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with your host, John. I
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was just, I was just, no,
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stop, this is it! Can I
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tell you something? And I mean,
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this is sincerely, ever since we
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started spraying the audience with
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cocaine before the show. Well,
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I'm with the Daily Show.
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My name is John Stewart.
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Great show for you tonight.
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Rahm Emanuel will be joining
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me later to remind me.
2:48
Reminding me just
2:50
which one of the three
2:52
brothers he is again. I
2:55
don't know. See the one
2:57
that owns UFC? Does it
2:59
matter at this point? But
3:02
that is later. First, as
3:04
you know, our economy.
3:06
Our economy is in
3:08
the midst of a
3:10
beautiful metamorphosis. Turning
3:13
from a
3:15
simple caterpillar.
3:17
into a
3:20
dead caterpillar.
3:23
So
3:25
let's get
3:28
into it
3:31
with another
3:36
exciting
3:39
installment
3:42
of trade
3:45
wars. I was
3:47
thrilled. Excited about deregulation,
3:50
tax cuts, and the
3:52
fact that you could once again
3:54
call people sugar tits. One top
3:56
banker told the paper that
3:58
he feels liberated. Because now
4:01
he can use offensive slurs
4:03
like the R word and
4:05
the P word without fear
4:08
of getting canceled at work.
4:10
Hmm. The R word and
4:12
the P word? Well, I
4:14
can tell you today that
4:17
that top banker is definitely
4:19
using both of those words.
4:21
Perhaps even adding a motherfucker
4:23
right now. The market meltdown
4:26
for the third straight day.
4:28
Global markets are sinking. Markets
4:30
across Asia, Europe and Australia
4:32
plunging. At one point this
4:35
morning, the Dow sinking almost
4:37
1600 points. The markets lost
4:39
more than six and a
4:41
half trillion dollars in value.
4:44
This is an economic Armageddon.
4:59
wears a Hawaiian shirt to
5:02
an economic army. What are
5:04
we doing here? Pull you
5:07
in from the pool? Either
5:09
the financial channels, rod, need
5:12
danger field? I told my
5:14
wife about the stock plunge.
5:16
She said, oh, I thought
5:19
you guys would never go
5:21
down there. could
5:34
have lasting effects on the global
5:37
economy, on everyday Americans, and most
5:39
worryingly, the stock portfolios of members
5:41
of Congress. Mr. President, now is
5:44
the time to soothe a worried
5:46
nation. Donald Trump put this out
5:49
on social media. Don't be weak,
5:51
don't be stupid, don't be a
5:53
panican, which he has termed a
5:56
new party based on weak and
5:58
stupid people. Panicam?
6:09
The genius who
6:12
gave us classics
6:15
like Sleepy Joe
6:18
and Crooked Hillary
6:21
just shit out
6:24
you're a Panicam?
6:27
How about hysterocrats?
6:30
Repusicans! How about
6:33
cryontologists? Did
6:36
the overseas factory, you had
6:39
been sourcing your nicknames from,
6:41
get shut down during the
6:44
terror war? So we're going
6:46
to try this again, Mr.
6:49
President. Can you ease the
6:51
fears of this nation? Like
6:54
a true leader. President Trump,
6:56
holding firm, posting on true
6:59
social, only the week will
7:01
fail. Has the same tagline
7:04
as season three of squid
7:06
game? That's supposed to make
7:09
it feel better? Only the
7:11
week shall die in my
7:14
economy. By the way, in
7:16
case you didn't get the
7:19
point that he doesn't give
7:21
a f-f-t-f-t. He spent the
7:24
weekend showing, not telling. He
7:26
played not a round of
7:29
golf this weekend, a tournament
7:31
of golf. A three-day tournament.
7:34
812 holes of golf with
7:36
his live golf Saudi benefactors.
7:39
And in case you're wondering
7:41
about the venerated journalists who
7:44
are now allowed to be
7:46
in the press pool, this
7:49
was literally the first question
7:51
he was asked on Air
7:54
Force One in the middle
7:56
of a financial meltdown. I
8:00
won the tournament mom.
8:03
I'm a good boy.
8:05
You heard I won.
8:07
I won. You heard
8:10
I won. I won.
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I won. Mom. I
8:14
won. Mom. I won.
8:16
Mom. I won. Mom.
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Mom. I won. I
8:21
won the tournament. Mom.
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I'm a good boy.
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Good boy. Good boy.
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I know the stock market is
8:33
not the totality of the economy,
8:35
but if I remember correctly in
8:37
the run-up to the election, Trump
8:39
seemed very concerned about the stock
8:41
market. If Harris wins this election,
8:43
the result will be a Kamala
8:45
economic crash, a 1929-style depression. And
8:48
anything she can do, I can
8:50
do better! And
9:09
it didn't have to happen like
9:11
this. Trump had so many options
9:13
to shape the world economy into
9:15
the one he thought was fairer.
9:17
He could have proposed some incentives
9:19
to bring back manufacturing. He could
9:22
have gone sector to sector, nation
9:24
to nation, and negotiate better trade
9:26
reciprocal agreements. But he had to
9:28
go to full Teresa. To
9:42
be fair to the Trump
9:45
administration, they did give it
9:47
almost two months and no
9:49
effort before they asked chat
9:51
GPT what it thought they
9:53
should do. But for those
9:55
of us who've been tricked
9:57
into believing that an economic
10:00
crisis is a crisis, Trump's
10:02
people have an answer. Don't
10:04
panic. Calm down. Everything's going
10:06
to be okay. I wouldn't
10:08
not worry at all. The
10:10
Dow's actually in the same
10:12
place it was in August.
10:15
Do me a favor. Don't
10:17
look at your stock portfolio.
10:19
You know what? I don't
10:21
really care about my 401k.
10:23
Leave, laugh, love. That's what
10:25
I always say. You know
10:27
what I say to you.
10:30
It's 401k somewhere. And when
10:33
did the Wright become so
10:35
chill? Aren't you the Bud
10:38
Lights turning my kid's trans
10:40
folks? But economic meltdown and
10:42
you're getting all philosophical? Losing
10:45
money costs you nothing. This
10:47
is just the reality of
10:50
life. Like, were you young
10:52
and dumb? Everyone loses money.
10:54
Everyone loses money. Everyone loses
10:57
money. It costs you nothing.
10:59
Except money. Losing money. Losing
11:02
money. Cost you money. Definition
11:04
of losing money. And I
11:07
know you go, well, it's
11:09
going to be worth it
11:11
to get the character of
11:14
the country that we want
11:16
back again. But we have
11:19
no fucking idea if that's
11:21
actually what's going to happen.
11:24
You're all acting like the
11:26
tariff regime is a tried
11:28
and true remedy. Oh, of
11:31
course, this is the medicine
11:33
that's always prescribed, except the
11:36
last time it was tried
11:38
a hundred years ago, we
11:41
had a great depression. So
11:43
how does this work? It's
11:45
just a big game of
11:48
economic operation as he's sticking
11:50
things in trying to take
11:53
out tariffs. It's like, you
11:55
know, when you're up my
11:57
age, you gotta call it
12:00
ascopy, you need a full
12:02
colonic, like, to feel better,
12:05
you know what I mean?
12:07
Rackwhist can kill somebody in
12:10
the wrong dosages, but in
12:12
the right dosages, that can
12:14
be very healthy. for the
12:17
patient. So everyone relax. This
12:19
is merely a routine rat
12:22
poison colonoscopy. By the way,
12:24
what's the right dosage of
12:27
rat poison? Oh, if you
12:29
get enough. By the way,
12:31
what's the right dosage of
12:34
rat poison? I mean, it's
12:36
just slightly off topic, but
12:39
the colonoscopy guy? His name
12:41
is John Tobacco? That's a
12:44
witness protection thing, isn't it?
12:46
Here's how it's going to
12:48
go, your new name is
12:51
John Tobacco. Say
12:53
it back to me John tobacco
12:55
your name is John tobacco
12:57
say it back to me John
13:00
tobacco your new profession is you
13:02
do anus metaphors on newsbacks Your
13:05
name is John tobacco you do
13:07
anus metaphor. Say back If Trump
13:09
wants us to stay the course
13:12
with his radical plan You
13:14
might want to think of a
13:16
strategy that inspires our confidence that
13:19
you all know what you're doing?
13:21
Like for instance, these tariffs. Is
13:23
this a negotiation? The president made
13:26
it clear yesterday, this is not
13:28
a negotiation. Let me make
13:30
this very clear. This is not
13:33
a negotiation. This is not that.
13:35
This is a national emergency.
13:37
Okay, it's a national emergency. It's
13:39
not a negotiation. Well, I don't
13:42
agree, but at least I have
13:44
some clarity now. The tariffs
13:46
give us great power to negotiate.
14:00
So much rat
14:02
poison. So is
14:04
this a negotiation
14:07
or is this
14:09
permanent? It can
14:11
both be true.
14:13
There can be
14:15
permanent tariffs and
14:17
there can also
14:19
be negotiations. How
14:21
much white Lotus
14:24
did you people
14:26
watch? What
14:30
is permanence? In this negotiated
14:32
life we live. Have a
14:34
peanut colata. Forget about if
14:36
they're permanent or not permanent.
14:38
What are we doing? How
14:40
will this bring jobs back?
14:43
What are these jobs? Commerce
14:45
Secretary Lutnik. Trillions of dollars
14:47
of factories are going to
14:49
be built in America. The
14:51
army of millions and millions
14:53
of human beings screwing in
14:55
little, little screws to make
14:57
iPhones, that kind of thing
14:59
is going to come to
15:01
America. Americans
15:21
can develop the Dexter I
15:24
Can't even get the lint
15:26
out of the charging area
15:29
on my phone now I
15:31
got a new Those are
15:34
the jobs that kind of
15:36
thing is going to come
15:39
to America. It's going to
15:41
be automated and great Americans
15:44
the trade craft of America
15:46
is going to fix them
15:49
mechanics fixing robotics So
15:53
it's not the screws.
15:55
We're going to be
15:58
robot mechanics. The robots
16:00
do the screw. And
16:03
we're just there to
16:05
make sure the robots
16:08
are loomed. And ready
16:10
to screw. That is
16:13
the American Renaissance. We
16:15
are robot fluffers. We
16:18
are. We are waiting.
16:20
This is all. to
16:23
these onerous tariffs have
16:25
to stay in place
16:28
to convince me to
16:30
build my army of
16:33
automated screw and robot
16:35
mechanics. They are definitely
16:38
going to stay in
16:40
place for days and
16:43
weeks. John Stewart for
16:45
Popular Robot Mechanics. I've
16:48
never built a fully
16:50
automated robot factory before,
16:53
but these days and
16:55
weeks, enough time. Or
16:59
too much time. Feels like
17:01
it would take him on.
17:03
Well, I guess that's silver
17:05
lining number one of this
17:08
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17:14
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17:16
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17:18
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17:20
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17:22
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17:24
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17:27
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17:29
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17:31
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17:33
the be very take great
17:35
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17:37
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17:39
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17:41
that in the market crash
17:43
the building is still standing.
17:46
The captain of the... I
17:48
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17:50
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17:52
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17:54
it was taking a bath.
17:56
Just dipping a toe. Those
17:58
drownings should take great comfort
18:00
in the lack of back
18:02
splash. But their best argument
18:05
so far for any of
18:07
this is the same one
18:09
that we got about Tinkerbell.
18:11
Being able to fly. You
18:13
have to believe. Don't panic.
18:15
Okay, you've got a president
18:17
who understands business. I am
18:19
grateful for a commander-in-chief that
18:21
has the business acumen. Luckily,
18:24
we have a businessman in
18:26
the White House right now.
18:28
The president did write the
18:30
book, The Art of the
18:32
Deal. Trump is a master,
18:34
a negotiator, and he does
18:36
know the art of the
18:38
deal. We're supposed to trust
18:40
this guy because he wrote
18:43
the art of the deal.
18:45
Yeah, that's why we're supposed
18:47
to trust them. You ever
18:49
look at Chapter 9 and
18:51
Art of the Deal? It's
18:53
about how smart Trump is
18:55
about his casino in Atlantic
18:57
City. Oh, oh, yeah, Chapter
19:00
9. I built the casino
19:02
in Atlantic City. I'm a
19:04
business genius. Whatever happened in
19:06
the casino, Donald? You
19:29
make a big announcement, but
19:31
your reciprocal tariff formula was
19:34
just the trade deficit divided
19:36
by imports equation. And when
19:39
you got busted on that,
19:41
you threw out this ridiculous,
19:43
fucking calculus problem that's just
19:46
shapes. It boils down to
19:48
the trade deficit divided by
19:51
imports. Which is
19:53
the formula that got the
19:55
rich country of Lesotho hit
19:58
with 50% tariffs Lesotho No,
20:00
you're free rides over, you
20:02
denim-making fat cats? But we
20:05
continue to blame everybody else
20:07
in the world that we
20:10
designed and policed after World
20:12
War II. We're the richest
20:15
country in the world ever.
20:17
We're not the world's victims.
20:19
If we have inequalities in
20:22
this country, that's on us.
20:24
It's not a supply problem.
20:27
It's not unfair trade. for
20:29
the most part. It's an
20:32
investment and distribution problem. It's
20:34
our fucking fault. And I'm
20:36
not saying we can't make
20:39
adjustments and renegotiate things, but
20:41
it didn't have to be
20:44
this reckless. You killed the
20:46
hostage and then went, so,
20:49
ransom? Some of the biggest
20:51
stock market declines since the
20:53
Great Depression. The worst three
20:56
consecutive sessions since 1987. Even
20:58
worse than it was during
21:01
the 2008 financial crisis. Their
21:03
worst day since June 2020
21:06
during the COVID pandemic. Financial
21:08
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21:10
pandemic. And this time, there's
21:13
no controversy over how it
21:15
all started. There's no wet
21:18
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21:20
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21:23
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21:25
the open. This is like
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21:30
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24:04
mayor of Chicago. He
24:06
has worked for three
24:09
Democratic presidents, served as
24:11
U.S. Ambassador to Japan
24:13
under Joseph Biden. You
24:31
were back, you were, you were
24:34
in Japan. Yes. As the
24:36
ambassador. And it's still an ally?
24:38
All but a little week ago.
24:41
I was going to say, check
24:43
your phone. Then you come back
24:45
and you recently just took
24:47
a new job. What did you,
24:50
what's your new job? Well, I'm
24:52
doing daily show writing. What's
24:54
your job? Yeah, I'm working with
24:57
Center View and I do write
24:59
for the Washington Post and
25:01
I'm on CNN. I thought you
25:03
worked at an investment bank. Yeah,
25:06
center view. Oh, center view. How's
25:08
that going? When did you join?
25:11
Yeah, about a month ago.
25:13
Uh-huh. And when you got there,
25:15
let me ask a question, when
25:17
you got there, how is
25:19
it going? Well, there's a six-letter
25:22
word that a lot of people
25:24
are saying lately. Terrorists. Terrorists.
25:26
Was this a completely unexpected? I
25:29
mean, he's been talking about tariffs
25:31
forever. It seems like, did your
25:33
bank set aside anything for it?
25:36
Did they know this was
25:38
coming? Did they put, is there
25:40
a basement where they keep things,
25:43
cats? Yeah, yeah. I mean,
25:45
here is, I'm a breed calmly.
25:47
Don't panic, because everything's going to
25:49
be fine. Yeah. 11 weeks
25:51
and 11 trillion dollars out the
25:54
window. Areva dirtie? Shalom. Whoa! Yeah,
25:56
bon by your eyes. Look
25:58
at you. Yeah. And
26:01
we only have 200 more
26:03
weeks to go. Right. Yeah.
26:05
I think a trillion a
26:07
week. Yeah, as my father
26:09
would say, so what to
26:11
go wrong? Yeah. Yeah, it
26:13
takes it very easy. Yeah,
26:15
is this the colonic that
26:17
we need? In your mind.
26:19
Yeah, let me try to
26:21
help you, John. Please. Yeah.
26:23
So I mean, I'm sorry.
26:25
I have a lawn musk
26:27
measure. What does
26:29
that mean? Well, how many kids
26:31
do you have? What does that
26:34
mean? This is supposed to be
26:36
a manufacturing renaissance. A manufacturer is
26:38
going to come back. Screws. Next
26:40
to Applephones, as you said. No,
26:42
no, no, no. We're right. We're
26:44
robots. Alon Musk has a 20,000
26:46
person factory in Shanghai. When those
26:49
get repurposed back of the United
26:51
States, this is an incredible success.
26:53
Until that time, it's an absolute.
26:55
failure. And what is really, I
26:57
mean, on a serious note, also
26:59
driving me absolutely crazy. We had
27:01
China isolated. We had the whole
27:04
world angry at China for exporting
27:06
and destroying their economies, and we
27:08
were going to be their hope
27:10
and dream. We worked on getting
27:12
Japan and Korea to align with
27:14
the United States, isolate China. Now
27:16
they're working their own economic deal,
27:19
and we're isolated. It's really the
27:21
most Japan and South Korea are
27:23
working there now with China So
27:25
we all don't doesn't everybody trade
27:27
with everybody Yes But they were
27:29
but they were actually number one
27:31
foreign investor in the United States
27:34
Japan a million Americans work for
27:36
them one of the biggest manufacturing
27:38
countries that support manufacturing United States
27:40
Japan It's the most reckless thing
27:42
done by a president. I mean
27:44
there is natural disasters human disasters
27:47
there's lightning creates a fire there's
27:49
arson that creates a fire this
27:51
is arson right this is arsonist
27:53
right this is this is amo
27:55
you know I'm going to tell
27:57
you a story. This is really
27:59
the wrong direction to go in,
28:02
but I'm going to do it
28:04
anyway. You look like you're taking...
28:06
I'm thinking of how I can
28:08
do this. I was going to
28:10
bring some McSedrin for you. Exedrin.
28:12
What is this, the 40s? Yeah.
28:14
You're going to give you an
28:17
Exedrin and a Paul Mall. It'll
28:19
be fine. Oh, God's sakes. I
28:21
can give you something McKinley used.
28:23
All right. Here we go. and
28:25
he would eat whatever he could
28:27
find outside and generally things that
28:29
a dog shouldn't eat. I'm worried
28:32
where this is going. He comes
28:34
back into the house, everything's fine.
28:36
And you would go up. In
28:38
the middle of the night, he
28:40
would wake up and he would
28:42
vomit on the bed. I would
28:44
turn the light on and I
28:47
would look to try and go
28:49
get stuff to clean it. Then
28:51
he would eat the vomit and
28:53
then look at me and go,
28:55
I did good, right? Do
28:59
you see what I'm saying?
29:01
Isn't that what disease? Trump,
29:03
I guarantee, here's what's going
29:05
to happen. Trump is going
29:08
to announce he's going to
29:10
eat the vomit and look
29:12
at the country and go,
29:14
huh? He gave, he's giving
29:16
China a get-out-of-jail cart. They
29:18
were in the doghouse with
29:20
everybody. They were isolating all
29:22
their economic problems domestic. all
29:24
over the world. And they
29:26
had a lot. Pretty manufactured
29:28
Malaysia. All over the world.
29:30
Yes, yes. And they were
29:32
isolated. And they were becoming
29:34
a problem for everybody. We're
29:36
going to be the safe
29:38
haven. We've now become the
29:40
problem. We've given them a
29:42
get out of jail cart.
29:44
This is, listen, the way
29:46
I look at it, March
29:48
Madness used to be about
29:51
basketball. Right. Now, it's about
29:53
the Trump administration. Right. You
29:55
used to do brackets. Mine
29:57
was very direct. I don't
29:59
know yours. Now I'm
30:01
thinking about ceding and everything else.
30:03
I'm telling you I'm I'm I've
30:06
literally I've just gonna announce but
30:08
the only thing that I could
30:11
say good about this yeah you
30:13
could you know you see all
30:15
these CEOs on the shows that
30:18
are all now like this is
30:20
crazy this is insane I'm gonna
30:23
I'm gonna say Schmok what took
30:25
you so long I mean I
30:27
cannot believe all these guys running
30:30
around oh it's the largest tax
30:32
increase in American history thank on
30:34
for the American people. They think
30:37
this is horrible. He says I'm
30:39
going to cut. Don't. You listen
30:42
to his people? No, his people.
30:44
I'm talking about the American people.
30:46
Not his people. No, no, no,
30:49
no, no. This is the wrong
30:51
way to look at this. His
30:54
people are literally, they're like. grasp
30:56
in the English language is down
30:58
to four words. Yes, sir, Mr.
31:01
President. His people were the majority
31:03
of the voters in this country.
31:06
I used to, I worked for
31:08
three presidents. I used to be
31:10
six, two. I'm now only five,
31:13
eight. Your job is to go
31:15
in the Oval Office and tell
31:18
them, you're out of your mind.
31:20
Yes, and they go off and
31:22
they repeat all this crap on
31:25
TV. I'm five seven and I
31:27
could dunk on you. Come on,
31:29
let's go. Not
31:34
a chance. So listen to this. I
31:36
play Jewish basketball. It's five days. Jewish
31:38
basketball. That's Wilkes. The Trump is going
31:40
to say what he's going to do
31:43
is go, I just made a deal.
31:45
He did the same thing the last
31:47
time. China just said they're going to
31:49
buy all our pork and all our
31:51
soybeans. It's the best deal. Anybody's ever
31:54
made ever. They don't actually ever do
31:56
it. Nobody ever checks on it. But
31:58
why? But if you wanted to renegotiate
32:00
our trade agreements or create a fair
32:03
system or whatever it is you want
32:05
to do, why would you do it
32:07
in such a reckless fashion? I want
32:09
to go out to your first point.
32:12
Please. In your book here, The Out
32:14
of the Deal, he is the worst
32:16
negotiator. China never bought anything. They took
32:18
him to clean up. North Korea never
32:20
agreed to anything. He negotiated the trade
32:23
deal with Canada and Mexico, and then
32:25
he just blew it up. He's blown
32:27
up his own deal. Yeah. He is
32:29
not a good negotiatorator. The only person,
32:32
when you claim you're a good negotiator,
32:34
is to cover up the fact that
32:36
you're a horrible negotiator. You could have
32:38
done this seven different ways, he picked
32:40
the eighth way. Right. And it's, the
32:43
problem is not just, and you are
32:45
right, he's going to say after Japan
32:47
or after Israel, I got this deal
32:49
and he's going to try to calm
32:52
the markets down, but the fact is
32:54
the damage to America, nobody will ever
32:56
trust us. In eight weeks. He's destroyed
32:58
80 years of reputation that America built,
33:01
all of us collectively, all through all
33:03
the battles. He has destroyed him. Just
33:05
like, just like your dog. He threw
33:07
up on the bed. That was my
33:09
point. That was the point of the
33:12
whole story. Did you miss the point
33:14
of the whole story? That was my
33:16
point. But I wanted to say it
33:18
my way and I feel better for
33:21
being here. Thank you, John. You think
33:23
I just brought that up randomly? No,
33:25
that was... Now let's put that to
33:27
the other side of the coin. Okay.
33:30
Democratic policy has led us in some
33:32
measure to this moment. No, no doubt
33:34
about it. Here's a here, we got
33:36
to own this, here's the fact, which
33:38
is we disappointed the country. Now, they
33:41
will stab you in the back, we
33:43
will disappoint you. And that's just down
33:45
to where it is. And you get
33:47
to pick as the American people. That's
33:50
the choice. That's the good news stuff.
33:52
And we got it. And here's the
33:54
deal. Here's what we do. Didn't you
33:56
want to be the DNC chair? That
33:59
is a terror. Terrible
34:01
bumper sticker. No, you're asking, you know,
34:03
why, we gotta be honest. Yes. When
34:05
you make a mistake, you gotta own
34:08
it. And that's the only way to,
34:10
and here, and here, no, here's, and
34:12
here's, and here's what it is. Yeah.
34:14
We were just talking earlier. Yes. The
34:16
steward kids in the American kids, they're
34:18
gonna be good. Loving home, good education.
34:21
And the American dream, they're gonna get
34:23
a shot at it. Which is a
34:25
shot. And what happened is trying to
34:27
own a home, trying to basically save
34:29
for your retirement, save your kids' education,
34:31
and health care, so you're not in
34:34
the poor house, want sickness away. People
34:36
are missing medications, kids are coming home
34:38
from college, they're living in the basement,
34:40
and the American dream is good for
34:42
only about 10% of kids. That's not
34:45
how we keep score. And we are
34:47
responsible for not keeping things. Can't you
34:49
understand why a percentage of the population
34:51
would be like, burn it down? because
34:53
of what happened both in Iraq war,
34:55
what happened in the financial meltdown. The
34:58
American people lost their lives, their livelihood,
35:00
and the elite let them down. There
35:02
is no doubt that their right to
35:04
be angry. I have no problem with
35:06
some of the people that make up
35:08
the MAGA. They have a right to
35:11
be angry because they've lost faith with
35:13
them. What I have is all these
35:15
other executives who've lived large on America.
35:17
who allow a president to run rough
35:19
shot over the law, who run rough
35:21
shot over America, they have no right
35:24
to that. But that's not owning the
35:26
democratic failure. That's again placing it to
35:28
you. So let's stay with the Democrats.
35:30
The Democrats have a responsibility for what
35:32
they have done with losing faith. You
35:35
can't let Peoria Youngstown. You can't let
35:37
hearts of Wisconsin lacrosse. But we did.
35:39
No, we did. And that's why the
35:41
first thing. Sorry. We owe you, no
35:43
we do. You got, you have to
35:45
get clean with people on what we
35:48
did wrong and worst case scenario, we
35:50
then get sidetracked into side issues rather
35:52
than the main cause, which is the
35:54
American dream. So how would Democrats bring
35:56
that back? The American dream is unaf.
35:58
Right. It's inaccessible. Yes. And that should
36:01
be unacceptable to us. And then number
36:03
two, what you have to do is
36:05
right now is a deal with the
36:07
fundamentals. Okay? No part of America is
36:09
off from being invested or invested in.
36:11
You got to make sure every American
36:14
has a chance at the American dream,
36:16
which means it starts first and foremost
36:18
with education. Even when we didn't, hold
36:20
on, no, don't, wait a second, I
36:22
got one, I got to own that.
36:25
Okay, number two, you own with the
36:27
fact is you got to invest in
36:29
this country and we did not do
36:31
that. We basically let Americans and let
36:33
the Chinese eat their lunch and that's
36:35
not fair. But even when they did
36:38
it, I was talking to Ezra Klein,
36:40
we were talking about rural broadband, billions
36:42
of dollars invested in rural broadband, there
36:44
was a 14 point plan to get
36:46
companies to the starting line. to go
36:48
to build out of all the companies
36:51
that jumped in there. Everybody dropped out
36:53
but three. Nobody got to the starting
36:55
line. By the time their administration was
36:57
over. They invested in green technology. They
36:59
didn't build the electric charging stations. How
37:01
can you go out there and say,
37:04
we need to raise taxes and money
37:06
when people don't believe that you're going
37:08
to spend it? Like, here's what's so
37:10
upsetting about all of this. Trump is
37:12
great at diagnosing the problem. Doge is
37:14
great at telling you we need efficiency.
37:17
I think the way they go about
37:19
it is actually haphazard, cruel, reckless, doesn't
37:21
fix the problem, but they're not wrong
37:23
in the diagnosis. Yeah, you pointed out
37:25
and I have no, I agree with
37:28
you 100% of what we literally, we
37:30
did all the, passing the legislation should
37:32
be hard, not actually getting the resource
37:34
out. On the other hand, let me
37:36
give you one reverse. Can I ask
37:38
you? Is this about a dog? No.
37:41
It's about when the auto industry was
37:43
on their back. And there were literally,
37:45
I remember, as the chief of staff
37:47
for President Obama. And we got a
37:49
notice that there were six weeks left
37:51
before Chrysler and GM are belly up.
37:54
And thousands of jobs and thousands of
37:56
communities were on their back. The United
37:58
States came in and saved it. our
38:00
auto industry came back. So in fact
38:02
there is moments you can point to
38:04
you can't get a charging station you
38:07
go. Even that I'm not saying look
38:09
but let's talk about 2008 for a
38:11
second we did bail out corporations
38:13
yes but people homeowners who went
38:16
under they lost everything so you're
38:18
looking at the guy you're looking
38:20
at the guy a hundred percent It's
38:22
hard for me to go like, oh good.
38:24
You say GM, when all the guys at
38:26
work at GM, lost their f-fills. You're
38:28
looking at the guy. Well, that's actually,
38:31
that's cheap, that's not actually true.
38:33
GM jobs got saved rather than go
38:35
bad. Some people were on your front
38:37
back. Yes, but you're not totally accurate.
38:40
This may be the last time I'm
38:42
asked on the show. But on the second
38:44
thing, here's the thing. We did do, and
38:46
we saved the auto industry from
38:49
going under. And the second thing
38:51
is, on that part, on that
38:53
part, and as somebody who was
38:55
in the White House that advocated
38:57
for Old Testament Justice
38:59
on bankers, because they should have
39:02
been put into the public square
39:04
and literally had the crap beat
39:06
out of them, because they were
39:08
asking for bonuses when people were
39:10
losing their home. And I, and
39:12
I, no. And they're like, beat
39:14
them! With them! Actually, to be on
39:16
all fairness, it wasn't the oval. Put
39:19
them in a stockade! It wasn't the
39:21
oval office within the Roosevelt room. Yeah,
39:23
they should be beaten up because they're
39:25
sitting there asking for their bonuses. as if
39:27
they earned a bonus when people
39:29
lost their homes, their livelihood, and
39:31
their life savings. That's right. And
39:33
that is where we lost faith
39:35
in the Iraq war, which is
39:37
built on deception, the liars loan
39:40
that lost people in their homes,
39:42
it was built on deception, and
39:44
then you got COVID coming around
39:46
and the Democrats sat around and
39:48
acted like they were something else.
39:50
Do you ever watch what this
39:53
president is doing and think? And this is
39:55
what he used to yell at me about. I used to have to, I don't
39:57
know if you were there when I used to have to go down there and
39:59
he would yell at me. for a while. I was
40:01
one that called you. Okay. So
40:03
when he was with you, I
40:05
got free time and I actually
40:07
got both. Is that true? All
40:09
right. So do you watch what
40:11
this president does in terms of
40:13
at least the boldness of it, not
40:16
what he's doing, and think, why
40:18
didn't we push the edge and
40:20
get the things that we thought
40:22
rather than getting, if we ran
40:24
on the audacity of hope, why
40:26
did we govern on the possible?
40:28
Is that something? The
40:31
answer is in the Tamurikwai yes and
40:33
no. Okay, and I'll tell you why.
40:36
No, yes, I was like, I feel,
40:38
no, no, I feel, I feel like,
40:40
don't ever say that again. Okay, I'll
40:42
have to give you this hand. I
40:45
understand. This hand. I understand. I understand.
40:47
No, no, I feel like, don't ever
40:49
say that again. Okay. Or I'll have
40:51
to give you. I'll have a look
40:53
over. I like, like, I like, we
40:56
were schmox. We were idiots for doing
40:58
this. On the other hand, nobody would
41:00
ever have had an ethics problem in
41:02
the Obama White House. We did follow
41:05
the rules of law. America was respected
41:07
around the world, and we did create
41:09
jobs. So did we follow it and
41:11
say, oh, we should have done it
41:14
audaciously like this and break over? No,
41:16
because as many. What would you have
41:18
done though if you could? Oh, that's
41:20
going to do. We have to do
41:22
three more shows. No, but I say
41:25
two. You know my presidency is a
41:27
marathon and I hand over the patent
41:29
to somebody else to pick up I
41:31
actually think he left America better than
41:34
the one he inherited from President Bush
41:36
in a whole host of ways I
41:38
don't agree with everything and then you
41:40
look at this no I don't wish
41:43
we did this and I'm glad we
41:45
didn't do this did was it constraining
41:47
yes but leaving here literally walking around
41:49
saying huh it will be a recession
41:52
what do you need a 401k for
41:54
no and then I mean to to
41:56
to push things in a way that
41:58
didn't follow pushed a number of people
42:00
known for that. I'm asking you this
42:03
question. There are things there's no doubt
42:05
like what they're about to do. Let's
42:07
take this on the budget and say,
42:09
well, five trillion dollars in the tax
42:12
that doesn't cost anything. Well, I'm sorry,
42:14
any kid in third grade math, even
42:16
post COVID, knows what five trillion dollars
42:18
does call this stuff. Okay? I mean,
42:21
give me a break. So when they
42:23
sit there and do all this. I'm
42:25
just going through the list. I know,
42:27
but I'm only here for 20 minutes.
42:29
I want the bankers beaten. I want
42:32
the dumb children removed. Now wait a
42:34
second. I think the American people agree
42:36
with me about bankers getting beaten. No,
42:38
they're not vigilant. No, it's a cheap
42:41
high. I know, but I'm only here
42:43
for 20 minutes, so it feels pretty
42:45
good. Okay, but here's a note. The
42:47
thing is, do I feel like I
42:50
could, back to your original question? Do
42:52
I feel like we should have done
42:54
certain things like this? Yeah, but that
42:56
for a guy I believe in the
42:58
end of the day following the rules
43:01
playing by the rules is better for
43:03
the country than trying to ultimately Not
43:05
just ultimately also at the time. There
43:07
are definitely frustrating things There are things
43:10
that I look what I will say
43:12
this is you look at like what
43:14
they did on the courts and how
43:16
they stacked them versus we've kind of
43:19
the way we did it in a
43:21
sense of the process full background checks
43:23
etc You could have pushed, you could
43:25
have, no doubt, pushed that much harder
43:27
and much faster. No doubt about it.
43:30
And so if you were going to,
43:32
we'll leave it at this, the final
43:34
advice, you're a guy that's been in
43:36
the Oval Office a few times, the
43:39
Democrats are in the wilderness. I'm assuming
43:41
that whoever is going to be the
43:43
next leader of the emaker party is
43:45
going to come from the wilderness, like
43:48
it usually does. Clinton came out of
43:50
nowhere. And what would you want them
43:52
to be? Not
43:55
no, here's what I would say
43:57
on a serious note. I do want
43:59
them. I want them Not part of
44:02
Washington. I want them to have governed.
44:04
I want them to be a true
44:06
change agent. I want them to understand
44:09
one thing. The biggest thing we have
44:11
to do is restore the credibility and
44:13
trust with the American people. Competence. It's
44:16
more than competence. Competence counts, but that's
44:18
not, it's not what keeps you up.
44:20
The fair deal, the new deal, the
44:23
new frontier was not about competence.
44:25
It was about having a vision
44:27
in America, holding America to that North
44:29
Star. And that... Give me three people
44:31
that you would call on to
44:33
write that vision, to have that
44:35
vision, to help you with that vision,
44:38
to be that vision. Three? Three? Okay.
44:40
I got six for you. Okay.
44:42
Here, hold on, let me give
44:45
you this. I'm writing it down.
44:47
You got it? You want this
44:49
one? It's better. It's a little
44:51
better on that one. Yeah. Okay.
44:53
Hey, John, your dog was playing
44:55
with that beforehand. All right. Okay,
44:58
six. Okay. Governor of Pennsylvania. Shapiro.
45:00
You're just talking about the... Yeah,
45:02
you asked me who... But these
45:04
are the usual... Okay, so you're
45:06
saying it's going to come from
45:08
the... Well, the governor. The sheer,
45:10
Whitmer... Look, Gavin Newsom... The one
45:13
constant in American history is, governors
45:15
have been the most likely to
45:17
make it to Washington because they
45:19
bring change. Both parties, Ronald Reagan,
45:21
George Bush, Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton.
45:23
You go to the Woodrow Wilson,
45:25
Franklin, Delano Roosevelt. Governors are your
45:28
most likely change. Would you give
45:30
them. No, I
45:32
wouldn't because I think that you actually
45:34
have to have you know the currency
45:36
you work on in politics is politics
45:38
And if you don't have experience in
45:41
it. No, and I do think governors
45:43
bring change people that have understand But
45:45
the most important thing to me is
45:47
can you articulate that vision that takes
45:49
America out of this wilderness to a
45:52
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45:54
you're done with this It's going to
45:56
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