1:59

consulting firm and

2:02

we've seen that the data, the

2:04

focus groups on this segment

2:07

are way low on it.

2:10

So we're trying to bring

2:12

a more positive up

2:15

vibe to this. So you telling

2:17

that story about the coral reef does not

2:20

help. Like tell the whole story.

2:23

First off, I've been working out so

2:25

I look jacked. Second

2:28

off, I had a coach prime shirt on.

2:31

Third off, big open

2:33

tooth pearly white smile.

2:36

Fourth off, little 90 pound

2:39

cheerleader at my right side.

2:42

No relationship. I'm married,

2:45

but it still feels good.

2:47

So we have to really work

2:49

on this to make this segment, you

2:52

know, turn into hockey sticks,

2:55

which is what this is all about.

2:57

We continue to try. I don't believe

2:59

you've ever had such difficulty

3:01

making anything into funny subject

3:04

matter. You were a head writer at Saturday Night

3:06

Live in your early twenties. You invented

3:09

funny or die. And here we

3:11

are still trying to get this off

3:13

the ground, but I do feel like the parachute

3:15

in the parasail has caught a bunch

3:17

of water here and we're in danger

3:20

of drowning a little bit. Do you have

3:22

any other business suggestions here for

3:24

what we should be doing with hyper objects?

3:27

Give this some strength to

3:29

give this a little more lightness

3:31

and buoyancy so that we can have whatever you're

3:33

calling hockey sticks.

3:35

Not whatever I'm calling

3:37

hockey sticks. Hockey

3:39

sticks are what pay your bills,

3:42

Mike's bills. I mean, don't

3:44

be kind of dismissive and

3:46

roll your eyes. So the big thing

3:48

we did with the McKinsey guys, which by

3:50

the way, they are dying

3:53

to have dinner with you. I mean,

3:55

chat, Crispin. of

4:00

Alia they are really

4:02

they would love to go out to dinner with

4:05

you and the McKinsey group

4:07

are fantastic Mike's been

4:10

hanging out with them a lot and they've really

4:12

hit it off I'm uncomfortable

4:15

with what you've done to Mike he's gone full Hollywood

4:17

and you've got him with these agents and

4:20

monsters and I don't know whether

4:22

I'm ever gonna get him back he is fully bought

4:24

in on all your Hollywood bullshit can

4:26

I just say this and I mean

4:29

this with all

4:29

due respect

4:33

shush Mike

4:36

is doing great Meadowlark

4:39

is doing great so the big thing

4:41

this group of brilliant talented

4:44

McKinsey people told me is

4:46

that even my image when

4:49

I pop up

4:51

feels flimsy so we

4:54

worked with and we spent a lot

4:56

of money on this and this you know

4:58

skippers a little pissed because

5:00

it comes out of Meadowlark so we

5:02

worked with some of the greatest Disney

5:06

animators in history and

5:09

focus groups and polling numbers

5:12

and we came up with the happiest

5:15

image we can come up with for

5:18

Adam McKay talking about climate

5:21

so I don't know if you're showing

5:23

that image now but

5:26

that image and

5:29

I'll you know show our

5:31

work a little bit here cost

5:33

six point three million

5:36

dollars the image you're

5:39

seeing and Dan quit

5:41

being cynical it doesn't seem

5:43

like a good spending

5:46

be a human being let your

5:49

body answer do you

5:51

feel better seeing that image

5:53

I mean yes but not

5:55

when you tell me what the price tag of the image

5:58

is like yes the image is the

6:00

image is better than not having the image,

6:03

but that seems like it's way too expensive.

6:05

Why are you steamrolling us in every

6:07

business adventure we make with you? I

6:10

mean the bottom line is, Dan, like

6:12

yes we're confronting a

6:15

climate emergency. Like the

6:17

climate is hotter than it's

6:19

been in 300,000, 700,000, a million years, but we

6:26

have a wonderful free

6:29

market economy that is operating

6:32

in the United States and worldwide.

6:34

And if we don't acknowledge that, we're

6:37

gonna just be running in place. So

6:40

I'm trying to be a grown-up.

6:43

I'm trying to talk about net zero,

6:46

carbon capture, all

6:48

the things that Chevron, Exxon,

6:52

Shell are talking about. So

6:54

we can do this in a grown-up

6:56

way. So as part of that,

6:59

I worked with the McKinsey Group, which by

7:01

the way, I mean Mike and I hit

7:04

the raw bar with them last

7:06

night. They are a blast.

7:10

And so... This feels wrong. This

7:12

really does feel wrong. This is not going

7:15

the way that I thought it was gonna go. I don't mean the segment.

7:17

I mean the relationship. I mean... So we're friends

7:20

outside this, right? Yes.

7:23

So can I be honest? I

7:25

hope so. You sound like

7:28

a 12-year-old. Like you

7:30

sound so naive

7:33

right now. Like, oh, it's wrong.

7:35

I can't go in a tree

7:37

fort because I don't... You don't know

7:40

what I mean? Greed is

7:42

not maturity, Adam. Greed capitalism

7:45

is not being my most maximum

7:47

mature adult. Look, if

7:50

you want to go hold the

7:52

radio up outside

7:54

the CEO of Goldman

7:56

Sachs like John Cusack

7:59

in... say anything. Like, do it.

8:03

But meanwhile, Mike and I are in the

8:05

grown-up world. We're trying

8:07

to get things done. I spoke with

8:09

our great McKinsey team

8:11

that's now working with Medallarc,

8:15

and we went through the idea of what

8:17

should the climate stat

8:19

of the day be. And

8:23

so there's a new climate stat

8:26

that will inform people but

8:28

not bum people out

8:31

or make them feel powerless. So... Hold

8:34

on. Hold on. I've got to play the imaging for this

8:36

if you're going straight into the stat, the horrifying

8:38

climate stat of the day. Are you doing that or are you going to cue

8:40

me? Because I had to travel with all of our equipment

8:43

here, and I've got a button. I've got to press if we're going

8:45

to get the music right. Well, I think

8:47

what we set up is not

8:49

what we're doing, because

8:51

I was just with Agrawia

8:54

and Travis

8:58

outside the office talking about this

9:00

climate stat. So we've kind of switched

9:03

it up. And the cool thing about this

9:05

climate stat is that we're getting

9:09

some sort of sponsorship money

9:12

out of it, that it's actually going

9:14

to make Medallarc and HyperObject

9:17

some money, but still we

9:19

kind of feel like, yeah, we're

9:22

taking money, but it's going to actually

9:24

help people understand

9:27

what's going on. So with that in mind,

9:29

I'd like to give it to you. Okay,

9:31

but I'm going to play my music here. And does the money

9:33

we're getting in sponsorship offset the

9:35

amount of money you spent on this ridiculous

9:38

AI figure that you have on the screen? No.

9:40

Okay. Excellent.

9:43

Hold on a second. Die. We're all

9:45

going to die. We're all going to die. We're all going

9:47

to die. The oceans are all burning. The sea is here. Why,

10:00

girl, so let's turn on the news

10:03

and find out where to

10:06

type. You're good.

10:08

When it comes to customer service

10:11

and quality energy

10:14

options, where does

10:16

Exxon rank? From

10:21

one to ten. What

10:23

do you mean, where do they rank? They rank. Number

10:27

one. No. Number one. So

10:30

that's the climate stat

10:33

of the day. What do you mean, Exxon

10:35

ranks number one in terms of energy

10:38

conservation? What are you talking about? I

10:41

mean, Dan, if you hear the

10:43

real climate stat of the day,

10:45

your listeners,

10:47

everyone's going to be bummed out.

10:50

It's going to hurt. Metal arc. Right

10:53

now, I'm looking through our studio

10:55

window. The McKinsey

10:57

crowd is going to be like neutral-faced.

11:01

They never get that oppy or sad,

11:04

but they'll get super neutral-faced.

11:07

Do you really want the stat

11:09

of the day? I want a climate stat of the day. Real

11:12

quick. We're at 1.75 degrees

11:14

Celsius warming above

11:17

pre-industrial numbers right

11:19

now. Once

11:26

we hit two degrees Celsius,

11:29

if that maintains a billion

11:33

people will die,

11:36

which is something like

11:38

eight times the amount of people

11:41

that died during World

11:43

War II. I just got a thumbs

11:46

down from the McKinsey crowd.

11:49

I don't think that people understand when

11:51

you go on these degrees

11:53

and Celsius and these decimal points.

11:56

Now, everyone understands a billion people

11:58

dying, but I don't think people necessarily

12:00

understand how we are

12:03

in a place that there is no turning

12:05

back from. That once we get to 2.0,

12:09

there's no fixing anything. Yeah,

12:11

I mean that's word for word what

12:14

the McKinsey crowd was telling

12:17

Mike and I last night at the Raw Bar,

12:19

by the way chilled crab claws,

12:23

oysters, I mean like it

12:25

was a four-tiered seafood

12:27

tower, flavored

12:31

martinis, apple flavored

12:33

martinis, a great great

12:36

night but they said that too

12:38

like America doesn't

12:41

use Celsius like

12:43

who cares how are we doing

12:45

this and I told them I was like

12:48

look it's really simple

12:50

you know oil gas

12:53

and coal we burn it it

12:55

goes into the atmosphere and it traps

12:58

heat and it cooks the planet

13:01

and then all of them gave that aggressive

13:04

neutral so we had a choice

13:07

Mike and I like do we ignore

13:09

that or do we look at professionals

13:13

who kind of get the big picture

13:16

and granted Mike and I had had a couple

13:18

of apple teenies at that point

13:21

but we both decided let's

13:24

go with the Exxon staff which by the way number

13:26

one for customer satisfaction

13:30

delivery of the energy Darren

13:33

Woods the CEO

13:36

great great job. They

13:38

bought you with oysters, Exxon

13:41

bought you with oysters. No stop

13:44

it and you sound like

13:46

a child. I'm

13:48

very disappointed with how it is that this is

13:50

all going all of it I'm talking about

13:53

all of it. Look at the

13:55

image of me it doesn't make me

13:58

feel any better really six point $3 million.

14:01

It was too much. I'm going

14:03

to give you that. Like Skipper

14:05

was like, why? It's not a good use of our

14:07

money, Adam. What are you doing? It's

14:09

not. So I think we have to

14:11

be honest with each other. I

14:14

screwed up on the image. That was

14:16

too much money. You screwed

14:19

up talking about the

14:21

climate like it's a bummer

14:24

emergency. Your status made up.

14:26

Exxon is not the number

14:28

one energy conservationist in the world.

14:30

What kind of stat is that? Not

14:33

conservationist. Customer satisfaction and

14:35

delivery of fossil

14:38

fuel energy. And

14:40

the other stat about how we're

14:42

at 1.7 degrees

14:44

Celsius warming today.

14:47

And once we cross 2 degrees

14:49

Celsius, a billion

14:52

people will die. By the way, that's a conservative

14:55

estimate. All right, I just got a big

14:57

thumbs down from the McKinsey

15:00

team. So I'm gonna stop

15:02

and I'm gonna say Exxon. Let's

15:05

just play the happy music. Yeah. All

15:08

right. We're working on it. We're working on

15:10

it. That's

15:13

exactly

15:14

how he was

15:17

laughing when he told me the

15:21

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15:27

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Dan Leb I

16:56

was like, where are we going with that?

17:07

Thank you, Brad Williams, Amin

17:09

and Charlotte in here with us in

17:12

Hollywood. I can't keep up anymore,

17:14

Amin, and I know you're having some trouble

17:16

with it too, but I'm alarmed

17:19

when Charlotte says she

17:21

is now woefully falling

17:23

behind. She is being left behind by

17:25

social media simply cannot keep up. Amin

17:27

I feel it happening. I

17:30

tried for a little while to

17:32

make TikToks and I was like, no

17:34

one's watching these. If I

17:37

think they're funny, nobody else thinks

17:39

they're funny. I'm wasting time making

17:41

something. So I stopped. Then Twitter

17:43

is just an absolute wasteland. So

17:47

I'm like, I can't look at this. I can't understand

17:50

my mentions anymore. And then Instagram,

17:53

I like some of the basic memes on

17:55

Instagram, and I like watching TikTok,

17:58

but I feel like I'm just giving up. watching

18:00

a car drive off without

18:02

me.

18:03

And I'm like, you know what? We

18:05

had a good ride. Godspeed.

18:08

No, it's, it's funny because

18:10

for me, I wonder whether is, is

18:13

Twitter slash X wasteland. Cause I remember

18:16

I used to be on top of like

18:18

the things that people talk about.

18:20

And now I feel like either the things that people

18:22

are talking about just don't make sense to me.

18:25

Like for instance, the 48 oyster

18:27

date, I don't know if you guys know, right?

18:30

Like I

18:30

would be, I would know what that is in previous

18:33

years. Right. Either, either it's that well,

18:35

it's this woman that went out on a date and she ordered

18:37

four dozen oysters. Apparently the date got

18:39

up and basically said, I'm going to the bathroom

18:42

and then just left. Right. But

18:44

that's not,

18:46

I don't think that's typically not something that I

18:48

would have cared about

18:49

or care about now. Or is it

18:52

that

18:52

it is something I used to care about and now

18:55

I just don't care anymore. So that'll

18:57

happen a lot of times. Then I'll be watching

19:00

a game. I'll watch the whole game and

19:02

you know, I'll rewatch parts of it and

19:04

I'll talk about it with my friends and stuff. And

19:06

then someone will say, did you see the whole controversy?

19:09

I'm like, what everyone on Twitter was talking about? Like

19:11

what?

19:12

Well, it was something in the third quarter. I'm like,

19:14

and I'm like, no. And this is the

19:16

kind of stuff that

19:17

people on Twitter like to

19:20

argue about. I'm like, I'm not, I'm

19:22

not interested in that anymore. I just don't care.

19:24

But there is a feeling of disconnection you

19:26

feel after that. Absolutely. And every time

19:29

I think I'm going to quit Twitter, then

19:30

the Kevin James meme happens

19:32

and I'm like, all right, I'm back in. Yeah. I saw that

19:35

on Instagram. Oh, okay. I saw it on Instagram

19:38

has become where I see things and

19:40

a lot of times the screenshots of things from Twitter.

19:42

Yeah. But I don't see it on Twitter.

19:44

I also do think though, the internet

19:46

is just like it's a corporate sinkhole.

19:48

Now it used to be that you could just stumble

19:51

along and find some weird like I

19:53

have all these sense memories and like

19:55

sort of flashes of images from like weird games

19:57

I would play or like some weird sites. someone

20:00

made where like, you know, a ghost pops up

20:02

for a second and then it goes away and it felt

20:04

so fresh and weird. And now it's

20:06

like, you see these things, you'll see

20:09

things on Instagram, you see them on Twitter, but

20:12

it's exhausting. It feels like there's this constant

20:14

churn of people needing to put out

20:16

these things to feed them out. And it loses

20:19

some of its wonder,

20:20

I think. So watch this. Are you

20:22

aware of why people are paying for blue check

20:24

marks on Twitter?

20:26

So they can post longer things?

20:27

I mean, that's, that's one of the perks. The biggest

20:30

thing is how

20:31

many followers you have on Twitter. Let me, let's start there. 85,000, 85,000. When

20:33

you tweet, your tweet is showing up

20:38

to

20:39

a fraction of a percent. They're throttling you. So

20:41

your 85,000 followers, only about 8,500 are

20:44

going to get Charlotte's actual tweet.

20:46

And the other ones, if

20:48

they stumble upon it through someone else

20:50

that they follow retweeting it, maybe, but they're

20:52

just not seeing your content unless they go to

20:54

your page, you pay for the blue check mark.

20:57

Every one of your followers is going to get it in

20:59

their curated timeline. Right? So then

21:01

you put on top of that.

21:03

If you are a blue check mark, which means you're paying

21:05

and you have a certain number

21:07

of followers and you have a certain

21:10

number of views of your posts

21:12

over the last three months, I think it's 5 million.

21:16

Then you start getting paid what

21:18

for your tweets. Yes. So

21:21

now, what is Elon like Venmoing

21:23

you on the side? Yeah. Like you put

21:25

in your bank account info and like every month

21:27

you get a certain amount of money. So

21:30

what we've done was what used to happen on

21:32

Twitter 10 years ago was Charlotte

21:35

would post some funny joke or

21:37

just like the funniest, most

21:39

brilliant joke you've ever heard or maybe

21:41

a picture of like a storefront that

21:43

you saw where they misspelled the word or whatever. And

21:45

it would legitimately go viral because we will

21:48

hunt. That's funny. And it goes, it goes around. Now

21:50

it's like, no, it's the ones that

21:52

are going viral or the people who paid money to

21:54

make sure their stuff go viral. And when you pay

21:56

money to make sure your stuff goes viral, are you

21:58

just saying, huh, that's a funny sign or

21:59

Or are you sitting around thinking of ways

22:02

to go viral? It

22:04

takes all the organic out of it. I feel like this is the

22:06

scene from the movie Twister where

22:09

Bill Paxton goes, they went out and got

22:11

themselves some corporate sponsors.

22:13

Now it's evil. I

22:16

have talked a lot about the

22:19

fact that we're not talking enough

22:21

about how people in general

22:23

are addicted to this

22:25

thing and

22:28

what they think are the realities of this

22:30

thing, even though there isn't a lot

22:32

of reality in what it is that's happening

22:34

there. I don't believe

22:36

that we've spent nearly enough time

22:39

examining, because I think most people I say

22:41

addiction, you say, okay, that's a pejorative term. You

22:43

don't want to be addicted to anything, but I don't think

22:45

we've spent enough time talking about

22:47

or examining what a mental

22:50

health calamity this entire

22:52

thing is that we are addicted

22:54

to. I have told my wife that if I was not

22:57

in this industry, I would frisbee

22:59

my iPad into the ocean.

23:02

I don't want to be connected to this

23:04

thing, but I feel like I have a responsibility

23:07

to be connected to this thing. And it's where

23:09

I feel like I'm always falling behind,

23:11

because if you're not constantly attendant

23:14

to it, you're missing out on the big 48

23:16

oyster story. You're

23:18

feeling like a real idiot because

23:20

Amin is saying something and you don't know what he's

23:22

talking about. And it has me at 4

23:25

a.m. on Sunday morning trying

23:28

to figure out why farting is trending,

23:31

because AOC evidently farted on

23:34

us or thought somebody thought she

23:36

farted. And I'm chasing just

23:38

these stupidities. Yeah. And

23:41

it takes me a while and I'm keeping

23:43

to be reminded of this, that the social

23:45

media world is not the world.

23:48

And it's not what the vast majority of people are thinking. Even

23:50

the Montgomery, Alabama, Doc Fight

23:52

video went viral. I was like,

23:55

cool, I'm going to talk about this on stage. And

23:57

I went right to stage and I talked about it. And

23:59

the audience is

25:59

Marketplace so she doesn't go to

26:02

Amazon anymore. She was to Facebook marketplace

26:04

and she's obsessed with this group called buy

26:06

nothing I don't know if you guys I know that

26:08

yes, so buy nothing for those you don't

26:10

know It's just a free exchange

26:13

you are you you say hey, this is what I

26:15

have. I'm charging no money and

26:18

Take it. I'm take it and

26:20

you are not allowed to pay anything on by nothing.

26:22

I mean trying to grab his phone But

26:26

the side effect of this is

26:29

My wife saw some records

26:32

on by nothing and I had just gotten a

26:34

record player So she wanted to do the very sweet thing of like

26:36

oh, I'm I'm gonna get my husband some records

26:39

So then we go she goes to this person's

26:41

house a strange house She

26:44

pulls up like I'm here for the records and they

26:46

go great They bought out like

26:48

four palette jacks of records

26:51

just insane and not records

26:53

that you want to hear like

26:55

mine comp on audio Three

26:59

copies Three different languages

27:02

and now she has a palette jack of records

27:04

in the back. Oh, she had to take it all she had

27:08

Person she didn't say no. She's like, okay. I

27:10

got myself into this scenario what?

27:13

Did the person buy it to give them away?

27:15

No, they got it from their

27:18

like

27:18

dead grandfather or something had it and I don't

27:21

want this Yeah, just get someone to come

27:23

to you.

27:23

Are they in your

27:25

like do you have them? Yes I

27:27

have all the records

27:28

There's a room in my house that is

27:31

now the record room and not in a way you like are

27:33

you gonna go back to? Buy nothing and now

27:35

sell the ones or give away the ones you

27:37

don't want if you're in the Los Angeles area

27:39

And you see me holding one record

27:41

buyer beware. It's not gonna be one You know what you

27:44

should do should bring them with you to the show

27:46

and then autograph them. Yeah, like sign them. Here's uh

27:51

Here's rosemary Clooney singing

27:54

a nursery rhyme, but I'm gonna sign it Oh

27:56

wait, that's literally a record that we have you

27:58

any of you

27:59

feel shame when your

28:02

computer tells you that your screen

28:04

time is up by week?

28:06

I have gotten mine down though. I've

28:08

just I've been like this is this feels awful.

28:11

I need to not look at this and then when it

28:13

does go up I feel yeah I feel

28:15

like I you know haven't gotten my steps in.

28:18

The screen time steps are

28:19

also directly correlated. It'll be like your screen

28:22

time went up 60 percent and you walked one

28:24

foot. You giant slob.

28:26

It's such a sobering moment when I'm just

28:28

sitting there on a Friday and all of a sudden the thing

28:31

pops up and it's like you average

28:33

12 hours a day and you're just

28:35

like ah and then it's uh and

28:37

you're down seven percent. He

28:41

just said to her like a like

28:43

an AA meeting support group good

28:45

for you. You're down your

28:47

screen time is down. I think Brad meant it. Thank you. I

28:52

was like you're working on yourself. You can't always tell around

28:54

here. Yeah you're getting better and that's

28:57

wonderful. Thank you so much.

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I have told you guys how alone

29:43

I feel trying all over

29:46

America to pay cash for

29:48

things and feeling I'm

29:51

being discriminated against because

29:53

my cash is no good unless you have

29:55

a tip jar because so many of these places

29:58

they'll take only my credit card.

29:59

right up until the tip jar is there.

30:02

They all have tip jars and those don't take credit

30:04

cards. I'm telling you right

30:05

now, Dan, I'll take your cash anytime

30:07

you need. Well, I was delighted to

30:09

go to a comedy show earlier this

30:11

week and have this happen because

30:14

it was cash only, first

30:16

of all, cash only, and not

30:18

only cash only, but so old school

30:20

that when I got there, the woman who took

30:23

my cash went and fished the change

30:25

out of her bra. Yeah. Put

30:28

the cash in her bra

30:30

and took it out of her bra. But

30:32

do you think that if there are many

30:34

cash only places anywhere that

30:36

people now with cards, that the tide

30:39

has shifted so much on this, that people

30:41

with cards feel like I do with cash,

30:43

what do you mean I only can

30:46

pay cash here? That seems like something

30:48

that's unfair to me. Is the reverse happening?

30:50

Oh yeah, I never have cash. And if

30:52

they say I can't pay with even

30:54

my phone, like sometimes I'll walk around

30:56

without even a card. I'll just

30:58

have my phone out doing the little double tap, look

31:01

at your face, beep.

31:03

The wild thing is when I was a kid,

31:05

I learned in social studies that cash

31:07

is legal tender, meaning they cannot

31:09

refuse you if you're paying in cash. So

31:12

even if you showed up to McDonald's as I did

31:15

in high school, I get offended every time. With a jar

31:17

full of pennies and counted them

31:19

out to buy four

31:21

cheeseburgers, there were 39 cents a pop on Wednesdays.

31:24

They had to take it.

31:25

And now yesterday, or maybe

31:28

the day before yesterday, I went to

31:31

a breakfast spot. I'm not gonna give them free

31:33

pub, even though I love their

31:34

breakfast sandwiches. And

31:37

they- You know I love their Big Mac. Oh

31:39

man. And they were, no cash. The

31:42

woman in front of me tried to pay in cash, sorry, no

31:44

cash. And I said, are you allowed to do that?

31:46

I thought that was illegal. Or has that changed?

31:48

Have they changed that law? Or was that never a law? What

31:51

does that lie to during social studies? On Sunday,

31:53

I went to a concert that it said on the ticket,

31:55

this is a cashless venue,

31:57

which I'm like, great, I never have cash.

31:59

Maybe it's just- and no one's enforcing it.

32:01

Maybe it's not legal.

32:03

There you go, Dan. Start lobbying. It doesn't

32:05

seem to me like it should be legal.

32:07

I don't know if you guys have noticed, incidentally,

32:10

because Mike's mood

32:12

can be something that is sometimes

32:15

hard to read. But I feel

32:18

like Mike Ryan, I don't know if I've analyzed

32:20

this correctly, but I feel like Mike Ryan hasn't

32:22

been himself at all this week,

32:24

and I think the reason for it

32:26

is because he hasn't gotten

32:29

the airtime that he wants to laugh

32:31

at Deion Sanders in Colorado that it

32:34

happened on Saturday. And

32:36

I got up on Sunday morning

32:39

to a bunch of texts of photographs

32:42

of what I thought was some of the

32:44

whitest celebrating I'd ever seen.

32:47

It's not only Stanford football offensive

32:49

linemen, but they are, it

32:51

looks like they're flexing, and what they're actually

32:53

doing is they're doing Shador Sanders,

32:56

the flashing of the Rolex,

32:58

but none of them are wearing watches. Like

33:01

they're all flashing the Colorado

33:03

bench, making fun of Colorado

33:06

and Shador Sanders for that celebration.

33:08

This is where the Miami persecution complex

33:10

comes from, because I was just on the heels of an entire

33:13

week of everybody laughing at Miami, and

33:15

granted, it was embarrassing

33:17

for different reasons, but that is a national

33:19

embarrassment. These are not my words, these are

33:21

Coach Prime's words. He's fessed up

33:23

to it being super embarrassing.

33:26

Yeah, I would have liked to have laughed at their expense

33:28

a little bit more, considering that

33:30

Dan Lebitard has been quoted as saying, one year

33:33

in, he's fixed it. He's fixed

33:35

it a lot. No, I said he's worth the money. He's worth the

33:37

money. There's no dispute that he's worth the

33:39

money. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

33:41

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Wait a minute, wait

33:43

a minute. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Wait a minute. You

33:45

gotta clear it out. It takes time to fix it. They

33:48

are relevant. That is

33:50

winning. Well, not relevant enough to

33:52

apparently wait till

33:54

midweek to laugh at their expense

33:56

here on the Dan Lebitard show, because that

33:58

was hilarious.

33:59

for all the amazing reasons. And I do

34:02

want to give credit to Travis Hunter because he played

34:05

with a, a

34:06

lacerated

34:07

liver, I think. And you

34:09

would say that, wow, he really struggled in that game. He gave

34:11

up about 300 yards to a Stanford receiver

34:14

that was just bullying him. But also Travis

34:16

Hunter, the receiver was brilliant in that game. So

34:18

I can't on one end say, well, he was bad

34:20

because of the injury and then ignore

34:23

how great he was on the other side of the ball. It's a

34:25

little odd when you have that.

34:26

This being said, I

34:28

love Deon Sanders leadership throughout

34:30

that. And I've credited him with his

34:32

approach on certain kids, even though

34:34

Cormani McLean was absent on the field, I guess

34:36

he stepped into it again. I think

34:39

his leadership and believe

34:41

me, the cameras were there to catch it about ignoring social

34:43

media. And this loss

34:45

was difficult on a lot of the players.

34:48

It's unfair, the expectations that we've projected

34:51

over the last few weeks in the coverage that we've projected

34:53

on Colorado because Colorado is

34:55

absolutely the type of football team year

34:57

over year from last year that can blow a

34:59

lead to Stanford

35:01

that can eke out of victory over Arizona state.

35:03

That is their class.

35:04

It's unfair what we put on them. But

35:06

if you're going to put them on there, if you're going to run

35:08

an entire week's worth of daytime content

35:11

from ESPN and crown their

35:13

ass, then we're going to laugh at them too. But that's,

35:15

that's the problem, right? Like we, there is no in between.

35:18

You can't have

35:19

a sober appraisal

35:21

of what they are. It's either,

35:24

Oh my God, he's amazing. They're amazing. Of

35:27

course that's what he does. But I think

35:29

one of the things that you mentioned is I'm

35:32

staggered how people aren't listening to the things

35:34

that he's actually saying, because through all

35:36

of that, Deanna is incredibly old school

35:38

in the way he coaches in

35:40

the way he holds people accountable. Like the

35:43

Cormani McLean thing is fascinating

35:45

because

35:46

how many other schools in America would have been

35:48

like hell with it. Just play the kid. He was

35:50

a big time recruit and he'll

35:52

figure it out. Right. And Deon saying,

35:54

no, we have expectations and standards. And if you

35:56

don't meet them, I don't care. You're not going to play.

35:58

And those are expectations.

35:59

at Colorado. Right.

36:02

Which is, it's a lot easier to become academically

36:05

eligible at the University of Colorado.

36:07

It's a lot easier to throw someone out there like

36:09

Hormone McLean, given where Colorado was

36:11

as a program out there from everybody

36:13

else. But you've warped people,

36:16

people that have been in this industry for a long time

36:18

that are crowning their ass. Well,

36:20

but the opposite side, right? People who

36:22

are intent on, he's awful,

36:25

they're awful. Ha ha ha. See,

36:27

I told like, like I said, there's

36:29

no place. Never been me. I'm enjoying

36:32

laughing at their expense because I find

36:34

it's absurd the credit that he's getting right there.

36:36

Sure. But like Danny Canell,

36:38

for instance, I'm like, some, some of the things he says, I'm like,

36:40

that's an FSU thing though.

36:42

With Danny. Sure. But it

36:44

represents. There might be other things. Sure. Absolutely.

36:48

But it represents kind of the

36:50

other side of almost,

36:52

there has to be

36:54

an infinite amount of hatred

36:56

because there seems to be an infinite amount

36:58

of love. One of the things that I thought was mind

37:01

blowing was that first loss

37:03

they had where you had

37:06

all the people all the way on this side doing

37:08

a victory lap.

37:09

And then, oh

37:10

yeah. So he lost Oregon. And remember

37:12

the video came out of the speech where

37:15

the coach comes out and says, they do it for clicks.

37:17

We do it for whatever, whatever, something

37:19

more noble, something more noble. Right.

37:22

And, and of course, or something less flashy,

37:24

something less black, something, whatever

37:26

he was doing, he was doing something that suggested

37:29

we're the opposite of whatever they are. That's the thing

37:31

that hold on. Right. So the number of people who

37:34

are in our

37:36

industry, who have been very raw, raw

37:38

Dion Sanders, who took so

37:41

much offense to that speech. I said,

37:43

have you been in a locker room before? Do

37:45

you think guys, now those are good guys out

37:47

there. We're pretty good too. Let's go out there

37:49

and give them a good. No, you go out there. They're evil.

37:52

We got to destroy them. I once heard a

37:54

coach in our locker room as

37:57

part of the pep talk to say that.

37:59

team were playing Cleveland, like

38:01

they they're from the East. We're out here in the West.

38:04

You guys don't remember the cold war and the cold

38:06

war, the West and the East were

38:09

mortal enemies and our mission was to destroy

38:11

the East tonight. Guys, our cold war

38:14

begins. I'm like, you made a cold war

38:16

analogy because we're on a regular

38:18

season game against Cleveland in like February

38:20

or whatever. But that's what the locker

38:23

room speeches are. And then they're supposed

38:25

to be over the top and very

38:28

kind of polarizing.

38:29

The whole thing reminds me a little bit of

38:32

The Bachelor.

38:33

Hear me out.

38:34

Everybody said on The Bachelor people would be like, well,

38:37

you know, or The Bachelorette say, Bachelorette, you have

38:39

one woman, a bunch of guys and guys would be like,

38:41

well, he's not here for the right reasons. And

38:43

I am. And it's like, no, you're

38:45

not. You're here every we're all here to be on television.

38:48

We're all here to make money for ourselves

38:50

and for this program. We're all here to

38:52

win. There

38:53

are no right reasons.

38:54

So I think that there's a lot of this

38:57

equivocating between, well, Dion's

39:00

not doing it the right way or he's doing

39:02

it the flashy way when,

39:05

you know, even the what is Colorado State?

39:07

Yeah, coach, the matter. No, no, nobody

39:09

cares. The

39:10

blue collar guy. It's like

39:11

the guy who doesn't wear sunglasses. Yeah,

39:13

everybody's

39:14

playing the same game. They're just

39:16

playing it differently. And Dion

39:18

is playing it very well because everybody's

39:21

talking about him, which I think

39:22

is the goal. This is the part that I don't think

39:24

that Mike's being fair to me on because I didn't

39:27

crown them. They were one of the worst

39:29

power team power five teams. What

39:31

are you making faces about? I mean, I

39:34

was celebrating the fact that

39:36

they were going to be and are better than

39:38

they were last year. And the over under

39:40

on them was three and a half games won

39:42

this season. And they, they top

39:45

that very early.

39:48

But

39:54

also,

39:54

I mean, I think nationally right now,

39:56

the reputation of Colorado is

39:59

better than.

39:59

Miami's and yeah, I believe

40:02

which is part of the problem too because

40:04

that's that's irrational

40:06

It's a rational if you look at just the results

40:11

You calling someone else irrational

40:13

No, it it is and I'm talking out of both sides

40:15

of my mouth too because I get caught up in it too Because

40:18

I was very much enjoying

40:20

Sanford's victory and it's not

40:22

even so much over coach prime

40:25

But it's all the people

40:26

that have viewed this through

40:28

They're interesting

40:31

the person like you guys the greatest

40:34

thing ever content factory. That's

40:36

all I'm rooting for man at this point in my life

40:38

I don't care who wins or loses just who's

40:40

producing the stuff I can talk about But ultimately

40:43

he's going to be judged by who wins and

40:45

loses and the discourse around him is unlike

40:47

anything We've ever seen because you

40:49

know what I get hit with when I enjoy Them,

40:52

you know just

40:54

growing I think on a normal timetable but

40:56

through the eyes of some given where the expectations

40:58

were a misstep here or there is

41:01

it reminds me a lot of the Cam Newton discussion

41:03

when I came out with very valid criticisms that I was

41:06

Found out to be right several months after the

41:08

fact, which is I get hit with racism. You're a racist

41:11

I get hit with racism accusations because this

41:13

is certainly galvanized a black audience

41:15

if you see the the numbers if you see

41:17

who's on the sidelines, this is very much a black

41:20

empowerment story Everyone

41:22

is rooting for Dion Sanders and

41:24

many white people to to get this right

41:27

to shift the paradigm To have people

41:29

finally skip a line that wasn't afforded to them.

41:32

I understand all that But

41:34

to line up in opposition of that

41:36

and say let's hold our horses and get hit with

41:39

the other extremes on it Isn't necessarily

41:41

fair either I think that the entire

41:43

Dion discourse while being fascinating is also

41:45

totally out of hand You're saying though wins

41:48

and losses says how he's going to be measured and

41:50

I disagree

41:51

To me how he's gonna be measured. Did he make money

41:53

for the program? Did he do right

41:56

by the program by making it matter

41:58

again? I don't all the programs

41:59

Jimbo Fisher has

42:02

made a lot of money

42:03

for Texas A&M football. That is

42:05

not like they're going to the Big 12. They're going

42:07

to make money. I understand what you're saying. He

42:09

win at the business. He's won at the business

42:12

already. He's paid for himself. That's winning.

42:14

If they have two consecutive three win seasons

42:16

following this, like he's not going to be. Their

42:19

stadiums are full. Their stadiums

42:21

are full. The stadiums aren't going

42:23

to be full once the novelty wears

42:25

off and he keeps throwing up bad seasons.

42:28

What I'm saying is ultimately in

42:30

that industry, coaches are judged by

42:32

wins and losses.

42:34

And this one is doing it differently at

42:36

a program that has done nothing but lost

42:38

for 30 years and is now making an enormous

42:41

amount of money, but they're also still losing.

42:43

They're low in their division. They

42:46

are low in their conference. What did you say? What

42:48

place are they in in their conference? I mean, they're second to

42:50

last right now in the Pac-12 conference. There's a

42:53

meme that makes me laugh every time, which is like

42:55

the

42:56

standings and then the dude in third

42:58

is just

42:59

throwing champagne all over his face. But

43:01

it's like the Pac-12 and there's like 14 teams

43:03

on there on the second to last stool is the Colorado

43:06

person on the medal stand spraying

43:09

themselves

43:09

with champagne. Biting the medal.