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Welcome to the conditional release

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program, a podcast that delves

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into the neither world of cults,

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Hoist, for tax purposes. And I'm

0:47

Joe Hill and today we are

0:49

asking the hard questions. Will Bobby

0:51

Kennedy Jr. kill more people than

0:53

Elon Musk? There's a vexed one.

0:56

And which came first? The common

0:58

man or the sobsit? Which reminds

1:00

me of a wonderful Rodriguez cartoon,

1:03

magnificent American cartoonist, where a chicken

1:05

and egg are lying in bed

1:07

together having a post-coital smoke. The

1:09

egg tells the chicken, of course you

1:12

came first, you always come first. Very

1:14

good. And it's that kind of no

1:16

nonsense humor that we're looking at today

1:19

because there is so much to be

1:21

happy about. Measels is back. He's back

1:23

in the US. Thanks to Bobby

1:25

Kennedy Jr. Yeah, he started out killing

1:28

Samoans. Now he's moved up

1:30

to the big league where he's

1:32

killing America's kitties. There are just

1:34

100,000 Samoan children, about 97,000 I

1:36

just found out. While the US

1:38

boasts 73 million kitties. So Bobby

1:41

Jr's got a huge challenge

1:43

to kill as many of them as

1:45

possible and frankly I think he's the

1:47

right name for the job. Absolutely, but

1:49

of course it goes out saying that

1:51

none of this be possible without being.

1:53

You can get it falconying, you can get

1:55

it running a concentration camp for fat

1:58

kids, you can get it killing. child

2:00

from a preventable disease. Matter of fact,

2:02

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2:27

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2:30

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2:32

going into Donald's weird, fucking scammy US

2:34

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2:36

It's settled down a bit, the crypto

2:39

markets. They've been very, very volatile. Mainly

2:41

going downwards in the last couple of

2:43

weeks. Yeah, no, you announced the bloody

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2:48

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3:22

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3:24

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to do. Yes, in the words of

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another bill, this time serial sex pest

3:36

and former Fox News host Bill O'Reilly,

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fuck it! We'll do it live! We'll

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do it live! Fuck it! We'll do

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it live! Now

3:51

I've been saying for some time that

3:53

Bobby Kennedy Jr will kill more people

3:55

that are either a musk. My only

3:57

qualifier is we won't be able to

3:59

do any meaningful death count for... century

4:01

or two. See, cop out for a

4:03

little while. It will take that long

4:05

to determine how many people, children mainly,

4:07

will die as a direct consequence of

4:09

his disgraceful anti-vax advocacy. There is the possibility

4:12

of a return of polio, possibly,

4:14

and definitely measles where a child

4:16

in the United States has died

4:18

from the disease for the first

4:20

time in 10 years. Yeah. Just

4:22

two weeks after his... confirmation is

4:24

health and human services. Secretary Bobby

4:26

Kennedy Jr. has said that a

4:28

measles outbreak has occurred, confirmed that

4:31

on his watch, and the old

4:33

shall, and still won't promote vaccines

4:35

as part of his health advice.

4:37

MBC reports. Little is known about

4:39

the child, besides that they were

4:41

school-age, unvaccinated and lived in an

4:43

area of West Texas with the Mennonite

4:45

community. What are the Mennonites, just to

4:48

the side panel? religious sex? Yeah,

4:50

look a religious sect. I often sort

4:52

of put them in the same place

4:54

as, you know, the sort of Amish,

4:56

I think there's... Okay, because I mean

4:59

they're like the Maronites, but they're very

5:01

different. Yeah, they sound very Amish. A

5:03

little bit different. Yeah, one of the

5:05

Google things is what is the difference

5:07

between Amish and Mennonites. I'm going to

5:10

go with, not much. Yeah, I think it's

5:12

somewhat less prescriptive. Yes,

5:14

Mettonites are less weird

5:16

about electricity. Yeah, and

5:18

they're okay with using buttons.

5:20

Yeah, it seems like a

5:22

pretty good way to get

5:24

around things. Still, not big

5:26

on vaccines, apparently. And as

5:28

the article continues, start the

5:30

detour there, where vaccine refusal

5:32

is among the highest in

5:34

the country. It runs about

5:37

82% in that particular community.

5:39

So they've got 82% vaccinated.

5:41

But, and that's, so they're not

5:43

immediately, you know, they're not

5:45

obviously of, it's like we

5:47

might find in, in Byron

5:49

Bay, for example. Yes, yes.

5:51

We have much lower rates

5:53

of vaccination, childhood vaccination. Yeah,

5:55

they like their, they're sort

5:57

of, you know, what they

5:59

do. in Byron is basically they

6:01

don't vaccinate their children until their

6:03

benefits are threatened and then you

6:05

know facts family tax credits not

6:08

necessarily like New START and then

6:10

they don't tell anyone that they

6:12

vaccinate their children and just sort

6:14

of lie about it in public

6:16

that's what what's really annoying is

6:18

New South Wales Health have taken

6:20

Byron council out of its stats

6:22

or well they've taken them out

6:24

but they've actually pushed them into

6:26

another larger area so it doesn't

6:28

mean we have this you know

6:31

that this obvious difference between vaccination

6:33

rates in Byron Bay and elsewhere

6:35

in Northern Rivers. Yeah interesting interesting

6:37

yeah I think it was an

6:39

administrative thing but it just doesn't

6:41

help us data analysts but anyway

6:43

the CDC before Kennedy got hold

6:45

of it maintains at 95% not

6:47

82 or 92 but 95% or

6:49

more MR. MNR vaccination rates are

6:52

required to keep children safe. In

6:54

another administration, the death of this

6:56

child and the growing outbreak that

6:58

has sickened more than 150 people,

7:00

mainly children across Texas and New

7:02

Mexico and hospitalised 20, would likely

7:04

have been met with urgent calls

7:06

from the President and Health Secretary

7:08

for Parents in Texas and beyond

7:10

to vaccinate their children. The measles

7:12

mumps and rebella vaccine is safe.

7:15

Well studied and the only effective

7:17

method of preventing an illness that

7:19

can cause a high fever, pneumonia

7:21

and in rare cases brain swelling

7:23

that is disabling or fatal. This

7:25

is still from the NBC article

7:27

I might say. So what did

7:29

Antivax Kennedy say about the outbreak

7:31

and the death of the unvaccinated

7:33

child? Sweet fuck all as it

7:36

turns out. Including a few lies.

7:38

Give him to us Joe. I'm

7:40

not doing the voice. This is

7:42

him. We are following the measles

7:44

epidemic every day Kennedy said. adding

7:46

that, incidentally, there have been four

7:48

measles outbreaks this year! Sorry, this

7:50

is good as I'm getting. That's

7:52

pretty good. Yeah, that was right.

7:54

And this country last year there

7:56

was 16. So it's not unusual.

7:59

We have measles outbreaks every year.

8:01

Why do you realize it? So

8:03

nothing to see here, you know,

8:05

fucking fraud. Kennedy then said that

8:07

hospitalized children were there mainly for

8:09

quarantine. That's a great quote. An

8:11

assertion swiftly dismissed by the chief

8:13

medical officer at the Lubbock Children's

8:15

Hospital where they, where all those

8:17

20 hospitalized victims are being treated,

8:20

not victims, but sufferers. And they

8:22

were all admitted due to having

8:24

difficulty breathing. Hospitals don't do quarantine.

8:26

I mean, you know, they can

8:28

do it on a one-on-one basis,

8:30

but they're not going to do

8:32

it in an outbreak like this.

8:34

No, it's ridiculous thing to say,

8:36

and it's very similar to the

8:38

fact that, like, Bobby Kennedy just

8:40

lies. And, you know, might be

8:43

calling Bobby Kennedy, I know he's

8:45

Bobby Jr. It's just, I'm lazy

8:47

in Australian, we're calling Bobby Junior.

8:49

With the whole Samoa thing he

8:51

said in the Senate confirmation that

8:53

the samples went to New Zealand

8:55

for testing and it wasn't measles

8:57

They didn't know it was killing

8:59

the kids and the Samoa health

9:01

minister at the time has come

9:04

out absolutely scathing and just said

9:06

no, it's fucking bullshit broke. You

9:08

fucking came over with a bunch

9:10

of anti-vaxes and fucking measles killed

9:12

the kids Put the hard word

9:14

on the president of Samoa and

9:16

bit by bit through advocacy in

9:18

Samoa vaccination rates dropped to I

9:20

think they got down to around

9:22

60% yeah so this is the

9:24

thing he just lies and then

9:27

you'll have an official come out

9:29

later and say he just lied

9:31

he just lied about that he

9:33

just lied about it and that

9:35

was that and that's it and

9:37

but no one gives a fuck

9:39

because he's already said it Yeah,

9:42

well the next day after the

9:44

announcement of the death the Center

9:46

for Disease Control and Prevention posted

9:48

a statement on his website offering

9:51

condolences for the child who died

9:53

and outlining ways it was supporting

9:55

Texas and New Mexico health agencies

9:57

as the state. led the on-ground

9:59

response. Give me that statement, Joe.

10:02

The CDC statement included a line

10:04

on vaccines as, quote, the best

10:06

defense against measles infection, but did

10:08

not urge the public to get

10:10

vaccinated. And the day after that

10:13

Kennedy posted a similar note to

10:15

his official ex-account, concluding, quote, ending

10:17

the measles outbreak is a top

10:19

priority for me and my extraordinary

10:21

team at HHS. and look at

10:24

it is obvious that the child

10:26

will be alive now if it

10:28

weren't for Bobby Junior's antibiotics advocacy

10:30

through the Children's Defense League and

10:32

measles was considered eradicated in the

10:35

United States in 2000 which means

10:37

there was a year without any

10:39

cases reported now I just want

10:41

to break away just for a

10:44

moment Joe and the CDC reported

10:46

I think some 50 cases of

10:48

measles in that year so if

10:50

you do look the stats up

10:52

listeners that's what you'll find but

10:55

those 50 people were essentially Travelers

10:57

coming into the United States. Yeah,

10:59

yeah, that's a thing. And when

11:01

you've got very high rates of

11:03

vaccination, it just doesn't matter. No.

11:06

So anyway, a bit of history

11:08

here, the MMR vaccine was first

11:10

licensed. for use in 1971. The

11:12

CDC reported 27,000 cases of measles

11:14

in the United States in 1989.

11:17

Ten years later there were just

11:19

141. Most of those infections coming

11:21

from overseas travellers, as I said

11:23

before, and in 2000 measles was

11:25

declared eradicated in the United States.

11:28

And there were cases as I

11:30

said before, but no more measles.

11:32

as an infectious disease. Hooray! At

11:34

an end, an end to one

11:36

of the most infectious diseases that

11:39

kills children or blinds them. Measle's

11:41

infection basically puts the immune system

11:43

on hold. It's not some child,

11:45

it's not just a harmless childhood

11:47

illness. It's extremely nasty. It's not

11:50

benign. During that period of infection,

11:52

your immune system is basically put

11:54

on hold, you know, your immune

11:56

system. you know the issue for

11:59

those infected especially those on vaccinate

12:01

is a subsequent infection including up

12:03

a respiratory tract infections we heard

12:05

the doctor before at the clinic

12:07

saying or at the hospital saying

12:10

those children were were admitted because

12:12

they had breathing difficulties in rare

12:14

cases and that's around a one

12:16

in 10,000 measles infection sort of

12:18

is linked to encephalitis. and can

12:21

cause further serious health issues up

12:23

to 30 years after measles infection.

12:25

That's fucking crazy. I didn't expect.

12:27

Now it's one in 10,000 so

12:29

it's a fairly, it's a bit

12:32

of a lottery there, but the

12:34

more measles you have, the more

12:36

likely that will be the case.

12:38

I would buy a lottery ticket

12:40

if the odds were to one

12:43

in 10,000. I would buy that

12:45

ticket. Yeah, well there is that

12:47

old line, if anyone ever, if

12:49

you're 10,000 to one, you take

12:51

it. Yeah, Kevin. But, so these

12:54

are the sorts of, you know,

12:56

childhood illnesses, infant mortality, you're looking

12:58

at. And of course, this is

13:00

of no moment to the Charlotte

13:02

and Bobby Jr. And what should

13:05

be catching his eye, but won't,

13:07

is the instance of measles recorded

13:09

in the last decade, which shows

13:11

measles. He's back largely due to

13:13

his anti-vax rhetoric bullshit. Totally. Yeah,

13:16

100%. So in 2011 there were

13:18

220 cases of measles in the

13:20

US and by 2018 that had

13:22

risen to 382 cases. It's a

13:25

big country. It's pretty small. 2019

13:27

saw the largest number of measles

13:29

infections since 1990 with more than

13:31

1,200 infections and then followed those

13:33

sort of COVID years where infection

13:36

rates were low, which you make

13:38

sense because the prevention measures in

13:40

place for... other diseases like measles.

13:42

But then in 2024 the infections

13:44

grew again to 42 and we

13:47

are at 165 cases and counting

13:49

in the present year. It's only

13:51

going to go up. And on

13:53

the same day the child died

13:55

in Texas the Children's Defense... website

13:58

included a story that measles infection

14:00

was not a danger and then

14:02

infection was good for the old

14:04

immune system. Classic. Then they had

14:06

the temerity to suggest the current

14:09

outbreak in West Texas was a

14:11

direct result of the vaccine itself.

14:13

There you go. These fucking idiots

14:15

and they always had to make

14:17

these outlandish dumb shit claims because

14:20

the logical answer is so obvious

14:22

to people. Get your children vaccinated.

14:24

Don't listen to scumbag lawyers who

14:26

make their living from suing vaccine

14:28

manufacturers. Follow the money. Yeah, I guess

14:31

it must be said that

14:33

Kennedy has no management or

14:35

oversight role with the Children's

14:37

Defense League anymore. How? But

14:39

that was that was the line

14:41

they ran on the day

14:43

the kid on the day

14:45

that young child died. It's

14:47

just amazing. Here's another little

14:49

stat from all but one

14:51

of the hospitalised children were

14:53

unvaccinated. Yep. And the outbreak

14:56

is expected to grow.

14:58

I listened to a

15:00

PhD student in infectious

15:02

diseases. She sends out

15:04

a message is on

15:06

Instagram, gives updates on

15:08

measles, influenza, about 50,000

15:10

people in the United

15:13

States currently being affected

15:15

by influenza, been a

15:17

nasty year. And of

15:19

course Kennedy is refusing

15:21

to advocate influenza vaccines.

15:23

No, apparently they've canceled the

15:25

meeting to choose the strains

15:27

to vaccinate. Yeah, the flu season is

15:29

going to be the worst because they're

15:32

not going to have an adequate flu

15:34

response because of some half-cocked idea that

15:36

flu shots are going to turn you

15:38

into a fucking reptile. Look, I throw

15:40

this away. I know we've got a

15:43

lot of doctors and a lot of

15:45

health workers who are listening. Please let

15:47

us know. I mean, what,

15:49

you know, the bits that

15:51

I have been reading about

15:54

H5 in one and it's,

15:56

potential virus breakdowns can cause

15:58

all sorts of problems. I

16:00

mean like massive pandemic problems. Yeah,

16:02

it's all out. But we're certainly

16:04

seeing that H5N1 jump. But anyway,

16:06

this rather lovely helpful woman on

16:08

Instagram, she's sort of recording as

16:10

best she can. She used to

16:12

work almost in close collaboration with

16:14

the CDC, but that's not possible

16:16

anymore. No. So she eats out

16:18

whatever information she can get from.

16:20

from her mates in the CDC

16:22

but nothing official. Fuckin' Morse Code

16:24

in the basement or something. And

16:26

so yeah, just in relation to

16:28

this measles outbreak, you've got, they

16:31

know of at least one infected

16:33

person who's made his way or

16:35

his or her way to San

16:37

Antonio, which is a city of

16:39

1.5 million people in Texas. And

16:41

of course there is, there have

16:43

been infections noted in New Mexico.

16:45

The Mennonite community is in West

16:47

Texas on the border with New

16:49

Mexico. So it's spread that far.

16:51

She's saying she would expect that

16:53

measles outbreak to spread much further.

16:55

Great. Of course we know that

16:57

Kennedy's antibiotics advocacy effectively killed 83

16:59

children in Samoa from measles. Good.

17:01

But he's just calling that a

17:03

good start. He's got a long

17:05

way to go. Mm-hmm. And PS,

17:07

as we record this, Bobby Jr.

17:09

has promoted, limply promoted, the MMR

17:11

vaccine, but added it was a

17:13

personal choice for people to take

17:16

the MMR vaccine or have their

17:18

children take the MMR vaccine. So

17:20

really, no change there. Fuck off,

17:22

Bobby. Oh, totally. I mean, like,

17:24

you can just imagine all the

17:26

fucking systems he's dismantling in the

17:28

background to make it more difficult

17:30

to get, and also continuing the

17:32

propaganda machine that basically says, it's

17:34

a personal choice, but I wouldn't

17:36

do it because you're going to

17:38

turn your kid into a fucking

17:40

autistic reptile. What a con. Some

17:42

of the stuff you said about

17:44

the flu vaccine, you know. your

17:46

your Bobby June is getting better

17:48

that was getting better yeah I've

17:50

seen a lot of comics doing

17:52

it now and you see that

17:54

he really sort of stumbles over

17:56

words while he's got that well

17:58

he's got that voice as well

18:01

so you got to do that

18:03

but yeah so he's you know

18:05

he said I would never have

18:07

an influenza vaccine so there's just

18:09

no advocacy while they've got you

18:11

know a pretty big influenza season

18:13

yeah I'm not sure they're coming

18:15

to an end fairly significant numbers

18:17

50,000 infected yeah and just no

18:19

instruction from the most senior, and

18:21

this is laughable in itself, the

18:23

most senior health administrator in the

18:25

country. It's mental. And look, it

18:27

wouldn't surprise me if there was

18:29

a lot of incentive packages and

18:31

things like that from the federal

18:33

government to incentivize organizations to vaccinate

18:35

people. And while I do believe

18:37

that most doctors have good intentions,

18:39

I think a lot of health.

18:41

company managers are piece of shit

18:43

and the thing that they've probably

18:46

been reacting to is some kind

18:48

of federal handout and if that's

18:50

gone well they might just not

18:52

bother freeing up the space for

18:54

the flu shots anymore and if

18:56

that's the case then yeah you

18:58

are going to kill people anyway

19:00

well worse than that too they're

19:02

going to clutch on as Kennedy

19:04

has always done Bobby Jr. They're

19:06

going to they're going to grasp

19:08

at these studies that most of

19:10

them are poorly poorly run if

19:12

not retracted. Yeah and he's going

19:14

to cite them and he's going

19:16

to say all right well we

19:18

need to do more work into

19:20

the polio vaccine for example. I

19:22

believe one of the studies he

19:24

mentioned in his Senate confirmation several

19:26

times was retracted like fucking yongs

19:28

ago, but he just cites it.

19:31

And like, unless you've got, this

19:33

is the thing that Randall and

19:35

his law thing, it's so much

19:37

harder to refute bullshit when someone's

19:39

they're happy to just lie through

19:41

their teeth. Honestly, I think his

19:43

little croaky voice is a fucking

19:45

great veil for the fact that

19:47

he can just lie, because you

19:49

can be like, I didn't say

19:51

that, I didn't, blah, blah, blah,

19:53

blah, blah. And you can just.

19:55

ultimate power not just in the

19:57

HHS but also through the tools

19:59

to help depends on his other

20:01

platforms. Fuck that guy! I hate

20:03

him so much. Fuck that guy,

20:05

Bobby Jr. All right, well, yeah,

20:07

he is well on track, I

20:09

think, to kill more people that

20:11

eat a lot of musk. Comparative.

20:13

We won't be able to do

20:16

the body count for 150 years

20:18

or so. Yeah, they're cop-outless. But

20:20

I'm sure I'm right about this.

20:22

Well, I think Elon Musk is

20:24

going to have a lot to

20:26

answer for. Anyway, anyway, think about

20:28

all the people that he's had

20:30

like, like, like, like, like, like,

20:32

like, just, just, just, just, withdrawn,

20:34

withdrawn from. in fucking Africa through

20:36

USA. Just gone. There's no more

20:38

age drugs. That's right. That's that.

20:40

You're just dead now. And if

20:42

you're pregnant, your child now has

20:44

AIDS. Congratulations. It's a 50 million

20:46

dollars worth of condoms in Gaza

20:48

that we're actually going to Madagascar

20:50

as AIDS prevention. They're not there

20:52

anymore. Yep. Everyone's getting AIDS. Anyway,

20:54

fun times. On to the next

20:56

bit. Yes, the very next bit.

20:58

The cows have fucking masks on.

21:01

Everybody is up for the hydrant.

21:03

If they deserve it. If they

21:05

deserve it, if they hang, they

21:07

will hang. Rise up Australia. Men

21:09

of Australia, time to step up

21:11

and be real men. Protect your

21:13

kids or go down biggest cows.

21:15

This country has ever seen. Hang

21:17

down on. World News has been

21:19

a bit overwhelming and rather depressing

21:21

recently. Musk is actively destroying the

21:23

US public service. pre-public teenagers. Trump

21:25

is destroying the post-World War II

21:27

order with a raccoon apparently. Betfair

21:29

has the liberals winning the next

21:31

election $2.50 to $1.65. I think

21:33

those odds have actually widened since

21:35

yesterday. Yeah, I thought it was

21:37

about $2.30. Yes, I yeah. No,

21:39

no, I think it's more. Betfair's

21:41

better than sports, but you might

21:43

be looking at that one though.

21:46

Yeah, and look, that is obviously

21:48

formed government. I'm not sure the

21:50

book is fully understand. Can I

21:52

quickly explain how that would work?

21:54

Yeah, let's do it. Because I

21:56

don't think this is going to

21:58

happen. In the event where neither

22:00

major party got to the 76C.

22:02

majority, you need 76, that'll give

22:04

you 75 in the floor because

22:06

you'll need to appoint a

22:08

speaker. Anyway, if neither side

22:11

can get to the majority,

22:13

then even if this will

22:15

change if Labour got about

22:18

60 low 60s and and

22:20

the coalition will let's

22:22

say 72. But if they were

22:25

around about the same number,

22:27

labor just a bit behind

22:29

labor just a bit in

22:31

front which is probably more

22:33

likely than not then what

22:36

happens constitutionally is the sitting prime

22:38

minister goes to the governor

22:40

general and the governor general

22:42

says can you form a

22:45

government and the sitting prime

22:47

minister says yes so the opposition

22:49

leader has has no role in

22:51

it unless the leader or the

22:53

the the sitting prime minister says

22:55

no I can't but it's not

22:57

very likely it's not gonna be

23:00

a hostile crossbench and the

23:02

crossbench will be basically

23:04

independence no there may be a

23:07

few weird independence thrown in that

23:09

we can't really see but labor

23:11

would absolutely get and would have

23:13

to absolutely get spanked on around

23:15

sort of 60-60-60-60-162 seats anything higher

23:17

than that then they will be

23:19

asked to form a government and

23:21

unless the mass are completely gone

23:23

they'll give it a try. So

23:25

they would be the next sworn

23:27

in government that's what I'm saying

23:29

of the bookies. You don't understand

23:32

how this works. You don't know

23:34

how hard it is not to

23:36

put $8,000 on this election because I

23:38

think this is a fucking slam dunk

23:40

and the odds are in saying. It's

23:42

very difficult for me. Yes, you probably

23:44

should leave it alone otherwise. We would have

23:46

to say of you Joel that

23:49

you had not learned anything. No,

23:51

and a lot of my friends

23:53

pitched in to give me not

23:55

$8,000, but a couple to say

23:57

that here's some money, never gamble

23:59

again. at that and so you have

24:01

to want to let you have to

24:04

want to let Joe fuck it's the

24:06

odds of bullshit anyway as I sort

24:08

of just said in the young the

24:10

further bit of the script which was

24:12

going to go on to say that

24:14

yes I really want to bet on

24:17

those odds because I think they're bullshit

24:19

and I think you're great I just

24:21

really and I also just don't think

24:23

like election's going to go like that

24:25

I think everyone's pissy with elbow but

24:27

at the very last minute they're going

24:30

to look at Timu Trump and just

24:32

go I don't want Just enter price

24:34

and gin or Reinhart just mainly the

24:36

public sector. The fuck are you talking

24:38

about? I'm voting fucking. I think the

24:41

Greens are going to clean up a

24:43

few contentious seats and I think it

24:45

depends. They're going to have a great

24:47

time. And I'm very surprised to see

24:49

that Cook has haven't mobilised this election,

24:51

which means that I just don't think

24:54

it's going to be a big cooker

24:56

influence. I would have thought that a

24:58

lot of people. It seems like the

25:00

minor right wing parties have sort of

25:02

sort of... more or less got their

25:04

act together. They're quite quiet though. It

25:07

is quite quiet. We're not seeing a

25:09

lot of the advanced stuff. I've seen

25:11

a little bit of it. In fact,

25:13

in these events... In some unwelcome news

25:15

Joe, from ADHD. Yes. They've just purchased

25:17

Channel 7 Tasmania. The fuck? No, no.

25:20

How is that legal? Oh my God.

25:22

Well, it's a it's just a private

25:24

private company purchasing it, but yeah, it'll

25:26

be very interesting to see how that

25:28

pans out. Oh my god, we're gonna

25:31

be seeing fucking Sky News, Sky News,

25:33

Sky News, ADHDV, letters from a schoolboy,

25:35

Part One, ADHDV, Sky News, Sky News,

25:37

can I leave that in? Like I

25:39

mean, come on, it's true, right? Maybe

25:41

Ralph, for Alan Jones, there. Yeah, well,

25:44

that's his, that's his, that's his company,

25:46

isn't his company, isn't his company, isn't

25:48

his company, isn't. You know, a young

25:50

conservative guy, I'm just trying to think

25:52

of his name, but spend a bit

25:54

of time in the UK, came back

25:57

and started this sort of low-level media

25:59

company, he's got a few bucks. I

26:01

bet he's an in-sell Macfock unfuckable. I

26:03

don't know, what would you buy Channel

26:05

7 Tasmania for? I mean, you know,

26:08

pill Tasmanians. It won't be a lot

26:10

of money. Well, yeah, it's a lot

26:12

of influence. Very Elon Musk. Yeah, very

26:14

sad and weird kind of level. Anyway,

26:16

look, I'm going to say, as a

26:18

bit of a pizza, even domestic cook

26:21

at them has been pretty depressing. I

26:23

mean, we always said that after the

26:25

pandemic, a lot of cookers were going

26:27

to get bored and give up, and

26:29

that kind of happened, really. A lot

26:31

of them sort of vanished. And I

26:34

must say like in retrospect on this,

26:36

this kind of had a bit of

26:38

a fracture because Bozy lost his relevance

26:40

after daring to take on guru about

26:42

that pancake money, which the Timfall Tales

26:44

girls covered very well. We saw a

26:47

bit of a power vacuum take place

26:49

in the movement. And the thing about

26:51

power vacuums is they usually filled by

26:53

things or people worse than what was

26:55

there before. Generally speaking. Yeah, generally speaking

26:58

Afghanistan, you know, there's a pattern here.

27:00

So. We now have a cooker movement

27:02

which has had a power vacuum that

27:04

has been clearly co-opted by actual Nazis.

27:06

So we always said there was me

27:08

a pretty solid cook in a Nazi

27:11

pipeline. You got all these idiots like

27:13

fucking El Salzone going, oh, I've saw

27:15

this movie called You Rope with a

27:17

great battle. It was only 12 hours

27:19

and I loved it. How the fuck

27:21

you can get through 12 hours of

27:24

a documentary and be that fucking pointless

27:26

and stupid, I don't understand. But it's

27:28

all these brainwashing instruments that have turned

27:30

these people into fucking Holocaust and annoying

27:32

Nazis. But trying to keep their new

27:35

interest in World War II a bit

27:37

quiet was one of their priorities in

27:39

life. You know, just tone it down,

27:41

don't mention the war. Well, I guess

27:43

after Elon Musk went mask off, and

27:45

admittedly sometime before that, people have been

27:48

feeling pretty fucking galvanized and quite comfortable

27:50

making... obvious Nazi dog whistles in public.

27:52

Quite a lot of it going on.

27:54

It's not great. So look, taking Cook

27:56

seriously is not our game, so I'm

27:58

not going to worry about that. They

28:01

are, generally speaking, not serious people. That's

28:03

what's funny about them. They are funny.

28:05

Nazis are Asia's problem, if you want...

28:07

serious commentary. Tom Tanneke's over there, he's

28:09

doing great work. Let's see what our

28:11

favorite dip-shit clown mother-fuckers are up to

28:14

now. Yeah, so let's kick off cooker

28:16

update with some good news. Davo Niggs

28:18

has been banned from Instagram. Aw. Aw.

28:20

Now to be honest, I actually didn't

28:22

know that Davo Niggs is on Instagram.

28:25

I don't use it, I don't use

28:27

it, I fucking hate it. I said

28:29

like those 10 messages, I'm like, oh

28:31

shit, I should probably look at them.

28:33

But didn't Mark Zuckerberg just come out

28:35

in favor of sort of free speech

28:38

and all that shit? Like isn't comedy

28:40

legal again or something? I don't know.

28:42

Yeah, I wouldn't have a look. I've

28:44

never seen on leagues pop up in

28:46

any of my reals, but... because I'd

28:48

remember it but I went looking there's

28:51

a number of onyx counts that are

28:53

still alive there's one that's dead and

28:55

I presume it's that one but there

28:57

are a number there's a number of

28:59

parody it counts too and and and there

29:02

are a couple you know that that seem

29:04

it seemed like onyx and when you read

29:06

into him we go on that's not onyx

29:08

at all no yes I guess he has

29:10

been given the flick oh that's very sad

29:13

Well, look, it's not an official flick, he

29:15

has 180 days to appeal. I imagine he'd

29:17

be busy at work typing out his appeal

29:19

in Crayon, but he might not lose the

29:22

entire account, we don't know. But he is

29:24

moaning about losing the content, of course, because,

29:26

you know, as well, as what about beloved

29:28

shit posted comment on it, he actually has

29:31

180 days to download that content to

29:33

his computer. He's just moaning. He's not

29:35

sad to lose the content, he's sad

29:37

to lose the attention. Like, he's the

29:39

fucking crybaby, just, just, just get

29:41

a job. Just get a job. Honestly,

29:43

just get job. You are a qualified tradesman.

29:45

I think you're a chippy. One

29:48

of our one of our listeners

29:50

posted posted him talking about Ukraine.

29:52

I mean, whenever he talks geopolitics,

29:54

you just feel like slapping him.

29:56

But there he was, you know,

29:58

sort of pro. Russian beat again,

30:01

you know. Yeah, no, he's very

30:03

much on the pro-Russian thing. They've

30:05

really galvanized around Trump on this

30:07

one, and it's really cringe. It's

30:09

just that, it's a thing of

30:11

thinking that you're counterculture and thinking

30:13

that you're sort of budding against

30:15

something, but you're actually just an

30:18

embarrassing gullible freedom advocates who get

30:20

into bed with an autocrat. I

30:22

mean, it just doesn't make any

30:24

sense to you. It's so good.

30:26

Imagine all those Melbourne protests, all

30:28

those camera protests in Russia. They

30:30

would have been shot, not with

30:32

robot, real bullets. The guys first.

30:34

These fucking idiots. But that's all

30:37

very fun and I'm going to

30:39

have to go a little bit

30:41

dark here because in other unique

30:43

news, which is far more concerning,

30:45

he has been sproaking a barley

30:47

development with webinars featuring Jay McIntyre,

30:49

who for some reason, we can

30:51

explain this later I'm sure, is

30:54

going by the name of Jamie

30:56

Mac. Do you think that might

30:58

be because when you search a

31:00

Jamie McIntyre the first results are

31:02

terms like serial scammer, con man,

31:04

evasive witness, they come up? Is

31:06

that, do you think that could

31:08

be why he's calling some Jamie

31:11

Mac? Either that or he's just

31:13

gone casual, you know? Yeah, just

31:15

call me, just call me Mac.

31:17

Yeah, no, like, Elon Musk has

31:19

brought t-shirts and Jane's back to

31:21

the White House. I think Jamie

31:23

Mac's got a real point here.

31:25

He's on trend and I love

31:27

that about him. Look, on the

31:30

conditional release program we like to

31:32

hear both sides, we like to

31:34

air things out. So according to

31:36

Ethan Lee from the Tech Billion

31:38

website, Jamie McIntyre is... Empowering Australians

31:40

through Bali, real estate investment. Oh

31:42

this sounds golden already, Joe. Isn't

31:44

that good? And there's an article

31:47

he posted in May 2024 and

31:49

it claims this... Jamie McIntyre, he

31:51

wasn't a bit young to be

31:53

James Mac by then, but he

31:55

was Jamie McIntyre, is the founder

31:57

of over 12 companies. 12! Count

31:59

them! The turnover in excess of

32:01

60 million dollars annually. My God.

32:03

He's a freak, he's a business,

32:06

freak, he's a genius! To be

32:08

fair, he is a freak, because

32:10

he's got a lot of fingers

32:12

and a lot of pies. None

32:14

of those pies have apple in

32:16

them, they are full of sawdust.

32:18

So this might come as a

32:20

surprise to Asick, who banned him

32:23

from company directorships and giving financial

32:25

advice for 10 years in 2016.

32:27

Oh, I like it. Maybe Jamie

32:29

McIntyre can but Jamie McIntyre can't.

32:31

Jamie McIntyre is his straw man,

32:33

so that is fair. You just

32:35

got to leave that shit aside

32:37

and just move on. So, this

32:40

was due to his involvement in

32:42

a land banking scheme in Victoria

32:44

which saw over a hundred investors

32:46

lose $7 million on developments that

32:48

were never completed under a managed

32:50

investment scheme that was never registered.

32:52

Good. Yeah. As he's matured, I

32:54

hope Jamie Mac has learned from

32:56

this. Yes, he's evolved like a

32:59

butterfly. No reference. So if all

33:01

this sounds like a PR puff,

33:03

well it might be a hint

33:05

that our author Ethan Lee at

33:07

TechBillion holds a prestigious journalistic title

33:09

of content marketer. Oh, that sounds

33:11

so much better than journalist. And

33:13

as look, I said I wanted

33:16

to air out both sides. Jamie

33:18

told Fairfax in 2016 that he

33:20

was the victim of a witch

33:22

hunt. I think it's nine media

33:24

now job, but in 2016 it

33:26

might have been Fairfax, but he

33:28

told presumably the Herald. I'm a

33:30

victim of a witch, it's a

33:32

fantastic, if you ever get nailed

33:35

for anything, that's what you, that's

33:37

your first line of defense. But

33:39

it's also 2016, which means that

33:41

like... you know assuming it was

33:43

early in 2016 and Trump hadn't

33:45

done the witch hunt. Maybe Trump

33:47

got witch hunt from Jay Mac.

33:49

At this stage the federal court

33:52

had not determined perhaps hadn't determined

33:54

that he that he not be

33:56

a company director or give financial

33:58

advice for 10 years. Yeah well

34:00

maybe pretrial. Maybe, either way, witch

34:02

hunt. So the technical article also

34:04

claims this. The 21st century group

34:06

has grown to be one of

34:08

the largest financial education resources in

34:11

Australia. It's a limited field. But

34:13

anyway, this is an unfortunate situation

34:15

for the actual 21st century property

34:17

group, which is a completely different

34:19

company unrelated to Jamie Mac. You

34:21

would have seen 21st century. There's

34:23

a whole, I think it's a

34:25

franchise job. No, no, this is

34:27

a different, a much smaller organization

34:29

that basically does the same thing

34:31

as Jamie McIntyre does, but not

34:33

scamming. Right. Like all these articles

34:35

now have these clarification at the bottom saying.

34:38

This is not us. We have this business

34:40

name, it's attached to this ACM. Please do

34:42

not call us Jamie Mac. Please do not

34:44

assume that we are scamming because we're kind

34:46

of doing the same, because like, not

34:49

the same thing obviously, God, they seem

34:51

very litigious, but like they're developers, they're

34:53

probably developers, you know, it's a fucking,

34:55

probably group, whatever. An important differentiation of

34:58

mine here, Joe, very good. Yes. Well,

35:00

I mean, they don't deserve what. is

35:02

coming to them as a result of

35:04

this fucking guy. So even so, look,

35:07

the 21st century group companies tech building

35:09

reports were liquidated by courts. Ouch. So

35:11

he's not allowed to give financial advice

35:13

yet, he runs some sort of

35:15

financial education resources thing through this,

35:18

but it's a group that he's

35:20

not really meant to be calling

35:22

group because that's the Sydney company,

35:24

but the 21st century property company,

35:26

21st century education, these apparently were

35:28

part of a Gilbert property investment

35:30

scheme which was misleading and deceptive.

35:32

They're legal words and breached financial advice

35:34

laws. Hmm. Yes, it would be hard

35:37

to see how you could do anything

35:39

else. I'm going to say, just go

35:41

out and leave, that no prospectus was

35:43

issued. Yeah, well, look, I wouldn't be

35:45

surprised there was a very glossy

35:47

PDF because this guy is prolific.

35:50

But not containing the gear that

35:52

you need to make a financial

35:54

decision. True, true. And look, let's

35:56

face it, 21st financial education, we're

35:59

also providing... financial advice at a

36:01

license. So you can see a

36:03

pattern here, you know, doesn't like

36:05

licenses or responsibility or legitimacy or

36:07

anyway. So Jamie's also dabbled in

36:09

cryptocurrency. Not surprising. Yeah, funny about

36:11

that. Yeah, so he's launched the

36:13

truth coin. Oh yeah, I like

36:15

it already. Someone else has already

36:17

done that. How much are they,

36:19

Joe? How much are they? Yeah,

36:21

I don't think it's actually listed

36:23

anymore. I went looking on exchanges

36:25

and I couldn't find it. There

36:27

is a fart. There is a

36:30

fart. There is a fart coin.

36:32

Yeah, I think fart coin got

36:34

rug pulled and that sort of,

36:36

you know, went nowhere, which is

36:38

a real shame. But yeah, look,

36:40

this is a cryptocurrency on the

36:42

polygon. Polygon blockchain and basically it's

36:44

just like a weird thing like

36:46

it's sort of like he says

36:48

it gives you entitlements to the

36:50

education 21st Central education lots of

36:52

stuff. Cryptocurrence you can sometimes give

36:54

you these like entitlements and you

36:56

sort of buy a membership into

36:58

something but the great thing that

37:00

really backs is truth book social.

37:02

Now this is important because we

37:04

don't have an uncensored social media

37:06

platform. We need one. Truthbook.social is

37:08

the answer. The issue with Truthbook.social

37:10

is it doesn't resolve a DNS,

37:12

so it's just not- So don't

37:15

sign up yet? Don't sign up

37:17

yet to Truthbook Social? No, it's

37:19

non-existent. And also, yes, Truth coin

37:21

is worth 0.0. I know right

37:23

like at one point it was

37:25

worth seven cents at its maximum

37:27

well done guys anyway very very

37:29

similar to our next next con

37:31

artist but keep going Joe so

37:33

look he also has a truth

37:35

look.com which is a search engine

37:37

that gives you unsented results I

37:39

typed and Jamie McIntyre into that

37:41

and I just got getting result

37:43

and the spinning wheels never went

37:45

away. No, Jamie Mac, haven't heard

37:47

of him. No, no, I'm still

37:49

waiting on that one. So that's

37:51

cool. I was wondering what he

37:53

would say about himself and he

37:55

had nothing to say. So how

37:57

is it that he's hooked up

38:00

with this bike, Joe? Come on.

38:02

Well, this is the thing, right?

38:04

So it's like a Bali development

38:06

that he's doing. Asick, really need

38:08

to know about it. And I'm

38:10

really need to know about it.

38:12

throw them a line, that's fine.

38:14

And basically I'm guessing Enix is

38:16

trying to get people to invest

38:18

in this and take a commission.

38:20

That's the only thing I can

38:22

come up with. I have not

38:24

watched the webinars. The Timfall Tales

38:26

Girls would have watched the webinars.

38:28

That's what they do. And they

38:30

actually find this stuff out. And

38:32

then they come back and report

38:34

it because they are better at

38:36

this than I am. If you're

38:38

going to run something that's not

38:40

on the up and up and

38:42

up. Make sure you don't say

38:45

things with records attached. Hold webinars.

38:47

Tell people stuffing closed doors. And

38:49

if someone is insane enough to

38:51

actually bother to attend this and

38:53

take notes, then yeah, maybe you're

38:55

fucked. And maybe we should be

38:57

doing that. Maybe someone should be

38:59

doing that. But maybe Essex should

39:01

be anyway. So. Look, I'm not

39:03

calling. Busy boys and actually, I'm

39:05

going to tell you, but anyway.

39:07

Yeah, but this one's bad. Lots

39:09

to keep them busy. This should

39:11

be a straight girl, please. This

39:13

has got the red lights and

39:15

the siren screaming. It really does.

39:17

I think this guy should be

39:19

in jail. But if it was

39:21

the United States, we could say

39:23

that. You know, Elon could just

39:25

have him put in jail. Yes

39:27

well. Oh no, I think he's

39:30

like a process here. We have

39:32

a process here jail. Oh no,

39:34

I think he was changing... Perception

39:36

of innocence and all that kind

39:38

of thing. I believe a prosecution

39:40

could be successful, but look, okay,

39:42

look, I reverse, allegedly, allegedly, I

39:44

am not calling Jamie McIntyre as

39:46

your comment. Others have done so?

39:48

Others obviously can have. would not

39:50

do so. But look, if we

39:52

would have got any further than

39:54

this, it'd be full episode. This

39:56

guy is a busy man. I've

39:58

never seen so many fucking logos

40:00

in my life. But the one

40:02

thing I can say is that

40:04

Dave O'Neigs either knows all of

40:06

this and he's fine with it,

40:08

or he really is dumber than

40:10

we thought. It's coin toss, isn't

40:12

it? It's fucking up in the

40:15

air, right? I mean, I really

40:17

don't rate no eggs all that

40:19

highly, so if he's dumber than

40:21

I thought. We are still talking

40:23

about sort of single cell amoeba

40:25

now. Yeah, and look, there is

40:27

a way of finding this out.

40:29

Okay? So, there is a way

40:31

of finding this out. I'm going

40:33

to give you a hint from

40:35

Jamie. I'm sorry, Tech Bullion. But

40:37

of course, they're not the same

40:39

person. Not the same guy. No.

40:41

He didn't just send that. press

40:43

releasing with a hundred dollars and

40:45

call it a day. This is

40:47

from the... So this is from

40:49

Tech Bullion who isn't Jamie Mac

40:51

but probably is. This is from

40:53

the end of the article. Here's

40:55

a hint as to why you

40:57

shouldn't trust Jamie McIntyre. Some people

41:00

have been spreading rumors about him

41:02

and some fake media articles down

41:04

that fake media have been triggering

41:06

around keyword Jamie McIntyre, Jamie McIntyre.

41:08

There is no need to pay

41:10

attention to those articles. Just... Cast

41:12

them from your mind. It's like

41:14

they never ever happen. Nah, don't

41:16

listen to haters mate. Don't listen

41:18

to haters. They're just jealous of

41:20

all the money we're going to

41:22

make in Bali on these investment

41:24

schemes. It definitely work out well

41:26

for everyone. Including you. Go on,

41:28

invest, have fun, tell us how

41:30

you go. He loves to hook

41:32

on to a scam doesn't he

41:34

own eggs? He really does. It's

41:36

just sad. I mean, always the

41:38

brides made never the bride. Like,

41:40

start your own fucking land banking

41:42

scam, spy on this bitch. If

41:45

you get to be involved in

41:47

criminal activity, you may as well

41:49

make some money out of it,

41:51

not 15%! Good lord! But now

41:53

we must turn our attention to

41:55

another domestic cooker update and this

41:57

one is regarding guru. and particularly

41:59

his fight. She isn't pleasant. It's

42:01

never really been pleasant, let's be

42:03

fair, but it's even more unpleasant

42:05

than it was a month ago.

42:07

Well, I mean, look, it used to be

42:09

his lip, right? Now it's his face.

42:11

I mean, like, the lion is starting

42:13

to fucking blur. We saw the big

42:15

man wearing a bandage on his lip

42:17

and seen clearly that he had sought

42:19

medical advice and had that thing cut

42:21

out. That's why you wear the bandage,

42:23

right? Because you just had a surgical

42:25

wound, right? Yeah, it glanced. He's been

42:27

glanced. Well, Dr. Nino was talking to

42:30

William Bay, because he does reach across

42:32

the aisle a lot and he was

42:34

saying, please reach out to guru and

42:36

get him to just get this fucking

42:38

thing done because he's going on. I

42:40

will say when it comes to guru

42:42

we disagree on a few things like

42:44

the Jews and Lesos ability to play

42:46

soccer for example I don't wish harm

42:48

upon the guy and I say Lesos are

42:50

lebos Lesos but I imagine probably

42:52

have issues with most racist issues

42:54

but anyway we'll move on issues

42:57

in the community look we don't

42:59

just sort of agree on that last

43:01

point which is that I don't wish

43:03

harm upon the guy no I wouldn't

43:05

I wouldn't do that either I mean

43:07

he seems to wish harm upon himself

43:09

yeah part of that cult behaviour. He's

43:11

doubling down, that's so damn sure, I

43:14

mean like he's decided. He's a terrible

43:16

cult leader because the cult leader would

43:18

be rushing out and getting medical attention

43:20

right now, professional medical advice. And telling

43:22

others not to. But he is saying,

43:24

oh I'm going to practice what

43:26

I preach. Which is kind of, well

43:29

it's not as disgraceful as the cult

43:31

leader who dashes off with the stolen

43:33

funds and gets the surgery. Everyone else

43:35

drinks a cool aid and he drinks the water.

43:37

That's kind of the way it tends to work.

43:39

So yeah, put on what Captain Bird's eye has

43:42

decided that, uh, the power of prayer is an

43:44

adequate replacement for basic medical assistance and he's gonna

43:46

die by that sword. Yeah, it's gonna come as

43:48

a bit of a disappointment to him. The power

43:50

prayer isn't all that's cracked up to be. No,

43:53

no, oh well. So while we are not doctors

43:55

or medical experts, we accept this, we do have

43:57

a couple on the ship posting, the ship posting,

43:59

and... And the word of the week

44:02

is fungating. Fungating. Is that how you

44:04

say? Fungating, fun! I think fun. Not

44:06

tailgating, but it's fun. Yeah, it's the

44:09

fun version of sort of pus-filled wounds.

44:11

So look, what this means, it apparently

44:13

means the cancer or tumor, which we.

44:16

don't know but we suspect his cancer

44:18

is fine now I suppose. We haven't

44:20

done a biopsy right. Those growing under

44:23

the skin has broken through the service

44:25

of the skin to create a wound

44:27

hence the bandage. But that's not, that's

44:30

much my take. He is a description

44:32

of the condition from Cancer Research UK.

44:34

They put it much more succinctly. Fungating

44:37

tumor is when a tumor that is

44:39

growing under the skin breaks through the

44:41

skin surface and creates a wound. Fungating

44:44

describes what the cancer might look like.

44:46

They can grow in the shape of

44:48

a fungus or a collie flower. Take

44:51

your pick. As the cancer, I'll go

44:53

with the cauliflower. Do you mind if

44:55

I go with the cauliflower? Oh, I

44:58

don't like cauliflower. Can you just, can

45:00

you just, can I have a fungus?

45:02

It's like a button mushroom I think,

45:05

a button mushroom of death. As the

45:07

cancer grows, Cancer Research UK goes on

45:09

to say, it blocks and damages small

45:12

blood vessels, this reduces... the oxygen supply

45:14

to the area. So the skin and

45:16

tissue underneath dies, that becomes necrotic, and

45:19

the wound can become ulcerated and infected.

45:21

It can also have a bad smell.

45:23

Mmm. But you know, I mean guru,

45:26

he's not smelling a bloody roses anyway,

45:28

is he? No, I think there's a

45:30

sort of blend into the sort of

45:33

bouquet of de guru. Decaying smell Bollywood

45:35

and an ass wipe, then an ass

45:37

badly wiped and then the fungating tumours

45:40

kick in. Yeah, yeah, that's pretty much

45:42

it. So, like, look, at least we

45:44

now know for sure that guru believes

45:47

his own bullshit because I tell you

45:49

what, lucky said man, proper cult leader,

45:51

I would have just. fucking gauntlet doctor

45:54

it is sad you know look we

45:56

have to cover it because it's cook

45:58

a thing and it's getting to the

46:01

point where it's really getting quite big

46:03

is not all listen to this program

46:05

but we do not wish him any

46:08

harm and really we just wish mate

46:10

drop the bullshit listen you can just

46:12

skate away with this drop the bullshit

46:15

and get treated just get it done

46:17

mate it's not gonna think less of

46:19

you I mean I actually think more

46:22

of you I mean I actually think

46:24

more of you think more of you

46:26

know a sort of rare handful of

46:29

people who's still listening to your bullshit

46:31

will be affected by this but I'm

46:33

gonna just come out and say Guru

46:36

they're probably not your friends they're not

46:38

your good friends not your mates no

46:40

no I've seen this happen before I've

46:43

seen a friend of mine refuse treatment

46:45

on a tumor that basically consumed his

46:47

neck and I had an answer I

46:50

mean she's been gone for many many

46:52

years but she had a breast cancer

46:54

she had a tumor in her breast

46:57

and she was so ashamed at the

46:59

thought of having to show a male

47:01

doctor her breasts that she'd just let

47:04

her go and she'd go. Oh my

47:06

god that's awful. Yeah my mate was

47:08

just conspiracy theorist and I remember supporting

47:11

him in that anyway it's a real

47:13

dark chat in my life but that's

47:15

fine. Yeah I was quite encouraging of

47:18

his decision not to get treatment. Speaking

47:20

of doctors Joe. health treatments, a good

47:22

friend of the podcast, Dr Billy Bay,

47:25

the victorious Dr William Bay has been

47:27

winning again. Yes. Having once again found

47:29

gainful employment as a GP and

47:31

he doesn't have to ride to and

47:34

from and he's on a bike. No,

47:36

no, he's gamefully employed and gainfully licensed.

47:38

So look, since Billy Bay had an

47:41

actual win in court where opera were

47:43

shown to have completely fucked a follow

47:45

procedure in banning Billy from practicing medicine

47:48

with Brisbane Supreme Court Justice Thomas Bradley

47:50

finding Dr Bay had been subject to

47:52

quote, and failure to afford fair process.

47:55

Ouch! And this is over complaints unrelated

47:57

to his clinical practice and overturning a

47:59

suspension, basically as far as I know

48:02

immediately at that point. He has somewhat

48:04

been able to go back to his

48:06

formal life except for the fact that

48:09

he's basically uninsurable. and really easy to

48:11

Google. And once you Google him, you

48:13

just get Antivax bullshit. He's left a

48:16

little bit of a trial on the

48:18

internet, hasn't he? He has. He's got

48:20

breadcrumbs leading to the gingerbread house of

48:23

fucking Antivax bullshit and weird claims. So

48:25

look, this has led to him not

48:27

being able to hold down a job

48:30

for too long. And by a long,

48:32

I mean, a week, a day. Last

48:34

one, last of a day. It's just

48:37

very sad. He clocks on and he

48:39

clocks off very quickly thereafter. He really,

48:41

really does, yes. And it was, the

48:44

last one was at Mont Health. Yes.

48:46

It always sounds like Victoria Bayce, but

48:48

anyway, maybe not. and he lasted there

48:51

about 24 hours. And this is despite

48:53

Dr. Dordash having yet another win with

48:55

the RACCP, the Royal Australian College of

48:58

General Practitioners, reinstating his membership in a

49:00

firmly worded letter that states they are

49:02

doing this solely due to the Supreme

49:05

Court ruling and that they strongly disagree

49:07

with his views on vaccination. It wasn't

49:09

a nice letter. He also has to

49:12

pay Jews, which is a little bit

49:14

funny since he can't get work, but

49:16

he can get the concession rate, which

49:19

is a casual... it's a grand 980,

49:21

985. 95. For doctors who are registered

49:23

but make less than 150K and practice

49:26

before tax and that's that's our man

49:28

right there. I think we can safely

49:30

assume he falls into that category anyway.

49:33

I think so, I think so. And

49:35

look, he won't have that problem for

49:37

long. Because it appears that opera have

49:40

already received further complaints about his conduct.

49:42

I'm concerned about his conduct as well.

49:44

He's a fucking idiot. Well, if you

49:47

went to a bulk billing clinic in

49:49

Billy Bay, she's sitting across the... there's

49:51

from you. I'd be bailing out fairly

49:54

quickly. Oh, I'm sent. Oh, man. I

49:56

mean, like, you know, there's, yeah. So

49:58

look, it looks like the Victoria's Billy

50:01

Bay is on borrowed time as a

50:03

registered health practitioner and member of the

50:05

RACP, assuming he paid his thousand bucks.

50:08

Yeah, they're not happy about it, are

50:10

they? I mean, yes, with gritted teeth,

50:12

we accept the decision of the Supreme

50:15

Court. Give us a thousand bucks. We

50:17

really want to fry this break. Yeah,

50:19

that did, yeah, I don't think they're

50:22

going to give him a refund either.

50:24

But look, he's going to have to

50:26

keep that door dash rating up to

50:29

keep paying his bills because they've worked

50:31

there by the way, doing excellent work.

50:33

I think he did a thousand deliveries,

50:36

which is pretty good. Fucking Man Mountain

50:38

when it comes to food delivery. He's

50:40

doing great. I don't know why he

50:43

can't do anything with his GP thing.

50:45

He has to get a job. He

50:47

doesn't have a hustle mindset. real sad.

50:50

But look, who knows? Maybe he will

50:52

have another win. He does have God

50:54

on his side after all. So it's

50:57

going to be worth something. It does

50:59

help. Doing great for Guru so far.

51:01

So, yeah. We

51:03

fired you, we sucked you, we

51:05

sucked you, we dismissed you as

51:07

what, as garbage, because that's all

51:09

you are. You're a criminal, you're

51:11

a traitor, and you go to

51:14

the biggest barbecue in history. So

51:16

from Christmas dinner to you are

51:18

the dinner. Thank you, that's what

51:20

I'll go with. On the conditional

51:22

release program we asked the hard

51:24

questions and one brutal question is,

51:26

are Soviets con artists who became

51:28

subsists? Yeah. It's a chicken and

51:30

egg dilemma, but I'm going to

51:32

come out on the chicken side

51:34

when we look at the life

51:36

and crimes of Grant Warren Hudson,

51:38

aka Grant Hilton. Who always comes

51:40

first. You know he always comes

51:42

first. Now we haven't checked Queensland's

51:44

deed poll because you have to

51:46

apply to the Supreme Court. That's

51:48

crazy to me. You actually have

51:50

to apply to the Queensland Supreme

51:52

Court to find out the name.

51:55

If you want to determine if

51:57

a name has been changed according

51:59

to Depot. But I am assuming

52:01

that Grant Warren Hudson's alter ego

52:03

is a little more than an

52:05

alias. Yes, Hilton does sound so

52:07

much better than Hudson after all.

52:09

Grant Hilton. It's very fancy. It's

52:11

like he's been on this party

52:13

circle with Paris Hilton or the

52:15

other one who doesn't party quite

52:17

so much. Yeah, what's her name?

52:19

The other one? Nicole? Nicky? Yeah,

52:21

Nicky, Nicky Hill. Yeah, Nicky Hill.

52:23

Yeah, Nicky, yeah. So he'd be

52:25

hanging with them. That's what he

52:27

wants to get across, you see.

52:29

We are doing quite a lot. We're

52:32

doing some con artists today. This is

52:34

a big one, folks. Yeah, it is

52:36

a big one. We like this one.

52:38

I love this. And it'll take a

52:40

little while to get to the story,

52:43

but a look at Hilton.

52:45

He showcased his convicted fraudster

52:47

Mien in photographs with the

52:50

Dalai Lama. Grant claims the

52:52

Dalai Lama was his mentor

52:54

and has a few anecdotes

52:57

on the wisdom of the

52:59

four-length Dalai and manages to

53:01

photo bomb his way into

53:04

frame with other celebs including

53:06

Sir Richard Branson and Delta

53:08

Goodrie. Did I give out

53:11

that instant tag properly Joe?

53:13

It's at, it's Grant Hilton. At,

53:15

it's Grant Hilton. Yep, yep, that's

53:17

the one. Only a small number

53:19

of followers there, but I suspect

53:21

he's on the way, a way

53:23

up. But anyway. Grand Hilton was

53:25

recently featured in a news.com.a report

53:28

in one of the all too

53:30

familiar episodes of subsits being pulled

53:33

over by the traffic wallopers in

53:35

August last year. In this case,

53:37

in his case it was August

53:40

last year. But very very very

53:42

familiar episodes and news.com.a reports Joe.

53:44

A sovereign citizen has uploaded footage

53:47

of a strange interaction with Queensland

53:49

police who stopped him for driving

53:51

an unregistered vehicle. The man who

53:54

states that his name is Grant Warren

53:56

Hudson in the footage tells police during the

53:58

roadside stop his car is registered under

54:00

international law, not Queensland law. Well,

54:02

here we go. After winding down

54:05

the window, he first hands one

54:07

of the officers a sheet of

54:09

paper and states, quote, you're being

54:11

served with a document for any

54:13

unlawful detainment. He then tells the

54:16

two officers his vehicle is privately

54:18

owned, which is why it didn't

54:20

come up on their registration system,

54:22

and also telling them that his

54:24

car is. in dry dock. Dry

54:27

dock. It runs on land. It's

54:29

not amphibious. No. It's a Kia

54:31

by the way. Not driving around

54:33

a roll or anything. No. It

54:35

would be very wealthy. He just

54:37

chooses to drive that. So you

54:40

would say, just another self-sit with

54:42

dodgy plates, an unregistered vehicle and

54:44

sneering at the cops and who

54:46

have been unfortunate enough to have

54:48

him. to have pulled him over.

54:51

The document handed to the cops

54:53

was the usual so said bullshit

54:55

with a little cherry on the

54:57

top. The cops would be subject

54:59

to fines of $10,000 per hour.

55:02

Oh good for every hour. All

55:04

part they're on presumably. They kept

55:06

him waiting. Bargain. Now the whole

55:08

thing looked performative. I remember looking

55:10

at this and going, in fact,

55:12

he came up on my Instagram

55:15

account. I remember looking at this

55:17

and going, this is way more

55:19

to this guy than would appear

55:21

at face value and we're about

55:23

to show you what that is.

55:26

Yeah. Because that whole thing, that

55:28

whole self-sit episode with the police,

55:30

he filmed it himself. and there's

55:32

sort of, he goes through some

55:34

of his, some of his little

55:37

vids on instar, you'll see it's,

55:39

I think it's his, what looks

55:41

to be his son, I don't

55:43

know that for sure, but he,

55:45

but a, but a, not an

55:48

adult, put it that way, in

55:50

the car, shooting a film. I'm

55:52

not entirely sure that that's the

55:54

right sort of way to bring

55:56

up a child, but anyway. He's

55:58

doing. this sort of sausage to

56:01

promote his business investment services of

56:03

which there are significant me get

56:05

numbers. Anyway Joel, over to you.

56:07

Mm-hmm. So, look, anyway, the whalupers

56:09

are a bit confused at first

56:12

and they dialed into the police

56:14

station and got some instructions and

56:16

then they let the idiot go

56:18

and send him a $1,500 worth

56:20

of fines. First, use permit, use,

56:23

vehicle without number plate attached as

56:25

required on regulation, make, sell or

56:27

possess something that resembles a registration

56:29

certificate. Oh, I like that that's

56:31

a law. That's very funny. driving

56:34

an unregistered, uninsured class 1, 2,

56:36

blah, blah, blah, motor vehicle on

56:38

the road, and use, permit use

56:40

of unregistered four-cylinder or two rotor

56:42

motor vehicle. So basically, just as

56:44

many things they could possibly find.

56:47

Yeah, so the coppers were called

56:49

away. You see this on the

56:51

film. The coppers go, wait a

56:53

minute, what the fuck have I

56:55

got here? What the fuck we

56:58

got here? And so what would

57:00

normally happen is that the car,

57:02

well, certainly a car would be

57:04

tired. Yeah, unregistered, dodgy, dodgy plates,

57:06

you know, it would be towed

57:09

and he'd be asked to get

57:11

out of the vehicle, he'd be

57:13

handed the fines, he could raise

57:15

those in court if he chose

57:17

to, but the vehicle would be

57:19

towed away. But they've come back,

57:22

said they've gone and rung the

57:24

police station and they're going, what

57:26

do we do with this guy?

57:28

And they said, look, just let

57:30

him go and we'll just, you

57:33

know, you've satisfied that the address

57:35

is correct on his that would

57:37

just ping him out some fines

57:39

in the mail. Yeah, that being

57:41

said, I mean, like, I think

57:44

it's correct because when driving away,

57:46

you are uninsured for the life

57:48

of the other. Yeah, that's why

57:50

they toll away. That's right. So

57:52

that's why they, as a rule,

57:55

toll away. Makes sense. I guess

57:57

someone sort of like some old

57:59

senior sergeant back in the cop

58:01

shop's shop's going, ah, it's fucking

58:03

so shit, just get rid of

58:05

him. I'm just about to finish

58:08

my shift and I do not

58:10

want it to not want it

58:12

to be extended by having some

58:14

of these shit bags in my

58:16

police station. Not fucking interested. So

58:19

there is an interesting little chink

58:21

in the army here which is

58:23

that further in the statement Cupol

58:25

announced that a 54-year-old calendar man

58:27

who gave the name not Hilton

58:30

but Grant Warren Hudson to the

58:32

cops that might have been a

58:34

bit of a mistake. There's your

58:36

mistake. Well, it did a mistake.

58:38

And I'll explain why in a

58:41

minute. But a look at Grant

58:43

Hilton's numerous internet personas reveals he's

58:45

a man of many talents. He's

58:47

a director of a company called

58:49

KSTGH. I can see a Grant

58:51

Hilton in there. There might be

58:54

a wife, a spouse, whatever, make

58:56

up the first two initials. K-S-G-H

58:58

International Limited. It's a registered private

59:00

company that remains active according to

59:02

the Australian Business Register. Grant had

59:05

let the K-S-G-H Security domain expire.

59:07

So I've seen the research on

59:09

this and then the domain expired.

59:11

But it's back now. Obviously, just

59:13

a bit of a liquidity issue,

59:16

no doubt. So, happily, we have

59:18

been able to scroll around his

59:20

shop page and can see Grant

59:22

is offering discretionary trust from mere

59:24

10 grand and something called international

59:27

discretionary trust at almost 25,000. Oh,

59:29

casual. Now for those who don't

59:31

know and I had to look

59:33

it up myself the filing fees

59:35

to establish a discretionary trust around

59:37

$4,400. Okay. The remaining eight and

59:40

a half thousand is presumably charged

59:42

for grants immense business advice and

59:44

please just just beg him that

59:46

he's actually going to file. Anyway,

59:48

not only knows what an international

59:51

discretionary trust is but you better

59:53

believe it costs a lot more.

59:55

Or you can just fork out

59:57

$440 for general business advice from

59:59

the man himself. Or for $3,270

1:00:02

for some reason. You know, you

1:00:04

think, look, if you're gonna get

1:00:06

into the marketing, round that up,

1:00:08

you know, 99, some 3,270. $16.95.

1:00:10

So it looks less. Anyway, who

1:00:12

am I? Who am I? Who

1:00:15

am I? Who am I to

1:00:17

question the vast business experience of

1:00:19

Grant Hilton? But for that $3,270,

1:00:21

$17, he can set up a

1:00:23

self-managed super fun for you. Oh,

1:00:26

that's good. Like, if you're going

1:00:28

to set up a self-money, it's

1:00:30

not going to cost you anything.

1:00:32

No, you contact the company and

1:00:34

you give them some cash and

1:00:37

they and they give you that

1:00:39

anyway But that that is why

1:00:41

grand is such an enigma in

1:00:43

the business world Joe. Isn't he

1:00:45

just? So now the 54 year

1:00:48

old Grant Warren Hudson as identified

1:00:50

by Cupole says on one of

1:00:52

his many websites he made 60

1:00:54

million dollars by the time he

1:00:56

was 28 years of age. 60

1:00:58

million? Man must be a genius.

1:01:01

Where's the money made? I guess

1:01:03

that was 26 years ago. By

1:01:05

the time he was 28 years

1:01:07

of age. Where's that gone though?

1:01:09

Maybe he was driving a 60

1:01:12

million dollar kea. Well he was

1:01:14

so if he was 54... in

1:01:16

August of last year when he

1:01:18

got pulled over by the wallopers.

1:01:20

And he made 60 million dollars

1:01:23

by the time he was 28

1:01:25

years of age. Well that, therefore,

1:01:27

Joe, was 26 years ago or

1:01:29

1999. And what was Grant Warren

1:01:31

Hudson doing in 1999? What was

1:01:34

he doing? What was he doing?

1:01:36

Making millions with his freakish business

1:01:38

abilities or hanging with the Del

1:01:40

A to muse on trees falling

1:01:42

in forests? Millions, millions, millions, millions.

1:01:44

No, Grant was in jail. Oh,

1:01:47

that's close though. It's close. We

1:01:49

know this because the Australian Competition

1:01:51

and Consumer website has a number

1:01:53

of entries for Grant, Warren Hudson

1:01:55

by the way, including this one

1:01:58

from July 1999. The full federal

1:02:00

court today dismissed appeal by Gold

1:02:02

Coast businessman Grant Warren Hudson against

1:02:04

his six-month prison sentence. On 7th

1:02:06

May 1999 Hudson was sentenced to

1:02:09

six months jail after he and

1:02:11

his company Gold Star Corporation Proprietary

1:02:13

Limited were found guilty of contempt

1:02:15

of court. Gold Star was also

1:02:17

fined $30,000 in order to pay

1:02:19

the ACCC's costs. Hudson appealed against

1:02:22

his prison sentence arguing that it

1:02:24

was too severe. Apparently it wasn't. No,

1:02:26

yes, well the full federal. Court bench

1:02:28

said that it wasn't subsequently yes. Go

1:02:30

ahead and you did it. You did

1:02:32

a boil. A strong authority. Take it

1:02:34

to the high court, mate. Why not?

1:02:36

It's the vibe. In an earlier proceeding,

1:02:38

Hudson was given a two-month prison sentence

1:02:40

to spend it for two years and

1:02:42

Goldstar was fined $10,000 of breaching and

1:02:45

untaking to the court that they would

1:02:47

not seek payment for unslisted advertising, which

1:02:49

you're going to explain soon. Goldstar and

1:02:51

Hudson were also injunctive from engaging in

1:02:53

this conduct. There you go. See the

1:02:55

issue here is that when the agency

1:02:57

obtained evidence that Goldstar had breached the

1:02:59

injunctions by contacting businesses to demand payment

1:03:01

for advertising they had never ordered, it

1:03:04

took further action against the company to

1:03:06

stop the conduct and he went to

1:03:08

jail over it. What a fucking idiot.

1:03:10

And what So said Grant was doing

1:03:13

26 years earlier and a good deal

1:03:15

beforehand was what is known in the

1:03:17

publishing business as blowing or telefraud. that's

1:03:20

doesn't sound nearly as exciting. I like

1:03:22

great. It had three magazines. If we

1:03:24

put them all together we should

1:03:26

come to what was how much

1:03:28

money how many millions of dollars

1:03:30

did he have? He had 60

1:03:32

million dollars so maybe it's 20

1:03:35

million dollars a title. The first

1:03:37

the first magazine is called the

1:03:39

National Federal State and Local Government

1:03:41

Advertiser. Good. The second one

1:03:43

was the Municipal Trades and

1:03:45

Services Directory. The third was

1:03:47

the Child Abuse Review. What?

1:03:49

The fuck. Oh, he's jumped

1:03:51

on that bandwagon too. The

1:03:53

fuck! And that was even

1:03:55

before it was cool. And so

1:03:57

blowing, or it's much less exciting.

1:04:00

title of telefraud involves someone like

1:04:02

Grant grabbing artwork off the web

1:04:04

for various companies and then publishing

1:04:06

ads in any one of those

1:04:08

three titles we just mentioned and

1:04:10

then send an invoice to the

1:04:12

companies for the cost of the

1:04:14

advertising. You'd be surprised how many

1:04:16

companies would just pay. Because they'll

1:04:19

send the artwork, the clip from

1:04:21

the magazine and they'll just send

1:04:23

the invoice and people will just

1:04:25

sign it. They'll send it to

1:04:27

the council department, the council department

1:04:29

or something. So on every now

1:04:31

and then, generally in small and

1:04:33

medium-sized businesses, by the way, they'll

1:04:35

go, what the fuck is this?

1:04:38

We haven't even spoken of these

1:04:40

clowns and they're sending us $400

1:04:42

bills for a quarter-page ad. And

1:04:44

before you know it, someone smart

1:04:46

enough has said, you know, I'm

1:04:48

going to give the ACCC a

1:04:50

call about this. Good. And then

1:04:52

they got involved. So Grant was

1:04:54

told... was not just told to

1:04:57

stop doing this while the prosecution

1:04:59

was under why, but he was

1:05:01

injuncted. from demanding money from the

1:05:03

so-called advertisers. And he breached the

1:05:05

injunction on numerous occasions and was

1:05:07

convicted of being in contempt of

1:05:09

the federal court and did six

1:05:11

months in a Queensland slammer as

1:05:13

we said before for his trouble.

1:05:16

It's not quite the same narrative

1:05:18

Grant would once said about him

1:05:20

and I've been through his many

1:05:22

many web pages. His story goes

1:05:24

that after making a 60 million

1:05:26

he took some time off to

1:05:28

dwell on the philosophical and spiritual

1:05:30

matters which is a lovely euphemism

1:05:32

for a prison sentence when you

1:05:35

think it is. Very very funny.

1:05:37

It is very very good. Oh,

1:05:39

I just wanted to reflect a

1:05:41

bit. I'm reflecting. Very spiritual. I

1:05:43

just went meditated. And the only

1:05:45

place I could think of meditating

1:05:47

was Silverwater Prison. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

1:05:49

There's a lot of meditating going

1:05:51

on there. And stabbing. Only stabbing,

1:05:54

but a bit of meditating. Yeah,

1:05:56

exactly. Look, you know, two sides

1:05:58

of the same coin. Look, there's

1:06:00

nothing more meditative than a whole

1:06:02

bunch of opiates. a bloody, you

1:06:04

know, in a bed. So the

1:06:06

next time we hear from Grant,

1:06:08

it's 2011, and he is in

1:06:10

all his Hilton glory. Oh, he's

1:06:13

grand helped now. Fresh lick of

1:06:15

paint, knocking around with a celebrity,

1:06:17

a Bollywood celebrity at that, Tanya

1:06:19

Zayeta. Although, to be fair, she

1:06:21

will always be the hot chick

1:06:23

from who dares wins to me.

1:06:25

I tell you what, back in

1:06:27

the day, I used to. I

1:06:30

do remember, but I watch a

1:06:32

lot of. commercial too, please. I

1:06:34

don't remember any of that. I

1:06:36

don't remember any of that. I

1:06:38

do remember who dares wits, but

1:06:40

I don't think it's right. Oh

1:06:42

yeah, she did host with Mike

1:06:44

Whitney. Yeah, like I thought the

1:06:46

test cricket part might like trigger

1:06:49

your, your brain on that was

1:06:51

actually a great show. You know,

1:06:53

like to make you do random

1:06:55

shit like 50 bucks. She basically

1:06:57

did have a Bollywood's Bollywood background,

1:06:59

Ten years, Zayetta, and I'm sure

1:07:01

we're about this. Remember, Ten years

1:07:03

Zayetta, and Grand. Hilton were on

1:07:05

the board of a charity called

1:07:08

Peace for the Children. Oh nice.

1:07:10

Good charity isn't it? Yes. Who

1:07:12

wouldn't want Peace for the Children?

1:07:14

I hope lovely idea. To raise

1:07:16

funds for children living in war

1:07:18

zones. Bring them a bit of

1:07:20

peace. Good. Just the one problem.

1:07:22

The charity was not registered in

1:07:24

Queensland and thus it was and

1:07:27

is an offence to raise funds.

1:07:29

The ABC reported back in 2011

1:07:31

jar. You sound like a hater.

1:07:33

So a court on the Gold

1:07:35

Coast has fined a charity associated

1:07:37

with former Bollywood actor Tanya Zayeta

1:07:39

for collecting funds while not registered

1:07:41

in Queensland. Zayeta and another director

1:07:43

of the Peace for the Children

1:07:46

Charity, 41-year-old Graham Hilton, were charged

1:07:48

after investigation by the Office of

1:07:50

Fair Trading. He was employed guilty

1:07:52

in the South Fort Magistrates Court

1:07:54

to charges of unlawfully applying for

1:07:56

support for an unregistered charity. He

1:07:58

was fined $10, $10,000, and the

1:08:00

charity was fined. $50,000. They're stealing

1:08:02

from children. The government is stealing

1:08:05

from children. I don't think there

1:08:07

was actually 50 large, to begin

1:08:09

with, we'll get on to that.

1:08:11

No conviction was recorded in either

1:08:13

instance. We've already got grant on

1:08:15

the contempt conviction, but can you

1:08:17

say, it's hard to know, just

1:08:19

what a level of involvement was,

1:08:21

but she sat in the board

1:08:24

and she did the wrong thing.

1:08:26

And earlier, the courier mile reported

1:08:28

in the same year, this is

1:08:30

2011, Joel. So former aid worker

1:08:32

and author Kay Danes was invited

1:08:34

to be an ambassador for PCFC

1:08:36

That's peace for the children. That's

1:08:38

peace for the children. That's peace

1:08:40

for the children I bet like

1:08:43

I bet this guy has like

1:08:45

social media posts about Ukraine being

1:08:47

the bad guys who just say

1:08:49

But declined after raising concerns about

1:08:51

its governance was aida and co-directed

1:08:53

grant Hilton quote Another friend has

1:08:55

a charity and if you go

1:08:57

to their governance link online, it

1:09:00

has the names of people on

1:09:02

their board, all the charity details,

1:09:04

the tax details, everything you want

1:09:06

to know, this is Ms. Dane

1:09:08

saying this. Continuing, I sent Tanya

1:09:10

and Grant an email and said,

1:09:12

look, you need to provide this

1:09:14

information, I've got nothing except we

1:09:16

are 100% legal, but there was

1:09:19

definitely not what I'm asking, bro.

1:09:21

But interesting interesting response. So record

1:09:23

show that sovset Grand Hilton registered

1:09:25

as he wasn't a sovset at

1:09:27

the time he'd become a sovset.

1:09:29

I was going to say the

1:09:31

Korea Mail did not call Grand

1:09:33

Hilton a sovset. Don't sue us.

1:09:35

Records show that Grand Hilton resigned

1:09:38

as a director of the bogus

1:09:40

charity in December 2010 but not

1:09:42

before a fundraiser in a gold

1:09:44

close in a gold coach nightclub

1:09:46

that same month. The Curmail goes

1:09:48

on Joe. A December 7th 2010

1:09:50

fundraiser to Gold Close Night Club

1:09:52

where, why can I say that

1:09:54

Gold Coast Night Club, where groups

1:09:57

paid $3,000,000. $1,000 a booth to

1:09:59

mix with the likes of, I

1:10:01

love this, Underbelly Star, Damien Walsh

1:10:03

Howling, who? Warwick Kappa, I'll pay

1:10:05

$3,000 and not to spend time

1:10:07

with you. Jeff Pettic, he actually

1:10:09

turned out to be a cooker,

1:10:11

and Kiahhurst, who is a person.

1:10:13

I don't know. I don't know

1:10:16

who Kyle Hurst is, but all

1:10:18

I can tell you, if you

1:10:20

think Jeff, Jeff, Jeff, Jeff, Fennick,

1:10:22

I should say, being a cooker,

1:10:24

is the worst thing about him,

1:10:26

you don't know too much about

1:10:28

the gang landed in New South

1:10:30

Wales. Yeah, no, I probably shouldn't

1:10:32

say too much, too much, too

1:10:35

much, about the gang landed in

1:10:37

New South Wales. Yeah, no, I

1:10:39

probably shouldn't say too much publicly,

1:10:41

but, he donated, he donated songs,

1:10:43

he donated songs to a C,

1:10:45

to a C, to a C,

1:10:47

to a C, to a C,

1:10:49

that PFTC, that PFTC, PFTC, PFTC,

1:10:51

marketing, marketing, marketing, marketing, marketing, marketing,

1:10:54

marketing, marketing, marketing, to raise, marketing,

1:10:56

to raise, to raise, to raise,

1:10:58

to raise, to raise, to raise,

1:11:00

to raise, to raise, to raise,

1:11:02

to raise, to raise, to raise,

1:11:04

to raise, to raise, to raise

1:11:06

And the group also claims to

1:11:08

have attracted the support of tennis

1:11:10

star Pat Cash. And this is

1:11:13

me adding this. Many listeners will

1:11:15

know is a massive cooker who

1:11:17

went on hoodies fucking buddy live

1:11:19

stream thing with the fucking Kelly

1:11:21

Slater. Cooko! Grant's got the unregistered

1:11:23

charity, he's on the board, he's

1:11:25

actually just resigned, but the function

1:11:27

went ahead. They raised $22,000 from

1:11:29

that event in December on the

1:11:32

Goldie, but only $3,000 was handed

1:11:34

over to two registered charities in

1:11:36

war. The remainder! A mystery! A

1:11:38

mystery! It's gone to a Keier

1:11:40

dealership. Now Grant probably didn't have

1:11:42

to pay his $10,000 fine either,

1:11:44

Joe, for not registering a charity,

1:11:46

as handed down by magistrate because

1:11:49

he was about to go belly

1:11:51

up. He was about to go

1:11:53

bankrupt. He declared bankruptcy in 2011

1:11:55

when his company Slokom Investments was

1:11:57

placed into a liquidation with debts

1:11:59

of $2.6 million. Slokom Investments was...

1:12:01

invested to create, was established I

1:12:03

should say, to create a luxury

1:12:05

retreat for millionaires in Yuki, home

1:12:08

of friend of the podcast Pete

1:12:10

Evans in the Northern New South

1:12:12

West. As far as we can

1:12:14

tell Grant has no association with

1:12:16

Craigie Pete, but his millionaire retreat,

1:12:18

that is Grant Hilton's millionaire retreat,

1:12:20

designed to be full of transcendental

1:12:22

naval gazing, wasn't what it appeared.

1:12:24

He was selling this idea as

1:12:27

his multi-millionaire's retreat. But I've seen

1:12:29

the plans which received a qualified

1:12:31

development approval by the tweet heads

1:12:33

council. So any investment that he

1:12:36

made in the land, and we

1:12:38

don't know enough about that, that

1:12:40

slokum investment, he was the principal

1:12:42

of the company, sold the rector. He

1:12:44

bought the land and Yuki. He got the

1:12:47

DA, so he's actually made money. Yes. You

1:12:49

know, once that DA goes through, then, you

1:12:51

know, that land value goes,

1:12:53

you know, appreciates, appreciates significantly.

1:12:55

Exactly. So I don't know

1:12:57

what happened with a 2.6

1:12:59

million dollars loss. I'm going

1:13:01

to go out in a

1:13:03

limb and suggest that he

1:13:05

was over-subscribed investors. But anyway,

1:13:07

the thing is, as I say,

1:13:09

conceptually this was supposed to

1:13:11

be millionaires retreat, you know,

1:13:14

transcendental reflection, you know, the

1:13:16

sort of reflection that Grant

1:13:18

Hilton did in jail. But

1:13:20

out of jail. I think that

1:13:23

was the way it was

1:13:25

going to go. But I've

1:13:27

seen the plans, I've seen

1:13:29

the plans that was actually,

1:13:31

as I say, the DA

1:13:33

got approved in 2006, a

1:13:35

qualified approval, but it was

1:13:37

a long way, the plans

1:13:40

were a long way from

1:13:42

a millionaire's hostel. It was

1:13:44

said to be, there was

1:13:46

dormitory accommodation. Amazing. He's actually

1:13:48

a millionaire. I love just hunkering in

1:13:50

with fucking people I've never met before.

1:13:52

Can I have a top bunk? Yeah, just

1:13:54

bunking up. Let's do it. Let's do this. Yeah,

1:13:57

dear idea. I'll shiv you for the top bunk.

1:13:59

You can see. Sorry, got his inspiration

1:14:01

from. You're too stressed, man. You

1:14:03

did too stressed. You need to

1:14:05

sit on the lower bunk. But

1:14:07

I did so much good thinking

1:14:09

in the dormitory rooms and silver

1:14:11

water. So marketed as a millionaire's

1:14:13

retreat. The plans, that two huge

1:14:15

big hostile style rooms, and there

1:14:17

were no private bedrooms. Amazing. From

1:14:19

the plans I looked at. Did

1:14:22

they have a toilet? Oh, they

1:14:24

did have toilets. They had to

1:14:26

have, by the toilet heads council,

1:14:28

they had to have car parking

1:14:30

for 29. There were residents objections.

1:14:32

But these were overcome, mainly around

1:14:34

traffic. It's a fairly quiet, a

1:14:36

bit of road, yucky roads. So

1:14:38

they're going to have a million

1:14:40

edges. Just just me down the

1:14:42

world clambering over each other so

1:14:44

you can get on the top

1:14:46

bunk in the you linked me

1:14:48

that they're like we play soccer

1:14:50

on the road we should be

1:14:52

able to play soccer on the

1:14:55

road it's like you shouldn't play

1:14:57

soccer on the road it's like

1:14:59

you shouldn't play soccer on the

1:15:01

road it was a bit of

1:15:03

it was a bit of Nimbism

1:15:05

going on it came to nothing

1:15:07

anyway because Grant had sought investment

1:15:09

and those investors lost precisely two

1:15:11

point six million dollars yeah went

1:15:13

straight to the care dealership And

1:15:15

that's how it's called. So SIT

1:15:17

Grant has busied himself with, the

1:15:19

websites are amazing, they're just design

1:15:21

nightmares, electric supercars, where you get

1:15:23

to design your own super car,

1:15:25

not just buy one in off

1:15:28

the shelf, you get to design

1:15:30

your super car. They do look

1:15:32

pretty cool. They don't look like

1:15:34

they exist, but they look pretty

1:15:36

cool. There's a lot of artists

1:15:38

images there on that website. Yeah,

1:15:40

it's the whole. Yeah, it seems

1:15:42

like a bad idea and it's

1:15:44

kind of, it's electric of course,

1:15:46

and it seems like a bad

1:15:48

idea and is. And he's also

1:15:50

in the solar-powered yacht business, which

1:15:52

is almost certainly another scam. In

1:15:54

another news.com that I you entry,

1:15:56

Grant is seen warding off Queensland

1:15:58

Police's water, water, water squad. when

1:16:01

he sailed into a restricted area

1:16:03

on the goalie, restricted because there

1:16:05

was an air, excuse me, an

1:16:07

air show one at the time.

1:16:09

Yes, yes, it was very sad.

1:16:11

Grant was lapping up the police

1:16:13

attention because, you know, attention's currency

1:16:15

at this point. We're not sure

1:16:17

whether he was fined or not.

1:16:19

God, he should have been. But

1:16:21

he was moaning about his loss

1:16:23

of freedom and he was all

1:16:25

crossed that he couldn't sail around

1:16:27

wherever he pleases. It was, well,

1:16:29

you know, you can see the,

1:16:31

you can see the, you can

1:16:34

see the, the photovoltaic cells in

1:16:36

the background. So this is obviously

1:16:38

one of his boats that, I

1:16:40

mean, yachts have photovoltaic cells. I

1:16:42

mean, this is not unusual. Yeah.

1:16:44

How idea is that they would

1:16:46

have more than that. And therefore,

1:16:48

I don't know. I mean, it

1:16:50

just looks like a scam. No

1:16:52

like, it goes without sayinglessness that

1:16:54

any. You should not give one

1:16:56

single dollar to this clown, let

1:16:58

alone the 25,000 for an international

1:17:00

discretionary fund, whatever the fuck that

1:17:02

is. No, no, absolutely not. This

1:17:04

is just a man who's basically

1:17:07

gone from being a cod artist

1:17:09

to thinking, I don't need to

1:17:11

go on fine rubs. I know

1:17:13

where they live, they're sov sits.

1:17:15

I have this in the bag.

1:17:17

So he's now shooting fish in

1:17:19

a fucking barrel. This is a

1:17:21

serial con artist and I have

1:17:23

no problem saying that, you know,

1:17:25

and if Grant wants to sue,

1:17:27

hey buddy, we'll see you in

1:17:29

court. We'll see you in court,

1:17:31

Champ. And we will make your

1:17:33

career well and truly known. We'll

1:17:35

probably find out a bit more

1:17:37

about you as well. Oh, he's

1:17:40

actually said. I'm going to,

1:17:42

but he's actually said, you know,

1:17:44

with that, with that stunt in

1:17:46

front of the, in front of

1:17:48

the Queensland police and the one

1:17:50

on the, on the, on the

1:17:53

water. He's actually saying, I want

1:17:55

sovscits or those who have contemplated

1:17:57

sovereign citizenry to be my clients.

1:17:59

So this is what he's doing.

1:18:01

He's actually pitching on it. So

1:18:03

we got you Grant or Grant

1:18:06

or Grant Hudson or Grant Hilton.

1:18:08

Whatever your real name is. It

1:18:10

didn't take long. It just didn't,

1:18:12

you know, it took about, it

1:18:14

took about 20 minutes to find

1:18:17

out most of this stuff. You

1:18:19

did a good deep dive. You

1:18:21

pulled up the council things. You

1:18:23

pulled the DA. That's credit credits

1:18:25

due. I saw you working on

1:18:27

this. Well, it's, it's. It looked

1:18:30

like. I just remember being, my

1:18:32

first contact was with Grant Hilton

1:18:34

was this super silliest guy. He's

1:18:36

got this kind of boyish face.

1:18:38

He does bad ways. And just

1:18:40

telling us about how the government

1:18:43

was just, you know, illegal and

1:18:45

all this sort of stuff. And

1:18:47

that was around being pulled over

1:18:49

by the water police. Yeah. And

1:18:51

I just remember thinking, a lot

1:18:53

of the shit you're talking here,

1:18:56

and then I just did a

1:18:58

bit of searching, it really just

1:19:00

didn't take long to expose this

1:19:02

guy as the inveterate con artist

1:19:04

that he is. Most of all,

1:19:06

of course, we've been able to

1:19:09

answer the perennial question, which comes

1:19:11

first? And it's con artist first,

1:19:13

and then you become a self-sit,

1:19:15

and then you want to take

1:19:17

all their money. 100%. And I'm

1:19:19

not saying Jamie McIntyre did this,

1:19:22

I would never say that. Other

1:19:24

people may have said that, but

1:19:26

I would never say that. Well,

1:19:28

it has been a huge week

1:19:30

in Pete Evans. With the disgraced

1:19:33

former celebrity chef, once again using

1:19:35

legacy social media to push his

1:19:37

wacky views on health and medicine.

1:19:39

Oh, telegram. wasn't giving him the

1:19:41

feels. Well, Pete did get the

1:19:43

ass for Instagram. He never really

1:19:46

stopped posting. It's just that nobody

1:19:48

really cared. He had another Instagram

1:19:50

account. This is... for his Evolve

1:19:52

network, which he's just decided to

1:19:54

rename to Chef Pete Evans, because

1:19:56

apparently Mark Zuckerberg is now a

1:19:59

crusader of truth and freedom. Of

1:20:01

course, someone should probably tell David

1:20:03

Exett, who just got his marching

1:20:05

orders from Meta, as we just

1:20:07

mentioned, swings and roundabouts, my friend.

1:20:09

Unfortunately, your chemtrails are. to Camtrell

1:20:12

for Marking Mark with his nice

1:20:14

new perm. Anyway, so look this

1:20:16

is of course a newsworthy event

1:20:18

and yes I do grasp the

1:20:20

irony of lampooning others for writing

1:20:22

a pointless article on Pete Evans.

1:20:25

Some of the desperate shit we've

1:20:27

used to keep this fucking segment

1:20:29

alive is just embarrassing. But the

1:20:31

City Morning Herald which is meant

1:20:33

to be respected Marshead couldn't help

1:20:35

themselves and ran this article. He

1:20:38

was banned from social media so

1:20:40

how come. Chef Pete Evans is

1:20:42

back. Good question! Easy answer, he's

1:20:44

not. I don't think he actually

1:20:46

wants to be, to be honest.

1:20:48

From my estimate, he's made a

1:20:51

fuckload of money on Bitcoin, which

1:20:53

I'm sure he hasn't sold, but

1:20:55

he could do it any time

1:20:57

if he needed to. His food

1:20:59

retreats, including the ones without food,

1:21:02

were making him something like $300,000

1:21:04

a year. Now his boy, the

1:21:06

HHS secretary, you know, Bobby Jr.

1:21:08

He can just sort of sit

1:21:10

back and smile as children die

1:21:12

by the hand of his friend

1:21:15

of his friend in the US.

1:21:17

Just watch, what fun. Popcorn, he

1:21:19

likes popcorn, it's all a movie.

1:21:21

It's all a movie watching other

1:21:23

people's children die. Anyway, he's also

1:21:25

made a return to the legacy

1:21:28

media. I know how much you

1:21:30

love that term. This is featuring

1:21:32

in New Dawn magazine, which... New

1:21:34

Dawn magazine? Legacy Media mate, it's

1:21:36

legacy media, it's paper, comes out

1:21:38

news agents, legacy. Not heard of

1:21:41

that one. The irony. Well, that's

1:21:43

the thing. So most of you

1:21:45

heard of Nexus Magazine. You haven't

1:21:47

heard New Dawn because New Dawn

1:21:49

is like, sort of, sort of,

1:21:51

um, underachieving cousin. But look, he's

1:21:54

got an exclusive interview in there,

1:21:56

an exclusive interview. It is titled

1:21:58

on the front page. return of

1:22:00

Pete Evans why health is the

1:22:02

ultimate act of rebellion. Wow, okay,

1:22:05

cool. So it's a bit sad when

1:22:07

eating kale smoothie with a fucking spoon

1:22:09

is considered counterculture. But this is where

1:22:11

we're at. This is where we're at

1:22:14

now guys. I can see what New

1:22:16

Dawn is all about now. I thought

1:22:18

it was like a new women's weekly,

1:22:20

but it is, well, according to its

1:22:23

own fluff. The world's most unusual magazine.

1:22:25

It is unusual, it is basically the

1:22:27

less serious cousin of Nexus magazine published

1:22:29

by the same person, an old friend

1:22:31

who I don't think likes me much

1:22:34

these days. So look, you know, shout

1:22:36

out to Ben who's probably listening as well,

1:22:38

who was made to Duncan, it is edited

1:22:40

by Duncan Rhodes, who is the Nexus magazine

1:22:43

editor. It's pretty much the same thing. It

1:22:45

just has less people like reading it. Oh

1:22:47

my God. Oh my god, I'm just looking

1:22:49

at their rubbish. Okay. Less interesting mailing lists.

1:22:52

You know, Nexus I believe has Dan Acrode

1:22:54

on the mailing list, whereas this probably doesn't.

1:22:56

But look, this is a sad thing. Nexus?

1:22:58

I used to read Nexus. We had a

1:23:01

lifetime subscription through Duncan. They just sent them

1:23:03

out and I used to read them on

1:23:05

the toilet. This is part of my... Cooker Journey

1:23:07

here. This is my Cooker Bible. New Dawn, we

1:23:10

didn't get St. New Dawn though, despite the

1:23:12

fact that it did exist. But look, they're the

1:23:14

same sort of thing. It's just a sad thing

1:23:16

is now they are full blown Margaret mouthpieces where

1:23:18

Pete had a small part on the front

1:23:20

cover. It was Ella Musk and Trump as the

1:23:23

main feature, which is just charming. Whereas back in

1:23:25

the day, it used to be all like mystical

1:23:27

shit with aliens and stuff. Now this is just

1:23:29

dumb. But look, this is the thing. I

1:23:31

like to think that you just play to your

1:23:34

crowd. And you know, you think, okay, Cook

1:23:36

is like Marga, let's go with

1:23:38

this. I've seen some posts from

1:23:40

Duncan Rhodes that suggests he actually

1:23:42

believes this bullshit, which is so

1:23:44

embarrassing. I used to think he

1:23:46

was smart. My mistake, whoops, oh

1:23:48

well, but look, it's not about

1:23:50

Duncan. We're not even about who

1:23:53

Duncan is. It's Pete, Pete is

1:23:55

back, he's back. If you consider

1:23:57

changing his Instagram music.

1:24:00

name to be back. Yeah he's

1:24:02

back. I get. What? Okay. He

1:24:04

was also in an interview in

1:24:06

a magazine which is read by

1:24:08

about 60 people. Good, good. I'd

1:24:10

say we probably have more listeners

1:24:12

than anyway. So still look the

1:24:14

only way up is from here.

1:24:16

Kyle Sandelans uncanseled him a while

1:24:18

ago which did absolutely nothing to

1:24:20

rehabilitate his image because I mean

1:24:22

you don't want Kyle Sandelans to

1:24:24

endorse you to be honest and

1:24:26

according to Sid and Waring Herald

1:24:28

Peace an interview on 2GB with

1:24:30

Lucy Zellick in the afternoon shift

1:24:33

called his Nazi cartoon an innocent

1:24:35

meme. Yeah interesting. A bit of

1:24:37

a bit of an innocent, an

1:24:39

innocent, what is it, a son

1:24:41

and Rand? Son of Rand. Son

1:24:43

of Rand. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. A

1:24:45

bit of an innocent sort of

1:24:47

an innocent sort of a simple.

1:24:49

Don't we all make that mistake

1:24:51

every now and then? Get tattooed

1:24:53

on our forards? Yeah, I mean

1:24:55

what really happened in the 40s?

1:24:57

Let's talk about it. No, let's

1:24:59

not. We learned it in high

1:25:01

school. But the reality is Pete

1:25:03

doesn't need to be back and

1:25:06

I know you're going to hate

1:25:08

this guy's. I don't want to

1:25:10

end on a sad note, but

1:25:12

he's happy. He's like most of

1:25:14

the worst people on earth are

1:25:16

winning. Just... hanging out being fabulously

1:25:18

wealthy empowered by the client of

1:25:20

the U.S. Empire on the back

1:25:22

of pseudoscience and sanitation is bullshit,

1:25:24

his mate Bobby Kay, of which

1:25:26

he's probably inspired some. Well he

1:25:28

just sits on telegram posting screenshots

1:25:30

of people like Victor Orban, I'm

1:25:32

not kidding, that like just no

1:25:34

commentary. Just Victor Orban praising Trump.

1:25:37

Fuck me. He's just able to

1:25:39

go mask off now. He lives

1:25:41

on his lovely property. He's able

1:25:43

to continue posting these recipes made

1:25:45

with prohibitive ingredients that only rich

1:25:47

people can make because that is

1:25:49

just what nature intended. Just nature.

1:25:51

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