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ccc dan lebatard with
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podcast
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i
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i would to publicly and formally
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apologize to the audience
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on behalf of the show not
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just because tony didn't
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do his job correctly was criticized
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and then lashed out by telling the customers
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to suck it up because billy,
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then countered immediately thereafter with
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you want see something hold my beer
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it actively have so much bad
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stuff on supported the
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or wherever else it is that i'm
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trying to hide stuff that i'm putting aside codes
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in different places that ,
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he says he's putting time puts his actively
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trying to deceive me undies the weight of you try
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to correct would tony was science was
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to say i'm actively trying to
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trick the audience by being and
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playing time towards in looked unhelpful
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but being less helpful does i want you to stick
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around through the bad bad
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, now know
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that el salvador's to do as
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route value right oh okay first
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oh all earnest
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know funny semantics
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here with word and i'll try to how volume
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trying to help out sorry i also would like
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in it or it did compare it to
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you know how you don't like eating vegetables
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when you're younger that is right
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you don't like veggies and
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, there are your parents
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have the kind of trick you into eating veggies
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that's what i do sometimes
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when the time codes are involved because i feel
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thank you i am a good that's that's where i think sometimes
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if we put in the time codes everyone's
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going to want to go to the french fries and the macaroni
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and cheese and the catch up and all the fun
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stuff rights and know wants to eat
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brussel sprouts or whatever
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the hell and what you're an oscillator nutritious you're
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just saying that bad you know hundred ml
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same thing with vegetable his own you take
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them straight to the sax they have to sit through
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it bride to get to the sex of rough
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it's boss the do vegetables or
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the i get a forgetting sex in our
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contacts light like
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everything get to the sex when two
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people thought no
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evidently no evidently what would you describe
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is our various other acts like a good
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a daughter with reagan self know maybe the
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magic i didn't a local our local
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us and i may end up a fuss
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sex i than a while for his youth you to
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had an argument i am delighted
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beds are among the many things we haven't
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been able to build around here in
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the time we've been doing this farting out
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three hours of what billie saying bad
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is what content to death one
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of the things we have been able to erect
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in the last eighteen months is it kitchen
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will have
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and even that the
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region we've erected the
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the monster i heard enjoys
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off his exam or it wasn't just that it
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wasn't just that most of the only took the
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cheese off the delicious egg sandwiches
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but he also was talking about
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the benihana is mustard which
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i don't know about me i'm sauce know
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of no yes no difference
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was know he was
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in this was a full fledged argument because
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i felt like he a blast seemed against chris cody
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and you guys have talked before about how much you love
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the yum yum sauce i was just shocked
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though to hear whittingham say and we've learned
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whittingham number of the shocking things around him today
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that he just drinks just mustard they're
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just they're he's not even waiting for the meets
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and stuff he's just he's slurping
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sees monsters legitimately
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i'd i'd i'd love his flavors
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so much will discontinue this mustard
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because what did you ever give ever a ginger
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sauce and of your yum yum side so
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guess my first many hot experience
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is crawling around like two thousand and eight two thousand and
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nine and nine remember vg
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give up the ginger and that it was the mustard
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i did the yum the yum was a later addition
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for this benihana look at an office as
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it is specific to the one that i went to a miramar
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the i remember it's been a mustard
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sauce and appears incredibly well with
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a steak with a chicken with a trip with any kind of
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meats are just love the flavor
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of this particular kind of must it's other looking
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for this kind of mustard other places i've googled
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see if i can make it myself with some sort
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of at home recipe i have not able to
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find this mustard anywhere else for your
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app your be as the betting on it during is not
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the yum yum sauce and you're also saying it's
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not that spicy mustard that you get
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a chinese restaurant sometimes that
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is you gotta be very careful with
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it's it's super it's
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it as sparks on it you eat
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too much of it's your it'll hurt it'll your
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inside of your brain and brain scalds what are the ones that
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i've tried in the search for muster
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the taste like taste benihana mustard now it's
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just me saying average mustard
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right you could just be like your normal bog standard
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muster before never reasons this
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particular place and the weight pairs with
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the food at any haunt us from
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and his lunch option by the way i know lot of people whenever
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i say to felt like i like go out
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and yonder for months ago as you said it evokes
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and have them cook know the have areas are you don't have this
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have the whole dog and pony show so i go
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there a lot for lunches very economical long
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ago therefore the doggie the i already
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, a bow has been a experience
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with the i had volcano the matter of
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a dog would i mean i love i
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love the dog and pony show however
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you don't want to go to it like once every
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three weeks i like the idea of a party
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of one and does wouldn't say
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how can i know the and is that how it is
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a consensus around as a day
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by day will want to try to cover let's just keep it
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moving up a enough so when he gets
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the betty on his mustard sauce
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okay there is mustard recipe online
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it is their version of dark bum
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it's not dark real hard big guys have arisen
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bachelor is their version of yum yum
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saws that's all it is but it's
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better of but as is now they serve
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what is traditionally known as yum yum sauce
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which is as very orange he taste and
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i'd it's this is is not for me i like
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the if i don't know what i'm you taste
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is what's an orange cases like orange
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split zesty mail yeah exactly
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it's mail that's that's really more of may
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i zero zero what you nailed that
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unzipped and , terrible you
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said party of one and i actually thought
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that what you were doing is reducing the
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dog and pony show to a dog
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traveling by himself sad because
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the ponies died or or vice
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versa the pony is traveling south following
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me could could
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of he should have been paid more the boat as i
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got more the more is
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as i have that at hours if at a dog
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and pony show so you can have
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to put it on the pole please gemmell at laboratory
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job ten you have just
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the dog or just the pony
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in a dog and pony show the stuff
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of i'm still have the same party because
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i think it might be sad i
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do understand what would a game say now because
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it as sesame seeds in it it's delightful
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it's a great sorry now i have
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no love the yum yum sauce or like sikora
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house or like a rip off betty hada
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localized drinks too cause he's
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drinking it for serving sauces
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that you could drag isaac wouldn't have about me
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a botanist the salsa
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atla bomb iraq thereby
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average ship or not i will drink that sherrod
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out of the top it up ads as the idea
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that as well so yeah happens with the mustard
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sauce you if they give
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you enough for a hearty meal rights to the steak
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and chicken and shrimp goes in there's poor little
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bit on top of the fried rice dunk the
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that the vegetables has a give you in the mustard sauce and
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sometimes as a little bit left over love
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the flavor this muster that's a stick a fork in
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their put him a mouth is just the mustard you're
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speaking roy's language right now he
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is just nodding and smiling silently
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just with great approval you have
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never spoken a greater truth according
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to reuters face or as we guess
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is that thing off melia is right there
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for you isn't it obvious started with top fibroid
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condiments at that table i heard
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that be granted about and so let's just so
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it's roy hill i will allow him defines
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whatever it is the filing cabinet is where
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is where his top five condiments because this
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is where that conversation started stress
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why was he us rosato whittingham
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we're learning is the weird eater here and
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he's got a lot of a lot of eccentric
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stuff i
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don't mind it i'd like i i don't i know
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and particular i know i'm difference
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but i don't mind telling chris you know what
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not really a cheese guy don't have
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a lot of room for many jesus my life try
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to lot of i'm never heard that says you
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can't trust somebody knows that i throw says
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always room for geez what
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around the pole guillermo please is there are always
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room for cheese still weird drooping
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of words a rare food items
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that you can't have too much up like you could
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say almost any food item you you can
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what what's the island of much ,
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cheap a cheap ballpark nachos
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or movie theater nachos if you give me a
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liquid he cheated on me than that
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not alive even shia it's not
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even she you guys you've gotta have you can
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its own drew why don't you know you don't want [unk] cheese
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you're saying that nacho cheese at the theater
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is not orange gala it's orange gala
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it's just goo it's has no representation
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of food have any york the romantic
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but it'll put it on the pole please outlet
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be charged show is the movie
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theater cheese nachos
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or are they just orange
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do and nothing else know nutrients
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it's just do they ever do factor
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in somewhere that pain is orange and they slap
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it out there and they send some sort
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of costs and nine cents when i love
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is to let that see sit for about two to
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three minutes and , get that top
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layer of skin of just
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i don't know what it is i
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asked my it's awesome as it's is that ship
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in there and pull that off layer that
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us billie are you publicly
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advocating for the cheese skyn
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because it seems to have delighted you
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to refer to something is something skin
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and now i'm thinking of grid of death punishment
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that would force one of us to be in here
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we were again why to him suspects i
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heard you talking about it yes to that there
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are only about forty punishments
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outstanding around here before we had to start
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another sees adding that are all forgiven if
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i remember it , my home
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with me me the very
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something funny about mean just
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trudging and sadly and being the only
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one who wants to play and like it
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meant out and god and i'm happy home and
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want to diligently adhering to my
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punishment as like coming punishment
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as just staring at all of you as you say
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customers audience and were actively
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trying to deceive them around the bad
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stuff i were super we gotta know
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what you're talking about them in a dead well
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let's talk about this because this makes me laugh
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together weeks and i want i
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want the audience
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the walk me through something that you know
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that i have cared about all over
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the years and i will not bore you with
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the specifics of why i care about journalism
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or why i
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think it's important during this particular
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time and and twenty twenty four where i think
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the microphones are really gonna matter that
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i think it's important for journalism
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to be president so that
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government corruption and the behavior
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of rich people and power
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abusers can be kept in check
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by one of the system over
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the years i have seen a
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number of appalling things happened to this
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thing i care about i will not bore you with the details
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of this i will not but i just want to take
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it somewhere and ask you guys a question because i think
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it's a place where i
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lose i lose forever and
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the thing that i care about doesn't actually
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matter to use of people listening to me
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maybe to some of you to varying degrees but
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i want to take you down the path as i see ronan
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farrow on h b o max doing
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a story called endangered talking about
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news deserts and all of these places
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where the corruption is unchecked
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and our systems are failing because there aren't
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enough newspaper resources to
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tell people who abuse power
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the shame them into stopping the abuse
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of power the reason
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i bring all of this up is because
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i have a difficulty talking
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about some of the things that happen
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etti as pn which i believe
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that when i was at ias pan
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i talked about at their microphones
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without sounding like i'm bitter
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or angry have any criticism
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when i've always just cared about this thing and tried
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to be an ombudsman on behalf of the saints
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and point out conflict of interest that exist
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everywhere with an all of this of this
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navigate the landscape of stupid
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playground silly journalism
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that you find in sports them
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chef during the washington post their a lot
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of anonymous e s p n people
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russia
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in the washington post the
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newspaper that i still think matters
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but i don't think you think matters
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i say this to the audience i say this to merrick
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i say it's to everybody i don't
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think that you think these entities matter that
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much anymore the washington post though
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the is reporting about something in sports
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media that i don't think that most of the
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people listening to this care about
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when it comes to adam shifter
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and be anonymous quotes and against
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god's i do i like
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adam shifter and i and adam shifter
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was
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the newspaper journalist of the highest
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order now what has been
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birds from these information guys is
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something different that has certain compromises
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that my
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previously held beliefs about the
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prehistoric dinosaur the journalism was
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have been dead and buried there and elsewhere
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that's your city as ps what you
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have in the story from the washington post's
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are anonymous quotes crushing adam shifter
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with the
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the ancillary
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bonus of people
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saying the has been they care
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about this they just paid him nine
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million dollars a year it doesn't matter whether
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there are conflicts and credibility
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hits or how this gets vetted or
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adam shifters very good man a very
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good man with good relationships a very
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good man with good relationships was done a good job
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for a long time but to be what he is now
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requires
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the touch of sixteen thousand dollars
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in chocolates and to sources during
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the holidays because he's everybody likes
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shuster his if he knows how valuable
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information is there's been
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some questionable ways recently that his
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been gotten a now these anonymous quotes or
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in the newspaper and i don't believe anyone cares
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i believe that there yet he has pm is dead
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they will not announce it they don't have to
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announce it they chose journalism as an option they
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didn't have to they had conflict of interest they've got
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business partners who are partners what the league's
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little have to do journalism if no one
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cares about the journalism and no one cares
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except employs that adam shifter might
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be doing the job ninety eight percent
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super professionally and two percent there's
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some stuff here that had some conflict since
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i don't think the people listening to this care
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about what i'm saying at all igloos
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and i lose forever this gets paid this
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gets cheaper and this gets bots and
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it i don't even mean it as a criticism of he has pm
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it's a business decision they made sister
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and how he does this is more valuable
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than having a be a hundred percent pure
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on contaminated journalism
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he could stop thinking about whether or not
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people care they don't care we don't care
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we just want our information we
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wanted quickly we wanted to be accurate
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we wanted to come from a credible source adam
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scepter gives us all of that but at other and
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on accurate is and tricky when he hasn't done
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anything wrong what's that anything while of that were
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no but also wrong morally
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when he's compromised by an agent
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and he's advocating for delvon caught
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advocating a domestic abuse situation that ceases
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to be his public camping terry camping accurate
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it's not it's the bidding of so the rabbit
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them on the bottom end of that the know it's not
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just the accuracy of does he get
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the reports right that's one kind
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of important
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no i'm doing the distinctions of nuance on
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right the wrongs to got and
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where journalism governs here and
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journalism makes you adhere
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to a standard that has no longer today's standard
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and by cheapening today's standard what's your
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love for is that the
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biggest boys with the biggest microphone with the biggest
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platform in information went out
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there and did bidding for delvon cooks
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ages
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on a domestic abuse case i don't know what happened
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in a domestic abuse case but it can't be that
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to god can it's can can the people listening that's
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not care about that either
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you don't care and it deserves to be either
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or
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you're allowed to do know that and
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also don't mind so much that i will still
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traffic and all the things that are adam shifter dr
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foster mom everything those just mistakes
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but he's had a brutal six months and just got
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paid for more than any information guys ever
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been paid like crazy because their
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business decision has been made this
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stuff doesn't matter that much anymore
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we're if we get it ninety eight percent right we're fine
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as actually i just really oversimplifying it by
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saying that nobody cares i do think
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in luton particularly in modern social
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media there a lot of people that try to
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deconstruct where the information
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is coming from that are trying to figure
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out you know what were the motives
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are this is been talked lot about the particular
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and and be a free agency with you know
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the there has been information
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it's clearly come from certain places and
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the brain when horse ranch is something of an
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indication of there are things that you don't
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know
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that are going on and are conflicting
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with the general consensus that's out there let's
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talk about this one okay let's talk about the
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one that happen there's to god's does it matter
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to you in any way that when horses doing
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that mean thing of pointing for two and a half minutes
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because it would appear there's a culture
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of fear at e s p n word gotta be
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the reporting his roaches whoa just or lead
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guy here however it is that we
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get to and everyone fears watch everyone
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fears disappointing wage everyone fears
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are running askew of
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would you sources are progressing road
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from doing his job correctly all of a weird
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right well but does it matter because watch
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here again you're saying and another one of the senses
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of all my information that were roaring the behavior
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were of whatever it is if you don't want to judge
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it and you don't want to say it's cheapening if
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you don't think it's worthy of criticism there's
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no disputing that however it is that shepherd
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won't get their information they become
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bigger than the network in
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in the way italy than the networks news operation
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like they'd be are the new separate are
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there there's a a and that power
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ten be abused if everyone's if indeed
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it so that everyone
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is fearing so much that winners
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when i was doesn't do a search
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that a story like would also the history of windows
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is great his job for twenty years no matter
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what you think of it is journalism of
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the highest order in this realm no realm no
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how is that you want to parses
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he's very careful about how he
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reports is news and makes of make
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sure that he's dub the proper context
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on it but there are people you're telling me there
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a peabody as be added don't want to report
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stop because they wanted coming from one
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last visit know
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what was coming from loads
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what has been theorized by a mean if you
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are listening here when he's been taught
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hi try not to a me miss would
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know more about this than i do any
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then again
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i don't know about a culture of fear
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around would drive only heard of
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a culture of fear about watch and when
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i saw what happened with when horse when i
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saw where he's talking around something
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without saying it it made me
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think of what i had heard
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about the culture of fear around watch
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and i don't know that the audience
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cares about that either how you get your information
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does probably doesn't matter if people are super
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in the weeds who care about that stuff
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and and followed on social media and follow a
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war between songs and woes
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to figure out who's winning but it's
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a very small that wedi i'm it
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is maybe maybe on my up a because i'm
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on twitter all the time you're in the business
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know but i've got but you don't you look at the
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replies over the top of the event or is
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higher than replies a big stories is that about the news
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right about that won't read sums by forty
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three seconds asos votes wins this or that
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of the replies are for i'm saying is is
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that all these things get discussed
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right and adam sessler being out the gets
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ripped on social media but that doesn't
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mean that the next time that aj brown gets traded
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to the eagles he's or the tweets it's little like immediately
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likely would have been set to notifications
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and we don't read sweet it's real consume the news
20:28
that he has provided us rights it's a
20:30
yes i know is that that's out there but it doesn't diminish
20:33
his value because you got to said
20:35
i care so much about what the information is
20:37
even if i'm gonna find out about it and and mint maybe
20:40
i should care about how he goes about
20:42
getting his information maybe i should care i
20:45
don't then i am not going to apologize
20:47
for that because i simply don't care i
20:49
just want the information
20:51
i don't care how the sausage is made just
20:54
give me the information that's important to me
20:56
and give it to be as quickly as possible that are
20:58
really care about how quickly you give
21:00
it to me like i don't do the things are world's
21:02
gotta would first jobs god to adverse
21:05
was shows of my timeline whoever sent
21:07
it out sense in a how dumb months i'm
21:09
not comparing to do and i think most people
21:12
who care about this stuff with care about sports
21:14
gear about the information at don't care
21:16
about how these people go about getting their information
21:19
that's only care about with as bad as it's only
21:21
so there are facts right aj
21:23
brown gets traded to the eagles for a second
21:25
round pick in the sixth round pick such as information
21:28
that is one hundred percent fact but
21:30
it's when you know adam shifters
21:32
reporting on this news stories
21:35
surrounding to sun watson of their
21:37
surroundings off the field things
21:39
or presenting oath this organization
21:42
is a problem with this person when
21:44
it's seat when he could be seem to that you are
21:46
carrying water for somebody to the you're
21:48
presenting one side of the arguments what is
21:50
the other person and that interaction say that's
21:53
when you get into gray areas about were
21:55
you doing favors for korea relationships
21:58
with and that's why people try and
21:59
now because what what are
22:02
you what is your agenda year and
22:04
i i don't think that's what people want
22:06
from their news to when people realize it's
22:08
there's a framing to things and not just here's
22:10
who got traded for this is the
22:13
extra stuff it's the sources tell
22:15
me that blank well who are those
22:17
sources in why are they telling you that
22:20
i've just always operated under the a subject
22:22
i understand what you're saying and some of a tin
22:24
can make you wince a little bit add some of this
22:27
has right to him i don't realize
22:29
how much it affects your view of people
22:31
have personalities of athletes like that's
22:33
of entering the public consciousness seeds
22:36
narratives about who people are
22:38
and that's why it can be dangerous ah i'm
22:40
not saying it's not dangerous all on
22:42
doing is responding to damn when he asked me
22:44
do you think people care of it you care
22:47
i know you care or no deal or no
22:49
i think most people don't i thanks to god speaks
22:51
for most in this realm but
22:54
the reason that i find it interesting beyond
22:56
just the corporates winking of
22:59
you have and don't you don't need to make it about
23:01
anonymous people at
23:03
d s p n ripping schefter just
23:05
make it about the acquisition in
23:08
the information age, creative
23:12
contents, all over the place netflix and
23:14
everyone else aren't sharing information with
23:17
their people who make stuff
23:20
they're not sharing it because they don't want
23:22
anyone to have leverage information, is
23:24
a currency it's currency like we've
23:26
never seen before in
23:28
this realm where sean's and wolves
23:30
and whether someone wins by 43, makes
23:33
them the only two guys you think of in
23:35
the sphere because somehow whoa
23:37
to does his job in a way that i've never understood
23:41
i marveled at how that man could
23:43
be that good at the acquisition of information
23:45
and wondered how does he do that now
23:48
has a protege who's in his mid twenties
23:50
who does it just as well who's figured out
23:52
whatever the secret sauce is competing with
23:54
him and now they're only two
23:56
it's to there's no three doctor
23:58
other people to break
23:59
but it's two guys in the stratosphere
24:02
we're we're paying seven and nine million dollars
24:04
for years and we'll need a whole news department
24:07
will pay one person that whites
24:09
are we to do with nine million
24:11
dollars a year in information on
24:13
a bunch of twenty year olds know
24:16
one dude is our news department and if
24:18
he gets it wrong and it's contaminated one
24:20
do
24:21
the boys for all of us on this
24:23
then you just apologize two
24:27
the victims along the way
24:30
yes and their been more of them in the last i
24:32
know months than we've ever seen out in public
24:34
on how these guys do this job
24:36
but he has be at is telling us we're
24:38
going to have some is absorbed to apologize
24:40
along the way but we trust this guy because
24:42
his got relationships and against us the news
24:45
and as accurate as a died is
24:47
valuable yeah and you do
24:49
what with the anonymous quotes you do
24:51
what's with the washington post or because again
24:53
these are things i also think people don't care about
24:56
if the starting point is you don't actually care about newspapers
24:58
and news and how this information gathered
25:00
and and beyond that you're reading a profile
25:03
about him scepter in which people are quoting
25:05
a quoted anonymously being unhappy the
25:07
newspapers but you'll kill the media news either
25:09
frail you don't care about anything but
25:11
the information who's your valuable information guys
25:14
than you do what with a story that anonymously
25:16
rips adam scepter someone who likes him cares
25:19
about him is friends with images read the cloak quickly
25:21
before service to god yes as here is
25:23
your preeminent journalist for the preeminent
25:25
swore at america's said one one honor
25:28
for he has been personalities i would hope that as
25:30
a never you're embarrassed by that but i'm blown
25:32
away that e s p n doesn't seem to care i
25:36
would say there's a tinge of jealousy their
25:38
to how much money he's making how he goes
25:40
about making his money and i would i would guess
25:43
that these quotes are gabi and from
25:46
, who still watch odds of those kinds
25:48
of things people who still care about journalism
25:50
be done or the right way
25:53
right just think they're just think minority now
25:55
i do that he defied people are
25:57
always get a care about journalism the weights
26:00
the do it the proper way and they
26:02
found a few and again
26:04
i'll say i think they're in the vast minority
26:06
i think most people including peabody as be
26:08
i do not dare they they got observed earth
26:11
does a fantastic job i think that
26:13
you are largely right and in the signs that he's not
26:15
doing a fantastic job they will take
26:17
whatever hits that come from the other times that
26:19
he does the fantastic job but the
26:21
place
26:23
that i separate from you on
26:25
this because it can be here not caring about it
26:28
sir when they're attacking the
26:30
capital it
26:32
happens successfully next time
26:35
i want a press that has strings
26:37
like you can do it in sports is like i don't care what
26:39
people don't care elsewhere
26:42
people are infected by what it is the you're saying
26:44
here alone knowing they don't trust the media
26:47
don't trust the media so much that the least
26:49
sophisticated person in the
26:51
world
26:53
pathological liar
26:56
i'm probably criminal
26:58
who doesn't know anything but com
27:01
nothing but khan was able to
27:03
do damage to that entity because
27:05
people hate and don't respect don't
27:07
like and don't trust that entity so much
27:09
that they would trust somebody yeah
27:11
doing what trump did it's a add other you're
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the thought of somebody where is where there
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attracting sportsman the
29:02
better when a local reporter get something post
29:05
do i enjoy when a local reporter gives a scoop
29:07
we're gonna emails eating woodson's
29:09
when like barry jackson break something on the
29:11
heat on ,
29:13
happy guy like really have to put you
29:16
in it as a
29:18
favor to bears are using
29:20
the same guy though you they go to deal with
29:22
the same guys buried under you know his
29:24
name sources of no one of
29:26
no sources never the barry
29:29
is only dealing with the by enjoy
29:31
doing with one scene and so occasionally
29:34
is gonna sneak one pass words watch as
29:36
entirely the cover i realize until
29:38
i started working in the media that the
29:40
whole reason why national guys get stuff
29:42
is because there's like an information trading
29:45
that local guys don't have anything to do the
29:47
trading with until like they can't
29:49
go to the gm of their local team be like
29:51
hey i know this about the clippers
29:53
outrageous information i got
29:56
this in the clippers i'll tell you what's gonna with the pacers
29:58
and die and we
30:01
can exchange information and that's how it all gets
30:03
done i didn't know that you're teaching their and
30:05
now i know a swab the as
30:07
if us while we're like thought i always thought
30:09
it's a team wanting something out there was
30:11
a who's my guy or them and give you that i'm a i'm not
30:13
saying it's always app what i'm saying is that because
30:16
those in chapter know things were all thirty and
30:18
thirty two teams there can be an exchange
30:21
of information as well as a give eating
30:23
and for roses ever telling somebody
30:25
something wrong just like here's all and fro for
30:27
you that's not x i'm either did i go wrong with this
30:29
now he doesn't want to get information again than probably
30:32
that wouldn't be how to develop source is chris
30:34
but that is a good when no no no no selling
30:36
album reporters and go wrong with laser
30:38
do in your favor i think that reminders know
30:40
how do i do him any favors out of a year ago
30:43
does ever tell it now little said begun no information
30:45
now even though it's been a thousand percent
30:47
on he might be telling a line
30:49
that somebody ones out there but that
30:52
i'd i think he would probably tried that and
30:54
see if it's true the poor
30:56
like i don't i don't think these
30:58
people go by doing their jobs unethically is what
31:00
i'm saying i don't i don't think he's trying to let's go do
31:02
a favor by telling instead a whole segment
31:05
on how old is pretty on ethical i
31:07
don't know that that's what we do we were doing
31:09
an article for he just like undermining
31:11
people he seems like a bully arm
31:14
well what well did was you
31:16
guys with no reporting whatsoever
31:18
me with circumstantial evidence
31:21
in the voice of a mean because i don't
31:23
know and i'm cities are probably get aggregated
31:25
to and now again trouble with load because
31:28
i don't get out of i'm turned off assess
31:30
assess of i'm not i'm actually
31:32
saying more number on more
31:35
than most i am not scared of him ah
31:37
however
31:39
when i see what it is
31:41
that's happening now and a meme goes
31:43
viral with when horst afraid to tell
31:45
me the news for two minutes
31:47
i'm watching him on television afraid to
31:49
tell me the news that a beer goggles snobbery
31:51
becomes you say it's ridiculous becomes a meme
31:54
and i'm like what was your friend tells the news
31:56
of piecing together some of the things
31:58
that i don't know because i don't
31:59
wow watch does his job but
32:02
the last few years ago a closer look
32:04
at some of the inspections on they stop and
32:07
not all of it is it's not to
32:10
clean the way we used to do journalism
32:12
standards that we no longer do that
32:14
way because people don't seem to care at all
32:17
including the one that's paying them
32:19
the most and valuing here
32:21
doesn't matter how you get the every just to get the
32:23
and from as i do want to put florida when horse
32:25
point of view as so as to not make it seem like this
32:28
is how he feels he has said in interviews
32:30
since that he doesn't like
32:32
aggregation which is he says
32:34
something on a podcast and then there's and
32:37
headlines about it and then his editors call
32:39
them and say why don't you report this for us
32:41
as because why don't one hundred percent know it was
32:43
over the course of conversation things are going
32:45
to come out that i know that
32:47
i don't one hundred percent know but i could know it's
32:50
a heated want to say i think rudy go bears
32:52
getting prayer for for for for for some pics
32:54
because that if it doesn't happen he looks
32:56
like a boot
32:57
i'm surprised that
32:59
people care about the information
33:02
so deeply and i thought
33:04
care about the information business
33:07
not about the details so much of
33:09
the information act as a
33:12
fleet they care about the horse race there's
33:14
a who's winning and loads
33:16
really yeah no series i'm telling her is a vote
33:18
broad psalms into then the
33:20
vertical at yahoo and was
33:22
kind of like gonna handle it seem like basically
33:25
whoa it was tired of reporting who
33:27
the g league with signing it's like
33:29
a way some much handle the g league but
33:31
to handle like us where i was
33:34
random m b a player that like i was hindered
33:36
blue canard is going i'll get the rest of the stuff
33:38
he point a he pawned that off to
33:40
our decided to be out in fort i knew
33:43
that seems like how it happened in and but i found
33:45
anybody so idea that people are are
33:47
are afraid of what who's whoa what
33:50
his wounds outs a good dad gave
33:52
wow salvaged from nowhere the world's
33:55
ever monopoly ever monopoly i you know cause
33:57
this is not how this has no fair sell
33:59
you guys
33:59
sorry things and ultimately
34:02
it all lands on me what
34:04
all of it lands on may so you yes
34:06
out there are any number of friendship you have cost
34:08
me in this business because sorry about that i
34:11
console evil as i had to have
34:13
at it just do it all
34:15
, ago walks around he has been
34:17
living with that woes has a monopoly
34:20
on m b a news god forbid anyone
34:22
else dare step on his
34:24
turf on his territories and
34:26
reports of the that they know because they
34:28
have sources do because bri
34:30
wind horse has met a lifetime sabrina
34:33
same league as eight rewards
34:35
are on skis was that was
34:37
me to god saying it caused the deal
34:39
of his art show that was me saying
34:41
it's not dare do not shove words as advance
34:44
math i am tired of people being
34:46
intimidated by you i am tired
34:48
of people being scared of you i'm
34:50
tired of people walking of ads are
34:52
eggshells around the bristol campus
34:55
at he as the head for has virtually
34:57
bri wind or will be i know
35:00
now why because he worked very hard
35:02
to worry portfolios so
35:04
who should be a small minded everyone's services
35:07
world and when doors windows
35:09
were not wanted to record numbers
35:11
fell apart you don't have raised him
35:13
and he just sits humid you imagine
35:15
humid you moment with you rich ripping
35:17
loads and you took out winners for no good
35:20
reason right and winners didn't say any of
35:22
us do on tried again what what know
35:24
but wooden doors is one of those guys who's like
35:26
scared to report news was as close
35:28
as but i feel like he is what sets about
35:30
five minutes ago didn't care about any of as
35:33
i still don't buy low sell
35:35
your try it again again this is
35:37
to god speaking not damn of adored
35:39
i go home to they'll have it's our job woods to god's
35:41
words of tired of
35:43
here's the deal you do not have a monopoly
35:45
on m b a news if other people want
35:47
to report it feel free to reborn it's i'm
35:50
tired of guides and i self
35:52
is a bit when i was there are people
35:54
walking on eggshells around words
35:57
they can't report and be a news
35:59
bryan we
35:59
door to spend a lifetime covering
36:02
the same exact leagues
36:04
that you have covered for your life
36:06
sides why did he reportedly
36:08
he has no was a marc stein report
36:11
news why can't why is obama
36:13
was iraq or phrase a report
36:15
lose their jobs to be reporters
36:18
to be journalists as they're not doing
36:20
their job wise because whoa just
36:22
getting in the was let me be
36:24
clear enough for him i'm
36:27
not going to follow him anymore there's
36:29
other people have news jobs as
36:31
it know your does your life as he
36:34
has his and on follow any i
36:36
may david aldridge details were dropped
36:38
a story i mean i've done
36:40
with words there's on deadline day though
36:42
he got it you cannot smoke in my
36:46
eyes words don't mean anything stir god
36:48
saudi on follow
36:52
you guys
36:54
there you have to agree with me on this i
36:56
don't have to agree we should agree with nine
36:58
as be on the right side of history and you
37:00
didn't care about this five minutes ago and
37:02
we've already talked about it i would say
37:04
about thirty minutes longer than
37:07
average i said i would not bore them
37:09
repaired people again board the audience
37:11
with this
37:13
information about information
37:16
there are a number of things years
37:18
that
37:19
i think are worth discussing a mean
37:21
would have information he's gonna join us
37:23
a little bit and for those of you prefer
37:25
stuff that's reported and informed
37:28
you should know that eats and strauss on sub
37:30
stack of used to cover the warriors exceptionally
37:32
written a warriors bucks and covers
37:35
some of this sports media stuff that some
37:37
of you do like the is written
37:39
about this stuff extensive
37:41
lakes of window ours is not saying it's
37:44
you should know that ethan strauss has been
37:46
reporting it and his information is
37:48
vetted and informed it
37:50
is not contaminated like some of your other sports
37:53
blogs say offer media criticism
37:55
that i think we can all agree on now allows
37:58
no no not have loads of something employee
38:00
completely different have you guys notice that
38:02
most sports blogs now basically
38:04
exist to try and get google traffic though
38:07
there a lot of web sites whose entire business
38:09
model is how to watch the players
38:12
championship how to watch
38:14
tiger woods at the players championship
38:16
how to watch max homer at the players
38:18
since those that are selling her father and
38:20
i have this is of i subscribed to rss
38:23
feeds to get my news and usa today's
38:25
for the when i see to not will
38:27
post how to watch the travelers
38:30
championships forty different ways
38:32
said it's how to watch thirty nine different
38:34
golfers play in the tablets a bit of
38:36
also among to you spawn
38:39
spawn me to the sports blog that sports illustrated
38:41
created as was basically pure aggregation
38:43
all they do is are
38:46
you a spinner and lamar lamar jackson
38:48
makes his thoughts on contract negotiations
38:50
very clear i swear to you there's
38:52
like fifteen headlines a day that are about
38:55
it is the final words are very
38:57
clear so when you go to google and you see
39:00
lamar jackson makes it's not very clear clicking
39:02
on that headline also i'm onto you
39:04
sports blogs and do nothing but post about
39:06
page spirit neck i'm on to you
39:09
i'm on you're trying to get
39:11
thirsty dudes are into paid for an egg
39:13
it's gross i'm telling you it's gross
39:16
every single sports bar they're just trying to draft
39:18
off of the popularity of always the
39:21
woman who does a very good job on social media
39:23
spin my word of our and are have you
39:26
arrived or hold on you're describing her as a woman
39:28
who does very good job on march madness awesome
39:30
easy as a beautiful she's a beautiful
39:32
woman who a is indisputably
39:34
dead a full answer points bet as a good
39:36
does it with as a sports betting service and
39:39
she's got enormous following and which
39:41
he was at lake tahoe shed tahoe big following their
39:44
seabed there's is like
39:45
the only sports my biggest aggregate her tweets
39:48
every single one of them
39:50
what does it get it does well on google it's gross
39:53
or the aggregating tweets with her the sweets
39:56
aggregating her photo wait she
39:58
it's just like paid for your neck has leave
40:00
golf and there's five headlines about
40:02
it every single thing that he tweets
40:04
lower in his area to buy sports blogs
40:07
telling you i'm onto them outcomes like a good idea
40:09
yeah yeah a little late to
40:11
a but it shouldn't have this aggregation
40:13
and it's great a lazy act against in
40:15
the things should be sponsored by still got
40:17
it can , instead just have
40:20
them sponsored can we all her money
40:22
and we want to do these cheap dirty
40:24
tricks to make business brought to you on behalf
40:26
of still got got god
40:29
makes his thoughts on was very
40:31
clear on aggregation
40:33
site where we do nothing but aggregate ourselves
40:36
go ahead aggregate ourselves you get to work right
40:38
that all right now get to work on through
40:40
god's makes a the his thoughts
40:42
on whoa dj very clear how
40:44
how to listen to our one know
40:47
how to listen to our to we post this
40:49
every single day
40:51
they make good money on tons i'm probably
40:53
far as it is confusing with golf had a watch
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sean from easy and walked into a mcdonalds
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