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They said the counting pines
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didn't exist, but everything
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has a price, even discovery.
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Welcome to the
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Cryptomismist! Hello
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and welcome. Today I, Richard Evans,
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take you on a journey through
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the wonderful world of currency and
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hidden treasure. This shows the last in
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my 11-part series on the Counting Pines.
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If you're tuning in for the first
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time, I'd invite you to check out
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the previous episodes. But if, like me,
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you're the kind of person who likes
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to skip to the end of a
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book, then keep listening. I know I
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will. So here I am on Jire
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Rock, a small island off the coast
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of... Well, I'd prefer not to say.
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The local government has made it
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very clear they don't want people poking
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around. I couldn't find any reason why,
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no debts, no accidents, at least none
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reported, and it's not a park or
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preserve. We've talked about possible
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origins of the counting pines in
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previous episodes. Were they carved by
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indigenous tribes or some lost Viking
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expedition? Perhaps they mark the location
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of stolen Hudson Bay Company bullion,
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or maybe they're the remnants of
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Alvareta Lark's doomed attempt to found
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a 14th colony. Even those who
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acknowledge their existence believe the pines
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are a part of a bigger
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mystery, something to be explored and
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unraveled. I think they're wrong. The
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counting pines don't lead to a treasure.
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They are the treasure, which brings me
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to Jaya Rock. The island was near
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impossible to find, not being on any
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maps. Even satellite photos were useless. This
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whole stretch of sea is little more
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than miles of slate gray water. If
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I hadn't come across those and not...
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post on the crypto forums, I don't
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think I would have known where to
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search. Even then, it took a lot
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of digging. People had Jire Island all
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over the place, from the Florida Keys,
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all the way up to Labrador, and
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that's just the Atlantic sightings. I found
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logs back to the 1700s detailing islands
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very similar to Jire in places as
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varied as the Orkney Isles, Hokkaido, and
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upstate Washington. I must have spent weeks
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combing the internet. It got to the
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point I was even dreaming dreaming dreaming
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dreaming dreaminging of trees. You know that.
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You've been with me all the way.
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For those of you who haven't, check
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out the previous two episodes where I
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detail my journey to Jire, from washed
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out roads, to frozen bridges, to boat
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engine repairs in the middle of a
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winter storm. Fortunately, I came well equipped,
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thanks to our sponsor, my coin. My
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coin, a practical, portable, oh so personal
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currency for the digital age. With no
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cumbersome blockchain to manage, no tracking or
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transaction fees, and never any third-party commissions,
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my coin is at your fingertips, literally.
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Jire Island isn't much to look at,
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maybe a square mile of rocks and
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scrub fronted by scarred cliffs, and breakers
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cold enough to snatch the breath from
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my lungs. I plan to make camp
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on the shore, but the ground isn't
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flat enough to pitch a tent, and
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the wind makes it impossible to talk.
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The only place quiet enough to record
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was down in the pines, which suits
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me just fine. The island forms a
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sort of bowl, high winds screaming around
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the outside, waves swirling in the strange
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spiral patterns that give the place its
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name. There's a scattering of snow on
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the ground, but mostly ice. My only
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companions are a few hearty cormorants up
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on the northern point. I probably should
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have waited for spring, but I couldn't
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leave you all hanging. Honestly, though, it's
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kind of nice down here in the
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pines. Quiet. I know, I know, you're
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waiting for me to talk about the
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trees. Well, let me tell you, the
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sketches and bark rubbings don't do them
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justice. There must be hundreds of them
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down. here, all different sizes, ranging from
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about waist-high to around 60 feet or
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so. It's a little over 18 meters
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for my international listeners. The needles are
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dark green on top, pale blue on
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the bottom, long and soft, like the
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bristles of a paintbrush, but sharp. I
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ran my hand over one and had
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a dozen of them slip through my
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glove and into my palm. I didn't
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even feel them go in. They cover
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the ground, the needles, thick and bouncy
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like I'm walking on a mattress. Thankfully
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the soles of my boots are heavy
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enough to keep them from poking my
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feet, although they are wrecking the rubber.
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Here let me see if I can
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dig down. Wow, the needles even scar
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up metal. They're like flecks of broken
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glass. It's just rock down here. No
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soil, no water, nothing. Can't believe it.
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Looks like the roots go straight into
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the stone. I'm not sure how they
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grow. Oh, these needles
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are like birds. I can't get
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them off. It looks like there's
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a date with a pair of
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tweezers in my future. It's not
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true you can hear the pines
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whispering numbers. At least I haven't
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heard anything. There's not even any
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breeze down here. Let me turn
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the gain all the way up.
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See if you can make anything
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out. But we didn't come for
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whispers and pine needles. The trunks.
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The trunks. I'm looking at one
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now. One of the larger trees,
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it's thrust up between two broken
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boulders almost as if it ripped
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its way free. I know roots
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can crack stone, but these rocks
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look old. Before I tell you
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about the pines, it's time for
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our hidden currency segment. This one
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comes from the South Pacific. The
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islands of Yaps sit roughly equidistant
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from New Guinea and the Philippines,
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surrounded by coral atolls, home to
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manta rays, sharks, and all... manner
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of aquatic life, there are some
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of the more isolated islands on
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earth. Perhaps due to this isolation,
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the islanders developed a form of
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currency, unlike any other. giant stone
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wheels, some almost 12 feet in
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diameter and weighing up to 8
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tons. Known as Rye or Faye
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stones, the yap islanders would risk
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their lives on a roughly 300-mile
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journey to the island of Palau
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to quarry the calcite deposits, then
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ferry the impossibly heavy stones back
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to their homes. The value of
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each Rye was determined not only
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by its size and weight, but
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by the stone's history. and the
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danger undertaken in its transport, even
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the time of year it had
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been quarried. When one of these
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massive coins was used as payment,
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there would be a ceremony transferring
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ownership. The stone itself wouldn't be
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moved, but the public spectacle ensured
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everyone knew who possessed each rye.
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What a fascinating bit of numismatic
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history! I suppose you could even
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say the yap islanders invented the
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first blockchain! And that was our
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hidden currency segment, brought to you
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by my coin. My coin. It's
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already part of you. Why not
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spend it? Now back to the
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pines. There are dozens of symbols,
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even on the smallest pine. There's
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been a lot of talk in
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the forums about words or even
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messages being carved into the trunks.
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But I can tell at a
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glance these aren't letters, not words.
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They're numbers. The bark rubbings don't
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provide much insight. At first I
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thought someone had carved the trunks.
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Now I'm not so sure. If
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anything, these numbers seem to be
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grown. I thought the counting pines
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might be currency, something measured, something
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fungible, like the rhyestones. Now, down
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here among them, I don't think
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that's true. They seem more like
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an accounting, a transaction log, ancient
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bookkeeping. The bigger strings of symbols
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are inconceivably long, spiraling like wire
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up the central trunk of each
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tree. I'm going to try and...
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climb on so I can follow
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the symbols up to the higher
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branches. It's no good. I keep
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losing track. The individual numbers are
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maybe the size of a thumbnail,
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but I can see smaller ones
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in between, just beneath the bark,
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hard to see, like rocks beneath
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a strong river current. It's hard
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to keep track of them. Sorry,
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I dropped the recorder. Fortunately
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the ground is soft. Well,
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I mean the ground is
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frozen, but the needles are
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soft, fine, like baby's hair.
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My hands are covered in
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needles. Actually, they're all over
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me. Sharp and sweet. Oh,
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God, I love the smell
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of pines. Damn, I must
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have scraped myself climbing. Nothing
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major, just a little blood.
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Okay, more than a little,
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but nothing to be worried
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about. They're under my skin,
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the needles, little slivers of
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insight. It doesn't hurt. If
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anything, it feels good. It
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feels like understanding. Don't worry,
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I'll head back to the
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tent in a few. A
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little god should do the
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trick. For now, I need
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to look deeper. Yes. I
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can see them now. Smaller
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and smaller, like... ants like
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fleas like atoms they're rising
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through the bark the ground
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the air through me I
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need to take off my
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coat oh my hands my
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arms it's it's beautiful the
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numbers grow from me roots
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cracking brittle stone I understand
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now The pines aren't counting.
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Additions, subtraction, such two-dimensional accounting
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cannot possibly encompass what I'm
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seeing here. There are more
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directions than we perceive. Unseen
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geometries shifting just beyond... on
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sight, our reality circumscribed by
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the bounds of inadequate arithmetic.
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We have been tricked. A
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lie of a mission but
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a line, nonetheless. The pines
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can show me. All I
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need is a better view.
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Gotta get down into the
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needles. It hurts, but I
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don't mind. Everything has a
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price. Especially the truth. Oh,
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there fella. That is
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not a good place
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to lie down. Who
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are you? Are you
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another seeker of the
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hidden currencies? No. Why
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do people keep thinking
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that? I'm just out
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for a walk. Needed
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to grab some of
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these needles for a
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sewing project. But you
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look like you could
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use a hand, friend.
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I'm right where I'm
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meant to be. Each
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cell is a coin,
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counting and being counted,
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part of the crimson
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chain that flows. That's
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enough. You've just got
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a bit of the
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math-pin sickness. Here, take
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a sip of this.
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Ow! Ow! What? Where
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am I? Not to
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worry there, young fellow.
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You just had a
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bit of a whoopsie
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out here. See, there's
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crypto and then there's
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crypto. That sip of
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void grass extract will
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help. Well, I'm gonna
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walk back to my
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RV and we'll get
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you patched up. You
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look a bit like
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a pine and a
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bit like a hedgehog.
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I feel strange. Well,
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that's not the worst
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thing to feel. We're
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all strange animals. Might
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as well act like
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it. Thanks to Evan.
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Dickon for writing the
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bulk of today's episode.
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By day, Evan studies
12:12
old Japanese maps and
12:14
crunches data for medical
12:16
research at Ohio State
12:18
University. By night, he
12:20
does neither of these
12:22
things. His audio fiction
12:24
can be heard performed
12:26
on The No Sleep
12:28
podcast, Pseudopod, beneath ceaseless
12:30
skies and podcast. He
12:33
also writes media tie-in
12:35
fiction for Legend of
12:37
the Five Rings and
12:39
Warhammer, Age of Sigma.
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If you've got nothing
12:43
better to do, feel
12:45
free to visit him
12:47
at evendicken.com. And thanks
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to Matthew Zahnzinger for
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voicing our kryptonumismist. Matthew
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is an amateur chef,
12:56
a would-be world traveler.
12:58
and still very much
13:00
a stage actor in
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the greater Boston area.
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If you're also in
13:06
the area, check out
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theater uncorked.com for info
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on his next performance
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in The Lion in
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Winter this December. He
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has been a regular
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Penumbra podcast and a
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featured guest on Second
13:25
Star to the Left.
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Cryptonaturalist.com. Stay curious. PostScript
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Folks who think to
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spend nature as if
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it were currency will
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learn in time that
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not all value is
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within the reach of
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human reckoning. You know,
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money may be imaginary,
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but imaginary is certainly
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not the same as
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harmless.
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