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period, holy shit, incredible. fifteen

1:02

points, fifteen goals in game, right?

1:05

I believe Flame scored two goals in fifty

1:07

seconds first for the bride, you see, this

1:09

reddit thing going around that the Panthers got screwed

1:12

on that goal that was taken away in Game One.

1:14

Apparently, if a pop hits

1:17

the net that protects the stan

1:19

lee and the rest don't see it and

1:21

play goes on, you're not supposed to be able to

1:23

review that like I have a paragraph

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of the rules, sex and ten game flow.

1:28

The eighty five point one. The

1:30

puck striking the spectator netting.

1:33

Those. Unnoticed by the on ice officials

1:35

play shall continue as normal and resulting

1:37

play with the puck shall be deemed a legitimate

1:40

play we are so fortunate that was big

1:42

moment. Something like that was so would have been

1:44

would that have been through nothing don't,

1:46

wanna do not have been sitting would have been

1:48

to learn how to. tie it up

1:50

yeah but that was just huge swing and

1:53

I ride a feeling we got screwed their yeah

1:55

it's been bad officiating meantime playoff. for

1:57

everybody and baseball to what's with of

2:00

The men were they have more help than ever

2:02

with all these replays and they still suck

2:04

you see Marcello sooner the other day struck

2:06

out on three straight looking

2:09

pitches that were balls. All three

2:11

of them are balls outside the zone and he struck out

2:13

looking they need to get rid of that stupid

2:15

box. Striking for us about

2:17

check if you're nine I'm with you, you're not going to implement

2:20

it and use the boc like rid of the knowledge he less

2:22

technology, why want to take no no, I

2:24

don't but have this guy want the want

2:26

the? The trick supposed to be called

2:28

a little buzzer when I see it boom ball.

2:32

Tiger. Just rip one right down the middle,

2:35

you guys want to press a button and home

2:37

Chris, you want to be larger following me I'm

2:39

seeing somebody in the it like. Somebody's watching TV

2:41

at the stadium, an official sees the box

2:43

boom ball and buzzard down the empire, the can still

2:46

be an umpire their you're allowing and for

2:48

their. To be an umpire there, but you just

2:50

wanted to be done all electronic deliberately

2:52

on prior all the strikes in I'm so

2:54

over get rid of the box, okay if you're? Gonna do with

2:56

the way that we're doing it now, get rid of the stupid

2:58

box you said Ozuna

3:00

in my, in my initial thought when I saw him

3:03

in a big league uniform, earlier,

3:05

this year was just like, how the hell is he still

3:07

in big league uniform? Like, they won the championship

3:09

without him. He's at home. Beating

3:11

up. His wife is arrested, leave the

3:13

sport and then quietly returns

3:15

to the sport and is back in the middle of the lineup

3:17

is Freddie, Freeman, leaves. And I'm like, wait

3:20

I'm shouldn't we like, what? But

3:22

let's talk about the strikes

3:24

out cuz

3:25

he could still hit 25 homers Dan. That's why

3:28

that

3:29

is correct stew. I a need to know about it.

3:31

Still strike people out. That's

3:33

right, Jen. Actually,

3:35

thank you Roy, but

3:38

not only point counter point. but point counterpoint

3:41

to you and your laziest point. In twenty

3:43

years with says, "If you hit twenty five

3:45

homers, you get to play all the time unless you're Trevor

3:47

Bauer now you're banned for two years while

3:49

like twenty five" Homers, that's true, too,

3:51

that exactly right.

3:54

That's runs from being scored and,

3:56

pesky designated hitter in and as league

3:58

the new guy sounds so

4:00

Lame. Now with the lamenting of and

4:02

I know Roy, you said all the officiating has been

4:04

bad as you were talking about a nine to

4:06

six hockey game, but you guys sounded.

4:08

So, lame with the and Ennis

4:10

and the here's the thing you're not wrong when you say

4:12

it's well that does us lot of good that the league

4:14

now says that. Goal that would tie the game

4:16

to should have been called are not books

4:19

the league's not saying this Chris you're saying

4:21

that they're on Reddit, but it's clip. It's like screenshot

4:23

of some of the actual NHL

4:25

rules so you can find whatever you

4:27

want to find on Reddit if you want that

4:29

to be goal you'll find. It on Reddit if you

4:32

want people say of was it goal you'll find

4:34

it on Reddit, you could find whatever you was

4:36

anywhere you want on Reddit guy.

4:39

Don't don't like what's going on here The

4:41

panther down day.

4:43

And. We haven't moved past the,

4:45

you know, the first game laws were just

4:47

kind of stuck in there and that is a losing

4:50

way of going about game to you need

4:52

to. Have short memory you need to get

4:54

on back the be ready for game to

4:57

the games can be played in hell

4:59

as we discussed because the the,

5:01

ice. Then his ass falling to the

5:03

on power versus Vs came to

5:06

visit. visit was really bad enough

5:08

you got me back i need to get rid of get game

5:10

one out of my mind's or back

5:12

I wanted to ask you guys is because believe

5:14

that the national audience is tired

5:16

already have Panthers hockey were obsessed

5:19

now when asked about think so

5:21

now and don't know how he managed to this day

5:23

and think somehow. The

5:25

regular season people hated the Panther's time.

5:28

Then. Panthers or China like a lovable

5:30

loser type situation in the playoffs right

5:32

now, and I think that people want the

5:34

Panthers to do well even

5:36

though laid hated the conversation during.

5:38

The regular season didn't hear another story I'd

5:40

say no, think the Panthers

5:42

or talk ruins or show and the He'd

5:45

Talk ruins our show and

5:47

our narrow. Has been that does

5:49

not ruin the show, they, my name, is a like when

5:52

you get derailed by the smallest of marlins

5:54

things last night with Billy, I

5:56

think. I'd be the pad there's a bigger marriages

5:58

team I do have. "America is rooting

6:01

for the panthers in large part because

6:03

of our", said Jim Reynolds about that. Not.

6:06

Surprising that you would think that all because

6:08

you're the greatest and the best to that

6:10

the Panthers and how America's team don't

6:13

agree with anything you're saying but ah.

6:16

do think that want to try

6:18

and get our Dave Samson tells this

6:20

amazing story, don't know how long

6:22

it is, Royer, if you can find his in the. Computers

6:24

because the story of how he got

6:27

the bus from John Henry

6:29

a busted as two million dollar busts

6:33

in. in negotiations over the team

6:35

and how he was willing to make it make deal breaker

6:37

is one of the greatest story ever told on

6:39

the shelves but of to god's when you

6:41

were talking about wanting

6:44

Then. Show up at a panther games

6:46

because all of sudden we're all hockey experts

6:49

around here in an actual bandwagon

6:51

when you were asking for bandwagon I'm

6:54

saying to myself what? How can we do this quickly,

6:56

how can we create bandwagon quick

6:58

place we haven't been able to do it by

7:00

game too, so we need game five

7:02

in order? To do was, but till we get

7:04

the David Samson, John Henry, boss

7:07

to be the two million dollar busted still got

7:09

shows up as bandwagon at Panthers

7:11

game in. The future and that swamp land that is

7:13

Billy mentions his does sinking

7:16

into the Marsh it's been legislated

7:18

into the building and management

7:20

rules, we all understand that soon

7:22

that will. Be under the Marsh and the Panthers

7:25

will be playing an actual how well okay

7:27

we have workaround for this Dan that we

7:29

have figured out ah we're not going. To have bandwagon

7:31

for game tooth is that is tonight unless

7:34

someone it's happens to have spare

7:36

bandwagon that they want to lend us tonight

7:38

at what is bandwagon. By the way, I

7:40

don't know exactly what had abandoned

7:42

on of is like an anonymous type of thing

7:45

right thousand stagecoach as of

7:47

my daughter up the origins of Bandwagon.

7:49

For me, put on the pole, please gear more at Leopard

7:51

Charge Show, or do you know what an

7:53

actual bandwagon is the origins

7:56

of the phrase bandwagon we do have A. Workaround

7:59

though, Dan.

8:00

And you, as president of this company,

8:02

I think if we get you to sign off

8:04

on this, we can make it happen, so

8:06

we had some one. Presented

8:09

this opportunity for Monday's game

8:13

in. tampa they said we have

8:15

a couple tickets if you guys are interested

8:17

in going now We have show

8:19

on Monday. And we have show on Tuesday.

8:23

It didn't know digging around and we found

8:25

out that there is logistically

8:27

away. That we can slide

8:29

in Tampa after the show Monday.

8:32

And we can fly back Tuesday morning

8:35

and get here at seven thirty am

8:37

and then roll right on in after

8:40

a game for victory do.

8:42

tuesday show not miss show but

8:44

have presence and santa now

8:47

Here's where you come in as the leader of this company.

8:50

You. Just need to say, okay, do whatever you guys want,

8:52

and then boom, it can be done now,

8:55

all as I for it, yeah, about that, it added

8:57

really the yeah, that. That that's really the do whatever

8:59

you guys, one thing is that you need to kind of sign

9:01

off on it was like the company, check book or whatever,

9:04

and then other. Across the hall and also prison right now,

9:06

Christened Listen, we afford tickets, it's

9:08

gonna be me, it's gonna be Chris

9:10

is going to be Roy wants to cover

9:13

it as. A drama series that will eventually it could

9:15

be her through the press by gets a dentist, games

9:17

three and four, yeah, I have bad news, you know, going

9:19

home from his. wife and why isn't this happened

9:21

because I've heard it talked about for a week, hey, we've got

9:23

to transform us to go up there is because

9:25

for of you leaving?" Will he was decimated

9:28

data else everyone to do their jobs

9:30

around here, no no, at the I told you with

9:32

a workaround we're going be back in time to unless is? A

9:34

hiccup which sometime are with signed your flight on

9:36

allowed the of your flight arrive the

9:38

seven years after the show on Monday

9:41

we come back Tuesday morning with your guide.

9:43

To the reason for the airbender, I we months

9:45

gonna blow the we includes to gods who are you

9:47

hot on of, well, okay, that's another

9:50

thing figure out on because. Do

9:52

that said yes to this plan and

9:54

I'm worried and as part of the situation

9:56

and a want to tell Chris into books is self forced

9:59

to God and. The have.

10:01

And. For those wondering who's christening christened here

10:03

kind of assuming South Hill these responsibilities

10:05

were held his in France, so now we're all caught

10:07

up sell any way through got

10:09

nine years. While the in France, what kind of

10:11

believe that and I'm working fine, Rose

10:13

Hans time con thoughts is conning

10:16

someone says they're doing something who knows

10:18

right my favorite film of. Ads yeah, I,

10:22

had put a sense of put it on the pole ad

10:24

limits are zone sister gods

10:26

of an annual film and then, known

10:29

as cause C o.

10:31

n little housekeeping

10:33

hear the word bandwagon was coined in the usa

10:36

coined the mid nineteenth century simply as the

10:38

name for the wagon that carried a circus band Turkish.

10:41

Bath Growl served as bad that

10:43

was her forget and but you're

10:45

saying I don't know what a physical band

10:47

wagon looks like and before you put it in

10:49

Tampa and Game. For I want to

10:51

talk about this bus and this party bus,

10:54

it might not qualify as a bandwagon, but against

10:56

is two million dollar bus play Roy

10:58

Real quickly the. Sound of David Samson,

11:00

I believe have the details right. I.

11:03

Loved when David Samson throughout the pandemic

11:05

went through all of his notes on

11:07

Marlins to go, she asians on

11:09

Marlin's transactions and showed you

11:11

the real underbelly with Mike Ryan

11:14

like. He does today of the business

11:16

machine and how it works, son Henry,

11:19

who parlayed marlins ownership in the

11:21

not building a stadium here and fled

11:23

and got the Red Sox and. "Became very rich

11:25

and is man that among other things has no

11:27

liquid in his eyes, so during tense negotiations,

11:30

he's gotta use an eyedropper because he doesn't

11:32

cry real human" tears He's just perpetuates

11:36

putting on to his eyes liquid so

11:38

he could be more human, he's an unusual

11:40

man suspected be villain

11:42

billionaire and he got the Boston Red

11:44

Sox. And now he's giant soccer on

11:46

earth and as the end of negotiations

11:48

over the Marlins, I believe the

11:50

John Henry wanted to keep his damn bus

11:53

and was willing to. Nuke the deal over the bus,

11:55

and believe David Samson said, "Go head nuke

11:57

of a deal I'm keeping the bus and so

11:59

the.

12:00

What? Have you know the Marlin's bus if you

12:02

ever seen the Marlin's bus around town, it was

12:04

John Henry's motor coach he bought and,

12:06

and as from scratch, two million dollars

12:08

more? A coach is like a tour bus that couches

12:11

and see these is red sea bass

12:13

and he would drive it back and forth from his

12:15

house in Boca de. Pro player and then spring

12:18

training and back this was his busts and

12:20

condition of the sale as she wants to keep the

12:22

bus you want to have the bus for. Him

12:25

in Boston. And ah,

12:27

right before the deal was closing, it's my

12:29

same as and favorite best story is I called

12:31

John Henry, "I sit by the way we're taking the bus"

12:34

He lost his mind he hung up on

12:37

me you wearing. "I

12:39

just wanted to give the was so annoyed

12:41

with the ways it's Lucinda and day begins

12:44

were we're acting", said said, "You know what don't

12:46

care" How our walk away from the

12:48

steel over this bus stop Henry

12:50

at a black tie, eventually that wedding?

12:53

He was out of the wedding, cause me any

12:55

start swearing at me, right? And.

12:59

When you right now this is my yes and bus,

13:01

I'm not even talking you have discussed the fact

13:04

that you made me about it is party about this busts

13:06

this is. outrageous I said John let me be very

13:08

clear enjoy your wedding there is

13:10

no deal without the bus plex,.

13:14

next song call i get is from major

13:16

league baseball bob do pay You're

13:19

going to blow up the biggest France I swap

13:21

historic you're a part of history, David

13:24

in your tell me over two million dollar

13:26

bus you're going to blow this transaction, OP's

13:28

I said Bob On tell you now know

13:30

Bus No Deal.

13:32

David. Are you being serious, are you flexible

13:34

miss in any way I said, Bob, will

13:36

die on the bus few days later

13:38

John Henry gave up the bus and he really? Didn't

13:40

talk to be much as to that and we have

13:43

the bus you, still have the

13:45

busted such as well as bus or know and that when

13:47

jeter close. As you arrive the head visitor,

13:51

sites even better than. that were

13:54

selling to jeter year

13:56

is that our pets and says anything other

13:58

than the fact

14:00

Iran is not getting the team that's

14:02

all I cared about literally that

14:04

was it so. there's an

14:06

asset in the deal it's an asset

14:08

deal which means you're buying assets use by the

14:10

assets from us from jeffrey and one

14:12

of the assets was the bus

14:15

So, how old is bus?

14:17

It's by the way, this bus

14:19

can go forever this bus and go to a million miles. Just

14:21

got $50,000 on thousand miles on it.

14:23

I

14:26

am sitting in PJ ylo's office

14:28

with Jeff. go nine p.

14:30

J. Lo Yellow Business, you have communication,

14:33

the guy who hates are you guys because you

14:35

do nothing but manipulating, yeah? The

14:37

can even listen to these local hours right he

14:39

has, like, ptsd from a sweat

14:41

standpoint and so he's worried and

14:44

worried, sore sit in his office, me just

14:46

cone, I enjoy our. The gone,

14:48

swear this team has been solved, but

14:50

have a crazy idea. That's

14:53

called Jeffrey unless by the boss the

14:55

two of us so.

14:57

we called jeffrey say he jeffrey on

14:59

we want to buy the bus from you Jeffrey

15:02

said: "Well, I don't care to Cedar'is is

15:04

year think he's getting the bus see who

15:06

cares for said take it out of a deal Jeter

15:08

will carry one of difference", Jeffrey

15:11

Loria sold the boss to

15:13

me and colonized for ten grand. Grand

15:17

we. go nine and nine started company

15:21

Dubai the bus it's called W

15:23

G T F

15:26

B L C We

15:29

got the I've been boss

15:31

outbreak ah ha you

15:34

guys want to take the brought up

15:36

to Tampa for game for is that the idea,

15:39

is? no i mean

15:41

then with definitely not going to be back in time for

15:43

game five are you are not going back

15:45

for tos you can you can sleep on the bus on

15:47

the way back on the driveway is effective

15:50

in philly when david okay and wag we

15:52

take the bandwagon both across alligator

15:54

alley we dress it up as the panther bandwagon

15:57

on panther outside role in there on the inside

15:59

party

16:00

In getting ready for the game, doing

16:02

what we do, I that would be a blast

16:04

of dollar not gonna do any of that.

16:07

I now.

16:08

Then. Real nice, it's an hour on the bird, maybe

16:10

I'll skip was around here, maybe he'll donate his pj

16:12

for this excursion, then we devil whole

16:15

a or not, I mean I. Do understand all the ways

16:17

as the you guys want to make this more, more expensive,

16:19

understand that the two million dollar party bus

16:21

isn't quite enough for you and the. Fact

16:23

that you guys could just as really again it's

16:26

gonna cost more, honestly has arrived at the

16:28

sly understand the bandwagon I'm trying to

16:30

make free isn't as great as. For flights

16:32

first class back and forth to Tamp as you guys

16:34

could rush back and forth and do a forty minute post,

16:36

am I doing it for, you know, know?

16:38

It's a totally unselfish as and

16:40

doing it for couple thirty second

16:42

videos or have chance there are

16:44

what you're not going for game three bio am just

16:46

say, oh? And just like the way you know that right now,

16:49

par une towards this.

16:50

We

16:53

can't go for game 4 in. And I mean? what

16:55

is happening with this since you are now negotiating

16:57

trips? And I want

17:00

you guys. want to be a doing all the stuff he

17:02

has. PN couldn't. Do I want you guys

17:04

to go. to cool thing so

17:06

that Roy can have an experience in Washington

17:08

better is already been ruined because

17:11

they last game once and Mike is? Declared

17:13

season over, you're not going to tell me rights,

17:15

I. Look in your eyes and I've

17:17

asked you if you're scared not before this

17:19

one, not now. And you said

17:21

I'm just concerned. Then.

17:23

Most man is, the most you here's

17:26

a look of now, this what that was the last series

17:28

that's when they came within guy you know across

17:31

parts of. Losing the last

17:33

series so and eight seed all he would grant

17:35

me was concern now you've lost

17:37

to the Lightning, the last four to one

17:39

at home and this goalie of. Bears

17:42

made is completely unsc you

17:44

can't score on and nobody can score on and

17:46

no matter how great you are and your level

17:48

of concern is where studies

17:50

for. man

17:52

The game one right, it was

17:54

a went well and also like we discuss that

17:56

I was there wasn't really four to one is Chris

17:58

is looking I'm ready to fight. It out how it is.

18:01

That. Goes for the Panthers, the panda scored

18:03

two goals and then, you know, we were watching,

18:06

and we all know that was goaltender interference that

18:08

you then subtract the goal away. From

18:10

Tampa Bay and then that's basically legacy

18:12

three game I think by my math,

18:15

yeah, and then you have all the momentum,

18:17

yeah, the home crowd you have

18:19

everybody on. The pan wagon, their me, that

18:21

it as a whole different series, exec me

18:23

game for when we would be going there for

18:25

this game, me Chris, to gotta

18:28

pay phone. And I'm Roy

18:30

and Louis, I guess would be recording from owner who would

18:32

be recording for Stick. You don't want to go

18:34

once, why not? You're tired.

18:37

That. The went to Washington.

18:40

They. Are you coming, please somebody to

18:42

the person who doesn't have a microphone daily lottery

18:44

diplomat, and like I don't send out a ground

18:47

instead of tags, not sign of securing? The

18:49

as you're just trying to roll more chaos

18:51

across the floor, send you guys

18:53

I really do want. The

18:56

figure out. If you guys

18:58

understand. How? Silly.

19:01

The and. The awful. You. Sound

19:04

when you're like saw on Reddit that we could have made

19:06

it to fairly, and instead

19:08

we just lost for one at home because

19:11

we're ass holes like with. We're searching

19:13

on Reddit for the way that can find, we're

19:15

were wrong when we lost for one

19:17

at home, but let's not focus on Reddit

19:19

just because this was. discovered

19:22

And read, it doesn't mean that the clip that the screenshot

19:24

saw with of the actual NHL rules,

19:27

saying that play should have been it's been a play

19:29

on. You realize my point is that

19:31

in any other sporting event played anywhere

19:33

for sports fan out lamented

19:35

in for one laws and what about bad goal

19:38

that would have changed? momentum what you can

19:40

be saying is true: nobody on

19:42

Earth gives flying bleep about

19:44

that, like use all the almost

19:46

afford one, get the bleep out your

19:48

your. Best team in the league in your home almost.

19:51

The moment where almost on Reddit,

19:54

I was almost on Reddit, my almost

19:56

won the game, got your blood from any

19:58

other sports from abroad of limp. Then. Mean that

20:00

if it was a legitimate point, it

20:02

was as if I saw on Reddit that it was illegitimate,

20:05

Miss Call, I'm just pointing out of them is gone

20:07

with you. It's not a good look, let's move forward,

20:09

I'm confident we still got this is gonna be long Syrian,

20:12

are you going to be tonight, are you gonna be panther

20:14

salary? Of robbing at the has

20:16

had the best as go to see heard of do hammered Babette

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20:23

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20:25

the bears game while roy is taking

20:27

intermission to serious that's right or

20:29

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20:32

about this you guys game gather for

20:34

this you're going with tickets Sligo with tickets

20:36

and then I walk up to me and him a but?

20:38

you guys are real odd couple because

20:40

again roy's wa roy's tweets on

20:42

hockey or strange and that it's just like okay

20:45

here it comes to foreign for

20:47

Then. And I sat with Roy in the press box

20:49

for a panther game, okay, I'm want to know when I

20:51

got advanced against by the way, another Panthers, what

20:53

are you going? To a night are you going on

20:55

all see how I feel later or game a little

20:57

bit under the weather or no or cold or

21:00

no hope of that really? Even though it's sinking in

21:02

the hell.

21:03

I will tell you that Roy takes his hockey

21:05

very, very seriously.

21:07

Then. Take that job very seriously,

21:09

Roy is that they're wasting your money, Dan

21:11

Roy is watering the game over there

21:13

for Illinois sowed Roy is going

21:16

to the post game press tom Area Sound

21:18

Roy selected was in a way I think you're right

21:20

about wanna know why he goes to the

21:22

post game for is he makes me when

21:24

one is as I'm. Sitting up there, got her ass is a

21:26

game of my eyelids record exactly like every

21:28

morsel of see here and he loves

21:30

more that he loves this more than you. Do he cares

21:33

about this more than you do have why he is right,

21:35

he's risen up to level of concern

21:37

in his fandom, he's not scared, but he's risen

21:39

to? A level of concern, but here's the thing, though,

21:42

right?

21:43

If you're gonna be an impartial member of

21:45

the media as you're presenting yourself, you can't

21:47

care. You need to not care about

21:49

the outcome you need to just be there to

21:51

report the facts as they happen,

21:54

not your opinion there's no,

21:56

you know. You know, Roy, thoughts

21:58

on this is just what's going on. There

22:00

are we going as a member of the impartial media,

22:02

are we going as Roy I can give my

22:04

opinion know it and happened now?

22:07

I'm. Talking about I'm right cover games everyone

22:10

in the media is just a fan eighth grade,

22:12

I'm learning that more and more attending to be objective,

22:15

yes or but the vegan. A

22:17

I would suck my dad was like, oh, all these

22:19

other journalists are down the middle, my dad, he's

22:21

a little bit of homer, they're all everyone's elmer.

22:24

Like. The walls in recent years we were all

22:26

pretending better and then we'll been started wearing

22:28

black Hawks jerseys on the air on P General,

22:30

like, "Okay, we'll have to do this" anymore I think

22:32

that's how that happened where will the Cubs World

22:34

Series Day and was wearing tubs had a solid

22:37

I will.

22:39

been decided that for all of us he tucked

22:41

in his car better as a answer out of first

22:43

item or like okay we're all allowed to take off

22:45

these disguises of objectivity

22:48

and for ten we don't have to pretend

22:50

anymore but chris i'm with you with want to follow

22:52

you down this path because i

22:54

have the roy creature Then.

22:56

Arena yes know Roy, the Roy Hockey

22:59

creature who is covering the game as a media

23:01

members indeed creature, this is Annette

23:03

uniquely it's studied specimen

23:06

in the wild. That I would love the easy watch,

23:08

eat fried potato chips and wander around

23:10

and take talkie very seriously more so

23:13

than just about anyone in their like Goldstein

23:15

or have a. Crack a smile or something you

23:17

are in their brooding and studying and

23:21

been very serious during intermission to have

23:23

any of the city hotdog so i have any of what i'm

23:25

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23:27

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23:29

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23:31

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The really give a shit judge death.

27:01

and god i gotta stop gotta long time

27:03

ago this as a sophomore but

27:05

as the how bad academy ah

27:08

academy big fan of this man's

27:10

word been wanting to talk to him for long time

27:12

and now he's doing george carlin's american

27:15

dream it's going to be on h b o back

27:17

to back nights part one

27:19

debuts friday eight

27:21

pm part to saturday a

27:23

comedic hero or judd apatow

27:26

followed in the footsteps of people

27:28

like this to this very small comedy world

27:30

of stand up comics and everyone else

27:32

and are one of the reasons i want to talk to you

27:34

judge and thank you for joining us beyond

27:36

george carlin's thought that you did such

27:39

an artful job with

27:41

garry shandling story shandling

27:43

so touching and moving the way that you told

27:45

that in documentary forms and

27:48

admire that what you're choosing to do here

27:50

without the platform that you've been given

27:52

which could be anything is to

27:54

honor some of the people who made comedy

27:56

great for you and for others Oh,

27:59

yeah.

28:00

That I'm a hoarder, you know, so the

28:02

idea of organizing someone's life

28:04

and all the things they did and try to come

28:06

up with presentation for people

28:09

is something that I really like to do

28:11

because. It makes me sad to think Seven was

28:13

hysterical somewhere and

28:15

it'll just go down a digital black

28:17

hole. And. You'll never hear

28:19

about it again and I feel like these people they

28:21

have such amazing stories but and they're not

28:24

presented well to the next

28:26

generation, they'll never know that

28:28

George. Carlin existed on never figure out with

28:30

that journey was, and how important his work

28:32

less of a, it's really fun for

28:34

me and death, and he was the best

28:36

mean. He predicted everything he warned

28:39

about: "Everything, and the rejoins or is

28:41

trending on Twitter is any time something

28:43

happens, he had the best routine

28:45

about it"

28:46

Are you trying to honor your craft through

28:48

him when you say something like that people

28:51

deserve to know what came before them, so

28:53

people deserve to do that and to know the history

28:55

of Who's Who shaped comedy, who the leaders

28:57

in the pioneers were? The ib

28:59

these are. You know, these are

29:02

the people that.

29:04

They got all the walls of enjoyed from get arrested

29:07

after a show he did the seven words you

29:09

can see on television in.

29:11

wisconsin and end in the show's

29:13

over he went to jail or so

29:15

to speak near their the people that

29:17

are made everything we see now

29:20

Nobody still also the funniest that when he's

29:22

on our mount Rushmore. And

29:24

and his life is very interesting, he he.

29:27

The New Yorker. The mom

29:30

had a divorce. The father

29:32

or imagined thirty eight because

29:35

he was beaten up his older brother, who was like six.

29:38

Move up stayed and then finally move back

29:40

to New York, and he went

29:42

to Catholic school is doubted every

29:45

begun.

29:45

Became a lifelong the of critical

29:48

thinker eat was always thinking.

29:51

We need to really look at things we shouldn't trust

29:53

everything and the.

29:55

Then we all talk about that, now everybody feels like

29:57

I'm not everything is really what

29:59

they say.

30:00

It. Is and he was warning people about that

30:02

for decades, just one amaze

30:04

me about Carlin, was he seemed to get

30:06

better with age are besides the delivery

30:09

besides out quick, he? Was he seemed to

30:11

be very good as he got older in

30:13

fact better or them when he was younger

30:15

from your perspective knowing how hard it is

30:17

to do what he? Did or what made

30:19

him so great at this?

30:22

You are, you obsessed with language and words,

30:24

he also always likely to be like Danny

30:26

Kaye, like he was a DJ

30:29

and as he had the boys

30:31

and he revealed he really was performing

30:33

something that he had written very carefully.

30:36

It. Then you the big idea

30:38

of guy, you know he was. Doing

30:41

regimes that were about the hypocrisy.

30:44

In the world and really carefully showing

30:47

you agree. there's as disbanded

30:49

as about hell as hell hated the idea

30:52

of hell

30:53

The like, so there's ten rules and

30:55

if you don't follow them as you'd burn

30:57

in hell and God said you to help

31:00

has suffered so the end of time.

31:02

That. He loves you and

31:04

he needs bad enough,

31:08

if his daughter off on a search

31:10

your are was wonderful and it was groundbreaking

31:13

beyond ah George Carlin again I'm

31:15

George Carlin's. American Dream: I'm sure it's gonna

31:18

be great because just doesn't anything

31:20

that's not us, it's not careful,

31:22

but I'd like to comb through some of your history

31:24

making the movies. And before we do as.

31:28

i just want to ask you how tired in

31:30

general are you have this and what

31:32

are some of the things need to avoid because you very

31:34

passionate about promoting the stops you get

31:36

around and don't know where and how you're tired

31:38

of your own voice on some of the george carlin stuff

31:40

so carlin don't want as much as might imagine

31:43

you're very tired right up as you been doing a lot

31:45

of this

31:46

What are you know I love talking about a number is up

31:48

is an honor that I got the to mess around

31:51

in his sandbox. They come

31:53

and play around read, I've also been promoting his

31:55

books sick or the had right interviewed a lot of it's

31:57

comedians from now exacerbated code.

32:00

In and you know Amber Rapid

32:02

and Rami Usaf lot of the all these people

32:04

are like dreaded Nathan. fielder

32:07

i'm always obsessive comedians

32:09

Good. I'm a fan I'd probably go, how do you do

32:11

it and also in life, how do you not

32:13

lose your my, like you know people

32:16

are also stress will try? To figure out how to evolve

32:18

about be crazy and so

32:20

I really can't get enough of just

32:22

a world of comedians and why

32:25

they do it and if they can. Stay same

32:27

as do good work over long.

32:29

Period of time, good crowd, he was great for fifty

32:31

years, you know, lot of people they get.

32:34

They they do the same act their whole life where

32:36

they read at a gas or to the don't have any new

32:38

moves seventy five. Somebody

32:40

who just keeps reinventing themselves like

32:42

the Beatles, you know, like Pro Bear in

32:45

the Doctor's, you know, he started out doing love

32:47

me, do what he did and doing, you

32:49

know? The white album, "Do It Helter,

32:51

Skelter"

32:52

I. I'm familiar with what it is, you're saying

32:54

the new act stuff, you know, staying relevant,

32:57

I'm still making the same jokes that made for twenty years

32:59

anyway, I want that mount. Rushmore judge fill

33:01

that you said George Carlin was on

33:03

your mount, Rushmore, can you fill that out force?

33:05

Well, I mean, like so many people are

33:08

today, but obviously Richard Pryor is the one

33:10

that I. The put up there are getting.

33:13

The big about the older people are some great people

33:15

now it's hard to. In to judge

33:17

them, but always go to like Steve Martin

33:20

and Richard Pryor because. don't

33:22

know many people have reached those.

33:25

There are those pigs comedic way love Maria

33:27

Bamford, obviously we all have Chris Rock

33:30

and Chappelle and Bill

33:32

Burr, agree there's so

33:34

many people that are amazing right

33:36

now. It's a pretty incredible

33:39

time and mean Adam Sandler do instead

33:41

of and do in his music always

33:43

made me deliriously.

33:45

Happy. But there really are so

33:48

many people in Shetland, shelling was one of the I

33:50

love, though the you're still fascinated

33:52

by the world where funding comes from because it's

33:54

such. A strange weird insular

33:56

world there's so few of you just like you all

33:59

seem to know each.

34:00

They're the people who come all

34:02

of you seem to be friends, the people who

34:04

are on anchorman nervous or

34:07

the ballot of Ricky Bobby orr in the

34:09

comedy clubs are being raised in

34:11

L.A., near the comedy store, it seems like you

34:13

all know each other.

34:15

The ideas or any other business

34:17

that he just needed, you travel have a similar

34:19

circled, I think with comedians. Then.

34:22

Good every joke as an experiment, and all

34:24

of us never know if we're going to bomb we

34:27

hit with a surly empathize with

34:29

the struggled to stay buddy or to

34:31

even. Though of the next joker, the next movie

34:34

is good and probably we all

34:36

have similar mental problems that make us.

34:39

relate to each other in some way, you

34:41

don't have real an extraordinary

34:43

confidence as soon as you set out to make a movie.

34:46

No bigger than I did everything is a bit, it really

34:48

that experiment like one movie working

34:50

doesn't mean that next one will work,

34:53

so when you think of anybody you love

34:55

already, director.

34:57

If you go, you know, they made ten movies

34:59

and three or four great, it's pretty.

35:02

shocking is a high. The ratio

35:05

at, you know? They're. All just

35:07

swings and you just don't know when

35:09

you're going to with, and you have to have encouraged to just

35:11

go for it again, like when you see

35:13

basketball player. To the end of the game, he wants

35:16

the ball and he wanted to try, I

35:18

think that it's the same in comedy like give

35:20

me the ball, but know I'm. Gonna miss it half the

35:22

time, but gotta try

35:24

well your resume his extraordinary

35:27

so take me through this because you can never

35:29

know really what's going to. Hit, give me

35:31

the movie on your resume that

35:33

you thought when you sent it out the door.

35:35

This is amazing people are going to love this,

35:37

this is a home run and then somehow

35:40

ended up being disappointment because it didn't meet

35:42

your act or whatever it is you thought was at

35:44

the same as what are you know the world's AH? Well,

35:47

sometimes you know you like it, but.

35:49

You get a smaller crowd, it's really rabidly

35:52

into it. Then I loved the

35:54

a walk hard. The

35:56

was Bouvier Kuroda Jake, has in which he directed

35:59

with. Then. I think has lived odd

36:01

to be a real cult film and the people

36:03

really like it, but it opened up to like two

36:05

point nine million dollars and beat it was.

36:08

They did really wished at day was

36:10

so good, no and off, and

36:12

here's the thing I didn't do it the first, some actually walked

36:15

out the first time it took me a minute to

36:17

appreciate it like I.

36:19

It really did want card

36:21

was great, not good grades. into

36:24

specific joke, you know, exotic

36:26

the world is.

36:27

Manning. A parody of Ray

36:30

and Walk the Line, but it just so made us laugh,

36:32

and then when movies like the Queen movie came

36:34

out, people notice that the structure

36:37

of all. These views of things are the same

36:39

and the thing that we were goof a dog or

36:42

it unfortunately is something you almost

36:44

can't avoid when you make movie

36:46

we try. To compress of life, it's

36:48

baby minutes that it has to get weird.

36:52

How about the other way where you made a movie

36:54

you thought it's soft, okay, but

36:56

we all loved the, or you didn't you just enough

36:58

confidence you're like, ooh, I'm not sure about this?

37:01

Whatever you just don't know, what will explode?

37:05

I mean, did.

37:06

The end of a process we usually liked

37:08

the movie, lot of is never won weeding

37:10

out.

37:11

We don't like it is, just will people go

37:13

do it and so, you know, when something like.

37:16

The a good matchup came out and we loved

37:19

it.

37:19

The was your movie with the lead with Seth

37:22

rogan and katherine Heigl was at a TV show

37:24

in grades that I mean it wasn't like a mega

37:26

star.

37:27

Movie advantage as a giant

37:30

all around the world's and I remember

37:32

seeing people of every

37:34

type in line at the grove in

37:36

L.A., a the line as lot and he just

37:38

go and I'm in and understand how.

37:41

The connected like.

37:43

Something. About those people that idea bridesmaids

37:45

was like that where we liked it, but we

37:47

did know people would go in and they became

37:50

you never know, though, judge, you never

37:52

know. Where you're sending it out the door and you're like

37:54

this is absolutely funny and this will succeed

37:56

that's ness I mean you don't know with forty year

37:58

old Virgin you don't. Know?

38:00

What we're super bad you don't know

38:02

what with Anchorman, you don't know it

38:04

with Talladega nights, you don't know what would

38:06

forgetting Sarah Marshall.

38:08

Okay you know it's okay yeah

38:11

just proved me wrong yeah you'd

38:13

be able to do. something really

38:15

makes you laugh and Then you think

38:17

that you know this will be like? The

38:20

like a giant movie and some of

38:22

those were. good but that's great

38:24

you know they do like okay And

38:26

we think they're just as good as the one that did.

38:29

You. Know at time, but if any, I

38:31

mean, it really doesn't matter because everyone watches everything

38:33

sooner or later, guess no movie

38:36

that doesn't get see like you

38:38

saw walk. argued it like it and you still

38:40

watched it again and that liked it, a people

38:42

get around to finding

38:44

work hard and so between streaming

38:47

and everything is on as we. Like it. Though

38:50

that really bad as good as eventual people get

38:52

so bored, they watch everything.

38:55

Can? You walk us through on

38:57

the if I ask you some rapid fire question,

39:00

just sort of stream of the though, because you really

39:02

are good analyst of these people

39:04

and how. They make comedy, so when asked Judd

39:06

apatow in his life among these

39:08

comedians, the one most likely that if

39:10

you pick up the phone you're going to laugh,

39:12

you're going. To laugh the most, because when that person

39:14

calls you a, it's going to be funny

39:17

as to from your world, does that distinction

39:19

belongs to the?

39:20

The who actually makes you laugh like

39:22

really just chat with that I did carry Kevin

39:24

Hart does.

39:26

I mean, he really is

39:28

funny as hell and when he talks will be

39:30

like.

39:31

Oh yeah, this is why every the world loves them because

39:33

dizzy like chatting of the comedy cellar. Right

39:36

asleep, funny and bill birth like

39:38

that, too, if he was that. The

39:40

body with you.

39:42

He's right about that seems like there might be

39:44

a handful though to of it's calling you and sometimes

39:46

you might want to let it go to voicemail because it's

39:48

lot of effort at the thought of Iraq is.

39:53

an address any he's spitting

39:55

bile i'm as which of your movies

39:58

would you say has the most The

40:00

lab in it. In

40:02

degree, yeah. You

40:04

know?

40:06

Well. The movie, we just did the bubble, we did it enormous

40:08

about it in private, and it started Netflix movie about,

40:10

like, all the actors in the hotel during

40:12

the pandemic trying. To make a dinosaur action

40:15

movie, then, you know, we in the middle of the

40:17

pandemic we were like.

40:18

That's. Be the people who tried to make a comedy about

40:20

this, it's know it all seems have the courage

40:22

to do it and so we had taken Michael Key

40:25

there who was. Pretty and proud of our

40:27

been really one of the great improvises of all time

40:29

and Karen Gillan, you know, from do my jeans,

40:32

lousy was in and that. It

40:34

also like dagger in movies are pretty heavily.

40:38

improvise but also Adam McKay will

40:40

fail feed them incredible lines

40:42

as there. Hawking have

40:44

lead of lot of those moments I am in a glass

40:46

case of emotion, you know, milk

40:48

was bad choice like those are things that occurred

40:51

to him in the moments.

40:53

Then you give us some of the nasty details

40:55

of the letter you wrote the Steve Martin after

40:58

he did not give you an autograph. Well.

41:01

So funny because.

41:03

Then. Kid, you just don't understand

41:05

like you shouldn't walk up to people's homes

41:08

at, school I don't want like

41:10

strangers the food on as usual, just

41:12

walk it up your. House and but did

41:14

note and thirty by the saw him outside

41:16

his house and walk up to him and asked for his autograph,

41:18

and rightly he said no

41:21

because I. Don't do that at my house, my

41:23

sense of a letter in said if he didn't send me an

41:25

apology, I was going to save his address, the homes

41:28

of the stars. And he would have tour buses

41:30

has been some uncertainty is managed

41:32

by your accent, least threatening seem

41:34

smart and south for not giving you an, autograph

41:37

have any set. Me any book added said the,

41:39

though, he wrote it to Jet: "I'm sorry

41:41

didn't realize was big into the judd

41:43

apatow job as the funny thing about

41:46

that. Is so crazy that was

41:48

forty, two years I'm,

41:51

old as shit and

41:54

Muslim judd. apatow that

41:56

of those who would you say because

41:58

you mentioned saw super In Cohen and

42:01

if just a genius to you Joe

42:03

she just genius like what word association

42:06

where you go in there I. mean that is

42:08

right up there it has the most courage of anyway i

42:10

think what he does is actually dangerous

42:12

like he should some day that at the end of

42:14

the a people are searching for him

42:17

like people want to hurt to have in

42:19

have very real way and i think he's

42:21

also brilliant about the point

42:23

of those bits and what he's trying to say about

42:25

people and human nature so yeah

42:27

he's certainly one of them

42:29

George. Carlin's American Dream will debut

42:31

on H. B. O. on back to Back Nights, part

42:33

one debuts Friday, May twentieth

42:35

sites is Friday, a PM part to

42:37

Saturday I could talk to. This

42:40

guy for a long time both episodes

42:42

will be available on H. B. O. Max or

42:44

beginning Friday, the last of

42:46

the last thing before I get you out here though. How?

42:49

much a bad ended up on your forehead

42:51

because of how you are clutch the pearls

42:53

on will smith slapping chris rock and

42:57

us and saying he could have died there

42:59

and assistance and then i was anxious

43:01

is in the academy takes itself very seriously

43:04

and now judd apatow is the scared

43:07

sense of self of

43:09

buddy is that like The lot.

43:12

There by at any time a very

43:14

large man smashes double in the

43:16

face, but you don't know what's gonna happen, so

43:18

obviously that didn't habits but also worth

43:21

Chris like. Hit him back

43:23

like what could have turned into. Right

43:25

so obviously. he's my friend

43:28

and friend you know it's very upset that anybody

43:30

would hit my friend certainly over like soft

43:32

jokes Certainly felt

43:35

enough problems and has led to.

43:38

The other people who are own

43:40

hands. Losing

43:42

control around comedians, it's very

43:44

scary thing, is that signal. "The

43:46

drunk people are unbalanced people that you get

43:48

hit people stuff", I said

43:50

by being very concerned about it and

43:53

death, "I certainly hope we

43:55

don't see more of it, but if can't

43:57

say that we won't so, but you're

43:59

making a lot"

44:00

Between that and what happened, what's your pal

44:02

on stage or I think it's

44:04

students like your unstable people

44:06

seeing behavior on

44:08

some level, they think oh we're allowed to

44:10

do this now?

44:12

And I do think it is, it

44:14

is a weird, like dog whistle to

44:17

people who are not, you know, mentally

44:19

all their job, I hope we can do

44:21

it again, urge everybody to watch and I'm sure

44:24

that if he made it is good thank you, sir.

44:26

Thank you guys think it'd be well thank you, John. The,

44:29

yeah.