've never experienced it before. I

25:03

mean, you get a bit nervous, but

25:05

can you get, it's mostly sort of

25:07

excitement and you sort of need a

25:09

bit of that before you go a

25:12

little bit at that adrenaline. But then

25:14

if it's a 20 year break, it's

25:16

not surprising, I suppose. And I was

25:18

not expecting it, so it came at

25:21

me and I was like, I don't

25:23

know how to handle this, because I've

25:25

not had it, because I've not had

25:27

it, I've not had it, I've not

25:30

had it, so, I've not had it,

25:32

I've not had it, I've not had

25:34

it, I don't know what to do

25:36

it, I do it, I don't know

25:39

what to do it, I do it,

25:41

Did that work? It worked. And then

25:43

the next night you were fine. Courtney

25:45

cured me. And the rest of the

25:48

thing like, oh God, what we're going

25:50

to do? She's collapsing. What do we

25:52

do? How do we do? What do

25:54

we do now? And it's like, it's

25:56

fine. And I was like, I walked

25:59

out. I was like. Donna I put

26:01

on my red lipstick, I'm fine, let's

26:03

go, and it was absolutely brilliant. And

26:05

I've not had it again, thank God.

26:08

Is the red lipstick the rock star

26:10

outfit? You need a bit. Are you

26:12

writing stuff now? Yeah. Are you recording

26:14

stuff now? I'm doing stuff now. I'm

26:16

doing stuff now. And it's coming about

26:18

in a slightly different way that I'm

26:20

not going to talk about too much,

26:23

but I'm really loving it. I think

26:25

it was. But obviously

26:27

you're not going to get

26:29

their tattoo, but you know.

26:31

But you're not getting a

26:33

tattoo of my name either.

26:35

It's fine. Well, it's exactly

26:37

the same. I'll get a

26:39

tattoo of your name if

26:41

you get a tattoo of

26:43

mine. Fine. You go first.

26:45

I'm a crazy woman. I'm

26:47

a fan of Leupa. And

26:49

Louise, we're not. When was

26:51

the last time you met

26:53

Louise? Okay, good gig. Oh, awesome.

26:55

The best. They're brilliant live.

26:58

And then there were little drinks

27:00

backstage and we were invited back

27:03

for a little drink. Oh, nice.

27:05

That's nice. Now, just to say,

27:07

Drankan and I met in the pub

27:09

next door and then had a few

27:12

pints and then had a few pints

27:14

during the show. Ah. So I have a

27:16

photo of me. Would you like to

27:18

see a picture of me and Louise

27:21

Winner from Sleeper from after that gig?

27:23

Of course. I wanted to be

27:25

honest, when I put it on the

27:27

screen, you tell me if you can

27:29

tell if I've had a few drinks.

27:31

Okay, I'll be genuinely 100% honest. And

27:33

here's the picture. Yep, you are absolutely

27:36

leathered. One night looking at you're looking

27:38

for you. Honestly, if you were serving

27:40

behind a bar there and you

27:42

said who's next, three people would

27:44

say I'll have a pipe please.

27:46

Now James reckons that's like you

27:48

know when the technology used to

27:50

try and if you're a bit

27:52

red-eyed he used to try and

27:54

get rid of it. Or try

27:56

and correct your eye. Oh you

27:58

like absolutely haven't. Look at that beard

28:01

though, it's 5050 dark and white, black

28:03

and white, not now. What year is

28:05

this? 2017, I had to ask John

28:08

Callan, at 2017 that is. Now Louise

28:10

is looking directly at the camera. She's

28:12

fine. Now she's been on stage for

28:14

an hour and a half. Yeah. Yeah,

28:17

she looks gorg. And I've been boozing

28:19

it up like a rumman. It's one

28:21

of those photos where there's definitely a

28:23

noise that would have accompanied it. It

28:25

would have been like, eh. Do you

28:28

know what I mean? Come on, let's

28:30

have a picture. Eh. It looks like

28:32

her head is propping up yours a

28:34

little bit. A little bit. I think

28:37

I was lathered. I'm going to be

28:39

honest. You know happy. The Chris Moyle

28:41

Show podcast. Right, let's

28:43

talk about lots of things that have

28:46

happened over the weekend. The worst thing

28:48

that happened was to do with James

28:50

Robinson. Yeah, the worst. This was shocking

28:52

news for all of us to receive.

28:54

The best thing. James was meant to

28:56

be flying to Barcelona on Friday and

28:58

the storm was coming in. So of

29:00

course we were all well excited that

29:02

his fight was going to get cancelled.

29:04

Yeah. And then he got a notification

29:07

saying his flight was delayed. His flight

29:09

was meant to be at 1140 on

29:11

Friday morning and then it got delayed.

29:13

I delayed it from 1140 until 1141.

29:15

I could cope with that. Yeah. And

29:17

then, didn't it move it back? And

29:19

then it came back to 1140. And

29:21

I bet you didn't take off till

29:23

about 5 plus 12. No, we were

29:25

bang on time. Really? I don't think

29:28

I've ever been on a plane that's

29:30

taken off on time. No. Well, no,

29:32

he'd left the taxiway. I don't know

29:34

at time. Yeah. Right, well, that's what

29:36

I mean. It's never on time. It's

29:38

never on time. It's never on. So

29:40

in. So in. So in the air

29:42

at. So in the air at 1140.

29:44

1147 is when the wheels came off

29:47

the ground wow that's good it's when

29:49

the wheels came off not off not

29:51

off anyway so not only was his

29:53

flight on time but he only went

29:55

and got a blooming upgrade did he

29:57

got a free blooming upgrade which by

29:59

the way I hope you thought about

30:01

not taken. What do you mean? But

30:03

where were you going? Barcelona. To see

30:05

who? Chelsea. And what's her job? Cheap

30:08

holiday expert. So really? Should you be

30:10

taking that upgrade to business? You've got

30:12

to show variance. Right. Well for the

30:14

cheap holiday expert. So I've got to

30:16

show what is available and then she's

30:18

going to defend it. Right, okay. I

30:20

can't wait to do a company. The

30:22

luxury, very expensive holiday expert company. It

30:24

is the cheap holiday expert because it

30:26

was cheap because it was free. Okay,

30:29

so what's your advice to people listening?

30:31

How do they get a free upgrade

30:33

to Barcelona? What they need to do

30:35

is work on a national radio shop

30:37

where... People listen who love the show

30:39

right and then they're just so happening

30:41

to be listening that morning when I

30:43

announced the plane time Where does this

30:45

person work this British Airways? All I

30:47

know I got a tap on a

30:50

shop my shoulder and this woman came

30:52

to me called Jillian who was lovely

30:54

and she said are you mr. Robinson

30:56

and I was like I'm gonna get

30:58

booted off I was not showing my

31:00

passport correctly or something. I was like,

31:02

not they might recognise you from the

31:04

radio. That was new first. Because I

31:06

was last on the plane. I was

31:08

last on the plane. Right. And she

31:11

was like, you Mr. Robinson? I was

31:13

like, yeah. And she was like, do

31:15

you know Terry? I was like, Terry.

31:17

Terry Tibbs. Terry Tim. He said he

31:19

was listening to the Chris Memorial Show

31:21

this morning. And he'd like to move

31:23

you to the front of the plane.

31:25

Who's Terry? Terry sounds awesome. She said,

31:27

would you like that? I was like,

31:30

yeah, I would love that. She'd like,

31:32

you get a meal up there as

31:34

well. I was like, yes, I moved

31:36

from 21 to row four. Oh, lovely.

31:38

Now, can I just say, I'm pleased

31:40

for you, I'm delighted for you. That's

31:42

why he's jammy. He's jammy. Exactly, James.

31:44

But what James just told you there

31:46

is the complete opposite of what the

31:48

complete opposite of the Chris Boyle show

31:51

had when he flew B. I was

31:53

in my seat. Excuse me sir. Can

31:55

we have a word? He got, excuse

31:57

me sir and thought, oh I'm gonna

31:59

get. kicked off this flight. I thought

32:01

I'm going to get upgraded. James thought

32:03

he was going to get kicked off

32:05

but got an upgrade. I thought I

32:07

was going to get an upgrade and

32:09

they asked me to get off the

32:12

plane. Yeah. Very different experience with the

32:14

same company. Very different. I had three

32:16

gyms and some salmon. Oh lovely. I

32:18

had a 20-minute conversation in front of

32:20

the entire plane while I was trying

32:22

to desperately say please do not take

32:24

me off this flight. Oh my goodness.

32:26

Very different experience. So, you are the

32:28

man that sings like Robbie Williams in

32:30

Robbie Williams' new- I've heard you got

32:33

a lot of questions for me. I've

32:35

heard you've got a lot of questions

32:37

for me. I've got so many questions.

32:39

So, you are the man that sings

32:41

like Robbie Williams in Robbie Williams' new

32:43

movie. That is it. Yeah, that is

32:45

me. I have this kind of weird

32:47

talent that I can kind of sound

32:49

like Robbie Williams. When did you know

32:51

that you sounded like Robbie Williams? Well

32:54

he's playing a band of a guy

32:56

and he always used to say I

32:58

sounded like Robbie Williams like every gig

33:00

we used to kind of finish you

33:02

know like with angels at the end

33:04

as most bands do and I used

33:06

to play it off and he used

33:08

to kind of just say it all

33:10

the time. So let's go back so

33:13

you stood in music in Leeds? I

33:15

did yeah big up Leeds I did

33:17

actually see you in Leeds once. Yeah,

33:19

I was in the Trinity Center, I

33:21

think. I didn't call your name. I

33:23

didn't want to embarrass you. You just...

33:25

On my own? Yeah, on your own.

33:27

Doesn't sound like that. Well, you're buying,

33:29

I wonder. It doesn't matter. So, yeah,

33:31

so you did that, and then you

33:34

got with the lead contemporary singers. Oh,

33:36

yeah, yeah, so that was just a

33:38

group of mates from from Union, yeah.

33:40

And then you entered the pitch battle,

33:42

which was the BBC talent contest, and

33:44

did you won it. Yeah we won

33:46

it yeah yeah yeah they only showed

33:48

one season of it So that's how

33:50

good it was. Hey, we won it.

33:52

Because nobody else could beat you. Well,

33:55

he's out. You've set the bar too

33:57

high. That's what it was. Still the

33:59

champion. The bar was too high. Exactly.

34:01

And what happened to the leads contemporary

34:03

singers? It was like eight of us

34:05

and I think everyone wanted to do

34:07

something kind of a bit different and

34:09

yeah we just kind of split up

34:11

really just because you know trying to

34:13

get eight people in a room was

34:16

nearly impossible and some of them are

34:18

doing amazing things that I think one

34:20

of the guys acting he now sings

34:22

with Stormsey. Yeah and some other people

34:24

are doing some really crazy. It starts

34:26

you aware that he used to be

34:28

basically the Yorkshire version of Glee. We've

34:30

exposed him now. Are you a full-time

34:32

singer? Yeah, I sing full-time. I play

34:34

in bat and now I do a

34:37

lot of Robbie songs as you can

34:39

imagine. But yeah, I'm a full-time singer.

34:41

I've been a songwriter and an artist

34:43

for years. Obviously this is just kind

34:45

of like the first, it's kind of

34:47

the first thing that I've been able

34:49

to kind of get my name on

34:51

that's kind of elevated me. It's not

34:53

that you've not always sounded like Robbie

34:55

Williams to be fair though. You know

34:58

when you wish you've deleted things off

35:00

like YouTube? That sounds nice I think.

35:02

How long ago was that? I don't

35:04

know. That sounds nice I think. How

35:06

long ago was that? I'll tell you.

35:08

Go on 2010. That was the first,

35:10

I remember that was the first song

35:12

that I like. recorded and then put

35:14

out on like YouTube or in the

35:17

public. Thanks for bringing that up. But

35:19

yeah, notice. I like to build people

35:21

up and drink them back down again.

35:23

Okay, so talk to me. So I've

35:25

heard a story of how you got

35:27

it, but I always like to know

35:29

the full thing. So how do you

35:31

go from singing and band? and sounding

35:33

a bit like Robbie and then being

35:35

then getting to the movie how does

35:38

it how does it happen well like

35:40

most things it sort of starts in

35:42

a British things it starts in a

35:44

pub and it's my friend who said

35:46

I used to sound like him who

35:48

was in a band with he moved

35:50

to he moved to London and he

35:52

lives next door to a guy who's

35:54

an agent or like a fixer in

35:56

films called Ben and he was casting

35:59

for the or he was looking for

36:01

a singer who sounded like Robbie he

36:03

got word and they yeah basically they

36:05

always get jobs in like constantly getting

36:07

jobs in for like you know I

36:09

don't know. Any type of singer or

36:11

it might be like really weird jobs

36:13

as well, like, oh I need a

36:15

Mexican woman who sounds like this or

36:17

something like that. So that Robbie Job

36:20

came in, just my friend was talking

36:22

to his neighbour in the pub and

36:24

yeah, he was just like saying, I

36:26

don't suppose you know anyone who sounds

36:28

like, probably really goes actually. That's so

36:30

random between you and me, don't say

36:32

anything, wouldn't say anything. Robbie Robbie women's

36:34

film, so I gotta try and find

36:36

somebody who sounds like like like like

36:38

like like like early Robbie Robbie Robbie

36:41

Robbie Robbie Robbie Robbie Robbie Robbie, like

36:43

like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

36:45

like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

36:47

like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

36:49

like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

36:51

like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

36:53

like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

36:55

like, like, like, like William, so I

36:57

suppose you know anyone do you? Well,

37:00

actually, yeah, I do. Weirdly, yes. Yeah,

37:02

he's called Adam, yeah, yeah, you should,

37:04

Adam, yeah, I'll check him out. Next

37:06

thing is, yeah, you've got the gig.

37:08

That's a bit of fate, isn't it?

37:10

That literally, I think the conversation, that

37:12

was very close to the conversation that

37:14

they probably had. He, yeah, he just

37:16

kind of like, like, I... It's so

37:18

random, like it was literally like, Ben

37:21

didn't call me up initially, it was

37:23

my mate Ed who I've been in

37:25

the band with, he's like, oh, you'll

37:27

never guess what? And I was like,

37:29

go on, he's like, you know, I

37:31

just say, he sounded like Robbie Williams,

37:33

he's like, you might, I've got, I've

37:35

got you a step closer to being

37:37

him. It was a long process, I

37:39

mean, I obviously done that, it was

37:42

all like online, because obviously they're Australian,

37:44

like, like, they're Australian, like, like, like,

37:46

like, like, they're Australian, like, like, like,

37:48

like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

37:50

like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

37:52

like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

37:54

like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

37:56

like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

37:58

like, like, like, like, and what was

38:00

the reason for not using

38:03

Robbie in a film about Robbie as

38:05

you get older like your voice

38:07

tech changes in like tombra and

38:10

like obviously like he he used

38:12

to be you know he used

38:14

to be able to like his

38:16

voice obviously sounded very different

38:18

yeah so yeah that's where they got

38:20

me in to kind of almost like

38:22

not pull you out of the film

38:25

because I think if you heard like

38:27

Robbie kind of sounding a little older

38:29

when he was auditioning as a 16

38:31

year old yeah that's a good point

38:33

actually you'd be a bit like yeah

38:35

it be really jarring so I guess

38:37

like that's why yeah they they put

38:39

me in there and then obviously like

38:41

he does sing in the film like

38:43

they're out there they're bits where he

38:45

sings in the film there's bits where

38:47

we both sing in the film

38:49

and in the same songs really

38:52

mad yeah and congratulations by the way

38:54

on your number one album oh thank

38:56

you very much yes so on the

38:58

album rock DJ is Robbie and come

39:00

undone is you So the film and the,

39:02

like Robbie has also re-recorded some stuff

39:05

for the soundtrack. Like something beautiful is

39:07

like a full version that he recorded.

39:09

I think he done like Land of

39:11

a Thousand Dances, he added bits into

39:14

it. So he's done quite a lot

39:16

additional work. Like so the film is

39:18

quite, I would say different, it's the

39:20

same songs, but obviously it's like an

39:23

amalgamation of our voices. And also I...

39:25

cannot myself tell in some of

39:27

the songs when I'm singing, when

39:29

he's... Really? And that's my voice.

39:32

That's incredible. Sorry, sorry. We've got

39:34

some clips. What do you want to

39:36

hear? Just to hear you singing? Well,

39:39

we've got you, I don't think

39:41

this is necessarily from the film,

39:43

but we've got you singing... You're

39:49

phrasing it's some

39:52

of it is

39:54

scarily spot-on That

39:57

that is there

39:59

It's so minute. Like,

40:01

it's a real science

40:04

too, isn't it? Listen,

40:06

it's a great thing.

40:08

It's an amazing, it's

40:10

amazing, and now that's

40:12

around forever. Big up

40:14

Kingsley and Adam as

40:16

well. That's a little

40:18

anecdote about Kingsley, actually.

40:20

I actually saw you

40:22

in 1998 at Hunstanton.

40:24

Yeah! And also, my

40:27

ex-girlfriends, my ex-girlfriend's dad,

40:29

used to drive you

40:31

around. What? Okay, I'm

40:33

going to keep you

40:35

off now because it's

40:37

going to a little

40:39

bit worse. This is

40:41

the Chris Moyle Show

40:43

podcast. Right, Pippby, you

40:45

said you've got a

40:47

meeting today. Yes, I

40:50

do. Yeah, with who

40:52

is it again? Little

40:54

10-minute meeting with Dan

40:56

Walker. Classic and Ben.

40:58

Right. Oh, Dan Walker,

41:00

yeah. I need for

41:02

the Cuckoo sound. Here's

41:04

a letter from a

41:06

young lady. Will call

41:08

her Pipper. Now, Pipper

41:10

got herself involved with

41:13

a man at work.

41:15

Sort of. And... For

41:17

a while, they swapped

41:19

emoji Watson messages. Basketball's,

41:21

o machine, umbrellas, yeah.

41:23

Santa Claus, cupcake. Curlingstone.

41:25

Yeah, that kind of

41:27

stuff. The classic curlingstone.

41:29

Yeah. And all of

41:31

a sudden, quite literally,

41:33

in and in the

41:36

blue, a friendship started

41:38

to blossom. The messages.

41:40

carried on for a

41:42

while until inevitably, Dan,

41:44

the man, asked to

41:46

pick her out on

41:48

a hot sexy date.

41:50

Julie obliged and said

41:52

I'd love to go

41:54

on a hot sexy

41:56

date with you and

41:59

a hot sexy day

42:01

coffee date and she

42:03

put her own emotions

42:05

in there and post

42:07

a skip on fire

42:09

and a bus shelter

42:11

with one trainer on

42:13

the top. There was

42:15

nothing. Anyway that day

42:17

is today after the

42:19

show meeting. And this

42:22

song will always remind

42:24

Pipper of those good

42:26

times. That thing

42:28

in the studio by the way.

42:30

By the air conditioning doodar. Right.

42:32

Let me have a lot. Someone's

42:34

putting a little, tucked behind it,

42:37

a photo of Dan Walker. Oh

42:39

yeah. Who's done that? I don't

42:41

know. Is that yours? James, did

42:43

you do that? I have not

42:45

got anything to do with that.

42:48

What sort of, what, like a

42:50

DJ photo, one of the... What

42:52

is it? I think there's a

42:54

tell tell tell side and you

42:56

tell me... Who's responsible? I think

42:59

it's a fridge magnet promoting Dan

43:01

Walker's show on Classic FM. There

43:03

is a telltale sign. Do you

43:05

want to show it to Pippa?

43:07

See if you can see the

43:10

telltale sign there. I mean, it's

43:12

got the artist's tag on it.

43:14

Absolutely. It's got change in all

43:16

over it. It really has. Well.

43:18

I haven't been anywhere near. Have

43:21

a look at it, James? You

43:23

see? You left your tag on

43:25

there, you idiot. Yeah, it's got

43:27

some toast with the words jammed,

43:29

written on it. That's it. Classic.

43:32

It's not my graffiti tag. So

43:34

tell us, tell us, Holly, about

43:36

your hot date today. It's not

43:38

a hot date. It's a normal,

43:40

platonic. It's a hot date. Whenever

43:43

you buy your rent a video,

43:45

you need to be aware. Sorry.

43:47

It's a normal, just, well I

43:49

say normal, I'm not quite sure,

43:51

talk about perhaps the trick it

43:54

was because he's like president chairman

43:56

or something. Oh yeah. And I

43:58

don't know if that means that

44:00

he can get us any further.

44:02

Well he's certainly trying to get

44:05

further. Yeah, I think he is.

44:07

That's like, emoji. He ignores me

44:09

a few times. Yeah. But now,

44:11

he's absolutely not ignoring you though,

44:13

is he? No, because he sent

44:15

me flowers and then I feel

44:18

a little bit bad. Oh, I

44:20

forgot about the flowers. Oh, yeah.

44:22

This has escalated, actually, isn't it?

44:24

You know how it works? Come

44:26

on, you've dated guys before. You

44:29

send your flowers. That's thing is,

44:31

it's saucy, red, lacy underwear. That's

44:33

it. That's how it works. Oh.

44:35

He's suffering. He said, Dan, if

44:37

you're listening. He's not listening, he's

44:40

doing it. Well, you might be

44:42

listening. I would have his mind

44:44

there, playing bait over it. But

44:46

Dan's friends, listen. He'll be the

44:48

best man. He'd love it, yeah.

44:51

He'll be best man. He'll be

44:53

all over it. You could DJ

44:55

the wedding, Chris and I have

44:57

playing back to him. I'll be

44:59

there. I'm the umpire. Whenever you

45:02

buy or rent a coffee with

45:04

Dan Walker, you need to be

45:06

sure of the content that you're

45:08

about to experience. This coffee is

45:10

rated PG, which stands for, please

45:13

God let this be over and

45:15

quickly. I'm Simon Bates. Which stands

45:17

for please God, I believe. But

45:19

that's nice, nice romantic coffee. Do

45:21

you know what? In all serious

45:24

this, we're all behind it. And

45:26

is what's the deal? Is Toby's

45:28

on board with this, is this

45:30

like a, you know, like where

45:32

you live with pineapple and the

45:35

Pampers grass and all that? Is

45:37

it like open relationship? Yeah, is

45:39

there's a thing that you're in

45:41

to? Free love. We're sullying Dan's

45:43

good Christian name as well because

45:46

he's a good guy. Yeah he's

45:48

a girl. Georgia says... Very lovely

45:50

man, parley. She's damned if she

45:52

does and she's damned if she

45:54

doesn't. Thank you, George. That's very

45:57

good. So that's that. We're going

45:59

to talk about the Trick Awards.

46:01

Yeah. So he's the president of

46:03

those radio and television awards, isn't

46:05

he? Which we're entering today. Well,

46:08

what a coffee you're going to

46:10

have. Paper's going to say to

46:12

Dan, is there any way you

46:14

can help me with our entry?

46:16

Obviously, that'd be pretty. Yeah, that's

46:18

what I'm going to want. Any

46:21

advice? And he'll put his hand

46:23

on hers and go. Oh I

46:25

can help you. Yeah, I can.

46:27

Don't you worry about that. It's

46:29

not soon making it sound sinister

46:32

and so easy. No, that doesn't

46:34

sound sinister. That's what I'm saying.

46:36

I've got an award for you

46:38

right here. Look at that. And

46:40

this, uh, this has been a

46:43

one in two. D's. D's. D?

46:45

No! I genuinely am excited for

46:47

you. Last time Dan listened back

46:49

to a link, he listened back

46:51

with his wife. That's it. Oh,

46:54

his dad's happy married. Yeah, yeah,

46:56

yeah, it's all one big happy

46:58

family, isn't it? Mrs. Lovely Walker.

47:00

Dan, Dan Walker. His wife, you,

47:02

Toby? That's it. Quad? Do you

47:05

know? It's a quad, didn't it?

47:07

Yeah. This would all be just

47:09

the same. Very modern. If it

47:11

was James, James could have said

47:13

hello to Dan at the topic

47:16

once. You're right. You're right, but

47:18

he didn't know, did he? And

47:20

he's not in the scenario. Could

47:22

have happened to any of us.

47:24

He didn't send James Flowers, did

47:27

he did it? And you're going

47:29

to have a lovely coffee with

47:31

Dan Walker. And it's great that

47:33

he's now hanging out with women,

47:35

who he normally used to hate,

47:38

but now he's changing his ways,

47:40

he's becoming a modern man, and

47:42

that's brilliant. And that is lovely,

47:44

thank you. I like my women,

47:46

like I like my coffee, at

47:49

work. Brave! Yes! One man! One

47:51

woman! A photocopier! No. The parrot

47:53

emoji. Two basketball emocies. One curling

47:55

stone emoji. A handbag emoji. And

47:57

a rumored night in a hotel.

48:02

and Walker stars in

48:04

a classic love affair

48:06

coming to a coffee

48:08

shop near you. Yes.

48:10

Who did that? Was

48:12

that what I do, Captain?

48:14

I don't know. It just

48:17

appeared. Just a new walker's

48:19

agent. Just a new

48:21

movie trailer. That was

48:24

an advert. Yeah. So

48:26

had to take an

48:28

outbreak. Everybody grab your

48:31

popcorn and let's find

48:33

out what happened. Pepper

48:35

went for a coffee

48:38

with Dan Walker. Oh

48:40

no, sorry that was

48:42

the wrong one. With

48:44

Dan Walker yesterday. It

48:46

was a coffee with

48:49

a colleague in our coffee

48:51

shop at work. And it

48:53

was lovely. Nice. But

48:56

what happened? I'm

48:58

silent, Pete. Oh good. Whatever

49:00

you buy or rent a

49:02

video, you need to be

49:05

sure of what you're about

49:07

to watch. This story is

49:09

rated 18, as in 18

49:11

minutes of having a coffee

49:14

with down walker before I

49:16

can make my excuses and

49:18

leave. Let's go to Pippa

49:20

to find out what happened.

49:23

Well, I mean, I met him

49:25

in the coffee area. He'd already

49:27

bought me a coffee, which was

49:30

lovely. How did he know what

49:32

kind of coffee you liked? Because

49:34

he messaged me. Because he stalks

49:36

you? A cold one? No. A

49:38

hot latte? Oh, I bet it was.

49:41

Did he put an emoji after that?

49:43

Do you want a coffee? No, I

49:45

don't think he did, actually. How

49:47

many kisses? Yeah, well, comes, he

49:49

sent a load of photos. Oh,

49:51

yeah, what? I've watched. You can't just...

49:54

Hang on. Let's reverse. Is it

49:56

Frank Richard? He just said, what should

49:58

drink pepper? I'm in the queue. Didle

50:00

a dirt, that's it. Wasn't it?

50:02

Didle a dirt? What's that mean?

50:04

So, I went to the coffee

50:07

shop. Yeah. Long story, sure. Yeah,

50:09

yeah. We had a lovely cup

50:11

of coffee. Oh. Were you playing

50:13

Fuzzi? No. No, we had a

50:15

hug. Oh, that last. Just a

50:18

hug's length. Yeah. A minute. There

50:20

your hugs, Jamie. Have. and how

50:22

did you find it generally the

50:24

whole thing? Very comfortable and lovely.

50:26

Why did he say? Why did

50:28

he say that made you so

50:31

upset? We had a few. Oh,

50:33

well you were the talk of

50:35

the town. So it was about

50:37

four different people who stopped and

50:39

then Dan would say to everyone

50:42

we're making up. Right, okay. Which

50:44

they can. And how did you

50:46

find it generally the whole thing?

50:48

Very comfortable and lovely. Very very

50:50

nice chap. Very apologetic. I did.

50:52

quiz him about the photocopier incident.

50:55

And did he admit that he

50:57

hates women? No. No, he doesn't.

50:59

Oh, sorry, not all women, but

51:01

just most women. We established that

51:03

my voice is probably on a

51:06

level that he can't quite hear

51:08

properly. Oh, I'm sorry. How far

51:10

away is the photocopier from your

51:12

desk? Isn't it the same distance

51:14

that you or I now? We

51:16

are now. Right. But he would

51:19

have seen you though. Well, I

51:21

mean, I was sat right there,

51:23

but he did. Right. Sounds to

51:25

me like he's talking a load

51:27

of old rubbish. Right. And I

51:30

had to explain to him where

51:32

I sat in the Radio X

51:34

office, but I did say I'm

51:36

like the Radio X receptionist. You

51:38

can't miss me when you walk

51:40

in. I'm right in front, yeah,

51:43

true. Well, should we hear what

51:45

Dan Walker has to say about

51:47

it? Dan? Oh, hey, Pippa. Dan

51:49

Walker, Dan Walker, here. Just wanted

51:51

to say thanks for the coffee

51:54

date. It was great. I had

51:56

a great time. That trick he

51:58

did with the two eggcups was

52:00

really impressive. I hadn't... to stay

52:02

on there, I don't know. What?

52:04

Anyway, let's do it again sometime.

52:07

Basketball, cactus, unicorn. Oh, that's a

52:09

lovely choice. Well, that's his offair

52:11

voice. Yeah, that's his real voice.

52:13

Yeah, that's how he touched. But

52:15

what was it, but what did

52:18

he say that got you so

52:20

emotional or upset? Oh, were you

52:22

emotional? I didn't get emotional. I

52:24

heard you're, somebody said to me,

52:26

they saw you having coffee. Yes.

52:28

And you look like you're upset.

52:31

Who said that? I can't, it's

52:33

not, it wouldn't be fair. I

52:35

don't remember crying, unless I've got

52:37

a bad memory, I just saw

52:39

me a video of it. Did

52:42

they now? Okay? We don't have

52:44

any, we don't have any audio,

52:46

unfortunately, prefer. But if you, so

52:48

if you just, if you just,

52:50

there you are there, and let's

52:52

have a look, and, oh no,

52:55

you, oh you're, you're crying. Why

52:57

are you, Pippa? You're in... Oh,

52:59

Pippa, you look so upset! And

53:01

that's a genuine video. It's not

53:03

a Snapchat filter with the crying

53:06

face. That look! Oh no! You're

53:08

in pieces! Oh no! Joseph pig!

53:10

No! That's nothing to do with

53:12

me. Is that you, Chris? What?

53:14

This is you and Dan Walker?

53:16

I can't believe he was sneaking

53:19

around because I haven't been that

53:21

upset about it so I can't

53:23

remember why I would have been

53:25

so upset I was crying. But

53:27

it's overwhelming isn't it? It must

53:30

be. You sort of forget how

53:32

you feel about stuff sometimes. Capped

53:34

to spot up. It's overwhelming. I

53:36

mean we're just so, don't look

53:38

at me. Not at all. We

53:40

had a lovely little chat. Yeah.

53:43

He apologized. He was wondering. And

53:45

he said he didn't hear you.

53:47

Oh look, there you are. Look,

53:49

you can actually see. On the

53:51

screen you can see the... Oh

53:54

no. Oh is that a re-reachive

53:56

for a tissue? Yeah, I think

53:58

so. Oh, is that him? Oh,

54:00

James. I must have been telling

54:02

him about the booby mug because

54:04

I did quit him on that

54:07

as well. So I walked out

54:09

of engineering with the booby mug

54:11

in his still ignored. Did you

54:13

even mention the trick awards? Because

54:15

that was the entire point that

54:18

we want to win a trick

54:20

award. Don, it wasn't the entire

54:22

point. Not for Dan, it was

54:24

for us. Did you show him

54:26

that one? So how has it

54:28

been left? Another coffee? Yeah. Well,

54:31

no, they're probably going to move

54:33

into it. Oh, I imagine. Oh,

54:35

maybe a little dirty weekend in

54:37

Brighton. Yeah. We did take a

54:39

couple of photos. Can you share

54:42

them? Down the alleyway, another side

54:44

of the odeon. I looked like

54:46

a competition winner. Right. Oh, I

54:48

saw one of them, actually. You

54:50

look lovely. You'd obviously recovered from

54:52

the trauma of the coffee. Yeah.

54:55

I've stopped crying at that point

54:57

weirdly. Any old scumbag

54:59

can do a podcast. I

55:01

mean standards have really dropped

55:03

actually and then today you

55:05

won't believe this. James Robinson

55:07

has a podcast out. Yeah.

55:09

Yeah. Remember where you were

55:12

when you heard that? Yeah,

55:14

he has slipped doesn't it?

55:16

Yeah. That is a shame.

55:18

It's letting that sink him.

55:20

Yeah, you got to let

55:22

it sink. The man who

55:24

can't pronounce the word radio

55:26

properly is now doing a

55:28

podcast. You're big in the

55:30

podcast game. There's no are

55:32

in the podcast title. Right.

55:34

Oh there is. Is there?

55:36

You know you don't say

55:39

it like properly. Oh there

55:41

is. Brilliant. There you go.

55:43

He doesn't even know what

55:45

his podcast is called. Now

55:47

is it yours or is

55:49

it Chelsea's? It was definitely

55:51

Chelsea. Right. So this is

55:53

Chelsea. James's long, long, long

55:55

suffering hostage. Look you, it's

55:57

Lady on the Platt. and

55:59

I was captive lady in

56:01

the book. They've released a

56:03

podcast episode one is out

56:06

today you can get it

56:08

from wherever you get your

56:10

podcast from. Is it available

56:12

on global player? Oh I

56:14

hope so. The first two did

56:16

you say? We dropped two today.

56:18

Well they dropped two today. You

56:20

dropped two today? Oh I'm sorry

56:22

to hear that. When did you

56:25

drop them? Oh there it is.

56:27

Four a-a-m. Wow. They dropped at

56:29

four a-a-m. Oh, James has a

56:31

lovely relaxing voice. I'll tune in.

56:33

Oh, thank you, Lorraine. That's not

56:36

my number. Does he? Does, does,

56:38

does he? I wouldn't say that.

56:40

I've never heard anyone say that.

56:42

Lorraine loves this. I wouldn't say

56:45

that. She loves your voice. Also

56:47

as well, Chelsea's the Cheap

56:49

Holiday Expert podcast.

56:51

Whose idea was it to

56:54

give it some schnauzy little

56:56

title? Chelsea's and the production

56:58

guys who did it, audio always.

57:00

But, and she trades on Cheap

57:03

Holiday Expert. Yes. Just call

57:05

it that. Well, people wouldn't search

57:07

for that as what they said.

57:09

How did your website do? Pretty

57:12

well. And what's that called?

57:14

Cheap Holiday Expert. Right. Hmm.

57:16

Hmm. And what's the Instagram? Cheap

57:18

holiday expert. Right. Not the exp.

57:20

Okay. A cheap expert, yeah. Let

57:22

me try it. Didn't I suggest that

57:24

she should change her name to the

57:26

cheap holiday expert and you did and

57:29

the rest is history and it's been

57:31

so successful ever since? Cheap. Hello. Yes.

57:33

Do you remember that? You said just

57:35

call yourself an expert? Yeah. Well, should

57:37

we have a little listen to the

57:39

trailer for it? Yes. We're good to

57:41

go, Captain. Yes, clean. Come to Passports,

57:44

please. A brand new podcast dropping

57:46

every Wednesday that helps you hack

57:48

your holidays. My name is Chelsea,

57:50

and I'm joined by my travel

57:53

companion, Pat James. Travel companion. Yeah.

57:55

It's my boyfriend, boyfriend lover. Yeah.

57:57

It's my boyfriend, boyfriend lover. Yeah.

58:00

You are a couple, you're in

58:02

a relationship. You're in your 30s.

58:04

You don't have to go make

58:06

yourself sick when someone says it's

58:08

your boyfriend. You sleep at the

58:10

same bed as seven nights a

58:12

week. Yeah. Right. But no one

58:14

wants that because then you'll own

58:16

it's another like lovely, dofy, podcast.

58:18

Who wants that? Travel partner. There's

58:20

nothing wrong with this. But it

58:22

could imply that you're gay. No

58:24

problem. Quite. Or business partner, you're

58:26

just in business together. Or kidnapper.

58:28

No, that's... I do have a

58:30

problem. Anyway, let's see what James

58:32

says. Yeah, so for those of

58:34

you who don't know, Chelsea is

58:36

the cheap-order experts. You might have

58:38

seen her on tele, maybe, this

58:40

morning maybe? On the radio? See

58:42

me on the radio? See me

58:44

on the radio? No, you'll hear

58:46

you on the radio. BBC, what?

58:48

Cambridge. Well, for big time. I've

58:50

already got it wrong. I've already

58:52

got it wrong. Yeah, that's right.

58:54

It's got a lovely voice. Next,

58:56

you got some followers on social

58:58

media. Just a few, but I'll

59:00

be honest, I do talk about

59:02

holiday hacks and all that kind

59:04

of stuff, but most people are

59:06

following because I do post when

59:08

you're drunk. Why didn't you record

59:10

it in a studio? Why did

59:12

you just record it? That is

59:14

a studio. Good Lord! Not nice,

59:16

Mike. It's like you've recorded it

59:18

in a church. And I do

59:21

not give my permission for those

59:23

to be there. You should do.

59:25

You've got a lot of fans

59:27

of drink James on there. But

59:29

James here is, I mean, what's

59:31

your role in the Holiday Universe?

59:33

Turning up? Yes, you're very good.

59:35

Going on a holiday and not

59:37

knowing anything about it. No. But

59:39

day to day, James is a

59:41

producer. Oh, hold on. Here you

59:43

go, day to day. Hold on.

59:45

All done. We're about to get

59:47

big up here. Yeah, he runs

59:49

the Christmas shirt. Wait for it.

59:51

No. Oh, I might get a

59:53

mention. She might go. In fact,

59:55

it was Chris who suggested that

59:57

I changed my name. Oh, here

59:59

we go. Let's have a listen.

1:00:01

to our big up on James's

1:00:03

podcast. James is a producer on

1:00:05

a radio show so... The Chris

1:00:07

Miles show. So you know you're

1:00:09

used to speaking with a microphone

1:00:11

in front of you and in

1:00:13

fact... Oh she let that go

1:00:15

by quickly didn't she? Chelsea was

1:00:17

going to leave out the Chris

1:00:19

Moils show. Yeah, so you dropped

1:00:21

it in and she just kept

1:00:23

tongue-dongued. No, no, no, I'll tell

1:00:25

you what. Wow, was she like

1:00:27

this? Don't talk about that. Don't

1:00:29

mention his name. Wow, the ungrateful

1:00:31

cow. I'll tell you what we

1:00:33

do. We made her. In episode

1:00:35

one, I talk about his most

1:00:37

show on Radio X. And then

1:00:40

does she just sit there and

1:00:42

go, no, no, no, no, let

1:00:44

me know when you're finished. And

1:00:46

then at the end of that,

1:00:48

and we talked about, I think

1:00:50

I whipped Radio X and I

1:00:52

think I whipped Chris in the

1:00:54

podcast. Uh-huh. I feel like you're

1:00:56

digging a bit of time. But

1:00:58

day to day, James is a

1:01:00

producer on a radio show. So

1:01:02

you know, you're used to speaking

1:01:04

with a microphone. Wow, she really...

1:01:06

She just got a man out

1:01:08

the way. Don't mention his name.

1:01:10

Well, what's the problem with me?

1:01:12

There's no problem you know that.

1:01:14

Just didn't mention me. Look at

1:01:16

his face, the light up! Let's

1:01:18

say good morning to David Coulthard.

1:01:20

Good morning, David. Good morning to

1:01:22

you. The reason it lets up

1:01:24

is because that's one of the

1:01:26

old school engine noises from the

1:01:28

past. In the good old days.

1:01:30

I'm going to be honest, I

1:01:32

love Formula One, but I'm not

1:01:34

a Formula One engine sounding nerds.

1:01:36

That to me is, that's just...

1:01:38

I couldn't tell you what it

1:01:40

is. It's just a fast car.

1:01:44

Such an iconic sound. Is that

1:01:46

the same? That's the same one,

1:01:49

I think, again as well. That's

1:01:51

a V10, right? What's that then?

1:01:53

Jesus, that could be somebody's mark

1:01:55

two escort modified, okay? How about

1:01:57

this one? Zoom, zoom! That's your

1:01:59

drunk buddy phoning you. We've got

1:02:01

this one. Well, we do not

1:02:04

like to know what happens at

1:02:06

home. Exactly right. That one. Well,

1:02:08

they do behind closed doors. So

1:02:10

the Auto Sports and BRDC Young

1:02:12

Driver of the Year awards, it's

1:02:14

happening tonight, it's going to be

1:02:16

announced this evening, the Young Driver

1:02:19

will be announced this evening at

1:02:21

the London, at the Auto Sport

1:02:23

Awards, you can see where the

1:02:25

winner is by following Auto Sport

1:02:27

on Instagram at Auto Sport. Now

1:02:29

I'm fascinated by this and I've

1:02:32

got lots of questions for you.

1:02:34

Have you ever won the Young

1:02:36

Driver Award? I did indeed once

1:02:38

upon a time. I was a

1:02:40

young driver back in 1990. I,

1:02:42

but the great thing is when

1:02:44

I won it. So I was

1:02:47

the first winner of that award.

1:02:49

And you know, the Otterspur magazine

1:02:51

has been the backbone of our

1:02:53

industry. That's, you know, back where

1:02:55

I grew up in Scotland. It

1:02:57

was issued on a Monday, but

1:02:59

it took into Wednesday to get

1:03:02

to me. So, you know, there

1:03:04

was, there wasn't internet and things

1:03:06

like that. So it was the

1:03:08

Bible. of your information. So when

1:03:10

I want it, because it was

1:03:12

the first year, they just basically

1:03:14

gave it to me as a

1:03:17

winning young driver. Nowadays, there's a

1:03:19

very stringent competition, which it's almost

1:03:21

like a race championship in itself

1:03:23

to decide who's going to be

1:03:25

the young driver. So basically what

1:03:27

I'm saying is, it definitely defines

1:03:29

talent more today than it did

1:03:32

back then. Right. So there's four

1:03:34

nominees. The eldest is 18, the

1:03:36

youngest is 16. Now one of

1:03:38

these four, all of these four,

1:03:40

none of these four, could make

1:03:42

it to Formula One. Because the

1:03:45

journey to get to be an

1:03:47

F1 driver, you've got to go

1:03:49

through a lot. There's money involved

1:03:51

as well, isn't it? It's very

1:03:53

difficult to get into a Formula

1:03:55

One car. Yeah, great summary. There

1:03:57

are 20 seats out of... thousands

1:04:00

of, you know, tens of thousands

1:04:02

of hopefuls around the world to

1:04:04

set off and carting. Nowadays, and

1:04:06

I'm experiencing this as a father,

1:04:08

you know, I've got a 16-year-old

1:04:10

son who will enter cars this year.

1:04:13

Right. And, you know, we're talking

1:04:15

hundreds of. in terms of funding

1:04:17

to do your first year. The

1:04:19

triangle or the pyramid, if you

1:04:21

like, of motorsport opportunities is much

1:04:23

bigger, but of course that's driven

1:04:25

up costs as well. So it

1:04:27

is a tough journey, but nobody's

1:04:30

forced into it. There's a passion

1:04:32

for getting into carting in the

1:04:34

same way that anyone might get

1:04:36

into soccer, football, you know, whatever

1:04:38

you we call it nowadays. And

1:04:40

the very best will... be

1:04:42

able to present their skills

1:04:45

to the talent coaches. Well,

1:04:47

these, you know, you watch

1:04:49

Formula One and I constantly

1:04:52

remind myself, you're watching arguably

1:04:54

the best drivers on planet

1:04:57

Earth for that sport and there

1:04:59

is really nothing between them,

1:05:01

nothing between any of the

1:05:03

drivers. It's way for thin,

1:05:05

you know, and when you

1:05:07

look at the qualifying or

1:05:10

whatever and you see... fractions

1:05:12

of a second between drivers

1:05:14

and it just shows you how how

1:05:16

tight it is. So to get there

1:05:18

you've got to be the best of

1:05:20

the best, continue to be the best

1:05:22

of the best. keep being the best

1:05:24

of the best and also be in

1:05:26

the right place at the right time

1:05:28

and also have the finances to get

1:05:30

you there. It's a hell of a

1:05:32

slog isn't it? And I guess that's

1:05:34

why you end up with a kitchen

1:05:36

like yours. Yeah well I wish this

1:05:38

was my kitchen but yeah I was

1:05:40

moderately successful and I would definitely didn't

1:05:42

fall into the category of being the

1:05:44

best of the best but I clearly

1:05:47

was good enough to to enter the

1:05:49

sport given great support from the mainly

1:05:51

British teams. You know we've got so

1:05:53

much to shout about it to shout

1:05:55

about. in the UK. If we were

1:05:57

American, everybody would know how brilliant

1:05:59

we are designing racing cars and

1:06:01

we've had a lot of brilliant

1:06:03

drivers and a number of world

1:06:05

champions but we're British so we

1:06:07

tend to be a bit more

1:06:09

reserved about I know there's only

1:06:11

three of the formal one teams

1:06:13

aren't based in the UK we

1:06:15

are the Silicon Valley of engineering

1:06:17

and design and build of fast

1:06:19

race cars. Are you going to

1:06:22

be at the awards tonight I

1:06:24

guess you are? Yeah I'm looking

1:06:26

forward to it because I get

1:06:28

the... first time to see some

1:06:30

of the young drivers that are

1:06:32

coming up. There's lots of young

1:06:34

talent there and I'm curious to

1:06:36

see who's going to be the

1:06:38

winner tonight and they will do

1:06:40

so in front of the likes

1:06:42

of Christian Horner and you know

1:06:44

various other F-1 team principles. So

1:06:46

famously Lewis Hamilton when he won

1:06:48

it I think eight or nine

1:06:50

years old walked up to Ron

1:06:52

Dennis who ran McLaren at the

1:06:54

time. and asked him for his

1:06:56

autograph and phone number because he

1:06:58

was going to be he was

1:07:00

he wanted to drive from McLaren

1:07:02

fast forward you know 10 years

1:07:04

or wherever it was he was

1:07:06

a formula one driver from McLaren

1:07:08

incredible that is great is such

1:07:10

a lovely thing so for the

1:07:12

it's for the untrained obviously your

1:07:14

formula one does it literally go

1:07:16

down F1 F2 F3 F4 and

1:07:18

then that's that's that's the root

1:07:20

Yeah, we keep it simple in

1:07:22

motor racing. In many ways, in

1:07:25

terms of sports people, we are

1:07:27

the goldfish of the sporting world

1:07:29

because we go around the track

1:07:31

or around the ball and we

1:07:33

go, that was fun and we

1:07:35

do it again and we do

1:07:37

it again and we do it

1:07:39

60 odd times. So we have

1:07:41

Formula One, two, three, four. There

1:07:43

isn't a formula five at the

1:07:45

moment, but they'll probably invent that.

1:07:47

Yeah, probably. One final thing before

1:07:49

I let you go and thanks

1:07:51

for coming on. We got a

1:07:53

lovely text earlier this morning when

1:07:55

I said you're going to be

1:07:57

on the show from Martin. Martin

1:07:59

said, I once broken to David

1:08:01

Coulthard's car at Thruxton Race Circuit

1:08:03

after his girlfriend left with his

1:08:05

car keys. No recollection of that.

1:08:07

He said this was back in

1:08:09

his days in Formula 3. I

1:08:11

remember how shocked he was at

1:08:13

how... quickly and easily a bunch

1:08:15

of semi-drunk mechanics were able to

1:08:17

get into his car. Well I'm

1:08:19

going to question if that's true

1:08:21

because back in form the three

1:08:23

nobody knew me and therefore I

1:08:26

didn't have a girlfriend. Somehow it

1:08:28

became easier to get a girlfriend

1:08:30

when I got to Formula One.

1:08:32

Why is that? I don't know

1:08:34

it is a funny one isn't

1:08:36

it? The Chris Moyle Show podcast.

1:08:38

Let's hear it one more time

1:08:40

Chelsea who absolutely hates any mention

1:08:42

of my name. anything about it.

1:08:44

Nope. But day to day James

1:08:46

is a producer on a radio

1:08:48

show. So Chris Boyle show. So

1:08:50

you know you're used to speaking

1:08:52

with a microphone. She absolutely ignores

1:08:54

it. She just she's waving at

1:08:56

him going, that's the gratitude that

1:08:58

I get. I know. Terrible. Very

1:09:00

grateful. You know before I came

1:09:02

along and gave them my input.

1:09:04

Yeah. She was just sitting there,

1:09:06

one-handedly, one-handedly, write it typing about

1:09:08

holidays because she's handcuffed to the

1:09:10

radiator. She's not handcuffed then. And

1:09:12

I say, why don't you change

1:09:14

your name? You know, you're an

1:09:16

expert in this field. Call yourself

1:09:18

an expert. Next thing is she's

1:09:20

on this morning, she's on BBC

1:09:22

News. They've now got a podcast

1:09:24

with a really weird cover photo.

1:09:26

James has pushed her out of

1:09:29

the way so he can be

1:09:31

right in the very front of

1:09:33

it despite the fact really she's

1:09:35

the expert in all of this.

1:09:37

This is what I took from

1:09:39

the cover of this. I've got

1:09:41

it on the screen. Here it

1:09:43

is. It very much yes you're

1:09:45

you're bigger than Chelsea in this

1:09:47

James. Yeah. Aren't you? You're sort

1:09:49

of front and centre? His head

1:09:51

is twice the size of Chelsea's

1:09:53

head. It is. Why is my

1:09:55

head so big? I don't know.

1:09:57

That's my film hosting a passport.

1:09:59

No, they are boxing gloves. Yeah.

1:10:01

Or, I'm going to say it,

1:10:03

Chelsea's weird boobs. It looks like

1:10:05

Chelsea's got a really... small right

1:10:07

hand and she's putting a tight,

1:10:09

she's got a boxing glove on,

1:10:11

tiny little thumb, tiny little thumb,

1:10:13

and then he's got his boxing

1:10:15

glove on. Yeah. What's that about?

1:10:17

Oh, it's one of each thumb,

1:10:19

is it? My thumb and her

1:10:21

thumb, holding a passport as we

1:10:23

hand them over. Why do you

1:10:25

have red thumbs? No, real idea,

1:10:27

no. She looks really happy and

1:10:29

tidy and that. You look terrified.

1:10:32

Wouldn't you just chop that out

1:10:34

though? Too many of the two,

1:10:36

not those, look, they're not thumbs!

1:10:38

They're thumbs! Well what's with a

1:10:40

tiny tiny tiny tiny thumb on

1:10:42

top of a thumb? She's got

1:10:44

a thumb thumb thumb. Is that

1:10:46

just a thumb knuckle? Is that

1:10:48

just a, yeah? That there? Yeah.

1:10:50

It's just a knuckle, isn't it?

1:10:52

It's like two little boxing gloves.

1:10:54

Hmm. And it's

1:10:56

Passports, please, from Cheap Holiday Expert.

1:10:58

She's the Cheap Holiday Expert. Who's

1:11:01

right in the front? Move me!

1:11:03

It's me, James. And you look

1:11:05

drunk. You do look drunk. Look

1:11:08

a bit confused. That's my one

1:11:10

edition. And here's the scary thing

1:11:12

as well. They've probably touched that

1:11:14

picture up as well of Jopes.

1:11:17

Oh, and I've spotted something else,

1:11:19

James. You're a child. You're a

1:11:21

child. Have you spotted this? Yeah,

1:11:23

my one edition. Yeah, is that

1:11:26

your edition? So there's a number

1:11:28

on there? From cheap holiday expert.

1:11:30

Don't say it. Don't say it.

1:11:32

If anybody wants to see it.

1:11:35

If you were eight years old

1:11:37

and had access to mathematical equipment,

1:11:39

you'd find it very funny. Ladies

1:11:43

and gentlemen, David Bedell and Daniel Gillespie

1:11:45

Salz are here. Hooray, round of course.

1:11:48

Let me go. So, we were just

1:11:50

talking about the fact that we both

1:11:52

wear glasses some of the time. I

1:11:54

think my face looks weird without glasses,

1:11:56

so even if I had my eyes

1:11:59

done, I still wear glasses. But basically,

1:12:01

we both look now like Santa Claus.

1:12:03

Yeah, yeah, but that's what we look

1:12:05

like. And Dan Gillespie Salz, all the

1:12:08

surnames, nice to see you. Thank you,

1:12:10

I can't grow a beard. It's pretty,

1:12:12

well it's patchy, it's right. You suit

1:12:14

it without. Oh, thank you. You've got

1:12:17

that lovely clean, come look. You look

1:12:19

like a nice clean gentleman. Yeah, whereas,

1:12:21

whereas, you look like a scruffy Roman.

1:12:23

Well, I can't help it. You look

1:12:25

like a vagrant and Dan is like

1:12:28

a sparks tribute. act. There you go.

1:12:30

That's not a compliment for either

1:12:32

of us, is it? Yeah. The

1:12:34

difference means is welcome to the

1:12:36

show. I think I look like

1:12:38

if things have gone wrong for

1:12:41

Einstein. First of all how did

1:12:43

you how do you know each

1:12:45

other? Well through our show we

1:12:47

were brought together. Yeah. Oh so

1:12:49

you've not been friends before? No

1:12:51

we didn't know each other beforehand.

1:12:53

I was a fan. We knew

1:12:55

of each other yeah, yeah, it

1:12:58

doesn't, he hasn't replied, they hasn't,

1:13:00

massive fans. What were you, which

1:13:02

of David's work were you a

1:13:04

fan the most? There's a song?

1:13:06

Well, yeah, right, he's gone for

1:13:08

the song. Right, okay. There is

1:13:10

a song. I was a fan

1:13:13

of his songs as well, I

1:13:15

just made the song with that.

1:13:17

So there you go, you bought

1:13:19

together through music. Yeah, that's lovely.

1:13:21

being turned into a musical by

1:13:23

the pair of you, which is

1:13:25

so exciting. I think we talked

1:13:28

before, I think you said you

1:13:30

wanted it to be a musical. Yeah.

1:13:32

And we've talked about how it is...

1:13:34

It's so difficult to get something to actually be

1:13:36

a real musical where people can get tickets and

1:13:38

go and see it. It's a long process. How

1:13:40

long has this taken? About three years? About three

1:13:42

years? About three years, which was actually quite quick.

1:13:45

Yeah. Really in this business. Yeah. Yeah. So I

1:13:47

should probably say, even though we have talked about

1:13:49

all this show before, yeah, the parent agency is

1:13:51

one of my kids' books. I think I always

1:13:53

had a thought of it being on its feet,

1:13:55

and there being songs being on its songs in

1:13:57

it, and there being songs in it songs in

1:13:59

it. appeared and wrote some brilliant music

1:14:02

so that that really helped. But

1:14:04

you've written the lyrics. Yeah well

1:14:06

I wrote the lyrics to be

1:14:08

within Dan contributed to the lyrics

1:14:10

and so it's all a collaboration.

1:14:12

It's a great thing. Now you've

1:14:14

this is not your first musical.

1:14:16

No. You've done all right in

1:14:18

the musical genre. Locked out. Yeah,

1:14:20

you really have. Dan obviously did

1:14:22

the music for everybody's talking about

1:14:24

Jamie. Yeah, that didn't all right,

1:14:26

didn't it actually, to be fair?

1:14:28

It's done all right. That went

1:14:30

to Broadway. Did it get to

1:14:32

Broadway? No, never to Broadway. We're

1:14:34

in Los Angeles, but we had

1:14:36

COVID and stuff, so... Oh yeah,

1:14:38

yeah, it was about timing for

1:14:40

us, but... It's still kind of,

1:14:42

it's in different territories. It's one

1:14:44

of those shows that I sometimes

1:14:46

realise is like, you know, someone

1:14:48

suddenly sends me an email from

1:14:50

Mexico or somewhere and I'm like,

1:14:52

oh, it's there. Brazil and it's

1:14:54

a strange thing because it's so

1:14:56

Sheffield. Yeah, set in Sheffield, built

1:14:58

and Sheffield, everyone does it Sheffield,

1:15:00

but they're still doing it, but

1:15:02

they're doing it in Japanese as

1:15:04

well, you know, and you should

1:15:06

think, how does that work? But

1:15:08

apparently it does, so, yeah, and

1:15:10

I haven't seen it in any

1:15:12

other languages except for Swedish. Oh,

1:15:14

did you go and see, sorry,

1:15:16

these freshers? Or Malmo, and that

1:15:18

was weird. But yes, great, I

1:15:20

mean, I can't understand the ball

1:15:22

rolling first. thought there was a

1:15:24

musical in the book which I

1:15:26

agreed with. They said, do you

1:15:28

think this could be a musical?

1:15:30

And I said, yeah, but obviously

1:15:32

we need to find someone brilliant

1:15:34

to write the music. And at

1:15:36

that point, there was damn. And

1:15:38

then I rewrote the script. And

1:15:40

then the key thing with the

1:15:42

musical that I think is it's

1:15:45

got to feel like the points

1:15:47

at which characters burst into song.

1:15:49

And in the musical, you find

1:15:51

those beats where either comically or

1:15:53

dramatically or poignantly or whatever, the

1:15:55

thing you've got to do is

1:15:57

sing. and dance. And that is

1:15:59

something I love about musicals. I've

1:16:01

actually also done on musical before.

1:16:03

You didn't mention that. The Infidel,

1:16:05

which I was a strait for

1:16:07

theatre. All right, it wasn't a

1:16:09

success. as Jamie. But nonetheless, what

1:16:11

I... He made it to the

1:16:13

west end of Stratford. Yeah, exactly.

1:16:15

Are you nervous about it? Yeah,

1:16:17

a bit, but I'm also really

1:16:19

looking forward to seeing it. Yeah.

1:16:21

We should say it's on in

1:16:23

Chester. It's at the Story House

1:16:25

in Chester. I know how interview

1:16:27

people, Jesus. I think this happens

1:16:29

every time, Chris. A new musical

1:16:31

adaptation of David McNeil's best-selling book

1:16:33

in the parent agency will premiere

1:16:35

at Story House Chester in February.

1:16:37

Well, this is exciting. This is

1:16:39

really, really excited. So do you

1:16:41

not, like, it's, I'm fascinated by

1:16:43

this. Did you have enough confidence

1:16:45

though? If I was going into

1:16:47

this, if I was going into

1:16:49

this, if this is me, I'd

1:16:51

written the book and then somebody

1:16:53

comes along and says, let's make

1:16:55

a thing out of it, I'd

1:16:57

be like, yeah, but there's so

1:16:59

much of that world where you're

1:17:01

like, I don't know exactly how

1:17:03

you do that. Right. I think

1:17:05

I was confident in the story

1:17:07

of the parent agency and then

1:17:09

and then it is to do

1:17:11

with Dan. Yeah. To do with

1:17:13

Dan and I mean actually really

1:17:15

within sitting in Dan Studio in

1:17:17

Hackney and here's some words within

1:17:19

a very short amount of time

1:17:21

he's written the most beautiful melody.

1:17:23

He can do that. He's got

1:17:25

he's really got an ear. I

1:17:28

tell you I don't know I

1:17:30

don't if anyone wants to sign

1:17:32

him but I like. really beautiful

1:17:34

melodies that you can immediately hear

1:17:36

in your head and dance written

1:17:38

a lot of them. Sorry if

1:17:40

I'm just praising you. Thank you

1:17:42

David. It is about a team

1:17:44

and it's about a kind of

1:17:46

collaboration and there's a kind of

1:17:48

like more than the sum of

1:17:50

its parts. do you with how

1:17:52

they come together right yeah so

1:17:54

you need David who's funny and

1:17:56

and and writes you know a

1:17:58

really gripping story that but then

1:18:00

you need the music to accompany

1:18:02

that but also it needs to

1:18:04

kind of somehow elevate it as

1:18:06

well yeah really there's a lot

1:18:08

of trust isn't there's a lot

1:18:10

of trust that together you create

1:18:12

this alchemy and this thing that

1:18:14

happens so we're like trusting that

1:18:16

we all are on the same

1:18:18

page enough to tell this story

1:18:20

in the most thrilling way, you

1:18:22

know, and just put all our

1:18:24

best craft into it. That's the

1:18:26

plan. It's very exciting. I think

1:18:28

it's brilliant. There's a one for

1:18:30

you, Dan. Did you ever hear

1:18:32

our parody songs of the, of

1:18:34

a couple of feeling tracks? Actually,

1:18:36

I did. Oh, and you've still

1:18:38

turned up today. I've still turned

1:18:40

up, I'm slightly better about it,

1:18:42

but you know, I did hear

1:18:44

them, yeah, absolutely. Word, do you

1:18:46

ever, I think you've got headphones,

1:18:48

do you want to hear them?

1:18:50

Yeah, come on, come on there.

1:18:52

So I don't know if you

1:18:54

know the song by the feeling

1:18:56

I love it when you call.

1:18:58

That's me on the vocalist. That's

1:19:00

fantastic. What are you bitter about?

1:19:02

Actually, that's better than I remember.

1:19:04

And then there was this beautiful

1:19:06

song by the feeling. Rosay. And

1:19:08

we'd send that into, uh, Josay

1:19:10

Marino's song. with

1:19:16

Dominic burn. That one I don't

1:19:18

remember. Choise was huge. Anyway, as

1:19:20

a Chelsea was huge. Anyway, as

1:19:22

a Chelsea, I don't remember it

1:19:25

ever taking off in the ground.

1:19:27

They didn't have the range. That's

1:19:29

what it was. They didn't have

1:19:31

the range. That's what it was.

1:19:33

They didn't have the range. Well

1:19:36

listen, I'm very excited. Everybody go

1:19:38

and get tickets. Where do people

1:19:40

get tickets from? The internet. Brilliant.

1:19:42

That's the internet. Well I understand

1:19:44

they want to travel from Glasgow

1:19:47

to Chester just to buy the

1:19:49

tickets. A Chester story house. I

1:19:51

mean they can do that too.

1:19:53

God you ungrateful get. I've done

1:19:55

such a good job of selling

1:19:58

this. And you're not even meeting

1:20:00

me. halfway. Where can people

1:20:02

get tickets? The internet,

1:20:04

Chris. Unless people want

1:20:06

to drive all the

1:20:08

way at the box

1:20:11

office. You're moron. My

1:20:13

house. They can come

1:20:15

to my house. I'll

1:20:17

tout them. I'll give out

1:20:19

your address. And David

1:20:21

lives at number

1:20:23

one, London. No,

1:20:26

hi Dom, glad you enjoyed your booby

1:20:28

slippers last week, you're right Pip. I

1:20:30

wasn't expecting to be writing back so

1:20:32

soon, but this time it's for some

1:20:34

leather. I heard you mentioning jerkins. Oh

1:20:36

my goodness. Yes, if you miss this,

1:20:39

I used to wear a leather jerkin.

1:20:41

It sounds like the name of that

1:20:43

place in the Soo that we were

1:20:45

just talking about. Mrs Whippy. I've never

1:20:47

heard of a jerk. Yeah, so it's

1:20:49

a cool version of a waistcoat when

1:20:52

waistcoats were cool, when we were about

1:20:54

1819. You look like you're reenacting a

1:20:56

battle when you wear one? Yeah, and

1:20:58

I wasn't. I'm not into all that.

1:21:00

I was just into looking cool. Sex

1:21:02

people. Then they are sex people in.

1:21:04

Next thing, next thing I know, I'm

1:21:06

getting jerking adverts because I'm googling jerking.

1:21:08

So here's one from eBay that has

1:21:10

your name all over it. Leather up,

1:21:13

I've got you a jerking. Oh, they've

1:21:15

sent one in. Longtime listener, fourth time

1:21:17

writer, yours, your secret admirer. Oh, still

1:21:19

no name. Still don't know who it is.

1:21:21

If it's that loop, I think

1:21:23

it's like, I don't know. Right,

1:21:25

do you want to see the

1:21:27

gem? 100% It smells, that's what

1:21:30

we know. Now to take your

1:21:32

overshot off. It's a proper one.

1:21:34

Take your overshot off. Right, I'm

1:21:36

going to look away. Everyone look

1:21:39

away. I look away because you'll

1:21:41

ruin the surprise. Okay, I'm looking

1:21:43

away now. I'm looking out the

1:21:46

window into Leicester Square. Oh, I

1:21:48

can smell you jerking. Do you

1:21:50

know what? Oh, don't say that,

1:21:52

James, that sounds wrong. Have you

1:21:54

taken your shirt off yet? Shirts

1:21:56

off, jerking on. This is going

1:21:58

to be lovely. I don't know.

1:22:01

Get ready, hang on, right. Trying

1:22:03

to peek. I'm trying to, it's

1:22:05

got a weird zip. Leave it

1:22:07

open. Okay guys in three, two,

1:22:09

one, jerking mass. Wow! Do you

1:22:12

know what, it's like a zipped,

1:22:14

a zipped, zipped waistcoat, but sleeveless.

1:22:16

It's got a different back. It's

1:22:18

a back, like see-through. Yeah, mine

1:22:21

wasn't, mine was. It's a mesh

1:22:23

back. So mine was like this,

1:22:25

but it was dark brown and

1:22:27

the back was dark brown. It's

1:22:29

kind of like a cool tabard.

1:22:32

Do you know what? A helmet

1:22:34

and a sword. Those leather trousers

1:22:36

that we bought you. The flammable

1:22:38

ones. Fight you. The leather trousers,

1:22:40

yeah. Yeah, they would look good.

1:22:43

And it's comfy. It's comfy. Now,

1:22:45

would you wear that? Very, not

1:22:47

now, necessarily. It's very, not now,

1:22:49

necessarily. It's very, not now, necessarily.

1:22:51

It's very strong smelling. That's the

1:22:54

one thing I'd say. By the

1:22:56

way, creepy lukes being on and

1:22:58

livid that we've just done. Is

1:23:00

it not him, anything underneath underneath

1:23:03

it? Yeah, I'm burkin! But he

1:23:05

comes in, sits in his chair,

1:23:07

he moves the microphone and puts

1:23:09

his headphones on straight away because

1:23:11

he's back in a radio studio

1:23:14

and that's where he... it's just

1:23:16

old second nature to me. It's

1:23:18

my comfy place. But what you

1:23:20

were saying earlier on about the

1:23:22

faders, it's true. I still have

1:23:25

a recurring... nightmare in which, and

1:23:27

you did it to me for

1:23:29

real, and put in charge of

1:23:31

a radio show and I don't

1:23:34

know how to use the desk.

1:23:36

You imagine if we put James

1:23:38

May, I put him in the

1:23:40

chair and then we all left

1:23:42

the studio. He would do this.

1:23:45

Right. No, he'd dismantle it. He

1:23:47

would take it apart. He'd plug

1:23:49

his pub. Has he still got

1:23:51

the pub? I don't know. Yes,

1:23:53

because I went there. I've been

1:23:56

to his, but I haven't yet

1:23:58

been to Jeremy's. I'm always asked.

1:24:00

So you went to James May's

1:24:02

pub? Did you have to buy

1:24:05

a drink? Yeah. I'd pay for

1:24:07

him. That's terrible, Richard. I know.

1:24:09

Shock is awful. Now, if I

1:24:11

owned a pub, a new cave?

1:24:13

I don't think you should. I'm

1:24:16

just going to... No, no, no.

1:24:18

Bad idea. No, I know it

1:24:20

is. Why don't we buy a

1:24:22

pop together? That's a really terrible

1:24:24

idea. But you never been to,

1:24:27

you're not being to Jeremy's. No,

1:24:29

I haven't. I want to go

1:24:31

and get banned. Right, okay. Yes,

1:24:33

good. But so I've got to

1:24:35

summon the energy to do that.

1:24:38

I'll help you if you want.

1:24:40

I don't think it'll be that

1:24:42

difficult. Right. I think he's already

1:24:44

banned. Oh, I can't work that

1:24:47

out. Wait a minute, now we're

1:24:49

advertising Jeremy's. Oh, sorry, yeah, yeah,

1:24:51

sorry, really. No I don't have

1:24:53

one. Both of those have got

1:24:55

things to advertise. When Jeremy comes

1:24:58

on the show all we do

1:25:00

is talk about your podcast. I'm

1:25:02

pretty confident that you don't. Who

1:25:04

are we now with Isie and

1:25:06

Richard Hammond podcast? So essentially you've

1:25:09

chosen to do a podcast on

1:25:11

a subject that let's be honest

1:25:13

she's really not that fussed about.

1:25:15

You're saying this because she's not,

1:25:18

hey you've noticed there's a time

1:25:20

in the sort of space. If

1:25:22

she cared about the podcast she'd

1:25:24

be here, she'd be here. then

1:25:26

I'm away next week and next

1:25:29

week is the week when we

1:25:31

would be out saying yes we

1:25:33

got a new podcast and I'm

1:25:35

away. Where is she right now?

1:25:37

She's 24, she's asleep. I did

1:25:40

text her. I'm going on the

1:25:42

radio. Are they to reply? No,

1:25:44

no. I've left my phone on

1:25:46

which I would never normally do.

1:25:49

Give me a call when you're

1:25:51

up. I'm on the radio. Yeah,

1:25:53

that phone is not going to

1:25:55

regular. Is it? Not going to

1:25:57

rain. No. So tell if people

1:26:00

haven't heard it yet, tell everybody

1:26:02

nice and simply. Well, you just

1:26:04

did it. Better than I've ever

1:26:06

done. Well, no. But it's a

1:26:08

slightly service. Okay. I wanted to

1:26:11

do a service service. I wanted

1:26:13

to do a podcast. in the

1:26:15

male mental health space. That's bad

1:26:17

isn't it? That's terrible. Self-discovery and

1:26:19

personal growth. That's actually worse. Okay.

1:26:22

But in that kind of area,

1:26:24

because I was very publicly injured

1:26:26

in the car, I was damaged.

1:26:28

That gives me permission to step

1:26:31

away. We all know it was

1:26:33

a sudden and it was all

1:26:35

faked. Yeah. CGI. It gives me

1:26:37

permission to step into that area

1:26:39

and then to address the themes

1:26:42

that start affecting us, particularly in

1:26:44

middle age as blokes. And... Isy,

1:26:46

my daughter, became involved in the

1:26:48

production of it because she's interested

1:26:50

in it. And then it became

1:26:53

clearer, actually, it's better having her

1:26:55

in the studio with me because

1:26:57

it stops it being an echo

1:26:59

chamber of middle-age men moaning about

1:27:02

the price of things in our

1:27:04

policeman. It stops that. And because

1:27:06

she's my daughter, she's not afraid

1:27:08

to do that. She bursts the

1:27:10

bubble. So that's why she's on

1:27:13

it with me. So her secret

1:27:15

role is early. She's just a

1:27:17

real UN. Definitely, yes. But it's

1:27:19

the kind of things that affect

1:27:21

all of us in midlife. Midlife

1:27:24

being the sort of big flabby

1:27:26

bit in the middle of your

1:27:28

life. Right. It's the main chunk

1:27:30

in it really. Yeah. So we

1:27:32

also talk about loss. We did

1:27:35

the bonus episode yesterday talking to

1:27:37

Dr. T. Dr. Taraka who's just

1:27:39

amazing. The most positive human being.

1:27:41

It's brilliant. And Ezy and I

1:27:44

were chatting with him because we,

1:27:46

well I lost my father end

1:27:48

of last year. Sorry. It happens

1:27:50

when he was perfectly content with

1:27:52

it and handled it absolutely beautifully.

1:27:55

So that's his grandfather. And we

1:27:57

were talking to Dr. T and

1:27:59

he said the most fabulous thing,

1:28:01

and I love it when these

1:28:03

little bits come up, when you're

1:28:06

talking to experts on this show,

1:28:08

not just, you know, celebs. And

1:28:10

he was saying, your brain establishes

1:28:12

these circuits, you know, connections

1:28:14

with people. And they're still

1:28:16

there. That connection is still

1:28:19

there. Sure. I was saying that explains

1:28:21

why sometimes if I'm driving along in

1:28:23

my car now, it'll suddenly hit me

1:28:25

up and a small thing will happen.

1:28:28

This is a silly little thing. Doesn't

1:28:30

matter a song on the radio, whatever.

1:28:32

Says something. And my brain will go,

1:28:34

oh, I'll tell. Yeah, but and when

1:28:36

he said that circuit is still there,

1:28:39

because it is a physiological thing, it's

1:28:41

actually made a connection in your brain.

1:28:43

Yeah, and I found that really, really

1:28:45

comforting. Yeah, yeah. You said that in

1:28:47

a sarcastic way. No, I did. No,

1:28:50

you did. No, I didn't. No, you

1:28:52

totally did. No, you totally did. No,

1:28:54

I thought you did. This is radio.

1:28:56

I didn't know that it's a physical...

1:28:59

It's literally a physical connection that you've

1:29:01

got there. Wow! If you are

1:29:03

still listening and it's frankly a

1:29:05

miracle if you are. We're talking

1:29:07

about brains and stuff. Yeah. I'm

1:29:09

going to ask you a question that

1:29:11

I know Dominic and love to

1:29:13

ask you. Come on. Because Dominico

1:29:15

was quote you on this and

1:29:17

says, since you had the accident,

1:29:19

you can't daydream. What? Is that true?

1:29:22

This is what I read for

1:29:24

years. Sure, you said this in

1:29:26

an interview that you found you

1:29:28

found it either very difficult or you

1:29:30

can't physically daydream. Was that true or

1:29:32

not? Is that true? Come on, tell

1:29:34

me I'm barking up the right tree-ish.

1:29:37

I have no memory of saying that.

1:29:39

Oh, really? Oh, really? No. I've heard

1:29:41

Dom tell the story a million times.

1:29:44

In what context? You said so. Have

1:29:46

you had cause to say, oh and

1:29:48

by the way Richard Hammond that little

1:29:50

feller off the car show used to

1:29:53

be. So after your accident, after your

1:29:55

accident, I read an interview where you

1:29:57

said after however many months who was...

1:30:00

six months or a year afterwards. The

1:30:02

only thing I've been really left with

1:30:04

is the fact I look at me

1:30:06

as I'm an idiot is that I

1:30:09

can't I can't daydream anymore. I did

1:30:11

I did spout quite a lot of

1:30:13

crap at that point because I was

1:30:15

I was still recovering so I might

1:30:18

have said I can't fly either. I

1:30:20

don't entirely remember saying that. And you

1:30:22

can daydream if you want to. Do

1:30:24

you want me to now? Well you

1:30:27

can do if you can do it.

1:30:29

You're doing about being somewhere else. I

1:30:31

have been all along. You're saying about

1:30:33

you as well that you can't reach

1:30:36

the top shelf at news like that's

1:30:38

not since any accident. That's been a

1:30:40

constant. You're doing a trek for charity.

1:30:42

Yeah. Well it's it's for the Special

1:30:45

Forces Club benevolent fund. I sort of

1:30:47

got roped into this. I haven't done

1:30:49

the whole trek. They are recreating the

1:30:51

trek that in 1917, Lawrence of Arabia

1:30:54

did, across Saudi and Jordan, to get

1:30:56

to Akbar. Never been done since on

1:30:58

Campbells. And a bunch of these total

1:31:01

heroes from the Special Forces Club said,

1:31:03

I know, let's do that. So what

1:31:05

I thought, I said, lads, I'd love

1:31:07

to, but you're all like, you know,

1:31:10

they're all ex forces. Right, I'm not.

1:31:12

Why don't I come in at the

1:31:14

end at the end. Take you. Because

1:31:16

then they're going into Alabama's going to

1:31:19

be like, you know, you did it.

1:31:21

That's kind of the bit I want

1:31:23

to be in. How much before the

1:31:25

end an hour? Yeah, maybe. I'll be

1:31:28

next week. Well, now, you see, I'm

1:31:30

supposed to be in a support vehicle,

1:31:32

vehicle, driving a landrover. Oh, that's different.

1:31:34

Oh, that's different. Wait a minute. Wait

1:31:37

a minute. Wait a minute. impish little

1:31:39

devils those chaps and they're going to

1:31:41

stick me on a camel. Of course

1:31:43

they're going to do it. So they're

1:31:46

going to complete it. They're doing it

1:31:48

to raise money for the Special Forces

1:31:50

Club benevolent fun. There you are and

1:31:52

then you can donate there so you

1:31:55

can give some money to Rich Tam

1:31:57

and sitting in an air conditioning. brand

1:31:59

new. Wait a minute! No, I'm camping.

1:32:02

And in the day, because I've... When

1:32:04

you say you're camping, are you just

1:32:06

putting the seats back in the defender,

1:32:08

getting a do-veying a couple of pillars?

1:32:11

Have a lovely time. They'll love you

1:32:13

for it. It's the desert. Offair, I'll

1:32:15

tell you about the quote. You are

1:32:17

quoted in the evening standard saying, there

1:32:20

was a point where I couldn't daydream.

1:32:22

Have you spent all of that to

1:32:24

us? Oh my God. And that's what

1:32:26

I'll leave it. Did you just say

1:32:29

off there? Where? We did it here.

1:32:31

Who are we now? The Richard Hammond,

1:32:33

brilliant new podcast with Richard and his

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