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urban meyer was that moral law don't

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gap because i want to talk about what happened

1:13

this weekend with kelsey grammer swells

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kelsey grammer frazier was at mara

1:17

lago and a lot of people were shocked by this

1:19

and probably caught not me but

1:23

one of the great joys of what

1:25

is happening these days in

1:27

just everyone fighting with everyone

1:30

else is somebody shows up it

1:33

takes a picture with two

1:35

women like kelsey grammer does and

1:38

don the internet in a way that i learned

1:40

things by graphically about grammar

1:43

that i didn't know just by following

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the

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i had no idea that you produce girlfriends

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i'd , idea that that was so i

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didn't know that he proud produce the color purple

1:56

i also didn't know

1:58

that he was accused by that's why

1:59

i'm i'm doing a good

2:02

leaping i believe a fifteen year old baby sitter

2:06

learned about kelsey grammar is

2:09

our career as people were

2:11

saying you haven't had don't

2:13

think you can say that about him his past

2:15

also i learnt couple of half brothers

2:17

died in a school the lost his

2:19

mom i think and the

2:22

sister and his father to murders

2:25

what's yeah this is what i'm like

2:27

i'm the biography as a guy

2:29

shows up

2:32

you show up at this party you're saying

2:34

something about yourself to

2:36

the world our appreciative

2:38

of urban meyer's bill belichick a

2:42

law

2:44

iran and be were like hey know

2:48

they're do some

2:53

having talked about that they manage the

2:56

amazing things about the patriot way the

2:59

place that had a murderer

3:02

on , roster has had a lot of scandals

3:06

scandals twenty years of damage

3:08

twenty two years of dominance that

3:11

is unseen

3:13

and just

3:15

, in the modern age as

3:18

good an organization as you have ever seen

3:20

in the age

3:22

spotlight you don't get to be private

3:24

you don't keep opinions to yourself

3:26

and if there's going to ask you

3:28

about it super famous and

3:31

yet you , don't know

3:33

where bella check him brady stand on much of

3:35

anything and somehow he goes the same parties

3:37

that kelsey grammer an urban meyer go to

3:39

and it doesn't doesn't doesn't land

3:41

the same way about what it is that you're saying

3:43

about yourself and he doesn't have to explain himself

3:46

just day somehow it just

3:48

day is a marvel when you think about how much

3:50

has changed in the world about fame

3:54

years and if these two guys have been able

3:56

to keep that private and no matter how close

3:58

we want to get any of it the

4:00

control the contents with gotham

4:02

chopra and his wife telling you the search oprah

4:04

telling you the story the way they want to tell you it's

4:07

you don't know how these guys feel about anything for real

4:09

they've been able to hide behind the curtain of the patriot

4:11

way and we won't know unless

4:13

they decide to tell us that either it really is

4:16

something to behold i may brady was a

4:18

hat ripe which is that anywhere

4:20

my grandma's even there but the

4:23

know you know how you know how this of and scolds

4:25

any it's it's

4:28

amazing that those two

4:30

guys like they haven't been swat

4:32

ever just swallowed come here we got swallowed

4:35

like that no

4:38

was gonna look like all , that

4:40

and and i'm not saying

4:42

that brady belgium

4:44

we don't they

4:47

check

4:48

we don't know much about them they have shown

4:50

us nothing and i can't believe the been able

4:52

to do

4:54

just awed

4:56

by it is it just go into the property

4:59

years ago and of the property when donald

5:01

trump is there because

5:03

, feels like a a

5:05

a co a i remember when

5:07

required to the in event immoral lago first

5:09

friend herschel walker like herschel yeah

5:13

that one that one's been happening to a

5:15

lot spins i can't believe

5:17

in have arrived in my fifties with my

5:19

relationship with sports and

5:21

you've heard it over the years be like

5:23

i'm not emotional by any list of it's off

5:26

storytelling content nonsense

5:28

let's have fonts in the circus can you believe

5:30

we get to do any of this as an adult

5:33

male to be disappointed like i'm a child

5:35

by my heroes like a month somebody would

5:37

baseball cards and a my bicycle

5:40

spokesman like ah bicycle spokesman preserve

5:43

dame it's a

5:45

sentiment frazier as dame it's

5:49

a fan of his day with this is the

5:51

stuff we're talking about have to do so

5:54

we just talked about this i don't know

5:56

any more like

5:57

to appreciate your want

6:00

to be the person who unemotional he says care

6:03

is it

6:05

i've been saying that about athletes forever

6:08

i didn't give them your heroes raise your own kids

6:10

like

6:10

models don't

6:13

, do that are just people who happened

6:15

to you know catch balls

6:17

girls girls changed

6:19

everything though in this country i'm thinking a growing

6:21

up and took a generation

6:24

ago two generations ago if

6:26

you were a jimmy carter motor

6:29

in in an athlete would said

6:31

to be at a ronald reagan party

6:34

it was it'll it was not a new

6:36

stories divide

6:39

that trump created and and he

6:41

did created it was never like this in

6:43

my lifetime until trump

6:45

took office and since and since

6:48

i'm busy the man

6:50

it is that it's not the athletes

6:53

how trump is poll

6:55

the

6:55

there are many parts of it

6:58

better amazing and one of them is

7:00

that brady and belichick in

7:02

the age of we know everything about

7:04

your were up in your business and privacy

7:06

is an illusion everywhere

7:09

, the phone that might be tracking you

7:11

privacy

7:13

it

7:15

at the very top of sports celebrity

7:17

and transcendent public

7:19

name knowing in this country representing

7:22

and seem to call the patriots

7:24

even that phrase is something that will

7:26

argue about as or even afraid patriots

7:29

mean

7:30

now

7:31

if they would be at

7:34

the center of america's most popular

7:36

sport that they would old cigarette

7:39

be smarter and better the one else

7:41

fighting him and gloria him

7:44

arena and they got to keep their

7:46

politics to themselves

7:48

and they

7:50

got it

7:51

politics to themselves and

7:53

this is the one i always notice can

7:56

when you've made

7:58

your money large

7:59

li with the help of

8:02

black friends teammates employees

8:04

colleague

8:05

the huddle that's , trump

8:08

divide where i

8:10

look at lou holtz an urban meyer

8:12

and unlike and you're

8:14

endorsing a candidate here who is

8:17

actively fomenting racism

8:19

and fomenting racism liked matter we need any help

8:21

for it to be interface was been brought

8:24

to the forefront and now you've

8:26

got a far right that is inherited

8:28

a poem the it is now based

8:31

on hate the minutes ever been and

8:33

the racism no others

8:35

are bad they're coming for the white stuff the whites

8:37

are threatened

8:39

the just threatened that's

8:41

, overt and in your face than it's than

8:43

it's ever ever been

8:46

and somehow bells second brady lips

8:48

sealed in his urban meyer is

8:51

it endorsement of you just show up

8:53

like lou holtz did like campaigning

8:56

he was like on the rnc floor is

8:58

obermeyer campaigning for

9:00

them degrees of that already

9:02

going up there like if a former president

9:04

invites you to a soiree i'm

9:06

just interested check this out anything the

9:08

benefit of doubt i'll be honest he was this is all

9:11

about other more accomplishment i'd it's all

9:13

but i went to a wedding the a fatter at the

9:15

trump or our property is part of the wedding

9:17

present i want to go there didn't

9:19

want to have to go there help with are no

9:21

i couldn't say no to the what i don't want to be disrespectful

9:24

but i i i , to go

9:26

to this wedding that's different though than a party

9:29

party didn't have as if we the golf course but i did

9:31

graduate just shown up to our

9:33

hotel with his name his know exactly

9:36

i did have a guilty conscience about playing

9:38

playing golf course and then i saw and former athlete

9:41

who hosted obama for athlete fundraiser

9:43

at his home also playing the same guy they're

9:46

adding a better the only

9:49

, five gay going over elaborate about

9:51

the are certainly

9:53

like to over think things would

9:56

become wearying to over think

9:58

on oil was my decision made

9:59

i was exhausted make sure it in

10:02

his book talks about moral fatigue

10:04

and , like i've i feel like

10:07

i voted for the right person feel like i use a platform

10:09

to speak against this do why

10:11

not go to this wedding on some principal

10:14

do i not order a cocktail with this a logo

10:16

on it but this is where families

10:18

have been devices that are country it's the world

10:21

it's not just everyone else

10:23

it's families your loved ones it's

10:25

all this to have all of

10:27

the judgment demoralizing i feel like we know

10:29

people better over the last two

10:31

years and five years and ten years even

10:34

around family

10:36

we knew them before and and

10:38

someplace the prefer disappointments

10:42

embryos are both sides were there

10:44

look at a junior like

10:45

there for this dumb shit and your look to

10:48

your permanently altered your sad for this dumb

10:50

shit right is it is split apart

10:52

families and mind is one of them and

10:55

it also changes conversation

10:57

are we so

10:59

then she is a republican

11:02

and we don't talk politics when

11:04

we're out to dinner that is all you

11:06

can still luma friends i feel excited

11:08

we are you writers and readers

11:11

, the narrative and order it's less

11:13

interesting and less honest that's all right

11:15

now you just talk by in the back of

11:19

i would have i would i would also say

11:22

that

11:22

is like that is like i like

11:25

the carter reagan example the used that

11:27

has always existed it's all that

11:30

the trump era has done as brought those things

11:32

to the for and so like

11:34

they did a more subtle very

11:37

racist

11:38

the

11:39

or will you did you didn't have this kind

11:41

of encounter them in the same over is now from

11:44

bringing it to explicit language

11:46

as opposed to well you know we'll do a rally

11:48

in the town in mississippi that's it's affiliated

11:50

with the ku klux klan like that

11:53

i think what i'm trying to say is that this

11:55

has always existed you just didn't

11:58

have to make choices on that basis because

12:00

he wasn't so obvious and out there but this

12:02

is weird where you're watching where tom brady's

12:04

gonna build a house in miami cause he's building

12:06

one right next to a market trump

12:09

i mean so you start asking yourselves questions

12:11

right it's weird like like any just mercy

12:13

gonna build a fifteen million dollar house tom

12:15

brady's number of in westchester ny moving

12:17

to eyes indian river i now

12:19

but the older lot of people live that you can build

12:22

sixty nine dollar houses out

12:24

what i'm saying but as get a lot of money players to

12:26

build fifty million dollar houses in my inquiry

12:28

so we are reading

12:29

yeah because it's the latest thing called

12:31

up on the internet because he wants to be a part of this conversation

12:34

like that on my wife brought it up to me

12:36

a week ago so that's a bad luck of and i'm thinking

12:38

to myself is it really a bad luggage is moving

12:41

out of a

12:44

big take away from this photo was bill belichick take

12:46

some hacks with the suits delegates

12:48

shattered pink suits on here looks good

12:50

but as is not but more of as half and i want

12:52

to go inside the belly of the show here for

12:55

a second because you mentioned suits and you made

12:57

me made it's to god's all over

12:59

brought in a suit today but you're not wearing

13:01

a badge just like to know what were we are

13:03

with the penalty on you serving

13:06

one of the ten grid of death punishments

13:08

you own dot edu oh

13:11

and doing and week with the suit you brought

13:13

in a suit today suit saw where you're not wearing

13:15

it

13:17

update very good

13:19

i brought a suit in one suit a day or

13:22

it a pursuit week next

13:25

the i have the suits their hear the on a rack

13:27

i walk in in the morning and put a suit on i

13:29

take it off when i leave but you can't bring for

13:31

at a time you don't wanna bring forward i can only

13:34

one of its on one , the

13:36

time you can have for suits your assuming i

13:38

have four of the why bring it not put it on

13:40

but but did not put it

13:43

on i mean i'm just

13:45

stuck in em up you know inventory so

13:47

i can i get a full week

13:49

if a full today next week to get a full week

13:51

to get tuesday you get wednesday and abuse

13:53

by the they are bringing was suited it's

13:55

ah yes those solutions

13:58

brigid

14:01

you when getting ready for work in the morning

14:03

as a what many do

14:06

a little too much work i mean you

14:08

know carrying this is putting it

14:10

on before the show my idea that they're

14:12

when , here i will put him on and

14:15

next week they'll all be here here

14:17

three all effect

14:20

and like a bring in a sufi aware of

14:22

the re where one melody i haven't

14:24

all of green suit than have worn once

14:26

in my life as i grew to hate the color

14:29

but that would look beautiful on you i really would bring

14:31

it mps i wheeled and maybe somewhere out there

14:33

is a suit every man's suit a day

14:35

now where it now

14:37

, to take people into

14:39

the underbelly of the show for a second

14:41

here before we get back to the

14:43

regular least

14:45

the silliness are we will

14:47

be gearing up here was a test run

14:49

during the superbowl to get our video department

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14:54

lease and tony trying to carry us into the future

14:57

on their shoulders as we build the company

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15:03

where we are live on

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week and we will continue to test we

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can do this quicker example

15:16

because it was decided a in the middle of

15:18

all this let's also do a musical ah

15:22

the during the taping

15:24

around everything that we're doing here

15:26

the number

15:28

these in the taping of that musical but

15:30

i don't think i've

15:32

seen any even funnier than what i just

15:35

saw happening in the two rooms

15:37

and the two rooms making

15:40

, that cody

15:42

and strogatz are wonderfully bad

15:47

and that the worst they are

15:49

the better it is and

15:51

they just had to have some i'm not going

15:53

to give away too much here might because you don't know where

15:55

i'm working witching hour long time

15:57

and everybody around here is running around with their

15:59

hair

15:59

fire because we decided hey in the middle well

16:02

as let's also do a musical for some reason

16:05

but , just saw you taping with greg

16:07

and strogatz and they're acting

16:09

was the worst i've ever seen a

16:11

new seem to really like you

16:14

really like i said it was bad and i

16:16

love that one of the exchanges i heard was

16:18

after they're acting was really bad still

16:20

got started dancing around the room that's right one

16:22

take one take wonder and

16:25

press cody said it was for takes

16:27

and we just talk the

16:29

not my fault though i may have best of the worship

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as as a whole clean it up and post

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of am right a i

16:37

felt good about my before i thought it was brilliant

16:39

but that's why was laughing because you thought

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you were he was brilliant you felt good about

16:43

you performance and the entire time you were doing

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priesthood using my god there's such terrible

16:48

after to like just they're

16:50

so incredibly bad at

16:52

acting like they're trying to do dialogue

16:54

here as if it's natural

16:57

and it says they're clearly stiff

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as when did and wheezing

17:01

them and not emotional an

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input found out loud

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as as as

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why would i be good at it it's

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just it's just talking the greg

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i don't know with it's like on the months

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his defense had a sad

22:23

linebackers and like

22:25

stay and seven yards out at about against

22:27

georgia he

22:32

was upgraded the linebackers go to the

22:34

line is a that is gonna be great

22:36

this is gonna be great content i'm very

22:39

happy about very ,

22:41

al golden has landed on his feet after losing that

22:43

loss to the university my sister ah

22:46

speaking of great content as

22:48

simmons and harden just walking

22:51

around radiant in their new relationships

22:54

relationships has been ah if it has been

22:56

funny to watch him

22:58

die with ben simmons okay spend some time

23:01

or a kyrie irving kevin durant's kevin mean how that goes

23:03

answers fair enough but

23:06

brilliant made his band and howard as

23:09

ended the philadelphia thing i

23:11

mean i would what our desk and did the

23:13

people are doing and i think our

23:15

as good as still doing nothing yeah there's other

23:17

have a philadelphia our does do

23:19

it in i'm afraid say hopefully

23:22

, i don't even really blame

23:24

howard ask him right he should know better

23:27

use of a time that's no excuse more

23:29

we normally conversation about mental health more

23:32

people get educated that know like workplace

23:34

environment matters if you

23:36

are triggered by your workplace environment and

23:38

you i

23:40

could go a long way in boosting

23:43

your mental health ben simmons could have had

23:45

a pleasant month because he wasn't

23:47

in that facility if he was enough

23:49

facility who knows how long it would take before he

23:51

could be act like this is the big this is the big chains

23:53

you're asking philadelphian howard ask

23:56

and you're asking a dinosaur

23:58

generation real

23:59

the to show empathy and compassion

24:02

for the sensitive soft millionaires

24:04

who just robbed the sixers and

24:06

i don't care about your mental health kit

24:09

and you did short circuit in

24:11

a way that we haven't seen an athlete encore

24:14

do afraid to shoot i don't care about your mental

24:16

health kits get outta here he flees

24:18

town and fleas town and way that's

24:20

wildly unprofessional leaving behind

24:22

whatever those work relationships were within

24:24

been and everyone else because he just sled

24:27

on his teammates and couldn't be counted on

24:29

at the most important time way to sorry i was pretty

24:31

unprofessional doc rivers in unprofessional be to

24:33

come out after a lousy game and say what they said

24:36

the feelings as well and this is how we navigate

24:39

the mental health so if you want to have a mental health you

24:42

want to have it the way kevin love those it and

24:44

debord rosen tribune

24:46

are you want to have the actual conversation

24:48

of how that's going to land on doc rivers when you've

24:50

hurt his ability to keep his job because now

24:53

hey maybe it'll be dantonio more reinventing

24:55

hard and again and and doc won't

24:57

get the next great job and

25:00

yeah he's probably hurt and doesn't wanna hear about

25:02

ben simmons has mental health where dot

25:04

com shrimp where dot comes

25:06

from in the sport maybe don't

25:09

want to hear about the mental those

25:11

want to care the about the feelings

25:15

the net are making their way in and out of the kardashians

25:18

family with all of the distortion

25:20

they're with

25:22

the men i mean you've got tristan

25:24

thompson

25:26

the been aboard check

25:28

let me go get that same let me see what it does

25:30

emblem

25:31

in total crisis

25:33

i always thought it is but just it's there's

25:35

been a lot of from there with

25:37

young people and

25:41

in and out of relationship no

25:45

he was number one couldn't make n i t ls

25:47

you had like fourteen wins everyone

25:50

knew he was he was town undisputed

25:52

consensus this guy's going to be great

25:57

epic embarrassment for someone with

26:00

it's to philadelphia ten

26:03

years of philadelphia cruelty suffering

26:05

in this for we want to be relic now

26:09

we've gotta be process suffering embarrassment

26:12

laughing at us

26:14

those m b that giant crying on

26:17

the court oh god dammit

26:19

promise that close that

26:21

close ben simmons will fix it always

26:23

go do shoot not be afraid

26:26

don't be afraid to shoot oh

26:30

it got a town everybody

26:33

the city

26:35

no must

26:38

, hard for ben simmons to sleep at night when

26:40

he runs away like that and wants

26:42

to be comforted and we

26:44

don't want

26:45

conversation for we'll i

26:48

, what ben simmons comes from i don't

26:50

know what is imprinting is scarring his patterns

26:53

i don't know what happened to him him

26:55

don't know what his brain chemistry is

26:58

i know that i've seen very few times and thirty

27:00

years doing this an athlete have that happened

27:02

to him rak and say oh he

27:04

doesn't feel supported and then he fled

27:07

ran from the premises short circuited

27:10

mentally tells his mental health he needs

27:12

care and then we argue about it

27:14

very few times you seen a player

27:17

do that now shoot the ball be scared to game

27:19

and very few times you've heard a coach criticize

27:21

him for doing it after the game and his

27:23

bass player okay and we can take that

27:25

was france you can take sides on

27:28

on whether it needs to government imo

27:30

okay but you can take up some

27:32

on both these ice i ride

27:34

a hundred percent would ben simmons and

27:36

mental health or i ride a hundred

27:38

percent with doc rivers philadelphia organization

27:41

be a professional don't care about

27:43

your meds have i'm telling you that

27:45

were right now bridging that gap of

27:48

all of those people and ben simmons

27:50

is gonna be like a the epicenter of it where

27:52

we got scared today's athlete is more sensitive

27:54

or more open a more transparent and

27:57

the deal with it because and that sports

27:59

it

27:59

really strong those contracts

28:02

are big and here's your salary cap and now

28:04

you're tying yourself up in some hardens and some

28:06

irving's and they're taken over your economies and

28:08

your teams and they the just ran

28:10

him out of town because he was betrayed

28:13

ah

28:14

the trade what they wanted and now i don't

28:17

them in his mind is right or healthy

28:19

or happy or workplace environment is gonna fix

28:21

him or your cynicism is going to wins and

28:23

he's just and unprofessional asshole brat

28:26

the

28:27

but i hope ben simmons

28:29

comes back with a whole lot of you for

28:31

philadelphia like i hope

28:36

up with these guys in outcomes for

28:38

and bead and harden and

28:40

and and has to defend some of that on the

28:44

hell bent on like this

28:47

, you you mother are you hurt

28:49

me i needed help our resource i

28:51

was frail i broke apart and you criticize

28:53

me and now he comes for and beat or

28:57

he's not tough enough and him beat as if is

28:59

forty point guy and

29:00

you're not some out the way to i

29:02

leonard does

29:04

i want to see that series

29:06

so bored and , be so go that

29:08

syrian area on i might be rooting

29:10

for kevin durant's i think of

29:13

but is but constructive sports

29:16

what you're talking about their like you're basically saying

29:18

that's him not being tough in a big moments

29:21

hurts him mentally him being criticized

29:23

by his own fans you're

29:26

basically saying that the current concept

29:28

of sports is a mentally fraught

29:31

place which it is so

29:33

what is the solution that is the solution to like

29:35

tell howard as skin or stuka

29:38

the sizing him because you're hurting your own

29:40

players is it

29:42

the plague know as soft

29:45

, flake what do you mean i

29:47

said criticized the player's performance

29:49

when he's art is early twenties and he just

29:52

so so not helping

29:55

know but wasn't open wasn't but

29:57

wasn't to

29:58

the ben simmons in his mind

29:59

if you go through this and i know

30:02

some people

30:02

the out there with the take that these fake dog as

30:05

because he just didn't want to play there anymore i would

30:08

bet my life and they're not being true did

30:10

i mean you could look at what he experienced

30:13

a free pass up on that layup and

30:15

how his teammates and head coach

30:17

head how we mistreated on social media and

30:19

knows certifiably that affects

30:22

mental health to what degree i'm

30:24

i guess that's where people like howard us going

30:26

to do to poke holes and but

30:28

i guarantee you throughout that process ben

30:31

simmons so

30:33

bet you like you're letting this get to you come

30:35

on pushed through snow he

30:38

beat of a need i want all

30:40

but this is to me this is why

30:42

this is so far

30:44

that's for what you've been rewarded over

30:46

for a long period of time before the

30:48

road

30:49

the that okay you want to see more no

30:52

man just were something

30:55

on it keepers deep

30:56

i don't show them where your sauce

30:59

to articulate your feelings

31:02

daily this pandemic

31:04

is made me crazy whatever stuff

31:07

, down rubs something offered

31:10

run rub some analysts on

31:12

it or if you're antonio brown

31:14

you don't even trust the therapist to talk

31:17

try and get

31:19

a little further down ,

31:22

path path is

31:24

where the mental health stuff is

31:26

because ben ben simmons is a pretty

31:28

good test case wherever you want to argue

31:31

about this you just

31:33

saw something that you're not will there's

31:36

mental health even though was a short circuiting

31:38

on a court that happened in front of us

31:41

there , really unusual so if you're not willing

31:43

to grant that he might be week in that moment

31:46

then you're just not interested just not things

31:49

that make him human and what makes human

31:51

performance reach those levels when

31:53

we're talking about real mental toughness

31:55

were all the other competitive guys around

31:58

you are now seeing that weakness

31:59

and he can't face his old

32:02

philadelphia teammate

32:04

them

32:06

the them doesn't want to be on the premises just

32:08

sleaze everything how

32:10

good are you

32:12

the it's and everyone i'm talking to when the other room

32:14

here how good are you with you guys see

32:16

all the humanity of your athletes because this

32:18

is the process that we've gone through with making

32:20

these guys start by

32:23

social media than they've ever been allowing all

32:25

of our , to get

32:27

all over them photographing ben simmons

32:29

in the club as he dates in his early

32:31

twenty's trying to figure stuff

32:33

out wears his mental

32:35

health at and can you trust it in a salary

32:38

cap sport where you're given him a max contract

32:41

and the entire process is on his shoulders you're

32:43

asking him not to break apart when joel

32:45

and beat is crying on the

32:47

they need one extra step to

32:49

get

32:50

why leonard i'd

32:52

rather no less than more to be honest with

32:54

you because you know you know hesitant

32:56

to call ben simmons a choker the next time he joked

32:58

no yona know you know you called julio

33:02

barbara would show lawyer and to as

33:04

you may , insist

33:06

on him a joker yesterday yesterday

33:09

saw this is not going to since you're

33:12

not going to get philadelphia be less

33:14

cruel about this

33:16

but this this donating

33:18

stuff in sports the real

33:21

human stuff that tells you the

33:23

to tell you the larger stories because

33:27

no i don't know simmons

33:29

was faking the whole thing or maybe

33:31

his unhappy

33:32

maybe you need to a dark place in his mental

33:35

health feel as mental health

33:37

and sports intersect and mental

33:40

health issues in fort morgan

33:42

have more of this conversation which is

33:45

is mental he

33:48

excuse for all behavior

33:50

or is something you do under

33:53

the umbrella of mental health

33:56

fair , criticize

33:58

and in that something that that the going

34:00

to happen lot more where you ,

34:02

initially you wanna have all sympathy for

34:04

someone someone mental health issues

34:06

because it must be a tremendous wait much

34:09

does that stews that are you

34:11

allowed to quit on your team are you love

34:13

to do what antonio do did

34:16

you know what i mean what the as the answer the

34:18

answer your question on ben simmons yes

34:20

you're allowed to just didn't ended up in a happier

34:22

situation in that sport he has the power

34:24

got rewarded and max forty has the power to

34:27

do it it's a little harder and antonio browns

34:29

sport but but simmons has criticized

34:31

for it's okay does he get to do

34:33

with scott free wow there's no such thing as

34:36

you get to do it in everyone's applauding because

34:38

they're kind and there are empathetic and

34:40

they can see your weakness and they can be trusted

34:42

with your vulnerability know some people going

34:44

to be jokes about it but there's be jokes

34:46

like that's that's the thing we're bridging

34:48

right now that's where dot

34:50

river steps in it where he doesn't realize he's

34:53

here hurting a young man's feelings

34:55

sensitive feelings when doc rivers doesn't

34:57

come from the time that you can criticize

35:00

an athlete after is just dad dup

35:02

your entire season at the end

35:04

of it because he's afraid to shoot but is what you're saying

35:06

that you do want people not and

35:09

nut the you specifically or that people want

35:11

to be okay with someone being

35:14

and struggling in a big spot in sports

35:17

like what we're saying is we need

35:19

to get to place where someone can do that

35:22

and we said ok like give you have to

35:24

do that for your mental health like that does

35:26

break down the concept of sports and what

35:28

we view as these admirable

35:30

or superior traits and it's start

35:33

question though is do you want

35:36

your athletes treated as maximum

35:38

decency you extend to a

35:40

human being not

35:44

maximum decency this decency this right

35:46

side with parents and we all have really don't care

35:48

about in the same oh

35:49

they're that kind of valuable to your constructive

35:52

winning like care about them the way

35:54

that you care about would you care about

35:56

your regional identity and sports jump

35:59

up and down

35:59

sporting events in a way you didn't in the delivery room

36:03

like , do catch your emotionally connected

36:05

to what's that thing is ends and

36:07

emotional connections made so they'll be very angry

36:09

at ben simmons simmons some

36:12

of philadelphia is talking mental

36:14

health but he hurt their feelings and ben simmons

36:16

is looking at them and singular good

36:23

as as as a by

36:25

philadelphia you mean added asking of course

36:27

when i mean i've only represents

36:29

all right now i'm at night although now i'm of deaths

36:31

in philadelphia has been the kindest

36:34

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36:37

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37:59

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