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are you doing this week? It's

1:00

week? of Christmas. week of Christmas.

1:02

at me, I'm delighted. look at me, I'm delighted. Yeah,

1:05

well, it's already happened. We've

1:07

already happened. We've all

1:10

our presents. all our you're

1:12

worried about you spoilers, worried about

1:14

worried because they're gonna be

1:16

coming hot and heavy. they're

1:18

What was your be coming hot

1:21

and heavy. What was your hall like? My

1:23

uh, uh, was good. I I

1:25

got like... Stuff I uh, either

1:27

stuff I or fun stuff. stuff

1:30

nice. Hey me too. me My my

1:32

lovely wife got me my

1:34

lovely wife got me tickets to

1:36

a magic show show? Oh I don't have

1:38

the show? it but yeah don't have

1:40

the name of it, but like

1:42

one of these like small theater

1:44

ones in New York have

1:46

to dress up up and everything. That's cool.

1:49

cool. So you have to give us

1:51

some hotel room? room. I think it's

1:53

at a I think

1:55

it's at a

1:57

club I like one.

1:59

where we had to one

2:02

where a to

2:04

go to a

2:06

hotel room I I

2:08

had to wear

2:10

a suit a suit.

2:12

Yeah, I remember that. This sounds

2:14

like it's a very similar. I

2:16

assume this club is owned by

2:18

some head of the mob or

2:21

something like that. And you know,

2:23

yeah, we'll be like a password

2:25

to get in. Hopefully, and hopefully

2:27

this magician tells it to us,

2:29

but I didn't even ask for

2:31

tickets to a magic show. Wow,

2:33

while my wife knows me. Yeah,

2:35

I didn't get tickets to a

2:38

magic show. But Tom, you know

2:40

what I did do? I went

2:42

to something. Almost as good as

2:44

a magic show. What's that? I

2:46

went to a basketball game and

2:48

you're probably thinking, oh yeah, basketball

2:50

games, there are a diamond dozen,

2:52

just a bunch of boring basketball

2:54

players. Nope, I went to the

2:57

Harlem Globetrotters. Tom. Wow, the best

2:59

basketball team in the world. If

3:01

you don't know about the Harlem

3:03

Globetrotters, they're funny. Yeah, and then

3:05

they play basketball. And they do

3:07

bits. To be in the NBA

3:09

or anywhere else. Is that the

3:11

premise? You're too good? I mean,

3:13

they're always so much better than

3:16

the people, than the senators that

3:18

they're playing against. The generals, the

3:20

Washington generals. When I went in

3:22

like, you know, 1988 or whatever.

3:24

When I first saw, I was

3:26

very upset to see that Curley

3:28

was no longer with the squad.

3:30

From the three stages? No, Curley

3:33

Neal. Oh, you know, basketball player.

3:35

Yeah. He was, his name is

3:37

Curley, but he was bald. I

3:39

mean, much like Curley. Yeah. A

3:41

lot like Curley from the three

3:43

suitors. Yeah. I was also, I

3:45

was dead. Very surprised. He also

3:47

passed away four years ago. So

3:49

what? Curly. Some kind of basketball

3:52

related accident. Curly from the three

3:54

stooges died a hundred years ago.

3:56

Curly from the three stooges died.

3:58

after he made like three three

4:00

stooges movies. Hey, the bad vago,

4:02

that hard living vondo life. I

4:04

mean, it's true. But no, Tom,

4:06

when I used to go to

4:08

the Home Globe Todders and I

4:11

was a kid. You had season

4:13

tickets. They'd beat the Washington generals

4:15

by like, you know, 75 points

4:17

every year. Yeah. Yeah. Tom, this

4:19

year was close. Oh no, they've

4:21

got, they're getting better, the generals.

4:23

Like the whole thing was just

4:25

like, like between like a two

4:28

and four point game and like

4:30

a lot of the time the

4:32

generals were, it was just like

4:34

watching a regular basketball game. Except

4:36

one team was fun to watch

4:38

and the other was like just

4:40

playing boring basic plays. Yeah, and

4:42

in my memory, all the, like,

4:44

yeah, I thought, uh, I thought

4:47

the Washington generals were just like

4:49

these hapless goofs. Yeah, they couldn't

4:51

shoot straight. Yeah, no, they were

4:53

just as good as those sort

4:55

of globe drawters. Oh, how? Yeah,

4:57

they just didn't do a lot

4:59

of funny bits. But Tom, you

5:01

know the Harlem Globe drawers. Do

5:03

you know about the Harlem Globe

5:06

drawers? I mean, I don't know

5:08

what, what, like, do you want

5:10

me to name five people on

5:12

the team? Like, how well, yeah.

5:14

Also, I don't keep in finding

5:16

it find the curle even find

5:18

the curle isn't find the curle

5:20

isn't, the curle isn't, the curle

5:23

isn't, the curle isn't, the curle

5:25

isn't, the curle isn't, it, isn't,

5:27

isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't,

5:29

isn't, isn't, it, isn't, it, it,

5:31

it, it, it, it, it, it,

5:33

it, it, it, it, And here

5:35

I am in my head thinking

5:37

like well I only have to

5:39

go up with four names because

5:42

of course I didn't know Curley's

5:44

on the team. No, but you

5:46

know that like yeah, you know,

5:48

it's it's not a real basketball

5:50

game and they like stop letting

5:52

to do like jokes and like.

5:54

Yeah, it's like professional wrestling. Yeah.

5:56

Well, these two like women probably

5:59

like. almost our age sitting behind

6:01

me at the game did not

6:03

know that. And every time they

6:05

like stuffed the proceedings to like,

6:07

like run around with them. bucket

6:09

of water and like you know

6:11

to throw it on each other

6:13

and then they throw it on

6:15

the crowd and it's not water

6:18

it's confetti every time something like

6:20

that happened these women were dasping

6:22

and just going like what is

6:24

going on here and like cackling

6:26

and be like what is no

6:28

one paying attention to the shot

6:30

clock yeah and like uh like

6:32

it didn't raise in a like

6:34

any alarm bells when like They

6:37

were all miked up on the

6:39

on the on the on the

6:41

court when they talk and they

6:43

all addressed the crowd constantly. Yeah,

6:45

these ladies they were dumb and

6:47

then at the end I was

6:49

like, I think they're there were

6:51

moms, but I think they were

6:54

like moms like, you know that

6:56

that type of mom that is

6:58

like, oh, you were like a

7:00

club lady and they, the rich

7:02

man tried to domesticate you but

7:04

he couldn't but now you're like

7:06

like yeah you haven't had these

7:08

kids but like you're still like

7:10

you're not not like qualified to

7:13

be a mom you know what

7:15

I mean yeah you you you

7:17

like somehow missed the life experience

7:19

to understand like the Harlem Globe

7:21

draughters yeah you had other stuff

7:23

going on And you couldn't be

7:25

bothered to learn about the wide

7:27

world of sports entertainment. Yeah, and

7:29

I don't think they like interacted

7:32

with their children at all who

7:34

were there. They were just like

7:36

interacting with each other and talking

7:38

about how like this one guy

7:40

in the Washington generals was real

7:42

hot. Oh, well, and I mean,

7:44

and she's probably thinking, oh boy,

7:46

if they win the game, maybe

7:49

I'll try and see if he

7:51

wants to come out and celebrate

7:53

with me. Meanwhile, no idiot. They're

7:55

not going to win the game.

7:57

He's going to be depressed after

7:59

the game. Him and the rest

8:01

of the generals are going to

8:03

be so much. that they lost

8:05

at 10. They had like another

8:08

game like an hour after this

8:10

one ended. Oh, yeah, so forget

8:12

it. Two times a day. He's

8:14

playing a double header, he's gonna

8:16

lose both games. He's not gonna

8:18

be in the mood to go

8:20

out. One thing that really surprised

8:22

me and then we could move

8:24

on to the more serious topics.

8:27

I'm definitely serious topics. Before we

8:29

move on to. To say your

8:31

bit, but before we move on

8:33

to more serious topics, I have

8:35

more magician stuff to talk about.

8:37

Okay, cool, cool. There's a lot

8:39

related to the three stooges as

8:41

well. So we have two topics

8:44

we can talk about at any

8:46

given time. A lot less spinning

8:48

the ball on their fingers. It's,

8:50

uh, as there used to be.

8:52

Now, why do you think that

8:54

is spinning the ball on the...

8:57

There was a lot of it.

8:59

Oh, it's still a lot. But

9:01

like I remember that being like

9:04

90% of the of the game

9:06

of the show. Yeah. Yeah. I

9:08

mean, that's just like a great

9:10

go-to if you could spin a

9:13

ball on your finger for a

9:15

really long time. That's fun to

9:17

watch. Yeah. Well, I guess that's,

9:20

you know, you don't want to

9:22

overuse it. Yeah. I think I'd

9:24

like to learn how to like

9:26

spin a ball on my finger

9:29

for a really long time. That

9:31

always seems like a cool thing

9:33

to do. I'd love to be

9:36

able to do anything with a

9:38

basketball that demonstrated proficiency. Yeah. But

9:40

like if I was really good

9:42

at spinning a basketball. I would

9:45

be able to just like go

9:47

to any basketball court and go,

9:49

hey, anybody want to play a

9:51

quick game? And then I would

9:54

spin the ball like a really

9:56

long time on my finger. Right.

9:58

And they wouldn't know that I

10:01

I'm not good at basketball. But

10:03

what happened if they said like,

10:05

yeah, you would just like rely

10:07

on. the ball spinning for so

10:10

long that you never have to

10:12

actually start the game? Yeah, well,

10:14

let me, once the ball finishes

10:16

spinning, then we'll be able to

10:19

play. How long are you thinking

10:21

it's going to stay spinning up

10:23

near your finger? I'm going to

10:26

be spinning it with my hands.

10:28

Oh, you're going to keep doing

10:30

it, yeah. Yeah. But I'm, but

10:32

I wouldn't, wouldn't they just say,

10:35

okay, stop doing that then. Stop

10:37

continuing to spin it. I honestly

10:39

had played dumb and I'd pretend

10:42

like I don't know what they're

10:44

talking about. I hope something you

10:46

inspired it and this and this

10:48

is funny. Well hopefully it doesn't

10:51

come to that team what I'm

10:53

hoping is that when I say

10:55

hey you guys want to play

10:57

ball and then I spin it

11:00

really long they'll they'll run off

11:02

the the court they'll be so

11:04

afraid to play against me because

11:07

they'll think I'm so good. So

11:09

hopefully we'll never come to What's

11:11

your end game here? So you

11:13

scared all these men off the

11:16

court and ladies So what end?

11:18

Then I then I can go

11:20

a basketball court all to myself

11:22

Yeah, we got a guy could

11:25

get used to that And I

11:27

don't I practice some layups or

11:29

something Yeah, you put the ball

11:32

down on the ground like a

11:34

pillow and go to sleep. Yeah,

11:36

take a nap. And then finally,

11:38

some peace and quiet down here

11:41

at the courts. Yeah, and then

11:43

when other people show up and

11:45

they're like, hey old man, like

11:47

get off the court, we want

11:50

to play. I'll then I'll go,

11:52

well, I'll play you for it

11:54

and then I'll spin the ball

11:57

on my finger again and run

11:59

off screen. They'll think twice about

12:01

taking me on one-on-on-one. Tim but

12:03

my my my magic related thing

12:06

that I was going to tell

12:08

you is that I was in

12:10

Pennsylvania over Christmas. Transylvania? You always

12:13

think that I say that Tim

12:15

and I would never go somewhere

12:17

so scary. for Christmas. Maybe for

12:19

Halloween. Sure, Halloween. You might find

12:22

it in Transylvania. Terrifying. We were

12:24

eating at this restaurant. It was

12:26

like a Mexican restaurant that reminded

12:28

me of Don Ricardo's from Babylon

12:31

Village. Like so I was like,

12:33

all right, I like this, I'm

12:35

happy about this. Well, I'm already

12:38

sitting there thinking this is great,

12:40

I love this, when all of

12:42

a sudden I notice a man

12:44

in a sequined jacket walking from

12:47

table to table. And I say

12:49

to myself, well, that's either. the

12:51

owner or a magician and then

12:53

it was why not both it

12:56

could have been both but it

12:58

was a magician at least because

13:00

remember the proprietor of the Max

13:03

Max himself was a restaurant owner

13:05

slash yeah were you at the

13:07

Max no it wasn't I wish

13:09

I was at the Max I

13:12

wasn't at the Max but you're

13:14

right to him and that's probably

13:16

where this person got the idea

13:19

to either own a restaurant or

13:21

become a magician. But this guy's

13:23

only going to tables with kids,

13:25

not tables with like overly eager

13:28

looking men in their 40s. That's

13:30

crap. Yeah. Was he doing like?

13:32

And here's the tie in Tim

13:34

and this is why it's crap

13:37

because I'm listening to this guy's

13:39

patter, you know, his magical patter.

13:41

And I'm like, this guy, he's

13:44

going to kids, his opener is

13:46

going, hey, you kids know the

13:48

three stooges? Nah, these kids don't

13:50

know the three stooges nowadays. Wait,

13:53

why was that his opener? He

13:55

was doing like, um, ball, like

13:57

the ball and cup trick, and

13:59

I think he named the balls,

14:02

like, low, marrying Curly. But that's

14:04

a game I like to play

14:06

with friends. All right. Do you

14:09

have to add to the three?

14:11

Hello, Marry, or Curley? Mo, Larry,

14:13

and Curley, he called the balls.

14:15

And then he's like, and I

14:18

think he expected a laugh from

14:20

that and didn't get one. So

14:22

he's like, oh, you're you at

14:25

the next table going like, ha!

14:27

Forget you kids. This guy

14:29

sounds like he really knows

14:32

what's going on. I'm gonna

14:34

go talk to him. He

14:36

knows bestuges. Yeah, I'm gonna

14:38

do my magic tricks for

14:40

a more appreciative audience. So

14:43

he never came by. Yeah,

14:45

no, he never came by

14:47

our table, so I didn't

14:49

get to see, you know,

14:51

see what his tricks really

14:53

looked like, you know, if

14:56

you know, if you know,

14:58

if they were decent or

15:00

not. You know what he

15:02

must not have been a

15:04

good magician if he didn't

15:06

if he only has a

15:09

confidence to to perform in

15:11

front of children his his

15:13

tricks aren't his skills aren't

15:15

ready for prime time that's

15:17

what I thought that was

15:20

like this guy yeah he's

15:22

he's probably asking if they

15:24

know mow lary and curly

15:26

as like just a you

15:28

know a general how smart

15:30

are these kids yeah Yeah,

15:33

these kids have lived a

15:35

little bit. They're going to

15:37

be able to rumble what's

15:39

going on here, where I'm

15:41

secretly putting these little foam

15:43

balls. But yeah, so that

15:46

was a bummer. It ruined

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And I'm back here with

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Tim. Tim. It's the end

17:33

of the year. Sure is

17:35

Tom. And man, what a

17:37

year it was. What a

17:39

year it was. 2024. Hey,

17:41

that's one for the record

17:43

books. Yeah, do you ever,

17:45

do you have this happen

17:47

with years for like, and

17:49

I feel like it happens

17:51

more and more as you

17:53

get older. Like,

17:56

at the end

17:58

of the

18:00

year, it's the year,

18:02

it's like, ah, look back and you're like,

18:04

I have no idea what happened this

18:06

year. And then no idea something about what

18:08

happened. You're like, that was this year? you

18:10

watch something about what

18:12

don't know. I'd just stop like, that

18:14

sick of because I think I gonna be

18:16

like, I what a bad year. it. You know

18:19

what, I'm sick of, because I

18:21

think thinking a year is

18:23

bad. like, what a bad year,

18:25

a bunch of sick everybody

18:28

thinking a year is bad. the

18:30

whole year, relentlessly. relentlessly.

18:33

Yeah. I I guess that, I guess, I

18:36

I guess that makes it a bad year. a bad year.

18:38

Yeah, I mean I mean,

18:40

I'm trying to remember, like

18:42

it's hard to remember hard

18:44

to remember I don't know,

18:47

everybody got depressed all at

18:49

once. all at once. When did

18:51

that happen? happen? I mean I

18:53

mean, like going or it

18:55

the pandemic the was starting

18:57

before the pandemic you sure.

19:00

pinpoint it to you could probably pinpoint

19:02

it to like when everybody started getting

19:05

like it it just got got

19:07

progressively worse. worse and then like

19:09

and then things things accelerated it.

19:11

trying to trying to remember, I'm

19:13

trying to think back back like

19:15

In, you know, know, like were

19:17

there things there things like

19:19

What a What a fucking

19:21

awesome year. so. We all think we

19:23

all remember all these cool

19:26

things that that I think they were. think

19:28

they were. I think they and

19:30

well. White, alive and even that

19:33

old yet. that old yet.

19:35

All the the golden girls

19:37

are still alive. alive. Yeah. And

19:39

we'll be forever. I mean

19:41

I get like cause I had

19:43

a little bit of

19:45

a tough time going through,

19:48

like different different year and because so

19:50

so many of them. talking

19:52

about like the just talking about

19:54

like the biggest news stories biggest

19:56

news the biggest news stories, especially

19:58

when there are multi act of wars

20:01

happening around the world aren't like

20:03

fun. You know, they aren't, you

20:05

know, exciting light-hearted stories. What about

20:07

sickos? Sickos think that stuff's fun.

20:10

I try and stay away from

20:12

the sicko net. The, you know,

20:14

where all the sickos talk about

20:17

all the stuff they like. So,

20:19

but I did, I mean, I

20:21

found stuff that was like, you

20:23

know. that that is not as

20:26

depressing I guess but even that

20:28

stuff it's kind of like yeah

20:30

but it's like yeah I don't

20:32

know it's stuff like the Olympics

20:35

where it's like yeah the Olympics

20:37

were cool the Olympics were fun

20:39

but like that wasn't something particular

20:42

to this year like the Olympics

20:44

when no no the Olympics happened

20:46

in 2024 it was particular to

20:48

this year yeah it happened in

20:51

Paris But I'm saying like every

20:53

time the Olympics happened for the

20:55

most part unless there's like a

20:57

tragedy or they you know the

21:00

it screwed up like they were

21:02

during the pandemic where they had

21:04

to like do me a year

21:06

late like unless that's going on

21:09

the Olympics are always a good

21:11

time. Am I misremembering the 1996

21:13

who was Atlanta Olympics? when the

21:16

mom went off, right? And everybody

21:18

thought Richard Jewell did it. Yeah,

21:20

um, not any sword. And I'm

21:22

misremembering in that, uh, like, I

21:25

remember that being like, oh man,

21:27

that added. Anyway, back to the

21:29

Olympics, like, uh, like that wasn't

21:31

even like the big story of

21:34

the Olympics that year. Yeah, no,

21:36

it was like I remember the

21:38

news 24 hours a day, we're

21:41

gonna go back to other. things

21:43

that are new. Yeah, there's track

21:45

and field events happening. People are

21:47

swimming in the pool. Yeah, I

21:50

think it was more just that

21:52

maybe maybe when it when like

21:54

crazy things happened. there was just

21:56

more of a tendency to be

21:59

like, well, we'll have to wait

22:01

to find out why that happened.

22:03

But until then, we're not just

22:06

gonna endlessly speculate. Is it that

22:08

or were we just 14 years

22:10

old? And like, we just weren't

22:12

plugged into that discourse. Excuse me.

22:15

I mean, I'm sure that's part

22:17

of it, but I don't think

22:19

it was like that big of

22:21

it because I think most people.

22:24

I mean the news wasn't around

22:26

so much and I think like

22:28

our parents like as adults at

22:30

that time that they were probably

22:33

like oh wow that's crazy but

22:35

that doesn't affect my day-to-day life

22:37

so I don't need to consume

22:40

you know 10 hours a week

22:42

about it. Yeah the other thing

22:44

is like they used to have

22:46

like op-eds in the newspaper and

22:49

stuff the way that they do

22:51

now but like when did like

22:53

quote-unquote think pieces become a thing?

22:55

Because I feel like that, like,

22:58

people like read a lot more,

23:00

like, opinions on the news these

23:02

days, which is like, why are

23:05

you doing that? Why are we

23:07

all doing that? Why don't we

23:09

just watch TV shows? Why don't

23:11

we just watch must-see TV like

23:14

we did in 1996? Well, something,

23:16

you know, you know, incomprehensible or

23:18

scary happened. Yeah, time to turn

23:20

on, man about you. Oh, let's

23:23

see what Paul and Jamie are

23:25

up to this week. I guess

23:27

it's just that, that like, yeah,

23:29

it was easier, yeah, easier to

23:32

tune step out. But I mean,

23:34

that's also the case, like, you

23:36

know, we both know people that,

23:39

like, just don't pay attention to

23:41

the news and they're, you know,

23:43

not, not, they're what? happier than

23:45

us. Oh yeah happier and not

23:48

like in a like oh I

23:50

don't like I hate the news

23:52

I threw my TV out the

23:54

window but just like I don't

23:57

know they've got other stuff going

23:59

on so they're just not really

24:01

like paying super close attention to

24:04

everything on the news and that's

24:06

fine too. Sometimes Jay Leno goes

24:08

you guys see this you hear

24:10

about this but these people say

24:13

no I haven't seen this I

24:15

haven't heard about that Jay thanks

24:17

for telling me and thanks for

24:19

for telling me in such a

24:22

white-hearted way finding the humor in

24:24

it. Did you know, uh, did

24:26

you hear about, uh, Jay Leno's

24:29

recent appearance on a club random,

24:31

Tim? Yeah, I've heard about some

24:33

recent appearance, huh? Yeah, I heard

24:35

about it from listening to the

24:38

club random, the second it dropped.

24:40

Uh, I was reading it. I

24:42

gotta say, not looking so hot

24:44

these days. Was this before or

24:47

after he felt out mad hill?

24:49

Well, it was after he fell

24:51

down that hill, but apparently Bill

24:53

Maher brought up, which I had

24:56

not heard, but it's funny that

24:58

it exists, that there are conspiracy

25:00

theories that Jay Leno owes a

25:03

lot of money to the mob

25:05

because he's a gambler, and all

25:07

these stories are just ridiculous covers

25:09

for like the mob beating the

25:12

shit out of him. But

25:15

from what I read it

25:17

was kind of funny because

25:19

then Jay Leno was like,

25:21

oh yeah, the mob's gonna

25:23

come, uh, gonna come find

25:25

me in in Pittsburgh at

25:27

the, at the Hampton Inn

25:29

and beat me up and

25:31

then throw me down the

25:33

hill. And apparently Bill Maher

25:35

had to be like, oh

25:37

no, no, no, that's not

25:39

what they're saying. They're saying

25:41

that that's bullshit that you

25:43

made that up. That they

25:45

just beat you up normal.

25:47

If he owes bookies to

25:49

money, he owes a lot

25:51

of money. Because he has

25:53

like, you know, like, it's

25:56

like $350 million in the

25:58

bank just sitting in like

26:00

a case savings account. That

26:02

was basically. his response and

26:04

he was like, I mean,

26:06

why wouldn't I just give

26:08

them like one of my

26:10

hundreds of very expensive cars?

26:12

Like, how would I have

26:14

all those but they beat

26:16

me up three times? And

26:18

I'm just allowing this to

26:20

continue. And one of the

26:22

times they like threw hot

26:24

oil on my face. But

26:26

I'm like, but I'm sitting

26:28

there going, nah, sorry, you

26:30

can't have the model. P.

26:32

I like to all around

26:34

in it. Yeah, everybody in

26:36

Burbank. They love seeing me.

26:38

A great conversation between two

26:40

great men. Me and you?

26:42

Yeah. You're just, you're just

26:44

taking a second to acknowledge

26:47

it. You know what? They

26:49

shouldn't put a commercial in

26:51

that club random episode. Hey,

26:53

you like this conversation. There's

26:55

essentially this, uh, an equal.

26:57

conversation happening every week between

26:59

Tim and Tom. This show

27:01

is a lot a lot

27:03

a lot a lot like

27:05

the Bill Maher and Jay

27:07

Leno talking. If you wish

27:09

if you wish Jay Leno

27:11

was on every episode a

27:13

club random and that was

27:15

just the show. We should

27:17

change our description in Apple

27:19

podcast. They just say that.

27:21

to describe our show. And

27:23

we won't explain which one

27:25

of us is which. Did

27:27

you ever wish Jay Leno

27:29

was on every episode of

27:31

club random? Let me tell

27:33

you about a show calling

27:35

bleak guy to everything. That'll

27:37

scratch that is. Because that's

27:40

basically what it is. Uh-huh.

27:42

All right. So that was

27:44

one of the big stories

27:46

of 2024, Jay Leno, Club

27:48

Random. Tom, a lot of

27:50

these we did. So it's

27:52

about, can I tell you,

27:54

can I tell you, Tim's

27:56

regret of the year. Sure,

27:58

what was it? My regret

28:00

for the year, Tom, and

28:02

then I expect you to

28:04

reciprocate with your regret of

28:06

the year. Not taking that

28:08

eclipse seriously. I was like,

28:10

oh, these people are looking

28:12

to go watch this eclipse,

28:14

this solar eclipse, bunch of.

28:16

Don yeah, hey get a

28:18

job you weirdos, right? Then

28:20

it happened. Yeah, like a

28:22

lot of people did quit

28:24

their job for it Yeah,

28:26

yeah like years in the

28:28

beds But just to prepare

28:31

um, but like that was

28:33

a thing where like everybody

28:35

decided to stop being depressed

28:37

and cynical all the time

28:39

and just enjoy like a

28:41

natural thing and the way

28:43

I enjoyed it was by

28:45

being like, oh shit, yeah,

28:47

okay, and like going to

28:49

get a coffee, walking to

28:51

the coffee shop, I mean

28:53

like, yeah, I don't have

28:55

like a thing to look

28:57

at the eclipse through, so

28:59

I'll just look at some

29:01

other people who are looking

29:03

at the eclipse. Yeah, I

29:05

mean, I don't, I don't

29:07

know when the like- Other

29:09

people went to like remote

29:11

cabins and stuff, yeah. No,

29:13

and that's one's not going

29:15

to like likely of that

29:17

magnitude. likely not happening in

29:19

our lifetime in like this

29:22

area. Well would you travel

29:24

next time though now that

29:26

now that you screwed up?

29:28

Probably not because it's not

29:30

it won't it won't be

29:32

in like the zeitgeist where

29:34

I am the way that

29:36

this one was right where

29:38

like My community and my

29:40

friends and my family were

29:42

all talking about it, and

29:44

I was just a little

29:46

stinker in the corner being

29:48

like you those are all

29:50

losers Yeah, I mean that's

29:52

pretty much what you do

29:54

about everything that's popular or

29:56

that people like. That's not

29:58

true dumb. Or that people

30:00

think they'll enjoy and you

30:02

go, you're not gonna enjoy

30:04

that. Give me one. Give

30:06

me one example besides me.

30:08

And when they do, you

30:10

go, ah, damn. I wish

30:13

I had enjoyed that. Oh,

30:15

what's your regret of the

30:17

year? My regret of the

30:19

year, I don't know if

30:21

I necessarily have a regret

30:23

of the year. I did

30:25

take things like that seriously.

30:27

No, you didn't. What did

30:29

you do for the... Not

30:31

literally, but seriously. What did

30:33

you do for the eclipse?

30:35

I mean, I got a

30:37

pair of glasses in advance

30:39

so I could look at

30:41

it, but I didn't travel.

30:43

But I'm just saying like,

30:45

I don't have any regrets

30:47

about it. Because even though

30:49

I know I could have

30:51

traveled and gotten a better

30:53

experience, if I drove a

30:55

few hours away or whatever,

30:57

I don't care that much.

30:59

I'm sure it would have

31:01

been cool. I'm sure I

31:04

wouldn't have regretted doing it,

31:06

but like, I don't know,

31:08

I got to see it.

31:10

I thought it was neat.

31:12

You're the Bill Mar of

31:14

this. I

31:16

mean, I don't know which

31:19

one's worse to be, so.

31:21

Bill Marf. Yeah, I don't

31:23

know. I like it's scratched

31:25

enough of an itch for

31:27

me seeing it that way.

31:29

Sure. All right. Fine. No,

31:31

no regrets from Tom. Well,

31:33

but at the same time,

31:35

I've heard from people who

31:38

have who traveled to see

31:40

it and they said like.

31:42

You know, it's indescribable that

31:44

it was so much different.

31:46

I fully believe that too.

31:48

Great. That sounded very condescending.

31:50

I fully believe that. I

31:52

fully believe that you thought

31:54

that. Well, what I'm trying

31:57

to say is that like

31:59

I don't want people who

32:01

traveled or whatever thinking that

32:03

I don't like that I'm

32:05

thinking oh that's stupid you

32:07

shouldn't have done that like

32:09

I got basically the same

32:11

experience I'm sure they got

32:13

a much better experience right

32:16

but you were too cool

32:18

to do it and remain

32:20

too cool you wouldn't do

32:22

it again because they're losers

32:24

and you're cool I mean

32:26

at least I could look

32:28

at the sun to him

32:30

I ain't have to just

32:32

look at other people I

32:34

know And Tom, there's my

32:37

regret of the year. You

32:39

have no regrets about anything.

32:41

No. Although it was cool

32:43

even just walking around with

32:45

it, like, you know, weird.

32:47

Like, it was like a

32:49

shadow world for a few

32:51

minutes. Yeah. So that was

32:53

neat. I like that. where

32:56

he was doing the hearing.

32:58

What? You have Dave Barry

33:00

do all your research for

33:02

this show. I do. Every

33:04

week you just come in

33:06

with Dave Barry's latest column

33:08

and that's what you've got

33:10

to talk about. That's why

33:12

this show never stays on

33:15

topic because you've only got

33:17

whatever Dave Barry talked about

33:19

that week. You've got to

33:21

redirect to. No I'd like

33:23

to see Dave Barry on

33:25

Club Random. Oh wow.

33:27

Yeah, right? Yeah. Yeah. What

33:29

do you got? Then I

33:32

would like to see a

33:34

podcast that would be described

33:36

as, would you, do you

33:38

wish Dave Barry was on

33:40

Club Random every week? Well,

33:42

you're gonna love this show.

33:44

That's more accurate to this

33:46

show and I'm the Dave

33:49

Barry and your Bill Mar.

33:51

That's not true, but anyway.

33:53

Well my list him of

33:55

big things that happened. I

33:57

was reading about a lot

33:59

of big space stuff that

34:01

happened. Okay. So there was

34:04

the first commercial space walk,

34:06

the first like, you know,

34:08

non astronaut, like just a

34:10

rich guy that paid money.

34:12

Right. Although in this case,

34:14

I don't know, it says

34:16

entrepreneur Jared Isaacman. conducted the

34:18

first commercial spacewalk. I think

34:21

he might have been, I

34:23

think it might have been

34:25

like his company or something

34:27

though. Sure. Mm-hmm. But you

34:29

still, uh, but probably. Oh

34:31

yeah, yeah. But I'm just

34:33

saying, you know, I don't

34:35

think like, uh, money bought

34:38

this, being the first in

34:40

this case. I think it

34:42

was like, well, this guy

34:44

said, hey, I made this

34:46

thing, I get to do

34:48

it. Yeah. Well, it probably

34:50

didn't make it, but. But

34:52

it's crazy because it's just

34:55

like a capsule and everybody

34:57

has to put on their

34:59

space suits Because there's no

35:01

airlock or anything and then

35:03

they go all right like

35:05

we'll depressurize everything and now

35:07

we'll open up the door

35:10

and then they open up

35:12

the door and everybody just

35:14

kind of one at a

35:16

time got to go out

35:18

like up to their waist

35:20

and Man, I'm just up

35:22

to their waist Yeah Sure.

35:25

Just kind of stick half your

35:27

body out into space? My question

35:30

is why? Why would you do

35:32

that? And hey, maybe this is

35:34

me being cynical or too cool.

35:36

But like, it just seems like

35:39

not worth the risk. Tim's top

35:41

regret to 2025. Ah, she has

35:43

stuck half my body out that

35:45

space capsule and everybody else is

35:48

doing it. I shouldn't have gone

35:50

into that, uh... Tim Can that

35:52

was trying to go see by

35:54

Titanic. I mean. these are much

35:57

different things than this is way

35:59

way safer I mean I'm sure

36:01

by no means like safe safe

36:04

but a lot safer than that

36:06

that Titanic sub maybe I don't

36:08

know no they are you can

36:10

just read about it and it

36:13

it mean it costs a lot

36:15

more money to make these things

36:17

and they've they've exploded less often

36:19

yeah Well this is why I've

36:22

long said this time I'm way

36:24

more afraid of under the sea

36:26

than I am of the space.

36:28

Mm. Because of the creatures? Does

36:31

of the creatures? Because of the

36:33

pressure? Mm. And space you don't

36:35

like, there's no pressure at all.

36:37

So you're like, oh I've got

36:40

on Easy Street, no press. Exactly.

36:42

Just take it easy up there.

36:44

Relax. And then the other space

36:46

story this is one I hadn't

36:49

really been following but I kept

36:51

like hearing about on the news

36:53

but I guess it fell into

36:55

that like category of this doesn't

36:58

really affect me so I don't

37:00

care that the there are two

37:02

astronauts stuck on the space station.

37:04

Oh yeah. But I didn't realize

37:07

that I think they're they're technically

37:09

Boeing employees. Yeah bad year for

37:11

Boeing. And let me tell you

37:13

Dave Barry took note of that

37:16

and his company is up. They

37:18

flew up in a Boeing Starliner

37:20

capsule for a round trip that

37:22

was supposed to last just over

37:25

a week. But they've been stuck

37:27

for close to a year now.

37:29

Yeah, they don't have the ability

37:31

to like... there's no like airlock

37:34

system right we've been saying airlock

37:36

to that but like there's no

37:38

way to send something up there

37:40

and like get them from where

37:43

they are onto something that can

37:45

get them back to earth oh

37:47

is that what the Yeah. Oh.

37:49

Yeah, all right. Well, they should

37:52

have thought about that before they

37:54

went up there. That stinks. Have

37:56

they got mad yet? No, but

37:58

I did see like one picture

38:01

of at least like the woman

38:03

that it looks like she, you

38:05

know, over the course of, I

38:07

don't know, nine months or whatever

38:10

it's been. lost like a tremendous

38:12

amount of weight and this was

38:14

not somebody you know this is

38:16

an astronaut this is somebody who

38:19

is like already in good shape

38:21

to begin with right and just

38:23

like I don't know looked a

38:25

lot older I feel like her

38:28

hair like all went gray or

38:30

whatever and that's had to be

38:32

like no that picture that's fine

38:34

that's normal that's that's what somebody

38:37

who's happy to be in space

38:39

looks like that's the like has

38:41

been talking about this story, like

38:43

it's some like whimsical thing. It's

38:46

the most terrifying thing. I feel

38:48

so horrible for these people. Hey,

38:50

it's like, it's a modern day,

38:52

Gilligan's Island is what it is.

38:55

It really is. They thought they

38:57

were going on a three-hour tour.

38:59

Yeah. But being in space, like,

39:01

they are, do they have like

39:04

a... an estimate of when they're

39:06

going to be able to get

39:08

them? I think that there is

39:10

supposed to be a like SpaceX

39:13

capsule going up soon to get

39:15

them. Right. Because it sounds like

39:17

that was basically a like, you

39:19

know, that's a real embarrassment for

39:22

Boeing that a different company has

39:24

to go save their employees. So

39:26

I think maybe they've been trying

39:28

to. you know, be like, no,

39:31

no, no, no, we don't need

39:33

to do that. Just five more

39:35

minutes, let's keep working on our

39:37

capsule. And they said privatizing space

39:40

travel would end in disaster. We're

39:42

now, yeah, yeah,

39:44

they've just got

39:46

two employees stuck

39:49

at a space

39:51

station. They're probably

39:53

like, we're not

39:55

gonna pay you

39:58

for this time. we're

40:00

not gonna pay you for

40:02

said no more

40:04

work from home.

40:07

You guys haven't

40:09

been to the

40:11

office. you guys haven't been to

40:13

the but yeah, yeah, the, and I'm sure

40:16

and I'm sure this was the

40:18

kind of thing where they went

40:20

through all the worst case

40:22

scenarios. case scenarios, like was never this, like bunch

40:24

of things went wrong. wrong. I'm sure

40:26

it was never was never like, yeah, if I

40:28

I mean, if the rocket doesn't work,

40:30

we'll come back in a year

40:32

and get you. a I'm sure there

40:34

were other there were that for one reason

40:36

or another did not go through.

40:38

At some point. go through. At some point, and

40:40

I'm would you have shot yourself up

40:42

into space? have shot yourself off I

40:44

would have just opened up the thing just

40:47

like up the thing it for me. like,

40:49

that's it for thought you meant

40:51

you meant me wait for a year. Oh no,

40:53

you would go up there and

40:55

it out. it out? You? But,

40:57

God damn it, the Boeing won't do

41:00

it. Would you have shot yourself off into

41:02

space? I'm like, what? I don't have

41:04

the ability to shoot myself off into

41:06

whole time if you

41:08

thought it was just you

41:10

didn't want to just because

41:13

you were stuck up there for

41:15

a year, you'd be like, okay, stuck

41:17

this. for the door. be like, okay, I'm up

41:19

with this. I've would be on the door. I

41:21

don't want to die to And

41:23

I know that like, I probably good

41:25

to it's probably good to like bed surrounded

41:27

by your loved ones. But

41:29

wouldn't it be cool to just ones.

41:31

But up into space and just pop?

41:34

just like go up into space and just

41:36

you just kind of freeze.

41:38

though you just kind that. Okay,

41:40

you do that? conscious for probably

41:42

at least a minute. at

41:44

least a All right. All right. I I

41:47

don't know. I think that

41:49

would probably be pretty terrifying. be pretty

41:51

terrified. I think I'd probably just

41:53

keep waiting for them

41:55

to come get me back

41:57

them come get me back before I shot myself.

42:00

I bet that's also part of

42:02

the screening for astronauts that they

42:04

make sure that the first time

42:07

of trouble you're not gonna open

42:09

up the fucking door and kill

42:11

everyone. We don't figure out a

42:14

way to make it just myself

42:16

ideally. Because it's not like... They've

42:18

seen what the good idea it

42:21

is and follow me out, right?

42:23

Like, what are they in? Like,

42:25

how big is the station? pretty

42:28

small. It's probably the size of

42:30

like a couple of cargo vans

42:32

tied together. Yeah. Oh no, I

42:35

just assumed myself off in the

42:37

space. Fruit is or pop or

42:39

whatever is going to happen to

42:42

me. It's going to happen. I,

42:44

well, I mean, if there's no

42:47

airlock, they can't shoot themselves unless

42:49

they both decide to shoot themselves

42:51

into space. There is an airlock.

42:54

I don't know. Yeah, you've been

42:56

lying? Didn't you have been holding

42:58

out this whole time? You should

43:01

call NASA, call Boeing. There is

43:03

an airlock. I designed it with

43:05

a secret airlock in mind. No,

43:08

I think it was a matter

43:10

of like they couldn't connect to

43:12

the airlock or something with the

43:15

other thing. Well, I think. I

43:17

think you were thinking of interstellar.

43:19

I think that happens in interstellar.

43:22

Maybe. Yeah, interstellar Tom. Hey, this

43:24

is something that happened in 2024.

43:27

Intersteller had a... There is an

43:29

airlock. I designed it with a

43:31

secret airlock in mind. No, I

43:34

think it was a matter of

43:36

like they couldn't connect to the

43:38

airlock or something with the other

43:41

thing. Well, I think... I think

43:43

you were thinking of interstellar. I

43:45

think that happens in interstellar. Maybe.

43:48

Yeah, interstellar Tom. Hey, this is

43:50

something that happened in 2024. Interstate

43:52

Interstate came out 10 years ago

43:55

and a lot of theaters still

43:57

had their iMacs prints. Oh really?

43:59

They were able to give them

44:02

back? I think they do, but

44:04

I think it's also the kind

44:06

of thing where they're like big

44:09

and heavy, so maybe they're just

44:11

not a, like they're not anxious

44:14

to get them back, or maybe

44:16

I'm wrong, but like the print,

44:18

maybe the theaters didn't have them,

44:21

but the prints still existed. Right.

44:23

So they didn't have to, I

44:25

don't know, maybe they did make

44:28

some new prints, but apparently, like,

44:30

a lot of theaters, they were

44:32

able to just use old prints.

44:35

And it's like, yeah, that's cool.

44:37

They should do stuff like that

44:39

more. Like, you film something in

44:42

IMAX, you go through all this

44:44

trouble, like, yeah, offer the ability

44:46

to see it, because... It's like

44:49

this whole thing was shot in

44:51

IMAX, that's the way you want

44:54

to see it, and if I

44:56

don't see it now, I don't

44:58

know if I'll ever have a

45:01

chance to see it this way.

45:03

Yeah. What's the deal when you

45:05

go to an I-match theater? And

45:08

then it's not even all big

45:10

when you watch it. Yeah, I

45:12

think there is like technical, like

45:15

details that it is like, they

45:17

don't market it as a different

45:19

format, but it is a different

45:22

format. I'm not 100% sure. Because

45:24

what I'm saying is the same

45:26

format, but it's just not a

45:29

big enough screen for it. Yeah,

45:31

I don't know. It's just like,

45:33

I feel like I'm Max movie

45:36

theaters. They're not thinking big enough.

45:38

Ironically. They're, they're, they're like, we

45:41

got these, you know, these big

45:43

movies, right? Like, um, interstellar, Oppenheimer.

45:45

What else is filmed in like

45:48

really big I- Max stuff? I

45:50

have other stuff, right? Yeah, I

45:52

mean like most, yeah, most of

45:55

Chris for Nolan. and stuff. Yeah,

45:57

they should just be showing that

45:59

stuff constantly all the time. And

46:02

then like, it's like, oh, but

46:04

we gotta show like, I don't

46:06

know, some like new Marvel movie

46:09

that isn't even shot in iMacs,

46:11

but we're gonna put it like

46:13

small in the middle of the

46:16

iMac screen. No, don't do that.

46:18

Just show inner stellar again. People

46:21

go see that. Yeah. I should

46:23

run out. I went to. I

46:25

went to, uh, I was telling

46:28

you before I. I can't day

46:30

more than two, two, two, peace

46:32

and, uh, and thanks, permit. And

46:35

they're the two that you mentioned

46:37

earlier. But I should, I should

46:39

run that whole endeavor. Get in

46:42

there day one. Why are we

46:44

showing her stellar? Why aren't we

46:46

showing up an IMER? I

46:49

went and saw No Sporatu

46:51

this past week while I

46:53

was in Pennsylvania. And first

46:55

off, this is the second

46:57

movie I've seen in Pennsylvania,

46:59

I saw Wicked in Pennsylvania

47:02

over Thanksgiving weekend. And I

47:04

don't think they heat the

47:06

movie theaters in Pennsylvania. The

47:08

movie theater both times was

47:10

freezing. They just want to

47:12

juice hot cocoa sales. That

47:14

I mean Tim that's kind

47:16

of what it seemed like

47:18

and also I mean I

47:20

I forget if I told

47:22

you about this off the

47:24

show or not but It

47:26

was also insane because it

47:28

was like a 1030 showing

47:30

and the bar was open

47:32

But also there was a

47:34

sign by the concession stand

47:37

for door dash drivers to

47:39

pick like a designated pickup

47:41

right I was like, what

47:43

on earth? People are ordering,

47:45

what, AMC hot dogs through

47:47

door dash? Like, if you're

47:49

doing... People are depressed. I

47:51

know. But like if you

47:53

do that, like it should

47:55

just send, I don't know,

47:57

an alert to like the

47:59

police station about you instead

48:01

and they should just come

48:03

pick you up and throw

48:05

you in an asylum or

48:07

something. But anyway, when I

48:09

went and saw No Sforatu.

48:12

It's one of these movies

48:14

that sometimes has subtitles when

48:16

people are speaking other languages

48:18

You just didn't learn all

48:20

the I didn't learn all

48:22

the languages before we I

48:24

was I didn't learn all

48:26

the languages because the whole

48:28

movie for the most part

48:30

not the whole movie but

48:32

a lot of it takes

48:34

place in Germany so I

48:36

learned German beforehand so I

48:38

would understand everything that was

48:40

going on But then it

48:42

turned out all the parts

48:44

where they would be speaking

48:47

German, they were speaking English.

48:49

What the heck? Yeah, and

48:51

then I think like, did

48:53

they at least have a

48:55

German accent? No, not even.

48:57

A lot of times say

48:59

English accents. The hell? Yeah.

49:01

And then there were a

49:03

couple of parts with I

49:05

think maybe people speaking Romani

49:07

and that was subtitled. the

49:09

subtitles were cut off they

49:11

were not on the screen

49:13

and I guess somebody went

49:15

I know I guess somebody

49:17

went in there and told

49:20

them to get their shit

49:22

together yeah so I got

49:24

to see them like kind

49:26

of like cycle through the

49:28

modes live during a movie

49:30

right and it was like

49:32

this is the same shit

49:34

as like a PowerPoint projector

49:36

like there's no difference yeah

49:38

what did you think it

49:40

was gonna be like a

49:42

sexier thing I don't know,

49:44

I expect it to be

49:46

like something. I mean, why

49:48

am I not just, you

49:50

know, buying a projector and

49:52

watching things at home? I

49:55

mean, I guess I am

49:57

just watching a lot. things

49:59

at home. I guess I

50:01

do have a 4k TV

50:03

that I watch a lot

50:05

of things on instead of

50:07

going to a movie theater.

50:09

My TV has a big

50:11

splotch in it but I'm

50:13

not gonna do anything about

50:15

it. Did you punch the

50:17

screen or something? I probably

50:19

hid into it at some

50:21

point. Stumbled drunk it to

50:23

it while screaming at somebody

50:25

on the screen. How old

50:27

is your TV? I

50:30

want to say it's about seven

50:32

years old. Yeah, I don't, yeah,

50:35

I don't, I don't really know

50:37

how long TVs are supposed to

50:39

last anymore. Yeah. I say, like,

50:42

probably can't get it fixed. Yeah,

50:44

I should just probably buy a

50:47

new one. I, here's a thing

50:49

to, years ago, I, I, I

50:51

got a Costco membership, just so

50:54

I could get this TV. you

50:56

know it's like the Costco variant

50:59

of a of a you know

51:01

Samsung TV right that like was

51:03

on sale yeah that's how you

51:06

bought it so I bought it

51:08

but I mean I could get

51:10

like a much nicer TV I

51:13

think for like a hundred and

51:15

seventy dollars right oh nowadays yeah

51:18

probably yeah should just do that

51:20

the other thing is I got

51:22

it It's not mounted on my

51:25

wall, but look at that, I

51:27

have a toddler. It's like, uh,

51:30

like, attached to the wall, you

51:32

know, like, there's like, yeah, yeah,

51:34

so it can't get pulled off.

51:37

Yeah, I don't. Yeah, like, you

51:39

can't fall on it. Like, first

51:42

of all, it's so light, it

51:44

wouldn't even hurt them if it

51:46

fell on them. But yeah, I

51:49

don't want to figure out. And

51:51

the secondary reason you've come up

51:54

with is, and it's so blighted.

51:56

wouldn't even heard him if it

51:58

fell on it. If a TV

52:01

nowadays, a flat screen TV, like

52:03

it's not even a big one,

52:06

fell on a three-year-old, it would

52:08

just snap in half and the

52:10

three-year-old would walk away. Yeah, I

52:13

mean, it is, like, as much

52:15

as I want to make fun

52:18

of you for this, like, it

52:20

is, yeah. TV's nowadays are just

52:22

like flexible pieces of plastic. Yeah.

52:25

Thank you. Thank you for time

52:27

making fun of me. Terrible parents.

52:30

Just a guy that wants to

52:32

get a new TV and doesn't

52:34

want to figure out how to

52:37

make it safe. Tom speaking of

52:39

technology. Oh, do you want to

52:41

go ahead? The big tech news

52:44

this year, the big product. took

52:46

the world by storm. Apple's Vision

52:49

Pro came out and quickly adopted

52:51

into every American household and became

52:53

a phenomenon. We're all wearing these

52:56

headsets. You can't walk down the

52:58

street without seeing dozens of people

53:01

wearing them in their day-to-day lives.

53:03

Tom let me ask you this

53:05

as an Apple insider as the...

53:08

Webmaster of Apple insider.com Tom, let

53:10

me ask you this question. Do,

53:13

are they just gonna like abandon

53:15

this? Are they gonna stop working

53:17

on this? And just feel like,

53:20

okay, nobody wants this. I don't

53:22

know. It is interesting, because it's,

53:25

I don't know, like, regardless of

53:27

what anyone wants to say. It's

53:29

a tremendous flop. Yeah. Because. I

53:32

mean who doesn't want to say

53:34

there's like Apple? Yeah yeah well

53:37

Apple and like Apple fanboys and

53:39

media and stuff. Just because like

53:41

apples always had things that are

53:44

ridiculously expensive like just stupid expensive

53:46

but you know and and as

53:49

a result they're like a niche

53:51

thing you know like you know

53:53

a high-end desktop computer that it's

53:56

like well for 99% of people

53:58

that's not a good option for

54:01

you anyway but it was still

54:03

like but for the 1% I

54:05

don't know it's still like a

54:08

oh man but like it's so

54:10

cool like it's an aspirational product

54:13

and this I feel like isn't

54:15

an aspirational product and from what

54:17

I can understand it's not necessarily

54:20

I mean of course the fact

54:22

that it's so expensive is a

54:24

huge part but the biggest part

54:27

is that like it's just not

54:29

comfortable to wear and like you're

54:32

not gonna buy a thing that

54:34

is on that hurts to wear

54:36

all the time for $3,500 that

54:39

like you can't even really do

54:41

anything with. See yeah that's the

54:44

thing I don't think people think

54:46

it's like cool even like oh

54:48

yeah it was really like and

54:51

comfortable to wear like oh imagine

54:53

all the things I could do

54:56

with this. Yeah when when it

54:58

seems like most of the debt

55:00

because they're really I mean it's

55:03

Apple so like Apple's always been

55:05

weird about video games. but they

55:08

seem to like roof be refusing

55:10

to like want anyone to play

55:12

video games on it because I

55:15

think they see that as like

55:17

cheap and childish yeah we're not

55:20

like the meta quest where this

55:22

you get worked on in this

55:24

and it's like nobody but why

55:27

the fuck would you want to

55:29

do work in that why would

55:32

you want to put put on

55:34

a helmet to look at a

55:36

spreadsheet and a web browser All

55:39

these guys. This is the same

55:41

thing as when like, uh, men...

55:44

Facebook or whatever. They went and

55:46

being into the meta verse and

55:48

then like Mark Zuckerberg was like,

55:51

hey everybody who has been working

55:53

from home and hating it and

55:55

having to do everything remote because

55:58

of the pandemic. Don't you want

56:00

your whole life to be this

56:03

for the rest of your life?

56:05

No, no, we don't. And like,

56:07

I think Apple's like, hey, everyone,

56:10

just as everyone's realizing like, like,

56:12

fuck. I gotta get off my,

56:15

I'm on my phone all the

56:17

time and this is rotting my

56:19

brain. They're just like, hey don't

56:22

you want to strap a phone

56:24

to your face all day every

56:27

day and live in your phone?

56:29

And everyone's like, no I don't

56:31

think I do. I want to,

56:34

I want to, I want to

56:36

not look at my phone anymore.

56:39

Put one in my eyes. Yeah,

56:41

jackass. And I think at least

56:43

like meta was smart enough to

56:46

like pivot fairly quickly. like away

56:48

from the metaverse stuff and like

56:51

these Rayban glasses that they have

56:53

are pretty popular and like those

56:55

don't have a screen in them.

56:58

Like it's kind of more about

57:00

the people that like them say

57:03

that it's that like what they

57:05

use it for is basically talking

57:07

to it like telling it to

57:10

either like take a picture or

57:12

something or look something up that

57:15

they're looking at like they don't

57:17

have to take their phone out.

57:19

And even that it's like, okay,

57:22

that's neat and that's like a

57:24

niche product or whatever, like that's

57:27

not something everyone's ever going to

57:29

be into, but that's fine. But

57:31

I think like Apple, they need

57:34

to, they need to figure out

57:36

what's going to, what everybody's going

57:38

to have after an iPhone and

57:41

they have to take big swings,

57:43

but like whatever this is, it's

57:46

just, I don't know, there's just

57:48

not a reason for it. People

57:50

don't, like I went and tried

57:53

one, we did an episode about

57:55

it. And I thought

57:57

it was I thought it was

58:00

cool but I was like this

58:02

isn't this is better than my

58:04

meta quest to but not that

58:07

much better and I don't ever

58:09

used I've just don't use it

58:11

because it's hot and uncomfortable for

58:13

long periods of time and this

58:16

is more on heavier and more

58:18

uncomfortable yeah and even worse than

58:20

that they wouldn't let me stand

58:23

in a part of the store

58:25

that was completely empty at the

58:27

apple store Because that's where people

58:29

would go to demo the Vision

58:32

Pro, even though nobody was scheduled

58:34

to do it. Nobody was there.

58:36

And the rest of the store

58:38

was crowded and I was waiting

58:41

for something. And they made me

58:43

move. So it's just a personal

58:45

thing for you. That's why you

58:48

don't like it. Well, also, I

58:50

mean, I think that's pretty universal.

58:52

I think everybody's on my side

58:54

with this one. Like, why did

58:57

they had to make Tim move

58:59

that time? It's also it's also

59:01

funny because like obviously this is

59:04

like a big push a big

59:06

you know thing for them a

59:08

ton of marketing and everything and

59:10

that feels like two months later

59:13

they were like ah fuck everyone's

59:15

doing AI we got to do

59:17

AI real quick yeah and they

59:20

just kind of forgot about it

59:22

and came out these AI features

59:24

that any 2024 the year of

59:26

AI right Yeah, I mean, I'm

59:29

always gonna remember 2024 is the

59:31

year of hak-tua. Oh boy. Yeah,

59:33

I love that hak-too. You're still,

59:36

you're still, most of your money

59:38

is wrapped up in that coin,

59:40

right? The hak-tua coin? Yeah, I

59:42

don't think of it as wrapped

59:45

up in that coin. I think

59:47

of most of my money is

59:49

hak-to-a coin. Right. Which you believe

59:52

will, will become. the default world

59:54

currency. Yeah, it's just what you're

59:56

gonna use in your day-to-day transactions.

59:58

Yeah. Just like, you know. it'll

1:00:01

replace Bitcoin for what we all

1:00:03

use as our day-to-day transactions for

1:00:05

totally legal things. Yeah, it's not

1:00:08

nearly as funny to use Bitcoin,

1:00:10

but it's very funny to use

1:00:12

talk to a coin, so that

1:00:14

is what I'll be using for

1:00:17

my transactions going forward. Have you

1:00:19

ever bought anything with Bitcoin, Tom?

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1:01:03

Hanks and Robin Wright I

1:01:06

said forest grump again. It's

1:01:08

a forest gumper union. It's

1:01:10

a forest gumper union we've

1:01:13

all been waiting for. And

1:01:15

it's, and guess what? It's

1:01:17

here. Here. A real garbage

1:01:20

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1:01:22

movies I think I've seen.

1:01:24

Hey. What? The man made

1:01:27

back to the future, Tom.

1:01:29

I know. So I know

1:01:31

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1:01:41

have any parting thoughts for

1:01:43

2024? No. Do you have

1:01:45

any predictions for 2025? Oh,

1:01:48

predictions. Hmm. Uh, I think

1:01:50

that that, uh, that hippo,

1:01:52

moodang's gonna. not

1:01:55

be as popular because the hippo is going

1:01:57

to get bigger. No, it's gonna get

1:01:59

and it's just gonna

1:02:01

look like a regular

1:02:03

hippo and people are look

1:02:06

like a regular bigger and love

1:02:08

for it is only

1:02:10

gonna grow it as much. Tom,

1:02:12

as and I think

1:02:14

also bigger, good calling it love

1:02:16

gonna be a only gonna

1:02:19

grow. That, and I think also 2025, I'm

1:02:21

calling it now, is gonna be a brat

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