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Today are in
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our show! We are
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counting down our 10
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favorite films from the
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era of the
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countdown, which is to
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say the last almost
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10 years. That's
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right. Pet it,
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Polly. Welcome
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to episode 497 of the countdown. Wayne
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is my name. My name is Paul.
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Welcome to show we count down stuff
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in order of awesome. You don't have
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to. Today's stuff is film, which has
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been the heart and soul of the
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podcast. Hell yeah. It's not the last
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topic as we move to the end
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of the weekly show this fourth last
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episode in the format. We've been
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almost weekly. Not so is it every
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week forever. We've missed three or
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four weeks now over the course of
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the last nine. and two third years,
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but mostly relatively, you know. 497 Wayne,
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this is the episode, the fourth
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last, as I just said, and the
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third last topic about film. That's
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right. Now, this goes back to March
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2015, which is when we launched the
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podcast in any film made before that.
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Now last week, those regulars in
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the show will know. The wane
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had some trouble. I had no
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trouble coming to the spiritual brief.
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If the show was on while
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we were recording, it's all good.
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I had no problem.
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Paul had some problem. He's
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like, whatever it's like came
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out the week after we
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started. Completely fine. One thousand
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percent of the show. And
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everyone else is like, shut up
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your ass, Paul. Did you spend on this
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list? Did you know it all at the back
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of your hand? Was it straightforward? Are you going
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to piss me off today? Lots of questions there.
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Take your time. Sure. Look, if I don't piss
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you off today, I'm going to be pissed on
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it. So that's one thing. But in terms of
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the harder part about it was narrowing it down.
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Okay, because we've done so. So much shit. There's
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movies. Oh no, that's not hard to narrow down.
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No, that's not enough. Exactly. But like the, like
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for example, someone, I know this won't be on
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your list. It's not on mine list. I can't
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wait for Wayne to put in the man from
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Michael. It's not on my list. It's not on
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my list. It's not on my list. It's not
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on my list. It's not on my list. It's
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not on my list. It's not on my list
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because it came out. It's because it came out.
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It came out. It came out. Yes it did
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August 2nd 2015 okay all right let's but the
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reason I didn't do is because there's so many
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here that I'm like oh let's just talk about
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some of the stuff that we have talked about
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before but I'm trying to keep an interesting so
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yes difficult to know you're fine I want to
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leave out your phone I want no I give
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a shit if I've spoken about this film about
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this film before because of all films that we've
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reviewed at some point for another and therefore would
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have been like a top 10 films of the
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top 10 films of the top 10 films of
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the year films of the year films of the
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year films of the year films of the year
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films of the year. Not at all? No, no,
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the only thing, the only difficulty was deciding the
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order of where they should fall. Oh yeah, that
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was pretty quickly had 12 films and then I
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sort of, you know, I get out one of
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these spaces, I know that one of the spaces
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that obviously formed my honourable mentions, but yeah, I
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got, I got honourable mentions like an MF. Yeah,
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absolutely. All right, then look, without any further ado,
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we, because there's no one wrote to talk to
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us, no one to talk to us, no one
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to be read to be read out on, on
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the read out on the read out on, on
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the read out on the read out on the
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read out on the read out on the read
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out on the read out on the read out
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on the, on the read out on the, on
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the, on the, on the, on the, on the,
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on the, on the, on the, on the, on
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the, on the, on the, on the, on the,
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on the, on the, More chances. Exactly. This just
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holds us up. All right, then we'll get into
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it, right? And of course we get that way
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these days by me officially announcing the opening of
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the show. Oh, here we are. Let's go. No,
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you do it. You go. The top 10 films
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of the countdown hero! See, that's fine. No fucking
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or anything else. Sorry. The, uh, Reverb. Reverb slash,
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what do you call, echo, next time I'll do
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a lot more echo instead of just that of
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just that one. Damn it. Damn it. Why don't
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you tell me? That's it. Delay. Let us away
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this week. I think I let off last week.
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Okay, good, because I got a bit of a
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fucking bombshell. Oh, here we go. All right. Now,
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first of all, Paul, it's from 2020. So please
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suck my cock. Let's look at me. Let me
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get this straight. You expect to be sucked, suck,
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because you actually stayed on roof. I mean, whatever.
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Yeah, I mean, there's no time I'm not going
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to say that. So sure. I'm taking crazy pills.
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Okay. But here's where you abruptly stop fucking. I
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guarantee you, that never turns out. Way,
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it's, wait. Job is for Coxocters.com, which
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guys, exactly. Okay, check it out. This
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is number 10 on my list, because
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I actually do rag on it a
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lot, but Paul, I've seen it, I'm
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sure, 12 times. Okay. Tenet? Tenet? I
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don't understand you, I thought you hated.
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I know, but I keep. I'm watching
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it, Paul, and you know why? I
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figured it out. Yes, I figured it
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out, okay? This motherfucker right here. I
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know, look, I'm surprised as anyone, okay?
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But here it is, the reason I
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put it down here. No one is...
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Bich, I'm surprised. I'm surprised. I'm surprised.
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More surprised than you are. I'm surprised.
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It's because I have I know every
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inch in this film I've seen every
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video every pull every fucking like you
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know mother fucking breakdown of the movie
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and the truth is the matter is
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even though the count doesn't make sense
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and I will stand on that hill
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and down it It doesn't really make
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any fucking sense. And no one can
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actually watch it and go. I know
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absolutely everything that went on in there.
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Some people claim to, but they're lying
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because a lot of this shit doesn't
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make a lot of sense. But it
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is so enthralling as a visual spectacle
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that and the lead, the two leads
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are so cool. Like Denzel Washington's boy
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and Batman? John David. Yeah, those motherfuckers
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are cooler than shit. Okay. The fact
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that even though it's you know back
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and forth and Kenneth Brannier and then
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this chick's there and all what is
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that the boy is that fucking you
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know all that kind of crap the
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truth is you can pick almost any
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scene this and be enthralled at watching
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and that's why I've seen it so
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many times. When I've even got it
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on my little download, I mean, video
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list and your library, library, my physical
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library that I go to, it's got
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leather bound shit. And I'll watch any
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time because it's fucking great to watch.
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I think because Nolan, when it came
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out, it's like, I'm gonna save cinema
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because I'm gonna bring you out of
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COVID and here's what's gonna happen. Very
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grandiose, yeah? And I'm like, that put
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me off it initially, but I really
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wanted to see it. And I'm like,
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that put me off it initially, but
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I really wanted to see it. And
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then I saw it put me off
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it initially, but I didn't know what
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the fuck what the fact was going
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on. Even though I still don't, kind
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of, I kind of get it, but
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I kind of don't, and I couldn't,
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it's just an amazing film, and Christopher
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Nolan should probably keep doing that shit.
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I want more spy thrillers from Christopher
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Nolan, do what you want with it
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Chris, but make it that spectacular, okay?
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Because I like it way more than
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I like fucking Oppenheimer. All fucking. I
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know that one best picture and best
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everything, but. That's not our kind of
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thing. That's number jam. I need me
7:08
some like some fucking spy through the
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sun. It's your thing. A little bit
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more interesting. Actually, it's well acted. It's
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well put together. I understand one at
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one, but I never never watch it
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again. Same as interest teller. All right.
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Well acted. Well, this well that. Don't
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really care about it. Paul. You know,
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so that's what I'm saying. Come back
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to spy movies. I'm stunned, well done
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sir. Hey, I'm saying, that's how it
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is man. You have gone on record
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saying you hate this movie, you think
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it's a piece of shit, and here
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it is, in your 10th best film.
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10th, because it, for it to do
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this, and for me to say, how
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can I hate it if I see,
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12 times? I'm saying shit. So that's
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what I'm saying. Well look. You're a,
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a, b, b, b, b, cep. Sorry
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everyone sorry sorry sorry sorry Paul's like
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this is what I'm saying What's your
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number 10 fuck face? Very
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challenging to follow that one up. Mine number
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10, in fact, couldn't be further from it,
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really. Because this is a film which I
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championed all the way along. It was my
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favorite film, 2020. It was an Academy Award
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nominated film. Maybe it won for Best Foreign
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Film. I can't remember, but it is all
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quiet on the Western Front. That's record back.
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Edward Berger. Shit. Front film. German film. Yeah.
8:20
Artie Farte. Yes, but really well-way, two and
8:22
a two and a half hour film based,
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of course, of course, on the classic novel.
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And Geez, and Geez, this film is. This
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film is. up there with one of the
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best war films that I've ever seen. It's
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in my top five of all time. It's
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Harry. Do you remember the way that film
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opens with the incredible sequence of a soldier
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being killed during a sort of rush through
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the trenches? Then the body's on the back
8:45
of a cart and then the uniform gets
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stripped from it. Uniform gets taken away and
8:49
you know... mended but not well enough because
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then one of the one of our main
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characters gets the uniformers is oh there's blood
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on this like ah you're right mate keep
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going exactly yeah that's such a powerful way
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to open this film and the eye the
9:03
recruitment of these young men for World War
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one and they also excited and then very
9:07
quickly we lose one of our four main
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characters and they get whistled away to the
9:12
course of the film we just left with
9:14
Paul and he makes friends with a bunch
9:16
of veterans with a bunch of all their
9:19
fates play from the Marvel cement universe. Daniel
9:21
Brel, who is a German politician, trying to
9:23
negotiate the end of the war, but the
9:26
soldiers are just, the majors, or whatever they
9:28
are, they're just pushing forward with it, not
9:30
caring about the human costing. It's just very,
9:32
very powerful on so many levels, and so
9:35
well filmed, and so well acted. And I
9:37
know it's always hard in foreign film to
9:39
tell with it, but she's, I believe, every
9:41
single person in this movie. What it was
9:44
is that, because it's a long film and
9:46
it's fine and the fact that, but it
9:48
was so well put together and, because I
9:50
remember you recommended this to me and I
9:53
was like, what? And then I looked, took
9:55
it out and I was like, that's really,
9:57
really great. So, surprised that it's your number
9:59
10 on a list this short, but okay.
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I see it. I see it. I see
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it. Look, I started with four and a
10:06
half star films and worked my up to
10:08
five star films over the last year. You
10:11
had a system. Yeah. You know, I have,
10:13
it's called that a boxed. Right. No, no,
10:15
that's a system. I was like, what did
10:17
I like? And then you look at a
10:20
list. So you're like, well, that one was
10:22
like, well, I like. And then you look
10:24
at a list. So you like, well, well,
10:26
well, that one was like, so you look
10:29
at a that one, so you look at
10:31
a list. So you like, well that one,
10:33
so you like, well that one, so you
10:35
like, well that one, so you like, well
10:38
that one, well that one, so you like,
10:40
so you like, well that one, so you
10:42
like, well that one, so you like, well
10:44
that one, well that one, so you like,
10:47
well that one, well that one, well that
10:49
one, well I probably smoke it will be
10:51
in there too. My number nine. My number
10:53
nine is I tossed and turned and ummed
10:56
and out over this one but I have
10:58
decided that a rival is fucking fantastic. You've
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got some love there in the listener community,
11:03
there for you back coming at the end
11:05
of the episode as always. Oh really? But
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as I think I'm on the record I
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thought that film was... bulk standard average didn't
11:12
do it for me. So it's all you
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take it away. Okay, so arrival everyone this
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is where Amy Adams and and Hawkeye are
11:18
in this film and it's about of course
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alien arrivals so to speak. Amy Adams is
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this sort of linguist correct for whatever reason
11:25
is like the only one that communicates with
11:27
the aliens and why I think it's the
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shit. Two reasons. One. First of all, Denise
11:32
Vanille, right, is doing some great work with
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like, the, um, it's running gags with each
11:36
other, like terrible, and that's one of, but
11:39
the, the actual visuals, like all of, a
11:41
lot of his films, shall we say, are
11:43
stunning, and there's moments in the, three reasons,
11:45
actually, there's moments in there where it's just
11:48
silent, there's no score, there's no nothing, and
11:50
you're just looking at this thing floating in
11:52
the thing floating in the middle of the
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middle of a, And the foreground of the
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film connects so heavily with the second half
11:59
of the film, and then by the time
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you get to the end of the film,
12:03
you kind of get to the middle of
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the film, it is a fucking mind-fuck. And
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I think... Can I weigh in on the
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right? Please, please. Fans of the show might
12:12
have followed me across to binge movies from
12:15
that time. Jason, their wonderful podcaster, who does
12:17
an excellent excellent show, and recently I... I
12:19
was on his show for the final Halloween
12:21
spook tacketer we did the final destination series.
12:24
Oh yeah. And we were stunned together to
12:26
realize that the writer of final destination five
12:28
is the writer of arrival. Are you kidding
12:31
me? A film. He stepped up. Five years
12:33
before arrival in 2016 came out has the
12:35
same plot twist as this one does. Wait
12:37
a minute. Really? Basically. Hang on a second.
12:40
So time is a flat circle. Yes. Same.
12:42
Is that, is final installation five the one
12:44
you like with the logs? No, that's two.
12:46
Two. Two is, two is one of the
12:49
greatest horror movies ever made. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
12:51
Yeah, anyway, point out. Oh, okay. I know
12:53
that. And it's Eric Hiseria, who's written some
12:55
other absolute fucking tripe as well at the
12:58
Nightman Home Street remake and Bloodshot. So, yeah,
13:00
interesting career that that's on. Wow. I worked
13:02
on television with Shadow and Bone for a
13:04
while then. He should do a bit more
13:07
work as he's doing this stuff. Well, that's
13:09
the thing. And that's why, so yes, again,
13:11
the mechanics of the plot and how it
13:13
connects to each other is actually mind-boggingly amazing.
13:16
And the final third thing I think is
13:18
awesome about it is that it's a little
13:20
bit like eternal sunshine of the spotless mind
13:22
in that it asks you a question as
13:25
a human that you have to ponder as
13:27
you're walking out of the cinema and on
13:29
the way to getting a burger. Because if
13:31
you're basically what it asks If you knew
13:34
that really really bad shit that's going to
13:36
make you unhappy and probably like miserable and
13:38
depressed was going to happen before it happened
13:40
would you still do it because of the
13:43
good parts of that experience? Yeah and I
13:45
could be the best part about that question
13:47
in this film is that the two main
13:49
characters have a different reaction to it. Right
13:52
Jeremy Renner does not handle this well at
13:54
all or he handles it just fine depending
13:56
on which way you look at it. Sorry
13:58
yes well but the point being is he
14:01
leaves her. because she's like, how could you
14:03
do this one? You still knew it was
14:05
going to happen. She herself knew not only
14:08
that it was going to happen, but that
14:10
Jeremy Renner was going to do this because
14:12
she can see into the future and shit,
14:14
and that's how she knows how to fucking
14:17
read the... Eight years later you don't give
14:19
a fuck. So please don't hit us up
14:21
with ahhh! Well, you know what? Even with
14:23
that little bunch of crap I just spun,
14:26
you should watch this film if you haven't
14:28
watched it because it's a fucking experience if
14:30
you ask me. And watch it on what
14:32
Paul calls the biggest screen you can. Because
14:35
there's the cinematics of it. Oh, you're Christian's
14:37
house. Yes. If you know someone with a
14:39
home theater, go knock that brick up. So
14:41
yeah, that's the guy. So, or don't. Or
14:44
don't. Or don't. Or don't. Or don't, because
14:46
you might. Or don't, because you might not
14:48
want any legitimate. If it's a prick you're
14:50
fine. So yes, arrival is my number nine.
14:53
Right. Mine number nine, Wayne is short cause
14:55
consternation. I can't wait. So let's prep ourselves
14:57
here. Mine number nine, Wayne, you and I
14:59
got into a stouse over recently. It's going
15:02
to be very high, if not highest, on
15:04
my list of the best film. Yeah, it's
15:06
the Shadow Straight. I was just going to
15:08
say I bet you it's not going to
15:11
be one of those Korean directed shit films
15:13
that you like you like you like, is
15:15
it. You're doing it just a piss me
15:17
also, fuck off! Yeah, you can suck my
15:20
neck, you fucking bitch. That's whole shit. I
15:22
can't believe. You're a prick, you're a prick.
15:24
Do you actually believe this? Or are you
15:26
just doing some shit to fuck with me?
15:29
All right, good, John. Okay good, well not
15:31
the shadow sucks, but what is your actual
15:33
number? It's gonna be my top 10 of
15:35
the year, prepare yourself for that next year.
15:38
Mine, I'm an Iron Wayne, might well be
15:40
on your list. It is the best film
15:42
in the Marvel Cinemate universe. It is A
15:45
Vengeance, Colin, Infinity War. Yeah, okay, there you
15:47
guys. Of course, directed by the Russo brothers,
15:49
this is where we bring together the first
15:51
part of 10 years of world building. and
15:54
however many films up that point I feel
15:56
like it's like 16 or so films and
15:58
it culminates in this first part of the
16:00
story of all these heroes coming together to
16:03
fight against the greatest threat the universe has
16:05
ever seen in the form of Thanos, and
16:07
yet Thanos is somehow, somehow, the geniuses movie.
16:09
Absolutely, it's Thanos's film. And here's the thing,
16:12
everyone, I have probably, I can't even think
16:14
of another movie event where all the cards
16:16
were stacked against it to fail because the
16:18
expectations were so high that I myself shat
16:21
my pants on the way to the cinema.
16:23
And... Then when I saw it... Go home,
16:25
clean off, and start again. I came back
16:27
and then I shot myself again because it
16:30
was so good. Like it was... Do you
16:32
remember Paul? I'm pretty sure we saw it
16:34
together, I don't remember any smell. We saw
16:36
it in the band screen, didn't we? Yeah,
16:39
I think so. So we went and there
16:41
was all motherpuckers dressed up and there was
16:43
like fucking studio reps and your mother snatched
16:45
and all those things. And I rushed back
16:48
out to see it with my then, girlfriend
16:50
with my then girlfriend, girlfriend, girlfriend, girlfriend, girlfriend,
16:52
girlfriend, girlfriend, now wife, now wife, now wife,
16:54
wife, and wife, and wife, wife, wife, and
16:57
wife, and wife, wife, and wife, wife, wife,
16:59
wife, and wife, and wife, and wife, wife,
17:01
wife, wife, wife, and wife, wife, and wife,
17:03
wife, wife, wife, wife, wife, wife, wife, wife,
17:06
wife, wife, wife, wife, wife, wife, Bro it
17:08
was like and that would be like for
17:10
real this is stupid that's a highlight of
17:12
the podcast for me because we never would
17:15
have been in that room absolutely right? So
17:17
we turn up there and then every it's
17:19
remember this is a two and a half
17:22
whatever three hour film we're all hanging on
17:24
the address seat remember the mark was captain
17:26
marvel that movie made a billion dollars because
17:28
it was simply because it was all this
17:31
one no followed this one didn't it wasn't
17:33
between this and sorry yeah you're right you're
17:35
right between this the other one but that's
17:37
the thing there was so much like we
17:40
want some information on this all I'll pay
17:42
for the end credit scene right and Man,
17:44
it just did everything. And then it ended
17:46
in a way where I'm like, holy shit.
17:49
And I'm seeing... I actually did it. Yeah.
17:51
She killed half the heroes. And I'm seeing
17:53
like moms and dead, normal people online saying,
17:55
you know, end of infinity war and then
17:58
like crying face emoji. And I'm like, how
18:00
did you see it? I mean, it's not
18:02
red wedding, let's be honest, but it is
18:04
pretty close. Yeah, yeah, it's not red wedding,
18:07
but like for this to do that after
18:09
10 years and everything and all my god
18:11
And then people are on the edge of
18:13
their ass for like the whatever year reason
18:16
why it's not red wedding is good red
18:18
wedding doesn't retro respectively fix it And you
18:20
knew they were going to I understand that
18:22
but Yeah, we got to sit there going.
18:25
Yeah, how are they going to fix it?
18:27
Yeah, how are they going to fix it?
18:29
The answer is with a fucking rat. Well,
18:31
you know, just on that point, though, this
18:34
is like, it was a good, like, like,
18:36
for, because you and I, I remember us
18:38
being on the show talking about it, going,
18:40
look, if it's just fucking time travel, that's
18:43
bullshit. Yeah, I hate that they do that.
18:45
Then they did do try and try and
18:47
travel. And it was still good. Go on,
18:50
recent guest on Julio of the Contraines, went
18:52
on, basically said, whoever has end game higher
18:54
will win my vote this week. Well, I
18:56
got news for you. Oh, yeah, I'm on
18:59
Wayne's list. It's certainly not on my mind.
19:01
No. And it's nowhere near a good of
19:03
film as this one. I know it's one
19:05
of his absolute favorite films all time, which
19:08
I don't, you know, it's not your favorite
19:10
film. Here's what happened with end game, right,
19:12
since we're talking about it. You have this
19:14
thing, which is like, oh my God, they
19:17
did it. We wait a whole year, right?
19:19
Then it comes back and we're like, what's
19:21
going to happen? For the first, maybe act,
19:23
it's quiet. It's a quiet film. It's somber.
19:26
Oh my God, it's five years later. We
19:28
know they're going to do a five-year time,
19:30
Joe. Right. Yeah, there's that. And then it's
19:32
five years later. And you're like, what's going
19:35
on now? What's going on now? And then
19:37
you're like, and then you're like, like, holy
19:39
shit. it has this slow burn slow burn
19:41
slow burn giving it meaning and then it's
19:44
still I would say this though the end
19:46
of end game with the on your left
19:48
yeah the last that kills over infinity war
19:50
but infinity war is a more consistently better
19:53
film exactly everything that last 30 40 minutes
19:55
of in game is stellar thousand percent but
19:57
you get away through some pretty strong way
19:59
but pretty average stuff well this is the
20:02
thing though it's one of those things where
20:04
you you almost can't It's hard to take
20:06
one without the other, like you have to
20:08
kind of say, look, this was a sequel
20:11
to that one, and it wasn't just a
20:13
sequel, it was the sequel. They made them
20:15
together. So it's almost like if you put
20:17
them both together, does that diminish Infinity War's
20:20
position? I don't put it on. No, right?
20:22
So that means... Yeah, I know. So that's
20:24
it. But yeah, Infinity War. Good call, little
20:27
low. Fair enough, Wayne. What is your number
20:29
eight? Mine of eight is Logan. Also, little
20:31
low. Okay. So, Lohjan, I'll tell you this,
20:33
folks. I've only seen it one point five
20:36
times. What? No. No. But I do remember.
20:38
By the way, if you're not a patron
20:40
member, you might not be aware, but apparently
20:42
Wayne and Mark. Are Wiwina cousins. Yeah, I
20:45
dated a girl, I dated a girl who
20:47
said that she was, she fathered as a
20:49
child with Marki Mark. She was insane. Go
20:51
ahead, be a patron, check out that story,
20:54
feel free. Anyway, Logan. Now, big fan of
20:56
the X-Men when it came out back in
20:58
the day. The first and second ones? Yep.
21:00
I'm assuming last day and not so much.
21:03
But still not bad. Anyway, and then, you
21:05
know, to see actually them put, like, first
21:07
of all, this is the best move by
21:09
Hugh, Hugh, Hugh Grant, right? Hugh Grant? No.
21:12
Hugh Jackman. Yeah, right? Old, I'm very old,
21:14
everyone. Okay, as I have a girl. I
21:16
was going to say, Hugh, Laurie. He sends
21:18
the character out Swan song wise on this
21:21
level where he makes that superhero character. Turned
21:23
into a fucking David Mamet film or something.
21:25
This is such a- James Mangold film. James,
21:27
but like it seemed like, it seemed like
21:30
a fucking, it seemed like Miller's crossing this
21:32
fucking film. It was so different in tone
21:34
and to see the way that he- It
21:36
was R-rated for starters. R-rated for starters. But
21:39
secondly, like, before when you see Wolverine skewer
21:41
someone with his like, with his blades, right?
21:43
It's like, it's like, it's like, it's, okay,
21:45
it's like, it's like, it's like, it's, it's,
21:48
it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,
21:50
it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it,
21:52
it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it,
21:54
it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it,
21:57
it, it, it, it, it, it, it you
21:59
know and he like it's like they handled
22:01
it completely different and the tone of the
22:04
film works so much better and it was
22:06
so sad of course they're using Johnny Cash
22:08
right as the soundtrack himself but to make
22:10
Professor X actually be decrepit and dangerous? A
22:13
demented. A demented? A demented? And him saying,
22:15
look, we're going to do this thing where
22:17
we're going to get a boat and we're
22:19
going to live out our days, you and
22:22
me in the middle of the ocean. And
22:24
that's how we're not going to hurt people.
22:26
You know, and everything that led up to
22:28
it, X23 was fantastic. That girl was amazing.
22:31
She absolutely was. I could not agree more
22:33
if I'm allowed to. Please, please come tell
22:35
me because it's on your list. What do
22:37
you love about it? Very, very few films
22:40
that I had such a visual emotional reaction
22:42
to. This was my favorite film of the
22:44
year. Daphne as X-W-3 or Laura. Hugh Jackman's
22:46
Logan perfectly, you know, he ends up realizing
22:49
this is the end of, I'm going to
22:51
sacrifice everything for this kid and her peers
22:53
at that point. They just struck. This emotional
22:55
balance in a way I don't think any
22:58
superhero film has before. His end is so
23:00
perfect yet tragic yet emotional. Yeah, it's harsh.
23:02
That moment where she X23 goes over and
23:04
twists the cross. Yeah, to make it an
23:07
ex. To make an ex? I'm like, oh
23:09
my God. Yeah. That is still one of
23:11
the most emotional moments in the cinema I've
23:13
ever seen. I remember seeing it with my
23:16
then girlfriend walking out the cinema, just like
23:18
trying to hide my tears. Fuckin'er. Fuckin'le. And
23:20
obviously there's a dad of a kid. I
23:22
think it struck me that much. Of course,
23:25
I can only imagine. I can only imagine.
23:27
The action. The action. The action. The two
23:29
or three big action. The two or three
23:31
big action scenes is incredible. He's fighting his
23:34
younger self. Exactly and knowing he's dead. He
23:36
makes that decision. Okay, I got to do
23:38
this for these kids. And he knows that
23:41
the adamantium is actually killing him and stuff
23:43
like that. So good. And then even the
23:45
way that they take care of, so to
23:47
speak, Professor X's fate here, as cruel as
23:50
fuck. I know, right? This film doesn't play
23:52
titilly wings, playing for keeps, and it really
23:54
struck me in a way that's a very,
23:56
very few films, very few films. It's one
23:59
of the finest. And I think him appearing
24:01
in Deadpool didn't punish this one bit because
24:03
it had been long enough and it had
24:05
been like helps. Yeah, and it was just
24:08
like so different. Yeah, so different than this
24:10
particular version of Logan that. It's okay in
24:12
the way. It's almost like it came back
24:14
and it was fun. It's not it's not
24:17
the same one, right? It's a different one
24:19
from a different universe. So one of the
24:21
good things about the multiverse is you can
24:23
get away with that kind of shit. Yes.
24:26
The bad things that multiverse is no one's
24:28
ever truly dead. Exactly. And nothing's playing for
24:30
keeps. Yeah. It's coming to an end and
24:32
being surprised by by a loss of a
24:35
carrier like who you really care about. Yeah.
24:37
Yeah. No, makes sense. So yes, my number
24:39
eight was Logan. Logan, very nice choice there.
24:41
So my number eight, Wayne. Is the other
24:44
film from Timo Johan show? The night comes
24:46
for us an actual good film. Oh, fuck.
24:48
And fuck you. Wait, this is number eight
24:50
on my list. Eight. Or, because you're not
24:53
reacting, it's Mission Impossible Fallout. Because... Oh,
24:56
I see, you were fucking with me
24:58
again. Good, because that's a piece of
25:00
shit. Well, you can't, you know... No,
25:02
I love that movie, I do, and
25:04
it's not even... It'll be my top
25:06
30 films that we've done since the
25:08
start of the podcast, but... That's also
25:10
too high. Mission Colony Possible, hyphen fallout.
25:12
That's my number seven. Okay, so we're
25:14
right here. Yeah. I remember. Most significantly
25:16
because the story that comes attached to
25:18
this. Please. It was a July release,
25:20
middle of the year, as these Mission
25:22
Impossible Fallout films have become. So Mission
25:25
Impossible Films have become. Yep, yep. And
25:27
I had the choice of going to
25:29
Christmas and July with my work colleagues
25:31
or coming to see this tentpole film.
25:33
I have never lived it down with
25:35
my work crew, who are not longer
25:37
my work crew, but friends now. Ever
25:39
since like, a lot of time we
25:41
didn't come to Christmas and July, and
25:43
just came late and just barely got
25:45
there to have one day to have
25:47
one beer and have one beer. Like
25:49
worth it. Because this film is so
25:51
fucking. This is by far and away
25:53
the best spy thriller that we have
25:55
done in the history of the podcast.
25:58
Is this by far and away the
26:00
best mission and possible film? This is
26:02
by far and away and by the
26:04
way I keep saying that very deliberately
26:06
because Tom Cruise is a star and
26:08
star in the way. Well done. Well
26:10
done. Well done. Could just. I didn't
26:12
miss it. Well you weren't reacting. I
26:14
was thinking it over. Because you're such
26:16
a, you're making such a grandiose statement.
26:18
This is far and away. I think
26:20
the best T of the C film
26:22
ever made. No! Give me a better
26:24
one. Jerry McGuire. No. For you sure.
26:26
Talk on me ever. Nope. Okay. There's
26:29
a question. Well, maybe we're at the
26:31
hero. I'm just saying. Which is a
26:33
better film for you? Really. Well here
26:35
it is right so what is cool
26:37
about Tom Cruise right is that he's
26:39
not afraid to have these up-and-comers potentially
26:41
upstage him he's so confident he puts
26:43
Superman in this film right sure he
26:45
gave him a shit moustache right yeah
26:47
but in because otherwise he wasn't allowed
26:49
to be in the film right is
26:51
that how it worked is that so
26:53
no what happened was Isn't that you
26:55
couldn't look the same? Is that the
26:57
deal? No, what happened was they just
27:00
happened to give him a mustache to
27:02
make him more the villain And then
27:04
when they need to do pickups on
27:06
Superman They said can you please shave
27:08
off the mustache and Christopher Macquarie said
27:10
nope Also take it out of that
27:12
film. Yes, so they had to digitally
27:14
remove it from that. Sorry. Sorry. But
27:16
this is but that's but that's but
27:18
that's I mean that's kind of a
27:20
good point though like having, you know.
27:22
Henry Campbell in this film and he's
27:24
already considered, like he's a lead, he's
27:26
a hero, he's Superman, he's this, that,
27:28
but they make him the villain. One
27:31
of the interesting things- One eventually. Well
27:33
eventually, right, but this is the thing
27:35
though, right? Christopher Macquarie was saying that
27:37
the biggest criticisms he hears from this
27:39
film is that people go, yeah, I
27:41
knew he was the bad guy all
27:43
along. Oh shit. No, no, but he's
27:45
a thing, Christopher Corbett for him said,
27:47
he's the bad guy, he's the film.
27:49
This villainous music. Right? And even when
27:51
he was writing it, and he's, yeah,
27:53
and even when he was writing it,
27:55
and he's talking with Tom Cruise, going,
27:57
how do we hide that he's the
27:59
bad guy? And they said, don't bother.
28:02
And he said, don't bother. Just make
28:04
it, no, even in the trailer, make
28:06
it look like it's kind of. of
28:08
a villain. You know, like, so you
28:10
walk in knowing it and then when
28:12
it's revealed, it's not that big. It
28:14
wasn't like a big, it wasn't the
28:16
moment that Ali Baldwin gets kept. No,
28:18
no, it wasn't like that. And that,
28:20
by the way, almost burst into tears
28:22
myself. Just like, oh my God. They
28:24
killed Alec Baldwin. And also, big surprise,
28:26
Alec Baldwin didn't kill anyone on the
28:28
set. Oh shit! Wayne's like. Balsy. Stupid,
28:30
but Balsy. That joke ends the decision
28:32
to kill us all. Yeah, okay. But
28:35
yeah, no, this is it. Like, of
28:37
all the Mission Impossibles, right? Because I
28:39
know you love, everyone loves the first
28:41
one, right? Well, Brian DePamba. I do
28:43
love the first one. Well, DeParme is
28:45
only big budget films. Yeah. So, I
28:47
mean, I am on record as adoring,
28:49
you know, ghost protocol. I think that
28:51
number one. Oh yeah. Okay, and are
28:53
we all excited for these? Sadly, dead
28:55
reckoning would be, I think of the
28:57
lower half of the list. That was
28:59
disappointing that movie. Yeah, after this one.
29:01
Oh, because I'll show this one. Yeah.
29:03
Well, that's the one I'm assuming. Look,
29:06
I've got big high hopes for the
29:08
final reckoning, yes. Is, yeah, I'm big
29:10
on that. I'm sure he's gonna retire
29:12
after that. I think this is, I
29:14
went in the corner of the final
29:16
record, I think it's the last Mission
29:18
Impossible film at least with Ethan Hunt
29:20
in the series, like they may, he
29:22
may hand the torch over to someone
29:24
else or there may be, you know,
29:26
maybe it's Harley Atwell who's going to
29:28
be the new... I would like to
29:30
see a Batman Beyond kind of thing
29:32
where Ethan Hunt does come back in
29:34
a few years. but he's the grizzled
29:37
kind of sure yeah that would be
29:39
fine yeah it's a legacy cool but
29:41
only in four or five years time
29:43
rather than yeah yeah yeah exactly yeah
29:45
yeah then he would be too old
29:47
then he would be even older than
29:49
John Voic in the original so shit
29:51
yeah okay look I love this movie
29:53
for all the reasons you said I
29:55
love this movie for all the reasons
29:57
you said I think sequences are incredible
29:59
I think it's got wonderful chemistry with
30:01
Brecon Thurg Ferguson so Ferguson as you
30:03
call her murgerson as you call her
30:05
as you know as you want from
30:08
a spy thriller It is thrilling. It
30:10
has incredible action sequences. and I was
30:12
on the edge of my seat the
30:14
whole way through so yeah damn right
30:16
mission call and impossible hyphen fallout is
30:18
my number you should have said mission
30:20
accomplished well that's my number mother fucking
30:22
seven so we back to you mother
30:24
all right my number seven is a
30:26
film way in which we are both
30:28
particularly fond of from 2017 is directed
30:30
by one of our favorite directors in
30:32
the world Edgar Wright baby driver no
30:34
Look, I think this film might be
30:36
the best constructed film. There's one other
30:39
on my list that could take the
30:41
crown in that regard for reasons I'll
30:43
get to when I get there. But
30:45
this one, I know that not everyone
30:47
loves it. Even I'm not a fan
30:49
of the plot contrivances at the end.
30:51
But apart from that, I think it's
30:53
the flawless movie. preceding part of the
30:55
film was so good I'm happy to
30:57
give the end a pass and it's
30:59
not even that it needs a pass
31:01
but like I know you're like mmm
31:03
okay this didn't happen whatever but I'm
31:05
actually fine with the ending I'm fine
31:07
with the whole movie I think it's
31:09
actually like you said one of the
31:12
best constructed films ever it's actually a
31:14
cinematic masterpiece and I have no qualm
31:16
saying I do I agree with you
31:18
as well the way it's edited and
31:20
the way the thought has gone into
31:22
every frame of this movie up until
31:24
the last 10 minutes is absolutely mind-blowing.
31:26
I think this is one of the
31:28
best opening sequences of any film ever
31:30
made to the John Spencer's blues explosion
31:32
with the highest and whatever else in
31:34
his driving, some of the shots and
31:36
that are incredible. And then through the
31:38
opening credits we get to see exactly
31:40
what's going on. There are references to
31:43
the music that's playing as babies moving
31:45
his way through the shots and the
31:47
scenes that are, unless you're paying real
31:49
attention, you'll just completely miss, there's so
31:51
much so many levels. He will layer
31:53
in so much information for you if
31:55
you really want to commit to it.
31:57
If you really want to watch carefully,
31:59
there's always something more. Feedy changes in
32:01
the background to show what's happening in
32:03
the scene, the street signs, all this
32:05
sort of shit. It's like... Diagetic, right,
32:07
that's the term. Diagetic sound, yeah, absolutely
32:09
is like, but I don't know, how
32:11
well did this dude, do we know?
32:14
Like, did it? I can tell you
32:16
how well, did it? Tell me. It
32:18
made $27 million of only $34. Oh,
32:20
so it killed. Oh, okay, good, I'm
32:22
happy about that, because here's what happened
32:24
with this film, because here's what happened
32:26
with this film, because here's what happened
32:28
with this film. We had Kevin Spacey
32:30
in it. We had Kevin Spacey in
32:32
it. We had Kevin Spacey in it.
32:34
We had Kevin Spacey in it. Before
32:36
all that should happen. In fact, it
32:38
left cinemas by the time. So it
32:40
wasn't tard with that brush Anson Elkhart.
32:42
Yeah, okay. Anson Elkhart. He was a
32:45
chance. It was new. That was a
32:47
chance. We needed someone baby face. No
32:49
pun intended. Lily James, gorgeous young woman
32:51
in this film. I forgot. Lily James,
32:53
gorgeous young woman in this film. I
32:55
forgot. bound and I might be wrong
32:57
here but the Matrix trilogy, Matrix, original
32:59
trilogy? Seems like that's right? The first,
33:01
yeah he did, the Matrix films. He's
33:03
got such an eye, this particular guy.
33:05
I do really enjoy the Pope films.
33:07
Remember the scene where like he's driving
33:09
down, well he's skidding, like he's doing
33:11
big 360s down this corridor and there's
33:13
trucks and shit pulling out in the
33:16
middle of that? That, just to do
33:18
that? Oh, you have a headshot? Yeah,
33:20
insane! And again, this is such a
33:22
well put together movie. It's got a
33:24
little bit of that Nolanish going on
33:26
with it where certain things are a
33:28
little bit contrived, but you're willing to
33:30
go with it because it gave you
33:32
that. For example, when he's getting away
33:34
from the police, he happens to be
33:36
driving a red car and he happens
33:38
to be able to do it all
33:40
switch room in the tunnel because there's
33:42
two other red cars next to him.
33:44
reviews on this show that if a
33:46
film can hide it seems from you
33:49
because you're so entertaining so in the
33:51
film and this is one of those
33:53
movies that does that. As I say,
33:55
all the way through until the end
33:57
for me. Absolutely. Nice one. Great. That
33:59
it's on both of our lists. A
34:01
very, very love film around these parts.
34:03
Wayne, what is your number six? Number
34:05
six is Sicario. Yeah, okay. Not even
34:07
thought of for me? Yeah, see, it's
34:09
a little bit of a venellist. You
34:11
are a veneer. Apologist. I believe it
34:13
completely. She's so scared, so messed around,
34:15
so this, so that. And then you,
34:17
I didn't, look, I've been to California,
34:20
but I've never been to Mexico. So,
34:22
just to see the way the cartels
34:24
are, how bad it is, and the
34:26
way this movie paints it, is that
34:28
just there are no good men here.
34:30
So that's why at the end, it's
34:32
like, you got to leave here, because
34:34
there are no good men here. And
34:36
the Bineusio character is just killing it.
34:38
The thing I always think about is
34:40
the bridge scene where that's like, you
34:42
know, that's a exercise intention that very
34:44
few filmmakers can match and he's so
34:46
smart. He's just got a dog barking
34:48
in the background and it's irritating you
34:51
just enough to keep you on the
34:53
edge of the seat and all this
34:55
shit goes down and then it continues
34:57
on like that, like from the very
34:59
beginning with the bomb and everything, you
35:01
know, oh my God. At the very
35:03
start of the film is don't they
35:05
find out bodies in the dry wall,
35:07
the house, the fucking whole thing blows
35:09
up a crew blows up, a crew
35:11
goes up, a crew goes up, a
35:13
crew goes up, a crew goes down,
35:15
a crew goes down, Benito Gatoro trying
35:17
to go get his revenge. That is
35:19
a absolutely brutal scene. And it pulls
35:22
no punches. It pulls zero punches. And
35:24
for me, it's like, this is the
35:26
most hard hitting thing. The second one
35:28
is not as good as this, and
35:30
it wasn't done by Denis Vanib. No.
35:32
But it's still good. Yeah, it's fine.
35:34
And so that's how good the show
35:36
is. And I will see anything he
35:38
does now. This is one of those
35:40
rare films, not rare films, it happens
35:42
more than occasionally, but where word of
35:44
mouth had built up my expectations too
35:46
much. I expected the greatest crime drama
35:48
ever made on the basis of what
35:50
people were saying. Oh, five star, five
35:53
star. Yeah. And I remember we went
35:55
and saw it at a very small
35:57
cinema. Yeah, that's good. But it's like,
35:59
where's the amazing? Really? I think, yeah,
36:01
maybe, I think that's what it was.
36:03
My expectations were not as high. So
36:05
I'm like, look at this fucking thing.
36:07
So yes. Clearly it's up here at
36:09
number seven. Yeah, six, six, six, six
36:11
of your list. That's very, very high.
36:13
Yeah, good. Yeah, good on. Look, I
36:15
don't think you'll have many arguments about
36:17
that one. I hope. Although, although you
36:19
want to agree, Wayne. There won't be
36:21
many arguments on number six, many argues
36:23
on number six, number six, number six.
36:27
It is my favorite film in one of
36:29
my favorite franchises that's ever been made full
36:31
stop. It's John Wick chapter 4. Yeah, yeah,
36:33
fuck me. I love this movie. John Wick
36:35
Colin chapter 4 is everything that I want
36:37
in action film. It is a wonderful swan
36:39
song for an incredible character. Is it long?
36:41
Yes, do I enjoy it despite that fact?
36:43
The fact that it's a hundred and seventy
36:45
minutes long and I want to watch this
36:47
film like I've seen it three times already.
36:49
It came out last year. Three times, when
36:51
I was recently at COVID for the second
36:53
time and I was isolating my dad's house,
36:55
I looked at all these movies, I looked
36:57
at everything that was online, after watching every
36:59
AFL game that weekend, I'm like, you know
37:01
what, fuck watching something new, I wanna watch
37:03
this again, and I was enthralled from beginning
37:05
to end, even, even get close to falling
37:07
asleep, anything else I put on fell asleep,
37:09
because I'm sick. This film, I watched the
37:12
whole thing all the whole thing all the
37:14
way through. I'm captivated by the whole thing
37:16
all the way through. fairly non-spoken character like
37:18
I think he's the same guy he's not
37:20
the greatest actor in the world but he's
37:22
physical prowess for a man if his age
37:24
is incredible agree on that and also if
37:26
you've seen street kings he is a good
37:28
actor he just doesn't get great directors every
37:30
single time yeah and so you did correct
37:32
me a couple weeks back russer who's a
37:34
better working action directed today than Timo Tianjo
37:36
it is Chadz for Helsinki yeah is incredible
37:38
and this movie is proof positive of that
37:40
the overhead shot Oh, the dragon's breast shotgun?
37:42
Yeah, that was, that was undoubtedly the, around
37:44
the ark to Triomphe, the, some of the
37:46
fights in the nightclub with Scott Atkins is
37:48
this huge over way. There's just so many
37:50
moments in this movie where I'm just like,
37:52
oh my god, damn, damn, damn. Do you
37:54
ever watch Scott Atkins films? Like he does
37:56
a few little things here and there and
37:58
he's like, okay, well at least he's doing
38:00
martial arts. Scott Atkins in little films like.
38:03
one shot and all the rest of it.
38:05
He is always the best thing about them.
38:07
Obviously we get up to the big leagues
38:09
here, the A leagues, he's not vesting anymore,
38:11
but he gives his all physically. He does
38:13
a really great job. Several times to be
38:15
the next Batman. Because he sort of looks
38:17
like Bruce Wayne and he's obviously, he's sort
38:19
of looks like Bruce Wayne and he's obviously
38:21
like, you know, and he talks about it,
38:23
he goes, yeah. this film franchise, one of
38:25
my absolute favorites of all time, and this
38:27
one is the piece that was his stance,
38:29
including where they ended the film. Now, remember
38:31
when we saw this film, Paul, the word
38:33
on the street was that they were making
38:35
a fifth one. No, they hadn't committed to
38:37
it, but it was just knowing that that
38:39
was going to happen. And then, like, this
38:41
one ends the way it ends, and you're
38:43
like, well, what are they going to do?
38:45
Then Kianu Reeves says, no, this is a
38:47
great ending, this is a great ending, this.
38:49
Is there anything that's going to happen after
38:52
this? We don't even know. But the story
38:54
goes. Chad and Kianna would frequently meet in
38:56
Japan when it's released. And for those who
38:58
don't know, Japan cinematic releases are often the
39:00
last in the world. So if they're not
39:02
doing a simultaneous worldwide rollout, they do it.
39:04
Eventually it makes its way to Japan. It
39:06
makes a few extra million dollars, you know,
39:08
20, 30 million dollars extra potentially. I wonder
39:10
why. I don't know. That's just the way
39:12
that it is the way that it is.
39:14
And so that it is. And so that
39:16
it is. And so that it is. they
39:18
often will go there for the premiere, the
39:20
last premiere around the world and they'll go
39:22
to some bar together and that's where after
39:24
the first second and third film that scratched
39:26
out notes together for the fourth film or
39:28
next film in the series. Right. And so
39:30
they did that for the fourth film and
39:32
they acknowledge look the story is probably over
39:34
for this character but we have a universe
39:36
here now we've created we've had the continental
39:38
TV series yeah we have ballerina which has
39:41
been delayed till next year with Adam Damas.
39:43
Why it was meant to come out it
39:45
was meant to come out I think maybe
39:47
the sag after the sag after the sag
39:49
after the sag after the sag after. I
39:51
think there is that story going around, maybe
39:53
a very young John Wick, played by a
39:55
different actor, so we get another film in
39:57
this universe in Canada, easy in Balarina, so
39:59
it's a prequel to this film. I think
40:01
I like that better. I think I like
40:03
it better. I think I like it better
40:05
than doing a good one. Because how are
40:07
they going to bring it back? Yeah, well,
40:09
look. If they could do a prequel, I
40:11
guess. Well, they're going to prequels, or, or
40:13
yeah, I think there is that story going
40:15
around maybe, I think there is that story
40:17
going around maybe a very young John Wick,
40:19
maybe a very young John Wick, maybe a
40:21
very young John Wick, maybe a very young
40:23
John Wick, played by a very young John
40:25
Wick, played by a different actor, played by
40:27
a different actor, played by a different actor,
40:30
played by a different actor, played by a
40:32
different actor, played by a different actor, played
40:34
by a different actor, played by a different
40:36
actor, might be a different actor But you
40:38
know what, if they said, you know what,
40:40
John Week Chapter 5, here he is alive
40:42
and well and kicking off, I will be
40:44
there for it. Front and fucking centered day
40:46
one. Yeah, despite how ridiculous. Whatever, it's a
40:48
movie, it's actually, I'm fine with it. There
40:50
you go. Exactly that. All righty, my number
40:52
five is into the spider verse. Okay, good.
40:54
I think, okay, good. Because I didn't write
40:56
down what year it was, I'm like, wait,
40:58
is you going to say going to say
41:00
it going to say it's going to say
41:02
some shit. It's going to say it's going
41:04
to say it's going to say it, it,
41:06
it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it,
41:08
it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it,
41:10
it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it,
41:12
it's going to, it, it, it's going to,
41:14
it, it, it's going to, it Spider Man
41:16
did the Spiderverse look we have talked about
41:19
this a whole lot and we probably still
41:21
will for a while but let's just say
41:23
this I saw the trailer I said I've
41:25
never seen anything look like that before that's
41:27
the statement there it is yeah and for
41:29
them to do what they did and make
41:31
it look like a comic but in the
41:33
best possible way where you show the dots
41:35
of color and you show like the occasional
41:37
glitch and this is this is the work
41:39
of some kind of creative genius and I'm
41:41
not saying that lightly because everyone's seen animated
41:43
shit before but for them to have the
41:45
idea to make the frame rate between characters
41:47
different to actually show what fucking type of
41:49
comic they are and things like that for
41:51
that to all happen in this one show
41:53
and for it to go like this and
41:55
actually turn out this well and then on
41:57
another note the sequel does another thing it's
41:59
a different thing it's more impressionistic in the
42:01
way and it's also beautiful I actually really
42:03
want to see the second one again because
42:05
I haven't seen it again for a while
42:08
and it's like Yeah, it looks, it's, this,
42:10
this entire thing is this shit. I can't
42:12
believe, what is the flavor of like coming
42:14
up all? It was meant to be this
42:16
year, the strikes happened, and they pushed it
42:18
back, it still doesn't have a date. So
42:20
not even next year, maybe? We're not even
42:22
sure. I think I did, I think I
42:24
saw something somewhere online suggesting 2026. Man, they're
42:26
gonna cool up if they fucking make this
42:28
any later. It's just some bullshit. Well, given
42:30
the way the second one ends with a
42:32
massive cliffhanger. You got to do that. That's
42:34
why I was meant to be 12 months.
42:36
It was meant to be an infinity war
42:38
in-game sort of scenario. Obviously, not as much
42:40
weight behind it. I'm not suggesting for a
42:42
second there hoolio that there was. But, yeah.
42:44
Unfortunately. Unquestionably, like, at least the last 10
42:46
years. For real, for real. So yeah, okay.
42:48
So yeah, that's my, into the Spider-verse is
42:50
my number of high- Wonderful choice. Yeah. It's
42:52
an honorable mention way. It doesn't crack well.
42:54
Yeah, that's how this list goes. Yeah, and
42:56
it would be my number 11, I was
42:59
blown away. Yeah, blown away in the cinema
43:01
watching this movie and just did not know
43:03
what I was in for when I'm fucking
43:05
another Spider-Man, another Spider-Man film, it's animated, whatever,
43:07
and by coming out, I was a convert,
43:09
suddenly, suddenly I understood why people love Spider-Man,
43:11
so this film, Miles Morales, did it for
43:13
me. This also transcends like demographics that you
43:15
would expect. Jen, listener of ours, I recommended
43:17
this. She went and saw it, said she
43:19
loved it, even saw it twice. Nice. Like,
43:21
forget about it. Beautiful. You know what I
43:23
mean? Well, well, I'll say. Or I can
43:25
bounce back to you, because my number five
43:27
is Lujan. Ah, Lujan. Spanish subtitles. Yes, well,
43:29
speak of sort of the devil Paul, my
43:31
number four is Topkahn Maverick. Yeah. Yeah. So
43:33
better for you than Mission Colin for. call
43:35
impossible hyphen fallout. Yeah, and I'll tell you
43:37
why. Okay, because keen to hear. Well, remember
43:39
that year that it came out, um, COVID,
43:41
COVID, right? 2022, right? 2020, yeah, 2020, 2020,
43:43
2020, for us here in Perth, that's where
43:45
COVID really ran through, because I closed the
43:48
borders, and then they eventually had to open
43:50
the lockdown, where we were sort of this
43:52
little haven, where we could still, where we
43:54
could still do more than most people, up
43:56
until most people, up until that point, up
43:58
until that point, up until that point, up
44:00
until that point, up until that point, up
44:02
until that point, up until that point, right,
44:04
right, up until that point, right. Right. Right.
44:06
through everyone. Yeah, that's it. So Top Gun
44:08
Maverick. Again, we talk about things like our
44:10
recent review of Gladie. Did you miss it?
44:12
The cinema because she had COVID. I did.
44:14
Yeah. I had COVID and missed it. There
44:16
was a wicked advanced screening which I couldn't
44:18
go to and pull to one of our
44:20
friends and he won't shut up about how
44:22
awesome it was. It was absolutely the best.
44:24
There you go. See. They had a dude
44:26
playing what guitar doing the Top Gun Anthem.
44:29
and still shut my pants with glee.
44:31
So having seen this with a range
44:34
of different people, I've shown this to
44:36
many people. I'm talking about women. And
44:38
um... Didn't need to be seven thanks.
44:40
Thank you. And I've actually been comfortable
44:42
to say to them, this is a
44:45
good fucking film. All right, so just
44:47
so you know, I know you've heard
44:49
of it, but I haven't seen it.
44:51
Check it out. towards the end of
44:54
the film in all three cases she
44:56
leans over you're right this is a
44:58
great fucking film and I've decided and
45:00
it's always the scene when he comes
45:02
back to the bar afterwards and sees
45:05
and like he's looking for fucking Jennifer
45:07
Connolly and I don't know what it
45:09
is but because of all the things
45:11
that happen and yes there's an F14
45:14
in it which I just love right
45:16
I'm oddly in aviation slight geek but
45:18
not a real one. Yeah,
45:22
I'm saying, I'm saying, but like, the
45:24
fact that, like, we just reviewed Gladiator
45:26
2, that's coming out, and we were
45:28
talking about when you, 20, 20, 20-ish
45:30
years, or 20, 20-ish years. Shouldn't work.
45:32
Shouldn't work. This is like one of
45:35
the few times it did work, okay?
45:37
Great. Even James Mangold can't make shit
45:39
good after years and years with the
45:41
Indiana Jones shit. Oh, fuck that movie.
45:43
Exactly. So this, and every reason to
45:45
fail and didn't. And of course, this
45:47
is the actual film where Stephen Spielberg,
45:50
high five Tom Cruise and said you
45:52
just saved cinema. Because everyone came back
45:54
and watched this thing because it was
45:56
so fat as good. So best Tom
45:58
Cruise movie? On the spot, here we
46:00
go. I'm so old that Jerry McGuire
46:02
is less relevant to me now, but
46:05
I probably was more surprised and shocked
46:07
at how much I adore Jerry McGuire,
46:09
how much it meant to my life.
46:11
Which one? This is probably a hair
46:13
better. Ooh. Okay, there. I can't use
46:15
Stan with Loop, motherfucker. That's right. I
46:17
stand remotely, not even slightly. I have
46:20
folded like a deck chair. And there
46:22
you are! That is my number four,
46:24
Lisa Jennifer. Paul, what's your number? My
46:26
number four equally is a film which
46:28
is very very me and one that
46:30
I still don't think you've seen Wayne
46:32
and it's starting to shit me if
46:34
I'm honest. What is it? It is
46:37
young sang hose trained to Passan. Ah,
46:39
yes. The greatest zombie movie of the
46:41
last 10 years. It's also filmed with
46:43
more heart than you would expect. It
46:45
absolutely will tug on your heartstrings. Childless
46:47
though you may be. Oh right, okay,
46:49
really? I say maybe because we just
46:52
don't know. We're just all pox. No
46:54
one's coming knocking. Dad? I have a
46:56
lot of fake illnesses everyone. Trendy Bessan,
46:58
yes, no look, I've obviously got a
47:00
point about it. I guess we're at
47:02
the point now, the podcast, where we've
47:04
spoken all these films to death. won't
47:07
go into detail except to say if
47:09
you've seen this movie you know you
47:11
know that this is not your standard
47:13
operating horror film you know that it
47:15
has way more characters you care about
47:17
than any general horror film that you
47:19
would expect it also ends in a
47:22
way that you would not anticipate come
47:24
the start of the film at least
47:26
if you're a western audience watcher okay
47:28
I'll give it I will give it
47:30
a try before the weekly show ends
47:32
what about it Paul that would be
47:34
awesome I'd love to hear your thoughts
47:37
I love to hear your thoughts Here
47:39
we go what we have agreed upon
47:41
a particular TV show to review this
47:43
next week Should we abandon that and
47:45
review train to bazaar? Yeah, right? Because
47:47
it's gonna be better than what we're
47:49
gonna do set ourselves up to watch
47:52
We're gonna watch the office Australia for
47:54
you folks Just just like just because
47:56
you know we watched it so you
47:58
don't have to and maybe you want
48:00
that we can do that anytime Maybe
48:02
maybe this is this is both salvation
48:04
for us All right, I'll watch 20
48:07
beside and we'll review it next week.
48:09
Okay, done deal decision retro review from
48:11
2016 this movie. I want to talk
48:13
about any more then because Wayne needs
48:15
to see it and come back next
48:17
week for our review because Wayne is
48:19
gonna wait on this movie good bad
48:22
or indifferent and then maybe Fighting. Done
48:24
and done, ladies and gentlemen. Um, well,
48:26
it's actually a mention of the Infinity
48:28
Wars. We're back in here. Oh, wow,
48:30
up here. Yeah, man. It's a refugee
48:32
war, my fucker. Damn. Yeah? That's really
48:34
high. I know, it's fun. No, last
48:37
10 years, motherfucker. This thing had an
48:39
effect on my life. And in fact,
48:41
when Endgame came out, all right, I
48:43
had an operation on my hip, which
48:45
I had to fight to be better
48:47
for to attend that advanced screening. I
48:49
couldn't go because I was down south.
48:51
Yeah, but the thing was like, hey
48:54
man, you gotta be good for this
48:56
thing. I'm like, I'm gonna be good
48:58
and it helped me heal. That's how
49:00
big these movies were. These movies, these
49:02
movies, these movies were. That's a big
49:04
these movies, that's a big these movies
49:06
were. That's a big these movies were.
49:09
Is the other technically greater film than
49:11
the one I suggested Baby Driver was?
49:13
It is Sam Mendez's 19. Is that
49:15
your number? Three. That's my number two.
49:17
Oh, there we are. Because it is
49:19
the fucking tense. I think we might,
49:21
I wonder, I wonder, if we have
49:24
the consensus best film that the podcast
49:26
has ever seen. No, okay. I know
49:28
what you're talking about. And I am
49:30
going to wow you with information about
49:32
that one. And screw you, Julio. 1917,
49:34
a one-shot World War I film, following
49:36
two characters who are tasked with going
49:39
across enemy lines to deliver essential information
49:41
to a general who's about to launch
49:43
this counter-offensive that's going to result in
49:45
all the soldiers who jump up and
49:47
run across the open fields being slaughtered,
49:49
is astounding. It is absolutely jaw-droppingly amazing
49:51
film. Totally. And for it, like I
49:54
think we've all, we may have seen
49:56
this one. on YouTube, but there's like
49:58
a scene where he's running across all
50:00
the soldiers advancing out of the trenches.
50:02
And there's actually a YouTube which shows
50:04
the arc of the cam that's following
50:06
him. At certain stages, soldiers smash into
50:09
him and he rolls on the floor.
50:11
They keep rolling, you get back up
50:13
and kept something like that. And it
50:15
makes it like. Better? You look at
50:17
it and you go, oh, that was
50:19
staged. It wasn't, but it makes it
50:21
better. So, like, and there's this, this
50:24
show is full of that type of
50:26
stuff. There are so many clever moments.
50:28
And of course, it's not really a
50:30
one take film. Of course, they do
50:32
cut somewhere else. No, no, no. It's
50:34
like Birdman. In fact, there's a moment
50:36
in the film where they clearly delineate
50:39
the difference, because we're a great. that
50:41
kind of film. It's one thing to
50:43
do a one-shot take through a city
50:45
and in fact I watched a horror
50:47
movie the other night called Mads which
50:49
is a one-shot sort of horror film
50:51
which follows a character who's taking some
50:54
drugs and goes to his home and
50:56
then goes to a party then it
50:58
stays within this one very small location
51:00
like this town or this... Is it
51:02
too much hopeful that Mads Mikkelsen is
51:04
in it? He's not in it. Okay.
51:06
No, that would be too much hopeful.
51:09
This film is a sweeping saga across
51:11
battlefields and it's following, not across an
51:13
entire country, that would be too grandiose
51:15
to suggest, but a very wide swath
51:17
of land. It's never boring. In 120
51:19
minutes film, it's never boring. In 120
51:21
minutes film, it's never boring. You're always
51:23
locked in with these guys with Lance
51:26
Corporal Schofield and Lance Corporal Blake. You
51:28
want them to succeed so much. They
51:30
managed to characterize these guys very, very,
51:32
very well. before in this film and
51:34
jeez you so want them to win
51:36
to survive and to deliver that message.
51:38
One of the things that I also
51:41
loved about it was it the way
51:43
that it's shot you kind of there's
51:45
two characters and they're whatever they were
51:47
coming from a fight and you see
51:49
the one of the characters basically gets
51:51
capped but you don't see it happen
51:53
you see the other guy react to
51:56
it and it's sort of like what
51:58
the effect of that scene is is
52:00
that it's almost casual and and and
52:02
kind of workaday that people are dying
52:04
all over the place. And it's just
52:06
a really interesting way to put that
52:08
together. I'm like, holy shit, they did
52:11
that. It wasn't this like grandiose kind
52:13
of shot. It was this in line
52:15
with the rest of the movie kind
52:17
of shot. Very cool. Just Sam Mendez
52:19
is a gangster. What is on sale?
52:21
Like, obviously, you make Specter. Well, Expecter's
52:23
problem wasn't the filmmaking for 10 Academy
52:26
Awards. at the 90-second the game awards
52:28
and it won three as well as
52:30
winning numerous other accolades. Wow. Yeah, no,
52:32
it deserves it. Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. They
52:34
totally know it and I believe Roger
52:36
Deacons won the cinematography, best, best cinematography
52:38
in this particular film. He's probably won
52:41
that a thousand times, right? No, I
52:43
think this might have been it for
52:45
him. Let me, let me double check
52:47
that statement. It won best cinematography giving
52:49
Roger Deacons, if not his first, they're
52:51
coming award than maybe more than maybe
52:53
more than maybe second, best, best, best,
52:56
visual effects. So yeah, but not best
52:58
director or best film. No, it was
53:00
nominated. Didn't win either of those two.
53:02
So I can't remember what did win.
53:04
I was obviously but hurt at that
53:06
point in time. Nice one. All right.
53:08
Well, that's also my number two, Paul.
53:11
So yes, can also confirm deacons one
53:13
for Blaiver 2049. Okay. So he has
53:15
won it twice. Great look and show.
53:17
My number two then, Wayne, straight back
53:19
to me, as you said, is not
53:21
Spider, Spidera Colin. into the spider verse
53:23
it is spider hyphen man colon across
53:26
the spider hyphen verse so the second
53:28
one better than the first you reckon
53:30
now I kind of I'm actually not
53:32
I don't have a problem with this
53:34
it is fucking leasing I know this
53:36
is a controversial opinion right I get
53:38
everyone will pick the first one first
53:40
and I will not argue with you
53:43
I'm so happy the first one on
53:45
your list yeah obviously I'm not sandwiching
53:47
them both in here or what if
53:49
I could well you often do so
53:51
I'm kind of surprised But
53:54
for sheer jaw dropping spectacle
53:56
there were three or four
53:58
six but primarily one really
54:01
stands up my mind watching
54:03
this at the advanced screening because no
54:05
one had said anything about this man or
54:07
how good this one can't be as good
54:09
as the first one is my attitude I
54:12
went in with absolutely it cannot reach that
54:14
bar and I came out there going oh
54:16
my god the motherfuckers did it. Yeah. They
54:19
pulled this off. It is impossible to my
54:21
mind to match that first film for how
54:23
good it was and yet they somehow they
54:25
did it and they did it by, as
54:28
you suggested, having all these different artistic styles
54:30
as well as maintaining Miles Morales as a
54:32
wonderful character and having Gwen Stacey. as a
54:34
wonderful foil for him. And in
54:37
fact, this film is almost more
54:39
her film than is his film.
54:41
And there's nothing wrong with that?
54:43
It's great. It's great. It's great.
54:45
It's great. Yeah. And then... The
54:47
beginning thing where she's drumming and
54:49
giving the thing that I was
54:51
like, the music, Daniel Pemberton's music,
54:53
the visuals, with so many different
54:55
animation styles. But there's a moment
54:57
that they're having the most for this
54:59
movie. They're hanging upside down looking
55:01
and I'm like, and I'm like...
55:03
Oh my god, my stomach dropped
55:06
out. Absolutely. I felt vertigo. No
55:08
film never done that to me,
55:10
except the one about the rock climber.
55:12
Yeah, yeah. Free solo. Free solo,
55:14
yeah. This is an animated movie
55:16
and it's bringing out this visceral
55:18
reaction in my body and then
55:20
where it ends, I'm like, oh my, I
55:23
love this movie so. So much you know
55:25
like the only thing that you could say
55:27
in its not defense or whatever you're against
55:29
it is that the back to the future to
55:31
ask I like yeah I know we sort of
55:33
knew well I knew there was a third one
55:35
come we knew it was a third one I
55:38
didn't think it was gonna drop completely didn't bother
55:40
me at all I know my daughter I'm sure
55:42
we one of those people would say oh my
55:44
god I hope you don't shoot well for me
55:46
yeah didn't care and I'm I can't wait
55:48
because to wait because to my mind if that
55:50
third film that third film even Yeah, even
55:53
if it's like, yeah, if this is a, if
55:55
it's only a four stuff, best drill you ever
55:57
made. Yeah, it drops more completely as two and
55:59
a half or. God for a bit of
56:01
failure, maybe not. Still a contender. But
56:03
if it gets, if the last film
56:05
is satisfying, best trilogy ever made. That's
56:08
how much I love these two films.
56:10
I own them both on 4K. I've
56:12
watched this one three times already already.
56:14
Yeah. And I don't rewatch films. Yeah.
56:16
I don't. Yeah. Because I have too
56:18
much new stuff to consume. Exactly. Which
56:20
you feel with a podcast. Yeah. Three
56:23
times in 18 months I watched this
56:25
movie. Well you know the first one,
56:27
it might be four, it might be
56:29
six. Well in the trailer there's like
56:31
Spider-Man that seems to be like floating
56:33
in the air and then you see
56:35
that it's actually upside down the cities
56:38
on top of him and then they
56:40
turn it like, that kind of class
56:42
is what is, and it's all over
56:44
this world. And we get to the
56:46
point where there's hundreds of spider people
56:48
chasing him. It's so exciting. That was
56:51
all, I'm gonna do my own thing.
56:53
That was like the shit at the
56:55
shit at the end there, but even
56:57
from the end there, but even from
56:59
the beginning. But even from the beginning.
57:01
You were so behind him. I've very
57:03
few times have I in a cinema
57:06
been able to meditate a little step
57:08
back for myself and go I'm having
57:10
such a good time watching this and
57:12
it was when she was drumming and
57:14
talking I'm like oh this is a
57:16
good way to start it it's amazing
57:19
you know it's like oh look at
57:21
this I didn't expect it and they
57:23
gave me the good surprises all over
57:25
I downloaded three or four tracks of
57:27
the soundtrack I still listen to some
57:29
of them on my long runs yeah
57:31
yeah fucking love this movie across the
57:34
spider versus spider versus my second best
57:36
film we've ever Run us through your
57:38
list then and then we reveal, I
57:40
believe, I'm not wrong, our number one
57:42
together. It's not because you've already mentioned
57:44
my number one. Oh fuck. Then we
57:47
know, then we have a consensus number
57:49
one, it's 1917. Okay, yeah, okay, fair
57:51
enough. I can't believe what it was
57:53
on your list. Hang on the table,
57:55
get in the beer. Okay. Number three,
57:57
eight. I don't know what the fuck's
57:59
going on. Seven, mission impossible fallout, six,
58:02
sicario, five, into the spiderverse, spider. and
58:04
so on. Number four, top gun map,
58:06
top gun, fuck it, I'm not doing
58:08
that, top gun map break. Number three,
58:10
Avengers, no colon, infinity war. Number two
58:12
was 1917 and of course, unfortunately, a
58:14
bit of anti-clamic, baby driver was the
58:17
best movie I saw. It's so fucking
58:19
good, really, because it's. What's
58:23
the fuck? It did things others didn't do.
58:25
Word. My three, you're two, 19-17 is a
58:27
consensus number one then. Baby drive would be
58:30
our number two. But what's your number one?
58:32
For the podcast. Let's go back to a
58:34
point. I'm stunned that mine mine is not
58:36
on your list way. It's probably the, I
58:38
can't believe I didn't do it. It'd be
58:41
one of those. Let's hear it. I hope
58:43
it. I hope it's then, counting back through.
58:45
Then counting back through before we get through
58:47
before we get there. Before we get there.
58:49
Number eight, mission, colon, impossible, hyphen, fallout. Number
58:52
seven, baby driver, boring league. Number six, John
58:54
McCullen, chapter four, number four, train to bazaar,
58:56
number three, nineteen, seventeen, number two, spider, hyphen,
58:58
man, colon, fuck quit. Across the spider, hyphen,
59:00
verse, stick. And my number one, also has
59:02
a colon in it, thankfully. Oh good. It
59:05
is a fine film. Such a fine film
59:07
that my wife and daughter bought me the
59:09
book about the making of this This year
59:11
as I talk about it all the fucking
59:13
time It's all the earth and contrarians said
59:16
I wonder what the over under is on
59:18
Paul having this on his list and I
59:20
said to him the chances are $1 It's
59:22
Mad Max Colin fury fucking road. Oh fuck
59:24
off. God is not on my fucking list.
59:27
It's very good I'm holding here blood, comma,
59:29
sweat, ampersand. Shut up, Dickey! The wild and
59:31
true story of Mademax Cullen, which is a
59:33
novel, well let's not, Paul is literally holding
59:35
a book, a hardcover book. This is one
59:37
that my, my wife and daughter bought me
59:40
for my birthday this year. Oh very nice.
59:42
And about halfway through it, what was started.
59:44
I was on a recent holiday in Singers.
59:46
Let me see it, Kunti. Yeah. It contains
59:48
a lot of really interesting information about how
59:51
this film came to be made and how
59:53
long it took to come to fruition and
59:55
then I haven't got to the production of
59:57
it yet, it's still in the setup. And
59:59
some of the people that they were going
1:00:01
to have on it, is most of the
1:00:04
interviews with all the cast and the crew,
1:00:06
Charlie Theron, Tom Hardy, they're all in there,
1:00:08
George Miller is a huge presence where he
1:00:10
gets interviewed throughout the whole thing, the whole
1:00:12
thing, the whole thing, the whole thing, the
1:00:15
whole thing, the whole thing, the whole thing,
1:00:17
the whole thing, the producers, the producers, the
1:00:19
producers, the producers, the producers, the producers, the
1:00:21
producers, the producers, the producers, the producers, the
1:00:23
producers, the producers, the producers, the producers, the
1:00:26
producers as well, the producers, the producers as
1:00:28
well, the producers, the producers, the producers, the
1:00:30
producers, the, the producers, the, the It should
1:00:32
have died on the vine before it even
1:00:34
got close to production. And yet George Miller's
1:00:36
singular vision for it, he kept pushing through
1:00:39
it. They even talk about his history of
1:00:41
how he became kind of almost direct to
1:00:43
jail for some of the failures that he
1:00:45
had at the box office. Yeah. And then
1:00:47
eventually. Happy Feet is what got this movie
1:00:50
made. Really? I'm looking at the book jacket
1:00:52
and on the back is a quote from
1:00:54
Charlies Theron saying, hands down, this is the
1:00:56
hardest thing I've ever done. There's a level
1:00:58
of the body remembers trauma related to the
1:01:01
experience of shooting this film and that's still
1:01:03
there for me. Holy shit. Yeah, like it's
1:01:05
so good the way it really picks this
1:01:07
apart. Like you will understand, I believe, because
1:01:09
I'm literally said halfway through it, this book,
1:01:11
you'll understand everything that what happened on this
1:01:14
particular production. And it's fascinating. It is so
1:01:16
fascinating, including who they considered it and wanted
1:01:18
to have other than Mel Gibson was going
1:01:20
to be Mad Max all the way up
1:01:22
until all the way up until his controversies.
1:01:25
Like he came in. He came in. He
1:01:27
came in. He came back. He came back.
1:01:29
Yeah. And he was so much. He was
1:01:31
going to be the Mad Max in this
1:01:33
film. Yeah. But when it was going to
1:01:36
be made 10 years before. Oh, 10 years
1:01:38
before. All right. 15 years to get. I
1:01:40
thought it. I thought it. I thought it.
1:01:42
I thought it was like. I thought it
1:01:44
was like. I thought it was like. I
1:01:46
don't script. It's always going to be this
1:01:49
whole thing about Max getting involved with rescuing
1:01:51
these brides from this this this despot and
1:01:53
then eventually and also working with this incredible
1:01:55
female warrior. That's always been the plot George
1:01:57
Miller's mind. Wow. Evolve from there and how
1:02:00
it got built up from there and how
1:02:02
this was one of the only films. it
1:02:04
was ever, it was all made from sort
1:02:06
of panels, like that's how they put it
1:02:08
all up around the room. Storyboards? Yeah, storyboards,
1:02:10
but they did that before, they did it,
1:02:13
they wrote the script from the storyboards, I
1:02:15
think, so they would bring all the people
1:02:17
in and show, here's what we're going to
1:02:19
do, and just walk them around this massive
1:02:21
room in this basically circle. So a lot
1:02:24
of great stories like that in this particular
1:02:26
book, and I could go into the fact,
1:02:28
I'll give you one, I'll hit it, hit
1:02:30
it, hit it. When did it release? 2015.
1:02:32
Shit. Yeah. Also that means Mel Gibson was
1:02:35
going to play that movie. He was going
1:02:37
to be the Tom Hardy version of Mad
1:02:39
Max back that long ago. So there you
1:02:41
go. That's probably enough. I don't need to
1:02:43
go any further into it. So how interesting
1:02:45
that would have been good. That's how long
1:02:48
George maintained his vision for this film. Wow.
1:02:50
Okay. And I'm still a little gutter to
1:02:52
this day that. Which is only six months
1:02:54
ago, whatever it was, that Furio came out
1:02:56
and didn't do better than it did. Because
1:02:59
that's the end. There'll be no more Mad
1:03:01
Max films. We are now done with what
1:03:03
we have. But Billy Dunham got to work
1:03:05
on that last one. So we always like
1:03:07
to drop that in there. Billy B. Dizzle.
1:03:10
Friend of the show. Wonderful human being in
1:03:12
his own right. B. Dizzle. And then we
1:03:14
watch the thing podcast and the potty mouth
1:03:16
radio network. Go over. Go over. Check him.
1:03:18
Check him. Check him. Check him. Check him.
1:03:20
Stund. Stund? No, I'm not at all. Let
1:03:23
me give you my A-champs, Pauli. Can I
1:03:25
do it? All right. Rogue One. Sing Street.
1:03:27
The shape of water. I, Tonya, believe it
1:03:29
or not. Shh, shape of water. Shh, shape
1:03:31
of water. Shape of water. Shape of water,
1:03:34
it's a fuck a good man. Black Clansman,
1:03:36
very surprised. Very surprised. Nice. And last night.
1:03:38
In Christian Bale? It's about Dick Cheney. It's
1:03:40
amazing. I think I might watch that movie.
1:03:42
Wow! Fucking great, really great. He fucking- Better
1:03:44
than your princess? Yes, okay, yes, much so.
1:03:47
Yeah, and love that and soul. There you
1:03:49
go. Yeah, the other egg, right, film. My,
1:03:51
I mentioned Spider-Man, the Spider-verse, the Suicide Scored.
1:03:53
Very close. Yeah, oh good show. Good show.
1:03:55
The Suicide Squad. Correct. That is the right
1:03:58
one. What the piece of shit? What's his
1:04:00
name? David A-1. Yep. Infested, a film from
1:04:02
this year. What? Okay. Get prepared to hear
1:04:04
about that one again before this podcast disappears
1:04:06
at the way the podcast disappears at the
1:04:09
way the dodo. Three billboards outside Ebbing, comma,
1:04:11
sorry, comma, Missouri. It's Colin chapter one and
1:04:13
Midsummer. Oh really. Sorry, never mind. Okay, go
1:04:15
on, you go on. Is it Big Jug
1:04:17
7? Yes, eight. That's Alice, what about yours,
1:04:19
wrap up every episode on the podcast with
1:04:22
your feedback on the topic of your hand
1:04:24
and the segment of the week all. The
1:04:26
pop 10. Talk about. Kicking off this week,
1:04:28
pop 10 with Jamie Davies. Number three, arrival.
1:04:30
Number two, Midsoma, number one, Parasite. Parasite, you
1:04:33
mentioned a lot. Really? Wow, okay, cool. Tony
1:04:35
Dubish had, top of my head, get out,
1:04:37
Fury Road, and Parasite. Good man, could be.
1:04:39
Steve Betson had, number three, he hereditary, number
1:04:41
two, Mad Max, Fury Road, it's like Dick
1:04:44
Wayne, one, once upon a time in Hollywood.
1:04:46
I think that movie has grown on me,
1:04:48
because the first time you and I saw
1:04:50
it and I saw it, you and I
1:04:52
saw it, we were like, you and I
1:04:54
saw it, we were like, we were like,
1:04:57
we were like, we were like, we were
1:04:59
like, we were like, and I mean, like,
1:05:01
and I mean, like, like, like, like, like,
1:05:03
like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,
1:05:05
like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,
1:05:08
like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,
1:05:10
it, I think he's going to George R.R.
1:05:12
Martin. You think he's not going to do
1:05:14
the supposed 10th or whatever you call the
1:05:16
10th one? Really? You reckon. Surely not. All
1:05:18
the money needs to make. He's got all
1:05:21
the foot models in the world. He said
1:05:23
10 films. He said it. George Martin also
1:05:25
said that fucking the song of some of
1:05:27
us and fire is going to be six
1:05:29
books. I'm not sure who he's trying to
1:05:32
hurt here Wayne more than me. Or possibly
1:05:34
you, give me a list, 23 Halloween ends.
1:05:36
Let's go. What the f- Right, come on.
1:05:38
No, he's, he's, he's number two, Batman v
1:05:40
Superman, Colin, Dawn of Justice. Yeah, he's fucking
1:05:43
with us. He's fucking with us. He's fucking
1:05:45
with us. We all know what's going on
1:05:47
here. Joe Doherty had number three billboards. I'm
1:05:49
saying it's good. I'm just thinking, okay, we're
1:05:51
going to go. Timothy Williams had prey. Simple
1:05:53
but effective. That's how you do a predator
1:05:56
movie. Great show. Great show. Number two, Lujan.
1:05:58
Don't think Stephen Merchant gets enough love for
1:06:00
his role as Taliban and a boy on
1:06:02
the holdovers. That is shocking. This went straight
1:06:04
to my top of my X-Men movies rotation.
1:06:07
I only watched X-Men movies in December. What
1:06:09
was that? So, yeah, cool. Jonathan Land had
1:06:11
this to be a choose from number three
1:06:13
Mad Max Firo Do you get the consensus
1:06:15
you got this one? Number two burning number
1:06:18
one parasite which near us had on Alice
1:06:20
the aforementioned Joey Carlo from the so wizard
1:06:22
podcast wonderful show check him out number three
1:06:24
everything everywhere all at once. Number two psycho
1:06:26
gorman number one Spiderman Colin into the spiderverse.
1:06:28
There you go. Now I'm not sure whether
1:06:31
this is also a troll Wayne. Let's here
1:06:33
number three in game game. Number two infinity
1:06:35
or number one. Baywatch. That's from Luke Alexander.
1:06:37
Definitely a troll, but you know what? I
1:06:39
didn't mind Baywatch. So my man. You didn't
1:06:42
mind it. We're near your talk. No, no,
1:06:44
no, no, we go on a thing like
1:06:46
this, but you hated it and I'm like,
1:06:48
yeah, it's fine. Matt Evans. Old school made
1:06:50
a mind of mine. Number three, parasite, number
1:06:53
two, lighthouse. One, the holdovers again. Two holdovers,
1:06:55
number one, two holdovers, number one. Two holdovers,
1:06:57
number one, number, number, number, number, number, number,
1:06:59
number, number one, two, one, two, one, one,
1:07:01
two, one, two, one, one, one, one, one,
1:07:03
one, one, two, one, one, one, one, one,
1:07:06
one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one,
1:07:08
one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one,
1:07:10
one, one, one, one, one, one, Aston Harris
1:07:12
had number three John week four number two
1:07:14
baby driving number one both spiderverse films they
1:07:17
are tied for me fair fair and I'll
1:07:19
allow it Wayne shut up very Polish Josh
1:07:21
Ragson had number three everything every all the
1:07:23
once. Number two, Joe, Joe Rabbit. Number one,
1:07:25
Spider-Man, Colin, into the Spider-Man. All right. Most
1:07:27
people ride the Colin out, by the way.
1:07:30
I'm just letting you know. Fuck off. Stupid.
1:07:32
Stupid. All the podcast had. Number three, everything
1:07:34
everywhere all at once again. Number two, triple-R.
1:07:36
Hey. Number two, triple R. Hey. That was
1:07:38
a good film. And number one, Spider-Man. Into.
1:07:41
Let's go. You mean above the law? Rogue
1:07:43
one and the spiderverse. Okay. All right, last
1:07:45
couple to wrap it up there in our
1:07:47
mate, Jared Demender. I better get involved. You
1:07:49
said three episodes to go. Number three, Spiderman,
1:07:52
into the spiderverse. Number two, Avengers. Colin, Infinity
1:07:54
War, number one. Train to Bassan. There you
1:07:56
are, Wayne. The underline on this week's review
1:07:58
we've agreed upon. And lastly, Marcel McLean. Be
1:08:00
a first time could you be the show
1:08:02
if not, Marcel. I just apologize. Number three,
1:08:05
Moonlight, the only time I've ever agreed with
1:08:07
the best picture, Oscar winner. Number two, John
1:08:09
McCullen, Chapter Four, the best job week so
1:08:11
far. Hell yeah. And number one, Spider-Man, across
1:08:13
the Spider-verse. Yes, I thought this is better
1:08:16
the first one. So did I, Marcel. So
1:08:18
did I. All right. I love it. You
1:08:20
have the same as Miss Rosses monkey. Rosses
1:08:22
monkey. And that you listen to our show,
1:08:24
my man. Thank you very much. I think
1:08:27
you should love more. Yes. That's it. Thank
1:08:29
you so much ever got back to it.
1:08:31
Sorry I couldn't get through all the favorite.
1:08:33
Really, truly do appreciate you taking the time.
1:08:35
It's been, once again, a pleasure, Wayne. How
1:08:37
are the good folks getting in touch with
1:08:40
us? Let us know, Wayne. How are the
1:08:42
good folks, get in touch with this? Let
1:08:44
us know, the feedback on the topics that
1:08:46
are all concerned. The feedback on the topics
1:08:48
that all concerned. The topics that are all
1:08:51
concerned, are all concerned, are all concerned, are
1:08:53
all concerned, with three, on the topics that
1:08:55
all concerned, on the, on the, on the
1:08:57
topics, on the topics, on the, on the,
1:08:59
on the topics, on the, on the, on
1:09:01
the topics, on the, on the topics, on
1:09:04
the, on the, on the topics, on the,
1:09:06
on the topics, on the, on the, on
1:09:08
the, on the, on the Facebook, listen to
1:09:10
me, no you haven't, link is in the
1:09:12
show that's get involved, not too late, it
1:09:15
never will be too late. Word. All right,
1:09:17
that's it, next week Wayne, why we're doing
1:09:19
for 4.9. The third last episode of said
1:09:21
weekly podcast. Well, here's a fun one, this
1:09:23
is gonna be. The top 10. movies or
1:09:26
TV shows that made
1:09:28
us are. All we are. are?
1:09:30
All right, and who
1:09:32
we are, that's up
1:09:34
for know but we'll
1:09:36
know what got us
1:09:39
there in terms of
1:09:41
movies and TVs that show,
1:09:43
what? What? difficult one
1:09:45
to give feedback on.
1:09:47
So here's what feedback on. So
1:09:50
here's what I'm gonna one and
1:09:52
give us an explanation.
1:09:54
one. Pick see two, three
1:09:56
us an why this show
1:09:58
see film made you
1:10:01
who you are today. slash
1:10:03
that's the ones we'll
1:10:05
get right out next
1:10:07
are today. Yes. And right, great.
1:10:09
the ones to been an
1:10:11
absolute pleasure announcing the the
1:10:14
best films think that we
1:10:16
have dealt with over
1:10:18
the course of the
1:10:20
of the Thank you so
1:10:22
much for joining us
1:10:25
today. joining us My name
1:10:27
My My name is
1:10:29
Wayne. My And this has
1:10:31
been the been the soundboard sadly
1:10:33
even though Wayne even though
1:10:35
Wayne deserves not on there. Road
1:10:38
are a sad, strange
1:10:40
little man and you
1:10:42
have my my pity. But Fury
1:10:44
Road this way. catch
1:10:46
you next time. We'll go
1:10:49
next time. See ya!
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