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say to themselves that's and

1:01

under punishment

1:03

the even not knowing much of anything

1:05

else right there aren't a whole lot of to sean

1:07

watson supporters

1:09

oh yeah they are know there's plenty

1:12

in in they'd of ohio

1:14

or there's a bunch

1:16

in parts of south carolina there

1:18

are a bunch he has a very passionate

1:20

as any person that

1:22

goes through scandal like

1:25

their defenders just fortify

1:27

themselves and these believes they're all for

1:29

defensive there in the wrong but they don't want

1:31

to admit it's their their stubborn

1:33

they're holding on to things they they hold

1:35

the earth now biggest sports tribalism

1:38

you have people that has to be all when

1:40

and defend his own wants and even

1:42

if they find it problematic so

1:44

i finds browns twitter certainly

1:47

changed over the last few months in staunch

1:49

defensive this guy and

1:52

they win now you indoor the

1:54

hurricane of blowback you

1:56

endured my groin

1:59

quitting

1:59

fandom of your football team because some

2:02

of it was so dirty and disgusting you

2:04

have have

2:07

private parts dry humping

2:09

women the details as expressed

2:11

by these women's of like throwing

2:13

his semen at them or

2:16

galling and feel like crimes

2:19

and the penalty

2:20

is that the sean watch and wins the cleveland

2:23

browns when they endured

2:25

whatever had to be endured and in negotiations

2:28

and guaranteeing him the money they

2:30

now get ten years of dish on watson they

2:33

now more

2:35

they ran off baker mayfield the odell

2:37

beckham saying the season of expectations

2:40

all of that was run off the bridge

2:42

to that now gets you to discern watson

2:44

and very soon people will be talking about what

2:47

is the impact of not playing that

2:49

position where they might have a high rate

2:52

of speed for two years very soon

2:54

the conversation will turn to him as a playoffs

2:56

and in six games this might

2:58

not be forgotten but the cleveland browns

3:01

will when they have a franchise quarterback

3:03

the big winner today is not football

3:05

it's certainly not women's it's not roger

3:08

goodell it is dish on watson

3:10

and the cleveland browns they win today with

3:12

his penalty the has one division game and at the

3:14

other

3:16

the keep her being they they winter day

3:18

if you look at that franchise's

3:20

history and if you look at the sean watson's personal

3:23

history

3:24

you can't rule out like you think this is done

3:28

i personally don't i think a

3:30

lot of people were spinning this as when

3:33

me

3:34

the independent orbiter told you we did

3:36

some of that shit you got punished

3:39

for doing the problems that

3:41

you had with the shown watson entering

3:44

this

3:46

or not dawn

3:47

they've been confirmed by an independent arbiter

3:49

and yet it's framed as a when he he

3:52

didn't lose a sense last season

3:54

he's not losing much this season he's losing

3:56

three hundred and forty five dollars again this

3:58

dismantle man

3:59

if you're

4:01

the woman watching this and

4:04

the machine working this way

4:08

the take away goodell power on

4:10

this one

4:11

where your you are realizing an emperor

4:14

has no clothes situation for

4:16

so many years roger goodell has gotten

4:18

his salary to where it is

4:20

as opinion other for the owners because

4:23

he was the hard

4:25

line commissioner who was going to clean up

4:27

the criminals in islam then

4:29

he over punished beyond the law for

4:32

him to not eve not be able to fight this one

4:34

out for him to have to get

4:37

out of the way as the browns

4:39

when john watson wins

4:41

and women lose and

4:43

your sport loses but for six

4:45

games because this you think

4:48

this is going to make it's way of broadcasts

4:50

you think there's gonna be a lot of you think it's ten

4:52

games from the oh look at what time ritual was

4:54

all done for the dolphins what

4:57

is already done for the dolphins you think

4:59

ten games from now anybody's going to be

5:01

talking about talking quarterback let quarterback dry humping

5:03

table problems although the talk about it on a

5:05

football when he when he comes back him back

5:07

him

5:08

league broadcast partners have shown you

5:10

that they're not really all that interested in applying

5:13

that kind of context to it look

5:15

at the of the celebration of been robbers

5:17

burgers career that he spm through

5:20

i on his final home

5:22

game

5:22

against cleveland browns last year they

5:25

they tend to avoid these things

5:27

really disappoints me and i can't say i expected

5:29

more that's right now and on cleveland

5:31

radio you have people celebrating this

5:34

it you have people analyzing this right

5:36

now and he has been what does this mean for the brand's only one

5:38

division game while the got a lucky break with the schedules

5:41

all of it's me as very sad and pathetic because

5:44

he did a lot of this and he had

5:46

the resources to settle it

5:49

you had someone in a position of authority

5:51

to tell you as much as a

5:53

lot of suspicions were confirmed

5:56

a lot of allegations were confirmed and

5:58

yet this is being held up as a me

5:59

victory and i can i go back there

6:02

for a second mic the history of this you

6:04

get mad everytime i frame this

6:06

around goodell but goodell has been

6:08

here as a symbol for

6:10

ownership shield goodell

6:13

makes his money, a money,

6:15

a money that is now private because

6:17

he makes so much of it because

6:20

the television money is so giant this

6:22

man made his name on

6:26

being the guy who punishes

6:29

above-the-law, it's how

6:31

he became the biggest commissioner

6:33

in sports manfred, follows

6:35

him on, trevor bauer manfred,

6:38

learned his knee wait a minute when a guy

6:40

does something like this, i

6:42

can get rid of him years and end

6:44

his career the dell was

6:46

the pioneer, they're using

6:48

his power like

6:50

it hadn't been used by since

6:52

baseball commissioners, actually govern

6:54

the game in the nineteen twenties

6:57

today he puts down his sword

7:00

today the players' union and the lawyers

7:02

and rusty hardin all

7:04

of them were we don't know if he's but it's

7:06

we don't know the appeals process

7:08

and wasn't today was in the last round a collective

7:10

bargaining in which everyone saw

7:12

that roger goodell had too much authority over the

7:15

punishment the the league discipline and

7:17

it and it got seems this is not really have a roger

7:19

goodell stories for me it it becomes

7:21

one if roger then

7:23

decides to take it into his hands and

7:27

an appeal this decision because

7:29

then he has a lot more power and i think he

7:31

just wants to avoid that entire doesn't he have

7:33

to know why isn't he incentivize

7:36

to to lots of leave this national council

7:39

device to look like he cares there

7:41

are incentivized to pretend like

7:43

he cares how this feels

7:46

to his leagues which why is he had said

7:48

device today is it to make it a larger

7:50

public fights where he says what i'm trying

7:52

to do more here i'm trying to determine

7:55

the way i've always governed all over

7:57

punished i'm not the london trying

7:59

to me where are you good is roger goodell answer to

8:02

the other owners the other owners

8:04

want to draw this out because it's not roger get that

8:06

like morally i know i know for

8:08

fact roger goodell has been sampling

8:10

opinions asking for advice what

8:13

should he do he's been running scenarios

8:15

but keep in mind early on in this process

8:17

and we had report said it was invoked the behavior

8:19

of other owners daniel

8:22

snyder jerry jones you

8:24

think he wants to appeal that and have that

8:26

discussion go right now there's the nfl p

8:28

a already told you nfl you better

8:30

not appearing so just know then

8:33

if that's the way that they go

8:35

if the hardline commissioner says

8:37

not

8:38

not interested in that fight they will have

8:40

told you they would have put out the press release

8:43

don't actually care about women

8:45

don't even care how things look nope

8:48

just wanted to go whack want to sean

8:50

want to know when the browns to win the nfl

8:52

to win and women lose those

8:54

don't know like this said roger goodell doing

8:56

his job right because you're blaming roger goodell right

8:58

now when

8:59

like he didn't come up with this decision the league recommended

9:02

a year the league in my room

9:04

and talks might get to my the reason i'm blaming

9:06

roger goodell is because i know that name because

9:09

he's set forth the rules that made it so that

9:11

in an instant like this he can be

9:13

governor you tell me but he also collectively

9:15

bargained a scenario in which right now he

9:18

he can just walk away from this he did not have

9:20

a saying this punishment he actually caught a public

9:22

l he wanted a year in

9:24

settlements actually wanted twelve games

9:27

and a hefty fine the

9:29

last year say that every it's just

9:31

been like what we have a spotlight on this

9:33

else that roger goodell perceived in

9:35

the public the own came years ago when

9:37

they collectively bargain but he wouldn't but i

9:39

got there's when i think he's he's acknowledge

9:41

that he's not going to do this anymore

9:44

he is not be over punishing commissioner

9:46

now he still could be it

9:48

goes after the process me appeal

9:50

comes to him as the nfl wants to appeal

9:52

it's they can but they negotiated

9:55

this process and this according to alber briere

9:57

at least in part because some owners after

9:59

so many mr some discipline over the

10:01

last decade it's one of the nfl take a step

10:03

back in that arena at essentially outsource

10:06

into neutral arbitrator they have done so

10:08

this is been the product of it and so if

10:10

roger goodell can decide right now whether

10:13

or not he wants to continue to be in this game or

10:16

as he officially quitting

10:18

you can't claim that you care

10:20

about women if it's about how things

10:23

look and business and everything

10:25

else takes priority over

10:27

how it is you made your name as the punisher

10:30

u n n hours and i

10:32

think it's to harness islanders look

10:35

i am not defending the the nfl cares about women

10:37

if you look at their toxic were cold turkey see how they covered

10:39

up my what i am an airport you're telling

10:41

me is that big tits

10:44

the president here

10:45

because

10:47

look at what it does to snyder

10:49

all of this is still men protesting men

10:52

the ultimate will be i think the

10:54

decision to whether move forward and we need that

10:57

you to drops the decision to

10:59

move forward with an appeal i think

11:01

the the priority there is not women it's

11:03

probably men who are an ownership position

11:06

because they don't want to have that conversation drawn out

11:08

in public get you but also

11:11

this was an independent orbiter who was a woman

11:13

roger goodell had nothing to do with this

11:15

decision his decision comes now

11:17

i imagine go take the appropriate amount of time to

11:19

move forward with what to do and

11:22

he is going to ask his bosses the nfl

11:24

owners and they are going to care

11:26

a hell of a lot less about women and maybe even

11:29

he does do i have something wrong in

11:31

the system of this when i asked

11:33

you guys the question an independent arbiter

11:35

who is a woman does see

11:38

have to

11:39

take into account what has been their

11:42

workplace precedent of roger

11:44

goodell is an over punisher or is

11:46

he giving

11:48

six games to a guy who's

11:50

gotten around the legalities of

11:52

this and this dealing with civil complaints

11:55

is see giving the extension

11:57

of this is the new nfl

11:59

were we still are punishers

12:01

because in most work places

12:04

you could if you have the value of this

12:06

on what sense end up not

12:08

suffering any six game

12:10

suspension before this recent

12:12

moves towards twenty years

12:14

of roger goodell doing the over

12:17

punishing thing to lead all of sports aren't

12:19

we will prosecute crimes that

12:21

are not crimes according to the law

12:23

i hear you but if that person is applying contacts

12:25

from something outside and not judging the case

12:28

by just simply the merits of the tastes

12:30

and they are acting in a fallacy

12:32

of just

12:33

right

12:34

because you're not supposed to to that you're supposed

12:36

to be totally independence is supposed to block

12:38

out anything that happened prior to anything

12:40

that might happen afterwards your own personal

12:42

bias about the league's that is not your job

12:45

when you're it wasn't your sole focus

12:47

is justice a year and it do you understand

12:49

what i'm saying that before goodell

12:52

there wasn't a scenario where a league

12:54

could come in and give you six games for something

12:56

that wasn't a crime

12:59

and what they do was the there were no crimes

13:01

committed here according to grand jury

13:03

in and that is correct and yet still

13:05

it that six games and the way the what i

13:07

am saying goodell set up a construct

13:09

that i've been telling you for fifteen years the nfl

13:12

is not equipped not equipped not equipped they

13:14

don't quietly get away at the end

13:17

with no will sit it out now because

13:19

i was wrong about all that over punishing stuff now

13:21

i'm making forty million dollars a year we all profited

13:23

off my over punishing stuff because we couldn't

13:25

have chris henry out here and us your

13:27

sink of committing crime right i think

13:29

the punishment that you want your more upset it

13:32

does not getting enough punish for the students

13:35

of of his path not just goodell

13:37

the entire structure meant to camouflage

13:39

all of the power so that goodell

13:41

is the highest you can go up on the heat because

13:43

he's the pioneer on the discipline

13:46

that at the very end of this what you get as

13:48

again women trampled in the protection

13:50

of snyder what you what you get

13:52

again if he doesn't pull that last letter

13:54

i'd want one knees incentivized to

13:56

all that the only incentive to not to

13:58

is the bad luck

13:59

you're saying what the owners wanted to just always

14:02

been a lot more heat on snyder that's protection

14:04

of the business it's cowardice at the highest

14:06

said it's also a partnership your

14:08

adhering to a collective bargaining agreement

14:10

and you're now you're listening

14:13

now now you're going to a when you were built

14:15

upon us or and trebled everybody select what

14:17

was bargains right you are you agreed to

14:20

so he eight when when he gets

14:22

my wrath it's because it's the symbol they're

14:24

throwing out there and paying that way to

14:26

take it as they all hide behind

14:29

him on a day where it can

14:31

be disputed women

14:33

were trampled in the process

14:36

of protecting all entities

14:38

in the business when we're sitting here in cleveland

14:40

celebrating because it looks like a

14:42

den and pardon the pun tucson

14:45

watson got off i think

14:47

roger goodell is earning his money right now during

14:50

the second because again we're not

14:52

keep an eye on them we had someone

14:54

tell us that dish on watson did those things

14:56

he get he got a punishment for it whereas

14:59

you're talking about roger goodell when he

15:01

so he was powerless in the situation

15:03

and now he can decide if he wants

15:05

to throw himself in there and what happens if he does

15:08

that doesn't mean you're going to take it easy on him

15:10

for michael not a to be say he was powerless

15:12

in this situation when i'm telling you there's still

15:14

time for him to not be that kind of empathy

15:17

it doesn't have to choose to be that powerless again

15:19

in the defensive daniel snyder spell when

15:21

people ask me what's to be done here and i'm

15:23

like how about the right thing he's

15:26

actually incentivized to try and give him twelve

15:28

games just so that would such as such

15:30

as even if he doesn't care about women

15:32

the bluster of it would more would virtue

15:35

signal just like so

15:37

jaded by all of this where we care about

15:39

optics and we're talking about what than what feels right

15:41

decision on know what feels right we're

15:44

divisional round game like it's just

15:46

it's you know what i'm saying like it's stupid like

15:49

the fact cleveland decided

15:51

to get this quarter back to me as problematic

15:54

the back of his league has this in their employees

15:57

is problematic the commander's thing

15:59

the me all of this i just

16:01

find a parsing of well that's not enough punishment

16:04

oh great he comes back monday night football

16:06

that's a home game against the bengals we can win that

16:08

one mouth all of it feels so

16:10

stupid to me

16:13

they were victims here some of them

16:15

have settled less than a but they're still

16:17

victims is my point mike all of this brings

16:19

it right back up

16:21

the always going to be victims to everybody

16:24

but one i think must be just announcer

16:26

three the remaining four they have

16:28

settled that's not who they got

16:30

lucky they they they

16:32

they had leverage and and negotiations they were

16:34

wrong the were wrong their

16:37

rights were trampled their

16:39

their privacy was invaded none

16:41

of that seems his with today because

16:43

the show mods and miraculously in the eyes

16:46

of browns fans is only missing one divisional

16:49

what

16:52

there was validity do those

16:54

claims i would honestly

16:57

be worried about having that person

16:59

on my team so because it very clear

17:02

with amount of allegations against some said

17:04

he had a problem and he sold you on the records

17:06

that he's not going to be seeking help because he doesn't

17:08

think you did anything wrong the

17:11

i would have a very deep concern more

17:13

so today then then i had

17:15

about the some watson's even yesterday

17:18

at all of it is gross to me and

17:21

i do put it in this scenario

17:23

and the is not a mortar by any stretch of imagination

17:28

roger goodell is a conversation really

17:31

it's the system it's not goodell it's

17:33

it's the how the system conspires

17:35

including to how it is discussed afterward

17:38

where it's one division game and we know that

17:40

more than the names of the victim is the owner

17:42

stan i'm it's the one i know but

17:44

mike the owners are shielded

17:47

by someone they're paying handsome late

17:49

to be the absorber of these

17:51

things as he makes the rules

17:54

and i wanted pointed out in front of

17:56

everybody that the owners

17:58

here are protecting [unk]

17:59

themselves in the service of the business

18:02

through their lackey who

18:05

has the power and is incentivized

18:08

to use it right now if not for

18:10

the cowardice of having to protect the men

18:12

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i don't even think it's necessarily about nfl

19:39

owners at the moment either i think it's about

19:42

a system that sucks with handling

19:44

this particular thing

19:46

if you look at for example the

19:48

arbitrators who robinson corner alber briere

19:50

sports illustrated only heard

19:53

five

19:54

of the total complaints that there were

19:56

when there's i believe over thirty now

19:58

of the total complaints against watson the

20:00

nfl only investigated five

20:03

of them and that's the data

20:05

that zoo robin to worked off of to had a conversation

20:07

earlier in the show was that

20:10

did this would have more information then

20:12

no other areas to said that she had less

20:15

information that out met has been

20:17

confirmed by reporting since and

20:19

so is an orbital not allowed to read news

20:21

reports which is an order is as an

20:23

order to treated like a jury

20:25

yes i know that right i believe

20:27

i am in some ways like the whole point of using

20:30

an arbiter and are that said i'll put of his to the

20:32

had obama i'm vehicle the legal says

20:34

everyone who's the or what your pining for

20:36

is a violation of

20:38

what that job aspires to

20:40

i thought you meant annabel used about

20:42

how days in and then like presents they're finding

20:45

so the nfl investigation i think the

20:47

only interview and of the women and

20:49

then she the only included five

20:51

in her judgment right forever the when she might

20:53

have found like five of them

20:56

she didn't consider the

20:58

level of of worth punishing and for like we don't

21:00

exactly know there's a fifteen page report that

21:02

i haven't read yet right yeah

21:05

like that have felt did investigative work

21:07

and and presented a case on their behalf arguing

21:10

for the indefinite suspension and

21:12

then she gets to decide like what that

21:14

evidence she's going to

21:15

the contacts should be framed by the two

21:17

parties not because the

21:19

the independent arbiter saw a segment

21:22

on h b o real sports one day and is coming

21:24

into it with a said agenda that's not what you wanna live

21:26

in in an independent audit okay so you're guys

21:28

are gonna have to forgive me on this because i

21:31

am and i remain of the assumption and so

21:33

you prove to me otherwise that an independent

21:35

arbiter all they're doing there is not bought

21:37

by the league independent of the league and also

21:39

not bought by the players association independent

21:41

of those two entities aspiring

21:43

to objectivity but not sequestering

21:46

herself and not are able to

21:48

get any other information from

21:50

anywhere other than what proven to her

21:52

and arguments i don't believe that

21:54

that's the case for an independent are but i think

21:56

she's aspiring dubbed activities but she

21:58

is perhaps why

21:59

junaid we are not avoiding a real

22:02

real sport i am ashamed of cynicism there

22:04

but the have said they take mean that they have

22:06

to aspire to objectively any

22:08

but again

22:09

for women who come forward you

22:11

have to relive this constantly in public

22:13

yet to see this man now run out onto

22:16

the field on monday night football yeah

22:18

it continually watch as your

22:20

cases are not believe your cases will lead

22:22

to bigger punishments even as they've been proven

22:24

as mike zimmer i like i even as an independent

22:27

arbiter i m f yeah it's right

22:29

that that the criminal justice system odd

22:31

does nothing with it via grand jury

22:34

this sucks for women in

22:36

every single possible way and

22:39

so that for me is the story

22:41

years how much the system

22:43

feals women who come forward and

22:45

i can't even imagine being a victim

22:48

a dish on watson's right

22:50

now i

22:51

this conversation triggering

22:53

i ran away from every

22:55

and size because i didn't want to be reminded

22:58

of one who avoided as much as

23:00

i humanly can't because

23:02

i have a visceral reaction to

23:04

it it doesn't feel like justice was served today

23:07

even though you have someone telling you something

23:09

app and and you guys can get frustrated

23:11

with this if you want but my

23:13

point

23:14

again and again on goodell and

23:16

ownership what is the point

23:19

how are you having power

23:21

if you're not gonna actually lead with

23:23

it if every principle is gonna be

23:25

and governments of business it

23:27

is immoral you want to talk about independent

23:30

arbiter business owners

23:32

here the heart independent

23:35

in making sure that there needs

23:37

a business amount no matter who would triples

23:39

and if you want to give all these people

23:41

with all be a few money in the world

23:45

the power the change the

23:48

power to lead and all they do was

23:50

so that the northern front of us at

23:52

forty million dollars a year because he lives in service

23:54

of protection of the rules and of system

23:57

the wilderness isn't but it's not leadership

23:59

make your money it's

24:02

just protection of business users

24:05

the yeah basically a a

24:08

front facing suit and is

24:10

the answering to a capitalistic venture

24:13

is this your

24:13

they don't make money by like being

24:15

no people on like

24:16

billionaires your own football teams

24:19

have gotten their one way or another by doing

24:21

things that most of us would find morally object

24:24

the obama a d n it lands at the feet

24:26

of roger goodell who probably should have hired

24:28

an independent orbiter himself for his position

24:30

here because he has his own biases entering

24:32

in it's think about the person that you're asking him to run

24:34

it through site we have to show their work

24:37

supportive of women but i also have to

24:39

see how this lands with jerry jones

24:41

and daniel snyder because of their workplace

24:43

is not what i'm asking him to do with what he

24:45

volunteered for when he took the job

24:48

and they created it and they turned him into

24:50

the guy who rides and honest

24:51

now and here in for a job is getting

24:53

sixty million dollars didn't know but he

24:55

volunteered for taking up the effort

24:58

to be criminal punish or moral stand

25:00

those are conservative

25:01

while maybe he thought that like doing

25:03

a quote unquote the right thing was good for business

25:06

and and doesn't seem like of matters

25:08

of you do the right thing or not

25:10

it's like the entire like all of

25:12

the david samson cynicism is

25:15

basically just reiterating that over

25:17

and over that like as a as a leader one of

25:19

these businesses you can a you

25:21

can basically operate in in

25:23

bad faith all the time and people love

25:25

their sports seem so much that they don't really care

25:28

and that's that's what sampson would say

25:30

always that these owners are banking on i would argue

25:32

that like that's pretty bleak and depressing

25:34

and i think it's probably worth while the call them out

25:36

when they do it but like that is the business

25:38

of of sports and of like a lot of large

25:41

corporations

25:41

america home years ago you have your cigar filled

25:43

room of a bunch of nfl owners being embarrassed

25:46

by the hate behavior of adam pacman jones

25:48

and say we have to do something about this the

25:50

really assume that

25:52

twelve years later

25:54

their names would be invoked in the nfl p

25:56

a case of wait a second if you're

25:58

going to punish us he got a punt

25:59

robert kraft and you got to punish jerry

26:02

jones and you gotta put it is punish daniel snyder

26:04

because there are you're doing these things

26:06

do they acted like they were above the law

26:09

and those that are that are above the loss of

26:11

the most punitive measures for those they feel break

26:13

the and you talked all agree such a lot about how

26:15

roger goodell was you know

26:18

over punisher and took his

26:20

you know responsibility personally

26:22

but every time the nfl has failed

26:24

here they've failed and under punishing

26:27

because ray rice only got two games

26:29

and twenty fourteen simply after that spilling

26:31

out a two game suspension for the league and twenty fourteen

26:34

you believe that they have failed here in

26:36

underpinning why you're basically

26:38

saying you want roger goodell to doubled down

26:41

on being the punishment commissioner just

26:43

didn't seem like you like to know what i would say

26:45

it's you and this was so

26:48

ever present after the stuff that

26:50

happened with george floyd

26:51

and the way they went from

26:54

not calling cap neck rah rah rah rah

26:56

never my we were wrong about anything were

26:58

wrong about everything never mind

27:00

the just like them to stand for something

27:03

other than money

27:04

something you you have all the money in the world

27:06

you're you're you're not that popular it

27:08

doesn't affect your bottom line

27:10

nothing affects your bottom line all

27:12

there is money pouring in from every everywhere

27:15

is the point of having money just to make

27:17

more money

27:18

i yeah something yep

27:21

yep know i became billion iraqi special

27:23

i'm is not the not that there are too many benevolent

27:26

billionaires give , were to

27:28

find something a little bit nicer you might

27:30

find his knee mbs where the nfl

27:32

were what would the average age of an nfl owners

27:34

seventy three my own finger on my

27:36

the nfl is old modi not reince

27:38

authoritarian but what i wanted

27:40

same guys like this guys like this

27:43

is not

27:44

it's happens to be i

27:46

you but it's not hard to like of

27:48

like look at this and realize why this

27:50

happens and mcguire keeps happening said

27:52

you don't have to you'll have to read the cbs

27:55

you know have to analyze roger

27:57

goodell like jobs history over

27:59

the last and you're like it's pretty easy

28:01

to see how this continues to happen over

28:03

and over again even though like outside

28:06

of boards ago we had this me too movement

28:08

and and now women feel empowered to carbon

28:11

like yeah there's

28:13

still like us a system in place

28:16

the criminal justice system and also all of these other

28:18

institutions that we look to

28:20

to lead us that haven't changed

28:22

you got your number of alive and is what you're telling

28:25

me you're good to with the idea that

28:27

they've been selling us this and

28:29

it's allies now it's like

28:31

never mind you've got to just good with

28:33

they're not good with it i just see through i'm

28:36

as a business strategy or as opposite

28:38

your you guys are so numb

28:41

to the insincerity of it's to the stand

28:44

for nothing but money that when it arrives

28:46

yet again on your doorstep we're going

28:48

to spend shearing dish on watson

28:50

to they were brown france because we're

28:52

all going to lose of for six games and it feels like

28:54

we just won the off season your

28:57

york that know your that that

28:59

sports business and and billionaires

29:02

and business and money in general have left

29:04

you so cynical that your mum

29:06

to the lies in the insincerity and you just

29:08

expected

29:10

i do think from from talking to folks

29:13

and knowing the roger goodell as been they're

29:15

speaking to people wondering

29:18

never really envisioning this day would come

29:20

when he took this job

29:22

the expansion fees and tv rights

29:24

you

29:25

the trying to avoid the scenario in which

29:28

yet again

29:29

the is a bad guy and he is wrong i

29:31

disagree with you so much there in that he

29:33

invited the scenarios by getting

29:35

endeavors head on been bigger than the last

29:37

the process of the serial port no profit

29:40

off the last six pm

29:42

with the person you guys like mrs not about

29:44

the don't i'm like speed is about the way power

29:46

leads and changes and does it's does

29:48

it's the way power pretax and money protects

29:51

and doesn't it's about who protects

29:53

and dozens and you guys are like that business

29:56

mike

29:58

seriously that one is be

30:00

vigilant he's gonna lose his job if he's

30:02

a vigilante not a violent man as me

30:04

was a vigilante forgive me i mentioned also

30:06

single that's my bet he's never had a problem what

30:09

we did have a problem when an allegation a physical abuse

30:11

while he was oh that's right of the end but

30:14

pacman jones and chris henry it's is

30:16

where the lead was out of control the black

30:18

criminals are taking over we have to say this

30:20

out it would birth tapper next it would

30:22

burst the idea that these misleads

30:24

not out of control work at serve the league and we will

30:26

rain down on a wholly punishments

30:29

over the law and the players' union we will not

30:31

collectively bargain this there is no bargain here

30:33

we will crush the player could we can have the league

30:35

looking like it's run by criminals and now

30:37

the quarterback looks like

30:39

he's a criminal all of it is gross

30:41

and

30:43

why like my my

30:45

then i fell

30:46

rob lowe thing is really just me becoming an nfl

30:48

nihilist

30:49

this point i like the sport too much to

30:51

quit it entirely because i

30:53

love my sundays alla fantasy sports

30:55

i love gambling on it i love watching the game

30:58

i love the strategy i love plan

31:00

i love football not get a cut it out

31:02

of my life the business of football is gross

31:05

it is what is really gross what

31:07

did he do the girls with happening right now today's

31:10

decisions the fact that someone has to apply

31:12

what is owners are doing stint in

31:14

order to decide whether or not he moves forward all

31:16

of it is discussing i'm no more

31:18

hypocritical from going from a browns

31:21

logo to an nfl logo

31:23

it makes me feel a little bit better about

31:25

myself soldiers marched down that wouldn't you

31:27

mention feeling better about yourself i can

31:29

help out of spewing after spewing acid

31:31

dot bet on a b c i

31:34

was delighted and surprised to see edward

31:36

cowboys' game

31:37

though is there even when he wasn't with the spm

31:40

he was scylla cowboys can't i picked ed werder

31:42

wasn't any as the end is back

31:44

at e s p n there was something soothing

31:46

about a b c i was expecting see him on a

31:48

b c i'm used to seeing him so he has pm

31:51

on at cowboys camp but now they continue

31:53

to grow and they're going to be everywhere and his

31:56

this virus is gonna be everywhere in it

31:58

is so addictive that and

31:59

order svu is made by being at cowboys

32:02

gates my sports north sorry

32:04

just know that it's always gonna be there and if i ever

32:06

lose my way i just looked towards dallas

32:09

cowboys camp knowing that that mustaches

32:11

gonna be that how long was edward

32:13

are not are d s p

32:15

the i think a couple years there's

32:18

like three years at least

32:20

and

32:21

it was like he hit the ground running was like he never let

32:23

when did that get on a b c though when did

32:25

we start covering cowboys camp with

32:27

ed werder on network television

32:30

at all for two years i'm not i'm not sure what you were

32:32

watching on if they had like sports highlights but

32:34

know it was a sports highlights it was like it looks like a

32:36

thirty minutes or nfl sports so

32:38

know it was it was not thirty

32:40

minutes it was three hours

32:43

on saturday afternoon from noon to

32:45

three was returned to football

32:47

now she wants to significant amount of it's because

32:49

it was before an mls broadcast by to leave

32:52

so is like this the nfl scheduled

32:54

a day where from

32:57

articles i ate in the morning until seven

32:59

at night there was a different training

33:01

camp practice going on that either

33:03

he has been a b c or nfl network

33:06

was live broadcasting from so they can

33:08

present return to football

33:13

it's

33:15

and for all our blustering our not gonna give

33:18

see at once bills sort of

33:20

bills rams kicks off on thursday night

33:22

the goes away the you're

33:25

just sucked into how awesome the sport

33:27

is and how great the broadcast

33:29

are and how much money you have on one

33:31

side and oh i need seven catches

33:34

from cooper cup tonight's is that's

33:36

great it's that's why

33:38

it is a booming business sale

33:42

i just

33:44

look man okay

33:45

i love it too i love

33:48

this dirty saying i love this sinful

33:50

an ethical thing

33:53

but there's some things that happen

33:55

like for example i know trump is despicable

33:58

but when ivana trump for

33:59

purposes it appears

34:02

i'm gonna say appears because i just

34:05

have to accent or donald try to benefit to

34:07

benefit i get well maybe

34:09

it was the tense but to to bury

34:12

ivana trump who dies mysteriously

34:15

by staircase the day

34:17

before the families depositions and then

34:19

she's buried in a in a poppers

34:23

grave on his golf course because of

34:25

property tax exemptions and three

34:27

different kinds of tax exemptions and

34:32

i'm not numb to it yet

34:34

i'm not yeah i'm i'm not numb to you can

34:36

just keep being so appalling all

34:39

the time that i get numb to

34:41

your lies because every last

34:43

thing is more disgraceful than the last

34:45

banks that makes it feel like you're not

34:47

very human i'm i'm

34:49

surprised that surprised

34:51

shouldn't be i guess

34:53

that three hours of football

34:56

would be on saturday the returned to football

35:00

and the this

35:02

will be gone six games

35:05

into the seattle area although will be

35:07

gone it'll be gone the second scott hansen

35:09

welcomes you to seven hours of commercial

35:12

free football over get all of it and

35:14

you'll be reminded of it one one and i broadcasts a

35:16

you will watch because they

35:18

don't talk of they won't talk about that they don't

35:20

talk about this stuff they are thought about it

35:22

the first day back don't

35:24

talk about the game was a games won't let me let me ask

35:26

you this okay as somebody who actually wants

35:29

the magic johnson stuff on apple

35:31

and have been talking to you for a while about

35:34

i'm when this stuff gets antiseptic

35:36

or when the stuff become slightly less of

35:38

a truth because you're in partnership

35:40

with apple and magic doesn't want his

35:42

story told in the most honest wes

35:45

that would show him on arsenio hall and them

35:47

celebrating that he didn't get

35:49

it through gay sex that

35:52

doesn't you're not watching that on the

35:54

documentary

35:56

because magic johnson seem control

35:58

of your product

36:00

when the nfl product is so large

36:02

and so powerful and doesn't actually instigate

36:04

change and lead but uses

36:07

that power only

36:09

the make sure that it's broadcast partners

36:11

are talking only so much about

36:13

the sean wants energy to broadcast partners

36:15

only so comfortable because people will tell

36:17

you behind the scenes how are the nfl

36:21

runs these television

36:23

networks the nfl has an earned

36:25

air again swear they push

36:27

everyone around the nfl bows

36:30

to to no one and nothing

36:32

in how it's presented and how things

36:35

look

36:37

the partnerships

36:39

make it so this stuff can't be talked

36:42

about honestly during a broadcast

36:44

because people don't want it with their broadcast

36:47

the you see how everything in the system conspires

36:50

against the victim

36:52

it's everything in the system just one

36:54

hundred percent from the broadcast

36:56

partners having journalism entities

36:58

john mcclain to cover the texan said broadcast

37:01

partners were weighing in directly

37:03

to the league on how the

37:05

league's should go about the dish on watson thing

37:07

and hussein's again from the sun watson's returns

37:10

e s p n monday night football halloween

37:12

night

37:13

single their browns that's good a

37:15

dual an amazing number

37:17

it's

37:18

the whole system

37:20

the is rick

37:22

it is reg i'm young woman you think

37:24

it's rigged against you but you don't

37:26

care that all of it is reality

37:28

television that all of it as insincere that

37:30

all of it is edited that hard knocks

37:32

that when you get those honest moments

37:35

of what you mean mike zimmer was

37:37

trying to fight kirk cousins when

37:39

you see these things the real stuff spill

37:41

out outside of the military school disciplines

37:45

of football and you get the real stuff

37:47

we stuff we we can handle this piece

37:49

we can handle how this stuff is made what

37:51

goes into making it how it kills it's players

37:54

we can't we don't we cannot begin to

37:56

fathom what this vessel is

37:58

i will say that those

37:59

players know this be better than you and it's

38:02

why they don't love it quite as much as you do they

38:04

love the sundays but they don't feel like they're playing a

38:06

game the rest of the time like it too much or

38:08

people that so actively smoke cigarettes people

38:10

that so turn to to alcohol

38:13

too much and it tells you that it's not

38:15

good for you and your and just

38:17

i don't actually have to be on the field for the

38:19

stuff that's bad for me and i still get to have that level

38:21

of enjoyment i'm not going to stop at don't stop

38:23

drinking

38:25

they're gonna stop it you're running a little stop

38:27

drinking but you're not thinking metamucil

38:29

and you're doing that because i don't

38:31

want don't want drink it i don't

38:33

want to support his i want to live

38:36

the lives that i did when i was twenty and

38:38

i don't want to actually sacrifice

38:40

any of my own enjoyment so

38:42

that's why i'm going to slather my

38:44

face and botox i'm going to drink

38:46

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