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place is packed.

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I'm shocked to

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see all of

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these people here.

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It was a slow bill today.

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We are here live at Nashville.

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They're engaged. They're ready to go Billy

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Dale. I didn't think they were going to

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be able to hear me, so I thought

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I could talk a little crap about them,

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but instead, we're very friendly in the titans

1:47

today. We're joined by Andrew Hawkins. Mikey A

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is here. We're going to be taking you

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through two hours. It's first round of the

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NFL draft, live again here, the Draft King

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Sport and Social, at Nashville, Tennessee. We were

1:58

driving around the city today, and the energy.

2:00

was palpable. It was electric. Everywhere we

2:02

looked, people were saying, we want cam

2:04

ward, we want cam ward. They were

2:06

screaming cam on every street corner that

2:08

we saw. This place is on fire

2:11

right now. Well, there was that one

2:13

guy screaming, we still want Will Levis.

2:15

And frankly, yeah, he's wrong. We don't

2:17

care what was wrong. Yeah, he's wrong,

2:20

yeah. So why was going to Leven

2:22

sitting downtown? What's what we were wondering.

2:24

When we encountered him. So that makes

2:26

a lot of sense. One of the

2:29

saddest things that I've seen in Nashville,

2:31

which is an incredible city, it's my

2:33

first time in the city, everyone's been

2:35

incredibly welcoming, one of the first things

2:37

I saw when we came into Nashville

2:40

was driving past the stadium. We saw

2:42

a Will Levis banner that was probably

2:44

80 feet tall. And I saw it

2:46

and I said, you know what? This

2:49

is not gonna exist tomorrow because we

2:51

don't know for sure, but it appears

2:53

as though Will Levis will no longer

2:55

be your starting. The big mural of

2:58

Will Levis still be there tomorrow. What

3:00

do you do with a mural that

3:02

size? Like if you're Will Levis, do

3:04

you ask for that? I do. For

3:07

sure, I ask for it. You put

3:09

that in storage somewhere? You put it

3:11

somewhere. Like when I eventually become a

3:13

tech CEO and have a space big

3:15

enough to actually hang a banner like

3:18

that. But you ask for it. Yeah.

3:20

Most NFL players don't. Drape your house

3:22

in it? I would be excited that

3:24

I would have had a mural at

3:27

a mural at some point. Most guys

3:29

that were like the guy and then

3:31

it comes down don't feel that way

3:33

They usually hold a grudge against the

3:36

team for forever that you hear about

3:38

30 years later on podcast But for

3:40

me, I'm asking for it. Yeah, well,

3:42

we'll love this doesn't think he's not

3:45

going to be the guy after tonight

3:47

He just thinks he'll be the guy

3:49

somewhere else. I assume he will they

3:51

will you don't think so no First

3:53

off, scouting prowess. Number two, let's not

3:56

disrespect the CFL, okay? There's a lot

3:58

of damn good football that's... played north

4:00

of the border on all three down.

4:02

Well, you have 12 guys fighting their

4:05

ass off. There's trying to make it

4:07

110 yards for a touchdown. Will Lewis

4:09

make it in Canada? Yeah, he could.

4:11

Okay. Yes. There's definitely football being played

4:14

north of the board. I don't know

4:16

about damn good, but there's football being

4:18

played. That cannot be disputed. Out to

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my Canadian fans we have a very

4:22

exciting night that person both the people

4:24

while following along on YouTube We have

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cam ward jerseys that we're gonna be giving

4:29

out cam ward Tennessee Titans jerseys before

4:31

you can even get that hot off

4:33

the press We're gonna be giving this one

4:35

out here we're giving one out online

4:37

and here's the fun thing about this

4:39

cam ward Jersey is that This is probably

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gonna be one of three Cam War

4:43

number one jerseys that exists because he's gonna

4:46

have the one that he holds up

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tonight And that he's never gonna be

4:50

number one because number one is retired because

4:52

Warren Moon run it So this is definitely

4:54

not going to be his number. Yeah, but

4:56

you can get this Jersey It would also

4:58

be even more limited edition if he doesn't

5:00

go number one That would make me like

5:02

honestly, that's kind of what I'm rooting for

5:04

and it has nothing to do with cam

5:06

ward going to the Tennessee Titans I just

5:08

want the chaos of us having cam ward

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number one overall jerseys to give out and

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he doesn't go there So there are a

5:14

few things that I have been rooting for

5:16

for this draft coming into today. Again, the

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Drafting Sport and Social, presented by Smeared Off

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the World's Number One vodka, please drink response to

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me. Coming into the draft today, there are some

5:25

things that I was rooting for. The number one

5:27

thing that I was rooting for. And again, I

5:29

love Nashville, Tennessee, and this wouldn't have changed anything.

5:31

But I was rooting that the Titans traded traded

5:34

the number one pick, so that us being here

5:36

in Nashville, when the draft was in Green Bay,

5:38

Green Bay, Wisconsin, Wisconsin. Because we thought the titles

5:40

would have the number one pick if they traded

5:42

that number one pick and didn't have it It

5:45

would have made even less sense So I was

5:47

kind of hoping that that would happen now Second

5:49

best thing that could happen is that they

5:51

don't take camp water and we're giving way

5:53

these jerseys that make absolutely no sense Collectors

5:55

items. Yes Very very rare jerseys that nobody

5:58

else on planet Earth would have yeah but

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she makes it that much more special.

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Who's gonna win it? Anybody out there

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gonna win it? You got some takers.

6:06

Some takers, okay. Is it not weird

6:08

that Little Wayne is a Green Bay

6:10

Packers fan? That's not weird to anybody

6:12

else? You have to be hurt if

6:14

you're like from New Orleans and your

6:16

Saints fan, right? You have to be

6:18

a little bit hurt? I know, but

6:20

how much he claims it? Rappers specifically

6:23

are some like location-based territorial, like it's

6:25

what they're known for is where they're

6:27

where they're where they're where they're from?

6:29

So for him to rep the Green

6:31

Bay Packers, it's a very weird thing

6:33

for me. I've never accepted it. How

6:35

many times did you interact with Roger

6:37

Giddell, if ever? I've interacted with him

6:39

twice. Uh-huh. I don't. He is very

6:41

good at, I believe, acting like he

6:43

knows who you are. Okay. And I

6:45

know people like that. That's a rare

6:47

skill. Because you're always looking for that

6:49

moment for it to be like, ha.

6:52

I knew you didn't know who the

6:54

hell I was. And I never got

6:56

it with him. So I never quite

6:58

got confirmation that he didn't know me.

7:00

But in my heart of hearts, I

7:02

feel like you have no idea who

7:04

the hell I am, Roger. Well, I

7:06

definitely didn't say your name, but you're

7:08

also too old to be called like

7:10

champer sports. So what is his go

7:12

to? There he is. And it was

7:14

like, damn it. That's the one I

7:16

hope you didn't say. You know? And

7:19

he went with it. I have, I'm

7:21

at a disadvantage with that, because everybody

7:23

always gets away with going, hey, what's

7:25

going on big fella? What's going on

7:27

big guy? And I'm like, you don't

7:29

know who I am. That transcends age,

7:31

too. That works. There's nothing I can

7:33

do about it. That works in every

7:35

stage of life, so you just gotta...

7:37

I would appreciate if people act like

7:39

they know me and don't know me.

7:41

I also wouldn't mind if they don't

7:43

know me, I prefer it, because I

7:45

prefer it. So, Hawk, we have a

7:48

number of things that I prepared today

7:50

because I wasn't sure what your anticipation...

7:52

and expectations were for the draft and

7:54

what you wanted to do. We spoke

7:56

about our prep for the draft for

7:58

about three minutes this week. And after,

8:00

and it was basically, what did they

8:02

tell you? You're like, well, I got

8:04

an email saying, can you be here?

8:06

Can I say to you? So, time

8:08

you up. We came in with a

8:10

number of games that we wanted to

8:12

play throughout the night that we don't

8:14

have to do every pick. We could

8:17

do whenever we needed. Mike, Mike, he

8:19

has anonymous sources, which. courtesy of the

8:21

USA Today, which did something that I

8:23

had never even considered, but I thought

8:25

was great. So everybody does their mock

8:27

drafts, Mel Kibert, as is mock drafts,

8:29

Todd McShay, everybody has their mock drafts

8:31

out there. USA Today had this great

8:33

idea of collecting AI mock drafts. So

8:35

they have four different AI mock drafts.

8:37

So we're going to be comparing the

8:39

actual draft two to see which AI

8:41

was closest to the actual draft. We

8:43

have. Mikey's grades, after certain picks, he'll

8:46

be giving us his grades and tell

8:48

us how that affects the team, how

8:50

he's feeling about this, all of that.

8:52

I also have offensive line rankings by

8:54

one of our co-worker Taylor's roommates named

8:56

Ian, who works in finance, but every

8:58

year he does offensive line rankings, because

9:00

he's a Jets fan, and there's always

9:02

an offensive lineman. What is his expertise

9:04

in offensive line? Absolutely none. He just

9:06

watches, he didn't even play football. He

9:08

just really goes and he grades the

9:10

offensive alignment. The Tennessee Titans are officially

9:12

on the clock. The draft is on

9:15

the clock. This is exciting. This is

9:17

exciting. We have the giveaway that we

9:19

mentioned, we also have the beast with

9:21

us from the athletics. So if we

9:23

have any questions, I can consult the

9:25

beast at any point in time. And

9:27

because we weren't sure, the level of

9:29

preparation. We went upstairs, we were eating

9:31

lunch. And Hawk was watching game tape.

9:33

And he has stuff on every single

9:35

player. So we should have you covered

9:37

for all angles today. Every single guy.

9:39

Known to man in college football. I

9:41

actually have been watching a considerable by

9:44

a college tape because of the transfer

9:46

portal. You mentioned that in passing earlier.

9:48

And I was curious as to why

9:50

you're watching the transfer portal so closely.

9:52

I'm not at liberty to say, but

9:54

let's just say I may or may

9:56

not be consulting helping an FBS football

9:58

program find the diamonds in the rough

10:00

necessary to take their program to the

10:02

next level. You know, I was watching

10:04

the film over his shoulder and his

10:06

notes in mind were very similar. Like

10:08

he was writing some stuff and I

10:11

was like, you know what? That guy,

10:13

he's got a little bit of a

10:15

problem-changing direction. There it is. I was

10:17

writing the same things. We're locked step.

10:19

Camp Ward, is this where this is

10:21

getting drafted? It would appear as though

10:23

Cam Ward will probably be the number

10:25

one pick in the draft. I was

10:27

talking to some Titans fans earlier who

10:29

were not excited about Cam Ward being

10:31

their quarterback. Why? I don't know. Ask

10:33

the guy over there with the beard

10:35

and the glasses. I need a real

10:37

reason. Ranting is right there. Why are

10:40

you not excited about Cam Ward being

10:42

your quarterback of the future? Here's what

10:44

I love about Cam Ward. He's gone

10:46

to three programs and you asked a

10:48

question earlier. But it was basically related

10:50

to like, you know, your sentiment around

10:52

the game of football as a prospect.

10:54

And a lot of times when you

10:56

see guys bounce around, program the program,

10:58

it feels oucky to me as a

11:00

football person. Like I want the person

11:02

who wants development, I want the person

11:04

who's focused more on how good they

11:06

can get, rather than what the program

11:09

is doing for them. And I don't

11:11

mean that in a negative way, but

11:13

when I look at Cam Ward, I

11:15

feel the opposite, because I feel like

11:17

he's a guy who again, started from

11:19

the low or the low or the

11:21

low or the low or the low.

11:23

There was a mean going around, like,

11:25

judging him against, I think it was,

11:27

DJ, ugulele, is that I say his

11:29

last name? Sure, yes. Yes. But he

11:31

was a five-star, camp, where was the

11:33

zero star? A zero star, going to

11:35

be a double pick in the draft.

11:38

Which means they didn't even waste the

11:40

time to grade him. So this is

11:42

the guy who bounced from program to

11:44

program, but at every level, was at

11:46

a quest to prove. he was. And

11:48

when you hear him speak, when you

11:50

hear him talking about the draft, when

11:52

you hear him talking about his career,

11:54

and he continues to lament that he

11:56

is not worried about where he's drafted,

11:58

but he is worried about the actual

12:00

career. Like he doesn't care where he's

12:02

taken, and I know that's cliche, everybody

12:04

says that, but I don't know, when

12:07

you hear him speak, you just feel

12:09

it. You feel a confidence, you feel

12:11

a guy who's out to prove he's

12:13

one of the best quarterbacks of the

12:15

best quarterbacks in the world. Going to

12:17

the Titans, is that a good spot

12:19

for him? Like, do they have enough

12:21

around him for there to be enough

12:23

success for you to think after year

12:25

one, this was a good pet? Here's

12:27

my thing with quarterbacks, especially ones that

12:29

get drafted early on. I don't want

12:31

to cuddle a first round quarterback. To

12:34

be honest, yeah, there's situations you can

12:36

go in. They're so often better than

12:38

other ones, but typically, again, a team

12:40

that's drafting that high, you're not very

12:42

good. They're the catalyst to turn that

12:44

around, who's genuinely confident to say, I

12:46

don't give a damn what the O-Line

12:48

looks like right now. We'll get it

12:50

better. I don't give a damn who

12:52

I have a receiver. I don't give

12:54

a damn who the coach is. The

12:56

fact that you have me in the

12:58

building means you'll have a chance, whether

13:00

it's this year or overtime. You mentioned

13:03

him bouncing around from school to school

13:05

and saying that sometimes you like to

13:07

see players, stick around and develop more.

13:09

One of the things that he did

13:11

and the reason that he bounced around

13:13

is out of loyalty to the coach

13:15

who brought him because he didn't get

13:17

a lot of offers. So he went

13:19

to a carnet work and then his

13:21

head coach goes on to Washington State.

13:23

So he follows his coach to Washington

13:25

State out of loyalty to him. After

13:27

he had some successful seasons, Lane Kiffin

13:29

was coming. Lane Kiffin was trying to

13:32

get him. And he stayed loyal to

13:34

his coach. He stayed loyal to Washington

13:36

State. His senior year he goes down

13:38

to Miami. No one else gave him

13:40

the opportunities. Yeah, and on top of

13:42

that, it is not disconnected that his

13:44

coach from Apron and World goes to

13:46

this Washington State. That that gets that

13:48

opportunity at the coach. Because you have

13:50

a player. Like Cam Ward, like you

13:52

were just saying. Who gives you all

13:54

that success? And again, now it's like

13:56

I'm riding your coattails as much as

13:58

you're riding mine. So that coach, Eric

14:01

Morris, was also Patrick Mahomes' offensive quarter

14:03

at Texas, or sorry, at Texas Tech.

14:05

So a good guy, a good guy,

14:07

to be following around. There are comps

14:09

there between Cam Ward and Patrick Mahomes,

14:11

as some people have said, not saying

14:13

that he's going to be Patrick Mahomes,

14:15

but saying that he makes the most

14:17

out of certain opportunities the same way

14:19

that Patrick Mahomes, the same way that

14:21

Patrick Mahomes, the same way that Patrick

14:23

Mahomes, the same way that Patrick Mahomes

14:25

does, the same way that Patrick Mahomes

14:27

does, The off kilter stuff, the play

14:30

breakdown, run around, scramble, make a play,

14:32

shovel it to your tight end who

14:34

was supposed to be blocking the whole

14:36

time anyway. It's crazy that that is

14:38

like the standard now. Now we want

14:40

you to be so off-script that we

14:42

can pay you to patch with my

14:44

homes. The thing I like about Camp

14:46

Ward, even with those off-scripts, and he

14:48

can get off-scripts, a little one necessarily

14:50

at times. He does leave the pocket,

14:52

probably a little too early at times.

14:54

But I never feel like he's doing

14:57

it just because. I'll be honest with

14:59

Kayla Williams, there's been so many moments

15:01

and obviously High Sight is 2020 now

15:03

that we have his rookie season to

15:05

compare it to. But coming out of

15:07

the draft, I had Jaded Daniels over

15:09

him for that reason because it felt

15:11

sometimes that he was doing it because

15:13

he had a knack for the, you

15:15

know, the flare of it all. And

15:17

I don't want that in my quarterback.

15:19

Like, you can make the wrong decision.

15:21

As long as in the moment you

15:23

felt like this is what needed to

15:26

happen, I don't always feel that way

15:28

with Caleb Williams when I look at

15:30

his college film. All right guys, the

15:32

pick is in, it hasn't been announced

15:34

yet, and before we get the official

15:36

announcement, I want to ask both of

15:38

you, bold prediction for tonight. What do

15:40

you guys think? What's something crazy that

15:42

could happen tonight in the draft? Billy,

15:44

you go first. I

15:46

think my bold prediction is

15:49

going to be that Camward

15:51

will be the number one

15:53

ticket. I like that. There's

15:55

a lot of people out

15:58

here, some hub of people

16:00

saying maybe he won't be.

16:02

Pretty sure it's a fish.

16:04

A lot of people have

16:06

been saying it Billy. People

16:09

have been saying it, you

16:11

know. I like Billy, I'm

16:13

hearing different things. People like

16:15

the same thing. Sometimes got

16:17

to go on a limb.

16:20

I mean, we'll see if

16:22

Billy's right before I give

16:24

my bold prediction. Yeah. Here

16:26

we go. There's

16:31

smoke shooting out of the ceiling here

16:33

in Tennessee. They didn't go as crazy

16:36

in here as I thought they would

16:38

be. There's a, yeah. People don't seem

16:40

as excited about this big. It seems

16:42

like that. Yeah. Doesn't seem like they

16:44

think they found their franchise quarterback. How

16:47

do you feel about that by the

16:49

way? People comparing him to last year's

16:51

quarterback trap. Oh, we have breaking news.

16:53

We're on the clock. The Browns have

16:55

traded their pick to the Jacksonville Jaguars.

16:57

The Jacksonville Jaguars are picking at number

17:00

two. Are they taking the same guy

17:02

we thought the Browns were taking? Are

17:04

they taking Travis Hunter? They do need

17:06

a wide receiver. They do. They also

17:08

need a defensive lineman. They need a

17:11

quarterback. Sorry. Hot take. They need an

17:13

every tie in. The Jacksonville Jaguars need

17:15

a little bit of literally everything. But

17:17

there's somebody I feel like it's got

17:19

to be I've got to be Travis

17:21

on her I mean it'd be crazy

17:24

to trade up all the way to

17:26

two from five Not to take the

17:28

guy that was going to go at

17:30

two or three. Yeah, I mean, maybe

17:32

it's that dual harder It's got to

17:34

be one of those two. I mean,

17:37

we assume the Giants are going to

17:39

take out dual Carter, so if they

17:41

trade up, maybe they're trying to get

17:43

him. I don't know. Kind of rude

17:45

of them, by the way, to not

17:48

let Camward have his moment. Yeah, because

17:50

we already transition. We can't even see

17:52

him celebrate this situation. Everybody's on to

17:54

talk about the Jaguars. Also, I don't

17:56

know why it was weird for me

17:58

to hear Roger Caddo call on camera.

18:01

Yeah, I don't know about that either

18:03

obviously his full name is Cameron. I

18:05

don't know what I expected maybe Cambria

18:07

You know what a little bit of

18:09

a pet peeve Roger Godell You're going

18:11

to be announcing these players names. Maybe

18:14

learn a few of them I always

18:16

hate when he comes up and he's

18:18

got to announce somebody's name and he

18:20

totally butchers it. Does he do that

18:22

a lot? Oh, he's done it a

18:25

bunch of times. He could also just

18:27

have like an earpiece in where someone's

18:29

at the table right before, they just

18:31

say, hey, Raj. This is how you

18:33

say it. At the draft, before you

18:35

go on, they literally give you the

18:38

card, it's spelled phonetically, so you can

18:40

like, they'll tell you right before you

18:42

go on stage, as someone who announced

18:44

the traffic, humblebragued. I don't know how

18:46

he's doing the league right now, but

18:48

that's aside, but it's they tell you

18:51

hot the pronunciation right before you who'd

18:53

you announce? Oh, that's a good question.

18:55

Okay, Alex right, very good. Defensive end,

18:57

Cleveland rounds, 2022 draft. Did you guys-

18:59

Did you guys- Did you give you

19:02

a hard one? They gave you Alex

19:04

Wright? Yeah. Did you guys know that

19:06

uh, the Camp Ward played the drums

19:08

in his church band with his mom

19:10

who played the piano? Ooh, I like

19:12

that. Did you know that Camp Ward's

19:15

father is a fuel buyer for a

19:17

nuclear power plant? Wow. Which may explain

19:19

his freakish athletic ability. Yeah, he's a

19:21

part of the Marvel universe. It might

19:23

be. Finally, I've been waiting for Marvel

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the Smearnoff viewer, the Peña Picante? Ooh!

19:41

Yeah. That sounds spicy. It does sound

19:43

spicy. I've had enough spicy food being

19:45

here. I have played at Saipak, okay.

19:47

When you go to different cities around,

19:49

you know, the country, the world, whatever,

19:52

do you try to, their local delicacies,

19:54

do you go with comfort food, do

19:56

you go with what you like? What

19:58

is your strategy on food? Yeah, I

20:00

do my own thing, man. I stick

20:03

to the basics. Luckily, I had... palate

20:05

of a nine-year-old so I'll get down

20:07

with chicken tenders and also Nashville hot

20:09

I eat that around the country so

20:11

okay I'm glad you brought that up

20:13

because that's kind of the situation that

20:16

I'm in is that I have been

20:18

sick I have gastrodoritis we went out

20:20

and they're like you need to have

20:22

Nashville hot like wings and I was

20:24

like I I don't know about this

20:26

because I'm not doing well so last

20:29

night when everybody went out I had

20:31

that I got a grilled cheese

20:33

and was mocked by everyone because

20:35

of the trade details Okay, so

20:38

the Jaguars receive a 2025 second

20:40

overall pick, the 2025 fourth round

20:42

pick, the 2025 six round pick,

20:44

the Browns receive the fifth overall

20:46

pick, the 2025 second and fourth

20:48

round picks, the 2026 first round

20:51

pick. Wow, they got a two

20:53

and a one. That's a whole.

20:55

That's a whole. To move back

20:57

three spots, you're still gonna get

20:59

a fantastic player. And the Browns

21:01

moved up in the fourth. Wow,

21:05

they got a fifth for six And they

21:07

got a two an extra two to move

21:09

back three spots Do they have good job

21:12

Andrew Barry you think we're gonna see a

21:14

lot of movement tonight? So coming up to

21:16

today It was slow, but it would kind

21:18

of felt like the calm before the storm

21:21

and here we are the number two big

21:23

and we already have movement So it was

21:25

it was a big deal that coming into

21:27

today. This was the first time ever that

21:30

every team owned their number one pick

21:32

in the draft Nobody had traded

21:34

it. Nobody had traded it. There

21:36

was no leftovers from last year.

21:38

Like, already, next year, that's out

21:40

the window. Right. Because now the

21:42

Browns don't have a first round

21:44

pick. With Cam off the board.

21:46

With Cam off the board. With

21:48

Cam off the board. Shador. Shador

21:50

is the next best quarterback. We

21:52

then, there's back and forth. Shador,

21:54

we thought, might be going number

21:56

three to the giant. They've moved

21:58

away from that. Right now, Travis Hunter

22:01

and his mom are trying to act

22:03

like he's not picked. Yeah, Travis Hunter,

22:05

spoiler is going to the Jaguars. Yeah,

22:07

I knew it. Wow. I mean, it's

22:09

a new regime. He's trying not to

22:11

tip the pick. I don't like that.

22:13

Celebrate. I mean, we're going to see

22:15

him get up in a second and

22:17

what do we pretend he's going to

22:19

go to the bathroom. He had the

22:21

biggest smile on his face two seconds

22:23

ago and as soon as a red

22:26

light was on on on on on

22:28

the camera. We pretended not to see

22:30

it not to see it. The Jaguar's

22:32

front office is celebrating. Travis Hunter on

22:34

the Big Straight behind him for sure.

22:37

If you're a Jaguars fan, you

22:39

have to love this, right? You

22:41

have a new team, you have

22:43

a new coach, and now you

22:45

have the making the biggest move

22:47

of the draft so far tonight.

22:49

Last year's draft, the biggest thing

22:51

that we saw in the first

22:53

round that wasn't predictable was Michael

22:55

Pennix. Yes. Going. This, I think,

22:57

is gonna be one of the

22:59

stories of the draft today. I

23:01

don't feel like it's such a

23:03

big deal. I'm trying to get

23:05

a new team. smart and they

23:07

need quarterback and receiver help. I

23:09

think that's why they care so

23:11

much is because I don't think

23:13

Travis Hunter plays both ways at

23:15

a lot of organizations. The Jaguars

23:17

needs so much that he will

23:19

probably get rest both ways there.

23:21

Well so that's what we were

23:23

talking about before the show is

23:25

I was asking so if if

23:27

the Browns do take Travis Hunter

23:29

how much quarterback do you think

23:31

he's gonna actually play? And now

23:33

we know, he's not going to

23:36

play any quarter, he's not going

23:38

to play the Browns. Or any

23:40

receiver. I never felt like a

23:42

Browns, but truly going to make

23:44

that move at wide out for

23:46

Travis Hunter. But here's the biggest

23:48

issue with Travis Hunter playing both

23:50

ways. Throughout the season, throughout the

23:52

off season, any given day, you're

23:54

on the field practicing for give

23:56

or take two hours a day,

23:58

okay? The days are roughly nine

24:00

to 10 hours long. So for

24:02

eight hours you are in meetings.

24:04

or lifting with your unit. Typically

24:06

in the morning when the offense

24:08

lists, the defense meets, and then

24:10

the defense goes and meets, and

24:12

then the offense lists at the

24:14

same time. So just by the

24:16

24 hours in a day, it's

24:18

gonna be hard for Travis Hunter

24:20

to be in those meetings. If

24:22

he is predominantly gonna be a

24:24

cornerback, it's gonna be hard for

24:26

him to truly take on wide

24:28

receiver in a way. where he's

24:30

getting like the brunt of the

24:32

offense of snaps. Just by virtue

24:34

of there's not enough meeting time

24:36

and a day for him to

24:38

get prepared for both on a

24:40

week-a-week basis. Can I throw out

24:42

a bold prediction? Yes. Another one.

24:44

Okay, so the Browns have traded

24:46

down to number five to the

24:48

Jaguars, obviously. Could this be an

24:50

indication that they liked Shador and

24:52

they think that Shador will still

24:54

be there at five because they

24:56

know the Giants were not really

24:58

feeling Shador. They felt safe enough

25:00

to go get their quarterback back

25:02

and get their quarterback and get

25:04

assets. Maybe, but that would still

25:06

even be high for Chador from

25:08

what I've been hearing. I mean...

25:10

What if we trade down a

25:13

second time in collecting more assets?

25:15

The brown double trading down has

25:17

a history of story. He's done

25:19

that multiple drafts. Do the browns

25:21

now take Ashton Gente at five

25:23

like we thought the Jaguars might?

25:25

I don't hate that idea. I

25:27

mean, I don't hate that idea.

25:29

They're gonna have to run the

25:31

ball. Travis Hunter does not take

25:33

the NFL serious. No. Is that

25:35

a bold prediction? This feels like

25:37

he just, he needs to transfer

25:39

for it. Are you saying he

25:41

doesn't love football? No, he loves

25:43

football. Because that's a hot topic

25:45

right now. We'll get into that

25:47

later. I think I love Travis

25:49

Hunter. He's easy to love. Yeah,

25:51

he's easy to love. Travis Hunter's

25:53

energy is what I wish in

25:55

my deep dark dreams that I

25:57

had. of energy and happiness and

25:59

joy in the world. But instead,

26:01

I'm just as jaded for the

26:03

eight-year-old man. He is a very

26:05

optimistic kid. Yeah. He just seems

26:07

like he attacks life with such

26:09

a level of optimism that life

26:12

is going to suck at you

26:14

at one point, kid. Enjoy it,

26:16

though. That's a good, I'm glad.

26:18

This took a very sad day.

26:20

It's like, man. Kind of bum.

26:22

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27:44

do you have any draft rates

27:46

so far we have the predictable

27:48

number one and number two picks

27:50

just not to the team that

27:52

we thought they were going to

27:54

is that is that kind of

27:56

a tight's an a tight's have

27:58

an a so far oh yeah

28:00

let me go the jaguars have

28:02

an a so far? It'd be

28:04

bad if but too fixed we

28:07

had a C or something. All

28:09

right, let's, let's, should we do,

28:11

should we do Cam Ward, how

28:13

they should feel, or should we

28:15

just skip that one? Because we

28:17

knew it all. I think we

28:19

could, we could do it. All

28:21

right, if you're a Jaguars fan,

28:23

you should feel kind of met.

28:25

And here's why. You put a

28:27

lot of eggs in that basket.

28:29

You gave up your first and

28:31

second round pick. This year and

28:33

you gave up your first round

28:35

pick next year and you're putting

28:37

a lot into one player when

28:39

you had a lot of issues

28:41

on that team. Wait, they gave

28:43

up a first round pick for

28:45

next year? Next year. The Jaguars

28:47

traded a one, two, and four

28:49

this year and a one next

28:51

year. Yeah, but you got a

28:53

receiver at a corner. So you

28:55

basically traded for two players. Well,

28:57

according to Hawk, you might not

28:59

have both. You have a little

29:01

bit of one and a lot

29:03

of another. You're going to get

29:05

65% of them on both ends.

29:07

You're going to get the second

29:09

round version of them as a

29:11

corner and a second round version

29:13

of them as a receiver if

29:15

you don't have a real plan.

29:17

Like it's just not on the

29:19

surface. Oh, he can play both

29:21

ways. But I do it. I

29:23

trust the Jaguars to have a

29:25

plan. That's good. You trust Tony

29:28

Bicelli? You know what, this is

29:30

actually a huge move for Tony

29:32

Bicelli. He hired the guy that

29:34

made this deal. Guy makes the

29:36

Hall of Fame all of a

29:38

sudden balls just starts making all

29:40

these crazy moves. Tony Bicelli juked

29:42

my brother out in the NFL

29:44

game. Really? Or he tackled my

29:46

brother in the open field. That's

29:48

what it was. My brother scooped

29:50

the fumble that he should have

29:52

took for a touchdown. One-on-one with

29:54

Tony Bicelli and Tony just corrout

29:56

I'm in the open field. Most

29:58

impressive thing I've seen if I'm

30:00

in office in London lining. That's

30:02

just impressive. Any talk about the

30:04

New York Giants possibly trading out

30:06

is now squashed. They have made...

30:08

their picks, the New York Giants

30:10

has made a pick at three.

30:12

We're assuming it's have dual Carter

30:14

here. Bold prediction, have dual Carter.

30:16

You guys are missing the meaning

30:18

of the term bold. Really? Really?

30:20

Yeah. I mean I'll tell you

30:22

this in our AI USA Today

30:24

AI mock drafts. Are we spot

30:26

on right now? No Microsoft co-pilot

30:28

had a dual Carter going second.

30:30

Meta AI had a dual Carter

30:32

going second. Scrock and ChatGBT so

30:34

far have been undefeated. What does

30:36

this mean for AI? I don't

30:38

know. I think we're gonna settle

30:40

right now, which AI is the

30:42

best. We're gonna settle it tonight

30:44

by how close they were in

30:46

their mock. Can I give you

30:48

a spoiler alert? Because I'm not

30:51

sure we're gonna get this far.

30:53

Just a preview of how AI

30:55

does things. ChatGPT, you know who

30:57

they had at the 21st pick

30:59

in the draft. Camp Ward, Jaylin

31:01

Billrow. Ooh. I have not seen

31:03

Jaylin Merrill be a first round

31:05

pick anywhere. I wouldn't, I wouldn't

31:07

have him as a first round

31:09

pick, but I do believe there

31:11

will be teams that get enamored

31:13

with his physical traits. And it's

31:15

not crazy to see teams reach

31:17

for quarterbacks. The most important positions

31:19

in all of professional sports. Stone

31:23

man out there. All right, the

31:25

Giants pick is it. The Giants

31:27

pick is it. It's Abdul Carter.

31:29

Not surprising? Oh. A little bit,

31:31

um, superfluous, considering they have Kevin

31:34

Thibodeau and Brian Burns already playing

31:36

that edge rush spot, but I

31:38

mean, Abdul Carter, is he just

31:40

a talent you can't pass up?

31:42

Yeah, I mean, especially when you're

31:44

in a conference with Jaylon Hertz.

31:46

Jayden Daniels and say what you

31:49

want about Dag Prescott. Those are

31:51

three really good quarterbacks. So for

31:53

an organization that is not positioned

31:55

to have one of those guys.

31:57

You better have a damn good

31:59

unit who can get after those

32:02

guys, adding add a dual carter

32:04

to that unit you talked about,

32:06

helps them. Raised their profile a

32:08

little bit in that division. It's

32:10

also a great pick for him

32:12

to fall to the giant section

32:14

at number three because a month

32:17

and a half ago People were

32:19

saying this most talented guy in

32:21

the draft. This could be the

32:23

number one big and then all

32:25

of a sudden he shows up

32:27

the confine medical test show that

32:30

he has an issue And then

32:32

it becomes a question of, well,

32:34

does he need to have surgery?

32:36

They said no, he's fine and

32:38

here he goes number three no

32:40

surgery needed? He can play both

32:42

ways. And he can play a

32:44

little quarterback. He can throw the

32:47

ball? Is this as good as

32:49

anybody they have? Is this a

32:51

make a break season for Brian

32:53

Dable? That's the tough part, right?

32:55

Because I think Brian Dable is

32:57

in that situation, like, you know,

32:59

you almost want to reset. You

33:01

know like if he doesn't they're

33:03

basically going to line it up

33:05

to where his ousting is going

33:07

to be the next person who

33:09

comes in with the quarterball What

33:11

does he have to do this

33:13

year to keep his job? Well

33:15

here's the thing play off so

33:17

see that's you're you're a what

33:19

a three or four win team

33:21

to have a playoff mandate like

33:24

you might as well have just

33:26

gotten it over with and got

33:28

rid of him if you're telling

33:30

me as an owner. third overall pick

33:32

to playoffs or you're fired you might

33:34

as well just firing yeah I mean

33:36

that sounds like indecision and that's the

33:38

last thing you want from the head

33:40

of an organization died to Joe Shane

33:42

or can this be a situation where

33:44

they get rid of Joe Shane and

33:46

then Dayball survives at least for a

33:49

season because right now you have a

33:51

situation in Russell Wilson you're starting quarterback

33:53

James Winston is your backup neither one

33:55

of them as fun as James Winston

33:57

might be are going to be the

33:59

quarterback that is your quarterback in the

34:02

future. But also you see here with

34:04

the number three big. They elected not

34:06

to go after quarterback, but they already

34:08

have quarterback depth, so I don't really

34:10

need one. But if your job is

34:13

on the line and that's what you

34:15

need, you can reach and get one.

34:17

They're not really giving Dayball anything to

34:19

work with here in terms of having

34:22

an incredible increase from three wins to

34:24

playoffs this year. On paper, are the

34:26

Giants better today? Like, I mean, I

34:28

know Abdul Carter is that good, but

34:31

like, he's gonna be replacing guys that

34:33

are already that good in the rotation.

34:35

Like you're gonna go from Brian Burns

34:37

to have dual partner and it's like,

34:39

okay, we can still do what we

34:42

already could do. We can just do

34:44

it more. Yeah, but I mean imagine

34:46

life without it though. I mean, that's,

34:48

that's, and if you don't tell great

34:51

about the quarterbacks in that situation, again,

34:53

you don't reach for it and I'm

34:55

sure the organization is already aligned on

34:57

that like, like, okay, we don't feel

35:00

great about the quarterback options outside of

35:02

Camp Ward. The case for Brian Debo,

35:04

if I'm an agent, and they go

35:06

into this season, they don't have success,

35:09

and they only end up with three,

35:11

four, five wins, it's, oh, well we

35:13

had Russell Wilson and James Wensley. Like

35:15

that's what my argument is going to

35:17

be, to organization, to ownership, to the

35:20

media, like what could you really expect?

35:22

It's gonna be hard to argue that,

35:24

so I feel like that's where he's

35:26

going to kind of hit you. And

35:29

then if you have success. It points

35:31

to what, I'm a great head coach.

35:33

Look what I was able to do

35:35

with Russell Wilson and James Winston. You

35:38

gave me Daniel Jones, Russell Wilson and

35:40

James Winston. That's it. And then you

35:42

expect playoffs. Give me a real quarterback

35:44

and watch what I do and that

35:47

will buy him the time that he

35:49

needs. So he's not in a terrible

35:51

position. And it's just that I think

35:53

the things around Brian Dayball for me,

35:55

it's more of locker room stuff that

35:58

you heard or you saw when things

36:00

went bad and that's typically a symptom

36:02

of. Again, a coach that doesn't have

36:04

a great feel. before his locker. So

36:07

I am consulting with my A. I

36:09

mock drafts and I told you before

36:11

the chat GBT had Jay Lenoro at

36:13

21 because I had that highlighted. I

36:16

buried the lead. I forgot to tell

36:18

you that Brock had Jay Leniro at

36:20

the number six pick in the NFL

36:22

draft. They had Chidoor Sanders going third.

36:25

That didn't have it. And they have

36:27

Abdul Carter falling to 15. So right

36:29

now I would say that Grorock is

36:31

having the roug the roughest night. What

36:33

is A. What are they doing? Listen

36:36

man, you're the one that knows about

36:38

this stuff. Not being with your virtual

36:40

reality and your video games. It's like

36:42

it's it's feeding its model with mock

36:45

drafts from From genpop. That's the issue.

36:47

Like it's it's got to get down

36:49

to the experts because no expert has

36:51

Abdul Carter going 15. Well, not only

36:54

that it's also feeding from history and

36:56

if you look at recent history we

36:58

saw what six quarterbacks go five quarterbacks

37:00

go in the top 12 picks last

37:03

year and it's going oh so quarterback

37:05

must be the thing which it is

37:07

but there has to be a certain

37:09

level of talent yeah So

37:12

we are now in a commercial

37:15

break on television. The Patriots pick

37:17

is in. When they come back,

37:20

we are expecting, based on sources,

37:22

that they will be taking Will

37:24

Campbell. I'm gonna tell you right

37:27

now, this is gonna start a

37:29

run of offensive one. You think

37:31

it starts now? I think it's

37:34

gonna start right now. I think

37:36

we're gonna see three in the

37:38

next four picks. Maybe four in

37:41

the next four. Is that your

37:43

bold prediction for the day? No,

37:45

that is not my bold prediction.

37:48

Because that wouldn't be bold. So

37:50

who goes next? Calvin Banks to

37:52

the to the Browns? Um, how

37:55

about Membo? How about Membo? How

37:57

about on? I don't mind Membo.

38:00

You like Membo better than

38:03

you like Banks, huh? I

38:05

think, I do. I think

38:07

Banks is a fast riser,

38:09

mostly because I think the

38:11

Raiders love him, which is

38:13

why I think he's gonna

38:15

go six. I'm so curious

38:17

and who the Browns are

38:19

gonna go with. I think

38:21

it is either receiver or...

38:23

Tet McMillen? Ashton Genti? I

38:29

mean they need a wide receiver, they need a tackle, they

38:31

need a quarterback. I think the Browns won arch Manning. Just

38:33

getting an extra first round pick next year. Keep trading down

38:35

to next year. But here's the problem. Manings don't come out

38:38

early. Manning stay in school. Manning stay in school. He's also

38:40

making so much money in school. Yeah, that too. But it'll

38:42

be what his. Third year this year? Yeah, it would be

38:44

his first year as a starter. He would be coming out

38:46

next year early if he came out. But after one year

38:48

of starting. Yeah. He had some games that he did kind

38:50

of like mop-up duty, but he did pretty good. No, he

38:53

started a few games because he was got hurt. Yeah. He

38:55

played pretty good. The thing about the Manning that I love

38:57

is that, I mean, they don't give a damn about. the

38:59

transfer port like they're like you know you're gonna just develop

39:01

you'll play one year and you will be a top five

39:03

pick because we've kind of done a lot of that work

39:06

for you you don't have to say oh I need to

39:08

see him more listen hawk one of my favorite you'll learn

39:10

this in a few picks I am a big Jets fan

39:12

okay and one of the worst stories as a Jet fan

39:14

is that Peyton Manning was finished his junior year and the

39:16

Jets had the number one overall pick And Peyton Manning, the

39:19

story goes, Peyton Manning called Drew Bledsoe and said, what's it

39:21

like playing quarterback for Bill Parcel, who was the coach of

39:23

the Jets at the time. And after that

39:25

conversation was over Peyton Manning

39:27

was going I'm going back to

39:29

school He would rather go

39:31

back to school and I think

39:34

about what could have been

39:36

yeah I mean think of how

39:38

we could have possibly ruined

39:40

Peyton Manning as a jet We

39:42

could have ruined him. It

39:44

would have been so fun. We

39:47

could have turned Peyton Manning

39:49

into Ryan Lee Which would have

39:51

been amazing for your organization.

39:53

I was gonna ask you this

39:55

with the Jaguars and Travis

39:57

Hunter Do you believe that there

39:59

there are franchises that will

40:02

just simply ruin a player Where

40:04

you see a player like

40:06

oh man, I really wish my

40:08

team would get this player

40:10

But if they end up on

40:12

my team, they would not

40:15

be the player Here's one that

40:17

I always wanted to happen,

40:19

but I was glad that wasn't

40:21

so down here Miami Dolphins

40:23

fan I wanted the dolphin to

40:25

draft T. Y. Hilton. He

40:28

was on the board. I'm like,

40:30

oh T. Y. Hilton the

40:32

Dolphins would be sick However, if

40:34

he was down there with

40:36

whoever the quarterback was at the

40:38

time He's not there with

40:40

Andrew Luck who was drafted the

40:43

same year as him and

40:45

probably would not have been T.

40:47

Y. Hilton Yeah, I don't

40:49

think you're wrong But I do

40:51

think I think ruin my

40:53

life say it off that like

40:56

still will be there Okay,

40:58

T. Y. Hilton is one of

41:00

those guys. Okay, like I

41:02

played against or coached against T.

41:04

Y. Hilton as a receiver

41:06

coach for Toledo And I was

41:08

like, holy hell wait were

41:11

you the coach when FIU played

41:13

the Rockets? Is it the

41:15

whole game 2008 little Caesar's pizza

41:17

bowl hot and ready? I

41:19

think that was after he was

41:21

a young player Okay, whenever

41:24

I think they played him twice

41:26

The home in a way

41:28

like a three or four year

41:30

period Yeah, and he was

41:32

just taking bubble screens yard

41:35

You know 60 yards out

41:37

to the crib, you know

41:39

the story of how he

41:42

ended up at FIU Oh,

41:44

so he I think was

41:46

down to FIU West Virginia

41:48

Maybe like one other school

41:50

and what he did was

41:52

or Louisville I think also

41:55

what he did was he

41:57

put his kid on a

41:59

bed and we've ever had

42:01

the kid crawl towards the

42:03

school That he ended up

42:06

going to that's right. So

42:08

that's how T. Y. Hilton

42:10

ended up at FIU. Is

42:12

he a South Florida native?

42:14

Yeah Yeah, he's from down there. What part? I

42:17

don't know, man. Come on, you gotta know. I can

42:19

talk about a dual card. Travis, Y. Hilton's house, like,

42:21

what are you on? Travis hunters from Boynton Beach. He

42:23

reps Georgia, but he lived in Boynton Beach and played

42:25

football there until he was like 14. Which is from

42:27

Miami Springs. Yeah, got it. Hey, Will Campbell to the

42:30

Patriots. Will Campbell. They got themselves

42:32

a left tackle. That's a very

42:34

Patriot's light pick. The Browns are

42:36

on the clock now. Things are

42:38

about to get fun. I know

42:40

I'm getting excited. I think we

42:42

got a couple of Browns fans

42:45

in here. I saw them walk

42:47

by. Any Browns fans in here?

42:49

Jim Brown jerseys. They're standing literally

42:51

in the front of the bar.

42:53

There's one Browns fan. How are

42:56

you? So because our first offensive

42:58

lineman was taking I have Taylor's

43:00

ex-rumate the finance guys Rating of Will

43:02

Campbell if you would like it. Yeah,

43:04

does he have him rated first? Okay,

43:06

so he hasn't graded as the number

43:09

one offensive lineman out there So he

43:11

was right about that. This is Ian

43:13

of course Ian says there's a lot

43:15

to talk about his arm this arm

43:17

like that You know who else had

43:19

short arm length? It was the most

43:22

feared animal to ever walk the entire

43:24

earth the T Rex well T Rex

43:26

Campbell prove all the doubters of our

43:28

million computers wrong and will be a

43:30

perennial pro board throughout his career. You

43:32

can't teach heart and love of the

43:34

game of football. Campbell is the exact

43:37

guy you want protecting your QB for

43:39

years to come. This is the worst

43:41

overall guy. A. A. A. Okay, I

43:43

don't think he's wrong. T. Rex Campbell.

43:45

to see your ex-scamble. I don't hate

43:47

that. I like where his head went,

43:49

I like how he got there. My

43:51

good friend Joe Thomas, who was pretty

43:53

good at playing off at the tackle,

43:55

he told me... You dropped this name

43:57

real quick, here you go. Thank you.

43:59

We don't have to look at the Leroy's

44:02

sound bite here, but that would have been

44:04

a good moment for it. But he also

44:06

talked about the fact that Will Campbell had

44:08

short arms, and he said it doesn't matter,

44:11

because the way that they measure office of

44:13

Lyman arms is like from the shoulder blade

44:15

to the middle finger, and he's like, well,

44:17

what if you just have a really long

44:19

middle finger, which happens? And like a long

44:22

arm to a short arm is like the

44:24

difference of an inch or an inch and

44:26

a half. Deepens of Lyme and with your

44:28

arms you block them with your feet

44:31

your arms just leverage them and I

44:33

said look man I don't know what

44:35

the hell you're talking about but I

44:37

believe you because You're a lot better

44:39

at playing opposite tackle than I am

44:42

at pretty much anything else in my

44:44

life Yeah, I mean do we think

44:46

Are the Patriots in win now mode

44:48

considering all the money they spent now

44:51

they have their quarterback on the on

44:53

the rookie contract? They got him now

44:55

left side protector protector What does win

44:57

now mode mean? As opposed to one?

45:00

You got win now. Yeah. But

45:02

I mean like, how long have

45:04

the pages been losing now? In

45:06

the organization, they're win now. As

45:08

a fan, as as football analysts.

45:10

You know, me and you, total

45:13

football analysts. Yeah. Do we think

45:15

they can win now? I think

45:17

they can. I think the movies

45:19

that they've made is less about

45:21

the organization saying, all right, now's

45:23

the time. I don't think Mike

45:25

Brable knows anything other than when

45:28

now. I think like he's the

45:30

kind of person who is, you know,

45:32

stick to his own convictions. Again, we're

45:34

down here in Tennessee, they know bad

45:36

than anyone. I'm such a huge Mike

45:39

Brable fan. And I think the moves

45:41

that they've made is less about the

45:43

organization saying, all right, now's the time,

45:46

and more about Brable being like. This

45:48

is what the hell we need. Otherwise,

45:50

I'm not taking this job. Would you

45:52

like some fun Will Campbell facts? Yes,

45:55

please. So Will Campbell's father is known

45:57

as Bull, so his father is Bull

45:59

Campbell. Emily owns a

46:01

sporting goods store. Will Campbell's birth

46:04

certificate was requested on multiple occasions

46:06

when he was playing as an

46:08

eight-year-old because they did not believe

46:10

how old he was. Valley. And

46:13

he was a big hunter growing

46:15

up and he took down his

46:17

first year at five years old.

46:20

Oh, wow. Where's he from? He

46:22

is from. Brownger. Brown's around Louisiana.

46:24

The browns are making their pick.

46:26

We have no ideas. A line.

46:29

Mason Graham. I love Mason

46:31

Graham. He's one of my

46:33

favorite players in the draft.

46:35

I still think this is

46:37

a surprise pick. Mason Graham.

46:40

All right, let me pull

46:42

on Mason Graham, Scott, and

46:44

before you. I think Mason

46:46

Graham is, his floor is

46:48

a starter, a good starter.

46:50

Which, I mean, if that's

46:52

what you're drafting, fifth overall,

46:55

that's pretty good. In Mel

46:57

Kiper and Field Jades Montdraft

46:59

from last week, they had Mason

47:01

Graham going number five. Really? The number

47:03

eight pick now owned by the Carolina

47:06

Panthers is being shocked. It's being, yeah,

47:08

they don't own the pay, but... I

47:10

feel like this Mason Graham pick is

47:13

a like... It's a little bit of

47:15

a head scratch, considering where he's going,

47:17

but at the same time, I mean,

47:20

that's... it's a good player. He's the

47:22

kind of guy that might be able

47:24

to feast in the inside with Miles

47:27

Garrett. Yeah, I mean, that's why I

47:29

like it because it is like, I

47:31

don't know, they were standing Abdul Carter

47:33

in the face and obviously they're like,

47:36

hey, we have just paid the best

47:38

Ed Russia in the NFL the most

47:40

money ever, so let's get him some

47:42

more help inside. Mason Graham, very versatile,

47:45

so we can play a little bit

47:47

on the edge if necessary as well.

47:49

I don't know, it's just interesting. I

47:51

didn't expect them to go to defense

47:53

of Lyme in here. The interesting question

47:56

is, who's throwing the ball, who's catching

47:58

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49:28

the Raiders did not waste much

49:30

time. No, their pick is already

49:32

in. Their pick is already in.

49:34

And most mock drafts had this

49:36

as right in Magic Marker from

49:38

the moment it goes. And then

49:40

everybody's like, whoa, wait a minute,

49:43

maybe not. Maybe they like Calvin

49:45

bags. Nope. They went and they

49:47

took Ashton Gente. Everybody knows Pete

49:49

Carroll loves to run the ball.

49:51

And Ashton Gente is... See, this

49:53

is one of my problems with

49:55

what we do during lying season

49:57

with all the mock drafts and

49:59

stuff. Some analysts

50:01

say Ashton Gente's ceiling is Walter

50:04

Payton and his floor is Lydanian

50:06

Tomlinson. And I'm like, what kind

50:08

of pressure is that to put

50:10

on somebody that his floor is

50:13

a first ballot gold jacket? Please

50:15

name that. Oh no, it was,

50:17

uh, I can't find it. Just

50:19

make up a name, it's one.

50:22

It was, it was Billy Gil.

50:24

It was, Billy Gil. Flour is

50:26

Lydanian Tomlinson. That's a real quote.

50:28

That is a real quote. I

50:31

need to know who that is.

50:33

I'm going to find it. Ashton

50:35

Gente owns a poodle named Coco.

50:37

So that's his dog, Coco. Just

50:39

a fun fact. I like that.

50:42

Coco's a good name. Yeah, it's

50:44

a good name. It's a good

50:46

name. It's a good name. Sealing

50:48

sweetness. The floor, Lydadian Thomason. I

50:52

mean, okay, this is, that's a meme

50:54

account, no? I don't know, it might

50:56

be. Did you just get anything else

50:59

in town? I could have, but I

51:01

saw it and I got upset. And

51:03

then, and then I saw a bunch

51:05

of people like. killing it like they

51:07

should. That makes me feel a little

51:10

bit better about that. Tell you who's

51:12

not happy about this? My guy Rahim

51:14

Moster who went to Raiders, not a

51:16

good day for him so far. No,

51:18

he's, no, Rahim's, so, how old is

51:21

Rahim Moster? He was my guy. He's

51:23

like 33, 32. So me and Rahim

51:25

played together. Yeah, I haven't played the

51:27

NFL for like seven years. Yeah. He

51:29

was a practice squad running back and

51:32

he fumbledbled every time he touched the

51:34

ball. And I'm like, oh man, this

51:36

guy's never gonna make it. It's a

51:38

rough night. I hope this is taking

51:40

a nice turn for him because so

51:43

far it's been a rough night and

51:45

I was just craving on it. Well,

51:47

the good thing about Rahim Moster is

51:49

he like stands the test of time,

51:51

which you don't typically see from running

51:54

backs that are like him, which are

51:56

built for speed. So I actually think

51:58

it was probably a little much to

52:00

expect that Rahimostier was going to take

52:02

on the run of the run of

52:05

the run of the run of the

52:07

run of the run of the run

52:09

of the carries for the carries for

52:11

the run of the carries for the

52:13

run of the carries for the run

52:16

of the run of the run of

52:18

the carries for the carries for the

52:20

run of the run of the carries

52:22

for the run of the carries for

52:24

the run of the run of the

52:27

run of the run of the carries

52:29

for the carries for the run of

52:31

the carries for the run of the

52:33

run of the run of the I

52:35

really like specific role that he could

52:38

be really good at, which is the

52:40

change of pace back to the rookie

52:42

that I'm sure the raiders are hoping

52:44

to build around. Hey, Billy, you and

52:46

Hawk were talking earlier about how hot

52:49

it was? Yeah. And I was like,

52:51

no, I'm not that hot. Yeah. Now

52:53

I'm sweating a little bit. Why? Jets

52:55

are on the clock. Yeah. Jets are

52:57

on the clock. And I'm scared. I'm

53:00

scared. I'm scared, man. Are you. Are

53:02

you? I am. This is my Super

53:04

Bowl. We talked about this. This is

53:06

as close as I get to the

53:08

Super Bowl. That's a jet fan. Who

53:11

do I want or who they're gonna

53:13

take? Who do you want? I want

53:15

either Warren or Memboo. That's who I

53:17

want. He also has guys that he

53:19

told us he's gonna walk out. There

53:22

is a few names that if they

53:24

get talked right here, I'm walking out.

53:26

Yeah. How do we before we move

53:28

on too far to the Jets? How

53:30

do we feel about Tom Brady who

53:33

now has his hands on everything? Apparently

53:35

with the Raiders first day. Taking a

53:37

running back. Yeah. A guy who made

53:39

his living with Kevin Falk. They had

53:41

a damn good run game whenever he

53:44

started out. They did, but they didn't

53:46

have a top six running back. Yeah.

53:48

They had a running game. He's a

53:50

special player though. Yeah. You know? He's

53:52

a he's an outlier. So Jarvis Green

53:55

Ellis, the law firm. Yeah. Also what

53:57

I got. Danny Woodhead. My favorite Jarvis

53:59

Green Ellis fun fact is he is

54:01

Birdman's nephew from Cash Money. And like

54:03

the two people who started Cash Money

54:06

Records, Birdman and Slim. He has Slim's

54:08

son. Isn't Little Wayne also his nephew?

54:10

Who's Birdman? Yeah. Um, okay. That's why

54:12

I call him the third man, Jr.

54:14

When Jarvis Green Ellis would face time

54:17

Little Wayne from like practice. Okay. And

54:19

he would answer. And like a brotherly

54:21

way, not like in a let me

54:23

show you how my famous friends. Just

54:25

calling and checking it. And you know

54:28

what I said, Face Time. And that'll

54:30

be Face Time was a thing then

54:32

in 2012. No, I think you made

54:34

that story. Yeah. Yeah, that happened. It

54:36

was definitely a call. Yeah, that's fine.

54:39

It's me giving a shout to Stuttgart.

54:41

So I'm looking up some pros and

54:43

cons on Ashton Gente. Here's a quote.

54:45

Works his tail off in the weight

54:47

room and can squat a small house.

54:49

Just a small one. Okay. Small one.

54:52

Now what do we call a small

54:54

house? A tiny house. Because like, I

54:56

would say less than a thousand square

54:58

feet. No. A tiny home. Like a

55:00

one one. Ooh. Which you probably can't

55:03

squat a tiny home. The pick is

55:05

in for the Jets. Good news for

55:07

some, bad news for others. I'm gonna

55:09

stay. Okay. I'm okay with the pick.

55:11

I think it's a good pick. We're

55:14

good. Okay. Okay. The Jets have selected

55:16

Wright tackle at a Missouri Armin Memboo.

55:18

I'm okay with that. I think I

55:20

think they're definitely going to need to

55:22

run the ball and he solidifies an

55:25

offensive line. I got a little, and

55:27

Hawk you can speak to this, I

55:29

have a little bit of a problem

55:31

with you. This is the third offensive

55:33

tackle the Jets have taken in five

55:36

years in the first round. Why do

55:38

you have a problem with that? Because

55:40

at some point you need to develop

55:42

somebody. At some, so the jet starting

55:44

offensive line is a high priced free

55:47

agent, three first round picks, and a

55:49

top second round pick. I'm all for

55:51

investing in the offensive line, but at

55:53

some point, you need to develop somebody.

55:55

Yeah. You need to, you need to,

55:58

you need to, you're not going to

56:00

have sustained success if you can't have

56:02

a third, fourth, fifth round pick, develop

56:04

into anybody who can. do anything on

56:06

your team. And that's my problem. I

56:09

don't think you're wrong. I think that's

56:11

the just problem. I think that they

56:13

like go all in. Sure. And you

56:15

know, they're trying to hit the easy

56:17

button so many times. And there are

56:20

always so many holes to feel that

56:22

it's always the easiest thing is to

56:24

always say. Go get a tackle. Let

56:26

me reach the Scotty Report on Membo.

56:28

He aligns at right tackle with below

56:31

average size for an opposite tackle in

56:33

the NFL. Super athletic. His movement immediately

56:35

stands out with excellent footwork quickness, body

56:37

control, but average play strength. In the

56:39

run game, he has a powerful punch.

56:42

He lacks his order defenders and forces

56:44

at the point of attack, but he

56:46

has average hand placement. He can get

56:48

too wide and cause them to fully

56:50

sustain his blocks. Are you trying to

56:53

make me leave? I'm just saying, bro.

56:55

Are you trying to make me leave?

56:57

I'm just reading the scouting report. Well,

56:59

you know what? I don't care about

57:01

the scouting report you just read. You

57:04

know who I want to hear? Yes.

57:06

I want to hear. Ian, what's his

57:08

name? Ian, what's his name? Ian. I

57:10

want to hear his scouting report. So

57:12

I did read Ian's scouting report to

57:15

decide whether or not we should read

57:17

the entire thing again after the T-Rex

57:19

arm. If you want, I can read

57:21

you. Yeah, I need, I need, I

57:23

actually like the T-Rex arm. Scott. And

57:26

if I recall, Ian is a jet

57:28

fan, so he is a jet fan,

57:30

so. He had him going as the

57:32

second offensive lineman, so he had him

57:34

as a number two-ranked, ranked offensive lineman.

57:37

Okay, where is that headquartered? It's a

57:39

good question. My basement. You're live above

57:41

the football lab. Yes, I rent it

57:43

out. I don't see the football lab

57:45

in Connecticut. I gotta be honest with

57:48

you. You think it's? Do you think

57:50

it's the nuclear plant that Cam works

57:52

at? Who's that his dad works at?

57:54

Maybe. Is that next to the football

57:56

lab? I mean, he might have like

57:59

a competing football lab where he's like

58:01

doing like flubber or something, right? And

58:03

first experiment's on his son. That's smart.

58:05

So he's out of the football lab.

58:07

He didn't allow a sack all season,

58:10

a daunting SEC conference at 2024. He

58:12

might not necessarily have a blue chip

58:14

trait. That's his game, but he's a

58:16

smooth operator. That's very few weaknesses you

58:18

can find on his tape. He gave

58:21

him overall an A minus. All right,

58:23

so I think you knew the Jets

58:25

were going to take him. He did

58:27

have a whole second here just in

58:29

case the Jets took him Yeah, so

58:32

he believed the Jets. Okay. Yeah, I

58:34

don't mind it. I think it's a

58:36

safe pick I think right now the

58:38

draft so far has been a very

58:40

safe draft Yeah, I think I think

58:43

this is a safe draft class. I

58:45

don't think this is the draft class

58:47

where Outside of cam ward. I don't

58:49

think there's a bunch of guys that

58:51

you're gonna go get like there's no

58:53

wide receiver That you're like oh this

58:56

guy is a match of nightmare Tet

58:58

McMillan has a lot of strikes against

59:00

him. He's probably the top wide receiver.

59:02

I've seen a lot of plays off.

59:04

I've seen not top-end speed I've seen,

59:07

you know, he's big, he reminds me

59:09

of Drake London. He's big, he can,

59:11

he can make contested catches. And Drake

59:13

London's a great player. Is that so

59:15

bad? Absolutely not. He's a great player.

59:18

But it's also not a, it's also

59:20

not a sexy pick. It's not Jamal

59:22

Chase. We just got, you know, a

59:24

guy who's gonna break records at the

59:26

bank and all that. We got a

59:29

safe wide receiver. A guy's gonna catch

59:31

the ball when it's hearing. And that

59:33

sucks for him because he's a really

59:35

good friend. I agree. It's like the

59:37

Drake London comp is good and like

59:40

in its in its full form It's

59:42

Mike Evans the best receiver you've never

59:44

seen on a commercial Which is like

59:46

a travesty because he'll be a first

59:48

ballot hall of fame or or at

59:51

least he should be and he still

59:53

probably has another five really good years

59:55

in him, which is crazy to think

59:57

about we were talking we we spoke

59:59

to Mel Kiper this week and Mel

1:00:02

said nobody's happy in the first round

1:00:04

with a single anymore They're not even

1:00:06

happy with a double. It's a triple

1:00:08

or a home run or a grand

1:00:10

slam. That's the only thing people want

1:00:13

in the first round. And I feel

1:00:15

like Tech McMillan is a solid double.

1:00:17

And nobody wants that. Yeah. I don't

1:00:19

think it wrong. We were talking a

1:00:21

little while ago, by the way, we're

1:00:24

presented. by smeared off the world's number

1:00:26

one vodka. Please drink response. We were

1:00:28

talking a little bit earlier. The jet's

1:00:30

pick is in. We know who the

1:00:32

jets are gonna take. We're still waiting

1:00:35

for Godel to officially announce. We're so

1:00:37

far ahead. Yeah. Now. Oh well. Here's

1:00:39

another thing that's interesting. The Panthers are

1:00:41

on the clock and we heard moments

1:00:43

ago that the Panthers were shopping this

1:00:46

pick. So did the Panthers keep this

1:00:48

pick or are they able to successfully

1:00:50

move it? Who would trade up at

1:00:52

this point? Because there was talk about

1:00:54

the fact that the Broncos were really

1:00:57

interested in Ghenti if he was still

1:00:59

available made. So were the Bears. He's

1:01:01

gone. So the Bears are not going

1:01:03

to trade up for him, obviously he's

1:01:05

off the board. The Broncos don't need

1:01:08

to trade up for Ghent because he's

1:01:10

off the board. I don't know that

1:01:12

teams are going to be reaching for

1:01:14

Shador just yet if you want a

1:01:16

quarterback out there. So who is someone

1:01:19

that teams would be trading up for?

1:01:21

Probably a tackle. There's there is a

1:01:23

fall off in this tackle class according

1:01:25

to most of the talking heads most

1:01:27

of the evaluators There is a fall

1:01:30

off after I think that yeah Some

1:01:32

people have the guy at a Minnesota

1:01:34

in that area too, but there is

1:01:36

a big fall off. So if you

1:01:38

want a tackle you have to get

1:01:41

him now There's still two really good

1:01:43

pass ruthers from Georgia. I expect the

1:01:45

Carolina Panthers have made the pick Billy.

1:01:47

The Panthers have made the pick. I

1:01:49

expect the Panthers to probably take one

1:01:52

of the Georgia pass rushers here. And

1:01:54

after that, I mean, you still have

1:01:56

two of the highest rated players in

1:01:58

the draft. The only problem is they

1:02:00

both play tight end. A position that's

1:02:03

not listed as a premium position. I

1:02:05

wouldn't mind a tie-in here, especially, you

1:02:07

know, giving Bryce Young's kind of resurgence.

1:02:09

Sure, you know. Short quarterbacks, you give

1:02:11

them a run game, and you give...

1:02:14

them a tight end. Yep. That's like

1:02:16

a like you know 101 easy target

1:02:18

for your quarterback. Well the pick is

1:02:20

in for the Panthers and I was

1:02:22

wrong. Oh that was a quick which

1:02:25

is common. The Panthers went with the

1:02:27

double. They're taking Tet McMillan. Really? Which

1:02:29

is I mean You just said you

1:02:31

give your quarterback, I mean, Ted McMillan

1:02:33

is as close to a tight end

1:02:36

as a ride for secret. I was

1:02:38

going to say, you give him a

1:02:40

big guy, he's a guy that you

1:02:42

don't have to be completely accurate with

1:02:44

the throw, you just have to kind

1:02:47

of get it near him. Yes, yes,

1:02:49

incredible, incredible ball skills. Very big target.

1:02:51

Not the quickest? No. But he plays

1:02:53

his butt off. The quite... Polar opposite

1:02:55

of the way I play. Oh, you

1:02:57

know, I like to drop a ball

1:03:00

at once every four times. You didn't

1:03:02

play your butt off. Let's you, let

1:03:04

you know, I just play my ball.

1:03:06

Okay, I did. But look, Temig Millen,

1:03:08

I like him. He is very versatile,

1:03:11

even at his size. He plays inside,

1:03:13

he plays outside, ball skills, literally off

1:03:15

the charts. Like, so anything he lacks

1:03:17

and top line speeds, you kind of

1:03:19

give him a pass for because the

1:03:22

ball to it in his facility, contested,

1:03:24

contested, contested, contested catches, contested catches. You

1:03:26

know, even coming out of breaks, again,

1:03:28

you're not going to look at him

1:03:30

and be like, oh man, that feels

1:03:33

like Tyri Kiel for obvious reasons. But

1:03:35

in his plays, when you look at

1:03:37

his explosive plays, he's playing his tail

1:03:39

off. So if it's 40 times a

1:03:41

4-5-2, 4-5, 4-4-8, cat'am of different clocks,

1:03:44

you're getting that full amount on film.

1:03:46

There's so many guys that I see

1:03:48

that are like high four-3-3, three, three,

1:03:50

low-s, low-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4- At that rate, with Ted

1:03:52

McMillan, you're getting his full speed and

1:03:55

you're getting everything else that comes with

1:03:57

it. He's... I still think they have

1:03:59

so many holes on that team. past

1:04:01

catcher was one I thought they but

1:04:03

I mean they can't get to the

1:04:06

quarterback at all I mean are we

1:04:08

gonna see are we gonna see the

1:04:10

slide that we saw last year from

1:04:12

edge rushers because I think we went

1:04:14

we went to like 16 last year

1:04:17

before we saw the first defensive player

1:04:19

go last year last year I mean

1:04:21

look when I look at the Panthers

1:04:23

Obviously, they're picking where they're picking for

1:04:25

a reason. And I think with that

1:04:28

organization, even if their defense is trash

1:04:30

this year and they can't get to the quarterback.

1:04:32

If their quarterback that they have plays well, they're

1:04:34

gonna look at that like if they won the

1:04:36

damn Super Bowl. So let me ask you. Is

1:04:39

Bryce Young good? I mean, what we saw the

1:04:41

first few years was not good. No. And then

1:04:43

he got benched and he came back and he

1:04:45

looked like a different player. He did. I think

1:04:48

Bryce Young is good. I think he's talented. Is

1:04:50

this a make it a break at your phone?

1:04:52

I don't think it's getting him weapons too. I

1:04:54

don't think it's a make it or break a

1:04:56

year. I feel like that they've seen enough to

1:04:59

say okay. I mean obviously if he comes out

1:05:01

it is just terrible. You're gonna always, this is

1:05:03

what we do. We analyze and overanalyze quarterback by

1:05:05

the play, by the drive, by the hand. By

1:05:08

the wins and losses, which is really not fair.

1:05:10

But even still, like I think from what we

1:05:12

saw from what we saw what we saw from

1:05:14

what we saw from what we saw from Bryce

1:05:17

Young a year ago, from Bryce Young a year

1:05:19

ago, from Bryce Young a year ago, With him

1:05:21

kind of let go, man, like there's a perfection

1:05:23

element, especially for a kid like him. Five star,

1:05:26

has his pick at the litter of the school

1:05:28

he wants to go to, wins the Heisman National

1:05:30

Championship, first overall pick. Like he is groomed

1:05:32

to be in the position he's in, even

1:05:34

if he's not per typical size. Him getting

1:05:37

bent was the best thing that could have

1:05:39

happened to him, because he just kind of

1:05:41

went through it and was like, yo, to

1:05:43

hell with it. And then you could see

1:05:46

his real potential. Well, here's a thing that

1:05:48

works against him, is that David Tepper is

1:05:50

somewhere between impulsive and insane. Yeah. So, everything

1:05:52

that you're saying makes perfect sense, but you

1:05:54

have no idea what this guy is gonna

1:05:57

do one day to do one day to

1:05:59

the next. And

1:06:01

polls are insane? Yeah. Okay. In

1:06:03

between there. I like my edge

1:06:05

rushes that. Ownership is not the

1:06:07

best. Who's the most insane player

1:06:09

you played against? The guy where

1:06:11

you're like insane? Yes. The guy

1:06:13

that you were... You might be

1:06:15

a little scared of him. Like

1:06:17

he didn't realize this was a

1:06:19

game and a job. Like he

1:06:21

took this way too seriously. I

1:06:23

think everybody takes it serious. I

1:06:25

had a coach that would tell

1:06:27

us, you need to go out

1:06:29

here like lies or at stake.

1:06:31

because they are and what he

1:06:33

would tell it before he went

1:06:35

on the field. And I'm like,

1:06:38

I'm like, that's not reassuring. You

1:06:40

know, I could actually die out

1:06:42

there. So he's like, I want

1:06:44

you to take it that serious

1:06:46

because he would basically tell us

1:06:48

like, just so you know, they're

1:06:50

trying to kill you. And he

1:06:52

would be being so serious. But

1:06:54

I played in the AFC North

1:06:56

at a time when there was

1:06:58

Ray Lewis, Terrell Sugs. James Harrison,

1:07:00

Palomalo, like, okay. So in San

1:07:02

Jose, it's a lot of the

1:07:04

form. Got it. On our team,

1:07:06

we had a guy by the

1:07:08

name of Vantes Perfect. You may

1:07:10

have heard him. And he was

1:07:12

top of the insanity list because

1:07:14

he wouldn't even turn it off

1:07:16

in practice. So the things you

1:07:18

saw him do on Sundays. We

1:07:20

would practice against them and think,

1:07:22

yo, I don't know what the

1:07:24

hell this dude is gonna do.

1:07:26

And that is a tough place

1:07:28

to be in when you're like,

1:07:30

I don't know what you're gonna

1:07:32

do because you don't know what

1:07:34

you're gonna do. Well, is that

1:07:36

a switch that he had just

1:07:38

on and off the field or

1:07:40

that's just how he lives his

1:07:42

life? No, that was him on

1:07:44

the field. But it wasn't like,

1:07:46

he didn't make the delineation between

1:07:48

practicing the game. Whose jerseys were

1:07:50

on the other end? Hey, that

1:07:53

looked like a good Smear-off. By

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the way, we're presented by Smear-off,

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Please drink responsibility. If you're here,

1:08:01

fans, enjoy a home game punch,

1:08:03

a smear-off-your-pilla-piquante. Why did it call

1:08:05

it Pejada? But that's not what

1:08:07

it's called. Saints are on the

1:08:09

clock. Yeah. Who's playing quarterback for

1:08:11

him? Derek Carr. Derek Carr's got

1:08:13

a shoulder injury, might not play,

1:08:15

all year. He might be out

1:08:17

for the year. On a 60-something

1:08:19

million dollar cap hit. Got to

1:08:21

love it, man. Could this be

1:08:23

should do it? It could be.

1:08:25

I don't think it is. No.

1:08:28

Oh, so Ted McMillan had

1:08:30

been throwing with Bryce Young

1:08:32

already in Los Angeles. Oh,

1:08:34

does Bryce Young have the

1:08:36

clout in the organization to

1:08:38

be like, hey, that's my

1:08:40

guy. Go, go get him.

1:08:43

Yeah, well, maybe. I think

1:08:45

so. Or do you think

1:08:47

somebody said, hey, Bryce, get

1:08:49

on a plane, go to

1:08:51

LA, we want you to

1:08:53

throw him with this guy.

1:08:55

Yeah, I think, I think

1:08:57

it was like, who do

1:08:59

you like, Ted McMillan is?

1:09:01

It's the guy. So it

1:09:03

might not be the deciding

1:09:05

vote. But it's significant to

1:09:07

get that from your quarterback.

1:09:10

So the Saints aren't going

1:09:12

to take Shador. Okay. No.

1:09:14

But are they going to

1:09:16

take Jackson Dart? No. They're

1:09:18

not taking him either. The

1:09:20

slide officially starts for Shador.

1:09:22

We calling this the official

1:09:24

slide? This is the official

1:09:26

slide. Look at a team

1:09:28

that needs a quarterback. And

1:09:30

it's like, oh, this is

1:09:32

one of the teams we've

1:09:34

heard that could make sense.

1:09:37

One of the first ones,

1:09:39

the slide is officially starting.

1:09:41

How far is the slide?

1:09:43

Is he at the draft?

1:09:45

He is not. Oh, that's

1:09:47

not great. I think I'm

1:09:49

actually of the mindset that

1:09:51

don't avoid the camera when

1:09:53

the slide happens. You gotta

1:09:55

lean into it. You play

1:09:57

it on your shoulder. You

1:09:59

let the heartstrings tug. have

1:10:01

a bold prediction. Out of

1:10:04

mind, go ahead. On where

1:10:06

Shador is gonna go. Okay.

1:10:08

Is it bold? It is

1:10:10

bold. All right. The Los

1:10:12

Angeles Rams. That's bold. The

1:10:14

Los Angeles Rams at 26.

1:10:16

I think they I think

1:10:18

they could take him with

1:10:20

the understanding of Stafford is

1:10:22

not long for this league.

1:10:24

Yeah. And we have one

1:10:26

of the. Best offensive minds

1:10:28

in the game Los Angeles

1:10:31

Rams. That's my bold prediction

1:10:33

meanwhile the Saints are taking

1:10:35

Kelvin banks offensive tackle. Yeah

1:10:37

Texas I mean good for

1:10:39

them I

1:10:42

can tell you what? Why don't we

1:10:44

get excited about Officer Blumen in the

1:10:47

draft man? It's not sexy. The best

1:10:49

line I ever heard about an offensive

1:10:51

tackle was after the Jets took one.

1:10:54

He said, hopefully you never hear my

1:10:56

name again. Because if you ever hear

1:10:58

my name as an offensive tackle again,

1:11:01

chances are I did something wrong. So

1:11:03

true. I have a ranking here for

1:11:05

Calvin Banks Jr. from Ian Taylor's roommate.

1:11:07

I need to know how to feel

1:11:10

about it. Saints fans need to know

1:11:12

how to feel about it. Saints fans

1:11:14

need to know how to feel about

1:11:17

it. So here's what Ian says. First

1:11:19

he calls him Calvin Banks Jr. Which

1:11:21

isn't a good sign. That is not

1:11:24

a good start. He has him ranked

1:11:26

6th, so he does not have him

1:11:28

being the third one taken off the

1:11:30

board. And this may be wrong name,

1:11:33

rank 6th, may be kind of an

1:11:35

indicator of where this is going. He

1:11:37

says, quote, a lot of scouts and

1:11:40

so-called experts will have Banks as one

1:11:42

of the top rated O-line in the

1:11:44

draft. Quite frankly, I just don't see

1:11:47

it. While banks does have all the

1:11:49

traits you want in our offensive tackle,

1:11:51

the tape does not lie. Digging into

1:11:54

the details, you will find foot speed

1:11:56

and hand placement issues which will be

1:11:58

exposed and lead to more penalties at

1:12:00

the NFL level. Overall grade C minus.

1:12:03

And the C stands for... Certified bust.

1:12:05

I thought it was going to be

1:12:07

C for Calvin even though he doesn't

1:12:10

spell it that way. Yeah, C for

1:12:12

Calvin would have been a good one.

1:12:14

That's harsh. He's not wrong. But I

1:12:17

think certainly not right. He's in finance.

1:12:19

So that's a finance guy. Ian. I

1:12:21

will say I was excited to see

1:12:24

that we're talking about. I think bank

1:12:26

transitions to offensive guard. Okay, and I

1:12:28

think that's where he lives because a

1:12:30

lot of the issues that you see

1:12:33

on film from him are because he's

1:12:35

a little out of position He's a

1:12:37

little small for off of the tackle

1:12:40

not like the greatest size not like

1:12:42

But even the fact that he has

1:12:44

that versatility I think is one of

1:12:47

the reasons why the Saints Got him

1:12:49

at the moment at this place. They

1:12:51

did because I do think he could

1:12:53

be an elite guard and I think

1:12:56

he'll be a service of war with

1:12:58

the tackle They just lost Ryan RAM

1:13:00

check, he retired after a year of

1:13:03

not being able to play with knee

1:13:05

injuries. This to me feels like kind

1:13:07

of what the jets are doing in

1:13:10

that we know we don't have our

1:13:12

quarterback, we know he's not on the

1:13:14

roster, we know he's not in this

1:13:17

draft class, so what we're gonna do

1:13:19

is when the one comes along next

1:13:21

year, he's gonna come into a better

1:13:23

situation. Yep, and you know what? There's

1:13:26

nothing wrong with that. Build the world.

1:13:28

It is, it's dawning on me when

1:13:30

we go over Ian's analysis that he

1:13:33

has an issue with Calvin Banks Jr's

1:13:35

arm length, but with Will Campbell, he

1:13:37

was calling him a T-Rex and saying

1:13:40

that he was going to be a

1:13:42

superstar regardless of his arm length. And

1:13:44

therein lies the bias. I feel like

1:13:47

we may have issues here, yeah. So

1:13:49

is he like Spinosaurus? Does he not,

1:13:51

like, like, what are we... Who is

1:13:53

Ian's favorite college football team? That's a

1:13:56

good question. I can look into that

1:13:58

if you'd like. He's a Jets fan.

1:14:00

He doesn't like college football. Or he

1:14:03

likes Notre Dame. The Bears have made

1:14:05

their pick. Oh, the Bears in. And

1:14:07

the Bears throw a little bit of...

1:14:10

curveball here. Okay. They are going with

1:14:12

the tight end but it's not Tyler

1:14:14

Warren like everybody thought it would be

1:14:17

as the first tight end taken. The

1:14:19

bears are taking Holston Loveland at a

1:14:21

Michigan boy. Which is I love the

1:14:23

idea of Ben Johnson being in the

1:14:26

lab with two tight ends that are

1:14:28

different in how they play. in Colcomet

1:14:30

and now Colston Loveland. You have Roma

1:14:33

Dunes, you have DJ Moore. I mean,

1:14:35

Caleb Williams is gonna be running out

1:14:37

of any type of excuse between the

1:14:40

rebuild offensive line, they did all that

1:14:42

work in free agency, and now you've

1:14:44

got him multiple weapons that can come

1:14:46

from anywhere on the field. I mean,

1:14:49

Caleb Williams, you might be, you might

1:14:51

have a little bit of pressure on

1:14:53

you. I mean I think he's already

1:14:56

had pressure but I think you're absolutely

1:14:58

right. It's like you had somebody like

1:15:00

Loveland and we just talked about it

1:15:03

with Bryce Young. Like I have no

1:15:05

idea what he's saying. Me neither. Because

1:15:07

I have headphones on. We got some

1:15:10

great fan interaction going here. Tyler Warren.

1:15:12

from the audience. Wow. Wow. Actually, Tyler

1:15:14

Warren. You had one job. Uh-oh. Okay.

1:15:16

Now we have. Now I'm being told

1:15:19

he's wrong. I think you guys should

1:15:21

bet a shot on it. Okay. Now

1:15:23

this is a. Our producer is telling

1:15:26

this. It's Colston Loveland. Fan is telling

1:15:28

us it's Tyler Warren. No moment. We

1:15:30

have to wait. It seems to go

1:15:33

off on stage together. Yeah. Two of

1:15:35

two of my favorites. It seems as

1:15:37

though they definitely took a tight end

1:15:40

though. We're just not sure which tight

1:15:42

end they took. We're not sure which

1:15:44

tight end. Colson Loveland, by the way,

1:15:46

fun fact, he raised animals as a

1:15:49

child and competed in the rodeo. He

1:15:51

often missed times at school. He was

1:15:53

a brand... and tabs. Wow, wow, that

1:15:56

is crazy. Now I just need to

1:15:58

figure out which tight end this actually

1:16:00

is. That's an important piece of this

1:16:03

show. I tend to feel like... I'm

1:16:05

going on your side, man. Yeah? I

1:16:07

feel like you had it right. I

1:16:09

would love to take all the credit

1:16:12

and I will, but I'm getting that

1:16:14

information from... I like how you're getting

1:16:16

out from underneath in case it's wrong.

1:16:19

In case it's wrong? I get to

1:16:21

throw in, that's why you're a pro.

1:16:23

Exactly. You get out from underneath it,

1:16:26

you put it on the next guy,

1:16:28

just in case. Because the wind's not

1:16:30

worth it. I agree. Just so everyone

1:16:33

knows, this was not me. Quick reminder

1:16:35

as we wait to find out which

1:16:37

Tightideide end was taken, if you're watching

1:16:39

along. on the internet a cam ward

1:16:42

number one jersey and reminder he will

1:16:44

not be number one because morn moon

1:16:46

was number one and that number's retired

1:16:49

so he did get this is a

1:16:51

one of a kind he definitely will

1:16:53

not be also these jerseys are coming

1:16:56

out may 14 so you're gonna be

1:16:58

one of the first people never mind

1:17:00

the schedule is coming out may 14

1:17:03

so you're gonna be one of the

1:17:05

first people never mind the schedule is

1:17:07

coming out may 14 look at this

1:17:09

fan you might still win who are

1:17:12

the bears picking I love this. I

1:17:14

can't wait to find out myself. And

1:17:16

let's also just put out there that...

1:17:19

taking information from a random fan and

1:17:21

then putting it up there with our

1:17:23

producers sure as a bold choice it

1:17:26

is like just but I love this

1:17:28

he was so sure he had to

1:17:30

interrupt everything to make sure we knew

1:17:33

I completely lost I thought he was

1:17:35

a producer the way he got my

1:17:37

attention he was very confident and that's

1:17:39

what life is about being that confident

1:17:42

yeah that's what I want from my

1:17:44

quarterback I kind of hope that he

1:17:46

does that after every pick and just

1:17:49

tells us that we're wrong because we're

1:17:51

in an effort to beat the delay

1:17:53

we're jumping the announcement of the picks

1:17:56

as we see them. And if we're

1:17:58

wrong, it would be incredible. Let's

1:18:02

see okay Man, I do love

1:18:04

Loveland though. No pun intended. Yeah,

1:18:06

I have his film put up

1:18:08

here on PFF I'm watching him

1:18:10

out of the slot just natural

1:18:13

hands He looks more like a

1:18:15

receiver when he runs route. I'd

1:18:17

match up nightmare like he really

1:18:19

is the the the lightning to

1:18:21

cold commits thunder for for Caleb

1:18:24

Williams if indeed he is the

1:18:26

pick I think that's really the

1:18:28

difference between him and Tyler Warren.

1:18:30

I feel like Tyler Warren is

1:18:32

much more of an in-line tight

1:18:35

end. Yeah. Now he's still a

1:18:37

match-up nightmare in the passing game,

1:18:39

but I think Tyler Warren is

1:18:41

a little bit better in the

1:18:43

running, the run game and the

1:18:45

block. He feels a little redundant

1:18:48

to Cochumet. If you go with

1:18:50

Tyler Warren. Again, he moves like

1:18:52

a receiver. Man to man, third

1:18:54

downs. Like, I won't. dare to

1:18:56

call him Travis Kelsey but you're

1:18:59

getting That kind of a match

1:19:01

up with him because he can

1:19:03

switch his hips, he can drop

1:19:05

his weight, he can get in

1:19:07

and out of brakes and he's

1:19:10

good after the catch. Whereas Tyler

1:19:12

Warren is much more Rob Broncoski.

1:19:14

Not to, you know, say too

1:19:16

high a bar for these two

1:19:18

titles. Let's just keep doing it,

1:19:21

bro. And the spirit of Ashton

1:19:23

Jensen, I'm all for that, bro.

1:19:26

So I was wondering what all

1:19:28

the booze were then I realize

1:19:30

the draft is in Green Bay

1:19:32

in Chicago. Yes. Colston Loveland. Colston

1:19:35

Loveland. All right. To our fan

1:19:37

producer. All right. So our producer

1:19:39

is just taking it all his

1:19:41

strides. He was absolutely right. It

1:19:43

was Loveland. I don't know why

1:19:45

we ever questioned it. And he's

1:19:47

already onto the next. So. For

1:19:49

whatever happens the rest of this

1:19:51

night, whoever came up here and

1:19:53

told us it was Warren, their

1:19:55

automatic. out of the jersey running.

1:19:57

Is that okay? I was actually

1:19:59

going to say the opposite. Sure,

1:20:01

feel free. Feel free to interrupt

1:20:03

every single pick announcement and tell

1:20:05

us whatever you want. So now

1:20:07

you get two tickets, it's a

1:20:09

Jersey raffle. Wow. If San Francisco

1:20:12

49ers didn't let a minute go

1:20:14

by the clock before they made

1:20:16

their pick. Cal Shanahan. That means

1:20:18

he got his guy. The pick

1:20:20

is in at least according to

1:20:22

our producer, I don't know about

1:20:24

our fan producer, but it is.

1:20:26

Michael Williams, which is a little

1:20:28

bit surprising because Javon Walker's still

1:20:30

on the board and most people

1:20:32

had him ranked as the number

1:20:34

two edge rush or after Abdul

1:20:36

Carter You know, that's what I

1:20:38

love about cow Shanahan because he

1:20:40

sees things his way Yeah, like

1:20:42

he like has Traditionally always gone

1:20:44

with the guys that he values

1:20:46

at a certain space and a

1:20:48

lot of times it feels like

1:20:51

a reach on draft day, but

1:20:53

now we're at a space where

1:20:55

it's like okay. If he says

1:20:57

he's the next best edge, all

1:20:59

the rankings will change. This is

1:21:01

an A plus pick. This is

1:21:03

a guy that, you know, a

1:21:05

lot of people didn't know about,

1:21:07

but we all did. You know

1:21:09

what? Building your team, the way

1:21:11

only you see it, is job

1:21:13

security. Because if they were ever

1:21:15

to get rid of Kyle Shanahan,

1:21:17

the next coach is going to

1:21:19

come in and be like, what

1:21:21

the hell? What is this? What

1:21:23

am I supposed to do with

1:21:25

these pieces? Exactly. Let's play in

1:21:28

chess. Michael Williams, scouting report. All

1:21:30

right. Who is he? He aligns

1:21:32

at Ed to various techniques. Not

1:21:34

a whole lot of production in

1:21:36

his last season at Georgia, but

1:21:38

the physical traits are there. Very

1:21:40

good length. Elite strength and explosiveness

1:21:42

as an athlete, which Cal Shanahan

1:21:44

loves. He loves guys that look

1:21:46

very twitchy on film. In the

1:21:48

past game, average get off but

1:21:50

outstanding speed to power with a

1:21:52

very good motor. Overall better in

1:21:54

the run than the past. a

1:21:56

four-three scheme fit within hand in

1:21:58

the dirt needs to His fan

1:22:00

is past rushing ability at the

1:22:02

next level. He still rides a

1:22:05

project. Average starter was so weakness

1:22:07

to his game, but a solid

1:22:09

upside as a starter. Here's something

1:22:11

that I've kind of noticed in

1:22:13

all the mock drafts and stuff

1:22:15

I'm reading. We always talk about

1:22:17

Georgia defenders. And for as many

1:22:19

great ones as they are, they're

1:22:21

usually not on the edge. There's

1:22:23

a lot of good interior defensive

1:22:25

lineman and a lot of good

1:22:27

linebackers, off-ball linebackers, and then some

1:22:29

in the secondary. But like the

1:22:31

edge rushers don't always live up

1:22:33

to the hype because of, I

1:22:35

mean, when you're rusting next to

1:22:37

Jaylin Carter, of course there's going

1:22:39

to be a lane for you.

1:22:42

You can't get double teams. So

1:22:44

it's interesting to see how two

1:22:46

Georgia Pass rushers are likely to

1:22:48

go in this. Top 1520. Yeah,

1:22:50

wherever Javon Walker goes and you

1:22:52

know, they don't always have the

1:22:54

success in the NFL that you

1:22:56

think they would. I'm trying to

1:22:58

pull up his sacks. I want

1:23:00

to get a I want to

1:23:02

get a look at what we're

1:23:04

looking at with Michael Williams. Because

1:23:06

he said he's not that great

1:23:08

in the past in the past

1:23:10

Russian department. He's better against the

1:23:12

run. Um, and I'm just trying

1:23:14

to think defensively for the 49ers.

1:23:17

Are sacks in college, kind of like

1:23:19

touchdowns, where it's a fun stat? It's

1:23:22

a sexy stat, but is it the

1:23:24

end all? Or are you more looking

1:23:26

at pressures? For him it was not

1:23:29

a sexy stat. He had 14 career

1:23:31

sacks. Yeah, he only had six years.

1:23:33

Yeah, he didn't have a ton. Yeah,

1:23:36

so I think pressures are important. I

1:23:38

think when you're scouting college players, like

1:23:40

the really good ones. Production is more

1:23:42

of like a checkbox, right? Like I'm

1:23:45

looking at what I see, I'm looking

1:23:47

at your speed, I'm seeing your explosives,

1:23:49

I'm seeing your hands, I'm seeing all

1:23:52

these like traits, and I want the

1:23:54

production to line up with what I'm

1:23:56

seeing. and if not I need an

1:23:59

explanation of why you don't have 15

1:24:01

sacks at Georgia and if it's because

1:24:03

you're playing against playing with 10 other

1:24:06

NFL players that checks out you know

1:24:08

if it's because you came you know

1:24:10

from an athlete who developed at this

1:24:12

stage that checks out so But I

1:24:15

do like to see even my college

1:24:17

guys, like I want my receivers to

1:24:19

be able to score touchdowns. Sure. I

1:24:22

want you to be able to have

1:24:24

explosive plays at whatever the hell level

1:24:26

you're playing at, and I want my

1:24:29

edge rushes to be able to get to

1:24:31

the damn quarterback, because to me, if nothing

1:24:33

else, that says you care about that. Because

1:24:35

of the depth of rotation in Georgia, he

1:24:37

only averaged 33 and a half defensive

1:24:39

snaps per game. So he didn't

1:24:41

get a ton. Also here in

1:24:43

his strength, he has arms the

1:24:46

length of an an an an

1:24:48

Anaconda. Okay, I got it. All

1:24:50

right, but I'll look into it

1:24:52

further. I'll get back to you

1:24:54

on this one. I'll get what

1:24:56

you're saying, man. Because the anacondes

1:24:58

don't have arms. I think he

1:25:00

has arms are like anaconda arms.

1:25:02

That's a problem. Anaconda's arms are

1:25:04

actually shorter than a T-wicks. I

1:25:06

think he has arms and length

1:25:08

of anaconda bodies. Okay, I'll look

1:25:10

into it further. I'll get back

1:25:12

to you on this one. I'll

1:25:14

get back to you on this

1:25:16

one, I'll get back to you

1:25:18

on this one. Also, he's compared

1:25:20

to JPP, which is good. No,

1:25:22

that's not hot. We have to

1:25:25

go better than that. Can we

1:25:27

make him good? He was, but

1:25:29

I mean, I want, how about

1:25:31

O.C.? A J.P.P. could have been

1:25:33

better than O.C. If he didn't

1:25:35

blow his fingers off. Yeah. They

1:25:37

could have been, but, but accidents

1:25:39

happened. Hey, the Dallas Cowboys

1:25:41

are on the clock. I

1:25:44

have no idea what they're

1:25:46

going to do. Man. Interior

1:25:48

deepest of line. Who's the

1:25:50

top interior deepest of line

1:25:52

right now on the board?

1:25:55

Probably out of Old Miss

1:25:57

is rising up the board.

1:25:59

I mean, do they take,

1:26:01

uh, do they take, uh,

1:26:03

do they take a player

1:26:06

in Hampton? Do they take,

1:26:08

do they take Matthew Golden?

1:26:10

Do they take the next

1:26:12

best wide receiver available? I

1:26:14

like Golden. Do they take

1:26:16

Travan Walker? They might lose

1:26:18

Michael Parsons. I think all

1:26:21

of the, they're not losing

1:26:23

Michael Parsons, though. You can

1:26:25

only pay so many guys.

1:26:27

There's no way. All right.

1:26:30

I don't think out of those

1:26:32

three, Mike is the one they

1:26:35

let walk. Mike is the only

1:26:37

one who doesn't have the contract.

1:26:39

Right, but I think you offload

1:26:42

one before you just decide not

1:26:44

to give Michael one. I agree,

1:26:46

but at the same time, what

1:26:49

Jerry Jones is gonna do is

1:26:51

a different story. Yeah. Looking at,

1:26:54

uh, looking at the board here,

1:26:56

we're in the shouldoor slide at

1:26:58

the moment. Where do you see

1:27:01

it? Oh, we're officially in slide

1:27:03

mode here. Because, yeah. Cowboys, Dolphins,

1:27:05

Cardinals, Bengals. We have quarterbacks of

1:27:08

these teams. We're gonna have to

1:27:10

have someone trade up to get

1:27:13

him, but why would you need

1:27:15

to trade up? Because you know

1:27:17

none of them are gonna take

1:27:20

him. We, right. We, well, because

1:27:22

you want to get ahead of

1:27:24

a team like Pittsburgh. We're just

1:27:27

now announcing the 49ers pick one.

1:27:29

Oh yeah, I announced that 20

1:27:32

minutes ago, sorry. We maybe, you

1:27:34

may be announcing these picks a

1:27:36

little bit too early. Yeah, we,

1:27:39

we, we, we, especially when we

1:27:41

had a situation where we were

1:27:43

doubting if our pick was correct

1:27:46

or not. Yeah. Because even in

1:27:48

the delay, bro, we gotta be

1:27:51

at least 11 minutes ahead. All

1:27:53

right. Dallas Cowboys. I don't know

1:27:55

what's wrong with them, man. They've

1:27:58

got, like, they've got the quarterback.

1:28:00

They used to have the. offensive

1:28:02

line. I'm not sure they have

1:28:05

it anymore. They had the wide

1:28:07

receiver, they had the threat, they've

1:28:10

got a good tight end, they

1:28:12

had really good pieces on defense

1:28:14

but they just can't get out

1:28:17

of their own way. And that

1:28:19

getting hurt and then I don't

1:28:21

know what the Cowboys need right

1:28:24

here. I couldn't be less excited

1:28:26

about the Cowboys. What's interesting new

1:28:28

head coach. What's

1:28:32

interesting is the 49ers a team

1:28:34

we generally think knows what they're

1:28:36

doing They made their pick within

1:28:38

the first minute the cowboys have

1:28:40

45 seconds left on the clock

1:28:42

at this point the pick is

1:28:44

in they got it in and

1:28:46

they just got it in under

1:28:49

the wire man Man Jerry Jones

1:28:51

waits till the last minute to

1:28:53

do everything He waits for the

1:28:55

last minute to do everything. Yeah,

1:28:57

I think it's I think he

1:28:59

knows what he wants to do,

1:29:01

but I think the majority of

1:29:03

the time has spent everybody trying

1:29:06

to convince him otherwise and saying

1:29:08

no for him to ultimately land

1:29:10

on what he already said he

1:29:12

was going to do. All right,

1:29:14

we have to pick. We're going

1:29:16

to hold it. We're going to

1:29:18

hold it. I don't want to.

1:29:20

I'm going to I'm going to

1:29:22

I'm going to call this play.

1:29:25

How about this? You want to

1:29:27

play a quick game of anonymous

1:29:29

sources? And you can read us

1:29:31

what anonymous sources have said of

1:29:33

their pick that we haven't announced

1:29:35

yet? It has to be a

1:29:37

player we haven't announced. No, no.

1:29:39

Have it be this pick and

1:29:41

then the fans can guess who

1:29:44

it is that the pick is?

1:29:46

I'm not going to lie. I

1:29:48

do not have an anonymous source

1:29:50

for Michael Williams. Of course I

1:29:52

do. Give us the anonymous source

1:29:54

for Michael. Yeah, but that ruins

1:29:56

the game because you know who

1:29:58

it is. I thought it was

1:30:01

we were picking the team. No,

1:30:03

no, no, no, no, no. So

1:30:05

that was how we played during

1:30:07

the year. Do you want me

1:30:09

to give you, if you want

1:30:11

I can give you, yes, then

1:30:13

go back up, if you want

1:30:15

I can give you here. a

1:30:17

way that his play style was

1:30:20

described and then a quote of

1:30:22

himself on his play style. Do

1:30:24

it. So this player that was

1:30:26

picked by the Cowboys. Place has

1:30:28

been described as... It's hot, it's

1:30:30

hot. I gotta come out and

1:30:32

paint jacket for a second. Yeah.

1:30:34

It's ridiculously right now. His play

1:30:36

has been described as legal assault

1:30:39

and he said quote I make

1:30:41

guys not love football anymore. So

1:30:43

what player is this about? This

1:30:45

is about him. Tyler book he

1:30:47

says. Yeah, yeah. Okay. This is

1:30:49

from Ian. No, no, this is

1:30:51

from, you know. Oh, the beef.

1:30:53

This from the beast. Yeah, okay.

1:30:56

He makes players not love. Also

1:30:58

the beef. I've never met him.

1:31:00

Okay. I don't know. He seems

1:31:02

kind of odd if I'm going

1:31:04

to be honest with you. On

1:31:06

his spare time he ranks off.

1:31:08

Booker might be our most excited

1:31:10

draft fit of the night. Yeah.

1:31:12

Oh, is he going to pick?

1:31:15

Talk about, you're talking about a

1:31:17

guy that's happy. To be in

1:31:19

the NFL? Is he going to

1:31:21

pick up Godel when he hugs

1:31:23

him? Oh, I'll tell you. Oh,

1:31:25

I'm, it was swag. You always

1:31:27

got to be careful of the

1:31:29

old lineman who have received the

1:31:31

swag. Because they can go in

1:31:34

the way. They're either going to

1:31:36

be the best off the alignment

1:31:38

or they're going to be terrible.

1:31:40

Or they're still the ones that

1:31:42

are upset they don't get to

1:31:44

touch the ball. All right, well.

1:31:46

Put your phone in a drink

1:31:48

there? I did. Luckily. I do

1:31:51

like. Oh, I missed the hug.

1:31:53

Did he lift up? We didn't,

1:31:55

it's a lot going on right

1:31:57

here, man. I would say it's,

1:31:59

it's all my fault. Yeah. Start

1:32:01

to finish that play, because not

1:32:03

only did I spill the drink,

1:32:05

as I took my jacket off,

1:32:07

made a dismiss whether or not

1:32:10

he is bare hug Godell. Yeah.

1:32:12

I also made the call to

1:32:14

not tip the pick too early.

1:32:16

Yeah. And I made it too

1:32:18

long. Yeah. So that's why. not

1:32:20

everybody can. You're having a pretty

1:32:22

terrible 10 minutes here. I got

1:32:24

my chances to enter and play

1:32:26

caller and it was bad. Me

1:32:29

and the guys who said that

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Warren was getting drafted over Loveland.

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We're having a similar grade right