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This is the Dan Labatore Show with the Stukas

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Podcast.

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I'm the idiot.

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Right. We all had

0:52

these observations about Chet Holmgrum in the

0:54

summer. It's just not the day for it,

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Mike. It's just not the day for it. We

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also had them about Kevin Durant. Yeah.

1:01

He was great. He was great. And what

1:03

started happening to his body after two

1:06

championships? He's going to the Hall

1:08

of Fame. Yeah, but one banyana's body

1:10

is even more unprecedented

1:12

than Kevin Durant. Can we please do

1:15

a stat of the day with Mike Schur, who's

1:17

been running scared for a couple of days now,

1:20

and can we please walk Mike

1:22

off of the position? You can at any point

1:24

in the next many, many years

1:26

question whether or not giant, thin,

1:28

lanky guy is going to get hurt playing

1:30

basketball. It's not necessary

1:33

for you to do it on the very first day

1:35

that he becomes a professional in the

1:37

NBA. It's hyper-athletic,

1:39

skinny, lanky guy playing in a small

1:42

market. Maybe Porzingis gets hurt.

1:45

If this person is healthy, he will be great.

1:47

Maybe it'll be Zion.

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Not what I want to talk about today.

1:50

If he is healthy, I agree with LeBron. Certainly

1:55

since Luka. I was totally in love with Luka as a

1:57

prospect, but I think this is the

1:59

best prospect to answer. the NBA since

2:01

LeBron did, since LeBron did. Why

2:04

didn't you say that in the last segment? Well, because

2:06

everyone's saying that now, and you think it's

2:08

a time to be joyous, and here I go giving

2:12

you a hard dose of reality.

2:14

That Achilles looks like a little flimsy

2:16

to me. You were rooting for your team to

2:18

lose in the playing tournament to have

2:20

a 0.5% chance of getting the guy No,

2:23

no, no, he would say healthy here, because we play

2:26

in a major market and culture. Yeah,

2:28

culture. And the heat, too. Because

2:30

the culture, I forgot about the culture. Pelicans

2:32

got the 14th pick, by the way, Tony. If it was

2:34

the heat, though, if it was the heat, it would have been the normal pick.

2:37

Jeremy, can you explain to me,

2:39

Amin's been banned for a couple of segments

2:41

here, and we will get to a stat of the day with

2:43

this coward,

2:44

Mike Schur, who's not going to watch Celtics

2:46

Heat, not going to do watch parties

2:48

with us. I want to do a watch party, but he doesn't

2:50

want to watch the games. He's scared of the games. Jeremy,

2:54

Spurs and people

2:56

howling that all of that is rigged. When

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all of the ping pong balls, they had a 14% chance. And

3:02

what happened that suggests that

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all of the balls were going their way last night?

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Yeah, Fred Katz was in the room, and he

3:09

tweeted right after the draft lottery. Just emerged

3:12

from the drawing room of the lottery,

3:14

where San Antonio didn't just win the first

3:16

pick. Spurs got drawn two

3:18

more times in the lottery, so they

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had to redo multiple picks. Destiny

3:23

was on their side tonight, is how

3:25

the tweet ends. You know where I've seen this before? One of the

3:27

Oceans movies. I think it was 12, where

3:28

Bernie Mac has those dice-ity clicks, and then all

3:30

of a sudden they roll over snake eyes. That's

3:32

what's going on with these ping pong balls. There's something there that's

3:35

being magnetized up to the suction

3:37

cup thing. There's something wrong there.

3:39

What is it with you and magnets? This week

3:41

has been a weird week with Tony and magnets.

3:43

He had guns being having something

3:46

that was nice. Guys, I'm trying to speak from a spiritual

3:48

level, and you guys want to take everything as face value. I'm putting

3:50

myself in a listening posture. Thank

3:52

you. All I'm saying is that when you have something, it

3:55

attracts something, right? That's all I'm trying to say. Like

3:57

guns. Like guns, like

3:58

when you have a gun. You attract people

4:01

that have guns. It's just a magnetic force. Let's move

4:03

off of guns if you can I mean if you've watched

4:05

on wick though, he's right Let's do

4:07

the stat of the day with Mike sure,

4:09

but before we do that, I am genuinely

4:12

curious

4:14

Did you hear or think anything

4:16

different when it came to the silliness

4:18

involved with the John Moran controversy?

4:21

Where he seems to be risking substantive

4:24

things With with a an

4:26

immaturity level that I don't think

4:29

that a whole lot of people would defend

4:31

I all I know about that situation is I

4:33

am sure not qualified to speak on it I

4:35

don't think it's I don't think most people

4:37

should be speaking at it. I don't think it's

4:40

I don't it's

4:42

not obviously what you would consider to be

4:44

normal behavior. I don't know what's going on

4:46

there I don't want to speculate. I feel bad

4:48

for the guy. I feel bad for everybody

4:51

involved. I feel bad for his Hit

4:54

whatever's happening in his life. That's leading

4:56

him to these places Like it's

4:59

just a bummer man because there there

5:01

are

5:02

as someone who actually watches the NBA

5:04

I'll speak to the fact that

5:07

there are

5:08

maybe three guys in the league. It's more fun

5:10

to watch on a regular basis I've also watched

5:12

a lot of Memphis Grizzlies games and They

5:15

are he is so fun. He's so good.

5:17

He's so talented His future

5:19

is so bright and and it just bums me

5:21

out. It's just a very sad sad situation

5:24

I hope whatever is haunting

5:26

him

5:27

He can get a handle on because I want that guy

5:29

to be around for a long time and I want

5:31

that team to be Good that team was positioned

5:34

to be the new team. That was that

5:36

they were

5:37

You've said many times they were coming for

5:39

the Warriors. They were coming for the whole league They

5:42

were saying and it back

5:44

and he was saying back in whatever

5:46

was December that the only team he feared in the league

5:48

was the Celtics like we're good in the

5:50

West is a kind of an amazing thing to say

5:53

but he had the

5:54

skill to back it up and now it

5:57

just looks like it's kind of falling

5:58

apart if he doesn't If he doesn't

6:00

get a handle on whatever it is he needs to get a handle

6:02

on, this is going to be one of those really sad

6:05

stories of a guy whose ceiling was

6:07

impossibly high and he just never quite

6:10

figured out how to get there. So I

6:12

don't want to speculate or just talk

6:15

flippantly about a guy

6:17

who clearly has some stuff he's got to work through. I just

6:20

hope he works through it. As someone that doesn't

6:22

watch basketball and just woke up to Twitter every morning

6:24

after visiting the Hub,

6:26

I also realized that John Marant was pretty exciting.

6:29

Oh good.

6:30

Can I ask you this though Mike? As you say

6:32

I'm not comfortable commenting or I'm not

6:34

expert commenting on this. I saw the commissioner

6:37

of the league on a day of great celebration

6:39

of young people

6:41

be genuinely shocked

6:43

on television that he's talking

6:45

about this again. That John Marant

6:48

showed contrition and Adam Silver

6:50

is telling you he's just sitting there on television not like

6:52

he wasn't prepared for the question and he's

6:55

saying I saw this video and

6:57

I was genuinely shocked. The man who has said

6:59

I've got an unhappiness problem in my league,

7:02

my young players don't seem to be very

7:04

happy, Kyrie Irving they're connected to the internet

7:07

in a way that seems to be unhealthy for

7:09

young people that's being proven all over

7:11

the place. When you say you're not qualified

7:13

to talk about it, it feels like everyone's

7:16

talking about it including a commissioner

7:18

who's supposed to be progressive who's got to reach

7:20

across generations and cultures

7:22

to punish this kid who

7:26

is doing things that don't make sense to

7:28

many of us. Yeah well he has to

7:30

talk about it. It's his he runs the

7:32

league so there's a difference between him

7:34

and me obviously but

7:36

you know I think the I

7:38

agree with you it's he sounded genuinely

7:41

surprised and shocked. I would imagine that's

7:43

because of the conversation or

7:45

conversations plural that he had with

7:47

Jha and the team and everybody else

7:50

after the first one and the statement that Jha

7:52

made after the first time this happened I

7:55

think he probably thought he understood the situation,

7:57

had a handle on it

7:59

and then it wasn't gonna happen.

7:59

again and when it happened again or similar

8:01

thing happened again so quickly, I think

8:03

it probably was genuinely shocking and disappointing.

8:06

But yeah, look

8:08

again, this is not an interesting

8:10

or new point, but he's 23 years old. I

8:13

have a 15 year old and a 12 year old. We are only

8:15

beginning to find out

8:17

how the world and the pandemic

8:19

and the modern

8:21

culture and social media affects

8:23

young people. Like it's, we're books

8:26

and books

8:26

and books are going to be written about this for the next 50 years

8:29

about what it's doing to people's heads.

8:31

And when you have not only,

8:33

when

8:33

you're not like a normal kid, but an

8:36

extraordinary person who

8:38

grew up in this age and who has millions of

8:41

dollars in fame and talent

8:44

and the eyes of tens of

8:46

thousands of people resting

8:47

on you. Like it's a miracle

8:49

that more people his age

8:52

don't have serious problems that they're working through,

8:54

whatever they are. So I, I,

8:57

he did sound genuinely shocked.

8:59

I don't think he should be. I don't think anyone

9:01

should be

9:02

because I think that the world is a really

9:04

tough place to live for a, for a regular person.

9:07

And when you're an extraordinary person, I think it's 50,000

9:10

times as hard to grow up and exist

9:12

and keep your head on straight. So I don't know.

9:15

It's just, it makes me sad. The whole thing makes me sad.

9:25

This is the start of the day. Start

9:27

of the day, start of the day. It

9:30

is the start of the day, start

9:32

of the day, start of the day. It

9:35

is the start of the day.

9:50

You guys are really good at it. Segue. My

9:53

goal now, my goal, you say that

9:56

my goal is now to lure you into the trap of.

9:59

ending a thought with all of this

10:02

makes me very sad and then my dad dances

10:04

in singing a happy

10:06

jingle from the

10:08

1920s what is today's stat of the day Mike

10:10

sure know what to be clear I knew what

10:12

you were doing and it wasn't

10:14

confused about what you know I'm saying no I'm saying

10:16

my goal is to have every segment now

10:18

dead now now become that you can't trick

10:21

him Danny watches a lot of basketball I wish

10:26

I mean we're here for this but the

10:28

game that Nicole Yocha Chad

10:30

last night statistically has only happened

10:33

once before in the history of the NBA playoffs

10:35

that

10:35

was powder saw on April

10:37

20th 2008 against Denver

10:40

oh no wait hang on I'm sorry

10:42

the first half that you catch

10:44

had last night has only happened before in

10:47

an entire game in the playoffs

10:49

once before 1916 and 7 with two blocks

10:53

on 70% shooting that has only happened

10:55

once before in an entire game and it was last

10:57

night Nicole the Oakett in the first half

10:59

his full game 34 21 14 in two blocks

11:03

is obviously never been done before in

11:05

a playoff game or regular season game

11:07

no one has ever had the NBA

11:09

game that he had last night also according

11:12

to stat news yokich is the

11:14

first player in the history with multiple 30

11:17

2010 playoff games he's one of only four

11:19

people with five 30-point triple

11:22

doubles in the playoffs that's LeBron Oscar

11:24

Robertson Russ and now yokich also

11:28

two side notes here the most 2010

11:30

five playoff games by an active player LeBron

11:32

has 91 the next three

11:35

guys combined have 74 but

11:37

I think my favorite stat from the game courtesy

11:40

of Jeff Van Gundy there

11:42

were two centers in the game last night

11:45

they were 404 from three

11:47

yokich was three of three and Anthony

11:51

Davis was one for one we

11:53

will let you go on that note yes

11:56

I will say this for the record that

11:58

that is

11:59

an unprecedented game. Also, it's what he

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Don Lebatard. Amino acid.

13:13

Stugats. Amino acid. This

13:15

is the Don Lebatard Show with the

13:17

Stugats.

13:23

It's legitimately unfortunate

13:26

right now that Amino has in our basketball

13:28

expert.

13:29

The guy from a

13:31

front office who really knows

13:33

and has taught us a great deal about

13:35

basketball has been sent

13:38

away for a penalty, a penalty of

13:40

multiple

13:40

segments because he said the

13:42

sentence Zion

13:45

or some form of the sentence Zion looks.

13:47

I've seen him eat a pelican, which

13:50

is not good commentary. It's not clever.

13:52

It's not interesting. It's fat shaming

13:54

and it wasn't helpful in any way. He's right

13:56

though. Should

14:03

I join him? You've

14:06

done enough. Your punishment is

14:08

to now stay in work. Sorry. Well

14:11

I'm frustrated by both of you for

14:13

a number of different reasons. What did I do? Other

14:16

than almost burn the building down and everything?

14:19

Burn everything down other than that? I

14:21

mean it's not my fault I was told to place

14:24

my cigarette butts in that little tray

14:26

and that's what I've been doing. We were also told long ago

14:28

that this is a no-smoking building. That's

14:30

a fair point Mike. Can't even argue

14:33

it. What have I done? You've actively

14:35

tried it every turn metaphorically and otherwise

14:37

to burn everything down. And

14:40

then there's Amin

14:41

who flies in and wasn't even

14:43

available early in the show. Why? Because his

14:45

back hurts and we've got a masseuse around

14:47

here. And

14:50

he just missed multiple segments on Company

14:52

Dime and we are investing in all

14:54

of this. Like we're creating monsters.

14:57

Just monsters.

14:59

I just want one back. I mean. I

15:03

got matched during Spencer Hall so.

15:06

What's going on around here? A tree

15:08

person? A masseuse? I mean geez.

15:11

And we're surprised though that people aren't available

15:13

for their expertise and break

15:16

no smoking rules and threaten

15:18

to burn down everything because they

15:21

just take and take and take and break

15:23

all the rules and don't listen to the rules and don't

15:25

work when they're supposed to. Is this what was

15:28

going on at Vice?

15:30

How Vice went from

15:32

being worth a lot of, like we've got the potential

15:34

to make a lot of money. Did you see what McAfee did?

15:36

Walked away from a hundred and twenty million dollar deal.

15:39

Like there's a lot of money out there. Walked away because

15:41

it wasn't enough. And he's allowed to say the S word

15:43

on ESPN. Yeah.

15:47

Soccer.

15:48

No,

15:51

that's still third rail over there. It's

15:53

certainly not allowed, especially during their daytime

15:56

programming. There's a rule. Only

15:58

football, no football.

15:59

Yeah, not on that show. The greatest

16:02

thing about Pat McAfee is he's super

16:04

charismatic. People really like him. He's

16:07

he's good at almost everything that he's done. In

16:09

fact, he's made seven figures in every

16:11

job that he's done. But I believe his dream was to be a soccer

16:13

player and like everything else and

16:16

has been a pivot. Put it on the pole, please. Has

16:18

McAfee failed because he wanted

16:20

to be a soccer player? Has Pat McAfee failed?

16:24

Do it on the pitch. I

16:27

wanted to talk a little bit about that

16:29

deal for a number of different reasons

16:32

because I'm really happy for him

16:34

and have been a little startled

16:38

by the number of people by merely

16:41

signing with ESPN who assume

16:44

that he will change, will be contaminated,

16:46

will get corporate. And

16:48

it doesn't pay attention to

16:51

a couple of things.

16:52

One, he's

16:54

not going to hit any of the rails that this show would

16:56

have. This show, Disney

16:59

made decisions after George Floyd and

17:02

didn't know how to handle any of the things

17:04

that were wrought by George Floyd.

17:07

And so we then left. And

17:09

McAfee is not going to spend a lot of

17:11

time getting them in trouble there. And

17:14

furthermore,

17:15

I've told you already about this, that

17:17

all of the focus groups show. Every

17:21

time I ran into a clash that had sparks

17:23

with ESPN, I was told

17:25

about the focus groups that said,

17:27

people do not want whatever is

17:30

filed under politics, whatever that

17:32

is,

17:33

don't want it with this.

17:35

That's not going to be a problem for him. And also

17:38

on the front end, he's coming in with maximum

17:40

value and leverage and he's made his deal above

17:43

Pitaro,

17:44

above the president of ESPN. His

17:46

deal has been made with Iger

17:49

who realizes, and this is one of the things that

17:51

I was told at every turn, ESPN

17:53

is going to make a digital investment.

17:56

Dan, stick it out. Stick it out. ESPN

17:58

Plus is going to be a big.

17:59

thing but I was

18:03

telling people at ESPN hey if you

18:05

want a silly three-hour thing that doesn't

18:07

respect anything to put on ESPN 2

18:09

we'll do it here for you you just got to leave

18:12

us alone

18:13

and they didn't want to do it then

18:15

but they want to do it now and they're giving

18:17

him carte blanche for him to walk

18:20

away from a hundred and twenty million dollar

18:22

deal he's doing it for the reach he's gonna

18:24

be on ESPN he's gonna be on ESPN plus

18:26

he's gonna be on ESPN YouTube he's gonna

18:28

grow his thing and he's done it perfectly done

18:31

it so well he did not go for

18:33

the deal they wanted to give him of be

18:35

there every week grinding it out he's like

18:37

no thank you not gonna do it that way

18:40

come back to me when you guys are

18:42

ready to give me the deal I want which

18:44

is money and I'm gonna use

18:46

your reach for me they

18:50

didn't want to do that with us because

18:52

this show does some

18:54

things that are uncomfortable

18:56

in headlines

18:58

and

18:59

he gets the benefit of

19:01

having the corporate partner that is

19:03

the biggest of the Disney

19:06

things

19:07

he's dealing with Iger and

19:09

I don't know why people assume that

19:11

Disney's now gonna spoil it when he's telling

19:14

you McAfee's telling you on the front end they promised me

19:16

they are not gonna change this thing they

19:18

will not touch it they will let me do it the way

19:20

that I've done it he's gonna end up I will tell you

19:22

what's gonna happen he's gonna get uncomfortable when he steps

19:25

in a couple of times and they ask him for apologies

19:27

on whatever whatever the whatever

19:29

the thing is whatever the silly thing

19:31

of the moment that causes headlines is

19:34

but he'll be able to navigate that because he's coming

19:36

in with you're not changing this

19:38

under any

19:39

circumstances and he's got support from

19:41

the top of Disney I

19:43

would find it hard to believe that a person

19:45

would walk away from a hundred and twenty

19:48

million dollars if he didn't get

19:50

the deal exactly the way he

19:52

wants the deal to be I would find

19:54

that nearly impossible to fathom and this

19:56

is you don't know the sacrifices you're making until

19:59

you're making them

19:59

You don't know what the job is until you're actually

20:02

doing it, but I would ask all of you What

20:05

is it because I am genuinely curious about this.

20:07

Why is it that you assume? That

20:10

you make the assumption

20:13

Well, espn is gonna screw this up

20:15

pat mackafee will not be allowed to

20:18

be the same thing That

20:20

he's always been he's sold

20:22

out He is sold out to corporate.

20:25

It can't ever be the same

20:28

thing Why the eagerness to assume

20:30

that we've lived it and I don't assume it

20:32

We I lived it like that some of that you don't

20:34

feel like our show changed at all But we went from

20:37

local to espn i'm just asking I don't think

20:39

so either No, look i'll tell you what the changes

20:41

were the changes were Mike

20:43

got buried in sparks trying to protect

20:46

us from whatever it was That

20:48

didn't understand our show didn't care to understand

20:50

it and allowed it to exist over there But

20:52

didn't support it that way like didn't

20:55

if it had been supported that way Hey be on

20:57

espn be on espn plus be on espn

20:59

youtube We couldn't be trusted

21:01

to

21:02

be supported that way We did dunk

21:04

lebitard one time and mike

21:06

was on his knees on the floor being brought to check

21:09

and it was a disaster You did show

21:11

up late after a night of drinking with ron mcgill We

21:14

couldn't be trusted there. Yeah, I

21:16

guess it's a royal we

21:18

Well,

21:20

we're all in this together for better You

21:22

show them to the f-word which is

21:24

the one word that even pat mack if he can't say

21:26

so Yeah, good

21:29

times. I mean he does a show that's closer

21:31

to espn sensibilities That's

21:34

a smart guy. That's a smart guy and he's

21:36

he's got the term and people don't necessarily come to his show

21:39

for that we and You

21:42

venture into more of those topics. I mean

21:44

just look at our guest list over the last month That's

21:47

not really what

21:48

pat mack a few shows pat mack a few show

21:50

is a charismatic host An

21:52

ensemble cast a good hang. No

21:55

one's gonna make you feel bad about

21:56

what you may believe in and

21:59

It's not really about challenging

22:02

you, it's about giving you incredible access to

22:04

guests that are super comfortable, and

22:06

it's the industry leader in digital video, and

22:08

this is a lot like how Disney operates, even though

22:10

they're branding in itself, and YouTube has,

22:12

I think, nine million subscribers. They're

22:15

not really this big digital video monster

22:17

when it comes to original content, if we're

22:19

taking ESPN Plus and live game rights

22:22

out of the way. So what do they do?

22:24

They get the YouTube attraction. They

22:26

get the YouTube show, and now all of a sudden, ESPN

22:29

can call themselves an industry leader in

22:31

this space. They had that with

22:33

podcasts. They decided that they're gonna punt on podcasts

22:36

altogether, and right now, the pivot is to digital

22:38

video, and Pat McAfee, and he's gonna

22:40

be, as he said, the tip of the spear on

22:42

that. Credit to him, it's incredible. Stu

22:44

Gatz, though, I would ask you, right, if not,

22:47

I'd like to talk

22:47

to both our audience and his audience

22:50

when I say this, okay?

22:52

If, as a business proposition,

22:56

I understand that

22:58

Disney told us in some forms to get

23:00

out

23:03

and now welcomes anything while

23:06

firing all sorts of employees. Here's

23:09

whatever millions of dollars a year. We're

23:11

gonna get rid of all of ESPN

23:13

Radio's production people and everything else.

23:16

We're gonna have to fire people because Disney has to fire

23:18

people, but Disney is also going to pay

23:20

millions and millions of dollars for

23:22

this one thing that they didn't build and have to

23:25

give it freedom when I could be hurt or

23:27

we could be hurt by, hey,

23:28

we were right over here. We could have done that for

23:30

you, for millions and millions of dollars. The

23:33

part that I wanted to ask you, because I

23:35

run into this some now with Billy Corbin and Because

23:37

Miami, and the cost of

23:39

costing yourself listeners,

23:42

the cost of it, as go

23:44

woke, go broke. I've

23:47

seen our audience, some of the things we've

23:49

done simply by platforming

23:51

a couple of drag performers

23:53

or politicians fighting for trans rights.

23:56

It's not even making an argument. It's just

23:58

platforming.

23:59

Bye bye guys, bye,

24:02

gone after 20 years. Yeah,

24:04

that's the cost. I know, I'm

24:06

choosing it. That's the cost

24:09

for, and I'd argue, it's not politics,

24:12

just decency, just equality, that's

24:14

the platform I'm running on. But what's the cost?

24:17

Well McAfee gets the platform now.

24:19

That's the cost. That was our platform.

24:23

That's the cost. I miss that platform.

24:26

I know. Desperately. Don't

24:28

miss the people. Miss the platform

24:31

though. Platform. And the reach. And

24:33

just the access. The tickets.

24:36

And just being able to explain to people, wait, what is

24:38

it that you do? Oh, I work for ESPN, it's a lot

24:40

less complicated. No, I used to work for ESPN

24:42

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Lebotard. Were you guys building out

25:50

the A-Rod bathroom of your imaginations?

25:52

Is that what I heard you discussing during the break?

25:55

Towels with an A on them. You know the thing you slide

25:57

the toilet paper on? That's a baseball bat.

26:00

Hey, like

26:02

that. Stugats. You think he actually

26:04

calls it the throne? Probably does.

26:07

It's an actual throne. An actual throne?

26:09

There's got to be a full-length mirror in there

26:12

somewhere. I imagine somewhere in his house

26:14

he has a replica of David, but

26:16

with his head on it. This

26:19

is the Dunlibitar Show with the

26:21

Stugats. A

26:25

couple of movies are being remade

26:27

that I don't think need to be

26:29

remade. And I'm guessing, I

26:32

don't know this for sure, that Tony,

26:35

our resident,

26:36

ignorant young person, might

26:39

not have familiarity with

26:41

either one of the movies.

26:44

I am willing to be proven wrong, but I'm always

26:46

surprised by what the

26:48

generational gulf brings.

26:52

Beetlejuice is being

26:54

remade. No, false. It's

26:57

a sequel. We're not remaking it. We're

26:59

bringing back original cast, original characters,

27:02

beloved characters, and advancing

27:04

on the story Tim Burton told us several

27:06

years ago. It is going to include

27:09

Michael Keaton and Willem Dafoe

27:12

and Justin Theroux and Winona Ryder.

27:15

You're right. It is not being remade.

27:17

It is a sequel being rebooted 30 years

27:20

later or however long it is. Do you know the

27:22

movie I'm speaking of, Tony? Beetlejuice

27:24

is the guy in the kind of zebra suit.

27:28

He's either some sort of zombie or goblin

27:31

or demon of some sort. It's a ghoul. A

27:33

ghoul? Okay. He

27:35

was

27:35

close. Yes. He's an

27:38

undead character. A ghoul is fine. Roy making

27:40

a clarification there that I think is important. You couldn't

27:42

make on with me on zombie, right? No, but it's not. Two

27:45

different things. He's not a zombie.

27:46

He's not a zombie. Roy

27:48

is, but there's not the ghoul genre.

27:52

Not doing a lot these days.

27:53

No, we'd agree, right? Like

27:55

when Roy gets in there and says he's a ghoul,

27:58

put it on the poll please Juju at Lebateau.

27:59

show is Beetlejuice a

28:02

ghoul he called himself the ghost

28:04

with the most so he's just

28:07

like a mischievous ghoul

28:09

that gets into trouble in hijinks ensue how

28:11

are you saying that word ghoul no

28:13

mischievous mischievous I like mischievous

28:18

the other movie that is being remade Mike are

28:20

you exciting I'm sorry for am I excited

28:23

for Beetlejuice too well absolutely

28:25

can I get a synopsis of what the movie is actually about

28:27

or did I hit nail it with just like hijinks ensue yeah

28:29

it's a ghoul in hijinks ensue yeah it's a comedy

28:32

it's a comedy this young couple moves into

28:34

a New England home they

28:37

find themselves deceased

28:39

and having to walk them yeah

28:42

they have to find their way through the underworld

28:44

meanwhile they're coping with the fact that this new

28:47

family has moved into their home because they've lost

28:49

their lives and they're not capable of being scary

28:51

ghosts so they hire a mercenary ghost

28:54

the ghost with the most and

28:56

he tortures everybody and hilarity

28:58

but is he is he a ghost or is he ghouls

29:00

he's the ghost with the most ghost

29:03

the most well but Roy this would make this

29:05

would make you wrong let me let me look at the the

29:07

difference between he's a ghost on a ghoul

29:09

ghost is not a ghoul what are the clarifications

29:12

put this on another difference between a ghost and

29:14

a goblin Juju put this on

29:16

the pole please do you know the difference between

29:19

a ghost and a ghost

29:21

and a ghoul do you know the difference between

29:24

a ghost and a goblin nothing and do you know

29:26

the difference between a ghost and a goose go

29:29

ahead and have at it with all of those

29:31

because I don't know the difference between a ghost

29:34

and a ghoul but there is a difference

29:36

and I thought Roy was right in calling Beetlejuice

29:39

to a ghoul but not if Beetlejuice is

29:41

saying he's at the ghost with the most

29:43

which you might just be saying a ghoul is an undead

29:45

monster which eats human flesh like

29:48

a zombie what's a goon to a goblin

29:51

wait a minute the ghoul is the same as the zombie

29:53

so Tony is right after all that

29:55

the ghoul is the same as the zombie it's

29:57

akin to a god but what's

29:59

God to a non-believer. That's

30:02

a good question. Don't believe in anything.

30:06

Tony found God this week and it might have been a ghoul,

30:08

might have been a ghost, might have been a goose. Luckily

30:10

not a goblin though. But super excited for Beetlejuice

30:13

too because we get to see what's happened to these characters.

30:15

Winona Ryder's character has

30:17

a child. He'll be played by Jenna Ortega

30:20

and also Tim Burton still continuing

30:22

the wonderful tradition of casting his girlfriends

30:25

in movies. Monica Baluchi will also be

30:27

in this. Should I be disturbed at

30:29

all

30:30

that my wife, my lovely wife Valerie,

30:33

loved the leftovers with Justin Thoreau

30:35

and Justin Thoreau spent that entire show. It's a

30:37

beautiful, beautiful show. But he spent

30:39

it nude

30:40

and with, you know, he's got a hard

30:43

body. Should I be disturbed

30:45

at all that every time Justin

30:47

Thoreau

30:48

makes an appearance on screen, including

30:50

and never more so than in White House Plumbers,

30:53

my wife shouts, mustache rides.

30:56

Hello. Get that one

30:59

checked out there, Dan. I have the same reaction. As

31:02

do I. I think in leftovers

31:04

there, I believe there is a scene where

31:07

he has the same reaction. I believe there's

31:09

a dream sequenced scene where he's

31:11

nude a lot and

31:14

she seems to enjoy that and so do I. He's

31:17

a very good looking man. I mean, he is. He's beautiful.

31:19

When you have a soft body and you see

31:22

somebody with a hard body, you're like, huh? Yeah.

31:24

I don't have that. I don't have that particular equipment. You're

31:26

like, I'd like that. I'm not a fan of tattoo

31:28

on his back though. They look,

31:31

we've normalized for character for we've

31:33

normalized chastising

31:36

athletes for performance enhancers. But

31:38

come on.

31:38

Oh, how'd you get this body for this role? We

31:41

all know it's always right. The intro

31:43

and Royds and human growth.

31:45

I always just assume it's like just this trainer

31:47

that they hire for six months that like

31:50

make that cooks all their food for them. It is.

31:52

And also human growth hormone. And

31:55

also whatever that was, that injection you

31:57

were telling me that all the celebrities were stealing

31:59

from the dump.

31:59

Diabetics to lose weight. No post Malone just

32:02

stopped drinking soda as he called it, but

32:04

what what a zimp pick is that what it's called? Yeah,

32:06

it was epic

32:08

Also

32:09

on the movie front moving away

32:11

from Beetlejuice and Beetlejuice to Michael

32:14

J Fox He's got a new documentary

32:17

on Apple that I have not seen yet that I'm looking forward

32:19

to seeing but evidently he was asked the

32:21

other Day about a remake of back

32:23

to the future and his response was

32:26

they could do what they want. I've already been paid

32:28

for it

32:29

Now that's a movie I'm in on dano the trilogy incredible

32:31

I love back to the future But is it a remake

32:33

or is it is it gonna be like the fourth installment?

32:36

Oh, yeah, that would be a remake unless they want

32:38

to

32:39

do the nostalgia play. So there's like

32:41

these soft reboots that

32:43

are Reboots, but

32:45

also harken back and

32:47

it's cannon the previous I think the

32:49

Paul Rudd Ghostbusters vehicle was

32:51

essentially a reboot for the franchise But

32:54

the older characters from

32:56

the original Ghostbusters franchise

32:58

were in it and were cannon So people

33:01

try to do that and then there's but

33:03

also I believe the failed Ghostbusters

33:06

sequel with the old woman cast also

33:08

tried this a reboot and still

33:10

inside the universe and Sometimes you

33:12

have mixed results and either of those two

33:14

were very good by any stretch in the imagination

33:17

Tony being all in on back to the future is

33:19

something I never would have had. I love back

33:21

to the future Love time

33:23

travel. I can see ya. I love that. It's one

33:26

of my favorite movies just cuz of time travel No,

33:28

no, just because it's the entire movie like the premise

33:30

means with me on this one whenever he gets into town We'll talk to

33:32

him about it, but I love back to the future. It's

33:35

it's just weird It's you never know like your

33:37

reaction of Beetlejuice I think Beetlejuice

33:39

maybe not to the level of back

33:41

to the future but culturally

33:44

Beetlejuice, I mean it had a Saturday morning

33:46

cartoon It it's

33:48

often called back around Halloween time

33:51

Hell Henry Harry Belafonte is not

33:53

looked at the same way without it Beetlejuice

33:55

has a more enduring legacy than back to the

33:58

future. I said it's not that I love it But

34:00

I do think that Beetlejuice has an enduring legacy

34:02

for sure. There's no way What do you know about

34:05

Beetlejuice anything inside of there outside of like

34:07

oh? It's just the character and all that

34:09

bunch of people singing around a dinner table I

34:11

just said it had a Saturday morning cartoon.

34:13

I've actually certain age I've gone back

34:15

to the movie theaters I went to the movie theaters a

34:18

year and a half ago to watch To watch

34:20

Beetlejuice have like a second

34:22

run in the movie theaters around Halloween nothing has

34:24

more staying power than 1.21 gigawatts I

34:27

actually think Beetlejuice is aged a lot

34:29

better then back to the future because The

34:32

future is our past by quite a bit

34:34

and it paints this very ridiculous

34:36

view of the future That it's not even

34:38

here to this day outside of Donald Trump's presidency.

34:41

How do we feel about the white men can't jump? That's

34:44

a re-make right? Nope

34:46

no is that a show or a movie? It's on

34:48

Hulu right? It comes out on Hulu, but not in theaters

34:50

I thought it was a show I mean a movie

34:52

That's I think they're remaking it, but they're not me remaking

34:55

it for theaters Does that make a difference that you're

34:57

remaking it for a streaming service? He

35:00

seems like a nice guy, and he makes me laugh occasionally,

35:02

but I'm out on Jack Harlow Oh, you don't

35:04

get to use a clear just yeah Because

35:06

he dropped like a stinker of an album that

35:09

album Stunk and the whole industry

35:11

got behind it so much so like they admit

35:13

that it was a stinker Because he came out

35:15

with another album like right away

35:17

right away, and he was a pretty decent host

35:19

of Saturday Night Live I find him charming

35:22

But I do kind of feel like they're shoving him down my throat

35:24

is this like a remake or like a reimagining

35:27

of white men can't jump

35:29

It is I believe the

35:31

same story told with different actors

35:33

I don't believe it's going to be a different story.

35:36

I mean between this and house party I'm out

35:38

on these reboots I was out on house party because

35:40

of all the gratuitous shots. I took at the Miami Heat of

35:44

Course yeah, it was bullshit I

35:46

mean in LeBron's behind this film a

35:49

producer haven't taken potshots

35:51

in Miami you've won two in Miami

35:53

That's half of your MBA. What I go

35:55

out, but what is the distinction you're making

35:57

between? Reimaging reimagining

35:59

Well, it's like Fresh Prince versus Bel Air,

36:02

right? Like, Bel Air is retelling the story,

36:04

but from a dramatic side, where Fresh Prince

36:07

was more of a comedy, right, or

36:09

like a sitcom. So I'm trying to figure out,

36:11

are they doing the exact same story exactly

36:13

the same way with different people, or are they retelling

36:15

the story? Like, I haven't seen Bel Air. Has anyone seen

36:17

Bel Air? Is it good? I've always wanted to watch it, but

36:19

never did. Like, is Jack Harlow's girlfriend going

36:21

to be on Jeopardy?

36:23

That's what I need to know. Well, the thing

36:25

that Michael J. Fox is saying, he's

36:27

saying we told the story correctly.

36:30

You don't need to tell it again, but I've already

36:32

been paid. Do whatever it is that you want.

36:35

Couldn't the truth be, couldn't the same thing be said

36:37

of white men can't jump? Like, that's

36:39

enough. The story was told,

36:42

that's a Wesley Snipes, Woody Harrelson,

36:44

Rosie Perez vehicle. No other actors

36:46

are going to be able to do that.

36:48

Especially since it was such a seminal

36:50

moment in pop culture, too, where

36:53

pickup games and just that culture,

36:55

I guess, were

36:57

more a part of the cultural zeitgeist.

37:00

I don't really know

37:01

where this movie fits in.

37:04

I just don't get it. This

37:06

is one of those instances where I would tell the audience,

37:08

watch the original.

37:09

It's kind of like when they remade Vacation with Ed

37:12

Helms. You're like, OK, I like Ed Helms,

37:14

but like, come on. The worst

37:16

example, I think, ever was Point Break. Nobody

37:18

was asking for a remake. And they just totally

37:21

ruined it. It's one of the worst movies ever. Is anyone asking for a remake

37:23

on Back to the Future?

37:25

I think that's got plenty of money to it.

37:28

By the way, Michael J. Fox, if you really don't care, you know

37:30

what you say? Nothing. If you say something, you

37:32

care.

37:32

Is that right? That's right. It's a

37:34

good point. He's got a point. If he doesn't care, don't say anything.

37:37

But he was asked? Nah. OK. That's

37:39

one of those things you set up. You're like, hey, ask me this question so I can get my comment

37:41

out there. So you have him saying, hey, ask me

37:43

about this thing. Totally set up, yeah. Man.

37:46

OK, you're going to take the stand. Someone's just walking around

37:49

asking Michael J. Fox questions. Well, he's probably being interviewed.

37:51

About what?

37:52

His life? I mean, he's got a doc coming. He does

37:54

have a doc. It's a documentary, yeah. And he's

37:56

had an interesting life. Switch is covered on Cinephiles.

37:59

The only doc I care about.

37:59

is Doc Brown at a boy Doc

38:02

Rivers when I was the future

38:04

I couldn't this was Blake's fault this time 88 miles

38:07

an hour Marty I don't

38:09

understand why Billy insists

38:13

on taking the lane

38:15

alone

38:16

alone there's no one else on this road less traveled

38:19

the road not traveled by anyone else

38:21

you know what I'm gonna do I'm gonna go

38:23

after Michael J Fox when we're going

38:26

there are no roads

38:30

of the day

38:37

check this out Yoko Chaz at the point you got

38:39

a shoot it does for three Davis

38:49

says something to go to Davis goes

38:52

to the benches laughing that was

38:55

thought out stupid right there

38:57

that thing hit the top

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green and the punch

42:00

First of all, the

42:02

player in the past that reminds

42:04

me or that joker reminds me of

42:07

just does it unless you

42:09

see it, you don't understand it because

42:11

Tim Duncan, he was just, you know, bla-zi-bla,

42:14

but he put up highlights and he

42:16

was good. Nobody could keep up with him, but

42:18

he didn't look fast. He didn't really have

42:20

that flash, but he was great. Yep.

42:23

You know, and then second of

42:25

all, and to find out that

42:27

that was his favorite player growing up makes

42:29

total sense. Second

42:32

of all, though, scary situation.

42:35

We know the owners like to spend money and

42:37

they don't care about the tax, you

42:40

know, the cap tax. What

42:43

if they get rid of pool, bring

42:46

in Damien and...

42:48

They're not, that's not happening.

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That's not happening. And if you're Dame Lillard,

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and I thought Portland was going to win the lottery, it's

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like, oh, they're going to be in the top three.

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I thought we nailed it yesterday. I know, like I had

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a dream Portland's winning. And then

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all of a sudden it's like, they went to commercial break,

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they came back and they go in with the third pick

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at the Portland. That's an exciting three

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minutes. I know it was, it was,

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but I thought, okay, but

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you're going to get a really good player at three. I

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feel bad for the Pistons because

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they were really bad. And then they don't

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even get into the top three. They finished

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fifth in the lottery.

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They had five fewer wins than

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the Spurs did. Yikes.

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What about Greg Popovich? He's 74,

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I think. Now you bring

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in Victor Wambayama.

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How much longer you want to coach? Coach.

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One hour in the books, two more to go. Reggie Miller

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will stop by as well in a little bit.

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When you save on auto insurance for driving

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safe with USA safe pilot, you'll

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feel like a big deal.