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Today on our show, we are counting

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down the top 10 films which made us who

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we are. Movies that made us. Let's hit it

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Paulie. Shoo, doo, doo, doo, doo,

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doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, da,

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da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da,

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da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da,

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da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da.

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I just realized the value of your staccato

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and how good it is to do. Ha

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ha ha ha ha. I know you're

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taking the piss, so fuck you. Welcome

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to episode 498 of

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the Countdown podcast. My name's Wayne. My name

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is Paul. Welcome to Countdown stuff in order

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of awesomeness so you don't have to. Today's

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stuff, films that are personal to us. Films

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that help make us the people that we

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have become in whatever odd and strange ways

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that may be. So it was a very

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personal episode. The third last in the weekly

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episode series, 498 Countdown. So

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we are closing the shop up on episode 500. The

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weekly shop up. The weekly shop up.

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We'll hear from us sporadically after that

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moving forward. So yeah, this one,

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one of the more personal ones we're gonna do,

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it felt appropriate to touch base on this kind

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of thing. Wayne, was the list hard for you

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to make? Initially I thought it would be difficult.

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What then ended up happening was that I had

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200 options. Really? Yeah,

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because like, but then you have to narrow

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it down to say, look, I loved this

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movie growing up, but did it define me?

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Did it make me? Favorite films, best films,

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no worries at all. Easy as, but what

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was the meaning? How did it shape

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me into the person I have become? That was tough.

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I still had like 20 that would do that, but did you

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have a hard time? I did. I found this

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much more difficult than I thought I would. Interesting, because I could

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lean like five movies off the bat that I think would make

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you. Well, we'll see what that might make my list. I

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think maybe part of it, cause I was reflecting on this while I was

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doing this this morning, which was late to me. Normally

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I have this thing organized very, very early. Thursday night is

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my writing night. But I was like, oh yeah, I put

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it off cause I wasn't sure how to approach it. Absolutely.

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I wonder if it's because you're more of a creative person

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than I am that this therefore is easier for

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you to define. Cause I'll watch a movie and go, that

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was fantastic. I loved it. but I didn't really

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change much about me. Yeah. I think with me, I'm just

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more ready to assign blame than you are. So

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I fuck up. Well, I fuck up these things. And

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it's because of this movie right here. And I've always

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known it. In talking,

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actually reading over some of the fantastic listener feedback we

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got for this topic. And I wish we could just

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read everyone's list and not do ours. And that would

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be a great episode too. But there

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was one mention of a film on there, which probably should have

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made my list that maybe I'll do a last second change. It's

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one of those things. Oh shit, that should have been on me.

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So that happens sometimes when you read the feedback, but

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I did it after I did my list because it

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is such a personal thing. So I would expect there'd

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be lots and lots of different films here for this

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particular countdown. So all right, default this one hard to

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assign. Maybe it'll be amusing for

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the folks to listen to go like, what? Seriously,

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we know what's wrong with Wayne, but maybe here's

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why, you know, that kind of thing. And

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of course to relate, you know, and reflect upon your

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own shit. Yeah, you're right. That did make me think

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this. That's how I rolled. That's how it's going to

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be then. All right. No recount this week. Nothing to

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feed back again. Last chances for you all. If you

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want to give us an email, you want to send

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some messages about the end of the

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weekly show, the end of what we've been doing

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for almost 10 years, your opportunities running out. It's

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all I'm going to say. We'll put out a

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call though for something for the last episodes. Keep

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an eye out for that in the Facebook listener

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community link is in the show notes. If you'd

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like to get involved, Wayne, then the way we

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start things off these days as we come towards

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the end of the John Farnham goodbye to a

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really is the third last show. Well,

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take the pressure down. Well,

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we're the voice trying to understand it. Here

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we go. That's that's

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that's that's is

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the subject of this week's countdown

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as you're already aware, Wayne. I don't know.

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I'll take it away. This week. First cab

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off the rank. Let's go son. Not easy

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at all. As I mentioned, so my number

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10 is the one should I have that

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one here? Just let

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it play son. Yeah. I'm going to go with that. My

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number 10 is a film which one

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of the listeners in their feedback put me back onto

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it. I totally forgot about it. It

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is from relatively early in life. And I guess the point

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here is also that most of

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these things, most of these films are

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gonna be earlier in life. Of course. Because

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it's during your 40s. All my shit is 80s

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and then a few 90s. I've got my latest

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film on my list. I don't think there's anything

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from this millennium. Yeah, 1999 is the latest film

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on my list. So this one then is a

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pretty good film. And

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one which we saw Wayne together at

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a formative point in our relationship lives.

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It's Swingers. Oh shit. Low.

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But yes. Okay, it's on your list too. Toads, Toads.

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Like I said, I had totally blanked on this one.

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But Swingers, obviously directed by John Favreau, written by, do

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you think it's more than right as well? I

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think, no, I think John Favreau either wrote

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it or co-wrote it with someone. I

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saw- No, written by Doug Favreau. Oh,

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it's not directed, directed by Doug Lyman. I totally forgot that. That's

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right. And then you got John Favreau and of course stars he

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and Vince Vaughn. They were a bit of a duo for a

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while. And then now that they've gone there, obviously separate ways. The

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budget of this film is only 250,000 dollars. Very

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low budget film. Basically just about two

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guys in LA in their twenties. Yep.

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With their friends. Who are in John Favreau's character's

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case. Mike, he's trying to get over the end

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of a recent relationship. And Vince Vaughn is his

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overconfident friend. Who's like, here's how you pick up

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women. That's right. Here's how you approach this game.

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Here's how you do it better. And it's following

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these two and they're sort of wide a group

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of friends. And they're

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all like LA dudes. So they're trying to

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get into either TV or movie or acting

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or whatever. First of all, I just

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happened to see a podcast with Ron Livingston on it.

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Yeah. Who was in the show. Yeah. They

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were like, how did you come across this film? He said, first

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of all, after 400,000 rejections, right? It

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would just happen to be that I knew John Favreau

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and John Favreau was trying to get this movie made

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around town and it

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was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Finally,

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like Doug Lyman happened to see the script. I can

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make this, you know, cause he was already a director

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at the time. And then John Favreau

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was like, oh, I got a friend, Vince Vaughn, and then I

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got a friend, and they just

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started piling people in, right? And he

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said that what everyone found when they saw the film,

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and we thought this as well when we saw it,

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is that it was a funny enough film, right? And

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we liked it for our own reasons, but Vince Vaughn

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just lit off the page.

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They said, Vince Vaughn, he was so handsome,

6:18

he was so charming, and he was so

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like in your, he was the thing about

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the movie. He was money, baby, right? And

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they said, yeah, that's why he became a star. And

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that's why he became the biggest star, probably other than

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John Favreau. But he became a star behind the camera.

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Behind the camera, right? So that was that. But for

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us, right? I don't know about you, but for the

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swingers thing, I remember we were the age of these

6:38

kids. We're probably slightly younger. Slightly younger? So we were

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like, what, 23? 20, 21. 20, 21. They were 23,

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24, okay? And

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the idea here, ladies and gentlemen, in

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this film is that you have all

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of these youngish dudes out

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in LA at the time, and they're moving from

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party to party. This place did anyway. And what,

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I guess, for me, sorry, I'm taking over your

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choice here, but. No, no, no, your choice too.

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For me, it was that they, and

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John Favreau in particular, was having the

7:04

same problems with women that I had

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Paul. Insofar as, now as I

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recall, you had a girlfriend. I was

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single and just pounding my dick, right?

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So. Yes, I did have a girlfriend.

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Yes, okay. See, I was like alone.

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John Favreau said in this film once, he said,

7:20

I can't be one of those drunken assholes, man. I can't be one

7:22

of those guys who rolls up to women in a bar. And

7:25

I was like, yeah, I can't be one of those guys

7:27

either. Cause I've never had any, like, I don't work off

7:29

women in bars and you know, fuck me if I'm wrong,

7:31

but aren't you Elvis? I can't give him a line. Actually,

7:34

I like that one from, excuse me, are you

7:36

Irish? Cause my penis is Dublin. I

7:39

would never do that. Okay. And

7:42

then back then, before Tinder, ladies and

7:44

gentlemen, before dating us, we had to

7:46

do this shit like fucking manually. In

7:48

person, in vivo. Yeah. And

7:51

the actual, and I remember there was only

7:53

two specific avenues that I had actually discovered.

7:55

And that the first one was friends of

7:57

your friends, right? And friends of your female

7:59

friends. It

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was showing what it was like. And

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again, not because I took the same message out

10:04

at that particular point in time, but that the

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way of hitting on or approaching someone or expressing

10:08

your interest and how different it was for Mike

10:10

as someone who's in a relationship. And yeah, when

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he breaks up, he has broken up obviously as

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the film starts and how he's not really dealing

10:16

with that and how some of

10:19

the cringy moments in film history belong

10:21

to this film. The phone

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call, voice never called

10:25

me again. Oh my God, that still makes

10:28

me, it's so hard

10:30

to watch. Cause you can almost see it's maybe not

10:32

as far as this. I haven't done that, but certainly

10:34

making idiotic mistake on a phone message, you're leaving them

10:36

wanting to get call back and you don't want to

10:38

use this phones these days, I get it kids, you're

10:41

like, what the fuck are these idiots talking about? Exactly.

10:43

But it was different again back in the 90s. I

10:45

called one time too many times. This is one girl

10:47

I was really crazy about. And then like I called

10:49

and I left messages with a housemate like three times,

10:51

way too many times. Finally she calls me back and

10:54

I'm like, I'm just a fucking pussy at this stage.

10:58

So yeah, swing is in terms of that

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whole lifestyle thing. And yes, not

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copying or whatever, but hey, there is this

11:04

whole movement out there. We are not unusual.

11:07

And yes, it made us like, and also they all had

11:09

like, you know, steering locks kids. There

11:11

was used to be something like this one scene

11:13

in swingers where, and they all roll up in

11:15

a convoy. So they all drug cause LA they

11:17

drive, drive, drive, drive. Right. And

11:19

they get out of the car and just keep cutting

11:21

those fucking hilarious. Cause really we've got one of those.

11:23

And to this day in our

11:25

lexicon of our group remains this

11:27

place dead anyway. I

11:29

say all the time, go to a jumping party.

11:32

I'm pretty sure I was in Singapore recently. We

11:34

went to a place for a drink. I

11:37

walk in and I'm like, this place dead anyway. We walked straight

11:39

back out. I'm sure my wife had no idea.

11:41

Like what the fuck? I

11:43

had no idea, but she understood the concept but

11:45

not that I was referencing swingers. Of course. Maybe

11:47

she'll know now Paul. Yeah. There we go. That's

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my number 10 swingers. And we'll see how high

11:51

it goes for Wayne. Most deaf. Number 10, ladies

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and gentlemen, from me, there used to

11:55

be this movie called Goonies. Oh

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Goonies. Good enough. Good enough, baby. All right. So

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check it out, Cindy Loeffler. Oh, look, there's going

12:02

to be an OCR, which stands for old counter

12:04

rent. Now, it's actually not a rent. It's more

12:06

of an observation. Awesome music underneath you. Um, I

12:09

don't know if you have any country enough music.

12:12

So when I was a child, ladies and gentlemen,

12:14

I'm going to say 15. Yeah.

12:17

Now it's 15. So that would have been 80, almost

12:19

90. Yeah. If you were 15, it was 1990. Okay.

12:22

1990. So in my head, I was so much younger. I was like,

12:24

oh, it was in the 70s. Anyway, I

12:27

wasn't. What? No. In the early

12:29

70s. Anyway, I used to actually

12:31

do the thing where you would ride with

12:34

your friends around the hood. And I lived

12:36

in a place called Forest Field, where they

12:38

were actually creeks and bush and like on

12:41

like parks and stuff where I would take my

12:43

10 speed racer and they weren't added at

12:45

a 10 speed racer as well, except the one weird guy

12:47

who had a ladies racer and we called him names

12:50

and you're

12:53

mocking me. And then we would roll around

12:55

and literally we would ride by creeks and

12:57

with the Goonies, that's what the kids all

12:59

did, right? They were all on their bikes,

13:01

hanging out, doing stuff, having adventures. Now look,

13:03

I never fucking found a sale boat. I

13:05

didn't do all that shit. I didn't go

13:07

underground. He

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didn't say the docs. No. And more importantly,

13:12

I didn't meet any hot redheads, but right.

13:15

It was always the idea that it might happen.

13:17

I didn't have it. Or did you kiss your

13:19

older sisters? Yeah.

13:21

Yeah. Yeah. It's that doesn't make any sense.

13:23

That's right. Yeah. It didn't. And she was

13:25

obviously not into men. So the, where's

13:29

that? Where's that? Step from the Goonies. The

13:31

short head. Yes. Yes. And then for me

13:33

though, and I think that's why stranger things

13:35

are so is so like kind of popular

13:38

with old cunts because we all had that

13:40

kind of childhood. Now Paul, I have found

13:42

out and you would know better than me

13:44

as you have a child. Is a teenage

13:47

teenager? No, she's 11. Okay. I

13:49

don't know about anything. Hold on. Keep up. Keep me up.

13:51

All right. Well, I have a niece

13:53

who's 19. Right. Actually she's 20 now. Sorry. But

13:55

just kicking goals. Everybody's fucking kicking ass here. But

13:57

she said to me, did you know that? on

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my list. Now this is not because it was

16:02

a film adaptation of a TV show. I barely remembered all

16:04

because of promise. We were the big budget spectacles of

16:07

that particular summer. Sure. But this one shaped me because

16:09

it was directed by Brian De Palma. And

16:11

this is the first time I remember my life going to

16:13

see a film because I don't have the tea to the

16:15

sea love that you have. This is true. I

16:18

wasn't a Jerry McGaughys after mission impossible. Was it

16:20

before? Well after, well after I think 96. I

16:23

don't know. You

16:25

know, but in the last minute, I would, I

16:27

would imagine, but for me it was just because

16:29

I wanted to go and see the way he

16:32

filmed this, his Dutch angles, his camera movements, his

16:34

long takes. I was so excited. I

16:36

remember saying to my dad walking out of the house

16:38

that night, so pumped for this film because

16:40

the director, my dad looked at me like, what the fuck

16:42

are you talking about? I didn't know how to guess. And

16:45

yeah, I just

16:48

watching this film and seeing the way that he

16:50

did things so differently than many

16:53

other directors. I could identify that relatively early point in

16:55

my life. Paulie, I remember us talking about this because

16:57

we'll first of all, we heard about it. Hey, Tom

16:59

Cruise doing a mission possible film, but it's only him.

17:01

It's not a team. What is this? We didn't understand.

17:03

Well, we didn't know. I don't remember knowing that in

17:05

advance. I mean, they were getting killed off at the

17:08

start of my filming and merely wasted. We talked about

17:10

Scott Thomas and oh yeah. But yeah, then from there,

17:12

the way the film goes. And of course it's the

17:14

beginning of a franchise, which is going to last near

17:16

on 30 years by the time it potentially finishes. But

17:18

more importantly, it was, Oh, I want to

17:21

do this now. I want to see what

17:23

I can make. And it leads to this correlates directly

17:25

to around about the time that we started making student

17:27

films. That's right. It brought this creative

17:29

side out in me, which I'd always thought about doing

17:31

it. See another film earlier later in my list, but

17:34

this made it real or helped make it real.

17:36

Well, you know, it's my number nine. Oh yeah.

17:38

Well, I remember Paulie, there was to be a

17:41

show called entertainment tonight and on

17:43

that, ET, that's right. And I think slow round

17:45

could be wrong. And on that they showed a

17:47

snippet of when he was on the helicopter, the

17:50

helicopter exploded and the camera with one shot. You

17:52

see him fall towards you and onto the train

17:54

and it's still his face shot from the side.

17:57

It's sort of 45. It's sort of, yeah. right?

22:00

Then the fact you're sharing that experience with

22:02

other people who are all, hopefully

22:04

the film's good. Obviously this film was good. Getting

22:06

off on what's on screen in front of it,

22:09

lapping it up, whooping and hollering. Maybe not quite

22:11

what we see in American films, but still nevertheless,

22:13

like you can feel the energy of the room

22:15

inflate with a good film as people are just

22:17

taking along for that ride. All of that stuff.

22:20

And yes, the cool battles and yes, the light serve

22:22

battles and yes, the plot developments. Look, some of which

22:25

probably lost to me as a five or six

22:27

year old. Cause I think like you just described I'd

22:30

seen star Wars, but I don't, I don't even know if

22:32

I linked the two together as closely as I should have.

22:34

Do you even remember like being surprised

22:36

by you? I am your father, right? Cause everyone

22:38

shut their pants, but I was too young. I

22:40

didn't know that's exactly the point. Too young to

22:42

really understand the implications of all of that. So

22:44

yeah, it was more the experience of cinema. It

22:47

was more the fact this is the first time

22:49

I'm like, and I remember right up the

22:51

stairs and you know, excitedly around the outside of the queue

22:53

to rejoin for wherever I'd gone to be with the rest

22:55

of my family and just be like, what

22:57

is this? What is this? Dude, do you even have

22:59

that? Very high on my list. You know what? The,

23:01

the, the star was that right. That actually feels still

23:06

big to me. I hear that orchestra. Then I hear

23:08

it. And I also have this moment wherever I leave

23:10

a cinema where I'm looking up at how high the

23:12

ceilings are. There could be a cinema or a theater

23:14

and I'm like, Oh my God, we'll just saw something.

23:17

There's all these people here. I get it. Shared this

23:19

experience. Cool. All right. That's your nine.

23:21

What's your nine? Mine about eight, actually. Cause I

23:23

went first. Oh yeah. Mine about eight Wayne is

23:25

I'd be lying. I left this film off my

23:27

list. Gone. You often refer to it

23:29

as the film of our puberty. Okay. I was hoping

23:31

you'd have this because, Oh wait, shit. I have this

23:33

too. I can't believe it. I guess

23:36

we have our best mates for a reason. Basic

23:38

instinct. Ladies and gentlemen, it's higher on my list.

23:40

So keep going. I'd be lying. This sleazy, sleek

23:42

erotic thriller, which was, it's pretty much my favorite

23:44

film of all time. Is it not my best

23:46

film of all time. It's my favorite film of

23:48

all time. No, it's a favorite for sure. Now

23:51

it's, it was a metaphorical forbidden

23:54

fruit. This film came out in 1992. We were 17. Do

23:57

you remember the whole thing? I'm about to go into it.

24:00

for the upteenth time. I'm going to give you the short

24:02

Cliff Notes version. We weren't allowed to

24:04

see it. It's illegal to see it. It's R rated here in

24:06

Australia. You have to be 18 or above to see it regardless.

24:08

You can't go in with an adult. That's MA, which didn't exist

24:10

at the time. This particular film came out, or came out around

24:12

about the same time. The MA rating actually. Only you would know

24:15

that. Yeah. Because it was attached to Total Records, one of the

24:17

first films that got the MA rating. And

24:19

to sneak into this cinema with my absolute

24:21

best mate, Steve, and to get away with

24:23

it and watch this movie all the whole

24:25

time waiting to be called out for being

24:27

where we shouldn't be. It's like doing it

24:29

in an elevator. Go on. Keep

24:31

going. Keep going. It's so not like that unless you and

24:33

Steve did something I don't know about. Yeah,

24:38

probably not. But nevertheless, this one

24:40

completely blew my mind in terms

24:42

of, and probably created the archetype

24:44

of what I thought attractive was

24:46

Sharon Stone's Catherine Tramiel without

24:49

doubt the sexiest character. One thousand

24:51

percent for me that's ever graced

24:53

the screen. Would

24:55

you say for that? That it influenced

24:58

your proclivities going forward? I

25:04

don't know what I did influence it. No, no, it's

25:07

too gross. Mindful sometimes that my

25:09

ex boss listens to this show. She's

25:12

your ex boss, Paul. Let's go. Or

25:14

maybe people I work with. So we'll just keep it.

25:16

We'll keep it PG rated. Shall we? Paul will keep

25:18

it PG. You

25:20

can go as hard and deep as you want.

25:22

And often you do. I do. Yeah. Okay. So

25:25

basic instincts, my attire on my list. Let me

25:27

just say this. Let's let's put aside the fact

25:29

that that Sharon Stone was beautiful and it was

25:31

all heart and and nipples.

25:33

And let's just go with even

25:36

the surrounding thing about this. There's

25:38

something about basic instinct and something

25:40

about Nick Curran, Michael Douglas's character

25:42

that I really liked one. So he's a burned

25:44

out. Not burned out. He's a cop. He's a

25:46

San Francisco cop on the edge. Right. The danger.

25:49

But I remember because we also had the novelization

25:51

of this and in the novelization, it said on

25:53

track soundtrack. I even got the DVD with the

25:55

pic that's also a piece. I remember that. I

25:57

had that too. I think that's broken. I've got

25:59

it. I'm 4k. I'm like, Oh shit, I've watched

26:02

this on 4k yet. They should have given you

26:04

that's in my very near future. Absolutely. So, and

26:06

then in the, in the novel, and I remember

26:08

thinking this is like Nick Karen was a detective

26:10

in San Francisco, but his outfit

26:12

was a touch too stylish to be just

26:15

a detective. That's an interesting description of, I

26:17

think maybe applies this whole film, poor Verhoeven

26:19

film. The whole film's really stylish. Yes. It's

26:21

sleazy as fuck. It's Joe Esther has wrote

26:23

it. It was one of the

26:25

most expensive. I think this changed this film.

26:28

I think if it not the film is

26:30

because of this film that the writing credit

26:32

now goes after the producing credit in most

26:34

movies. Yes. And you know what?

26:36

This at the time when it came out was

26:38

one of the very few R rated cinematic releases

26:41

and it went through the roof. It actually did good

26:43

business. Bang. Gangbusters. I should clarify what

26:45

I mean there. Yeah. The latter in the credits

26:47

you go not, I mean, we always have the

26:49

stars. Top billing. And then we move through sort

26:51

of, you know, things that are still critically, everything's

26:53

critically important. I don't want to make it sound

26:56

like it's not, but the idea is it builds

26:58

to directed by, yes, which is arguably the most

27:00

important person on the film. Mm-hmm. And before that

27:02

was produced by people who put the money in,

27:04

organize the whole shit. Yep. And before that was

27:06

writing and screenplay credits, but then for whatever, however

27:08

it went, and if you read Joe Esther's book,

27:10

he does talk it through. Oh,

27:12

no book. He got it flipped around

27:14

so that now the writer was the

27:16

second to last billing on

27:18

the credits. See, that's the thing. That

27:21

was probably, like you said, the start of the

27:23

Hollywood star writer. You know, you know what that

27:25

has now you got like, what, Aaron Sorkin, he

27:27

might be a star writer. Very few people that

27:29

you hear the name. It's gone away again. Not

27:31

as long as it was back in the nineties.

27:33

I want to say. Yeah. But like, I mean,

27:35

that's the thing about this thing though, like him,

27:37

Nick's current being that guy's living in his apartment,

27:39

which was quite nice. He would get, he would

27:41

watch horror movies get drunk and cold to a

27:43

scene. This that whole thing was like, go

27:47

the direction is lighting this movie. I just think it's, I

27:51

know that people are laughing their ass off. Basically it's just

27:53

fucking soft porn. Sure. No, no, no. It's for you. Great.

27:55

I understand it. I'm not gonna, I'm not going to say

27:57

an argue with you. Let me tell you, they're a, The

28:00

price is in here. Like for example, that big,

28:02

like that needle looking building in San Francisco is

28:04

right down the street from where Nick Curran lives

28:06

and the camera lingers on it. And that is

28:08

actually a callback to the imagery of the pick,

28:10

the ice pick. And it goes all through this

28:12

film. There are sharp things, you can look at

28:14

it. This is not just a soft corn flick.

28:16

This is really a very masterful direction. I think

28:18

it is still my favorite role all the time.

28:20

So, yeah, good. We both got it here for

28:22

different, perhaps different reasons. But yeah, overall I did

28:24

say, well, how did I write it here? I'm

28:26

the first, the hardest person I ever seen at

28:28

that point in my life. So that was a

28:30

pretty inspiring for a 17 year old. Oh yeah.

28:32

Oh yeah. And I'm about to flip it all

28:34

on its head now, Paul. Oh, and I say,

28:36

and the fact that you didn't get into sick

28:38

or kicked out just adds so much. That

28:41

makes it better. But you remember that my

28:43

dad had connects back in the day and

28:45

he had the early copy of video, which

28:47

we dub. Time stamp in the corner. Time

28:49

stamped in the corner, almost a work print.

28:51

There you go. So, all right, my number

28:53

eight is point break. Interesting,

28:55

okay. Okay, let me tell you about point break. This

28:58

is the original one. Okay, thank God. Yes.

29:00

Patrick Swayze, Keanu Reeves, someone

29:02

else. We, I was

29:04

going to go with, who was Anthony Cox? No,

29:07

I wasn't Dr. Cox. Gary Busey? No,

29:10

no, no, not Gary Busey. Dr. Cox. John

29:12

Z. McGinley. John Z. McGinley, thank you. Now,

29:14

the reason this is a movie for me,

29:16

right? Is that, I don't know what exactly

29:18

was the charm for this film, but it

29:21

is charming. And I was the first time

29:23

that I recognized what white women like, right?

29:26

They loved Keanu Reeves. I love Keanu

29:28

Reeves. They love Keanu. They still

29:30

do. They still love Keanu. They're of the right

29:32

age. Yes, but at the time, as a sort

29:34

of half Asian boy, like with only white women

29:36

around me, basically in school, I'm like, what do

29:38

you consider attractive? And I remember your ex-girlfriend, Georgia,

29:41

used to say to me that she liked Keanu

29:43

Reeves so much that he was in a Paula

29:45

Abdul music video of a song called Rush Rush.

29:47

Okay, take your words. Yeah, she used to turn

29:49

the sound down and just watch the music video

29:51

because he was in it. God

29:53

damn. And I remember at

29:56

the time, the whole 90s thing

29:58

of, I want them out of my head, Ralphie.

30:00

That whole Keanu Reeves thing, he was a buff

30:02

kind of T-shirt wearing shooting targets in the rain

30:04

kind of like those whole scene. Do you remember

30:06

that at the beginning? Do you remember that? Yeah.

30:08

I'm like, why is it raining? Who cares? It

30:10

looks cool. Catherine Bigelow directed it. Catherine Bigelow, right?

30:12

Okay. And then, even though I'm

30:14

Asian, so I don't, my people don't really

30:17

go in the water. We'll live near the

30:19

beach and that's as far as it goes,

30:21

right? But even the surfing culture of all

30:23

this stuff, right, is that we have like

30:25

a, that was like the mood of the

30:27

90s. And as a result, it's

30:29

imprinted in me. We live in WA, it's very sunny

30:32

here. It's not quite the same thing, but it's pretty hot

30:34

also. But, and it's a very big beach culture here because

30:36

I think we got the best beaches in the world. I've

30:38

been to LA, they're better here. Yeah, we've got some great

30:40

beaches, no doubt. Yeah. So, so yeah, Point Break was

30:42

just how that entire period felt for me. And it's how

30:45

I remember the 90s, early 90s. Fair

30:48

enough, can't tell. That's few. That's where it

30:50

falls. There you go. Didn't take the

30:53

Lori Petty, though. Had

30:55

to add that last bit, either. Just saying. My

30:58

number seven then is a

31:00

film which I was a captive audience

31:02

to in that in year eight. I

31:04

think I was still 12, maybe turning 13. 1988, go on. My

31:08

mother took advantage of my

31:10

chicken pox riddle status to

31:13

make me watch a couple of films. Ah, yes. And I

31:15

wanted to say none of them, one of which was Dirty

31:17

Fucking Dancing. This is a massive piece of shit. I hate

31:19

that movie. It's a fine film. The other one is a

31:22

film which I also looked upon despairingly

31:25

slash in a sense

31:27

of what the fuck, mom. Come on. Yeah. Okay.

31:30

I'm a boy. I don't want to watch this girls film,

31:32

which is what I would have labeled it with a princess

31:34

in the title. Like what the fuck? I

31:36

already know exactly what you're talking about. Princess

31:38

bride. Of course. And to

31:40

watch this film, which is put on, as I said,

31:42

you're gonna watch this movie because it's gonna be good.

31:44

I'm like, dirty fucking. Anyway, Dirty

31:47

Fucking Dancing. It turns out it starts off

31:49

with a sick, slightly young savage and

31:51

Colombo playing hardball in bed, which again, which I

31:53

played. Wait, I'm like, what the fuck is this?

31:56

And then Peter Ford Colombo comes in and starts talking to him and

31:58

I'm gonna read this book to you. and he's expressing

32:00

all the things I'm expressing. Is this a

32:03

kissing book? Like this shit. I remember this.

32:06

And somehow this film not only captured me,

32:08

it's become one of my favorite films of

32:10

all time on the basis of that. Everything

32:13

that follows after that, that by the

32:15

time we had the sword fight between Inigo and

32:17

the Man in Black, I was like, this film's

32:19

fucking awesome. And then the end of that film

32:22

blows me up. I just love the whole fucking

32:24

thing. The sword play,

32:26

that fight after he climbs the cliff,

32:28

right? That already, once you're

32:30

there, with the left-handed either, all that

32:32

sort of shit, right? That whole thing

32:34

became, and Inigo Montoya was your favorite

32:37

character, right? It wasn't Wesley. No. And

32:39

I can almost, at least the first 30 minutes

32:41

that maybe, I can quote it the Baitom. Absolutely.

32:43

I've watched it so many times. So where

32:46

this film shaped me was I had to,

32:48

and I learned at that point, you can't

32:50

judge a video cassette cover by- Don't

32:53

judge a movie by its video cassette cover. Exactly. Absolutely.

32:56

I was like, okay, clearly, girls films, some of them

32:58

are fucking good. I should just watch more shit. Of

33:00

course they could Paul. And not be limited depth. But

33:02

I mean, this is me 12th or 13th, not me

33:04

as fucking 49th. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. No, but

33:06

I get that. But you know what else? Like even in this

33:08

film here, I think this is one of the first times I'm

33:10

like, you know what? The Han

33:13

Solo of the movie, the Jason

33:15

of the G-Force, not

33:18

the lead character, but the guy right next to

33:20

him is often the cooler guy. Yeah. And

33:22

then that's like, you see that quite a bit. And

33:24

so I also thought, you know what? It's fine to

33:27

play Tambourine every now and then. You

33:29

ain't got to be the lead singer or lead guitarist. You can play Tambourine

33:31

and still be a cool motherfucker. Yes. No,

33:34

drums. I wouldn't pay the Tambourine.

33:36

You'd be like the drums. You're right. Okay.

33:40

You're right. It's lead guitar, lead guitar, All

33:42

right. So that's why I'm a seven, the princess bride. Very

33:46

nice. My number seven is movie that the reason it

33:48

shaped me is because that I understood then how a

33:50

drama could be actually a good film because you and

33:53

I once said that was the best movie of the

33:55

year. It was disclosure.

33:58

Do you remember the disclosure? Yeah, of course

34:00

it is. Michael Douglas, Demi Moore, Donald Suddlin,

34:02

all these other folks, right? A film written

34:04

by Michael Crichton. From a Michael Crichton novel,

34:06

yes, absolutely. And so it

34:09

is basically a film that was apt at the

34:11

time about sexual harassment and basically the twist was

34:13

that Demi Moore was the one sexually harassing Michael

34:15

Douglas, but she blamed him because she's out there.

34:17

That's hard for Michael Douglas back in that era.

34:19

He's got Sharon Stone chasing, well, actually he's chasing

34:21

Sharon Stone and he's got Demi Moore throwing himself

34:24

at him. How did he cope?

34:26

Remember, Michael Douglas is Michael Douglas. You

34:28

don't get it now if you look at Michael Douglas.

34:30

I'm always 900 years old. Yeah, but back in the

34:32

day- He still got Catherine Zeta-Jones when she was at

34:34

her absolute finest. I don't know, Michael Douglas is Michael

34:36

Douglas. He's throwing dick like a motherfucker, all right? And

34:39

then, I remember you used to jokingly call me Michael Douglas

34:41

every now and then. I'm so

34:43

not Michael Douglas, everyone, all right? But like- But

34:47

you know, he would throw his dick around. Well,

34:49

you might argue- Back in the day. Yeah, back in

34:52

the day, two years ago.

34:54

So it was also the

34:56

work culture of being, Michael

34:58

Douglas is in this tech company and that movie

35:00

is all about mobile phones. And it was way

35:02

back in the 90s mobile phones, man. Smaller, faster.

35:04

Yeah, with the fucking, his particular mobile

35:06

phone was really cool because it was a slide out

35:09

and the buttons were a little semi-circle, very cool. But

35:11

also, if you watch this movie

35:13

now, over the oldie AR fucking VR headset thing, which

35:15

is so goofy, you laugh your ass off. But you

35:17

know what? Everything they said would come true came true.

35:19

There you go. You can now do all that shit.

35:21

So I love the, and it actually taught me about,

35:24

I think it's why I like working in an office.

35:26

Yeah, one of those weird guys who actually likes working

35:28

in an office. So there you

35:30

go, people, disclosure. All right, my number

35:32

six is pretty simple. As

35:35

you're well aware, I love horror films for two formative experiences.

35:37

One of which is a rebellious one. And this is my

35:39

number six. It's a nightmare in Elm Street. Oh shit. This

35:41

is the film which my mum drew a line in the

35:43

sand at and just said, no, you are not watching this

35:45

movie. It will scare the fuck out of you. You're only

35:47

10 years old. You're only 11 years old. You are not

35:49

watching this. She didn't say fuck. At that

35:51

time. At

35:54

that time, exactly. So we get

35:56

to whatever, I think I was 12. So it

35:58

was a couple of years later. My mum has won

36:00

that argument. And every time we have videos to it,

36:02

can I get this video? No, I've told you my

36:04

home. No, no. Once again, videos to a left. And

36:06

one day my dad clearly in a weak moment, or

36:08

he just forgotten. He just forgotten about the conversation with

36:10

my mum or having weaknesses between my mum

36:12

and I several times. And I went, dad, how about this one?

36:15

Nightmare on Elm Street. He's like, yeah, okay, sure. You snuck

36:17

it in. So we get out of Elm Street, we get

36:19

home and I know what's coming. I know there's gonna be

36:21

hell on it. Is your mum home? And

36:23

she's like, why the hell are you letting him watch

36:26

this? I've told him no a thousand times. And my dad was

36:28

like, obviously he realized, fuck this, I need to back myself in.

36:30

He's like, he's old enough now. He's watching

36:33

some crazy shit. If

36:35

he's gonna fall to pieces over watching this movie,

36:37

which is scary, whatever, then he'll teach him a

36:39

lesson. You know, that old, yeah, he

36:41

has 15 cigarettes, smoke them all and then tell me

36:43

it's still gonna be. Yeah, exactly. Type thing. And

36:46

so I got in trouble. My dad got

36:48

in trouble. I got to watch the movie. And because- Did you

36:50

watch it with him? I don't remember watching with him

36:52

if I'm honest. So I can't remember if I did or watched

36:54

it by myself, but I remember whatever happened, I

36:56

was gonna like this movie. Because

36:58

you had to, politically you had to. Way in hell I

37:00

was gonna admit to my mom, it either scared me or

37:03

freaked me out or whatever. And I actually did really love

37:05

that movie and really enjoyed it. And it did shape my

37:07

love of horror films. And it was this rebellious sense of,

37:09

well, I can't do something. I've done it. And it was

37:11

fine. Another layer of the

37:14

onion, ladies and gentlemen. The very reason

37:16

I've had to suffer through some fucking horror films,

37:18

it's because of that movie. Now I know. One

37:20

of the reasons you'll hear about the other one coming up. Okay,

37:23

okay, good. My number six, you may not

37:25

see this coming, ladies and gentlemen, but it is in

37:27

fact, Get Shorty. So Get

37:29

Shorty. I'm gonna go to the hospital

37:31

music to go out on. Oh yeah. Ding, ding,

37:34

ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, green

37:36

onion, baby. So John Travolta was

37:38

once a powerhouse. Okay, and

37:40

I'm not talking about staying alive, kind of a

37:42

grease era, okay? He had his turn and then

37:44

he went away. And then Quentin Tarantino cost him

37:47

in Pulp Fiction. And all of a sudden he

37:49

was the guy. He was in Swordfish. He was

37:51

in fucking movies where he was the lead all

37:53

the time, right? Look who's talking. Look who's talking

37:55

too. You was doing that before fucking like Pulp

37:57

Fiction. I see that was before Pulp Fiction. Yeah, but Pulp Fiction put- him

38:00

on the map and now he's doing

38:02

fucking leads, right? And get shorty was

38:04

a Barry Sonnenfeld film, which I adored

38:06

and watched on laser disc. And

38:09

for a long time, I didn't realize

38:12

this, but if you go look at it now,

38:14

him and I dressed, well, I dressed exactly like

38:16

John Travolta. Yeah. So he shaped your sense of

38:18

style. Absolutely. Like I used to

38:20

wear suits with a fucking polo because he did

38:23

it. I'm pretty sure. Sports jackets

38:25

with a polo. In the first film we made.

38:27

If I had hair, I would have slicked it

38:29

back. All kinds of shit like that. So, and

38:31

that was just one of the things, but also

38:33

there was nothing cooler than John Travolta at the

38:35

time. I remember even in the DVD extras with

38:37

their directors commentary, Barry Sonnenfeld said, if you have

38:40

John Travolta in your film, you want him walking

38:42

as much as you can. Cause he had this

38:44

sort of swagger when he walked, right? Cause he's

38:46

a dancer. And I was like, I never got

38:48

to, to actually emulate that swagger, but I

38:50

understood the idea of it and he was just

38:53

cool as shit cause he didn't say much. Whereas

38:55

I say everything. So I was never actually I

38:58

never made it to be John Travolta back then, but

39:01

I definitely dressed a bit like him. So there you go. What's his

39:03

name? What's his name? His name is a

39:05

chili pama. Exactly. On the inside. Great

39:11

film, by the way, the, the sequel sucked hairy

39:13

balls. Don't watch that. But the first one great.

39:15

Yeah. The second one is so tryhard.

39:18

It's even called be cool. Which

39:20

I, which would have been fine if the execution came

39:22

off. And also it will

39:25

shock no one to realize that the rock was in that

39:27

movie. But the rock was cool. He was

39:29

playing a gay guy. It was great. It was the best acting he's ever

39:31

done. I don't know what he's doing now. He's

39:34

taking films left, right and center. Yeah.

39:36

My number five then Wayne top half

39:38

list is the other film which contributed

39:40

to my creative development. If you will

39:43

also from 1992, it was

39:45

a film made by a guy who worked in a video

39:47

store and he got a

39:49

budget together, not a big budget. And he

39:51

somehow got some name actors, including Harvey Kitell

39:54

to be in this movie. And he made

39:56

this fucking unbelievable film, which didn't show things

39:58

in chronological order. And

40:00

it's basically a heist film that didn't show

40:02

you the heist. And okay, I now understand

40:04

years later that it was based off an

40:07

Asian film. No, I didn't

40:09

know that. Yeah, called City of Fire or

40:11

Ring of Fire, something like that. True. But

40:14

it's Reservoir Dogs. Yeah. If a guy who

40:16

works in a video store can make this

40:18

film, which remains one of my favorite films

40:20

of all time, maybe, maybe

40:23

just maybe I can one day get either

40:25

a film made or write something

40:27

and have it published. That was the

40:29

shaping moment. Absolutely. I was waiting in the

40:31

video store the day this film was due

40:33

to be released on video. Because as you

40:36

might imagine, as a film fan, having already

40:38

been established through this particular list, I

40:40

was pretty friendly with some of the local video stores and the

40:42

staff that worked there. And I was literally hanging out and she's

40:44

like, well, can you still be delivered at three o'clock on this

40:47

day? Oh my God. Come in, come in

40:49

and I'll give you the first copy. I'll give you,

40:51

I'll rent out the first copy and go home and

40:53

watch it again. So I was there front and center.

40:55

That was so important to us. And

40:58

got it. It literally came

41:00

maybe half an hour late. We'll just shoot the shit,

41:02

talk about how good this movie was and she'd seen

41:04

it too. Remember seeing the first time you see the

41:06

video cover of the movie you liked and you're like,

41:08

oh my God, this is it. It's just like the

41:10

poster. I holding it in my hands. It was such

41:12

an exciting thing back then. And that

41:14

was, you know what? I'll tell you what better. I

41:16

remember you and the other guys bringing me along to

41:18

this film. We were sort of the Lumiere. All right.

41:20

And you said twice the cinema. That's right. I

41:23

remember Brett saying to me, like, I said, is there who's in this?

41:25

And you said no one particularly famous. But

41:27

we didn't know who the fuck he was. It wasn't big

41:29

for our. We didn't know who fucking Steve Buscemi was. You

41:31

know, Michael Madsen, any of those folks. None of those guys,

41:33

this film made those guys. Exactly. They made those guys. Even

41:35

Tim Roth, who had had some career. I don't know. I

41:37

don't think so. I don't think he'd been in anything. No.

41:40

And he even, and you said, Lawrence Terny, but that he

41:42

was an actor from a different generation. We didn't hear him.

41:45

I don't know who he was, right? So we were

41:47

walking there and I'm walking along the entertainment center steps and

41:49

say, who's in this? I don't know. And

41:51

particularly things. All right. What's it about?

41:53

It's about the 70s music and it turns

41:55

out I do, but I didn't know it at the time. All right. So

41:58

I was like, I don't know, man. Anyway, we walk

42:00

in. there. And then it's me. I think you always

42:02

still like this, like the scene where Michael Madsen with

42:04

the ear with the razor blade, right? And

42:06

it just, the camera sweeps away and

42:09

I'm shitting my pants. And I remember seeing

42:11

in the newspaper ad for the thing, it

42:14

said, we're going to sell you a seat, but you're only going to use

42:16

the edge of it. That's good stuff.

42:18

And yeah, it was an amazing film. I can

42:21

see why it was. And you know what? Yeah.

42:23

That's definitely why you directed the couple of short

42:25

films we made, Paul. One feature length film, but

42:27

yes, sorry. Yes. One short film, one feature length.

42:30

Good God. I still got a lady friend

42:32

who was like, I got to see that. I'm like,

42:34

you'll never see it. Maybe the kids will say, Oh

42:36

no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You're not there.

42:40

You're not there. That's all

42:42

I'm saying. What do

42:45

you offer number five? My

42:48

number five is blood sport. Ooh.

42:50

Okay. Martial arts. Yes. Now everyone, when back

42:52

in the day, I was one of those

42:54

people, one of those kids, right? One of

42:56

those guys who did martial arts and, and,

42:58

and read martial arts magazines. Yeah. We had

43:00

those. And then I remember the story of

43:02

blood sport was that John Claude Van Dam

43:05

was in fact, you know, he came to

43:07

America and he was like trying to

43:09

get into movies. One time he

43:11

finally saw a directory said, give me blood sport.

43:13

Let's see if the guy can do this. Then

43:15

he comes on now blood sport itself. He's like

43:17

a crazy, it's got heaps and heaps of martial

43:19

arts in it. And not just martial arts, every

43:21

different style you can think of. Drunken monkey, Kung

43:23

Fu, this, that fucking see that. Well, all kinds

43:25

of shit's going on. It's a great, great film.

43:27

It is his first film. I suspect it is

43:30

his best film. Um, what else has he

43:32

done? That's good. Better than that. Oh, look,

43:34

you're getting into non martial arts and maybe

43:36

universal soldier was pretty good. Yeah. Universal soldier

43:38

was great, but like this is bad. Time

43:41

copy. Hard target. Not bad target.

43:44

Yeah. Cause yeah. Yeah.

43:47

That's the thing though. Like, so this, this became

43:49

like, see, it all turned

43:51

to shit after that fucking. Yeah. And so this

43:53

is almost like his jaws. If he was Steve

43:55

Spielberg, the first thing he did was the best

43:57

thing he did. That

44:02

is the first time in the known

44:04

universe someone has described

44:06

Sean Claude Van Dam's Jaws as being bloodsport. There

44:08

you go, see? I'm filming you every day, but

44:10

yes, the fact that this movie, I think it's

44:13

just because I was so into it at the

44:15

time. I know we got a few people out

44:17

here listening who like this film, so I'm hoping

44:19

to hear from you, but... Shout out

44:21

to Troy Spinner. Troy Spinner, my man. So like, it's just,

44:23

we have, I don't know, it was just so cool. And

44:26

also it was a little bit underground, this film, because it

44:28

was such an indie. So knowing it

44:30

and having seen it and anyone else who had

44:32

seen this movie at the time was like me.

44:35

One of those guys who did martial arts

44:37

like for a whole big chunk of childhood.

44:39

So that's what I love Jaws Bloodsport about.

44:41

Okay, fair enough. My number four Wayne, is

44:44

the sports film which shaped,

44:48

helped shape, I should say, my sense

44:50

of you never give up. You

44:53

always keep going. It's

44:55

never too late and look, you maybe

44:57

need to accept defeat, but you keep

44:59

fighting nonetheless. Lose the battle with war.

45:02

And it also, I mean, that stuck with me

45:04

through my playing days of sport. Now as a

45:06

coach, it most definitely does. Like how do I

45:09

inspire slash promote development

45:12

in the individual players, but also make them work

45:14

within a team. Paul was a basketballer back in

45:16

the day. He is now a coach of a

45:18

ball game. That is also true. So this is

45:20

Major League. Oh, Major League bro.

45:23

To my mind, still one of the funniest films ever,

45:25

ever made. Are you kidding me? And

45:27

this turnaround from, you know, here's a shit

45:29

team. I turned him into a potential championship

45:31

winning team and how the coach,

45:33

that's who I'm really focusing on here. The

45:35

coach does that, but also how the players

45:38

find their role in the team and

45:40

do what they're good at and do that really,

45:42

really well to benefit the team rather than our

45:44

own individual selves. That's what really

45:46

resonated for me because that basketball, as you

45:48

just mentioned, I wasn't a huge scorer. My

45:51

job was to fucking rebound. Paul, like now

45:53

played the D certainly

45:56

did. So I was about to get the ball back and

45:58

give it to the people who can score. Like, you know,

46:01

that's not my job as school, my school is to give

46:03

it back to them so that they can. Dennis Robin was

46:05

my favorite basketball player before he turned Judas and went to

46:07

Chicago. And then, you know, exactly. My game was modeled off

46:09

that and kind of shaped by this. Okay. I'm not the

46:12

world's greatest basketball. Never Shelby, but I have a role to

46:14

play and I can do that really, really well. You can

46:16

still be John Stockton. You can give people

46:18

the assist, baby. That's how we do. Yeah, but still, I've

46:20

got the hands of John Stockton. Let's be clear. That's

46:23

true. John Stockton was fucking amazing. You

46:25

know, people call me the John Stockton of love. I'll

46:29

help you get some ass. Give me the assist. Or

46:31

is that because you had a little balls? I

46:34

only handle my own, but a lot of times. A

46:36

lot of times. Yeah. Imagine like that's why it's my

46:38

number four. Nice. Let me ask you Paul. Have you

46:41

ever taken a player's contract thrown out on the floor

46:43

and pissed on it? No. Okay. So you've got something

46:45

to look forward to. If I was coaching maybe older

46:47

people and not children. Yeah.

46:50

Probably a little leech kind of like coach, but still. I

46:53

look forward to that day. Please videotape it.

46:55

All right. Okay.

46:59

Sure. What do you got for your fall? We'll zip

47:01

through this one. My number four is Jeremy. Guire Paul. Okay.

47:04

So what year is it? What year? Yeah.

47:06

I don't know. Fuck my dick. Hang

47:08

on. It's like you haven't

47:10

done it before. I just wrote this

47:12

lot down. Jamie. Is

47:18

1996. All right. So it was

47:21

the same year as mission impossible. Oh, well, there you are.

47:23

Paul. Damn it. I just

47:25

lost my notes. Hold

47:28

up. Holy

47:32

shit. What happened? God

47:34

damn iPad. Of the highest quality. Why are

47:36

you reinstalling Google cheats? Your piece of shit.

47:39

You could possibly. Son of a, look at

47:41

it. It's actually in three song. I didn't.

47:45

You know what? I can talk without the note because I

47:47

didn't make any. I'm going to tell you about handle the

47:50

truth. Jeremy

47:52

Guire. All right. I've grown past it

47:54

now. That's why it's not my number one. Okay. Long

47:56

time. Every time I change jobs, which was often.

48:00

watch this film. And I do think it is

48:02

kind of the, the, the modern man's tribute to

48:04

the dickhead who wears a suit and tie every

48:06

day and wonders what it all means. Okay. Um,

48:09

because that's who I kind of am was for a

48:11

long time. Right. I now know what it means. It's

48:13

just the thing you do to let

48:16

you live. It's not in fact who you are.

48:18

Right. So I, so I just don't

48:21

let you down the dark path of being

48:23

looking at the wrong way. Absolutely. It actually

48:25

made me kind of go understand and sort

48:27

of like draw a parallel between the job

48:29

you have and who you are. I now

48:32

know it is. You cannot afford to attach

48:34

yourself of sense, worth of self worth or

48:36

confidence to your career. That is simply what

48:38

you do. It is not who you are.

48:41

And it took me a long time to figure

48:43

that out. Uh, but Jeremy McGuire, I like,

48:45

I like that you picked a film that sent me down the wrong

48:47

path, but I've since realized it's wrong and that's why it's not my

48:49

favorite film anymore, but it did make me who I was. Yeah.

48:52

So it's like, that's, and, and to be honest with

48:54

you here, like the other thing that it did teach

48:56

me is that it is important to

48:58

kind of on some level, if not enjoy, believe

49:00

in what you do as a career. Cause it

49:03

takes up most of your time. Yeah. Oh, I

49:05

think if you don't think you're

49:07

contributing or it has a purpose that you resonates

49:09

for you, then I'm a hundred percent. Yeah. Look

49:11

for another job, look for another career or have

49:13

a side hustle that fulfills you because, but

49:16

I still think your main gig should be at

49:18

least who you are. If not what you love.

49:21

So there you go. Jeremy Goyer, ladies and gentlemen, my

49:23

number four. Very nice. We can still have crossovers coming.

49:25

I guess they're going to come

49:27

pretty hard and fast. They will. My number four

49:29

Wayne is the last horror movie on my list.

49:32

It involved this particular experience. I don't know

49:34

if I've described this in detail on the podcast ever

49:36

before at 498 episodes. Here is

49:38

an insight into my life for you. When

49:40

I was eight years old, eight years old, the next door

49:43

neighbor who was also named Paul, but

49:45

he had two L's in his name because he was

49:47

different. What? Who the hell spelled Paul with two L?

49:49

What a dickhead. Anyway, so I got, I'm pretty sure

49:51

he didn't determine that. It was his parents. Okay. Paul

49:54

was babysitting myself and I shimmed my brother

49:56

if I was eight years old because he was around and

49:58

he had got out. as probably it was,

50:00

I would guess 15 years old. I think he was seven or eight

50:03

years older. And- Oh,

50:05

he's a kid. Yeah, he was a kid. Okay. to

50:08

watch at our place whilst babysitting. And one of those films

50:10

that he got out, he put on and I'm like, oh,

50:12

can I watch this with you as well? It looks really

50:14

cool. And he's like, oh yeah. And he was a bit

50:16

of a rebel. He's like, all right, you can watch this

50:19

with me until it gets to the point that basically you

50:21

shouldn't because I reckon that might happen in the movie. Okay,

50:23

so he lets me stay up and we watch this movie

50:25

and we get all the way to the point in this

50:27

Arctic outpost where a dog's head

50:29

bursts open and this tendrilish thing comes out

50:32

of it. Oh my God. And he goes,

50:34

stop, right? That's enough to bed with you.

50:36

That's where you saw the thing? The thing.

50:39

So I saw- Holy shit, is that how you saw it? I saw the

50:41

first act of the thing up right

50:43

until the creature first reveal with

50:45

my babysitter. That would have just made you more

50:47

salivating for it. But of course I didn't fight

50:49

too hard because how could I have beat the

50:51

shit out of me? Yeah. Puts me

50:54

to bed and I'm like, my mission now in life- Is

50:56

to see the rest of this movie. How cool,

50:58

how cool. For you to remember

51:01

that and that to be the thing. Cause it makes

51:03

it more valuable that you couldn't complete it. If you

51:05

had watched it all, you wouldn't have thought about it

51:07

as much. So I said before it was a nightmare

51:09

on Elm street, my rebellious attitude. This one strangely enough,

51:11

my parents were much more okay with it. My

51:14

memory is I got to see it a lot earlier

51:16

than a nightmare on Elm street. Okay, you can watch

51:19

this movie about some alien crashing into whatever else. Do

51:21

you know what it was? Like for my parents as

51:23

well. Violence, no problem. Drug use, not

51:25

so much. Sex, forget about it. Was it sex

51:27

in Elm Street? It certainly wasn't in the thing.

51:29

No, but like to them it was all like

51:32

horror as opposed. Like they didn't want to basically

51:34

have you running through the room. So basically your

51:36

parents were the American public view

51:38

of the whole world. Absolutely. Yeah, so it

51:40

has been blown off whatever. Yes, but two

51:42

people naturally bumping under the lease. Exactly, if

51:44

I see an apple, no way. Oh my

51:46

God, that is beyond, think of the children.

51:48

Yeah, absolutely, totally. So I was consumed with

51:51

this and eventually, and I don't think it

51:53

was that long afterwards from memory, I was

51:55

allowed to watch this movie and it is,

51:57

it remains to this day, my favorite horror

51:59

film. That and the Nightmare on Elm Street

52:01

are directly responsible for horror being my favorite

52:03

genre of film. For me, writing and being

52:05

interested in all that kind of stuff, for

52:07

wanting, if someone would say, here, Paul, stop,

52:09

stop what you're doing right now. We love

52:12

the potential that you showed on this podcast.

52:14

Let's just run with this fantasy. Let's

52:16

go, let's go, let's go. Here is money

52:19

that you're making now in your

52:21

profession to write and direct horror films the rest

52:23

of your life. I would take it in a

52:25

heartbeat. Bro, bro, I want that

52:27

for you is what I want. All

52:31

the little ideas you have circling, make it happen. Make it

52:33

happen. We believe in you. Here's your

52:36

wage. They have software now just

52:38

for this. Like if you just put all your ideas

52:40

in the software, you can fucking get it. Well, they

52:42

do. AI, whatever else. Well, not so much AI scribed

52:44

and stuff allows you to form it. You should check

52:46

it out. I've got we've got scribe at work. I've

52:49

used it before. You like it? Yeah. OK, that's so

52:51

cool. Did you did you notice that or did you

52:53

place the thing as a horror film at the time?

52:55

Or did you just look at the gore and go

52:57

that's gore? I don't know if you know as an

52:59

eight year old or nine year old. What genre is.

53:02

It would surprise me. But you know what? How this

53:04

is just me thinking this now. How

53:06

innocent that your goal in life at eight

53:08

is to complete watching a film that's available

53:10

to you. Now kids are like their goal

53:13

is like I don't know what an influencer.

53:15

Exactly. I'm going to rule the world. I

53:18

don't know. But I like that about us. That's it. My

53:20

number three. The thing. Very nice. We're going to go out

53:22

and fast here because my number three is basic instinct. Yeah,

53:24

that's very nice. My number two is Empire Strikes Back. Oh,

53:26

my number. My number two is Swingers. All

53:29

right. So we're down to our number ones.

53:31

Yeah. So to run you back through my

53:33

list recap there. My number 10 was Swingers.

53:35

Nine. Mission colon impossible. Eight. Basic instinct. Seven.

53:38

The princess bride. Six. A nightmare

53:40

on Elm Street. Five. Reservoir. Dogs.

53:42

Four. Major League. Three.

53:45

The thing. My number two. Empire

53:47

Strikes Back for all the reasons we talked about. And

53:49

my number one. Go on. Was the film

53:52

which arguably blew my mind more than any

53:54

other film had before. And it didn't set

53:56

me on a path. But

53:58

it solidified. my perspective

54:00

on what my job

54:02

was. And

54:05

to a large degree still is my career path.

54:07

It's the matrix. Do

54:09

go on. The oldest film, sorry, the newest film on this from

54:11

1999. Yes,

54:14

it blew my mind. Yes, I had just what is

54:16

the matrix? I was totally sucked in. Yes, I went

54:18

with it was the first film I saw with a

54:20

girl. I just started dating who would go on to

54:22

be together for six years. So all

54:24

those things are important. But what it did do

54:26

beyond all of that, it

54:29

helped me settle on my therapeutic

54:31

style as a psychologist, as

54:33

a therapist. How? Because

54:35

this film was all about perception

54:37

not being reality. Living in

54:39

the matrix. Sure. Yeah, you're plugged

54:41

into and you're being fed things into your, directly into

54:43

your brain. So it makes it seem like this is

54:45

the world, but the real world was completely different to

54:47

that, which is precisely the

54:49

way that I operate in terms of helping people

54:52

re-shift their focus and their

54:55

outlook on the world. Also understanding why they

54:57

have that particular focus, that perspective in the

54:59

first place. Interesting. But I'm like, oh, I

55:01

don't remember making that, seeing the

55:03

cinema at the last second of that going, oh, my life

55:05

is now set on my footpath set. It's never like that.

55:07

But it resonated through afterwards and I would find myself referring

55:10

back to this film time and again. I often do this

55:12

when I'm working with people like, there's this movie and this

55:14

thing happens and da da da da da. Pause the shrink

55:16

by the way. I want you to go away and watch

55:18

this movie. I

55:21

will set that sometimes as sort of homework for people.

55:23

Very interesting. I use film in

55:26

my professional life, not every person, not every

55:28

session, but it's a

55:30

theme for me. And this film is

55:32

the most predominant theme of them all.

55:34

The perception is not reality, your reality,

55:36

the reality will differ and we

55:38

can change your perception to be more helpful

55:42

and age you to be a better person slash less

55:44

shit feeling. Wow. That was

55:46

really well framed. I think that shit feeling

55:48

is exactly what everyone is after. And it's

55:50

only to be every now and then where

55:52

I look, it's so hard to appreciate that

55:54

the world you know is just your perspective.

55:57

People who would do stuff. perspective.

56:00

Exactly. They thought this. They must feel this about me.

56:02

Why? Because you had an experience like that and that's

56:04

how you'd react. So now it's the only way anyone

56:06

can react. It's just, yeah, that's totally

56:09

good. Therapy is important. Everyone get it. Well,

56:11

clearly I'm going to really get sponsored by better

56:13

help with something. Yeah. That was

56:16

my shit ass version. Not that that's the entire

56:18

and only way it worked, but it is a

56:20

through line on much of what I think it

56:23

is very poignant. Matrix. The Matrix 1999 is the

56:25

film that most shaped who I am. Nice one.

56:27

All right. So I'll just go through my 10

56:29

to one 10 Goonies, nine

56:31

empire strikes back eight point break

56:33

seven disclosure, six get shotty five

56:36

blood sport for Jeremy Gwar three basic instinct

56:39

two swingers. And of course my number one

56:41

is 1989's Batman. Yes. All right. It's almost

56:43

like I was prophetically correct at the start

56:45

of the episode with the music that I

56:48

chose. He didn't know, but let me tell

56:50

you a real quick about how this happened.

56:52

Yes. I'm a Batman fan. I'm wearing a

56:54

Batman t-shirt right now. All right. Perfect. Uh,

56:57

but it did a few things for me. One,

56:59

this is the most memorable cinema going experience of

57:01

my life because back in 1989, my dad had

57:04

some connects. He got the advanced screening

57:06

for this thing, which at the time

57:09

in Perth was crazy because I went

57:11

to this, the city's theater. I went

57:13

with my, with my sister. We went

57:15

there. He dropped us off. We see the

57:17

film. I'm already shooting my pants as a long time

57:19

Batman fan. Totally. When I was a kid, I had

57:21

all the figurines. I still got them. Yeah. So you

57:23

were a fan of Batman before you saw this way.

57:25

Imagine how amazing it would be

57:28

for your dad to be able to arrange that for

57:30

you. Totally. And he said, cause I thought they'd go

57:32

with him. He goes, now go with your sister. I'm

57:34

cool. I'm like, Jesus. All right. Fine. And then, um,

57:36

and because even the promos were a hero in black,

57:38

uh, cause Batman never wore black. It was always gray

57:40

and blue, but I was fine with it. Right.

57:43

Yeah. In fact, it's better. So, um, and

57:45

then we go see it and I'm sitting

57:47

next to Perth personalities, which is pseudo famous

57:49

people that live in Perth. And

57:51

I'm like, Oh my God. I remember I was 19 and

57:53

I'm fucking a kid. Right. So I'm like, Oh, I hope

57:56

you weren't. I wasn't. I was a kid and

57:58

didn't do any fucking. But

58:03

then after that whole happened, that was the first time I heard

58:05

people cheer after a thing. And it

58:07

was such a big deal. Then I come outside

58:09

and they'd shine the bat symbol on a nearby

58:12

skyscraper. And I'm like, Oh my fucking God. Right?

58:14

Huge. Next day I'm telling people about it.

58:16

It's cool. That whole thing. Apart from

58:19

that, just the idea that Anton first was like, it was the

58:21

set designer for bat Gotham city. And

58:23

it sort of inspired my love for built for

58:25

drawing buildings as well. And all this kind of

58:27

shit happened. But yeah, it became. It's still a

58:29

Batman in any, it's still my Batman or the

58:32

Batman. All the fair enough. Great. You

58:34

know, the old one, but some of them. Yeah. And,

58:37

uh, yeah, to this day, it's probably one of the reasons

58:39

I started this show with you. So

58:42

there you go. All right. There we

58:44

are. There's our list. Wayne.

58:47

And then apparently you've got quite a few run through the list, but we don't time to

58:49

go to all the stories. My number 11, if

58:52

you will, is the raid. Really? Yeah.

58:55

The raid is the newest one. It

58:57

was a film that I knew about foreign cinema. It's been

59:00

to the movies and I watched foreign films. This

59:03

is the film that went put me down the rabbit hole

59:05

of, okay, well, this Asian action was so good.

59:08

What about Asian action films? I haven't seen before, which

59:10

I went chasing. And then that led me through the

59:12

jump, the continental divide to Europe and non-English speaking other

59:14

films from those areas, which, okay, I need to watch

59:16

that movie. I want to watch that movie and watch

59:19

that movie and doing a deep dive into this kind

59:21

of stuff. Not saying that I've

59:23

seen everything, but I've certainly seen a lot of films. And

59:25

a lot of films in different countries that I might not

59:27

have because of the raid. And that's a twist on that

59:29

one because it's an Indonesian film, but it's, but it's directed

59:31

by a Dutch guy. A Welsh guy. Welsh

59:34

guy. A generic white man. Great. There

59:37

you go. So nice one. Okay. I'll

59:40

just list off my little lungs here.

59:42

Top Gun, Chasing Amy, Cruel Intentions, Coming

59:44

to America, Major League, Good Morning, Vietnam,

59:46

Beverly Hills Cop, Untouchables and Transformers the

59:48

Movie. Untouchables. Tell us about

59:50

that. Well, the thing about the Untouchables was I

59:52

didn't know that a cop drama could also have

59:54

gore, Paul. What do you do? That guy's

59:56

brains out on the stairway and then his brains on the

59:59

wall. I'm like, what? Wait,

1:00:01

this is what genres can

1:00:03

cross. And it

1:00:05

made it so much more impactful, apart from the

1:00:07

fact that that's Lomo's scene, was still the tits.

1:00:09

My jaw was gaped all the time, all the

1:00:12

time. Brian De Palma before he De Palma. Well,

1:00:14

another Brian De Palma film for sure. His other

1:00:16

big budget film up beyond the Mission Impossible. Yeah,

1:00:18

see, he was big. 10 years

1:00:20

apart. Yeah, he should have just stopped. He

1:00:22

should have just stopped. Yeah, all right, there

1:00:24

we are. That's our list about what made

1:00:26

us who we are. What about yours in

1:00:28

one of the most fascinating insights into our

1:00:30

community? You're going to get it on the other side

1:00:32

of this in the segment we call the Pop 10. Talk

1:00:36

about. Talk

1:00:39

about. Talk about

1:00:43

this week's Pop 10 with Tony Dobish. May

1:00:45

sound cliche, but I always cite pop fiction.

1:00:47

Yeah. I just saw it at the

1:00:50

right age. I was in high school and just started

1:00:52

working at Blockbuster. It made me realize the difference between

1:00:54

movies and film. Yeah. I like that. Joey

1:00:56

De Carlo. Now I did ask for one from everybody, but quite

1:00:58

a few people just gave us the traditional three. Keep

1:01:01

going. Joey said Mafia versus

1:01:03

Ninja, one of the worst, I can't. Best

1:01:05

Kung Fu movies ever made. My friends are obsessed

1:01:08

with it, renting it over and over, memorizing scenes

1:01:10

and acting them out in the hallway at school.

1:01:12

While girls didn't like us, I'll never know. Red

1:01:15

Dawn started my love of action movies as I

1:01:17

watched it endlessly on HBO as a kid, running

1:01:19

around the neighborhood with toy guns, screaming Wolverines and

1:01:21

because we live here. Nice. And

1:01:23

lastly, one we had on both Alice Way and the Empire

1:01:26

Strikes Back. I saw this in theaters when I

1:01:28

was four. My sister says I didn't blink for two hours. I

1:01:30

can't imagine what my life would be like if my parents didn't

1:01:32

take us to see this on a rainy day in 1980. I

1:01:35

love that we have film fans, real film fans

1:01:37

among the listeners. Francis Booker said, Coach

1:01:39

Carter, I watched this film at a time when I

1:01:42

really needed to get my shit together. And it did

1:01:44

really hit me. Nice. The message the film gives about

1:01:46

owning your own shit situation, trying to better yourself with

1:01:48

the hard work I think and support of mothers. Yeah.

1:01:50

It kind of gave me the kick up the ass

1:01:52

I needed. Properly helped me with embracing who

1:01:54

I was rather than blame where I came from. Nice.

1:01:56

That's amazing. Awesome. Thank you for sharing that with us,

1:01:58

Francis. Daily loads. I said, excuse,

1:02:00

excuse, sorry, the cringe and cliches, but here

1:02:02

we go. All these films I love for

1:02:04

the same reason. It's not about the destination.

1:02:07

It's about the journey. Go on. Number

1:02:09

three, hunt for the little people. Man, this is just funny.

1:02:11

Ricky Baker made me love poetry, believe it or not. Wow.

1:02:14

Okay, yeah. Two Soul. It can

1:02:16

be detrimental, put all your hopes and dreams into one thing,

1:02:18

that goal doesn't make you who you are. Two Soul. Soul.

1:02:21

Number two. Oh, Soul. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:02:24

the goal is making you who you are with regard to Jerry Maguire. Love that. And

1:02:27

lastly, good will hunting. I

1:02:29

have the painting, Robin Williams has his office that

1:02:32

Matt Damon shits on tattooed on my leg. Wow.

1:02:34

Oh. Expectations, especially that placed on

1:02:37

yourself by yourself aren't always helpful. Having friends

1:02:39

that are there for you, but also want

1:02:41

you to be better is all you need.

1:02:43

Boy, that's good. That's excellent. Phenomenal.

1:02:45

As is this, Michelle Connerbois said, Amadeus, I was a

1:02:47

bit of an outcast who could play piano. Not

1:02:50

much has changed. You

1:02:53

be you, I say. Exactly. Jason Barr said, thunderball. I

1:02:55

love James Bond films. And this was the first one

1:02:57

I ever watched when I was a kid. It kicked

1:02:59

off my love for franchise. Hot fuzz. Myself

1:03:02

and my wife to be absolutely loved this film and quite

1:03:04

pretty much every day. She's not much of a cinephile or

1:03:06

a film lover, but this feels like our film and

1:03:09

total recall from 1990. Let's be clear. I grew

1:03:11

up on Arnie films through my dad. And this

1:03:13

was his favorite one spoiler alert. It's

1:03:17

all a dream. You're

1:03:20

damn right it is son. I

1:03:22

disagree. Damn

1:03:25

it. But well done there, sir. Jamie

1:03:27

Davies said, D'Arco was a film

1:03:29

that probably launched my love of cinema. It came out

1:03:32

just the right time during my early teens and completely

1:03:34

changed my perception of what a film could be and

1:03:36

got me to broaden my horizons film. That is a

1:03:38

fucking unicorn that film for it to be the film

1:03:40

that it is and still be worth watching and still

1:03:42

so popular. I directed it again. Cause he never made

1:03:45

Richard Curtis. No, Richard Kelly. You

1:03:47

never made another good film. They're all fucking tripe. And

1:03:50

it was an assault. Sorry, David. He said it's all

1:03:52

mistakes that film, but like, there you go. Charles

1:03:55

Gretch said Rocky, the idea of going the

1:03:57

distance resonates deeply because it's not about winning or

1:03:59

losing. It's about. perseverance, grit and giving it

1:04:01

your all no matter the odds. That mindset

1:04:03

has applied to so many areas of license. I

1:04:05

lost my father as a young man and

1:04:07

things were tough. I

1:04:10

found myself challenging Rocky's determination into my own

1:04:12

journey, whether it was personal challenges, work or

1:04:15

sports. Thank you

1:04:17

for sharing that with us, Charles. Luke

1:04:19

James human. It's got to be a reservoir dog. Seeing it

1:04:21

at 16 totally redefined my idea

1:04:23

of what was cool and discovering it well

1:04:26

ahead of my peers gave me a confidence

1:04:28

that lasts till this day. Well, I may

1:04:30

still tip. I always follow the explicit motherfucker

1:04:33

with I'm trying to watch the lost

1:04:35

boys. I'm trying to watch the last

1:04:37

boys here. Love it. Erica San

1:04:39

Pedro said her three films were

1:04:41

studied in high school English. They started my love

1:04:43

for movie discussions with my friends after seeing a

1:04:46

film. These movies were rewatched regularly to the point

1:04:48

where my friends and I would endlessly quote them

1:04:50

back and forth to each other in high school,

1:04:52

just like Paul soundboard. I

1:04:54

feel like I'm taking crazy pills. Thanks.

1:04:57

Number three, Donnie Darko again, promoted a lot of discussion

1:04:59

with my friends at the time, trying to make sense

1:05:01

of the movie. Number two, Gattaca. This

1:05:04

might be where I began to like

1:05:06

films, like some sort of with some

1:05:08

sort of social commentary around it. Gattaca

1:05:10

showed that as society advances, humanity tends

1:05:12

to regress. Love that. Wow.

1:05:15

And I won't stand by me. It was the first

1:05:17

coming of age. We saw that showed how adults disappointed

1:05:19

children. Now the children try to process their hurt and

1:05:21

make sense of the parents. I'm still trying to make

1:05:23

sense of my Asian parents. Lol. Who

1:05:26

isn't Erica? Okay.

1:05:30

Last four, Matthew Wright. I recently watched a

1:05:33

movie called My Old Ass. It's

1:05:35

about an 18 year old meeting her 35 year old self.

1:05:37

I was thinking about watching that. Yeah. And the oldest self

1:05:39

telling her to take a minute to enjoy what she has

1:05:41

before it's gone. As a man who knows

1:05:43

he works far too much. It's been time with my family and loved

1:05:45

ones. I walked away from this one, hoping

1:05:47

it will shape who I want to be. Other

1:05:50

than that, the girl next door, that film made me realize

1:05:52

that anyone can shag a porn star. I try hard enough

1:05:54

to let the cosplay as well. It's not just anyone. Great

1:05:58

answer. Thank you for that. at. Laurie Miller

1:06:01

said, on the surface, this won't make much sense,

1:06:03

but cool hand Luke from 67 in which Paul

1:06:05

Newman plays a man convicted of a petty crime

1:06:07

who winds up on a chain gang had a

1:06:09

huge impact on my life. Like me, Luke is

1:06:11

a loner. I admired and

1:06:13

strive to live his rebelliousness, bravery,

1:06:15

uncompromising will and ability to

1:06:17

stir up those around him with a leadership

1:06:19

he did not seek. Prisoner number 37 is

1:06:21

still a driving force for me. How

1:06:24

many hard boiled eggs can you eat?

1:06:28

There's a challenge. Laurie, Jonathan

1:06:30

Lamb said, it's such a treat and honor to be able

1:06:32

to read the personal stories that others have shared in these

1:06:34

comments. And I 100% agree. I wish we had

1:06:36

more time to really go through them because there's been some

1:06:38

amazing ones we had. I had to leave out. Jonathan

1:06:41

said, I have to have a good thing. I had to do

1:06:43

a good thing and do some self reflection to find the moves

1:06:45

that might impact in my own life. And he came up with

1:06:47

number three, the mission by Johnny To. I grew

1:06:49

up watching lots of Hong Kong movies. So they collectively have played

1:06:51

a big part in shaping me in my formative years. This movie

1:06:54

is 100% a bros movie and having

1:06:56

a really close group of guy friends of my own.

1:06:58

I find the brothers for life aspect of the movie

1:07:00

particularly resonating. Number two, The Matrix. I

1:07:02

think this film was the first time I watched something together with

1:07:04

my parents and I had a totally different opinion than I did.

1:07:06

I thought it was awesome. They thought it was crap. First

1:07:09

time I realized I could and do have a different taste

1:07:11

in movies to my parents. And

1:07:13

lastly, Afterlife. This might have been the first

1:07:15

movie that made me realize movies are a

1:07:17

form of art and not just entertainment. That

1:07:19

movies can touch the deepest part of an

1:07:21

audience's heart and soul. Nice.

1:07:24

The final word is a long one and it goes

1:07:26

to Colonel Tobin McNeil's and it could have been at

1:07:28

the start of the episode as a part of the

1:07:30

recount. He said, what a topic guys. So many to

1:07:32

pick from for me. Movies are a massive part of

1:07:34

who I am. They're going to open up and share

1:07:36

one that really resonated with me. Swingers,

1:07:38

Sue's speech to Mikey. Yeah boy. I know exactly

1:07:40

what he's talking about. Keep going. I was born

1:07:43

in 94. So Swingers didn't get on my ride

1:07:45

until its second life on the stars and HVOs

1:07:47

of the world in the late 2000s. I

1:07:49

liked it right away. But as I got older, it turned

1:07:51

into a movie I cherish. Anyone who's dealt with heartbreak can

1:07:53

feel Mikey's pain in this movie. 100% in college. I

1:07:57

went through a really hard breakup. On top of that,

1:07:59

it turned into a. for me with my parents having

1:08:01

issues and me grasping with the idea of no longer

1:08:03

being a hockey player after I graduate. One

1:08:05

night my buddies suggested we watch Swingers to cheer me up. The

1:08:08

sous speech to Mikey when he's heartbroken on his apartment floor hit

1:08:10

like a ton of bricks. It helped me

1:08:12

put things in perspective. People move on, but tomorrow's a

1:08:14

new day. Look at all the great things they had

1:08:16

going for me. As someone who has now

1:08:18

battled depression most without life, it's a scene I returned to

1:08:20

on YouTube and I need a little pick

1:08:22

me up. Even when it feels like it just

1:08:24

isn't going your way. Off

1:08:26

the grid I know, but one that means so much to me. I

1:08:29

love you guys. Feels like my childhood best friend is

1:08:31

moving with you guys not being around as much. Beers

1:08:33

are always on me if our paths ever cross in

1:08:35

person. Cheers boys. Yeah, how nice.

1:08:37

That's pretty awesome. And

1:08:39

that like, first of all, that Ronald Livingston scene

1:08:41

that we were just telling you that that is,

1:08:43

I remember at the time going, yeah,

1:08:46

for your first bit of writing, that's pretty great to

1:08:48

see you on the screen. And secondly,

1:08:50

absolutely we'll drink with you. Absolutely, hell

1:08:52

of a story to share with us, Connell. Thank you

1:08:54

so much. Thank you to everyone. And I really, you know,

1:08:56

more than ever, I appreciate everyone who did contribute this

1:08:58

week. I didn't get a chance to read them all. As

1:09:00

you can tell, we're running a little long. And anyone

1:09:02

who listens. But yeah, and anyone who didn't contribute but listens

1:09:05

to these things and would have if they could have or

1:09:07

thinks, oh, I could have talked about this film. Like every

1:09:10

one of you is what makes this community so special and

1:09:12

something that makes this podcast, I think, for both of us

1:09:15

go beyond just time spinning with. It's why these nine,

1:09:17

10 years happened. Yeah, for sure. All right, well, we

1:09:19

won't get too emotional now. We'll save that for a

1:09:21

couple of weeks away. But Wayne, that is it

1:09:23

for today's episode. How you can get in touch

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with us. It's late the piece, but if they

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want to. Yeah, Google the Countdown podcast, find our

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socials, join up. They'll last longer than the weekly

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to delete everything. Absolutely not. And send us an

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follow us there. Maybe that will last a little

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bit longer. Blue Sky, Blue Sky, we're going to

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do that. I have not moved over to Blue

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Sky. No, no, that's not. I'm making gags. Is

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that the Trump one? No, no, fuck

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no. That's the, that's like

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where celebs seem to be going after the

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X, like they just move over. So,

1:09:58

all right, it could, I'm not up. and

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no fay with all the new

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social media, whiz bang things. But

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other than that, there follow us on pub beam where we host

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episodes to go in the

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weekly podcast. Do we tell people what they are now?

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We might as well. All right. Well, we'll

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tell the next one is the, when was

1:10:22

the coldest card, closest to keep

1:10:24

my water right. Best and worst of

1:10:26

2024 TV is our next episode. It's

1:10:29

a little bit earlier than we would normally do these things,

1:10:31

but we figure that no new TV show is coming out

1:10:33

in the last month of December. So it's probably got a

1:10:35

pretty good purvey of it all. So the best and worst

1:10:37

of TV, a wrap-up episode 2024. If

1:10:40

you've done the math, you'll realize we don't have enough time left

1:10:42

to do the best. Sorry, the worst films of the year and

1:10:44

the best films of the year, but you can look forward to

1:10:46

those once the weekly podcast ends. We'll come

1:10:49

back. Somewhere in 2025. Nice

1:10:51

and nice. All right. That's

1:10:53

it. That is it. Thank you so much for joining us today for

1:10:55

this very special episode of the countdown, the 498th one that we have

1:10:57

done. My

1:10:59

name is Paul. My name is Wayne. And this

1:11:01

has been the soundboard. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,

1:11:03

whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on. My reaction to

1:11:05

so many choices there is like, damn, I wish

1:11:07

I'd thought of that. We'll catch you next time.

1:11:10

See ya. Cheers. Oh,

1:11:39

well, look where the voice trying to understand it. Okay.

1:11:43

We'll stop. Here we go.

1:11:45

The top 10 films that

1:11:47

made us who we are. This

1:11:49

no effect, but just so I

1:11:52

can't hear that. Why

1:11:55

is that?