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McGill joins us. Again, they've
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done another one of these surveys of which
1:11
animals could you beat in a fight.
1:13
And not surprisingly, Ron, Americans
1:17
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1:19
more proficiently than Brits
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feel like they can beat up animals.
1:24
And the one that I saw here though
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that I I think people
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are overestimating their abilities with
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wolves and kangaroos. a
1:33
kangaroo fight to the death.
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A strong human being is losing that
1:38
fight. Correct?
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Yes. Possibly. I mean,
1:42
the Australian Army has a chance, but the bottom
1:44
line is a kick from kangaroo can obiserate
1:47
you. And 1, you know, once plus second,
1:49
it's a very powerful kick to have very
1:51
powerful claws in the end of their their hind
1:53
legs. So that's the it's
1:56
not the biting. It's not the punching. It's the
1:58
the hind legs coming at you in kicking
1:59
you. If they get you in the gut, they'll eventually reach
2:02
you, and that usually leads to death
2:04
unless you can immediately get to a hospital. Is
2:06
the kick of the kangaroo greater
2:08
than the kick of the kashowari? Does the kashowari
2:11
have the most No. No. No. Kashowari is
2:13
on top of the kangaroo. I would face a
2:15
kangaroo before I'd face a catheter. Catheter
2:17
is bigger, heavier, and faster.
2:20
A kick in the animal kingdom than
2:22
the catheter are more deadly
2:24
than the castaways? I don't
2:26
know about more deadly. I mean, certainly
2:28
more powerful. You know, zebra, a giraffe. I
2:30
see the giraffe, kick a lion, and kill a lion.
2:32
till a lion is coming after her calf, kick
2:34
the lion's breaker back and the lion's thighs.
2:37
So the the power itself of the kick
2:39
but that's an animal that, you know, is not gonna
2:41
kick you unless you thread it, whereas a category
2:44
sometimes just isn't a bad mood. It's gonna come
2:46
at you. So I'd be much more they're coming
2:48
across a casserory. That's not a good
2:50
mood in a while, and they're coming across a giraffe.
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You saw a giraffe kick a
2:54
lion and break its back Yep.
2:56
A lioness coming after it's
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it's she kicked to the side,
3:01
kicked that lioness, broke its back, lioness
3:03
doc. Does anything in the wild, like,
3:05
traumatized you because I feel like if I saw
3:08
that happen, I would be like, holy crap.
3:10
Like, this
3:11
is this is wild. Really,
3:15
it's why I called the wild. Yeah. That is
3:17
what I'm doing with this. I mean, you know, I'll tell you
3:19
what traumatize. trimatize me is
3:21
watching animals suffer in a while. You know, you
3:23
see an animal. You know, watching the
3:25
great migration, watching these Will Debies cross the river,
3:27
and everybody worries about the crocodiles getting the
3:29
Will Debies. But More often than not, the wildebeest
3:31
get the wildebeest. They're tripping over each other. They're
3:33
breaking their legs. You'll see them running out of the water
3:35
because they are drilling. But their legs are broken.
3:38
bones are coming through the skin, and they're running on
3:40
three legs. You know they're eventually gonna die.
3:42
You hope that something like a lion or leopard
3:44
gets them and kills them quickly as opposed to a
3:46
slow miserable death. but that's traumatizing to
3:49
me. You see an animal suffer these
3:51
long miserable deaths, which quite often
3:53
happens in the wild. you
3:55
know, that that's tough when when there's nothing you can
3:57
do about.
3:57
How often will you yourself? Because
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we've asked you before about nature, letting
4:02
nature take its course but how often will
4:04
you yourself put an animal out of its misery
4:06
because you don't want that for it?
4:08
I've done that only a handful of times
4:10
in my life, and it's usually with animals that have been hit
4:12
by cars. and I see them
4:14
suffering on the side of the road. And I know there's
4:16
really no hope for their recovery, and
4:19
I will I will do what I can to end the
4:21
misery as quickly as possible. Roy, what do
4:23
you have for Ron McGill
4:25
of Miami? Yeah. There is a
4:27
parasite that are going that's going around Wolf
4:29
packs that are either forcing a particular
4:31
Wolf
4:32
to become the pack leader or force
4:34
men out of the group. Is there any other
4:36
parasites that might affect other
4:39
pack animals like that? You know,
4:40
where I wish I was well versed in
4:42
in parasitology. I am unfortunately not.
4:44
I mean, there's so many parasites. There's
4:46
so many things that can debilitate
4:49
animals. I don't know about a parasite that
4:51
would enable an animal to become
4:53
the alpha animal in the pack because that
4:55
would be an advantage you would think unless that
4:57
parasite enables the animal to do that, only to
4:59
die quickly afterwards. But,
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yeah, I wish I was well versed on that. I am
5:04
not. Sorry. Going back
5:06
to lions and giraffes, because I have
5:08
seen video of several lion
5:10
trying to track down a giraffe
5:12
and jumping on a giraffe's back. How
5:14
common is it for the giraffe
5:16
to be the prey of the lion?
5:18
You know, I don't think it's terribly common.
5:20
I've only seen it three times in my life and my
5:22
over fifty trips to Africa. And
5:26
and only one of those times was the lion's success.
5:29
And the other two times, there were juvenile giraffes. There
5:31
were younger giraffes. So, I mean,
5:34
you know, it just depends. Depends where
5:36
you are. It's like, in butts, why
5:38
alliance go after elephants? And nobody ever
5:40
thought that would happen until you see, there are actually
5:42
a couple of price of elephants, of
5:44
of lions in Botswana that specialize
5:46
in killing elephants, man. Think about
5:48
that. And they they mass it. They it
5:50
down. Whereas know, never heard of a lion killing an
5:52
elephant canure Tanzania, but these
5:54
animals adapt to their environment and what's
5:56
available. And when you get hungry enough,
5:58
man, you'd be surprised what you try to do. And then
6:00
if you become successful, that's an
6:02
adaptation that you can then pass on to your, you know,
6:04
your project name. I mean,
6:05
what do you look giggling about back there?
6:08
It looks some some Billy saw on the Internet.
6:10
Hey, Ron. I have a question for you. I
6:12
have a question for you about seeing what happens
6:15
that goes on at Zoom Miami. I
6:17
have I have a number of questions. One,
6:19
are there animals that like holiday
6:22
lights more than others and other animals that
6:24
diss like holiday lights more than others. And
6:26
what Amin was laughing at is we were looking at the
6:28
schedule for zoo lights because we were planning on going
6:30
together to see the zoo lights, Amin and I And
6:32
we saw that you have theme nights, you have a Star
6:34
Wars night, you have a superhero night, and we were
6:36
wondering if there's different things or if you
6:38
guys just decided to add on,
6:40
come in cost zooms to see lights at the zoo. No.
6:43
You know, we just add on. Basically, here
6:45
we add on different
6:46
themes. So people come under pajamas.
6:48
They come dressed in Star Wars outfits. It's
6:51
just seems to be a little more sense of community for
6:53
these people that come in there. I have not done that
6:55
myself, but people seem to enjoy it.
6:57
So are there animals that like holiday
6:59
lights in their animal that dislike them? Or are they all
7:01
kinda like they they don't really react to them at
7:03
all? I
7:04
don't see a whole lot of reaction. I find that
7:06
the tigers seem to be intrigued by
7:08
I find the tigers are more active
7:10
during zoo lights than they are during the
7:12
day. So they come out a much
7:14
more active, you know, I guess those animals
7:16
in hair tend to be more nocturnal anyway, but
7:18
they seem to be fascinated and mad at all disturbed
7:20
by the lights, but they they sit out right
7:22
on the edge of the they're they're having they're looking
7:24
at the people coming by and seem to be very,
7:26
very relaxed. So, you know,
7:28
1 the zoom lights do not take over the entire
7:31
zoom. It's just kind of the front portion of the zoom.
7:33
So most of the animals are out
7:35
in their night houses kinda sleeping, but we
7:37
have a certain group of them that are out. And
7:39
we have not noticed that the lights
7:41
themselves cause any kind of stress to the unknowns.
7:44
Ron, I saw a video of a man
7:47
dragging a beach shark off the beach
7:49
and back into the water. One,
7:52
we hear about beach whales all the time. I've never heard
7:54
of a beach shark, though. So is that common?
7:56
And two, how dangerous how
7:58
how how much danger was that guy in?
7:59
by doing that, by throwing the the shot back
8:02
in the water? Oh,
8:02
it's not common, first of all.
8:05
But and there is a certain element of
8:07
danger to it. it's not
8:09
as, you know, it's not like, oh my gosh, I
8:11
would rather do that with a
8:13
shark than I would with a crocodile or alligator
8:15
because the tails of those animals are gonna back
8:18
like an arm and throw you into their mouths, whereas a
8:20
shark really won't do that as well.
8:22
But my big fear is once you pull that shark
8:24
back in the water that it can turn around and get
8:26
you. not that it necessarily would, but this is an
8:28
animal that's hurt. It's disoriented. Those are
8:30
animals that are dangerous. It doesn't have
8:32
any malice in it. Trust me. But
8:34
again, the intelligence
8:36
level would not indicate that the shark
8:38
knows what you're trying to help it. Now there may be
8:40
something to do. I've never seen anyone
8:42
get hurt doing that I've seen a a couple of these
8:44
videos where people return these sharks into the
8:46
water by pulling them by their tail and getting them back
8:48
into the water. And most of them, you know, first
8:50
opportunity to swim away. So, of
8:52
course, there is an element of danger there, but it's not one of
8:54
these things like, I'm gonna kill you right away.
8:56
No. I I would not it's not like you
8:58
release release a leopard into the wild. You
9:00
open it change door and the leopard comes around and
9:02
gets you because that can happen. It has happened quite
9:04
often.
9:05
Ron, I don't know if we've asked you this before, but I was
9:07
thinking back when you're talking about sharks and biting
9:09
people, the old, like, back man scene
9:11
where the sharp bites Batman on the leg and
9:13
then it flies up on the helicopter and it's
9:15
like way up in the air and then eventually like
9:17
there's a bomb inside or whatever and blows
9:19
it up Is it possible for a shark to to
9:21
be holding on to someone's leg
9:23
and be lifted up by a helicopter? Right?
9:25
I'm assuming the leg would just snap off.
9:28
Right? or the the shark wouldn't let
9:30
go?
9:30
No. A shark could let go.
9:33
The shark could let go, but it
9:35
certainly has a a strong enough job that
9:38
if the leg does not come
9:40
off, it can hold on and be lifted up that
9:42
way. I mean, there's some reptiles especially that
9:44
are known for that. Crockettal,
9:46
alligators will hold on. They'll be dragged anywhere
9:48
without releasing, you know.
9:50
So so it's possible. I mean, it's possible, Billy,
9:52
that a a shark could bite down. And if the lake
9:54
does come off depending. It all depends again on the
9:56
size of the shark. You know, I I
9:58
mean, a lot of animals do that, especially
10:00
reptiles. I mean, when I was a kid, this is
10:02
gonna sound horrible. Please take it the wrong way. I did
10:04
not know better. But, you know, the little lizards,
10:06
the aenolus lizards that we have here in
10:08
Florida. I used to take them and soon as you
10:10
grab them, they their mouth because they want to
10:12
defend themselves and I put them on my earlobe and they
10:14
would bite down at my ear and then I let them go
10:16
and they would just stay there. They'd be like little
10:18
earrings hanging on your earlobes. And I please
10:20
don't go out and do that now, people That was me
10:22
as I said. My brother my brother
10:24
used to do that. Yeah. And we all
10:26
did it as kids here in Florida because they're
10:28
just going on. Okay? They're just holding on,
10:30
but that eventually when they run
10:32
away. But that's the kind of animal that will bite
10:34
and hold its own weight with his bite.
10:36
Ron, the the gentleman who fell
10:38
off a cruise ship. Based on where he
10:40
fell, how long he was in the water,
10:42
how surprised are you that he did not get
10:44
eaten by a shark? I'm
10:45
not surprised that he didn't get even by a shark. I'm
10:48
surprised that he survived. But he could tread water for
10:50
twenty three hours, whatever that was, that
10:52
ocean, which did not look like it was calm
10:54
at all. I I tipped my hat to that
10:56
guy. Don't know how he fell off the ship in
10:58
the first place, but the fact that he could stay
11:00
alive, treading water for what they said
11:02
was over twenty three hours, is
11:04
pretty freaking amazing. Do you realize
11:06
how meaningless the
11:08
reward is for that man to survive
11:10
twenty three hours at sea emerge from
11:12
the water soaked and scared and have you
11:14
tip your cap to him. Yeah.
11:17
It means a lot. It means a lot.
11:19
There's lot of them wrong. And means
11:21
it works. I've got a couple
11:23
of questions based on some of the other
11:25
things you said. The strongest joy
11:27
in the animal kingdom belongs to
11:29
blank.
11:30
the I believe it's a crocodile,
11:33
saltwater crocodile. The
11:34
animals most likely to know
11:37
that you're trying to help them as
11:39
a human being when they're
11:41
in suffering. Is it all gonna be the
11:43
smarter ones? Or No. No. It's
11:45
gonna be the smarter ones I mean, otherwise,
11:47
most animals, their instinct, is
11:49
to protect themselves. You know, generally
11:51
speaking, an animal an animal is not very
11:53
intelligent, is not very social. very
11:55
social animals tend
11:56
to, I think, understand aid,
11:59
but also
11:59
their instinct is to defend themselves
12:02
because You know,
12:02
it's not like they go out and and and play
12:04
with cross species. When it's another
12:07
species, it's not because it wants to be your
12:09
friend. Now, of course, there are know, there are
12:11
exceptions to this. We've all heard the tale of
12:13
the antelope defending the
12:15
lioness that protected this antelope. Wouldn't eat
12:17
it? Wouldn't it just protected the antelope?
12:19
You know? there's always exceptions. But generally
12:21
speaking, intelligent animals,
12:23
chimps, stuff, and marine mammals. They would
12:25
probably tend to understand you're trying to help them. We've all
12:27
seen those videos with whales dolphins being
12:29
released from deadning and things like that, and
12:31
how they seem to understand that they're being
12:33
helped. Do you have a story of helping an
12:35
animal you were moved by because
12:37
you could tell the animal knew that you were
12:39
helping it? Mhmm. Not directly
12:41
like that, but there's a story, there's a Pansy here. I
12:43
think I introduced you to her when you were your dad.
12:45
Her name is Samantha. She's a chimp
12:47
that's a fifty two years old now.
12:49
She doesn't like a lot of people.
12:51
She really does But for whatever reason,
12:53
she loves me. Mhmm. She's
12:56
always very happy to see me. And she
12:58
got pretty ill, not too
13:00
long. ago, where they had to mobilize
13:02
her to give us a medication. She
13:04
was not coming out of the mobilization. They
13:06
thought that she literally was was going to
13:08
die. And they called me. They said,
13:10
Rana, she could hear your voice. Maybe it could
13:12
make a difference. And I
13:14
remember going there and seeing her down,
13:16
and and I talked to this is Sammy. Come on, Sam. Come on,
13:18
Sami. Come on. And she literally started to
13:20
go, and she got excited and
13:22
she came out of it. So I think there is
13:24
something that can be associated with
13:26
animals that care
13:28
for certain other people or
13:30
other animals, that the presence of that
13:32
person or animal can help them
13:34
recover.
13:35
Ron, I'm not suggesting dog
13:37
shows a rife with, you know, skullduggery
13:39
and Graft. But when I
13:41
watch a French bulldog win the
13:43
national dog show, It seems so
13:45
arbitrary to me. How do you judge
13:47
different breeds that have nothing in
13:49
common. Don't look alike. When you watch a
13:51
dog show, Like, does it
13:53
seem legit? When the winner
13:55
is crowned, you go, yep, that was the best
13:57
dog, or is it totally random? I just
13:59
have no
13:59
idea how to watch a dog show. Well,
14:02
it's certainly not totally random. It's
14:04
much easier to understand when you're looking at
14:07
within the same breed, you're matching dogs against
14:09
the same breed. But when you come to this best
14:11
of show thing. Right? Yeah. I'm with
14:13
you, Greg. I don't know where they come up with
14:15
that thing. And, you know,
14:17
I hate to say this. because there's
14:19
people who really work really hard with their dogs and
14:21
do amazing things. But
14:23
whenever you got all kinds of judging
14:26
and money and stuff involved, I I find
14:28
it hard to believe that there is some kind of
14:30
outward influence there that
14:32
might be guiding that that scoring.
14:34
So Thank you. Give
14:36
me the example that you have,
14:38
Ron, that that you mentioned 1, but
14:40
interspecies friendships that
14:42
you yourself have been like, I
14:44
can't believe that that's happening.
14:46
I'm I'm stunned that these
14:48
two animals are friends.
14:50
Well, in the seashells Islands off the
14:52
coast of Africa. a hippo. He
14:54
came bonded with a giant tortoise. They
14:56
literally would never separate. They were next to
14:58
each other. A tortoise that hit a reptile and
15:00
a mammal. And they were like
15:02
bonded. They would eat together. They would walk around
15:04
together. That was one of those, you know,
15:06
relationships that I couldn't believe. It was amazing
15:08
to me. Well, because the tortoise isn't
15:10
particularly bright either. Correct?
15:12
Absolutely. You're right. But they they
15:14
bonded to each other. It was after a star
15:16
war hurricane and I forget what
15:18
happened. They were disoriented. They found each other,
15:20
and they just locked on to each other.
15:22
Can you
15:22
look it up on the Internet? There's a whole story about those
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17:43
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17:45
we're coming back. He started
17:47
yammering about Don't you hate the phrase
17:49
controlling your own destiny? Destiny
17:51
can't be controlled. Right. Alexia
17:53
Moron. Stugotz, I fully
17:55
you were to go and would tape the ox you out of it. That's
17:57
what you are. I did
17:59
say it. I'm
17:59
saying that's a little different time. I see.
18:02
Okay. I
18:04
love you. You didn't say I
18:04
love you back. You mad at
18:06
me. That is Put it
18:08
on the monkey air mode. Just do god's throw it.
18:10
I love you. He's only to get it. I love
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Greg Cody, are you ready to
18:39
do back in my day. I promised
18:41
it earlier. How are you feeling about
18:43
this back in my day? I feel unusually
18:45
good about it and here's why. It's
18:48
bullet proof. I'm bulletproof today with this. And here's why
18:51
a
18:51
prominent member of this show, arguably
18:54
the
18:54
most prominent member of this show
18:56
and his wife. personally suggested
18:59
this back in my day idea. I'm gonna say
19:01
that right now. So if it sounds
19:03
familiar, if it sounds like may maybe I've done
19:05
it before, nope. not
19:07
on me. I'm just following directions.
19:09
You're taking a request. You're taking
19:11
a request. Okay. This is very exciting.
19:13
I'd see where we end up with
19:16
today's back in my day. It's been a while since we
19:18
had 1. Look at Amin. Amin is thrilled
19:20
that this back in my day is making an
19:22
appearance. Yeah. I really wanna hear what Chris
19:25
suggested to him. Let's
19:27
do it. And
19:30
now it is time to take a trip to
19:32
memory lane. Here's
19:34
your guy. Great. a
19:36
cookie with back in my
19:38
day.
19:40
Wallet You
19:43
want a good laugh
19:45
on Christmas morning or wherever
19:47
presents are unwrapped. Hand a gift
19:49
to someone under and watch
19:51
them open find a wallet inside. The
19:55
hesitation, the quizzical look. What
19:57
is this mysterious, bifold,
19:59
lump of leather, the look will say.
20:01
You explain its purpose. Wait, what
20:03
they say? It holds actual
20:05
photographs and old timey
20:08
cash money I'm supposed to put a bunch of
20:10
stuff in it so it's fat and then I sit
20:12
on it. So my posture is out of
20:14
balance and I get a backache. Who invented
20:16
that? A chiropractor? What a
20:18
horrible gift, dad? Back
20:19
in my day, a wallet was the perfect
20:22
gift to give a teen or a twenty something
20:24
you were trying to gently nudge
20:26
into adulthood. and responsibility. You
20:28
carried a wallet. It's
20:30
what you did. Black,
20:32
brown, bifold, trifold, In
20:34
winter, folding money, drivers
20:36
license credit cards and, yes,
20:38
family photos. The wallet was
20:40
an especially treasured gift
20:42
because of the rarity. Greg Cody keeps a wallet
20:44
for decades. Currently, the old
20:46
trusted friend I have under my left
20:48
cheek is a black guess brand
20:50
trifold I've had since I
20:52
think the late eighties.
20:54
You don't think about a wallet. You can
20:56
go days without opening it, but you're
20:58
reassuringly know it's there just
21:01
in case As an experiment, I checked the contents of my
21:03
wallet to find a loan twenty dollar bill,
21:05
three credit cards, a debit card, a
21:07
license registration, and a triple
21:09
a card. cards from Home
21:11
Depot, Belfys, Penera Bread, and Barnes
21:13
and Noble, a Marriott rewards
21:15
card ballot through February two thousand
21:17
and fifteen. Also, a medical
21:19
insurance card, three business cards I never
21:21
hand out, a voter registration card
21:23
they never asked for anymore, and
21:25
four including my wife from around when
21:27
we got married in the early eighties, wallets
21:29
to mail, portable scrapbooks, tangible
21:32
evidence of one's life journey, a
21:34
fat wallet was a status symbol still is to
21:36
the grain dwindling army who make a
21:38
sad pilgrimage to Graceland. If
21:41
could find my Wahoo McDaniel dolphins playing card
21:43
from Royal Castle in nineteen sixty
21:45
six. Let's stick that in there too.
21:48
and then there's this in my wallet. Because every
21:50
self respecting wallet should have a
21:52
hidden gem, an artifact,
21:56
Mine, my original birth
21:59
certificate from the mid
21:59
fifties with a childish
22:02
signature that hasn't looked like mine
22:04
since I was twelve. Millennials and especially
22:06
the Gen Z crowd, they're too
22:08
good for wallets. They're letting the
22:10
tradition of our forebears wither on the
22:12
vine as the wallets simply
22:14
weeps. the slaves of the digital
22:17
area. Here are the cashless tap and
22:19
pay generation with their sleek and
22:21
slim card cases, and their
22:23
photos stored in phones are
22:25
slowly murdering the iconic
22:27
wallet. It's cherished place gone
22:29
from the dairy air to
22:31
the dumpster. bring back the
22:33
billfold. Start using cash
22:35
again. Store and credit cards you
22:37
never use. Have photos. developed at
22:39
the drugstore. Save the wallet.
22:42
I'm Greg Cody, and that's how it was
22:44
back in my day. Yeah. We'll put it on the
22:46
pole, please. Bring back
22:48
the wallet Yes or no. I mean,
22:50
you seem you seem to be questioning something that
22:52
can be proven or not proven right now.
22:54
You think that that Greg Cody
22:56
is lying. Two
22:57
lies told. No. Two lies
23:00
told. No 1? That's all.
23:03
lie
23:06
number one. Yeah. How
23:08
does your
23:08
birth certificate have your signature
23:10
on it? That's a good question.
23:12
Let me go. that's gotta
23:14
be wrong. It's gotta be inaccurate. It's gotta be
23:16
somebody else's signature on it. But I think
23:18
the second line is about to be
23:21
disproving because seems like he might have it in, though. The second the
23:23
second lie this is this is
23:25
absolutely false. No chance you were born in
23:27
the fifties. Yeah. Eighteen
23:28
fifties? Yeah. That's right.
23:31
He is now looking for his birth
23:34
certificate. The here's my voter
23:36
card. Right? Mhmm. I don't wanna
23:38
accidentally show my birth certificate on the air.
23:40
Believe me. It is right here. No.
23:42
Look. Look. Look. I think you sign it. I
23:44
mean, it's in the papyrus. Well,
23:47
I'm gonna show you my signature on it.
23:50
Oh, I'm Dan is my witness. That's
23:52
a
23:52
card. You can look at it. Dan,
23:54
as long as you don't show it in the air, you can Those certificates were
23:57
the size of an ID card back. It's
23:59
laminated. But, Greg, this is your Social
24:01
Security account number.
24:03
Right. that's not birth Isn't it? I thought it was 1 your
24:06
Social Security card and
24:08
a birth certificate with the same
24:10
thing. you could sign. No. It's a relatively
24:12
box. I mean, it's sending you a relatively
24:15
box. Oh, he is getting you out of here.
24:17
Who wants a business card? You think that
24:19
the business I got the
24:21
number of certificates on hand of that.
24:23
And the Social Security card are
24:25
the same thing. I did. I thought they were the same
24:27
thing. Go sit They are the same set in the penalty You
24:29
don't know how many? I'm not certain. I like
24:31
fat checking on Greg Cote's back in my
24:33
day. I mean, you know, just 1
24:35
do what he does. to say what he has to say.
24:37
He cares much. He went too far with
24:40
it. Really? He went too far with it.
24:42
Really? It it's it's it's gotta be
24:44
suspension of disbelief stukats. I wanna be lied
24:46
to kind of, like, gently.
24:48
Like, oh, this is good timing, old timing
24:50
story. I don't wanna do something blatant where I'm,
24:52
like, no. That's not true -- Right. -- of
24:54
your birth certificate. It's a Social
24:56
Security. It's a hot as 1 representative.
24:58
Full year paper as certificate
25:00
It's my original Social Security card, so
25:02
I misspoke. It's not a lie. It's
25:04
a misstatement. Go shit in the penalty box.
25:07
Wow. I mean, I wanted to play
25:09
for you some sound here.
25:11
Trey Young has gone
25:13
and and gotten into a back and
25:16
forth. with Zach Klein,
25:18
a reporter from Atlanta. But
25:20
before we get to that sound, can
25:22
you just your overview on
25:25
Trey Young getting contentious
25:27
about missing. He wasn't with
25:29
his teammates and he was just insisting
25:32
on private things should stay private.
25:34
as he gets into a back and forth with
25:37
Nate McMillan. Alright? So
25:38
first things first, I thought the
25:40
way he handled this exchange
25:43
was excellent. and
25:43
you'll we'll hear it in a second.
25:46
He was calm. He doesn't let his
25:48
emotions get the better of him.
25:49
He's firm, but he's polite. He
25:51
doesn't get rude. he handled it perfectly,
25:53
I thought. Now the thing
25:55
that is interesting to me
25:58
isn't, you
25:59
know,
25:59
why he wouldn't answer the question or would
26:02
answer the question interesting thing,
26:04
Dan, is what would make
26:06
Nate McMillan who's a pretty even
26:08
killed coach arrive
26:10
at the place where
26:11
ULTIMATEUM. YOU WERE EITHER COMING OFF
26:13
THE Bench OR YOU'RE NOT SHOWING
26:15
UP TO THIS GAME. TO WHAT
26:17
TRAY YOUNG SAYS ALLEGELY ACCORDING
26:20
THE REPORT. and then I'm not gonna come to the game. That's
26:22
what piqued my curiosity.
26:23
What could push Nate McMillan to
26:25
that place to deliver such an odd
26:28
ultimatum? He could've said, Either you're
26:30
coming off the bench or you're not playing. And with
26:32
Tiete
26:32
Generone would have showed up and Warren Street closed.
26:35
But according to report, he said either you're
26:37
coming off the bench or you're not
26:39
coming to the game. Your choice and
26:41
Trey Young said, I'll take
26:42
not come into the game. You
26:44
said he handled it perfect
26:46
And the question that
26:48
I I have for you is,
26:51
does he have a right to
26:53
the expectation in twenty twenty
26:56
two
26:56
private stays private when,
26:59
you know, the season starts with Tremont
27:01
Green punching
27:02
Jordan pool and them saying
27:04
private should stay private. and
27:06
I just don't think we live there anymore. If people
27:08
have a morsel of information about you
27:10
as a a celebrity, I understand wanting
27:13
that privacy But
27:15
in this case, does he deserve
27:17
the privacy that he craves?
27:20
Then 1 stories like
27:22
this happen, I have two
27:24
mines
27:24
going on. Right? My one
27:26
mine is the basketball
27:28
mine which says, yeah,
27:30
you don't say anything. even if
27:32
something came out, you don't have to answer any of
27:34
these questions. Right? You don't or you don't
27:36
have to answer any of them truthfully, but also you don't need
27:38
to answer them. you could say no. I'm not say that. This is
27:40
something that's an internal issue and we'll handle it
27:43
internally. The other line of mine
27:45
is the media mine, which is
27:47
like, give me Jews. Give me things for us to
27:49
talk about. I want a gossip. I wanna
27:52
conjecture. I wanna pontificate. Like, so
27:54
that's what's happening right
27:56
now. But does Trey Young have an
27:58
expectation of privacy? I guess nothing can
28:00
remain private because
28:02
someone's always snitching. But
28:04
the reality is, HE DOESN'T HAVE TO
28:06
ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. 1 MEAN, WE'RE
28:08
ALL
28:08
GROMING IN HERE AND SOME TIME WE DON'T ALWAYS
28:10
AGREE AND I MEAN, IT'S UNFORTUNATE
28:13
THAT PRIME a private situation and
28:15
private conversation get out to the public,
28:17
but I guess that's what
28:19
where we live in now. But,
28:21
I mean, I'm just focused on Batard
28:23
focused on helping my team win, and that's what I gotta get to refocus you
28:25
on. But what's public was that you're not at
28:27
the game. So why weren't you there? Man,
28:30
just how I use
28:32
that. So I use
28:34
it at me. Right? Yes. I mean, you're
28:36
a leader at the scene. Yeah. Yeah. I mean,
28:38
it's it's hard for people who don't know the full
28:41
situation to understand it. So, I
28:43
mean, it's like I said, it's a private matter
28:45
again, and it made public, which was
28:47
unfortunate. And if it
28:49
was state private, it probably would a bit as big of But
28:51
like I said, it's unfortunate. My
28:53
job and my goal is to win a championship, and
28:55
that's all I focus on. But you can see the
28:57
perception though, Trey. You leader of this team. And
28:59
when you're out there to support your guy When you're when
29:01
you're outside guy like you are, you don't understand in
29:03
a private matter Batard private situation.
29:05
should probably stay on the outside. And like I
29:08
said, it's unfortunate that everybody has to
29:10
understand and and know a little bit of the
29:12
details that went on inside, but,
29:14
I mean, inside here. We're all good.
29:17
And, I mean, if you got any
29:19
more questions about that, then you can you can
29:21
talk to somebody else about it. That's all I gotta say
29:23
about it. Yeah. I respect what you're saying about the
29:25
the the private of of the locker room, the private
29:27
of the practice corps, we're not here. I guess it's just a
29:29
public thing if you're not going to support your
29:31
teammates when you're healthy about not going on the
29:33
bench. So where's the disconnect there? About helped the
29:35
out of him playing. But,
29:37
I mean, John was in a booth and he was to let the
29:39
game. Yeah. You don't know the full
29:41
story again.
29:42
You want it
29:43
again? No. I don't wanna
29:45
so that's just there's more to it if you're
29:47
being healthy. I mean, a private matter needs to
29:49
stay private. So
29:51
one of one of the things that is
29:54
happening here. First of all, the
29:56
person who's asking these questions is a
29:58
local sports anchor, WSB
30:00
TV in in Atlanta. I
30:02
believe that's the ABC affiliate. who did a great
30:04
job on So this isn't this isn't a
30:06
beat writer who's here every day.
30:08
Right? This is
30:09
someone who parachuted in because
30:11
there's a new story. It's
30:12
just Trey Young didn't
30:15
show up to the game. That's why I think
30:17
it's hard to say never. I mean, there are local sports
30:19
reporters that are at practices
30:21
semi regularly?
30:22
They very
30:25
rarely. Very rarely. Okay. Very
30:27
rarely. Is is are
30:29
they there like, all the time, I mean, enough to be a familiar
30:31
face to ask questions that
30:33
are are fairly pointed. The second
30:35
thing is I'm gonna issue
30:37
a tone fine. because the
30:39
tone of the questions reminded me
30:41
of, like, the investigative report of
30:43
the local station who you
30:45
know, Am Bush is a city controller in the public parking lot.
30:47
How about why have you spent taxpayer
30:50
funds on trips of Vegas? Right.
30:52
like like and the guy says no questions, no questions he
30:55
gets in his car and drives away. That's that's how
30:57
he approach it. He didn't approach it because
30:59
there's some other beat writers ask
31:01
questions. you can hear them saying, like, look, man, I'm I'm just
31:03
trying to get to the bottom of this. Oh, isn't
31:05
this a bet? Like, when you did when you got that bass
31:07
in your voice, that that was Trey Young's
31:09
reaction, like, well, you're really really
31:11
jumping at the bit here. And
31:13
I think that impacts what kind
31:15
of answers you're gonna get in that scenario, in
31:17
that sort of setting. But then
31:20
finally, Yeah. He said two, three
31:22
times, I'm not going to
31:24
divulge what happened. If
31:26
you wanna
31:26
know, you could talk to someone else.
31:29
because it's not gonna come from me. At that point,
31:31
the reporter is
31:32
not looking to get information. The
31:35
reporter is
31:35
looking at me, Louie. Oh,
31:38
The accusation has been filed.
31:41
Oh my god. I'm
31:43
so sorry. It has been
31:45
stated that Zac Klein Because
31:48
I look at me, Louis.
31:51
Look at me, Louis. Yes.
31:53
The guy thinks he did a great
31:55
job. He did because it was an I
31:57
hate when players say you should stay on
31:59
the
31:59
outside. You're not on the inside. The
32:02
facts of the facts, you
32:04
weren't there. You're the leader of
32:06
the team, and he's asking you
32:08
why you weren't there. Yeah. We don't know
32:10
the story. So tell us.
32:12
Like, how bad could it be? Tell
32:14
his story. Why does he need to tell
32:17
you? Stuttgart
32:17
thinks he's entitled to stop asking. Stuttgart
32:19
thinks he's entitled to information as a
32:21
fan. entitled to your privacy. He's entitled
32:23
to ask that question. There's no doubt. He
32:25
asked it. He got an answer. He asked it
32:28
again. He got another answer. He asked
32:30
it at Like, at some points to God, he's
32:32
just asking. He's not he's
32:34
not asking because he's gonna get an
32:36
answer. It's not like he's gonna if this
32:38
is a law and order where he just if
32:40
McCoy just keeps yelling at the at the
32:42
with the God. Oh, something.
32:44
Okay. I did it. I killed him.
32:46
Worked. I killed him. I'm in did.
32:48
You get mad at work. Yeah. You just kept
32:50
pressing away. Found it away.
32:52
Kathy. I mean I mean, what could
32:54
be the full situation that we
32:56
don't know about? What When he says you don't
32:58
know the full situation, there's something
33:00
that exonerates him, but he wants to keep
33:02
it private. It
33:04
seems like The
33:06
full situation might have explanations that
33:08
would exonerate him or soften it, and he's
33:10
like, no, I'm not doing that. Because
33:13
and I admire this about
33:15
Crayung. because he
33:18
believes regardless of whether this gonna make me
33:20
look better or worse by
33:22
divulging this information, I
33:24
am participating in
33:26
this thing. It drives
33:28
me insane then that
33:30
all across this league. Not
33:32
all teams, but a lot of teams.
33:34
It is common practice.
33:38
Mike Ryan sneezed. Hold on. Let me get on
33:40
my phone. I gotta tell somebody. My
33:42
Ryan sneezed. He know what's in bless you. Why
33:44
is it in our league? In
33:46
the NBA? There is no shortage
33:48
of people who want to snitch on
33:50
everything that happens in that building. Why?
33:53
Why? You mean, internally? Internally.
33:56
Yeah. Dude, I worked in that in that league. I
33:58
worked for three teams. I worked for damn near
34:00
ten years. I never I was
34:02
friends with beat writers. I was
34:04
friends with with some national guys.
34:06
I never gave them anything.
34:10
Because I was foolishly under the
34:12
belief, we're doing a
34:14
thing here. And even when we
34:16
don't like each other or what's happening,
34:18
That's not for me to tell someone outside. For
34:21
what? For who? So
34:23
you feel cool? It's
34:26
insane to me. So I applaud
34:28
Trey Young for saying,
34:30
look, even if other people don't
34:32
respect what we have in this building, I
34:34
respect it. I respect it
34:36
even if my answer might exonerate
34:38
me, that would make me a
34:39
snitch, and I ain't gonna snitch. So shout
34:41
out to you, Trey Young. a
34:43
shout out, and you applauded him. Both
34:46
of those things better with tone. Put it on
34:48
the poll. Lucas. Guillermo, put
34:50
it on the toe on the
34:52
poll at Let me try show. What is the bigger honor? McGill's
34:55
hat tip or
34:58
a meme? You
35:01
survived that twenty four hours. No shark. Can you
35:03
come out? And there's Ron tip in the
35:05
cat. What? What? A means,
35:08
applause, and
35:10
shout out to Trey Young, the
35:13
the higher honor. I
35:16
can say to
35:18
I'm I'm pro journalism, but
35:20
I can say to Zach Klein. That
35:23
was very aggressive. It's
35:25
not that serious. Like,
35:28
whatever it was, he showed up at the game. He didn't show up at
35:30
the game. He's injured. He's not injured.
35:32
There's a fuffle with a coach at work. You know, people have
35:34
problems with their employers,
35:36
with their friends, problems at work.
35:39
don't think any of us would like it very much if we
35:41
walked outside. And somebody was
35:44
immediately there. On a day, I've
35:46
sniffed it to God, Stugotz
35:48
has gotten mad at my wish
35:50
to God, to God, to God. That
35:52
wouldn't sound safe. I do a press
35:54
conference, and I you've answered the question three
35:57
times. That line is still there.
35:59
With the fourth question after he's hit you on
36:01
the after the first one with, man, you're really
36:03
coming to happy. And
36:06
the Dragon seems surprised
36:08
by, hey, I'm used to like these solve
36:10
questions. I answer one time it goes
36:12
away. These follow ups. You're being very
36:14
aggressive. Is that it? Yeah. I mean,
36:16
look, and again, I think it's because
36:18
you've made it clear. I'm not going to
36:20
answer that. So at some point, you have to
36:22
understand, like, this there there's not an answer
36:24
coming. So every additional version
36:26
of this question, the same question you keep asking
36:28
is literally
36:29
just to look
36:31
at me. I'm not journalists holding people accountable. It's
36:33
not because you're actually gonna get an
36:35
answer. But then, here's the
36:37
more interesting
36:38
part. So this was on
36:41
Roger Bell's podcast on the ringer
36:43
with Logan Murdoch. They had Sam
36:45
Aymeric, who's great reporter for the
36:47
athletic. And Roger asked
36:49
him Is there any sense of where the team falls
36:51
on this? And basically, you made a
36:53
comparison to Zach Wilson and Mike White
36:55
and said, you know, I've been in
36:57
both situations where sometimes it's a
37:00
reflection on how the team feels about the coach
37:02
and sometimes the player
37:04
will act like that and the rest of the teams are like the
37:06
rest of teammates are like nah, we don't f with
37:08
that except Roger actually said the f
37:10
word. Sam Aymic, I think the answer is pretty
37:12
clear that the players, if they were picking
37:14
sides on this, To be honest with
37:16
you, they'd be on Nate's
37:18
side. So
37:18
again, I ask, what
37:20
did Trey Young do to
37:22
push push Nate
37:24
McMillan into a corner where
37:26
he issues an ultimatum, either you
37:28
come off the bench or you don't
37:30
show up. You don't know the situation. You want the answer to the full situation. Zach is trying
37:33
to get you the answer to the full situation. And
37:35
you hate -- Zach, you're trying to get the answer
37:37
to the situation. Trey Young here. They're
37:40
out here, Plumbing. You've been you've been boxed in, my friend.
37:42
Yep. You want the same thing. Stuttgart
37:46
wants. I want the
37:48
answers, but I can understand if I end up at a brick
37:50
wall, it's kinda dumb
37:52
to keep knocking on it. But also, you
37:54
were you were complaining
37:56
earlier about internal molds
37:58
that reveal things as as sources. So you don't
38:00
want you don't want internal more internal
38:02
molds revealed reveal as sources. You don't want
38:04
Trey Young to tell us How are we going find out
38:06
the answer to this question? What do you want?
38:08
Wait. Wait. Wait. And Stuttgart, if
38:10
you guys were paying attention, You
38:13
remember we all started my
38:15
whole speech with I am of
38:17
two minds. A basketball mine and I am of
38:19
two minds. did say that. Yep. Pick a
38:22
mine.
38:22
No boxes for me, Dan. Yeah. No boxes
38:24
for Greg's Rapping on. Never
38:26
mind. What about Brazil?
38:29
Anyhow, we've talked about
38:31
this. we have not talked about this. Mike Ryan
38:33
has switched allegiances from the United
38:35
States to Brazil. It if you did
38:37
have the United States. Yeah.
38:40
I'll suggest a month. Cheering
38:42
for Spain today. Yeah. While betting on Morocco. Well done.
38:45
Four mines. If
38:48
you are a
38:50
fan
38:50
of the beautiful game. Brazil
38:52
makes it so easy to be
38:54
a front runner. It's just a joy
38:57
they're just better at this than
38:59
everybody. They may lose, but it's just
39:01
they are artists. Dan, I'm
39:04
watching these games and it's
39:06
like watching cavemen, grab
39:07
clubs, and hit animals over the head, and
39:09
then take them just I don't
39:10
know. Just nod at it with their bare
39:13
hands, uncooked, barbering. And then
39:16
I watch Brazil. And it's like fine dining
39:18
with linen in China. And
39:20
here is 1 mignon
39:22
medium rare.
39:24
and you take a slice out of it and it melts
39:26
like butter. That's what the the comparison is. You people
39:29
are savages. You're watching
39:32
savage. play out there, and
39:34
then you dare wanna compare it to
39:36
the greatness of Brazil out there. You see
39:38
that goal I was trying to listen yesterday? he,
39:40
like a seal, bounced the ball in his
39:42
head, 678 hundred times --
39:45
Seal. -- then brought it down
39:47
to the ground, and then you
39:49
had this pinpoint passing between
39:52
him and Tiago Silva and ping
39:54
bong. Boom. Next thing you know, balls in the back of
39:56
the net. and you wanna compare this brute
39:58
force guys just kicking and running.
40:00
I'm I'm go. We're playing
40:02
football. Come
40:04
on, man. come on. It's like saying that the Golden State
40:06
Warriors beating the Oklahoma
40:08
City thunder by forty five and
40:10
pointing at
40:12
them in going. That's the only way to play basketball. I mean,
40:14
it's kind of ridiculous. Yes. In
40:16
theory, everyone would love to be
40:18
Brazil. That is what
40:20
makes like The only version of the Spark cannot be Brazil's otherwise would
40:22
it wouldn't exist. We'd just be watching Brazil play
40:24
against Brazil at the World Cup.
40:28
They're the only they're the only It does sound awesome
40:30
to be there. I'd like them to be a world
40:32
cup to all these wells. Yeah.
40:35
that that Brazil's that
40:38
Brazil's backups could be a
40:40
team that could also win the war. I mean, they could lose to Cameroon
40:42
in the group stage. So Okay. But yeah.
40:44
I mean, I mean, 1
40:47
I mean, Brazil Brazil's ridiculous.
40:49
They're incredible. And honestly and I 1
40:51
was talking to me about this
40:53
yesterday, We haven't seen that from
40:55
Brazil in actually some time
40:57
in a world cup. They've actually been
40:59
a bit more of that Caveman
41:02
football that you talked about in previous
41:04
world cups. They've not always turned on
41:06
the style and the flair and it was
41:08
really cool for fans of a certain vintage to see Brazil do that at a
41:10
World Cup. Mike ripped someone apart
41:12
and do so and, like, kind of, laughing in
41:14
the face of the an
41:16
easy draw. Right? For Brazil, I made South
41:18
Korea, Croatia, that's kinda easy for
41:20
them now. I think so. Yeah. It
41:23
it certainly is weakest area of the bracket right
41:25
now, and then they'll face either
41:27
Morocco, Spain, Portugal,
41:30
or What does what does Portugal
41:32
play today? Well, Switzerland.
41:33
Don't overlook. Like, there's a
41:35
potential semifinal meeting with Argentina that
41:38
should be incredible for
41:40
Brazil. Right. if they get if Argentina get through the Dutch and Brazil
41:42
handles their business. Messing watches Brazil
41:44
and gets jealous. Right? because he's like they
41:46
they they all
41:48
are like me. I want them. I want to play with them. I prefer to play with
41:50
them. I mean, Argentina have had players
41:52
like that in the past. Yes. The current iteration
41:54
of Argentina Like,
41:56
they are He's a guy with a bunch of They
41:58
play like a club team emblematic of where
41:59
Leo Messy's played before. A lot
42:02
of ball
42:04
movement, concentration on possession and not just possession
42:06
for possession sake, but
42:08
to do something creative joyful
42:12
with the ball at your feet. They they play like Barcelona
42:14
does, and that's not
42:15
something that you typically see on the international
42:17
level because you don't have
42:20
these players long enough to build this system around
42:22
them. They instinctively know
42:24
where each other is going to be.
42:27
their back line is very organized. That goal that Rich
42:29
Arleson had, I don't wanna gloss over. That was
42:31
a three man game with two center backs that
42:33
were advanced in the box. a Tiago
42:36
Silva who's how old is Tiago something
42:38
out? Thirty seven or
42:40
thirty eight? Thirty seven or thirty eight. Thirty seven. I think him and
42:42
Greg ran forever. You
42:44
were surprised you were inspired by The Artist Street. Yeah. That that
42:46
Richard the Richard listened goal was
42:48
insanity. He's got -- Your insanity. -- the two
42:50
best goals of
42:52
the tournament. Yeah. This one was better than the bicycle. Yeah. Easily.
42:54
Easily. The skill in this
42:56
and the insingential run.
42:57
The fact that his two
43:00
center backs know what
43:02
he is planning to do, and what he is
43:04
doing is dribbling it on his head
43:06
for three times. Consecutively,
43:08
before he takes a death touch with
43:10
his feet, and pass it off to
43:12
Martinez, who then passes it off to Tiago Silva. These are center backs.
43:14
This is your back defensive
43:16
line. Is normally clumsy
43:20
six foot for, you're just hoping they can complete a pass. And
43:22
for Brazil, they have the skill of
43:24
attacking midfielders another team. That
43:26
sequence was
43:28
I I believe that was one where the manager got in on the -- Yes. -- dancing
43:30
celebration too because it was it was so
43:32
beautiful. It was I I think Woody's
43:34
point is a good 1. Witty
43:37
kept hearing about how the Brazilians played the Samba football, the Joko
43:39
Bonito, the the one with
43:41
flair that just drops
43:44
everybody's
43:44
jaws, but he hadn't actually seen
43:46
it in world cups yet, and that's
43:48
the best display probably in his lifetime
43:50
of Jogo Bonita. Tyler
43:52
Adams could never. I
43:53
my brother Right. But
43:56
what what might be
43:57
Brazil's undoing is someone
43:59
muddying
43:59
it up. To
44:01
to Chris' point, there's multiple ways to go about soccer and you're
44:03
over here pounding the table forward. That's the way that
44:05
you win. They haven't won in
44:07
in twenty years. twenty years
44:09
imagine that.
44:10
And it's not even always
44:12
somebody muddying it up against
44:14
them. And when they were
44:16
the host nation, they got rubbed
44:18
seven one by a team that plays an
44:20
attacking style of football. So
44:22
it doesn't always correlate with
44:24
World Cup victories. However,
44:27
that was electrified buying. This iteration is the best
44:29
defensive side we've seen from Brazil in quite a
44:32
while. Yeah. Allison is perhaps the greatest
44:34
goalkeeper in the history of Brazil. They
44:36
allowed five
44:38
goals. Five goals in all of qualifying.
44:40
Six, if
44:41
you include the
44:42
Cameroon goal. Yeah. The end of seven. Excuse me.
44:44
But they're gonna turn them over. making
44:47
they're in a
44:47
tournament where they can be bounced nuts
44:50
surrendering a goal. My
44:51
brother's father-in-law is
44:54
a man who is very serious
44:56
and I have not seen in my lifetime
44:58
of knowing him a great deal
45:01
of joy. On the the
45:03
bicycle kick
45:04
goal. He was
45:06
dancing in the living room and
45:08
began singing a song. because
45:11
he was what do. he was made sounds
45:14
unfamiliar with. by how beautiful
45:16
that his country
45:18
had represented him in that sport in a way
45:21
that was so artistic that he
45:23
began singing in the
45:26
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