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is the Dan Labrador Show with the Stoogatz Podcast.

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I don't know if people are feeling the

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writer's strike yet. Already

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my content feels like it's

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a little bit worse or my options are

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a little more limited. And I think because

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this is gonna go on for a while, Mike

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Schur hasn't been around recently.

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I think someone just mentioned to me that

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he's so happy about the Heat losing that

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he has gone on a Metallark paid vacation

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to Paris to celebrate just that

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this show stops talking Miami

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Heat basketball, but he is leading

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the writer's strike. It is a lot of pressure.

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They don't think it's.

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going to end anytime soon. And when they need

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more and more content, it won't just be

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reality shows. It's going to be game shows

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as well. May I ask you how you found

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a way to catch up to all of content? I

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don't understand. Like how have you had time?

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I haven't gotten around to Homeland yet. What?

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What? There is a lot

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out there, but I'm telling you on the new

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stuff. Okay. I find myself nightly

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sort of frustrated that I can't get,

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uh, you know, uh, just the Bill

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Maher show, John Oliver show, any of

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the late night stuff and the

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what's coming for us soon in six

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months, because there's a glut. They have some that some

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stuff that's already been made. But if this

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goes on for a long time, you're all going

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to feel it where your content options feel

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more limited than they have in a long time. I'm finally

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going to get around to Ray Donovan. This is

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an exciting time in entertainment. This

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is the best. Okay. So it's going to

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slow down. I'll watch the premiere of vinyl

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on HBO, a

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vinyl that last one season. Score.

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It's easy, huh? It was a

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good show. It was good. Ray Romano.

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And then it wasn't. Was it good? It was

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good. Come on. Score. CZ.

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I mean, why did it die after one year?

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If it was an excellent show politics,

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you know, how exactly that's

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a sounds like an informed answer. Politrix

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more like it. When, when,

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when season two of luck coming out, the

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horses were an issue. Yeah. Remember that?

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Yeah. The horses. That's, I'm so happy that we

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were actually having that discourse and then the show ended

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and then we went 15 more years just killing

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all the horses. I couldn't watch the Belmont

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the same way. I ended up feeling bad for just

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the whipping of the horses because we've gotten

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to killing so many of these things. But the point

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I was getting to when I talked about game

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shows, find out what VEEP is like and

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what the future of television is going to look like

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without writers. Jonah from beat pan

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of

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the show. I get to watch what all

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the hullabaloo is about nurse Jackie. What

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was the point of that contribution? Here's

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the story. I'm just a supotty guest. You want him as a celebrity

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prognoste? He was? Yeah, he's fun. I

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finally get to know what Dan was talking about when

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he was saying, billions is must-see

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TV. Who

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catches up to entertainment? It's

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impossible. Compliment,

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friend of the show.

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No, not actually. No,

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he's been wanting to meet me for years and I avoid

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him. Why? Because

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you're too busy watching everything on television.

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You're too busy watching his shows to actually meet

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with him. Because he's sniffing

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around a lot of sports writer types. Who's

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on stupidity? It's a bit of a whore. But

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what I was getting to is that Pat Sajak

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announced after 41 years,

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Pat Sajak announced that he is retiring

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this next upcoming season. We're gonna talk to Ken

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Jennings in the next couple of

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days, but Pat Sajak is

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leaving television after a four-decade

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run as a game show host. And the

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thing that I wanted to ask you guys is

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what is the best of these? Because Wheel

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of Fortune has to go in the conversation

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as not just one of the best

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game shows of all time, but one of the longest-running

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television shows of all time. The idea

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that this guy has been a television host for 41 years is

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just

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straight up nuts and we just lost Trebek

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and Jeopardy! doesn't feel the same. I don't know

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how well it's doing with Ken Jennings,

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but

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I wanted to ask you guys, not

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just the best of these, if you can only pick

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one, you're only allowed to pick one for

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all time, but also going

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forward,

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do these have any sort of stickiness

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for you in the future? Any

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of the new ones? Any of the... Game

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shows? Yes, because I think they're gonna start

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doing more and more of these when

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they start running out of content

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because they're easy to make as television.

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And I'm wondering what kind of staying power

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those have in 2023 and beyond. And

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if, if Pat Sajak, if we're basically...

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the end of an era and the end

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of a breed. I don't care about that nearly

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as much as I find interesting. The

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ecosystem that changes around the entertainment

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and how that steers us in a different direction.

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So like I had this conversation with Mike Sher a

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couple weeks ago, where we were talking about

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how the changes in the CBA

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has caused for different like evolutions

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in the game. So we look back now in football, and

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we think as a foregone conclusion that a rookie,

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a quarterback on a rookie deal is how you win a Super Bowl.

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Like no, that happened after

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the CBA that I was involved in negotiating.

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You change the pay

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scale for rookies and then look

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at me, Louie. Yeah, I mean, I mean

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reacted that way. Yeah, I could feel him

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waving around.

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Ha ha ha. Look at me,

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Louie.

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It's not necessarily something to be proud of as

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much as we don't appreciate

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how the decision is what happened. And

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you institute max contracts

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in basketball and that leads to an era where

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players empowerment and player movement

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happens more frequently. And we talk about

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the history of the game as if it was the

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game's evolution and not the impact on it. And

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when that applies to entertainment, you talk

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about how reality television

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became a big thing as a response

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to the last writer strike. I'm interested

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to see

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now that we're in this more modern era

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where TikTok is taking over the media

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landscape, I'm interested to see and predict

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where we think the entertainment is going in the future. And

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I don't think it's gonna be with 13

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year old kids consuming Wheel of

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Fortune. Here's where it's going, Deadwood.

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The problem also is that

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television in some areas became very bloated.

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When you look at the budgets for the Lord

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of the Rings show for Game of Thrones,

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there's no reason a TV

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show should cost a billion dollars to me. Like

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that's just insane. I disagree.

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Do you thought that was a good ROI?

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No, I don't necessarily think that that was good. I don't

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watch Lord of the Rings, so it didn't do it for me. But I

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don't think the problem is in the...

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High quality stuff as much as the problem

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is the glut of entertainment that they use

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aren't you happy that you finally have the time? To

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get around to Lord of the wing Lord of the

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Rings. I get to watch our list That's

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what's coming next by the way when they don't have writers

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Lord of the wings. That's a cheap ripoff

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Go to the flats load of the wings remember

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wasn't there a show called wings? Yeah

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Lord of the wings like a mashup. Yeah, there's a lot. There's

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so much content too much

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And I don't know how

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Dan's managed to watch all of it But

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I am so happy that we have

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this moment in time where we can all

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watch our teams in the finals Probably

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lose both finals

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take a minute and then catch up

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to true blood I feel like no one's

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answering your question which was which is

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the best game show of all time And will any

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of these game shows stand the test of time

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family feud? I'm trying family

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feud has been Evolution

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of family feud has been kind of amazing because Steve

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Harvey has made it just as good as the original So

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what what he's done and what they've done

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very cleverly is they've made

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it into a show that Adapts

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very well

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to tick tock Instagram and social media

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right the problem with jeopardy is the

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the only moments that go viral I don't

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know the answer Jeopardy

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and wheel of fortune the only time they go viral is when someone

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gets the answer Horribly

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wrong like the guy who said a chilies instead of Achilles, right or the

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person who thought that like, you know You

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know Mike Trout was the best fisherman

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ever whatever. Yo who is my trout

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like you really fell apart. Yeah, I know I couldn't

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it

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was a specific sports one It's for

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the first time in a while I know No

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slime that's the problem You

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could have stopped on a chilies you

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didn't have to give a second example a kill it

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family viewed family view what family viewed has gone

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for it is that a

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Steve Harvey is really good at conversation

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right that goes beyond the game

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and Be even when the answers

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are right We still can have a great laugh

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at it because the topics are ridiculous and

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so it makes it very Snackable Dan

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that's a term that the people use when they

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say you could take this 30 minute show and

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take like a two minute segment or a 30 second

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segment or so That's what's happened to late night television.

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It's been consumed by we need more Faster

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instantaneous shorter. I don't want to watch

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it on your schedule I'm gonna watch it on

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my schedule like I just missed six feet

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under I didn't see any of it The trivia

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shows don't have writers like they're not part of

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this strike

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the trivia shows I don't like jeopardy

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is like a trivia like you someone's writing all of

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those questions I don't believe they're members of the Union

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that's the big difference Can

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you guys tell me on wheel of fortune

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where it is that you're putting it and

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on? Game show hosts for all

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time where it is that you're putting Pat

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say Jack high up

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how high up on the list both in the top

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five for me say Jack Probably

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number two behind Bob Barker

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what yeah Alex to Beck would

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like a word and my list You

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have him popping out like the Ecuadorian woman

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wanting a word Wanting

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a word who is Alex Trebek?

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I've been wanting to watch tilt since

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2005 good show they call him the matador

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put it up on the pole juju at lebitar

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show. Can you keep up

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with? entertainment I Just

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I cannot fathom the idea of a television

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show existing for 41 years Do

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you know how much has changed in 41 years?

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Do you know that that what is taking place

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here three blocks from here is

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something? I couldn't have possibly imagined 41

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years ago With

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Reagan in disguise as an actor as a

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president leading a party into this Can

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I ask a question Mike brings up a great point

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about the? Ridiculous wealth

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of shows and entertainment out there. Do you

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guys feel like?

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I do like the NBA Finals ended yesterday baseball

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really doesn't kick take up until

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September like this down

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period of sports for summertime Oh

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my god, I

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can finally breathe I don't have to feel paranoid

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like what game am I supposed to be watching right now? You

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can finally watch rescue me on DVD

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box You found some relief

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in the NBA Finals being over Oh

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every year. I'm with you every year Suga it's like

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I love it. The finals are amazing. It's

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an exciting time. Most of time

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is great basketball Not last night, but

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when it's over, I'm like, thank God.

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I don't have to worry about what's on so your

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yokich Your yokich

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basically. Thank God. It's over. I'm tired.

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I hate my work. I hate hits the job I hate

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keeping up. I hate that. I have to watch he

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never goes home. I have to watch sports and entertainment I

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hate it. He does and my favorite part

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is he doesn't say I hate my job He

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says everybody hates their job, right? Like

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he was like wait, hold on. Are we that all on the same page

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here? Were you

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not startled by that?

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And yes, I was imagine how good it'd

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be if he loved his job. It's

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incredible But to

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your point you need a break

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you need a break from sports. You need a break

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from entertainment That's the problem with entertainment.

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There's too much content. There's

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too much relentless television My

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wife is binge watching. She's up

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on all these shows. I can't keep up.

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I can't catch up with her She's watching

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shows. I've never heard of and she's been binge watching

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them for four months

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I can't keep up with all the content. We're

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too much too much variety and we are all

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identifying with the yokich

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Except our horses are Rizzoli

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and Iles Can you please?

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Greg Cody Explain

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to me. Did they ever have a crossover? You

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know, it's like right there for the taking Rizzoli

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and Iles meets Franklin and bash

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Do you know what binge watching is it

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doesn't take four months it

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takes four months when you binge watch like 19 shows

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in a row. It's taking me a year to finish

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The Patient and that show is 20 minutes.

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Exactly. Zagac.

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Also I've

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watched all seasons of Blippi front

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to back. Get ready

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Greg. That's what's happening actually

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my daughter is hogging my television.

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Bluey. I wish you would watch

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Bluey. Yeah Bluey's good. I watch I actually

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got her into Beethoven. Did you know that Charles Grodin

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was 56 years old in

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that movie and Bonnie Hunt was 29 and

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they never addressed the age difference.

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Grodin looked very good for 56 so they thought he could

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pass. Odd

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aside. Put her on the poll Juju.

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Did Grodin look very good

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for 56? Wasn't that the same thing

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with Jurassic Park? When Jurassic Park there's a

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massive age difference.

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What do you think Greg? I never

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knew there was an age difference in Jurassic Park.

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Or or uh.

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This is a new and unimproved Dan Levatar

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Don Libertard. If I'm at the house

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with them and they're all rooting, I could just be like, yeah, rah, rah,

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rah, go Yankees. Stugats. You

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know how unsettling it would be if I attended a live

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sporting event and someone behind me was

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just going, rah, rah, rah,

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Browns, raw heat.

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Raw, raw, raw. This is the Don

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Libertard show with Stugats.

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We have a very flimsy

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wheel of topics right here. Only

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two topics on it. The two topics

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are Jack Grealish

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or World's Dirtiest Man. Go

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ahead and spin the wheel please and tell

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me, I mean, I can't see it from here, so tell

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me where it is that it lands. Let's

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see here. You got it, Dan. Probably

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flip a coin, I mean. Thank you, I mean,

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that's not how the wheel works. You got to respect

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the wheel. What did it land on there, I mean?

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World's Dirtiest Man.

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I love that story. I just, I

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fell in love with Amu Haji as

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soon as I read about him. A

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hermit from Iran who

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dies at age 94 after having not

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bathed in 67 years. The

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India Times wrote an obituary and described

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him as looking like the biblical

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Moses

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fell down a chimney

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and he lived his entire life

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with dirt caked on him. He smoked

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a pack of cigarettes a day. My man.

17:39

He sustained himself eating the

17:41

rotten meat of dead animals.

17:44

He smoked dried animal

17:46

feces out of a rusty pipe. This

17:49

guy lived his life. Nobody

17:51

was going to tell him how to live. I

17:53

admire that guy. I hope his funeral was

17:56

well attended and people probably

17:58

kept a distance because the way he

18:00

smelled alive imagine how he smelled

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dead but RIP

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Amu Haji the world's

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dirtiest man died

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in October yep strange

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for you to bring it up we're celebrating

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them yeah

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November December January February March

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everybody agrees on their own timeline you think they

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cleaned him not at all

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no he

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actually died after

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taking his first bath in over a half century

18:31

really is that right should have stayed dirty yeah it

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would have been a disservice to clean him

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post mortem how you know his draws

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looked I don't know but somehow you could just dirtier

18:40

how does he not get a flagrant

18:42

for that elbow should have been in foul trouble

18:44

yesterday I was I was saying a group text

18:47

how essential it was to get that third foul

18:50

and it did come I think midway through the fourth

18:52

I mean

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can I ask you something about what you

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witnessed this morning at 807 a.m. where

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you were trying to say hello to Stu gots

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and he was scurrying away to go

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smoke heater and telling

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you just please come over here so I could

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blow smoke in your face and the

19:12

breakfast heater how did you know exactly

19:15

how it went it's pretty close I

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was trying to be respectful of a mean

19:19

and his air and the

19:21

air that he breeds and a mean

19:23

was kind of asking me why I was walking away

19:25

from him and I said I'm about to

19:27

light a cigarette and so I didn't want to

19:29

blow it in his face I was trying to do

19:32

right by a mean Elhasto that's all I would

19:34

confirm Stu gots his account he

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was scurrying away I said where you going and he said

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I've got to go smoke unless you want me to blow smoke on

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you right and then he said come over here I'll

19:43

give you a hug and at that point I said I

19:46

take a rain check and as I walked in

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I said do we do rain checks anymore put

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it

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on the pole please that lebotard showed

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do we do rain checks anymore

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I don't even know why we call them range it's like from baseball

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right like it rained out

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No, is that what it's from range a rain checks

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not a baseball a rain delay. That's not where rain

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check comes from Is it I'm gonna keep them like

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it's raining there got rained out So you come back the

20:08

next day and they would that's your delay

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etymology is it originated in baseball in the

20:13

1800s? Spectators

20:15

who attended games that were postponed or canceled because

20:18

of weather would receive a rain check to

20:21

attend a future game at no Put

20:23

it on the pole at lebitar show Did you know

20:25

that the origins of rain check went back

20:27

to the 1800s and baseball?

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I do want to better understand

20:32

those students What is happening

20:34

though with a cigarette habit that

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you have said various times that you intend

20:38

to quit once you're at the 807 a.m. Portion

20:41

of the cigarette that's not quitting.

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Well, I try to get them in in the morning

20:45

and really before noon I know it's a

20:48

weird weird strategy for smoking

20:50

But when I get home kids are there the

20:52

wife is around really this is my

20:54

dirty little secret day That

20:56

you keep exposing on the air

20:58

every single day I'd

20:59

rather we not talk about it anymore,

21:02

but if you must I am explaining I try

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to get at least 20 in before

21:08

noon How many

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in the car Stu gots none in the car never?

21:15

Is that he doesn't have a car he doesn't

21:17

have a rental car right now It's four hundred and

21:19

fifty dollars if I smoke in that thing ain't doing

21:21

it. Okay, I believe what's at work

21:23

here is literally at work Here

21:26

he doesn't want his family to have any evidence

21:28

that he's doing this if he does

21:29

it in the car They looked at his fingers

21:33

They don't look at my fingers Mike looks like you just

21:35

played with pine tar I know but who's really

21:37

looking at someone else's fingers and by the way, that's

21:40

the excuse I go with when they ask

21:42

Batting practice

21:51

Nastiest knuckle curve because

21:53

of what's on his finger I've

21:56

evolved for some reason like your zip Dan.

21:58

That's what happens to the fingers when you throw a little extra

21:59

You got that zap on your knuckle curve. You've got

22:02

that zap, your grinky knuckle curve.

22:04

Thank you. To be fair, Stugat's hats

22:06

are all super gross. So I would believe it if he

22:08

just like, just keep touching your hats, Stugat's. Yeah.

22:11

There you go. Pine tar. Just to be

22:14

clear, your excuse to

22:16

cover up that you're smoking heaters at

22:18

work is not that you're using pine tar

22:21

for batting practice to hit. It's

22:24

to

22:24

snap off curve balls because you're

22:26

throwing batting practice to someone else.

22:28

Yeah. Not rosin. Rozin,

22:31

which you're using pine tar. You're

22:33

using pine tar to throw Uncle Charlie

22:36

curve balls. Bone dogs. With

22:38

a little extra zip, I mean. Uncle

22:40

Charlie. Does your family

22:42

not know anything about baseball,

22:45

pine tar? Do they believe your lies

22:47

that are so flimsy and bad that

22:49

they have you throwing 50-year-old curve

22:52

ball batting practice to whom, Stugat's?

22:55

Not even going to a batting cage to swing

22:58

a bat, what you could do by yourself. Now you're

23:00

getting together a team of people

23:02

for your breaking balls. I

23:04

guarantee you, if we take him to a mound, he's got

23:06

Cliff Lee's control. I

23:11

don't think they use pine tar in any

23:13

way to throw baseballs. I

23:16

do. I can't speak to other pitchers, you

23:18

know. But I'm one of the all-time greats,

23:21

and I can snap a curve of the best of them

23:23

with lefty, with confax, with anyone.

23:26

I use pine tar. Just

23:28

between us. To

23:30

a couple more barrel lights. Spin

23:33

the wheel again, please. Let's see

23:35

if it lands on world's dirtiest

23:37

man. Or Jack Grealish.

23:41

Mike, what did it land on there?

23:43

Jack Grealish. Wow.

23:45

I was hoping for world's dirtiest man.

23:49

See if I see what else Cody had in the tank

23:51

from a death eight months ago. So

23:53

Jack Grealish is a sore midfielder,

23:56

attacking player for Manchester

23:58

City. Jack Grealish.

23:59

was a legendary partier. He is known

24:02

for this. In fact, there has long since

24:04

been a Twitter account dedicated

24:06

to his drinking prowess. He's

24:08

finally won the Champions League,

24:10

a trophy that has escaped Manchester City

24:12

for several years. He was in his full

24:14

kit

24:15

till 5 a.m. the next morning.

24:17

He is on a legendary bender. There

24:19

are photos of him having

24:21

to be wheel-chaired out of a hotel

24:23

in Ibiza because they had to fly

24:26

to Ibiza for 12 hours

24:28

in between the parade in Manchester and

24:30

the game in Istanbul. This

24:33

guy, who has had naked

24:35

photos circulate the internet, he

24:38

is one of, I believe Jamie Tartt has

24:40

been influenced by the character

24:42

on Ted Lasso, has been influenced by Jack Riehlich.

24:45

If you're watching right now on YouTube or the DraftKings

24:47

Network, he is wearing a traffic vest

24:50

from a construction worker. He is enjoying

24:52

a championship almost as much

24:54

as Paul Pierce, who enjoyed his one

24:56

championship to this very day.

24:59

He just hasn't stopped. He's enjoying

25:01

a championship the opposite of

25:03

the way that Jokic is enjoying

25:05

the championship. He

25:08

is partying and please explain

25:10

to me because I don't know the

25:12

politics of Manchester City.

25:16

This is a celebration that he is enjoying

25:18

with whom? About 13 fans,

25:20

about 13 strong, more people

25:23

on the double-decker buses. Manchester City doesn't

25:25

have this huge fan base. Most

25:27

of Manchester follows Manchester

25:29

United. And Manchester City got really

25:31

good

25:32

once the chic took over and

25:34

they started spending all this money and

25:36

they've been good for about 15 years now, but

25:39

that's the trophy that's been eluding them. And

25:41

they finally got it. And Jack Riehlich

25:44

is going to party like he's never getting it again.

25:46

Again, I will point out. He IG-soried

25:49

a video of his friend in their hotel room

25:51

and his friend was falling asleep on his feet.

25:54

Yeah. That's more understandable,

25:57

is it not, than what Jokic is doing. Jokic

26:00

is the exception to the rule. We've

26:02

never seen someone Celebrate

26:05

quite the way that you're so unhappy to win

26:07

something. It's not to call it a celebration

26:09

is an insult to celebration It's more

26:11

of a relief They got to win

26:14

one more or it doesn't count. Well Jimmy's probably

26:16

still saying we're gonna come back from 4-1. Yeah I

26:19

still believe him Yeah, for

26:21

his sake. I hope that ankle is in pieces

26:24

That was bad luck, dude Bad

26:27

luck you hope that anchor is He's

26:32

short-circuit he was bad the expectations

26:34

changed so fast like you were

26:36

rooting for tanking Just a couple months

26:38

ago and now you're like Jimmy should be ashamed.

26:40

They won the Eastern Conference are not good He actually

26:43

wasn't bad. He was just Jimmy Butler. There's

26:45

a

26:45

bad team won the East I

26:47

think that's what needs to be celebrated almost as

26:49

much as yokich is a bad team Beat

26:52

the two best teams in the league or in

26:54

route or at least in their conference in route

26:56

to an NBA final Why aren't you celebrating

26:59

right? I should be you are you keep complaining

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28:36

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28:40

One of my favorite parts of

28:42

our show being

28:44

just totally contaminated

28:47

by sports and alleged sports

28:49

show getting caught up in the

28:51

last six to eight weeks of

28:53

eight seeds. Hooray eight seeds

28:56

teams that aren't good kind of surprising

28:58

people and then inevitably at

29:00

the end because eight seeds never win.

29:04

But in the middle of that

29:06

as we care deeply deeply

29:08

enough to have our show in our lives ruined

29:10

by the last eight weeks. Not

29:13

only is it that Yokich is

29:15

fundamentally indifferent right before

29:17

the game Spoe

29:19

is asked in general

29:21

about all of the predictions

29:23

going against him and his quote

29:25

as it's been many times is I don't give a

29:27

shit

29:28

and also coming out right

29:31

before the game is Jimmy saying yeah

29:33

if they invite me to the Hall of Fame I don't care

29:35

I don't want to really be a part of all

29:37

of that just a profound indifference

29:40

around the caring from the people in

29:42

the center of the caring copycat

29:44

League they see Yokich is a reaction

29:47

and they know what needs to be done to climb that mountain

29:49

top. Yeah, they cared too much. They

29:52

cared so much and they were totally dismantled

29:55

by a guy who's excellent but wants

29:57

to go home to be with

29:58

his horses. And I would

30:01

have really enjoyed watching Milwaukee try

30:03

to dismantle that. Because

30:05

my guess is it would have been a lot more of a series.

30:08

You mentioned earlier in the show that we've moved

30:11

on from a Steph LeBron

30:14

Durant league into

30:16

what is a real changing of the guard. It's an interesting

30:18

time in the NBA when you look at all

30:21

these teams, and I know Mike Malone already had,

30:23

Michael Malone already had comments on what's

30:25

next is a dynasty. So we have to respect the

30:27

Mike Michael thing now that he's a champion. I've

30:30

always respected him. Only because he's a champion.

30:32

Yeah, but Giannis

30:35

versus Jokic in an NBA finals

30:37

would be really compelling just because

30:40

of this is, you often

30:42

say to the point that it's become cliche and overused,

30:44

the evolution of the sport. That's not the

30:47

evolution of the sport. That just

30:49

might be evolution.

30:51

Of athleticism? No, no, of

30:53

humans, human beings. Human kind.

30:56

Yeah. I mean, you've got larger

30:58

people than ever able to do things

31:00

that used to be things only done

31:03

by shorter, quicker people. Well,

31:05

it's a, and I know Jokic has given plenty of comments

31:08

on this and it started with Dirk

31:10

about like, wow, your game is so

31:12

fundamentally nice and

31:14

fine-tuned in your score. For

31:16

someone who's 6'11". For someone that's

31:19

fake. For anyone who's ever played basketball.

31:21

Because here in the United States, when you're that big, they camp

31:23

you out in the middle and you're not asked to do those things

31:25

because they have a perimeter player that's tasked

31:27

with doing those things. And they wouldn't even so

31:30

much as try to see if you had that in your locker over

31:32

here. You go in the post and you do big

31:34

man things. And it's no surprise.

31:36

People like Giannis and Luca and

31:39

Jokic, the European influence

31:41

is actually permeating

31:42

it. And I sincerely hope it changes

31:44

basketball in this country because they've

31:47

been doing this for a while now. The

31:49

highly skilled big men has been

31:51

a thing for over 20 years. And yet

31:54

America is still lacking in producing these types

31:56

of talents. The reason that Jay Bilas

31:59

said to me,

31:59

me the things that he said to me many

32:02

years ago where he was upset is because I

32:04

was asking him the difference in

32:06

the viewpoints of the American players

32:09

how we perceived player of the year Michael Beasley

32:11

versus how we looked at

32:14

player of the year Tyler Hansborough.

32:16

Psycho T. Jay Bilas

32:18

didn't want to answer the question about the differences

32:21

between because I was talking

32:23

about white blank, white black

32:25

when it came to what perceptions

32:27

were and Beasley has a very different game

32:30

than Tyler Hansborough but both of them were

32:32

players of the year the best player in college

32:34

basketball. He got upset

32:36

he said

32:37

be offended then when I say you can't say

32:39

to me

32:41

some version of no

32:43

offense but that's stupid when I asked

32:45

him about the differences and when

32:47

I said you can't say no offense his response

32:49

was then be offended

32:51

it's stupid but what Stan Van Gundy told

32:53

us back then was what you just said

32:56

which is in the American pipeline the

32:58

guy who is that size gets put in the post

33:00

and that's all he is for the rest of

33:03

his life he never grows into what Joellen

33:05

Bead is or what is

33:07

necessitated when the money goes out to the

33:09

three point line and the entire sport

33:11

goes out to the three point line and that's where the contracts

33:14

are. But don't you think that's changing now? Don't

33:16

you think that's changing with big men? Even

33:19

when you think of those highly skilled

33:22

big men that have played for the US

33:24

Tim Duncan US Virgin

33:26

Islands and Kim Elodron played for Dream Team

33:29

not born in this country and Bead developed

33:31

his game here in the states not from here

33:33

it's not something from the

33:36

AAU level through high school through college

33:38

through the pros that we've actually really seen we've

33:40

seen players in NBA history like Garnett,

33:43

Duncan guys that if maybe

33:45

they played in this time they could hang around

33:48

and they could be that three point threat I

33:50

don't think Duncan couldn't handle certainly

33:52

not the way that Jokic has hell I don't know if anyone

33:54

can for a player that size but

33:56

it's just something that is

33:58

for the moment different. Distinctly European

34:01

and now with the advent of social media and

34:03

with people being able to watch Coaching

34:06

in social media there was an archaic way

34:08

of them being okay You're gonna sit in a 2-3

34:10

Beyheim style right you're 7 foot 4

34:12

you're gonna sit in the in a 2-3 You're

34:15

gonna have your back to the basket now with a you

34:17

the evolution of social media You can watch people

34:19

and train yourself essentially from a young

34:21

kid You're you're practicing handling

34:23

you're practicing shooting and it's gonna change the game Mike

34:25

I'm just saying an American born

34:27

basketball big man coming up now. Don't you

34:30

think you didn't say no coach? Don't

34:31

throw me in the paint. I want to play outside.

34:33

I want to play in the perimeter Eventually, we're gonna see

34:35

how the coaches know that right now the coaches can

34:37

see We

34:39

should have already seen that player that was influenced

34:41

by Dirk like it has

34:44

it happened Who's it has an Andre Aiten imagine

34:46

him shooting three right like it hasn't happened Think

34:49

about the highly touted prospect that's entering

34:51

the league not American

34:53

But and he can do all these incredible things

34:55

out on the perimeter and he can handle for whatever

34:57

reason We just haven't gotten there yet, and

35:00

it's been like a generation has come

35:02

and gone

35:03

It doesn't take that long from a prospect. That's

35:05

an AAU to work his way through college

35:08

We're talking about a six-year cycle and

35:10

none of these highly touted prospects that were big men

35:13

have ever developed this skill for whatever reason This

35:15

is but let's let's examine that for a second because when

35:17

you say for whatever reason it's not

35:19

for whatever reason It's DeAndre Aiten gets

35:21

put in the post like that's DeAndre

35:24

Aiten's job is not to become the Bahamas No,

35:28

it's just like no one who's the American

35:30

who's the tall guy who's come through our pipeline?

35:33

Look

35:33

Lopez, uh,

35:34

and he's he's had a dead lead in this game and he's a Cuban

35:37

American Sorry,

35:39

who is the American David Lee? I think what

35:42

what changes Lee doesn't get to be it

35:44

What about it? We

35:47

saw with stop it. We saw with

35:49

Steph Curry Succeeding at a high level

35:52

and even a little bit with LeBron where if you were this

35:54

big-bodied muscular guy They try to put you on

35:56

the perimeter now everyone it

35:58

doesn't matter. I'll tell you are if I'm trying

35:59

I can actually make it to the league because I just

36:02

go further away from the defense Hopefully

36:04

with yokich who seems to be on the precipice

36:06

of at least dominating that conference for

36:08

the next few years More big men will

36:10

want to play like that.

36:12

It's not sexy though like the sugots

36:15

over here said It's just not a fun

36:17

way to watch somebody playing growing up here in the United

36:19

States for him No, it's

36:21

not it's not the style by himself. It's

36:23

not the style that American basketball players ever

36:26

want to play Is it Carl Anthony towns? Is

36:28

that the closest? Yeah? Yeah, probably.

36:30

Yeah, that's pretty good But he doesn't he he doesn't

36:32

do most of his damage on the inside He's like he wants to

36:34

be out on the perimeter and the playmaking aspect is no I

36:36

don't want to be the person making the assists. I want to be the person

36:38

chucking it up It's it's a beautiful style

36:41

of play It's it's a point card

36:42

at the five

36:43

and no one wants to do it in this country And I think

36:45

we're worse for it and maybe the tide will turn

36:48

the more success Yokich has the more marquee

36:50

games that he has because like you I've only seen

36:52

it for five games And I'm just my jaw drop

36:55

Kevin love to a certain aspect like

36:56

he was a guy that would that would draw

36:59

the defense out With no athleticism, but

37:01

Yokich doesn't have much right Jamal Crawford

37:04

said something you guys saw this and Eric

37:06

Spoltz Tread dismissed it as asinine,

37:08

but Jamal Crawford says he's got

37:10

such a Yokich has such a mastery over what

37:12

he's doing that he's not even playing against

37:14

the heat players. He's playing against

37:16

Spoh I understood what he was saying

37:19

which is he's just grabbing the ball in

37:21

the center of the paint He knows everything

37:23

that Spoh is going to throw at him. Whatever

37:25

is gonna be thrown. Nothing

37:26

will surprise him. He will make the smart play

37:29

How is it possible that? whether

37:32

it's when Bum Yama

37:35

whether it's Yannis There

37:38

are no people in

37:40

our country which claims

37:43

to have invented basketball Is this the result of

37:45

globalization that other countries

37:47

are better at the evolution of this with

37:50

the giant guy? Cuz if all the money is gonna go to

37:52

the three-point line and the perimeter of course What

37:55

is going to happen in the evolution of a

37:57

sport is the bigger guys are

37:59

gonna?

37:59

so get good at doing the things

38:02

that the smaller guys, basketball's always

38:04

been a big guy sport, so if you give the ball

38:06

to Jokic in the middle of the paint, he's going to do

38:08

things with the ball at seven feet

38:11

that Spoh doesn't have any answers for.

38:13

Meanwhile, Spoh probably has the best

38:16

American example for it, and it's an

38:18

undersized big, but a big nonetheless, and his

38:20

father was born in Nigeria, he's American, bam,

38:22

is probably that next evolution

38:25

in terms of guys that can initiate offense,

38:27

handle, create their own shot at

38:29

the five,

38:29

bam is,

38:31

I think the best American that I got, and

38:34

I know Amin had to run, I would have loved to have had this conversation

38:36

with him because much of the Phoenix Suns

38:38

front office was about finding

38:40

positionless guys, having guys like Boris Diao

38:44

play these

38:45

quote unquote big positions, but have these small

38:47

men games, and they would scout South America,

38:50

and they would scout Europe, and I really wish

38:52

that we would do more of that here in the United States,

38:54

because it's a really exciting, well-balanced way to

38:56

play. It's just not sexy for kids. Are you guys

38:58

saying the 6'6", the 6'8", wingman

39:01

is done? Like that no longer is gonna dominate

39:03

the NBA? I'm saying that's where we're put in the centers.

39:06

The 6'10 guy wants to be the wing guy. The

39:09

6'10 guy doesn't wanna be Jokic, who

39:12

can be on the wing, but also can break his

39:14

own from the middle,

39:15

can work inside out, and

39:18

he's unstoppable from the field.

39:20

Like he's just an unprecedented player, the

39:22

peak of Jokic, and I

39:24

say facetiously, but not really, I haven't watched

39:26

him all that much.

39:28

This was undeniably

39:30

at that position unguardable.

39:33

You have Bam, who is for

39:35

his position, arguably top three

39:38

in the game. A person that is uniquely qualified

39:40

with physical attributes and lateral side to side

39:42

movement to

39:44

try to

39:45

bother this player, and we saw

39:47

a player from the center position

39:49

lead his team in points, rebounds, and

39:51

assists. Not his team,

39:54

the playoffs. The playoffs,

39:56

it's never been done before. How did Joel and

39:58

B win the BAMV?

39:59

No, Mark Jackson

40:02

didn't make me laugh. I don't know if you heard his

40:04

comment at the end. He's like, well, I finally got my MVP

40:06

vote right. Yes, he was relieved. But

40:09

to your point, Mike, the

40:11

difference, I mean, this is an oversimplification,

40:14

obviously, but the difference between

40:16

the Heat and Denver, your starting point can

40:19

be that Bam is all those things

40:21

defensively, but he's not someone

40:23

who can shoot threes. And

40:26

you didn't even trust him in the mid-range. Especially

40:29

so much so that Denver allowed him to take

40:32

that shot. And Denver's got a guy who

40:34

is bigger, weighs more, and can do all

40:36

the things that you would like Bam to be able to do.

40:38

You plop Bam in any other timeline and

40:40

our mouth is left agape. But by direct

40:42

comparison, he looked bad.

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