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This is the Dan Labatore Show with

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Coming to you live on YouTube

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from the beautiful Elser Hotel

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on a Greg Cody. Tuesday,

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David Samson has fled the premises

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chased off by your screams. He

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is feeling wounded

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and hurt. We don't know when he will be back

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or if he will be back.

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What are you laughing about, Billy? Because you did

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that. It's not the fans that chased

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him away. It's on you, buddy. You kicked him

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out a couple times and you're reading him every mean thing

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someone said about him. Not every

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mean thing. Not even a quarter of the mean things. And I didn't do that.

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He did that. I was

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in Costa Rica.

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That's all

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we need from you, Tony, is limited

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fake David Samson. I

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guess he is enraged at us. The

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audience wanted order set forth, though.

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I don't know what happened yesterday, but evidently

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you guys let him take over the local hour. I

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don't think it was a yesterday thing. I think it was a body of work thing.

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Yesterday, because South

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Florida's had such a great

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month, because it's crazy. Miami

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men's basketball final four, women's

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basketball elite eight, FAU

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final four, Miami

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Heat, a giant

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upset in basketball and then

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a hockey upset, unlike any

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in the history of the franchise and very

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few, if any, in the history of that

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historic sport. Just an

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amazing week. And we come in on Monday. Everyone

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see, expectations are tough, man. When people

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have expectations, they often get disappointed.

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They had the expectations that our

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show would be unhinged and then we got Knicks

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fans, Stugats and David Samson

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in the seats. And that helped nobody.

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And if that's the nature of the conflict, I'm

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willing to defend the conflict.

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We counter with a Homer Greg Cody. This

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is a market correction. Greg, have at

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it. That's right. Greg Cody of the Miami Herald

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is in. He has been a Homer in this market

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for local sports longer than anybody

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has been. He is

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somebody who pom-pom celebrates

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all of South Florida's victories. And

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we right now have outside

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of championship runs, and there have been a few,

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we right now are in the middle

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of the greatest weak non-championship

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division this city has ever seen in sports.

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And you mentioned UM basketball, and

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that's pushed to the back now.

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What the Heat and the Panthers

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did in the first round, eight seeds beating

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number one seeds, it was epic. And

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what the Panthers have done, beating quote

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unquote the greatest hockey team

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ever, the greatest regular season ever in

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Boston, that was beyond epic. That

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was historic. The Panthers win. Beyond

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epic. Beyond epic. The

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Florida Panthers won three

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game sevens in a row. Is there

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anything beyond epic, though? Yes. He's

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cooking right now. Let him cook. OK, but historic.

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Is historic indeed beyond epic?

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If we were trying to describe

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what Steph Curry did in game seven,

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put it on the poll, Drew

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Duet, Leb

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because

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you're because if it's beyond epic, it is then

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historic. Is it not? But if it's historic,

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it might just be epic and not beyond that.

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Correct, correct. And what the Panthers have done is

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historically beyond epic. You

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have to put them both together. There is no

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topping that. We're never going to see

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another situation where a team

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down three to one

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wins three consecutive game

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sevens, two of them on the road, against

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a team. as great as

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the Bruins. We're never gonna see that again.

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Here's why it was, for me, something

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that was beyond epic.

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Thank you. It's not merely that

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I got to enjoy the Panthers winning

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a game seven and an upset. It's

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as an added bonus of the greatest

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taste you've ever had in your mouth, the

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sprinkles of, oh, and look, Boston

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is heartbroken.

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They went into the season not expecting that

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much from that team. Then the expectations

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got ratcheted to a crazy

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place, and then hockey happened.

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Hockey just happened to

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them, and Boston,

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which loses and remembers the losses because

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the way they care about sports there is

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really unhinged. Now Boston

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weeps into its chowda, just

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cries, and

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so much silence, and there was so much arrogance

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because the team had only lost 12 times

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all season, and now

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the greatest run, this

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is the greatest hockey run we've had

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in this town in a quarter century. That's

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the second best moment in franchise history. In

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franchise, I was born in the early 90s. They went through Lemieux

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and Yager. They went through the Bruins,

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Flyers and Penguins on

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their run. I remember that game seven

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against the Penguins at home

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to get to the Stanley Cup finals. I

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think the fact that they then got swept

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in the finals maybe takes a little bit

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away from it, but.

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You remember it wrong, I think. It was on the road. They

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went on the road. Did I say home? Yeah, you said home.

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I meant home for Pittsburgh. Just kidding, but I

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could have. Either way, Tom Barra also got

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it handed to him. Yes. I could have

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meant that. I could have meant, I said home. One of the teams

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was home. So

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technically I was right

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on the mark. Hey, I'm old.

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I don't remember what happened 25 years ago, 27 years ago,

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whatever it was. But

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at any rate, I could

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make an argument that what the Panthers

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just did in game seven in

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Boston was the greatest victory ever.

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It was definitely the most emotional

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victory for me in franchise

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history. It was also the way that that game and

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that series kind of turned. That one game

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kind of encapsulating the entire series

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of just Florida having to battle back

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against this tremendous team.

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But one of the great things about being successful in

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South Florida and beating that market is

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locally listening to 98.5 the

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sports hub has become a bit of a meme

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and people are really starting to revel in

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Boston's misery. So much

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so. No one more than you. Okay. I

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will say it again. I said it earlier in the show and I will say it again.

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I was blissfully delighted at seeing

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the radiant smile on my wife's

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face as she was in a Costa Rican river.

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She likes the outdoors. She likes Earth and

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she looked blissfully happy. And it was the second

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person I looked at this weekend. Second

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place she finished with the silver medal on happiness.

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I saw on their faces because in

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the glow

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of midnight in front of what seemed

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like a sad television

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and a tube that was just radiating

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on his face. Mike Ryan smirking

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maniacally was just listening

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to Boston sports radio and

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enjoying there is something it

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is better this way. It's one

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thing to get to enjoy your team winning. But

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when you get the added bonus of knowing

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how miserable the other fan base is,

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how heartbroken the other fan base is, I

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don't think many people do what Mike Ryan

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does,

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which is just tune into

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find where the misery is

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after midnight and just listen to Boston

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accents calling their their

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hosts and weeping, weeping

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because they're so heartbroken. But I had skin

7:53

in the game. It was my Florida Panthers that beat

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their Boston Bruins. I really enjoyed

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it. Ryan Cortez, though.

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He took it to the next level because I

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can't believe what's happening around here where you're now the bronze

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Medalist for heat Homer is and might

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be falling out if Greg Cody you got

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Ryan Cortez Perique Cortez

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is number one on the list Jeremy Tashay

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is trying to rival the throne Greg

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Cody might be third You know how obnoxious

8:18

our show must be when you're the fourth most

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obnoxious Heat fan this Homer

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this this type of Homer ism is a

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young man's game, which is why you mentioned Jeremy

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Ryan and Greg I can't I'll

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admit I lay down my shield I

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cannot compete with these guys But I

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was listening and enjoying the Panthers

8:37

victory Ryan Cortez was

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listening and enjoying the Celtics loss to the

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Philadelphia 76ers when he's a heat

8:43

guy and he called the sports

8:46

hub last night and unlike

8:48

the first time when the Panthers

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beat the The the Boston Bruins

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and the sports hub was not helpful in getting us audio

8:55

Ryan was kind enough to roll on his own

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audio

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That

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first time long time guys I just can't believe

9:08

the Celtics lost game one like that

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with no and beat

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Joe Missoula is a bum and

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the other thing about the Celtics is It's

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not mature It's

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not

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clever how is that

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the first call? First

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The crazy thing about it is that Ryan is a

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seemingly normal guy right when you see him

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and you talk to him He's a normal guy and then he turns

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into this like not normal person afterwards

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and then he does things like that It's like who thought of

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calling a sports radio show sitting on

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hold for 25 minutes. Hey, we got a break here

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Hold on, you know, whatever 10 minutes you listen

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to car commercials and then he does this for just

9:56

five seconds of it You sound like Mike Francesa

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me

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Yeah, like you're confused at the idea of someone

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wasting their time prank calling like

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a sports talk radio show Yeah, because

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there's better things to do. I don't know

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not much not much better than that.

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That was brilliant. Thank you, Ryan He's

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a single he's a single man and

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he's enjoying himself and he's having a

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Monday night Let him have a Monday night. You

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have diluted the word brilliant

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By calling what he did there Did

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you see how he said he was from Boston Just

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let's mind-blowing let's hear it again You want to

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dissect this brilliant and he also

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hit the music at the right time Let he's got

10:42

some of the cadences down to trick them

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at the beginning. I wonder how often he practiced

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this in the mirror

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Alright, you heard from us. Let's hear from

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you

10:52

That

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first time long time guys, I just can't believe

10:57

the Celtics lost game one like that

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with no and beat

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Joel Missoula is a bum and

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the other thing about the Celtics is I'm

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on fire Like 30

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feet away He

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didn't even try to fake a Boston accent which

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I appreciate Um, I don't know if you guys

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have seen what it is that Draymond

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Green has said on his most recent Podcast

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on the volume. He has said a number

11:28

of different things recently He says

11:30

he has lost respect for Sabonis

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for not shaking his hand after the

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series. You stepped on his chest

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like and

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You're the guy who also wouldn't shake

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Tristan Thompson's hand a lot of people are

11:43

pointing out after you won the championship

11:45

as you lose a lot of respect for Sabonis

11:48

But he's also saying I think you guys have noticed

11:50

this right?

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Draymond Green, I suppose LeBron deserves

11:54

it right there He's entering locker rooms these days where

11:56

his teammates are making goat sounds on

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his behalf But Draymond Green has

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been more effusive in his praise

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of Lebron than I think anyone.

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Anyone speaking into microphones and

12:07

what he said most recently is that after

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he plays against Lebron,

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he doesn't shower because

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when you play that kind of greatness, you want

12:18

the smell still on you. That's

12:20

a little strange. I mean, does

12:23

he mean that literally? Yes, I mean. He

12:25

literally does not shower after he plays Lebron. He's

12:27

saying he never showers after playing

12:29

Lebron James because he wants,

12:32

when you play against that beyond epic

12:34

historic greatness, you want the scent

12:36

still on you. Oh, wow.

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Let's go to uh 80 his

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name is bow Wow,

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I think belly typed an eight instead of

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a b fine to clear his day by two

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dollars stugats Hitzcrest

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corner on the line cc. This

14:18

is the done limatar show with the

14:20

stugats

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Stu got sprung on everybody

14:28

yesterday that he

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wouldn't be around for a week.

14:34

He says that he got in

14:37

chris wittingham's schedule book

14:40

When he was off nobody here believes

14:42

him Let's try and get a hold of wittingham

14:45

and see if he can tell us that this is indeed

14:47

a lie By billy who produces god bless football.

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How difficult is this billy in terms

14:52

of your schedule? Stupidity is

14:54

he planning on doing things from wherever

14:56

he is? Do you know? I don't know. Okay, great We

14:58

recorded something yesterday, but it wasn't

15:01

long enough for a full episode

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I do hear from him like eight times a day

15:05

though So like I he will call me

15:07

and if I don't get it He'll call me right back

15:09

and if I don't get that then he'll text me Hey,

15:11

call me when you get a second and then he'll leave me a voicemail

15:14

says hey call me back None of it ever

15:16

actually gives me any information So I eventually call

15:18

him back and then we'll talk for like 40 minutes and

15:20

then at the end of it It'll be like so are we recording anything

15:22

today or or not? So hopefully today

15:24

i'll have an answer as to whether or not because last I heard

15:27

he was going to do something with chris Cody and goldie. I don't

15:29

know if chris. Cody was aware of that or not. I was supposed to

15:31

be yesterday afternoon Yeah Do

15:33

you and maybe you can help me here as

15:35

any of you can help me here as astute

15:37

observers of this? crazed

15:40

creature Do you guys understand

15:44

why he does the thing? The

15:46

night before of hey tba

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on tomorrow. I might be there when you know,

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he's made the decision The decision has

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been made. It's not in any way true.

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Is it because he wants to control it? Is

15:58

he just wants does he want to have?

15:59

have that control over us,

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whether, I mean, we can do the show, whether he's here or

16:05

not. I'm not sure what it is. For me,

16:07

I know, I

16:08

know once he throws out there that he might

16:10

not be here today, he's

16:12

not going to be here today, but I still want

16:15

to see if he's going to be a professional

16:17

about it and respond to me when

16:19

I say, Hey, are you coming in tomorrow? And

16:23

he does the unprofessional thing of not letting me know until

16:25

six 45 when he's already in New York. The

16:28

dedication to unprofessionalism is

16:30

breathtaking. Like I just don't understand why.

16:32

He kind of gets off on it. It's

16:34

needless. Like we're covered. We

16:37

had David Sampson here until Dan jettisoned

16:39

him away. Who knows what the status

16:41

of that is. I did that for the audience and you guys

16:44

jettisoned him away. Not

16:46

to do it. He gave him a show misconduct.

16:48

Yeah. No, you guys allowed him to talk

16:51

too much. That's not what happened. No, he

16:53

was

16:53

a co-host and

16:56

he was hired. This is part of the deal with

16:58

hiring him and I'm grateful for it.

17:00

And it's not like we didn't celebrate the local

17:03

hour. Those comments aren't because David Sampson talked

17:05

more than usual. He was

17:07

just because he merely existed and

17:10

people don't like him.

17:11

I love David Sampson, but how can he, of

17:13

all people, be so thin skinned?

17:15

He spent his career as the president of

17:17

the Miami Marlins, inviting

17:20

the slings and arrows from angry

17:22

fans. How can he be so

17:24

thin skinned at criticism from

17:27

listeners? Well, it's, it's not like it's new

17:29

criticism. It's, it's not being

17:31

fair to him. And a lot

17:34

of people are making him pay for the sins of

17:36

several years ago. He's getting tired of it.

17:38

I can understand it. But when you call him a

17:40

rat fink, and I can't get over that phrase,

17:43

what you mean is yesterday, you don't

17:45

mean trading

17:45

Stanton 10 years

17:47

ago. You mean what has happened most

17:49

recently, he shit on the

17:52

local teams at a time when they

17:54

are both at the apex of their seasons.

17:57

Okay. I'm just saying. I

17:59

mean.

17:59

And I love David Sampson, but yesterday

18:02

was not the day to come in here and say

18:04

you know what heat fans suck When

18:07

Nick fans have spent the last 40 years in

18:09

moaning ever since Willis Reed limped off the court

18:12

What are you smirking about Billy? I'm just living

18:14

man. I'm just here taking it all in

18:17

okay excellent I

18:19

will say in Stu gots his defense there are days

18:21

that he tells me I'm not going tomorrow on

18:24

Thursdays and then I see him

18:26

in the studio And I so it works

18:29

both ways where he'll he'll say that I'm not going

18:31

in tomorrow I'm like okay like so we're gonna record

18:34

this he's like yeah Yeah, and then I'll get a call

18:36

and he's like I'm at the studio today I'm like okay

18:38

that that part is weird because I've noticed that because

18:40

I think we kind of agreed Hey, you got a lot going

18:42

on you're working very hard Especially during the football

18:44

season with God bless football

18:47

Take Thursdays to dedicate yourself to

18:49

God bless football and then sometimes

18:51

he'll show up here on Thursday Not

18:53

understanding that that is also kind of an inconvenience

18:56

and also Unprofessional to not give me the heads up

18:58

that he's well He says he always gets asked

19:00

last minute to do it by witty

19:02

not to throw it in the bus But he's not here. So it

19:04

doesn't matter. It's not true Also, I reached

19:06

out to witty but he is presently really enjoying

19:09

life away from this show. He's on a yacht

19:11

It is a yacht It

19:14

is a strangely tortured experience

19:16

I think to be careening around

19:19

in Stu gots his head and I really

19:21

do think I want to analyze This with you guys

19:23

for a second. I think he simply

19:26

wants to have the control

19:28

of it and I think

19:30

he notices as all

19:32

of you have there are an awful lot of people here

19:35

and we're all replaceable I purposely

19:37

put David Sampson in the seat. So you'll miss

19:39

me. It's a strategic device.

19:42

You usually hate me I found

19:44

the one creature anywhere in sports

19:46

that I can put in this seat That

19:48

you will hate more so that when I come back

19:50

I do so to Heroic return

19:53

and welcome. How do you play Danno? Thank

19:55

you I but I also believe because

19:57

it's not just that because he's also somebody

20:01

who is just simply conflicted.

20:03

So you tell him to take Thursday off

20:06

and he wants to decide

20:08

when he's off. The part that's strange

20:10

to me is not telling anybody

20:12

when he knows he's made his flights,

20:14

like he's not making his flights this

20:17

morning to me. He does sometimes do that

20:19

though. He does sometimes just make his flights

20:21

on a, on a whim, which is, I don't

20:24

know how anyone can operate this way, but

20:26

we've, we've emboldened him.

20:28

We he's,

20:30

he has a pretty good here. He can just

20:32

do this and everyone just chalks it up to the cost

20:35

of doing business with Stu gots, but you

20:37

know, there was like a

20:40

kind of like a feeling out process when witty was

20:42

EP and you could see where he was trying to

20:44

find where the lines were. No, it was fascinating

20:46

to see him try and create

20:48

new boundaries and, and push

20:51

witty. This is why I want to talk to witty. Will he join

20:53

us from this yacht at some point during this show? Connection

20:56

spotty. But when someone says that

20:58

they're on a yacht and

21:00

they're

21:00

not on your show and you're presently

21:03

having, you know,

21:04

a lesson stellar day, you just become

21:06

filled with envy and you realize you go enjoy

21:08

that yacht. You're in far better place.

21:11

He has. I don't think that he's ever had

21:13

a, cause you can imagine how organized

21:16

Chris Whittingham is that he's ever had

21:18

a larger frustration than what it

21:20

is to just generally deal with Stu

21:22

gots is tapestry of lives. We've never talked

21:24

about on the air where I thought

21:26

where, where if I could pinpoint

21:28

a specific time where I thought

21:31

witty was going to leave us and

21:33

it was the day it was announced that he

21:35

was going to Apple and Stu

21:37

gots was being maximum Stu gots that

21:39

day. And we had all sorts of problems with our recording.

21:42

There was all sorts of bad communication between here

21:44

and Arizona. And I looked at Chris Whittingham

21:46

and I could see wash across his face, the

21:49

dichotomy of

21:50

crowning achievement, dream job, universal

21:53

praise on Twitter. And having

21:55

to deal with Stu gots. And I once again

21:57

see that dichotomy between him. living

22:00

his best life right now, enjoying life on a boat,

22:03

and the show that he used to work on, asking

22:05

him to relive Stu Gatz's lies.

22:08

I don't wanna put him through that.

22:09

Let's not have what he on today. You

22:11

say that about Chris Whittingham. I want

22:14

you to imagine John Skipper, who

22:16

was the most powerful man in sports,

22:20

dealing with all things

22:22

Stu Gatz. And I can't imagine

22:24

how good Stu Gatz's seats are

22:27

tonight at Madison Square Garden because he

22:29

went to the top of the food chain to

22:31

bum tickets and take the day

22:33

off from work. See, if you wanna

22:35

talk about where the failings are, I start

22:37

right at the top. We embolden this man by

22:39

giving him your sweet ticket skip.

22:43

You are criticizing the CEO of the company

22:45

publicly? Left me in a foxhole

22:48

over here taking grenades with

22:50

Dan taking his frustrations out on our newest

22:53

signing, David Sampson. This could

22:55

have been avoided by not giving Stu

22:57

Gatz the tickets. Let's be clear on this. My

22:59

frustrations with Sampson have nothing

23:01

to do with Stu Gatz and everything to do

23:04

with him defecating on what I've spent 18

23:06

years building in this market.

23:08

That's all it is. He

23:11

didn't do anything. He was just David Sampson yesterday.

23:14

Like that's the thing. He didn't come in

23:16

like saying, I'm gonna be like an asshole.

23:18

He's just David, and I'm not saying

23:20

he's an asshole. I'm just saying he just came

23:23

in and was David Sampson. Like that's all

23:25

he did yesterday. Yeah, it wasn't super

23:28

egregious. And trust me, I'll be the first person

23:30

to raise my hand when I feel like he's being out of line.

23:32

But he was just merely existing yesterday.

23:35

Speaking of merely existing,

23:37

Billy, can you tell us

23:40

what it is that's happening with Antonio

23:42

Brown? I

23:44

have no idea what's going on with him. That is a loaded

23:46

question. Yeah, what am I supposed to tell him?

23:48

Is there? How much time you got? Wow.

23:51

So did you see what he did? I don't know

23:54

if the internet was working. If

23:56

you were driving or there was a river, what was going on

23:58

at this moment in the NFL?

25:59

a scoundrel. No, it's about 11 p.m.

26:02

It's it's the worst. 11 p.m.

26:04

is when he did that. That's that's mean. It

26:06

was after the after the Celtics

26:09

Sixers game 10, 11 p.m. And

26:13

whoever's call screening at that point at a sports

26:15

radio station like that's not a great

26:17

job. He sent into the chat that he waited

26:20

on hold for 35 minutes to do

26:22

that at 11 o'clock at night. I love him. They

26:25

hadn't lost the game yet. Oh, you're

26:28

starting to come

26:29

around. Brady

26:33

brilliant. No, I'm

26:36

closer to pathetic brilliant.

26:39

I'm very single. We established that and

26:42

we'll remain those. But

26:45

it's not nice on the pole at Levitard

26:47

show will parakeet Cortez remain

26:50

single. Don Libba. You

26:53

keep mentioning Lou Harris and Williams

26:56

and Montrell Harris. You keep mention. Harold.

26:59

Harold, excuse me. It's

26:59

two guys. Nick, thank you

27:02

so much for being on with us. Really enjoy your work. Thanks

27:05

for having me. Have a great day. Yeah, yeah.

27:08

This is the done. Let our show with

27:10

this

27:10

to God's.

27:14

Many people are thrilled,

27:16

thrilled at the return of

27:20

the hard network out. Mike Ryan

27:22

thinks I am using it too much, but we

27:24

have segments now that we are practicing as

27:26

part of our new network schedule.

27:29

We're trying to stick to 12 and a half

27:31

minutes per segment. We've told

27:33

Cody he was locked in the first two segments

27:37

on the clock, but he has since said

27:39

he is just now said because every segment keeps

27:41

ending with him despondent. He has said you

27:43

will not get

27:44

me again.

27:45

That is the last time. Nothing that that is the last

27:47

time you guys will get me today. Mike

27:49

Ryan thinks we should put it at the end of the

27:51

hour, not at the end of every single

27:54

segment. He thinks we're getting carried away. I think we're

27:56

making up for lost time. It is one of

27:58

the things.

27:59

of the few things I miss about ESPN's

28:02

clock and management in general

28:05

was the fact that we could do that to Greg Cody.

28:07

I am thrilled to have it back. I need to find

28:09

a way to get the club back. Those are

28:12

like the only two things that I miss

28:14

from our time at ESPN. And the free Disney passes.

28:16

Yeah, you could get those back. Those are super

28:18

important. That was great. I

28:20

had those when I didn't have a kid. Now what am I supposed

28:22

to do? Yeah. You gotta pay for it now.

28:25

Last night at

28:27

the Met Gala, Dwayne Wade,

28:30

I admired Dwayne Wade for a million different

28:32

reasons. It's a long, long

28:35

list of reasons. Going back to his first

28:37

days in Miami when the

28:39

custodians at the arena would shake

28:41

his hand and beg him not to change, as it

28:43

was clear he was becoming a superstar. And

28:46

he didn't do much in the way of changing

28:48

on how it is that he treated people,

28:51

how he publicly talks about

28:54

his wife, and following

28:55

her and following love because

28:58

he finds her wiser and stronger

29:00

than he is. And

29:03

as a face

29:04

and body for masculinity,

29:07

the way that he talks

29:10

about love, love of family, love of

29:12

his wife, and love of his daughter. I

29:15

don't know if many of you can imagine

29:18

appreciating and understanding

29:21

and being in awe of your child

29:24

so much at 12 years old that when

29:26

Zaya tells you that

29:28

she is transgender in 2020,

29:31

at 12 years old, that

29:33

you would support that decision

29:36

privately, publicly, that you

29:38

would not be influenced

29:40

or infected by the masculinity

29:43

that you can find in the average

29:45

locker room or in the culture of sports,

29:48

in the pipeline of sports, that you

29:50

would be so strong as to

29:52

let your love of your

29:54

child arrive in a

29:56

place of such acceptance

29:59

and understanding.

29:59

that you support who your

30:02

child believes as a storm gathers

30:04

around your child in this

30:07

state in particular that makes it

30:09

unpleasant

30:10

and in some cases a

30:13

poison that

30:13

is lethal because this

30:16

must be a special kind of torment

30:19

to be you know I know many of

30:21

you disagree with the idea of gender

30:24

being on a spectrum and you can argue

30:26

with me about the science of chromosomes

30:29

but for a

30:32

child to have the loneliness

30:34

of not just whatever

30:37

that confusion and difficulty must be

30:39

at that age and turn

30:41

to her parents

30:43

and find nothing

30:45

but support I don't

30:47

know that there is something stronger a parent can

30:49

give a child then that

30:52

kind

30:53

of booing that kind of confidence

30:56

and what could be a difficult time even if it wasn't

30:58

in a community that has six times higher

31:01

suicide rate because this must be such

31:04

a lonely torment to not just

31:07

try to figure it out for yourself but to

31:09

have society or

31:12

large swaths of society feel

31:14

okay with condemning everything

31:17

you are and if

31:19

you're in our audience and you're saying a 12 year

31:22

old cannot make those decisions

31:25

for a parent you're entitled

31:27

to that opinion but

31:30

it is not supportive it is not

31:32

allyship and it is not what Dwayne

31:34

Wade has been doing publicly since

31:38

Zaya made the revelation to the family

31:41

and everyone else that she was

31:43

an adult and

31:45

that she was going to choose this

31:48

path so here are the words

31:50

of Dwayne Wade at the

31:52

Met Gala and he has now said this

31:54

is several days after he made news Dan

31:57

this bummed me out that he moved out of

31:59

Florida

31:59

because it doesn't feel safe. And I, how

32:02

could it? How could Florida, man,

32:05

I don't know.

32:06

I

32:09

talk a lot here

32:11

about

32:12

not getting numb to what

32:14

is happening with guns and gun violence.

32:16

And I'm sure most of you reacted

32:19

the same way to the news from Texas

32:22

where a guy is shooting

32:24

an automatic weapon next door. They

32:27

tell him to quiet down because there's a baby

32:29

sleeping and then the next thing you know, he's

32:31

just opening fire on a house and mothers

32:34

are killed and found dead on

32:37

their surviving children

32:39

because of what the

32:41

parental urge is to make sure

32:44

that your child's life is more important

32:47

than your own.

32:48

We've got a gun problem in America.

32:51

We've got a permitless

32:53

carry problem

32:56

in Florida. And on top

32:58

of that, now government legislation

33:00

that makes it so that Dwayne Wade probably

33:03

feels unsafe

33:05

for his child in Florida.

33:07

And so here's Dwayne Wade in his own words,

33:10

explaining to you why it is that he'd

33:12

like for Dwayne Wade. He was at

33:14

the first game with Jimmy Butler. He asked

33:16

his autograph, asked for his autograph afterward.

33:19

He is proud to be a member

33:22

of the Miami Heat, but he has moved

33:24

to California with his wife because

33:26

of how unsafe it feels specifically,

33:28

he is saying, for Zaya. So let's hear

33:30

that sound.

33:31

What's your message to Ron DeSantis?

33:34

I don't know him, but

33:36

I do know men lie, women lie, but numbers don't.

33:39

I do know that when our children

33:41

feel accepted, that 43%

33:44

of our children's that feels accepted

33:47

from their parents, from the world, it

33:49

lowers the death rate. Suicide

33:53

is high in the trans community. It's high

33:55

in youth. And so I'm

33:57

gonna step on the side of acceptance going

34:00

to even go on the other side. I'm just focused

34:02

on acceptance and so let's let's

34:04

make sure our kids have an opportunity to live this life

34:06

that we all get to live and it

34:09

starts with our gun safety laws obviously. We have

34:11

a lot of work to do there in our schools but

34:14

also to you know in

34:16

our community which is the trans community. That is

34:18

courtesy of Variety and

34:21

I I really

34:23

don't know how to explain

34:25

to you how difficult and isolated

34:28

and lonely the experience must be

34:30

to transition

34:33

as the country or

34:35

portion swaths of the country become

34:39

more and more empowered

34:42

to file their hatred or

34:45

their lack of acceptance and tolerance

34:48

under the

34:50

idea

34:52

that these people are freaks

34:56

and making science

34:58

arguments as if a

35:00

suicide rate of that sort was

35:03

meant to win swimming competitions

35:06

in Philadelphia. Make it about

35:09

whether or not the trans community should

35:11

be allowed to compete

35:14

in women's sports

35:17

and make the argument about that instead

35:20

of I would imagine a humanity

35:23

that could reach all of us. The

35:26

solution is to

35:28

kill yourself because of the pain

35:30

you're in. The solution.

35:32

I don't know

35:34

how many of you have felt that kind of despair

35:37

before where the pain was so

35:41

large the loneliness was

35:43

so large that

35:46

you solve it by

35:48

the only way you know how to end it which

35:50

is to end your life. And

35:53

it's not just the suicide rates

35:55

when you look at the trans community

35:57

particularly amongst black women.

35:59

It's the murder rate. Black trans

36:02

women are murdered at a disproportionate rate

36:04

from everybody else in our society. If

36:07

you look at the number of trans people murdered in the

36:09

US between 2017 and 2021, it

36:12

doubled. That does have to do

36:14

with the rhetoric

36:15

of politicians and specific

36:17

politicians, including here, putting

36:21

these people at risk of

36:24

those total victims, 73% were killed with

36:26

a gun. And specifically,

36:29

while only 13% of the transgender

36:31

community is estimated to be black,

36:33

black trans women account for nearly three quarters

36:35

of the known victims of trans murders.

36:38

LGBTQ community is

36:40

under siege from so many

36:42

different angles, including lawmakers. And

36:45

when Dwayne Wade stands

36:47

up and refers to the trans community

36:49

as our community, from the

36:51

most personal place possible, he

36:54

is figuratively and literally a

36:56

champion

36:57

of a people who need representation,

36:59

who need somebody to speak out on

37:02

the injustice of discriminating against

37:04

trans people. And that Dwayne Wade is doing

37:06

it, I think is beyond admirable.

37:09

I think it, his post-career

37:11

life has been stellar

37:14

because of this. Trayvon Martin,

37:16

he led the fight to bring

37:18

awareness to that. And now for his own

37:21

family, for our community, him referring

37:23

to trans community as our community, I

37:25

think is huge to a lot of people

37:27

nationwide. That's the part that's so

37:30

impressive, right, is the embracing of not

37:32

just his daughter, but the entire community

37:34

and representing them. To

37:37

put yourself in the position to put that target on your

37:39

back, right? Dwayne Wade stands for

37:41

something very specific and masculinity

37:43

in this

37:44

sort of world that we've created around

37:46

sports. And yet he's out here, you

37:48

mentioned Greg, Trayvon Martin,

37:51

you can talk about what his reaction was. He was traded

37:53

back to Miami right before the Stoneman Douglas

37:55

shooting, and then was a huge part of going

37:57

into that community and lifting them up and

37:59

and campaigning against gun violence. And now

38:02

what he's doing in this community is

38:04

nothing short of exceptional. And like, as

38:07

someone who grew up watching Dwayne Wade, he

38:09

was my hero because of who he was on

38:12

the court. And in a lot of ways, I look up to

38:14

him far more now as the human

38:16

being that he's become off the court than

38:18

anything he did on the court. I understand how

38:21

many people are confused by

38:23

all of this. You're allowed to be

38:25

confused by it. I

38:29

prefer equality for

38:31

all. Perhaps you don't. I'm not saying that

38:33

I'm better than you in preferring equality

38:35

for all, but I prefer equality

38:37

for all. But that's not even the ask here.

38:40

The ask isn't even equality. The

38:43

ask is merely tolerance. It's

38:45

merely, can you tolerate this?

38:48

And the answer is no, I'm gonna shoot you.

38:50

I'm gonna shoot you with a gun, or I'm gonna make it so

38:53

miserable that you shoot yourself

38:55

because I'm gonna make it that unpleasant

38:57

around you. Like,

38:59

that's not hate in disguise. That's hate out

39:01

in the open when the request

39:03

is, it's such a small one. It's

39:06

just, can you tolerate this?

39:08

I mean, tolerance is such a diluted,

39:10

weak word. Can you abide

39:13

it?

39:13

Can you simply, and then the argument,

39:16

no, chromosome science, no, I

39:18

gotta protect my Philadelphia swim meet. No,

39:20

no, no.

39:22

And it's like, you

39:25

can't be strong enough to

39:27

just tolerate it.