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Central. America loves
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guns! Hell I love guns,
1:45
but I also hate guns.
1:47
Another mass shooting in America? Another
1:49
mass shooting. Yet another mass shooting.
1:51
So I was wondering, what if
1:53
there was a world... where people
1:55
could keep their guns and have
1:58
no mass shootings. Welcome to Switzerland,
2:00
the neutral country most known for
2:02
its cobblestone streets perfect for skipping,
2:04
its clocks, sophisticated pocket knives, and
2:06
guns. Turns out peaceful Switzerland is
2:08
one of the most heavily armed
2:10
nations in the world. And like
2:12
America, they love their guns. Yet
2:14
they have almost zero gun violence.
2:17
How the fuck is that possible.
2:19
Luckily, I ran into an expert.
2:21
Is that a gun in your
2:23
pocket or you just... Oh no,
2:25
that's a gun. Meet Miko. For
2:27
20 plus years, he's been a
2:29
firearms instructor for law enforcement personnel,
2:31
military, and special forces. He also
2:33
happens to be one hunk of
2:35
a man. So, Thor, tell me
2:38
about Swiss gun culture. We respect
2:40
the guns because we have a
2:42
mandatory service. A man goes to
2:44
the army, they get a training
2:46
and a rifle in case of
2:48
the invasion. Which to be fair
2:50
is a real threat, since the
2:52
last time Switzerland was invaded was
2:54
in 1798, before color was invented.
2:57
So of course they have a
2:59
militia. The culture is a little
3:01
bit different, comparing to some other
3:03
country. You're familiar that I'm American,
3:05
right? You can just say these
3:07
things to my face. You don't
3:09
have to say other countries. I
3:11
think the gun culture in America
3:13
is getting out of hand. This
3:16
is a joke. There should be
3:18
common sense gun loss. Common sense.
3:20
That's not our strength. Yeah, I've
3:22
noticed that. Yeah, well, I can
3:24
say that, but I don't like
3:26
it when you say that. Okay.
3:28
But what we do have is
3:30
that good old American gun freedom.
3:32
You know how easy it is
3:34
to get a gun in the
3:37
US? I just go to Walmart,
3:39
shh, give them the money, gun.
3:41
I know. My uncle, Paul. out
3:43
of his truck, he's got a
3:45
bunch of guns. My brother Todd
3:47
has a gun, you want to
3:49
use it? Boom, borrow for the
3:51
weekend. That's nice. Not really. In
3:53
Switzerland, you can get a gun
3:56
from your grandparents or from your
3:58
father, but you still have... to
4:00
do the paperwork. Even if I
4:02
get a gun for my grandpa,
4:04
I still got to tell the
4:06
cops about it? Yeah. That's crazy,
4:08
because in most states in America,
4:10
you can buy a gun almost
4:12
immediately without any background check. But
4:15
not in Switzerland. You applied the
4:17
permit from the police, you provide
4:19
clearance of your criminal record that
4:21
you don't have any convictions, wait
4:23
for two weeks. What if it's
4:25
a small crime? What if you
4:27
got caught urinating in public? You
4:29
got caught for sleeping with your
4:31
cousin because you didn't know it
4:34
was a cousin because it was
4:36
at your family reunion and she
4:38
looked like she worked at catering.
4:40
What if it's like assaulting a
4:42
police officer, but really you were
4:44
just tickling them? She can't be
4:46
responsible of following some other simple
4:48
rules in society to behave. Why
4:50
should you have a gun? You
4:52
don't need to raise your voice
4:55
over this? Was there even a
4:57
payoff to all these rules? How
4:59
many school shootings have there been?
5:01
None. What about malls? Everybody people
5:03
should... No. What about like major
5:05
holidays? People get shot up at
5:07
major holidays here? Nothing. Come on
5:09
with all those guns they had
5:11
to have at least one mass
5:14
shooting somewhere. But they haven't had
5:16
one since? You say agree, Abley?
5:18
You had a mass shooting 17
5:20
years ago. We have one every
5:22
17 minutes. Yeah, I have a
5:24
change in. For example, the Munition,
5:26
some plu, important, with the disarmah.
5:28
This is something that I'm having
5:30
a hard time comprehending. You learned
5:33
from a mistake, and you made
5:35
an improvement in the law. That's
5:37
so Europe. And while Switzerland's last
5:39
mass shooting was in 2001, America
5:41
has had... No, keep going. No,
5:43
more. More? Yeah, there you go.
5:45
Over 1900 mass shooting since 2012,
5:47
averaging to about one a day.
5:49
Which is why Miko felt I
5:52
needed to be properly trained before
5:54
I headed back to the states.
5:56
We have to talk about safety
5:58
first. Can I like... Like with
6:00
this one? Yeah, just leave it
6:02
along. Don't touch it. How are we
6:04
going to shoot it if I can't
6:07
touch it? Let me explain you the
6:09
rules first. So, number one thing that
6:11
you have to remember is that you
6:14
always treat the guns as if they're
6:16
loaded. Because probably most of
6:18
the accidents that happens happens
6:20
with empty guns. All right, so
6:23
this one here, this- Don't touch it.
6:25
Don't touch it. I think you don't
6:27
pay enough, you know, what I'm saying-
6:29
I got a feeling that you're not
6:31
paying attention. What? No, I am.
6:34
Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's
6:36
blow some shit up. Meeko, when you
6:38
load these things, you ever get a
6:40
little bit of a erection? Do
6:43
exactly what I say, okay? Okay.
6:45
All right, pay attention. Pay attention.
6:47
Pay attention. Okay, and slowly
6:50
press back until the gun
6:52
goes off. Jesus! This scares the
6:54
shit out of me. I'm glad we
6:56
had that safety instruction. This is
6:58
the dream. Shooting guns without the
7:00
fear of getting shot? This is
7:03
where America should be. All we
7:05
need to do is keep ammo
7:07
separate and have universal criminal and
7:09
mental background checks. Have extremely strict
7:12
open carry laws, justification for ownership.
7:14
Send written requests to authorities and...
7:16
Basically just change our entire gun
7:18
culture. We can do that, right?
7:21
It's not really that fun when
7:23
you keep shitting yourself. You get
7:25
used to it. No,
7:31
this isn't a green screen.
7:34
This is real, disgusting Switzerland.
7:36
A neutral country full of
7:39
non-competitive chocolate-eating yodlers. And they're
7:41
also full of guns. In
7:43
my previous report, I trained
7:46
with firearms expert, Mico. Mico,
7:48
look, I shot some holes
7:51
in the Swiss cheese. I get... I put
7:53
the... I learned that when it comes
7:55
to gun culture, Switzerland has
7:57
a few more regulations than...
7:59
And thanks to these gun
8:01
regulations and strict ammunition control, Switzerland
8:04
has a murder rate of nearly
8:06
zero. Sure, that's a great statistic,
8:09
but how safe can it really
8:11
be? To learn more about their
8:13
gun culture, I attended the world's
8:16
largest annual shooting festival right here,
8:18
and... Holy shit, that's a lot
8:20
of guns. Even that baby has
8:23
a gun. There's not enough training
8:25
in the world to prepare me
8:27
for this so I brought my
8:30
two secret weapons my translator Pierre
8:32
and my supermanly rock-hard American vest
8:35
Why are you wearing a pussy
8:37
West? What is what is it
8:39
here? Pussy vest. Oh, that's that's
8:42
funny Pussy vest. Why aren't you
8:44
wearing a pussy vest? People are
8:46
walking around with guns because it's
8:49
safe. Oh my god, what is
8:51
that? Oh my god They're shooting,
8:54
no worries. They're shooting. Yeah, shooting
8:56
over there, not here. How many
8:58
accidents have happened here? Nine. Nine
9:01
accidents. Nine accidents? No, no, no.
9:03
Zero. Zero. Zero. Zero. I thought
9:05
you said nine. Nine. Okay. It's
9:08
a German language. It's a German
9:10
language. I know in the United
9:12
States, American, this is dangerous. But
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in the Switzerland, we have Radisson.
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now I'm standing on top
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of Lake Erie well I'm
14:25
actually on a boat
14:27
that's on you know how
14:29
that works recently All
14:40
right, can we go back? I
14:42
think I'm gonna pue. Local activist
14:44
Markey Miller is one of the
14:46
human people responsible for getting the
14:48
Lake Erie Personhood Initiative passed. Our
14:50
premise was to change the notion
14:53
that nature is merely property and
14:55
that if you own the permit,
14:57
that you get to destroy it
14:59
to harm it. So by giving
15:01
Lake Erie its own set of
15:03
rights, we have a better way
15:05
of enforcing protections. How far can
15:07
this go? A lake is a
15:09
person? What's next? It's a swimming
15:12
pool a person? Is a dog
15:14
a person? Is a child a
15:16
person? Do you see how slippery
15:18
this slope is? Well, much like,
15:20
you know, a child, we often
15:22
have someone else speak on their
15:24
behalf. And I think that tends
15:26
to be our relationship with Lake
15:28
Erie, that we become trustees of
15:31
this lake. You can be honest
15:33
here. I'm from Michigan. Anyone that's
15:35
been down here knows that people
15:37
here, they kind of marched to
15:39
their own drummer. Sure. Definitely not
15:41
at all. So making a lake
15:43
into a person is clearly a
15:45
weird sex thing, but Markey and
15:48
her fellow conservationists have even more
15:50
selfish motivations. The toxic water situation
15:52
in Ohio that prompted the governor
15:54
to declare a state of emergency.
15:56
Lake Erie, a major source of
15:58
drinking water, serves 400,000 people. We
16:00
lost access to our drinking water
16:02
for three... days. It impacted 500,000
16:04
people. They couldn't bathe, they couldn't
16:07
touch the water, you couldn't do
16:09
your laundry, wash your dishes. Water
16:11
became a really scarce commodity. It
16:13
wasn't available. Oh, God damn, that's
16:15
good. We realized how vulnerable
16:17
we were and how precious the
16:20
resource was that it could be
16:22
taken away just like that.
16:24
It is something that we enjoy,
16:26
isn't it? But is turning
16:28
your lake into a person
16:30
really the best way to
16:32
protect it? Apparently so. According
16:34
to the Community Environmental Legal
16:36
Defense Fund, which has successfully
16:38
turned nature into persons in
16:40
places as exotic as Ecuador,
16:42
New Zealand, and Pennsylvania. Well,
16:44
we describe it more as
16:46
the right to live, to flourish,
16:48
exist, be healthy. But yeah, in our
16:51
legal world, we use personhood rights. I
16:53
mean, what is a person? Tish. Is
16:55
this lake a person? A person? It's
16:58
living. It's living. Okay. What about that
17:00
river? Yeah, it's living and there's life
17:02
all around it and in it and
17:04
it's living. Is this a person? Oh
17:07
my God, Jesus, sorry. Why was
17:09
that there? Why was that there? Why
17:11
was that in there? What do you
17:13
say to your critics that say, this
17:16
is absolutely bad shit? crazy. I don't
17:18
find this crazy at all because corporations
17:20
have had personhood rights so they're not
17:23
even a living entity and yet nature
17:25
that we depend on is not considered
17:27
having the same rights that we do
17:29
or the corporations do. And there's tons
17:31
of opposition to giving Lake Erie the
17:33
rights of a person from farms, the
17:35
state government, fishermen with IBS, basically anyone
17:38
else trying to get rid of their
17:40
toxic dumps. Found out that... BP was
17:42
basically the sole funder of the
17:44
campaign against the Lake Erie Bill
17:46
of Rights. They spent. BP. BP.
17:48
Yep. Black people. You know, I always
17:50
knew. Is that? British Petroleum.
17:52
British Petroleum. Can we
17:55
cut that? Can we put that
17:57
part out? British Petroleum. They do have
17:59
a refinery. not far off from
18:01
Toledo, but I think that it
18:03
was more about you know not
18:06
wanting this idea of rights of
18:08
nature to to take off but
18:10
you know we do live here
18:13
and we're not going to sit
18:15
back and be poisoned. You know
18:17
Markey I have to admit when
18:20
I came here I thought I
18:22
thought it was bullshit Markey I
18:24
kind of thought you were this
18:27
crazy woman who decided to make
18:29
Lake Erie a person. But here
18:31
you are on the battlegrounds every
18:33
day fighting against big agriculture, fighting
18:36
against the state of Ohio, fighting
18:38
for this beautiful body of water.
18:40
The real hero here. Yeah, you
18:43
a little bit. But even more
18:45
so than that, I'm the one
18:47
who's showcasing you. So if anything,
18:50
I'm the hero. And that's why
18:52
I love this story. So maybe
18:54
a person can make a difference.
18:57
And maybe a lake can become
18:59
a person. And maybe you can
19:01
even get married to the handsome,
19:04
sensitive correspondent who saved it. I
19:06
do. Because true love is pure.
19:08
It is deep. It is clear.
19:11
It's perfect and it tastes sweet.
19:14
Why didn't
19:17
you tell
19:21
me there's
19:25
something wrong
19:28
with this
19:32
water? while
19:36
dressed like kids whose divorced dads
19:39
made their Halloween costumes. And these
19:41
World War II reenactment rejects have
19:43
one other thing in common. They
19:46
are angry. But what do they
19:48
have to be so angry about?
19:51
I'm a white guy. Things are
19:53
great. Cops don't pull me over.
19:55
I pull them over and ask
19:58
for a bottle opener. Thanks, Officer.
20:00
No, you have a great. There's
20:02
no logical reason why the alt-right
20:05
should be so angry. They're kind
20:07
of winning. But what if there
20:10
was a deeper reason for their
20:12
frustration? Across the alt-right movement, leaders
20:14
are telling young men not to
20:17
masturbate. It is... Whoa, wait. What?
20:19
Clinical psychologist Dr. David Lay, has
20:21
a theory about why these young
20:24
men are so angry. They're not
20:26
strangling their pepes. They know how
20:28
to masturbate. They're not going side
20:31
to side, right? They know it's
20:33
up and down? I don't think
20:36
this is a technique issue. They
20:38
are actually trying not to masturbate.
20:40
You should take me hours. Now,
20:43
it's like... Yeah, you know what
20:45
I mean? Well, I have one
20:47
hand, so, you know, it... It
20:50
gets lots of practice. This guy
20:52
masturbates. Dr. Lay explained that the
20:55
main proponents of this no-wank philosophy
20:57
were the proud boys. Masterbation is
20:59
lack of impulse control. The proud
21:02
boys believe that not masturbating increases
21:04
their testosterone and makes them more
21:06
desirable to women, which brings up
21:09
one question. Is it working for
21:11
the proud boys? Research actually finds
21:14
that less masturbation reduces testosterone. So
21:16
there's evidence that masturbating makes you
21:18
a more masculine man. A lot
21:21
of really good things happen in
21:23
your body and your brain, but
21:25
also research is finding that people
21:28
who watch more pornography, they are
21:30
more feminist, and interestingly they develop
21:32
more egalitarian values over time. You're
21:35
right. I watch a lot of
21:37
gangbangs, and one day I thought,
21:40
oh my God, women have it
21:42
so hard. This isn't fair. 95
21:44
guys and one girl. We need
21:47
some better representation here. And the
21:49
Proud Boys are just the tip.
21:51
There are stroke shamers all over
21:54
the alt-right. So Canadian psychologist Dr.
21:56
Jordan Peterson, he's leader in the
21:59
alt-right movement in Canada. And he
22:01
tells young men, there's nothing noble
22:03
about masturbating to pornography. It's terrible.
22:06
I mean, what else are they
22:08
going to do up there in
22:10
between periods of hockey? That's noble?
22:13
That's healthy. Exactly. That's healthy. David
22:15
Duke, who is a former grand
22:17
wizard of the KKK. He believes
22:20
that pornography is a Jewish conspiracy
22:22
to get young white men to
22:25
masturbate instead of procreating. And so
22:27
the white race dies out. What
22:29
is it about the Jews with
22:32
these guys? And speaking to which,
22:34
this far-right moratorium on salami wrestling
22:36
has been going on longer than
22:39
you think. The Nazis taught young
22:41
men not to masturbate. Nazis. Nazis
22:44
used sexual suppression as a way
22:46
to increase malleability in people. If
22:48
we can get people to give
22:51
up masturbation, we can get them
22:53
to do anything. First they came
22:55
for our flashlights, and I said
22:58
nothing. So it's not just the
23:00
insidious beliefs mob violence and haircuts,
23:03
the alt-right jack this off the
23:05
Nazis, too? They're teaching these kids
23:07
to hate themselves, to be ashamed
23:10
of themselves. And then they can
23:12
exploit them. Wow. They go down
23:14
this rabbit hole of these extreme
23:17
dangerous beliefs and become radicalized. So
23:19
what you're saying is masturbation can
23:21
save lives. Definitely. You know what?
23:24
Let's do it right now. Let's
23:26
show them all. Let's go. I
23:29
love talking to you, man. Come
23:31
on. Take out your damn! We
23:33
can't show you the rest of
23:36
that interview, but I will say,
23:38
when I think about these young
23:40
people being manipulated into joining hate
23:43
groups, it makes me very angry
23:45
and frustrated and... Excuse me for
23:48
one second. Anyway... If you or
23:50
anyone you know seems to be
23:52
getting drawn into the alt-right... Before
23:55
buying that teaky torch, try lighting
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the one inside. your khakis first.
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for your life. What
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the hell is this? This was
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the alien-ware training facility for e-sports
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team liquid Complete with scrimmage stations
27:09
a warroom PR department a team
27:11
coach and even an in-house chef
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The team star whose name is
27:16
Taco was acquired from Brazil's top
27:18
team. This is a real sport.
27:21
You call yourself an athlete? Yes,
27:23
of course to compete we go
27:25
to tournaments. We travel a lot
27:28
We got some money Mr. Taco
27:30
do every day? Just practice? Yeah.
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I have a former professional tennis
27:35
player. That's what I would call
27:37
like a real sport. There is
27:39
an opponent and you would relish
27:42
the opportunity to defeat them with
27:44
your racket. What do you actually
27:46
have to show for what you're
27:49
doing? Come on. I have a
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really strong finger. A finger? Yes,
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this finger. I will kill at
27:56
least one million people. That fingers
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killed one million... Yes. At least.
28:00
Taco is referring to his kills
28:03
and counter-strike, a game where guys shoot
28:05
other guys before a bomb goes off,
28:07
apparently. How is this a sport? I
28:09
won the Ann Arbor Junior Open at
28:12
11 years old. How hard can it
28:14
be to pound on these dorts? What
28:16
are you staring at, huh? I don't
28:18
know, whoop your ass next. To the
28:21
left. You think it's... Oh, Jesus, Christ!
28:23
I shot him four times, he shoots
28:25
me once and I die. These games
28:27
were clearly rigged against more muscular athletes.
28:30
Oh Jesus, how don't I keep dying,
28:32
Taco? But who's paying for these
28:34
cucks to sit around all day
28:37
and mash buttons? Apparently guys like
28:39
three-time NBA champion Rick Fox, owner
28:41
of e-sports franchise Echo Fox. What
28:44
are you doing with these nerds, man?
28:46
You're a real athlete. And so are they.
28:48
What the shit are you talking
28:50
about? Me and you, we played
28:52
real sports. You know, you can
28:55
see our balls in our pants
28:57
when we played. Were you an
28:59
athlete? Oh yeah. Yeah. I
29:02
played professional tennis. I was
29:04
ranked 864 in the world.
29:06
Oh, okay. You win a
29:08
couple tournaments? No, I didn't win
29:11
the tournaments, but... How much
29:13
money did you make in your career?
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You made $11,000. error. I think there
29:17
was no shame around pursuing a career
29:20
in professional sports because you could get
29:22
a scholarship to college, which by the
29:24
way you can get as an e-sports player
29:26
now. There's a number of colleges that
29:29
are building e-sports arenas on their campuses.
29:31
This is all great, but let's get
29:33
down to brass tax here. How much
29:35
do these e- fleets make? Probably the
29:38
best top laner in the world in
29:40
one of our games. He makes probably
29:42
800,000. What? And while players
29:44
like Taco made over
29:46
800K last year, other
29:49
top gamers earned upwards
29:51
of $4 million. And
29:53
thanks to advertising and
29:55
sponsorships, revenues will top
29:57
$1.4 billion this year!
29:59
Are you kidding me? But
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what really makes it legit is
30:04
Vegas sports books take bets on
30:06
it. So I did what anyone
30:08
would do. Sold my dog for
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3,000 bucks and put it all
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on team liquid at the Barclays
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Center. I'll buy them back after
30:17
I win. Amsterdam, London, Cologne, Montreal.
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I don't game of shit. You're
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in Brooklyn now, baby. This is
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the Barclays Center. This is where
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champions play and the Brooklyn Nets.
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We're gonna heal as a team,
30:31
or we're gonna die as individuals.
30:34
Did I make myself clear? Yeah,
30:36
I did. Come on! All right,
30:38
ignore all that, and we just
30:41
followed the game pun. Let's go,
30:43
guys. It was time for Team
30:45
Liquid to win in the semi-finals
30:47
and make me some money. Team
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Liquid! Let's go! You definitely felt
30:52
like a real sport. These gaming
30:54
gladiators were ready for bounds. Ladies
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and gentlemen, the moment, you've all
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been waiting for team liquid boxes
31:01
gambit. Click your mouth! They flex
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31:06
They adjusted their headsets. Come on!
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