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It's not the climate

1:19

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1:21

quiz climate quiz. World Service

1:23

BBC world service host, Greyer

1:26

Jackson! Hello, we're much our teams

1:28

Thank to much. you the

1:30

test, going to be putting our teams

1:32

to the test much like we're testing the

1:35

limits of our planet three degrees of... are

1:46

the the sparks, okay. Jordan presents the presents the

1:49

climate question with me as regular

1:51

listeners will know and Rose been on

1:53

the programme on the times now. I

1:55

mean we're not counting probably more,

1:57

I'm a friend of the show.

1:59

more. from the energy. for Growth Hub and

2:01

competing against them we have team

2:03

Akshat Rati and Jackie Wakefield. Yes.

2:06

Team name? We've got our team

2:08

name is very creative it's called

2:10

Awak. Explain it. Well there is

2:13

a climate emergency and you have

2:15

to be awake to that fact.

2:17

So Akshat, friend of the show,

2:20

is a senior climate reporter for

2:22

Bloomberg and Jackie is a climate

2:24

disinformation expert at the BBC. Are

2:27

you feeling confident that you can

2:29

take these guys down? Are you

2:31

here to win? Well I'm just

2:34

here to tip part. I hope

2:36

everybody has a good time. I

2:38

would have a good time and

2:40

we want the planet more importantly

2:43

to win. Yeah. Oh. Right, let

2:45

the games begin. This round is

2:47

called Just a Minute. You will

2:50

each have just a minute to

2:52

talk about a given topic. But

2:54

unlike a politician answering a climate

2:57

question, you must not deviate, hesitate

2:59

or repeat yourself. If you do,

3:01

and your opponents notice, they will

3:04

be able to steal the topic

3:06

away from you by blowing their

3:08

whistle. Someone give me a blow.

3:11

Beautiful, thank you race. They will

3:14

then steal away the topic and

3:16

if they complete the whole 60

3:19

seconds, the remaining amount, they will

3:21

win the point. So just to

3:23

be clear, whoever is still talking

3:26

when the minute is complete wins

3:28

the round. Happy? Yeah, as happy

3:30

as you can be. All right,

3:33

action. Come on. Team awake, I

3:35

hope you are awake, you're the

3:37

first. And your topic is... positive

3:40

climate stories from 2024. Off you

3:42

go. Oh, there are so many

3:44

of those. So the amount of

3:47

money that is going into clean

3:49

energy versus fossil fuels is now

3:51

two to one that happened in

3:54

2024, which is quite a big

3:56

deal, right? In the number of

3:58

solutions that you need to deploy,

4:01

you have to deploy a lot

4:03

of clean energy, but the other...

4:05

other things that you need to

4:08

do is also do carbon capture.

4:10

Carbon capture investments have reached a

4:12

record level in 2024. I know

4:15

it's a controversial topic and not

4:17

everybody likes carbon capture, but that's

4:20

happening. The other solution that again

4:22

is quite controversial. He also said

4:24

so and carbon capture at least

4:27

twice there as well. I don't

4:29

repeat words. I mean, that's an

4:31

argument. Is nuclear power, nuclear power

4:34

in Austin. No. You take up

4:36

the nuclear power. Also, you're so

4:38

good, I was mesmerizing. It was

4:41

nice good news. Is it over?

4:43

So you've got 25 seconds. You

4:45

left. No, no, no, no, no.

4:48

Jordan. Yeah. Blue that whistles are

4:50

therefore Jordan from Team Spark is

4:52

on positive climate stories in 2024.

4:55

Off you go. Looking at what

4:57

China's doing is very interesting because

4:59

obviously it's one of the world's

5:02

largest car markets, cars as we

5:04

know are one of the biggest

5:06

problems that we have in terms

5:09

of transport emissions and so it's

5:11

wonderful to see vehicles slowly moving

5:13

away within the transition. The green

5:16

solutions that we have been... on

5:18

the clock off the air. Nuclear

5:21

is also controversial and this year

5:23

is the first year when the

5:25

goal to triple nuclear energy came

5:28

to force the first small modular

5:30

nuclear reactor is going to be

5:32

built in China. Well done action!

5:35

You have won a team awake

5:37

a point. Very good. Developments in

5:39

renewable energies. Off you go. So

5:42

esteemed listeners of this podcast are

5:44

good afternoon to you or good

5:46

morning wherever you are in the

5:49

world. There's an other. No! No!

5:51

I think that's a bit mean.

5:53

That is mean. Rose. Incorrect interruption.

5:56

Continue please. Where was I? I

5:58

was sending warm greetings to listeners

6:00

of this podcast all over the

6:03

world. I hear we have listeners

6:05

in countries like Kenya, Senegal, South

6:07

Africa, United Kingdom. Is that relevant?

6:10

I'm going to agree, deviation. You've

6:12

taken the point, Jackie. I mean

6:14

a whole 15 seconds. I mean

6:17

a whole 15 seconds. I think

6:19

that's a little bit cheeky. I'm

6:22

a Jackie. Hello to every other

6:24

country. Could you remind me of

6:26

the problem? Development in renewable energies.

6:29

Off you go Jackie. 45 seconds.

6:31

So there have been many developments

6:33

in renewable... It's a correct interruption.

6:36

I'm going to give it back

6:38

to you, Rose. No more talking

6:40

about countries and welcome to the

6:43

program, all right. 40 seconds left

6:45

on the clock, off you go.

6:47

Okay, so this was a hot

6:50

year in renewable energy technology, so

6:52

notably everyone is really excited about

6:54

fusion energy. People are talking about

6:57

recreating. Correct. I'm sorry Rose. It's

6:59

over to you so. Oh my

7:01

goodness. You act like that. You're

7:04

saying ruthless. You too. I'm enjoying

7:06

it. Oh, I'm sorry. Actually, you

7:08

have, there's just two seconds left

7:11

on the clock off you go.

7:13

Well, solar energy has been setting

7:15

record after record after record and

7:18

this year is going to be.

7:20

repetition. Wow, this round is brutal.

7:23

Back to Euros. 26 seconds on

7:25

the clock. Off you go. I

7:27

was just talking earlier about solar

7:30

energy. Um, ah. You take the

7:32

whistle. You play the whistle. You

7:34

get it. I'm going to keep

7:37

going. Nobody with the whistle. I'm

7:39

going to keep going. Nobody with

7:41

the whistle. Oh, did you both?

7:44

Oh, you did you. Oh, you

7:46

did. Oh, taking this. Okay. Off

7:48

you go. Actually. 21 seconds. So,

7:51

solar energy has said record. Year.

7:53

and we have to... Oh no!

7:55

This is not going to work

7:58

if every work. Back to me

8:00

and... And 16 seconds on the

8:02

clock grows off you guys. So

8:05

we're currently seeing a solar revolution

8:07

in Africa and also in Asia

8:09

so Pakistan just put the equivalent

8:12

of six months... Oh no! Go

8:14

ahead! Jackie! You stole it! There's

8:16

six seconds left on the clock,

8:19

off you go. Meanwhile my parents

8:21

have added a solar panel to

8:24

their roof this year which is

8:26

unheard of given Australia well done

8:28

This is so hard. I just

8:31

for the record. I'm the only

8:33

non-journalist in this room and so

8:35

I'm not as polished I just

8:38

spoke about my parents solver This

8:40

next one is one of your

8:42

favorite topics. One that you tried

8:45

to make sexy in a program

8:47

recently. It's energy efficiency, one minute

8:49

off you go. So interesting is

8:52

it that we talk always about

8:54

green par, how we're going to

8:56

make electricity, but not how we're

8:59

going to save it. Look around

9:01

your house. For instance, let's go

9:03

to your kitchen. What have we

9:06

got in there? You've got a

9:08

fridge. You've got a kettle. You've

9:10

got a toaster. Ooh! Look at

9:13

your big TV! But if you

9:15

ever thought about how much... Energy

9:17

moves. Energy. Energy but also there

9:20

was a fair bit of hesitation

9:22

there. That sounds just my voice.

9:25

That is, come on, we know

9:27

how smooth you are. Correct and

9:29

incorrect. You're allowed to repeat the

9:32

word. I mean energy efficiency he

9:34

can say energy efficiency as many

9:36

times he likes but he did

9:39

hesitate so I'm going to say

9:41

that's a correct interruption. You have

9:43

38 seconds! Energy efficiency. 38 seconds

9:46

go. Meanwhile my parents have adapted

9:48

to a electric car this year

9:50

everyone once again something that is

9:53

insane to think about given they

9:55

used to be Avids. This does

9:57

nothing to do with energy efficiency.

10:00

They've transitioned. The electric cars are

10:02

more energy efficient than cars. She

10:04

didn't set up. She was getting

10:07

to it. You talked about finances

10:09

for a little while there. What

10:11

is the sense in the control

10:14

room? Was that deviation? Deviation is

10:16

the ultimate decision. So Jordan, was

10:18

that you? It was Rose. Yes,

10:21

it was Rose. All right, Rose,

10:23

you've got 27 seconds. Go. Yes,

10:26

so many people are afraid of

10:28

conserving energy. They do not want

10:30

an austerity approach to their energy

10:33

use. They want to enjoy all

10:35

of the services that energy can

10:37

provide. And so energy efficiency has

10:40

a tricky messaging problem because people

10:42

want... to not, people do not

10:44

want to, oh, so close, at

10:47

that. The definition of energy efficiency.

10:49

No, no, we have to say

10:51

why you play your whistle. And

10:54

hesitation, two things. Well done. I

10:56

will grant that. Okay, 10 seconds,

10:58

ready, go. The definition of energy

11:01

efficiency is being able to do

11:03

more with less energy every time.

11:05

And what has happened over the

11:08

history of energy efficiency is that

11:10

we have become more and more

11:12

efficient at using energy. You guys

11:15

are good. Right. I'll just say

11:17

a more eloquent when I type.

11:19

For the record. Now for the

11:22

scores, beaming like a solar panel

11:24

in direct sunlight, it's teen awake

11:27

with three points. But failing to

11:29

live up to their potential like

11:31

a cop conferences in fossil fuel

11:34

states, it's teamless sparks. No points

11:36

for you guys. That was just

11:38

warming up for back. Okay, well

11:41

the competition is hotting up, hot

11:43

enough to burn a polar bear's

11:45

bum. The climate question is, can

11:48

team the sparks catch up and

11:50

save themselves from being as useless

11:52

as a carbon credit? That's all

11:55

to come on the BBC World

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13:10

climate thing. Each team has

13:13

a pack of cards in

13:15

front of them. On those

13:17

cards is the name of

13:19

a place, a person or

13:21

an object. One team member

13:23

has to describe what's on

13:25

the card without using the

13:27

actual word and the other

13:29

teammate has to guess the

13:31

word. Each team only has

13:33

30 seconds to get as

13:35

many correct guesses as possible.

13:37

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sound effects are positively encouraged

13:41

and you can pass once.

13:44

Okay, team awake. Jackie, you're

13:46

going to go first on

13:48

your marks, gets that go.

13:50

Oh, very cold, big ice.

13:52

A big ice, and they're

13:54

dropping off. Yes. Okay, so,

13:56

oh, president of the United

13:58

States. Trump. The other one.

14:00

Biden. Yeah. It's a conference

14:02

every year. Oh, this is,

14:04

oh, it's, you've got oxygen,

14:06

what's the other one? CO2.

14:08

Yes, well, the name, the

14:10

foreign dioxide. Yeah, and then

14:13

we've got a big, big

14:15

carbon sink, massive carbon sink,

14:17

big one. Amazon. I think

14:19

we'll count that one in.

14:21

Well done. How many was

14:23

that? We got. glacier Joe

14:25

Biden to cop three carbon

14:27

dioxide for Amazon rains forest

14:29

five points well done right

14:31

Jordan do you want to

14:33

go first I'm right I

14:35

do ready yeah go go

14:37

It is a youth organisation,

14:39

it famously had a Swedish

14:41

girl who became one of

14:44

the most... Oh gosh, it's

14:46

a day of the week.

14:48

It's a day of the

14:50

week. It's the end of

14:52

the week. Oh my god,

14:54

Friday striking. I have no

14:56

idea passed. And it's the

14:58

large bit of ice, the

15:00

coldest part of the planet

15:02

in the north. It's got

15:04

a pool. This

15:06

is a global weather! What are

15:09

they to see? I've got to

15:11

prove, please, please! What is that?

15:13

The future. Well, you've got it

15:16

with school strike, because they're also

15:18

known as school strike, aren't they?

15:21

We're going to allow school strike,

15:23

okay? So how many did you

15:25

get there? Friday's for future or

15:28

school strike, permafrost, Arctic. So that's

15:30

three, three points. All right, actually,

15:32

it's over to you, 30 seconds,

15:35

starts now. President of China. The

15:37

thing that goes in your smartphone

15:40

that runs out all the time.

15:42

A battery? The thing that your

15:44

parents bought that moves them. A

15:47

car? Yeah, but what type? Electric

15:49

car? Electric. Electric. A different vehicle

15:51

car? Yeah. The thing that I

15:54

told about a controversial climate solution.

15:56

Carbon credits. Carbon capture. There you

15:59

go. that happens in the Amazon

16:01

that is burning and it's cutting

16:03

off deforestation it was burning at

16:06

one point so how many did

16:08

you get there we could come

16:11

and capture electric vehicle battery and

16:13

she's in pink for right rose

16:15

are you gonna save the day

16:18

for the sparks on your marks

16:20

get set Okay, this is when

16:22

you're flying to the US, sometimes

16:25

you go fast on the plane

16:27

because of the current. Jet stream?

16:30

Yes, this is in the Amazon,

16:32

there are lots of these things.

16:34

Trees? Yes. She was a climate

16:37

striker. Credit, Greta, Sinberg. Yes. Oh,

16:39

this is when you make clothes,

16:41

but in a sustainable way. Oh,

16:44

no, unsustainable way. We buy them.

16:46

First fashion. Yes. Thank you. The

16:49

opposite. He, you know, the vice

16:51

presidential candidate. Oh, gosh, Al Gore.

16:53

Well done. That was great. You

16:56

put the spark back in spark.

16:58

Okay, which ones did we get?

17:01

So, Tree, Greta, Jetstream, Fast Fashion,

17:03

Four. Nice, that's great. Which one

17:05

did you get out of interest?

17:08

Peepbog? Peepog? Peepog? Ireland's full of

17:10

peephogs. For a special subject. Where

17:12

are you from is all of

17:15

them? Exactly. And some men? Peepbogues.

17:17

All right, the results are in

17:20

dragging their feet like a Saudi

17:22

climate negotiator is team spark with

17:24

seven points, leaving team awake in

17:27

the lead with 12. We're catching

17:29

up, we're catching up. Yeah, yeah,

17:31

yeah. So

17:36

Team Spark, time is melting away

17:38

just like the ice caps. You

17:40

have one last chance to get

17:42

it together. Are you ready? Yeah,

17:44

absolutely. Are you confident you're going

17:46

to stay in the lead? 100%?

17:48

Could not be more confident. There

17:50

we go. So round three is

17:52

headlines. I'll play your headline, but

17:54

we'll dact out one word or

17:56

maybe two. And you have to

17:59

tell me what those words where.

18:01

Points will be awarded for humor

18:03

as... as well as the correct

18:05

answer. Team the Spark, so that's

18:07

Jordan and Rose, you have a

18:09

beltering when you think you've got

18:11

the correct answer, so let's hear

18:13

that. So polite, both saying, you

18:15

do it. And Team awake, Akshat

18:17

and Jackie, you have a ball-shaped

18:19

rattle, give it a shake. Okay,

18:21

so fingers on bells and balls.

18:23

In May, Bloomberg published this headline.

18:25

How Sewage is helping along the...

18:30

As a transition. Nice and

18:32

especially nice rose given that

18:34

actually works for Bloomberg. Did

18:36

you write that? I would

18:39

know my headlines. So it

18:41

turns out sewage water that

18:43

leaves your sink shower or

18:46

even toilet is hotter than

18:48

water than when it came

18:50

into your house. So this

18:53

is the story of one

18:55

Canadian town that's generating thermal

18:57

energy from sewage and in

19:00

2022 it generated enough energy

19:02

to heat three thousand residential

19:04

apartments. year which is quite

19:06

hard. Isn't it? That's good.

19:09

So well done for point

19:11

there. In the final few

19:13

days of February the BBC

19:16

published this story. Costs rise

19:18

as climate change hits crops.

19:20

Coffee. Coffee. Coffee. Is that

19:23

what we want to go?

19:25

What are you going with?

19:27

Coffee. Coffee. Coffee. Coffee. Coffee.

19:30

Cocon. Easter Eggs cost, right?

19:32

Oh, so close! I was

19:34

going to say dark chocolate.

19:37

It is. Heatwave in West

19:39

Africa blasted cocoa crops. Cutting

19:41

yields and causing UK Easter

19:43

egg prices to rise by

19:46

50% or more. Gonna get

19:48

half a point? No. That

19:50

was a headline published in

19:53

October in... Euro News. Any

19:55

ideas? What do Scottish people

19:57

like? Haggin? Oh, okay, Jordan

20:00

from Team Spark. Lunchrel wood.

20:02

Incorrect. Woodfire ovens. So random.

20:04

No. So we have a

20:07

second version of this with

20:09

only one word bleeped out.

20:11

Let's hear that and see

20:13

if you can get it.

20:16

Glasgow is triling eco-friendly electric.

20:18

To heat its aging homes.

20:20

Team awake, Jackie. You looked

20:23

at me like, you knew

20:25

it. You two are looking

20:27

each other in the eyes

20:30

so intensely. It is incredible.

20:32

It's too intensely. I'm going

20:34

to give you three seconds.

20:37

Mira. Mira. Mira. Incorrect. Electric

20:39

furnaces. Incorrect. What is it?

20:41

Glasgow is triling eco-friendly electric

20:43

wallpaper to heat its aging

20:46

homes. Mirror wasn't too bad.

20:48

Mirror wasn't too bad. Electric

20:50

wallpaper is being tried out

20:53

in 12 properties in the

20:55

Scottish city of Glasgow to

20:57

see if it's viable as

21:00

a gas-free heat source. I've

21:02

heard it all. I mean,

21:04

it's electric blankets work. Why

21:07

not wallpaper? So this is

21:09

the final one of this

21:11

round. On a warm August

21:13

day, Bloomburg penned this. California

21:16

is turning to... for wildfire

21:18

prevention. Jackie! Oh no, I...

21:20

Team awake? This is so

21:23

the wrong headline! prisoners. But

21:25

it's because they used prisoners

21:27

to put out the fire.

21:30

Jackie tell me a bit

21:32

more, prisoners, wildfires. So I

21:34

believe that they were using

21:37

prisoners in the US when

21:39

the wildfires were really kicking

21:41

off to help firefight. So

21:43

they were out with firefighting

21:46

crews helping to get rid

21:48

of the fire. Oh, okay,

21:50

well that's interesting. didn't know

21:53

that. Team, the spark. Goats.

21:55

Was it really? Jordan Goats.

21:57

Goats. Are you saying that

22:00

in a comedy sense? Would

22:02

you actually mean that as

22:04

an answer? I mean it

22:07

would do both. Why would

22:09

a coward go out of

22:11

fire? Because they eat the

22:13

foliage. Yeah, around it so

22:16

that it doesn't have the

22:18

kindling and it's a natural

22:20

fabric. I'm going to watch

22:23

your phone because that's very

22:25

creative. And I'm going to

22:27

give you one, the prisoners

22:30

as well, but actually both

22:32

of you are incorrect. wildfire

22:34

prevention. California now has a

22:37

burn bot to carry out

22:39

controlled burns, a way of

22:41

clearing vegetation, much like a

22:43

goatwood Jordan I guess, to

22:46

reduce the amount of fuel

22:48

available to potential wildfires. Very

22:50

cold. They always forget the

22:53

goats. Just

22:56

like coal power in the UK our

22:58

time is up a final tally of

23:00

the schools and the real climate leader

23:02

is team awake with 13 points And

23:05

I have your climate question crowns here

23:07

for you you go at Shat climate

23:09

royalty. Yep. Oh, how exciting? One for

23:11

you Jackie and also a very Carbon-friendly

23:13

gift. This is so sweet! They're very

23:15

well-renowned flour at Christmas. They've got red

23:18

leaves. Ponsetas, I think they're pronounced. So

23:20

nice. And you don't have to share

23:22

it, don't worry. Here's one for you

23:24

too, actually. The BBC budget did stretch,

23:26

I mean, amazingly, who would have thought.

23:28

And team sparks. A close second with

23:31

nine points or really four points behind

23:33

in the end and thank you so

23:35

much taking part. I have got a

23:37

crown for you as well. Are they

23:39

also gold? They're also gold. wanted

23:41

to write write loser on

23:44

but my editor

23:46

said said silver oh so here

23:48

here you go. thank

23:50

Thank you. I'm I'm

23:52

proud of us. I

23:54

proud think we did

23:56

a good job.

23:59

Thank you, Rose, for

24:01

being here with

24:03

me on this journey.

24:05

Rose It's been a

24:07

roller here It really

24:09

has. journey it's been a roller

24:12

final words from

24:14

the winning team and

24:16

the team team? and the

24:18

team. team losing team or be

24:20

awake because it's a

24:22

climate emergency. emergency. Oh, what

24:25

that thought went on? from

24:27

the Anything from just just glad everyone

24:29

had a good time. a we

24:31

learned a lot more learned the climate

24:33

crisis. the ha, perfect. Perfect. Now,

24:35

thank you to our wonderfully

24:37

wise contestants. contestants. We about We

24:40

have Akshat Jackie Wakefield and Jordan

24:42

Dunbar. Thank you for listening along.

24:44

Let contestants. us know how many

24:47

points you won. And to

24:49

our brilliant production team, they Thank

24:51

were know how Simon Watts and James

24:53

And to I've been your host,

24:55

Greg Jackson. And I hope you

24:57

enjoy your holidays. Bye House, Simon Watts,

24:59

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25:01

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