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This is the Dan Labatore Show with

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I wanted to start here with Amin, Charlotte

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and Mike Ryan as part of our Los

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Angeles adventure with just some

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Los Angeles observations. But

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Charlotte just said something to me that

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I found groundbreaking, illuminating,

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shocking. Something I did not know, something

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that Mike pointed out

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is the most surprised he's been since

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he learned that the word wheelbarrow

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is not wheel barrel.

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It is not wheel barrel. I've been pronouncing

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it most of my life.

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Not just Mike, also you Dan. Yes.

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You thought it was wheelbarrow also. That is

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correct. Wait a second. Is this

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a take it for granted situation?

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Not quite, because

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I know that one. But

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I just always I mean, wheelbarrow makes

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sense. Given what a wheelbarrow is,

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I

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just always assumed. Is it play it by

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ear or play it by year? Play

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it by ear. You know this, right?

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Yeah, she does. I'm making sure. Well,

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no, the one she brought in here is shocking. It's

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genuinely shocking. How do you think?

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And I don't know whether she went to a wedding

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or what. How do you think, I mean, when

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you put together a tuxedo and the part

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that goes in the middle over your torso,

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what do you think that is called? It's called like a

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cummer band or something like that.

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Well, that's even

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worse than what I thought. That's a band of cucumbers

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that plays a lot of music. It's

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a band with really heavy instruments. Cumbersome,

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cumbersome. No, I

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learned this weekend, Dan, I was at a wedding.

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Shout out to my brother in law and

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now sister in law.

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And yes, there were the. those things

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with the ruffles that go around the mid-tech. And I was like,

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Oh, wow. You know, it's not often you see

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a, a cummerbund in the wild or something.

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And my husband was like, I actually read, he was like,

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you will not believe this. It's

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cummerbund. I'm sorry. There's

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no B. There's no B in the

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first part of the word. There's no B.

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I think there needs to be a B. There needs to be a B

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right. But

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I, my mind was absolutely

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blown and he only knew that because of people at the tuxedo

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store told him he was saying it wrong. I think this

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is shocking to the audience. Have we,

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have we, have we verified this

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or the people at the tuxedo store? Watch this, watch this. I

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look at it. I googled it because

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I

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was like, there's no way

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that's correct. I can look it up again.

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Okay. Are you now feeling terribly self-conscious?

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Yeah. You've got it. I'm like, you've got it all wrong because wouldn't

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that be

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funny if that would

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be the most Charlotte thing of all time? I

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am shocked. It is cummerbund. With

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no B. No Bund for me. I want

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to put it on the poll at Levitar show. Have

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you pronounced it cummerbund the

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entirety of your life? I have

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another thing that I learned that I don't know

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that you guys, if you know

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what I'm talking about or if you

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can remember something like

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what happened to me when I was driving

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to the place where I'm staying here in Los Angeles,

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this is the first time that I have seen this. And

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I imagine if you have seen it somewhere

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the first time you saw it, you had the same

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reaction I did. Maybe you're familiar

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with this. I'm at a stoplight

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and what I see go across the

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crosswalk is clearly

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an unmanned

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cart robot

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of some sort that is delivering food

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by itself. And there's

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no one near it. And I'm expecting someone,

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especially because there's a large unhoused

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population here and I'm from Miami.

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I'm expecting someone to... once

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I realize what it is, take this

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delivery vehicle that is robotic

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and steal the food that's inside

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it because you cannot have these in Miami and

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expect them to get to the place they're supposed

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to get to. We do, it's happened to me six times, walking from

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the Elsa to the Metro Rail stop that

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I'm being stalked by this little pink

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robot.

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It was pink?

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It was pink here too. Yeah, it's a little pink

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robot. Good girl. And I always

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have to

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kind of stop because I always think

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it's just gonna run into me, but I

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start slowing down, it starts slowing down. It's

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a very unsettling feeling. I stayed at a

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hotel in Chicago where all of the

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stuff that like room service, I need

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towels, I forgot my toothbrush, it's

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all done by a robot. No. Like

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one of these little droid robots that rolls in and

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I don't like it. I'm

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just saying right now, it has nothing to do with saving

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people's jobs. I just don't like it. It's just...

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It has nothing to do with saving

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people's jobs. No, no, I don't want it. That

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part of me is fine with. I'm not gonna

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paint myself as some sort of altruist. I'm just saying that

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like,

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it made me a

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worse human being. When it rolled up, I wanted

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to say awful things because it's a robot. Like

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shut up, you tin can. Like I just want

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it to be mean to it. I felt like there was more responsibility

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on it to look after it because I'm like, how is this dumb

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machine not gonna get hit by a car, especially with the drivers

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that we have here in Miami? So I

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kind of felt like I was like lead blocker for

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this robot. You started recording it? Yeah. That's

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what ended up happening. But do you guys remember the first

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time that you saw it? Because my reaction

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was very specific, right? This is discovery,

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awe, and then what came soon thereafter

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was fear. Fear for the future. Fear

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that that's not gonna get where it's supposed

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to get to. Like something is gonna go wrong in

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the technology of whatever this business is. They

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must be losing a lot in the gutter

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of whatever is happening as they learn to

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do it correctly. A lot of these carts

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and the food must not be getting to the place

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they're supposed to get to. Unless,

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I think what Mike just said is actually

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something that these companies are probably

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banking on. They want, they're

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eliciting human empathy from humans

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for these, because they're like, oh, these cute little robots. Like

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we're going to take care of them. So they make them pink,

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which is also just the gender.

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We should do those. We should round them all up and

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just use them solely for

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gender reveals. If

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you open the door and it's either a pink or a blue robot

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and the babies, guess what? We

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got all the guesswork taken out. Now

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it doesn't evoke empathy for me. It's

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the opposite. It's a stupid

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robot. Like I want to kick it. I don't know why

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it just fills me with a rage that I didn't do anything.

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But I also love the idea in my mind's

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eye. Dan's driving down the street, La

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Cienega or some Pico,

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some very LA street and

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Randy Newman. I love LA. So

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I don't know. And then as he pulled

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up the light, it turns into an eerie, creepy version

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of, Oh, it was fear

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that swept over me. I don't know where

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you guys, you guys are. You guys are

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relaxed around this as if you're veterans

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of the future arriving a little earlier than you

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thought it was. It's always unsettling. The first time

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that it happened to me, I thought I was like on a hitting

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camera show because how long has it been

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around? It's been around for a good year. Yeah.

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More than that. I'm dating

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back to when we first went into the L-CIR, it happens

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like once a week. What is the company though?

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Is everyone using these to deliver food

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now? That's the name of the company I believe.

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Because I've seen this is a huge, it's a, the

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delivery. We have gotten to a place in

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general convenience where we don't

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have to go much of anywhere to shop

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for anything. But I thought one

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of the industries that was safe is people

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bringing me things to make it more convenient.

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Once you start replacing those jobs with

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robots and robots that cannot be

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efficient, there's just no way this early in

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the technology. There's no way this early

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in the technology that I'm not going to find

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all over the cities, wherever these things are. All

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this, a bunch of these in a dumpster

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somewhere or in a gutter somewhere because they haven't

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gotten filled with like. pecan pie

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or whatever is being our giant turkey

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legs because it's not getting to where it's supposed to get to.

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Somewhere that little pink robot's like, mmm.

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No, I am, it terrifies me.

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I am profoundly anti-robot and it makes

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me nervous even going on the record saying that because

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then when they take over they're coming for me first. Also

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though, I think I'm cool with that. If we're going to be ruled

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by robots, like take me out first, that's

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fine. This is a message to

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all of

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the robots. You guys keep acting like

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being taken over by robots is a bad thing. It could be

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much worse than what humans are doing. That's a good

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point. Great point. I stand corrected.

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Wait a minute. It's a real low

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bar for robots. It can be much

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worse. I understand

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that it's pretty bad right now what humans are doing,

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but yes, it can be much worse if

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robots were simply in control and then

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suddenly we didn't have anything in the way of freedom.

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It's like a month. Let's just see how they

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do.

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Honestly, not the worst

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take I've ever heard from you. You should carve

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out that lane for yourself. I welcome the

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robots. I for one welcome our

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new over. The

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thing about the whole, do you guys have

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driverless cars in

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terms of pick up? So Phoenix

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is big. It's called Waymo. Wait, wait, wait.

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Seriously? The car shows up. There's no driver

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in there. Wait, what? Yep. Have

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you gotten into one of these? I have. What? I

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have. And it's not even like an Uber. It's

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not even an Uber Charlotte. They, some of them

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are Jaguar S-Paces and then

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they've outfitted them with 8 billion cameras

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like, and what is putting one on the top

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just keeps swirling it up. So

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I'm kind of, I got in one the other day and

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I was like, am I like, you

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know, my fear is this is the only way I think I'm going to

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die is in a car accident. It's like in a driverless

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car feels like I'm tempting fate a little bit. Is

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this a cannon? You

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guys know how I'm going to die. It's the car accident.

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That's all the vision. But

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yeah, it's, it is like demolition man a little bit

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and it's weird Dan, because I've had this conversation

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with you. I went back and rewatch. Demolition

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man like a year ago and some of the sounds like oh,

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this is so silly and some are like damn They

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are spot-on with a lot of this stuff

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about what the future is gonna be like for

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instance

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Cancel culture

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that's what demolition man was about when you you

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know, I find one you do it better than I do John

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spott and you're find one credit for the verbal profanity

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active Yeah, man Like that's that's some

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crazy stuff when you think about like oh, that's kind

10:23

of the society we live in now That was weak

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the way that you made him do the impersonation

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when I heard Yeah, do

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you think Taco Bell's gonna win the fast-food wars? I

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look they've got a hell of a lead right now with those those

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Natural fries. Well, they invented the fourth meal Charlotte

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I'm with you. I wouldn't get in one of those cars I didn't

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Elon Musk have a bunch of them exploding that

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aren't the in the experimental phase I'll

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do this after the experimental phase after

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we've gotten past the exploding automobiles

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I mean my instinct is to be like yeah, I'm not

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getting in but then as Amin says

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like could it be worse than People

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driving cars at also I'm just realizing

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the first time I saw one of these robots was

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in Miami in a car and Amin

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was also in that car and it was doubly

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scary because I was like everybody as

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everybody knows I mean has a head of premonition

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that he's going to die in a car accident I'm in the

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car looking at this robot being

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like this is the end times

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And then this is it for me then the robot pulled out

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a gun Like oh You

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didn't have any Trepidation about getting into

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that into that car when you when all

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of us I think are surprised none of us have

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done this You're the only one who's on there driving

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around town, but never had one

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pull up I mean, let me put it this way.

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It was the cheapest ride share that was

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available I was like, all right. I'll give it a try and I got

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in and it's weird because It

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you don't think about the car driving itself You

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think about a ghost sitting there because

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the steering wheel swirls left and swirls right

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What's why would it do that? Why would it just change

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the wheel? You know without changing the

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steering wheel.

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Do you have any impulse to just jump up and

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grab it?

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uh... not really any close calls

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where any any anything in the way of fear

12:04

you just were totally relaxed looking at your phone

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grateful that there was no driver a strange

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person not talking about what this one pink robot

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that only a half and

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uh... one thing i'll say is that it

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was slow i was like come on get to

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the point because it's following all the traffic rules and

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economist the human touch of the breaking rules

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that the right back at i had

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a mother's situation while i was driving

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i didn't know i don't know if you've seen this on office

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is common in los angeles i'm walking past

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uh... a bunch of windows and in

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the windows look like four or five

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dentist chairs facing

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forward facing the street and

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i'm like why would they be having

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dentist chairs out in the open what do you think

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this is what do you when i'm saying it or

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putting it on the front of you what do you think this establishment

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is have no idea i thought it was a tattoo

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parlor or something cosmetics

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a song to myself all morning long. Breakfast

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flan. Dun dun dun dun dun. Two

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Amin said he had a bit of

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an incident slash celebrity

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encounter on his flight

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on the way in. I too had a celebrity

14:47

encounter but not an incident. So you start,

14:49

Amin, on your flight to Los Angeles,

14:52

what happened to you? So we're

14:55

boarding. It's one of those things where

14:57

they say, all right, now I'm boarding group one and then everybody

14:59

gets in line and I'm like, the worst. We

15:02

gotta police this. I'm like, should I start judging books

15:04

by cover? I'm like, there's no way. Your priority access.

15:07

I do a little lean over terrible.

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No, there's no way. And you did not serve

15:12

our country. Based on how you do it. You are not military.

15:15

There's just no way. I see that backpack

15:17

that you got on there. You're not group one. You're profiling

15:20

in a way that's not quite racist

15:22

but is sort of... Oh, like you're better than me.

15:24

Like you don't do it. You're wealth profiling.

15:26

Look, I...

15:28

And I just said that's awful so that

15:30

you could be the one to say it because who

15:32

doesn't a little bit do it. We all do.

15:35

I'll be the bad guy. I do a little peek at the boarding

15:37

pass. Really? Yeah. You

15:39

work on it because here's the thing. Mine is black. Yours

15:42

is blue. Blue. That's already

15:44

kind of a red flag that you're not supposed

15:46

to be in this. I haven't... I turned

15:48

to Cynthia sometimes. I'm like, look at this

15:50

goddamn blue pass. I don't

15:53

think Amin would like it though to...

15:55

If we were just profiling

15:58

in general getting on an airplane...

15:59

And he is, he is doing this to

16:02

others. I don't think Amin would like it being done

16:04

to him. Oh, he's a savvy traveler. I look

16:06

at him and I'm like, that's like a group two, group

16:08

three. That text police has seen some

16:11

airplanes before. It happened

16:13

to me and they'll say, Oh,

16:15

well, no, sorry. So we're only going

16:17

to group one. Oh, so what happened

16:21

on your flight? So, we're

16:25

boarding now. I had switched seats

16:28

like on the app and sometimes

16:30

the boarding pass doesn't refresh an update.

16:33

So you just have to kind of like reopen it. So I

16:35

scanned the boarding pass and there's a baby, you

16:37

know, wrong seat. Like, Oh, that's right. It's just seat

16:40

pass. And the lady was like, go

16:42

talk to my associate. Like, no, I can do

16:44

this. It's going to take me like two seconds. Like every

16:47

second matters. I'm like, what?

16:49

Every second matters. Yes, sir. Every

16:52

second matters. So I said, well, why?

16:54

I don't want to create an incident because every

16:56

second does matter. And then the

16:59

next guy's behind me with the property brothers. And

17:01

so I literally, both

17:04

of the property, both of the property brothers were on

17:06

my flight, right? One of them wore

17:08

a mask. One of them didn't. And that divisions

17:12

in families all over America. Right.

17:14

The one that wore a mask was probably married to Joey

17:16

Deschanel. Maybe I don't know. They're

17:19

identical. I don't know if you know. That's a very Hollywood thing.

17:21

So anyway, so by the time she

17:23

scans them, I'm done.

17:25

I found my pass and then, and

17:28

are you ready? Now, sir. I was like, I am, but I, I

17:30

just want to point out that every second does

17:32

matter. So let's cut the chitchat

17:34

of not. And I scanned it and it worked.

17:37

And she's like, thank you so much. Well, thank you, but don't thank

17:39

me too much because every second matters. And then

17:41

we walked down and of course this is what always happens when you

17:43

start boarding. There's a line in the jetway.

17:46

And so I yelled back every second matters,

17:48

but I'm still waiting here. The principal of the thing.

17:51

Number one, number two, I really enjoy walking

17:53

up to the line.

17:59

But now, not actually doing anything because in

18:01

my mind she calls security. What

18:04

happened here? He kept saying every second matter. I

18:06

was just repeating back there what he said. You know where it's a

18:08

great place to do that? An

18:10

airport where their

18:13

tempers aren't short and where they're

18:15

not fully empowered to just call security

18:17

on you. He has become really Americanized

18:20

because that is not, I remember him telling me the stories

18:22

about being terrified about speaking

18:24

freely in airports. He has told

18:27

me that that is not something he should be doing. What kind

18:29

of power of group one access? Look, I was

18:31

riding high. I was riding high because the

18:34

property brother, the one with the mask turned around and

18:37

like pulled the mask down. He was good on

18:39

it. Every second, at

18:41

least you now know every second matters. I'm like,

18:43

you know, the property brother, one of

18:45

the property brothers join in your bit. Absolutely.

18:49

The other one couldn't care less, but the one with the mask on, that's my

18:51

guy. That's the guy with the additional. I'm

18:53

declaring it now. Hold down

18:55

his mask in order to show you his smile

18:58

of solidarity on every second

19:00

matters. I hear her as you're

19:03

doing

19:03

this with a poor gate lady who's just

19:06

trying to, she's trying to flex

19:08

her power. Let's be real. She's no,

19:10

of course that's what it's two

19:12

forces colliding. But here's

19:15

the thing. I didn't

19:17

know whether to let him know I knew who he

19:19

was. And I kept thinking like, should I say

19:21

something like what about like, Oh, I saw you that celebrity

19:23

game. Like, you can hoop a little. I

19:26

wanted to make out the wrong brother. You

19:29

know what? That's a good point. I know.

19:32

I just, I just sat there and I was just like, you know what? He

19:34

probably craves human

19:36

interactions that don't center on him being a property

19:39

brother. So you know what? I just laugh at him like, yeah,

19:41

man, I'll never forget that now. And then

19:43

I just boarded. You think you've told people about your story?

19:45

Yeah. There's this one dude who's crazy. He's

19:48

just yelling at the lady every second matter. We asked,

19:50

how was your flight? Well, there was this one guy.

19:53

Actually, this is what I thought after I sat down

19:56

because, oh, by the way, when I, he was getting

19:59

into the, the, uh, And he said, Oh, are you sitting

20:01

here? Like to the scene next? I'm like, no, I'm

20:03

a couple rows back. But in my mind,

20:05

I'm like, is he telling people

20:07

after a Joe, the dude that used to be on ESPN

20:10

on the jump without here yelling at this

20:12

lady every second matter? No one's seen

20:14

him in years. Whatever

20:17

have I thought that guy was dead. Let

20:20

him go because he's an obnoxious

20:23

people in the airport.

20:24

I had, I once went

20:26

to not by choice so much. It just was one

20:28

of the things that sort of happened to you. You

20:30

find yourself at a Zooey Deschanel Christmas

20:33

concert, you

20:35

know, which was already funny to me because

20:37

it was a Zooey Deschanel Christmas

20:39

concert. I'm like, is she going to

20:41

be? Oh, is that? He

20:43

doesn't have white women. I don't have white women. He wants

20:45

to have, he's got a limited, he's got a tiny

20:48

little sound box that has about one

20:50

eighth of the sounds we usually have. White

20:53

women did not make the choice. It's a gender wealth discrepancy. I

20:55

feel like I am a white guy too. Like

20:58

that, that works. Now, Charlotte, let me ask you a question.

21:01

Zooey Deschanel Christmas concert, which you think like, and

21:03

that really annoying voice.

21:05

Yeah. And I, it was like one of those

21:07

nights where you're, you're out with people and someone's like,

21:09

I'm going to a Zooey Deschanel. And I was like, you know

21:12

what? This

21:12

is funny. Sure. I thought

21:14

you made friends. No, that sounded like Sammy Davis

21:16

more than it did anybody else. I was

21:19

like, is she going to be wearing her costume from elf?

21:22

And I had had, you know, if you like

21:24

spiked eggnog or whatever, and in

21:26

between sets, I would yell, where's

21:29

the property brother? And

21:31

like, nobody thought it was funny. It

21:33

was not the right crowd for a heckling.

21:36

So it is, you know, it's a property brother.

21:37

I'd like to apologize to the property

21:39

brother who I made a connection with. I did

21:42

not mean to do that. Her voice is magical.

21:44

And I'm happy for you guys. I

21:46

can't believe that Charlotte gets

21:49

drunk on spiked eggnog. Like

21:52

it's a guy. I

21:55

mean, I use it as a joke

21:57

drink, insert joke drink there, but

21:59

it probably. was true. Have you

22:01

ever had rumchata? Yes. Yeah.

22:04

Yes. Did it like blow your mind? Yes.

22:06

When difference between rumchata is it rum and

22:09

horchata? Yeah. It's rum.

22:11

It's horse. But it is an hors

22:19

d'oeuvre.

22:21

I end up flying and

22:23

see on my flight

22:26

and I was surprised that he was flying

22:28

commercially and wasn't flying

22:31

on a private jet. Jimmy Johnson,

22:33

who was going across the country

22:36

to do his Fox show. Now keep

22:38

in mind he's kind of the

22:40

OG of pregame

22:43

shows because when they hired him a

22:45

million years ago, I don't know if it was 30 years

22:47

ago or what, it was a long ass time ago, however

22:49

long ago it was. 20 years ago? It's

22:52

the 90s. He started

22:54

what became a very popular pregame

22:57

show and he flies. He's 80 years

22:59

old now and it doesn't

23:01

have a lot of interest in doing much of anything

23:03

that takes him out of Key West. Makes

23:06

a ton of money in the stock market and

23:08

also with just private speaking engagement.

23:11

What's the secret? That must be nice.

23:13

Yes. But I assumed, would you not be

23:16

surprised, Mike, to find Jimmy

23:18

Johnson flying commercially? That's

23:20

a long private flight. So no, I

23:22

wouldn't be too surprised. But you have it

23:24

in his Fox deal that they would fly

23:26

in private? Well, I asked him about

23:29

this because I was legitimately surprised

23:31

to see him in this line because he

23:33

did have a private jet for a while.

23:35

Like he's done much better in the stock market

23:38

than he did in football. And so

23:40

he had his own private jet. But

23:42

one of the things that I learned as being a GameStop

23:45

guy, he

23:47

just made goo-goo bucks on mean stocks.

23:50

One of the things that I did

23:52

not consider, and maybe you guys

23:55

have considered it because he was saying, I

23:57

actually prefer to fly. commercially

24:00

because Wi-Fi

24:03

on Saturdays, I get to fly

24:06

and watch college football when

24:08

it is that I'm flying. And it's something that I

24:10

had not considered at all because I'm looking at him

24:12

and I'm still saying to him, why wouldn't

24:14

you just get Wi-Fi on your plane?

24:16

And he's like, because it costs hundreds

24:19

of thousands of dollars. Now

24:21

it made me realize why the airlines are charging

24:23

me on top of what they already charge

24:25

me for their Wi-Fi. And it makes sense,

24:28

of course. I've gotten so spoiled

24:30

that I just expect to have internet access

24:32

when I'm 30,000 feet in the sky. And

24:34

he's like, I didn't want to keep doing that. If I'm

24:36

only going to use it six or seven or eight

24:39

times a year, I don't want to pay

24:41

hundreds of thousands of dollars for Wi-Fi.

24:43

I thought you were going to say, he's like, because I'm a

24:45

huge environmentalist, Dan.

24:47

I thought so

24:49

too, actually. You

24:51

know, the funny thing, Louis CK had this joke

24:53

about Wi-Fi where

24:54

he said he's like, I'm on the flight and

24:57

the

24:58

flight attendant gets on the mic and

25:00

says, congratulations, ladies and gentlemen. This is the first

25:02

commercial flight

25:03

to feature Wi-Fi access. So when we get in the air, everyone

25:06

pull out your phone. You'll be able to connect to Wi-Fi. So

25:08

we take off.

25:10

And then when we reach 30,000 feet,

25:12

the flight attendant comes back on and says, apologies.

25:15

There's something wrong with the Wi-Fi. So

25:17

it's not going to be working. And he says, the guy next to you says,

25:19

oh, this is bull. I'm

25:22

sorry, the thing that you just discovered 15

25:25

minutes ago. We're

25:27

all spoiled that way, man. Any

25:30

time

25:30

the Wi-Fi doesn't work on a flight, I'm

25:32

like, I'm so pissed. And then

25:34

I'm like, I look down. I'm like, I am 30,000 feet

25:37

in the air in a metal tube in

25:40

the sky. It's amazing I'm even here.

25:42

And then it makes me feel

25:43

a little bit better about the Wi-Fi. Wi-Fi and then

25:45

power. I

25:47

get so irate that there's no power plug

25:49

or if my power plug doesn't work, I cause

25:53

a fuss. I cause a fuss. Every second count. Every

25:55

second count. So absolutely. That's the one

25:57

to me. I can live with no Wi-Fi. tell

26:00

me ahead of time we don't have Wi-Fi on the flight. I don't

26:02

like getting on there and say, oh yeah, this one doesn't

26:04

have Wi-Fi. Tell me. Tell

26:06

me in the app. But the power, because

26:08

my devices, they suck so much power,

26:11

especially when there are 30,000 feet in the air.

26:13

I don't know why. If you don't give me a power

26:15

plug, I get incensed because it's

26:18

2022. I don't think that's asking too much. But when did

26:20

you become the guy who's this comfortable in

26:22

airplanes and airports to make scenes? You

26:25

have told me the story. Yeah. 75,000 miles.

26:28

Yeah. Executive platinum,

26:30

Dan. You've overheard people in

26:32

airports speaking freely, criticizing

26:35

the government. And you've thought to yourself, because

26:38

of where you're from, you've thought who's

26:40

crazy enough to speak ill of the government.

26:42

Dan's been trying to take it there since the beginning

26:44

of the second committee. I'll take it there. I'll give Charlotte

26:47

some background. Charlotte, when I first came

26:49

back to this country from Sudan, I've been living in Sudan for

26:51

six years, we're walking, we're

26:54

waiting in line for the customs. And the

26:56

one customs guy is talking to the other customs guy about, hey,

26:58

you get your taxes back? Like, no, I don't

27:01

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27:03

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27:05

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slash home dash trial. Don

28:11

Lebotard! Don Rivers, um,

28:13

you know, Joel's gonna, he's gonna tweet what he wants to tweet.

28:16

And I'm, quite frankly, I'm fine with it. If

28:19

anything, I want to go to Miami too. Is

28:21

that alright? I mean, isn't this supposed to be

28:23

in the front office by now? Hey, I can

28:26

hit the back nine right after practice. Oh, he'd love

28:28

that. Oh my god. Stugats! Me

28:31

and Joel, I mean, Stugats, that's a great

28:33

question. That's a great question. If they win game six,

28:36

that hurts my chances of coming down

28:38

here. That's the end of it. But Joel, it's

28:42

a real handsome question, Stugats. This

28:44

is the Don Lebotard Show with the

28:46

Stugats.

28:51

I wanted to begin here by talking

28:53

to Mike Dolek Jr., who's just been kind enough,

28:55

I didn't even know he lived in Los Angeles until

28:57

he sat down next to us. And

28:59

I wanted to start with him before

29:02

getting to Charlotte and Amin. But

29:04

Amin has been trying to shoehorn since we

29:06

got here into everything

29:09

that we're talking about. His Antonio

29:11

Banderas imitation,

29:13

impersonation. Why did this start? How did this

29:15

start? It's a good impersonation. It's

29:17

strong. But why did it start? We were talking about puss

29:20

in boots and all of a sudden you were doing your Antonio

29:22

Banderas. Well, we were talking about how these

29:24

mics are very lovely pieces

29:27

of equipment and they allow you to do voices

29:29

better, right? So Charlotte, you can do the NPR

29:31

voice, right?

29:33

Amin,

29:34

welcome to the

29:35

Dan Lebotard Show with Stugats.

29:38

It's

29:38

all about hitting those T's.

29:40

That mic allows you to do that. And the

29:42

other thing it does is it picks up bass very

29:45

well. So all those deep bass voices, like

29:47

no, like Liam Neeson. I can do that

29:50

a lot better on the mic than I can just walking around.

29:53

And so I

29:53

do the Liam Neeson one a lot, but then I

29:56

was like, let me try this Antonio Banderas.

29:58

This is a debut here. We have not, you have not. I've not tried

30:00

this in public before. It's a little scary for

30:02

you. It is, it is because I know I got

30:04

it well, done so well earlier

30:07

today. And now that the mics are on

30:09

and now we're recording, can I

30:11

reach the high, go, go, I was killing

30:13

it, man. I was killing it. Well, I heard a little bit right

30:15

before we got on here. So I'm very nervous. He was

30:17

better earlier. He's nervous. He was a little

30:19

better. You wanna think about it for a second and I'll talk to

30:22

Mike Golic and you just sort of get yourself

30:24

in the mode. Daniel Day-Lewis-Syle, let's

30:26

see if you, I'll give you a couple of seconds

30:28

to gather yourself and

30:30

perfect it in your head as we talk to Mike Golic. Thank you for

30:33

joining us. Right before the microphones came

30:35

on, I was professing my admiration

30:38

for the choices you've made to

30:40

work with your father at the end of

30:42

his career. You did something brave and

30:44

leaving ESPN before. It's

30:48

the end of your dad's career? I mean, it's

30:50

way closer to the end than it is to getting

30:53

it. I think he would even have done that. You've

30:55

got him going for 70 more years. What?

30:58

I mean, I'm assuming that Mike Golic

31:01

senior doesn't have to do much of

31:03

anything. And I'm also assuming that he's working

31:05

with his son because what a joy to

31:07

work with his son. The greatest professional blessing

31:09

of my life is getting old with my father

31:12

on television at what I was considering

31:14

toward the end of my career. So anyways, I was just telling

31:17

him that before things got

31:19

obviously shaky at ESPN, before

31:21

it became something that more people

31:24

were doing, Mike Golic with a future

31:26

at ESPN, with the name of ESPN that

31:28

ESPN would value for a long time, chose

31:30

something different because he wanted his life to

31:32

be a little bit bigger and he wanted his family

31:35

life to be a little more connected. And so

31:37

I've been awed by the choice that you

31:39

made. I don't think it's something a lot of people would have done.

31:42

No, and I appreciate that obviously as

31:44

someone who's watched and been a fan of you

31:46

when you're showing the things around it and seeing the way that

31:48

you guys have operated. I do

31:50

appreciate the credit for a lot of that foresight

31:53

when

31:54

I'm my father's fun. I'm a little bit more of like a C-ball,

31:56

hit ball player where it was,

31:58

oh, this seemed like an exciting opportunity.

31:59

Part of it was, hey, there's a chance for some

32:02

life balance out here. I had grown up and spent my

32:04

entire life in, you know, around

32:06

Bristol, Connecticut, where ESPN is. And

32:09

as everyone in this room knows, there's

32:10

not a lot much out there. There's a reason. And

32:12

one of many reasons that you guys were able to

32:15

avoid having to come up and be under the umbrella of

32:17

the mothership is there's a lot of good

32:19

that comes with being there, but having been

32:21

there since I was 11 years old, coming

32:23

back there as an adult, then to start

32:25

working, I did look around for the hours

32:28

it demands and what I wanted to put

32:30

in while I was working there. It didn't

32:32

afford me a lot of times as a single

32:35

adult going into my 30s who looked around

32:37

at some of the things that my brother, my sister,

32:39

their significant others were starting to do from

32:42

a family perspective. I was like, all right, if I've

32:44

got an opportunity that creatively is something

32:46

exciting, it's going to be a great challenge, allows

32:49

me the chance to continue to work with my dad as

32:51

that became an opportunity more

32:53

apparent to us as I got over here, and

32:56

maybe I can start to explore

32:58

some other things that you don't get in

33:01

central Connecticut. It's ESPN, the elevator

33:03

factory across the street, and then Lake Compounce,

33:05

where they have the picnic. And that's about it. You don't have a

33:07

lot of other stuff within ready range. And

33:09

so being out here and being

33:11

in a place where people are already

33:14

and people want to be, it was

33:16

a cool chance for an attempt at balance,

33:18

which I'm still trying to work on now. I'm

33:21

going to ask

33:21

you about how scary it was in

33:23

a second, but I, you're feeling better

33:26

about your impersonation. Are you feeling more confident

33:28

or less confident? Yes.

33:32

You shouldn't feel any more confident about

33:34

it. Given what you just did. No.

33:36

Antiquado is what you are. I,

33:40

you may know me from my other role

33:42

as Boos in Boots. I

33:45

mean, it pains me to say this. It's

33:48

pretty good. I'm pretty impressed. It

33:50

is less confident than it was a second ago.

33:57

I'd like to talk to Antonio Banderas

33:59

as he. leaks confidence. What's happening

34:01

inside you right now, Antonio, as you

34:03

leak confidence because you don't think that

34:06

this impersonation is something that you should

34:08

be doing? Antonio S I

34:25

have an idea. But it's too dangerous. But too many words.

34:27

How scary was it for you though,

34:43

Mike?

34:50

Or was it something when you say hit ball

34:53

because it's in front of you? Is it something

34:56

I have found generally speaking in anyone

34:58

that I talked to Dan Patrick on

35:01

there is a scariness in leaving

35:03

for change something that has

35:06

for our entire life felt very

35:08

safe. Mike

35:09

Bock Yeah,

35:10

there's definitely some of that that's still popped

35:12

up now. And I always make it very

35:14

clear that wasn't a place that I left with bad

35:17

feeling towards either I have nothing but gratitude

35:19

towards the opportunities that were afforded

35:21

to me by that place and a lot of the people

35:24

that I got to know there but there is a lot of safety

35:26

and security that also comes with that that every

35:28

once in a while wake up in the middle of the night and go, Oh,

35:31

man, like, am I gonna be okay? Like there

35:33

is a lot of long term security there. You do worry

35:36

about that stuff. But I guess I always

35:38

went back to and I didn't have the long

35:40

athletic career that my dad did, which means

35:43

I think at times I think about things a little differently.

35:45

Like my dad's an athlete that's doing this job.

35:47

When he goes, I would say like people that speak multiple

35:50

languages at once and the question is like, what language do you

35:52

dream and what do you think most coherently

35:54

in my dad dreams and athlete. That's

35:56

how he sees himself. And that's the prison that he sees

35:58

and makes decisions through And so I'm a little

36:01

bit less of that, that limited

36:03

sick, ketone, or banderes. But

36:06

I do think part of it is always, I look at

36:08

every situation as a challenge

36:11

for what I can control. And the success

36:14

in my mind, right or wrong, will always be

36:16

determined by what I'm willing to put into

36:18

something, how hard I'm willing to work that, and

36:20

how I approach whatever the given

36:22

task is. And so that was the way I

36:25

always kind of calm myself down, as I look at a

36:27

space now that is growing, and that has a lot of opportunity,

36:29

and that was part of the exciting part about

36:31

it, is also, all right, well, there are parts

36:34

of this that I can still control the same way I could

36:36

control the effort I brought to practice,

36:38

and all of that cliche stuff that we say about sports that's

36:40

true, but still applies to this. I wanted

36:42

to ask you all something about, Deadspin

36:45

wrote something recently about this move,

36:48

and undisputed was the starting point

36:50

on it, because they were using Lil Wayne, and

36:53

Michael Ervin, and Richard Sherman, and

36:55

Kishan Johnson. This move away

36:58

from journalists on television

37:01

to former athletes, and they were,

37:03

the Deadspin article was pointing out that

37:05

Rodney Harrison had gone after Zach Wilson,

37:07

calling him garbage, then Dante Whitner

37:10

had said that Dak Prescott sucks,

37:12

that LaShawn McCoy had called Dak Prescott

37:15

ass, and this general

37:17

movement away from whatever

37:20

the responsibility of journalists

37:22

is in commenting on games to

37:25

more and more former athletes. And

37:27

we've got, in this room, we've got a

37:29

little bit of everything here. Charlotte

37:31

comes from journalism, I come

37:33

from journalism, Mike Moore from

37:35

athletics, Amin from front

37:37

office. Come on, Dan, I was very

37:39

good at softball in high school. So,

37:41

put a little respect on my name, thank you. I

37:44

was putting a little respect on your journalistic

37:46

credential. Oh, for that, whatever.

37:49

What do you want with your commentating,

37:51

Amin? Do you want a balance?

37:54

Do you want the former athlete's opinion?

37:56

Do you understand as ESPN? gets

38:00

into a partnership with Pat McAfee where

38:02

he changes the rules on what journalism

38:05

is going to be because he's like I'm just going to give Aaron

38:07

Rodgers a bunch of money and I can do

38:09

that because I don't have to adhere to the journalism

38:11

rules that ESPN has adhered to. Yeah,

38:14

I mean, I think the what

38:16

we want is a balanced diet. I think there

38:18

is a place for that because

38:20

that's a perspective

38:22

that

38:23

we want to know about right when the

38:25

example I always use this was years ago

38:28

when Magic Johnson was on inside the Internet. And

38:32

they had this, it was Dwight Howard

38:34

had a bad first half and magic

38:36

said Dwight Howard needs to play

38:39

better. And I'm like, all right,

38:41

that's cool because it's magic Johnson. I get

38:43

it. But it's also like you haven't taken me anywhere

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that I couldn't go on my own in that same

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segment. Kenny Smith tells a story about one

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time Hakeem Elijah only had four shots at halftime

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and he came in the locker room and everyone thinks about him

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as this really nice guy, sweet sauce, both guys.

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He mother asked every single person in the locker

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room. And in the second half, we got on the ball and he scored 30

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in the second half. And I said,

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these are two athlete perspectives.

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One of us took us

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to the lobby where

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we were already sitting. One of us took

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us up to the penthouse and Kenny

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is nowhere near the caliber of player that magic

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Johnson was right. But that's

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the job. The job is when I do this,

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I'm going to take you somewhere that you couldn't have gone on

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your own, which is what front

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office people do. And then what

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the journalists do, they do sourcing

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to reporting through journalism. They

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take you places that you couldn't have gone on

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your own. When it turns into Dak Prescott

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sucks like, all right, like

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cool. But I need you to take

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me there as a player. Why does

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this is new though? You saw this happen with Jerry Judy

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and Steve Smith the other day. It's new for

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the athletes to rip other athletes.

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There's usually a professional respect there that

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doesn't go as far as LaShawn McCoy calling

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Dak Prescott.

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because I pointed out to someone the other day, that's what

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gets said and worse inside locker rooms. And I mean, you've

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seen that over and over again, but

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usually there's been that code amongst former athletes

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of, if we start saying it publicly,

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we invite everyone listening, every

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member of the fan bases, all these outside

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audiences to criticize in a way that's usually

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reserved for the people inside that brotherhood who

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inside locker rooms, yeah, say that stuff all the time.

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I also think it's a lack of imagination. It's

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not knowing what else to say. It's not knowing how

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to say it. It's reverting to shock

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value instead of like,

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well, let's break this. Why does he suck? Tell us why

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he sucks. Don't say he sucks. Anybody watching

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a game where an athlete

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sucks, it's like, yeah, that guy sucks. Like

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bring something to it and have the imagination

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to be able to give us something

40:45

we haven't had.

40:45

But then that's why the guys who

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do it really well stand out. Draymond Green,

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for all of his stuff, when he starts talking

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about it, it's like he has a gift

40:54

of explaining to you what he's

40:56

seeing. JJ Rettig, another guy who

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does a great job. They're not just telling

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you. They're telling you hows and why's. And

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so I think that's the big thing is, can

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you articulate that

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feeling of you suck or your ass? And

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beyond that, the journalist is only needed

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there to ask for the elaboration. Tell me,

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LaShawn, what is

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he ass?