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Oh my God. You've been working on that one.

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Huh?

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Practicing it for 10 days. Nailed it.

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After the show, Dan, he hit one of the biggest shots in college.

1:57

Basketball history had a solid NBA career.

2:02

Although if you ask him and sometimes even if you don't, he'll gladly tell you he was the best player on every team he ever played on.

2:13

And that includes teams that have LeBron James, Dwayne Wade, and Chris BOSH in their primes.

2:21

He retired, but never retired.

2:24

The thought that he's the best basketball player in the world.

2:27

And thanks to a worldwide pandemic that just won't leave us though.

2:33

He has another chance to prove us wrong and prove to us what he's known all along.

2:40

Dan, I cannot believe I'm saying this crazy, but make no mistake about it.

2:46

Mario

2:48

Chalmers is back Rio.

2:52

Speaking of back, Bob stoops and Andy Dalton.

2:56

That was funny. The red rifle. I have a Bob stoops running in there for Oklahoma, but it is Funny.

3:04

Right? Did a good job funding Finally

3:08

won a bowl game. Did you see, did you guys see that this year?

3:12

I don't know if you saw some of these stats, but like 27% of the underdogs, a one and 50 on ranked teams.

3:19

Beat ranked. Yeah.

3:21

This is just crazy. Distortion of a stupid season.

3:26

Clemson was ranked 19th and their ball game comes in store this year.

3:32

It's a big cover for me.

3:34

Cincinnati bear cats.

3:35

Blah-blah-blah Luke fickle, blah, blah, blah, Georgia do it against Alabama.

3:44

Dan, stop trying to bait me and Mike into a double or nothing bad.

3:47

It's not happening. I bought Mike's hair.

3:50

I thought we made it. Now. We did not.

3:52

And shaves his head to oh, that's right.

3:55

Yeah. Yeah. Well, what happened?

3:57

I thought, well wait, no, you said no, just tricked.

4:00

You just said stop Beating me.

4:02

And then all of a sudden you want to start negotiating Immediately.

4:05

We said I'd be willing to go double or nothing.

4:08

Although I think I like Georgia this time or if Dan, if I win and we're even right, what happened?

4:17

Shave Your head. If Mike loses you, shave your head.

4:20

Mike Ryan does. As Dan, you shave your head.

4:23

You want a piece of that action And to stop baiting me in the double or nothing.

4:26

And now you start negotiating.

4:29

Do you want to enter negotiations into double or nothing or not?

4:33

Yes or no. Are you going to be involved?

4:37

We'll see Kirby smart, terrible hair.

4:42

Jan Reeves rate, coach sneaky good-looking and one tough son of a bitch.

4:48

You punched in Reeves in the face.

4:51

Expect two things, a smile and a punch 10 times harder and return.

4:57

What are you laughing about there, Chris? This is a random Thing.

5:00

He's a tough guy, man. How do you know him so well, I do.

5:03

I know.

5:05

Rest In peace. Why do you know that?

5:07

Why'd why do you, Dan Reeves is one of the, I think he's got a military background.

5:11

He's got a shin. He is a tough guy.

5:14

Dan, you punch him in the face. You don't expect two things, a smile and a punch back On

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the pole. Please gear at LeBron tug show.

5:21

If you have a military background and a chin, can we assume that you're a tough guy can be punched in the face and you will smile and punches back 10 times The

5:33

toughest coaches in sports history.

5:36

Number five, Forrest Gregg.

5:42

I have no idea if he was tough, but he looked off at a forest And

5:47

is just descending into bump wills and Forrest Gregg.

5:52

This is number three, right? All right.

5:54

Edit Dan Reeves. I'm on that now again, I have no idea if bum Phillips was a tough guy or not, but his name is bomb and he wore a gallon hat.

6:02

I mean, I didn't say bum Phillips.

6:05

I'm still marveling at your baseball card.

6:07

Bump will reference earlier.

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Mistake guard. Number two, Mike Dick.

6:15

And number one, Dan, this goes without saying everyone knows it.

6:19

Mick Cronin, Mike

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Tomlin on your list. Ah.

6:25

Oh. Oh, we should be in there.

6:27

I love it. An older man calls me kid.

6:30

The you it's so great. Like an old guy.

6:33

Hey kid. Hey, I love it.

6:37

Put it on. Put it on the poll please.

6:39

Gamma. You love when an older man calls you kid, it sounds like it's delightful.

6:46

Yeah, it sounds great for everybody involved.

6:49

You know what? The K and Cooper cup stands for Dan?

6:52

I do not can't and Josh Johnson is a Raven.

6:56

If you thought flying on or around Christmas Eve was a good idea.

7:01

Guess what it wasn't.

7:03

And you're a moron too.

7:06

Harsh. Jake Fromm. Did you Fly? Is that what happened?

7:08

I Did not fly, but I just, I mean, the number of people complaining about their flights being delayed or canceled what'd you expect?

7:14

I mean, seriously, it was a worldwide pandemic going on.

7:18

And what did people expect? And it's Christmas To

7:21

see their family for the holidays. What are you having to go?

7:26

Okay. Like I'm all for you trying to see your family, but if you're gonna book a flight around that time, there's a good chance.

7:31

It's going to be canceled pandemic or no pandemic, to be honest.

7:35

It's good. That that's the time you chose to be on it.

7:40

Thought What a, what branch of the military did Dan Reeves serve?

7:43

That's it? I was hoping no one was going to fact check me on that one.

7:47

Did anyone do it?

7:50

No military background, but he has a chin weird, crazy.

7:53

He has a chin, but I mean, that can be said for almost anyone and some of us have too Death

8:04

taxes and Cameron break wide open in the end.

8:08

So I don't understand it.

8:10

Is it because you have to cover everyone else?

8:12

Is it because the secondary yelling Grodd Cronk and 10 guys are hanging from his ear low?

8:18

I don't think he's got it in the military.

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Burial.

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What

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do

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you

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think

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Dan

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Reeves

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is? Roger stall back Starbuck

8:26

was in the Navy. I thought Reeves had some sort of Marines background, like something his dad maybe, And

8:32

Reeves was a Marine.

8:34

His dad maybe has now made an appearance.

8:37

It's still got strikes to military Batman, slim.

8:40

Dan Reeves. His age typically had a father that served in the military.

8:45

Wasn't always their choice.

8:50

That would make it a military background though, right?

8:54

No, I don't know if you wrote, Comes from a military family.

8:58

Mike, I'm not certain you're right there. Like I think if you're, if one of your parents served in the military, you are, you have a military background.

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I love, I lived with my grandfather for several years.

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He was a Navy man. Do I have a military background?

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I do not. Thank you for your service.

9:13

What you're not noticing here, Mike is that simply stew gods.

9:16

Now that you're looking up, whether Dan Reeves is in the military now, now he's sending you on a wild goose chase to see if Dan Reeves his dad was in the military.

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So he could be less wrong than he just was.

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Just buying time.

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Grandfather, anybody Dan Reeves ever know anyone.

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Did he ever visit anyone at an academy of any sort that had a military undertone?

9:41

Let's do God's this is an easy one. Did he have USA insurance, right?

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I'm not certain, but it's a good point.

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Like my father was in the military, Mike and I can get USA if I want.

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Now I wasn't in the military, but I have a military background.

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I have a military Background. That's it?

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I think that's insulting.

10:01

It is done. It is insulting to the military that you think you have a military background.

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I Thought I did. He was born to Irish immigrants.

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Right? Which can also be tough. But again, not a military background.

10:19

You'll get to it. Mike, keep digging.

10:22

Call Beasley. That's a different Dan raves. I'm sorry.

10:27

Unfortunate. Also not a military background for this.

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So perhaps you were looking up the wrong one the entire time.

10:35

No Dan Reeves with the big grandpa glasses.

10:38

Yeah. Yeah. Don't see him being a Marine Cole

10:44

Beasley. You realize that all you've done with your tough guy, coaches is when you were a kid, an old white guy who was in charge his army.

10:52

Come on. That's all you did. Like you were just a kid and all you did was go through.

10:57

You just went through cars, represented football to you back when you were a kid, that's all you did.

11:04

And there were no black head coaches back then.

11:06

So they all had to be white guys. You were afraid because Mike Singletary

11:09

is tougher than any of these guys.

11:12

Right? They did not smile and punch him many times.

11:15

And Yeah, he was, he's got a military.

11:18

Exactly right. It's shit. Because his dad was in the military.

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He was a Dan Reeves once spoke to a military academy.

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Boom, boom, boom.

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There it is in your face, right again.

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Boom. Dan Reeves once walked past the military academy, Cole

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Beasley complaining about the NFL's COVID policy while not being vaccinated.

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Call this do God's is strong in you.

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Hey Cole, here's an idea.

11:54

Instead of complaining, stick a needle in your arm, Dan, you know what the sea and Cole Beasley stands for.

12:01

I do not complainer how'd you not know that one.

12:04

I'm sorry. How much has he been filing is going to be, COVID a hundred that would have been funnier a hundred, a hundred thousand dollars.

12:10

Is that how much he's been fine and just a variety of things because he doesn't want to be vaccinated.

12:17

Yup. The Vikings or a quarterback away.

12:20

Sometimes David Collie, coach of the year, Brandon Staley blah-blah-blah we were off for so long.

12:27

Dan, some of these are from last weekend. What do you mean?

12:30

Blah, blah, blah. It was two weekends ago.

12:32

Two games ago. Cross that out. Now he's playing for a game to make the playoffs Staley

12:37

yesterday kicked on fourth and goal from the one I was furious with Brandon Staley live this life or don't man.

12:45

He is it. He is so right. You know what?

12:47

The B and Brandon Staley stands for Dan?

12:49

I do not blah, But

12:51

he won yesterday And he's back.

12:54

Okay. He's back. Any reason you didn't update those notes, You're

12:58

still got 76 and half otherwise known as heaven for Vic Fangio bangs.

13:06

What was the Score? That was last Weekend.

13:09

Okay. Cause this weekend it was 17 to three close to heaven.

13:15

He kicked a 61 yard field. Gold fangs.

13:17

Dan was like so happy.

13:19

I thought he was going to retire on the spot.

13:22

There was nothing more helpless. And I know I speak for the dolphin fans that were watching this and having your playoff hopes and dreams tied to drew lock.

13:31

You just know shot Doing

13:34

running a fourth and goal Philly special with a play ends and throwing Drew

13:39

luck. They should've fired Fangio on the spot.

13:42

There is, that's a play that needs to be eliminated from the playbook fire to that fired to it.

13:49

Wipe your ass with that, play from the playbook Fangio and then set fire to it.

13:53

Fang said he deserves another year. I mean, Winning

13:57

him is so right. You cannot have a play in your playbook at the goal line.

14:01

Let me throw it back to drew lock on fourth, down from across the field to see if I can get a yard on a double reverse.

14:12

That's when fangs decides to be crazy married Bridgewater for so long, 18 plays, 60 yards kick a field goal that that's when he sides with Y Deserves

14:23

another year, he kind of does. I mean, they be competitive, you know?

14:27

And just about every game, Jimmy Garappolo as he UCL a UCL thumb, tear and fracture.

14:34

Thank God. His face is okay.

14:36

By the way, Dan did, you know, thumbs had ligaments.

14:41

I didn't.

14:43

Why? What did you think? They were just blobs of Just

14:46

whatever Skin and Bone.

14:49

Yep. No idea. There were ligaments in there.

14:51

Okay. The UCL.

14:53

And I know that that was the name of the ligament.

14:55

I would have assumed that a thumb had ligaments Well

14:59

smarter than I am. Joe Mixon, Joe burrow, Jamar, chase ed, just like that.

15:06

The bangles are fixed when they announced hockey was starting again.

15:11

It's the first time I realized hockey had stopped.

15:14

Dan, you know what the M a John Madden stands for?

15:20

I do not. It stands for football Dan, which leads me to my all time.

15:25

All Matt and team.

15:28

You've got an all time, all Madden team right now.

15:31

Yup. Some of his favorites. Okay. It's my all time.

15:34

All mad and team that I made, but I did it as John Madden.

15:40

Okay. Like I was thinking, this is who Madam would want.

15:43

Okay. Ready? Does he have his Own on this front?

15:45

Does He have, well, he has one every year. I'm not certain.

15:47

He has an all time team. This is his all time team.

15:50

According to you. Yes.

15:51

Quarterback Brett Farve, backup quarterback, Brett Farve, running backs.

16:02

Walter Payton sweetness, Barry Sanders at John Riggins, Sean Regan.

16:13

He loved Riggins. I think Reagan's made five.

16:15

All Madden teams of that.

16:18

Look it up. Wide receivers.

16:21

Jerry Rice, Randy Moss.

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And his favorite film.

16:28

McConkie

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military

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background,

16:34

Phil. Second up all line.

16:36

Joe Jacoby, Russ Grimm.

16:41

Nate Newton, Jimbo covert jumbo.

16:48

Elliot's Bruce Matthews.

16:51

In any moment. The last name Matthews, all the Matthews,

16:54

the entire Matthew's family.

16:56

Almost done.

16:57

D-line Richard dent.

17:01

Jack Youngblood.

17:04

How we long Jim Bert's Steve McMichael.

17:10

Reggie whites at Bruce Smith.

17:16

I have linebackers next Lawrence Taylor, Jim Hacksaw Reynolds.

17:23

Young blood was a young blood, was a defensive lineman.

17:26

Played with a broken arm. I believe I thought he was a linebacker.

17:28

Wilber, Marshall pepper Johnson.

17:34

He loved those giants. They

17:36

weren't a Championship

17:37

running the ball Course

17:40

winning 20 to 17 DBS.

17:42

Mike Gaines, Lester Hayes.

17:45

Ronnie Lotts. Gary Fensick Deion Sanders.

17:51

No, no, no, no kicker.

17:53

Kevin Butler and mark Moseley Punter.

18:00

Sean land data is rosters Carrying

18:02

two kickers. Yeah. You need two kickers.

18:05

I mean, mostly one of them to be paid, but he really liked Kevin Butler because Butler kicked in the wind.

18:15

I love that. You took that seriously.

18:18

He really loved Butler Butler kicked in the wind, which is everybody.

18:24

Yeah. But the windy city, he was the bears.

18:25

Kicker, you know, soldier field by the lake.

18:28

You know what I'm saying? Part of their, yeah.

18:31

Thank you, Billy. For your first contribution in 74 minutes, If

18:39

the three point line didn't exist, DeMar DeRozen would be the best basketball player in the world.

18:46

I might have. I bought him this weekend.

18:49

What a great feeling for 24 hours to put the bulls is the one seat in the east because you keep hitting down.

18:55

Not, not, not tied down.

18:57

You keep hitting game winners. Two of them in 24 hours as Joel Embiid is one for 18 in game tying situations.

19:05

Last five seconds and overtime.

19:07

And the only one who's worse is Kemble Walker.

19:09

Over 25.

19:12

Rudy gay plays for the jazz.

19:14

Reg Monro is a T Wolf incredible.

19:18

The Titans of the closest thing in the NFL to Derrick Henry backing up Derek Henry chief's Bengals literal Trackmate Bengals, blah, blah, blah.

19:30

Oh, it was 14. Nothing. I regret that one.

19:32

I do.

19:34

Why didn't you update it? I don't Know.

19:37

Somehow some way Braxton Barrios will wind up in new England and eventually in Canton, Dan, maybe urban Meyer was right when he said everyone on his coaching staff was a loser.

19:53

Holy crap. It happened again. This weekend Zeff taxes and Cameron break.

19:59

Why? Hope it in the end. So that was, That

20:01

was an old Cameron break.

20:05

Is there any reason you didn't tell the people that this was going to include two weekends of material?

20:10

That's what myself Jomar char chase and Justin Jefferson played together in college.

20:16

You know what the J and J Maher, Justin and Jefferson stands for Dan.

20:20

I do not. It stands for Jesus.

20:23

Holding the chiefs or Bengals to a field goal feels like a win for the other team.

20:28

Jimmy Garappolo clipboard collusion course.

20:31

It was nice for a change that the most embarrassing thing going on and Verizon stadium on Sunday, wasn't the jets playing football, Philadelphia Eagles sneaky good.

20:43

Jalen hurts winner FedEx field dump.

20:49

Meanwhile, speaking of winners, Tom Brady, thirty four, fifty four hundred and ten yards, three touchdowns.

20:57

He has 4,990 yards, 40 touchdowns, 12 interceptions on the season and his team is 12 and four.

21:06

He also let Antonio brown live in his house, but the hell speaking to hell or Briles Dan, those are the weekend observations.

21:17

I'm I'll put it on the pole, please. Did you know that Greg Monroe was still a, what was a timber Wolf?

21:23

Did you know he was a T Wolf?

21:26

I, I, I do think it is amazing.

21:29

I do think those two gods, I, I, for a moment I would just like to pause.

21:34

I know it's the most common thing in the world, but it is very rare that you get to be in the middle of something sports related that you are watching.

21:47

That is not only a greatness without precedent, but a greatness that you're going to have difficulty explaining to your kids when fifties and sixties channels of today or a race.

22:02

And you're trying to tell people how great Tom Brady was.

22:05

The idea that he made that look that easy.

22:10

Yeah. At 44 years old where the jets are winning all game, the jets have them beat.

22:18

And Robert Salah did the thing fourth and short.

22:21

Let me just keep this game out of Tom Brady's hand.

22:23

Let me just get one yard and finish the game.

22:26

Cause I don't want to kick a field goal. And then let Tom Brady have two minutes to tie the game Two

22:32

yards. Just so we're clear and you're right. Like he had a chance to at least ensure himself like overtime.

22:37

That was, there was a worst case scenario at Salud.

22:39

Wanted nothing to do with it, deal with it. Why?

22:41

Because he knew the game would go to overtime.

22:43

That's why. And then he would've lost a Brady in overtime.

22:46

How easy he made that look without Antonio brown, just right down the fields to gods Tampa was down 24, 10 and had a fourth and short on the jets goal line.

22:59

At the end of the third quarter, you could have won the game right there by making a stop.

23:04

The idea that in 2022, we are still talking about Tom Brady, being able to do something length of the field that you only expect basically from a homes and Rogers.

23:19

Correct. And not the way you expect it from him, but where you expect it.

23:23

You're like, dude, how many quarterbacks in the league?

23:25

Tell me this, answer me this question.

23:28

As we're watching Tom Brady do it at 44 and go into the playoffs with four losses.

23:33

Again, how many quarterbacks in the league are you watching and saying, don't leave him that much time.

23:39

Do not leave him time.

23:44

Three, my home's baby Lamar Jackson, and maybe staff, Derek Carr, maybe Russell Wilson.

23:54

I do. You know how absurd it is. I know we talk about it every week, but do you know how absurd it was is as Ben Roethlisberger plays.

24:00

His last game spent six years earlier than Brady is this cam Newton flames out at 32 or 33.

24:07

Do you know how ridiculous it is? And I understand the league has changed the rules to protect people like him.

24:12

The quarterbacks are playing a different game than everyone else.

24:15

I saw roughing the passer call. I think in the Jacksonville yesterday game, it was just totally absurd.

24:20

Like you can't allow defensive lineman. It would be no fun to be a defensive lineman playing the game.

24:25

This way, the amount of effort it takes to get to the quarterback.

24:28

And then the stupid thing that they will call in order to play the rules.

24:31

Have the rules be different for quarterbacks than everyone else.

24:33

That's a rule made because Tom Brady got injured.

24:35

It was I'm play 93 yard drive.

24:38

He needed a touchdown. He got a touchdown.

24:40

He had one timeout, I think at the two minute warning easy.

24:43

And you never had a doubt that he was going to do it.

24:45

That's It looks so easy.

24:47

Just went right down the field with precise throws, to not Godwin Kent, not available, not, not Antonio brown, Some

24:58

guy named Grayson Right

25:00

down the field. Number 18 number right down the field on, on the jets playing, you know, jets defense.

25:07

That's not terrible. It's their offense. It's terrible.

25:09

That defense isn't terrible.

25:11

I just, And he went to Grayson someone named Johnson and the final play was to levy on bell like 44.

25:22

It really is fascinating to watch that you will not be able to explain to anybody, no matter how many men in the arenas they do, what you S what you lived through, what you saw a quarterback age differently than any ever has in the history of the sport and his team at the end of another season of just crazy two seasons of just crazy, all around football.

25:50

He's the one guy never gets hurt.

25:52

Everyone else gets hurt. He's the guy who's playing every damn game at 44 years old.

25:58

And he's still the guy that you fear at the end of games.

26:00

I just, this is living the Michael Jordan years, but you never watch him become the wizards.

26:06

Your watching history's greatest sports winner at 44 years old, six years after Jordan was competitive.

26:16

Two guys, LeBron just turned 37.

26:18

That's a Marvel of science and body that at 37 years old, but he's playing great, but they they're no good like that.

26:26

That team is not that team's not any good.

26:29

And his greatness is only enough to make them a wheezing 500 Grayson

26:35

had four of his career, 10 receptions on that final drug.

26:41

It is it's funny. Is it not like I don't, I suppose at some point I should just stop talking about it, right?

26:49

Like It's I mean, how can you, we've never seen this before.

26:53

You can And stop talking about it. If his team is so relevant, right?

26:55

As long as he's playing at a high level and his teams are alive late in the year, you got to keep talking about them.

27:01

He's got a strong the Lambo again, right?

27:03

It's going to be bucks and Packers NFC championship game.

27:06

It's my, my question is this.

27:09

Look at the celebration.

27:10

Borough took part in yesterday because he did it once there.

27:17

Weren't looking at the league yesterday. How many quarterbacks did that at the end did that?

27:22

They're losing the game is lost.

27:24

You should lose the game. You have not played as well as the jets have plate.

27:28

Derek Did it. He's really good at it.

27:30

Derek Derek. Car's a good quarterback.

27:33

Derek Carr did it tied at 20 Derek Carr did not do that.

27:40

Tom Brady did nine plays, 90 yards, two minutes, one time out.

27:44

You knew he was going to do it 44 years old.

27:46

He's the only quarterback in the league who did that?

27:49

Burrow wins the division, cigars dancing because at the end of the game, he held the football and he beat my homes.

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But I honestly, you do not get to see things in sports become regular that are, this kind of unprecedented become normal.

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That you're still watching. I'm trying to find age comparisons for this human being anywhere across humanity.

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I'm trying to find someone who can dominate a young man's game.

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Cam Newton has done a decade earlier.

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She gots I understand is playing a different sport.

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Physically. Ben Roethlisberger is toast.

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You're going to watch him tonight. Say farewell, Tom Brady, still on top of it all time at anything a Sunday when his receiver quits and what I

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mean, he's the MVP. It's Just

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nuts. It's just totally nuts. Like I don't think that I don't think Pete Sampras was like, this.

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Federer is like this, this droning excellence.

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That just becomes something so overwhelming that it can't be argued.

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It can't be pierced. You could just say, Hey, I don't like him.

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You can say, I don't. I'm tired of him winning, but this is realms behind realms beyond even what Saban did in the middle of the arena in a young man's game, violent game where everybody gets hurt.

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This dude at 44 years old is still dominating the end of a witching hour.

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By going down the field like you knew we would have five Years

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older than Ben Roethlisberger.

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I mean far, I've had a great season at 41, right?

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41. I mean quarterbacks historically. It's why people make fun of me and max Kellerman about this because you w it was a safe bet for max Kellerman to say eight years ago.

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This is when the slides stop starts every quarterback throughout history age, that way paint many.

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We've got another man in cast tonight. The Billy's all excited about Billy, the man and cats.

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I love the man and cash comes in and out.

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They just sort of take vacation during the season.

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And I'm with Billy on this. Steve levy is done doing those men and cash promos because he is, he is, he is bull Horning.

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Don . Hey, Dave still got what up VCs didn't live at our show with this two guides.

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Wow.

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Wow. What's the guest list like tonight for Manning making Ben Rockolas burgers last game here, a lot, a lot more interesting tonight on ESPN two, I

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believe tonight is the final Manning cast of the season and they are hitting us with the big guns.

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Dan commissioner, Roger Goodell will be there.

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Snoop dog will be there.

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Aaron Rogers will be there.

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It's a who's who it's a who's who?

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And I think that Steve levy doesn't like that he has to do the reads for them because I was seeing a commercial in sports center where he was telling everyone to check out Monday night football.

32:06

I was like, and also you can tune into the Manning Cass on ESPN two, which would have you tuning out of Steve levy, obviously, and bill cower in the first quarter, but bill cower in the first quarter.

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I mean, that's just kind of like the appetizer, you know what I mean?

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Like bill cower in the first quarter is what you hand out in a wedding reception before you actually go in.

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It's like the order of that, you're like, okay, I'm a little hungry.

32:29

I'll have this just a little, you know, to be God little, little bites here and there to fill my tummy a little bit until I get to the main course.

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That's what bill cower is in the first quarter. We can agree on that Chin.

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Absolutely. I go yeah, yeah.

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Yes. And the second quarter is, is the third quarter Goodell.

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And then fourth quarter Aaron Rogers. They're going to watch the fourth quarter with Aaron Rogers.

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They're going to ask a quarter, has to be Snoop. It has to, they Got

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to talk to her quarter Snoop.

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So Aaron Rogers, fourth quarter of Ben's last game.

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Are they going to ask him COVID questions? Yes or no?

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I think they'll make a little joke about it. Like, oh, w anything going on with you lately, Aaron, like, you know, one of those things or like they ask them about it without asking them about, You

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know, Eli's the guy that tries that I would say Eli is going to be the one that tries to sneak one by Aaron, Aaron

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recently

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I am pre cringing right now, thinking of this interaction tonight.

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I'm so excited to not watch it and then see what happens tomorrow On

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the subject of COVID you got won't get here.

33:31

Aaron Rogers goes on McAfee.

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McAfee is his friend. McCabe's not going to ask him a whole lot of difficult questions I would assume.

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And he's going to say, as McAfee did that, I respect everybody's opinions, but there's no way this is another safe space, right?

33:46

For both, for both Rogers and Condell, correct?

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Goodell's not going to get any tough questions either.

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Is he there? That's not going to happen.

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Right? You would answer them mean on the promotional picture for his appearance.

33:58

He's listed as commissioner Goodell instead of Roger Goodell.

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And I just that's just That's

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how Stu gods would do it. It's to God's word legally change his first name to commissioner.

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He would have it on it. Birthday cakes, put it on, put it on the pole.

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Please give him at 11 tonight. Show does Roger Goodell's family wish happy birthday on the cakes to commissioner Goodell instead of dad or Roger?

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Me as Commissioner.

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I feel like these types of interviews, there's always one, like pre-approved semi-hard question that he's like prepared an answer for.

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So the audience is like, oh, okay, they're going to ask him some tough ones.

34:38

And then the rest is just all fluff.

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Like what do you think that like the pre-approved like medium difficult questions going to be to start this thing off.

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Cause you know, there's going to be one.

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Talk to us About how the COVID protocols have evolved over time.

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You've been working together with the players association to get players back on the field.

34:56

Roger, how have you negotiated with the players association?

34:59

They got to ask about Antonio brown though.

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Oh yeah. You guys can Add

35:03

Tonio yesterday.

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Commish Eli's going to trip into a controversial question that wasn't approved and he's going to get some, he's getting an email from Rogers people.

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Well, let me ask you guys this Dan Snyder

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questions,

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Washington I reported that day in center was intimidating potential witnesses to workplace behavior that might've caused you a bit of a headache and just hours later, you said, nah, nothing's going on there.

35:34

Do you care to respond?

35:37

I'd like to ask you guys this question. This is something I wanted to explore with Billy Corbin and sports documentaries, because I've noticed what Showtime is doing and they're getting access to athletes and they're doing documentaries with athletes, but they tend to be pretty sugary things.

35:54

HBO max had executive producers, Serena and Venus Williams on an afterschool special with will Smith.

36:01

And the more you let the athletes control the content, the more you're going to get something that makes the athletes look better than perhaps a truer.

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More objective, no conflicts in partnership that you have when Roger Goodell goes on a league partner, ESPN to support the Manning's, the first family of football and not get difficult questions, magic Johnson.

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I don't know if you guys saw this. He was asked by TMZ.

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If he likes anything or is excited about what Adam McKay is making for HBO Showtime Lakers thing.

36:41

That looks like a lot of fun because I mean, John C.

36:44

Riley looks just like Jerry buss and it's going to be a lot of sex and, and whatever it was that magic Johnson was in the middle of, of the Showtime Lakers and magic Johnson's responses.

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No, no, no. I'm looking forward to the documentary I'm doing.

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I'm looking, I'm not, he's not looking forward to this at all because my guess is he's not going to like the portrayal.

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It's not going to be, it's going to be something that was probably truer and more cartoony than whatever myth magic Johnson has been selling for 35 years.

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Like magic Johnson Live

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that like I'm guessing like it's, it's common knowledge and I'm certain he's discussed it with his wife, but to sit there and watch it with your wife is not something that he probably wants to relive.

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But also it's going to be something that isn't controlled by the people who are interested in presenting to you a certain image.

37:39

And so I ask you as the Manning cast interviews, Goodell or Aaron Rogers, and because sports is the great escape on some of these things where people don't want the guests talking about some of the difficult stuff, just come on and don't interrupt my football with any of the COVID stuff.

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Just let me enjoy my Monday.

38:02

Ben Roethlisberger with famous people watching the fourth quarter with Aaron Rogers, does the audience care?

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Does anyone out there care that? Of course, Roger Goodell is not going to get any tough questions.

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And of course, Aaron Rogers is not gonna get any tough questions because we've seated the floor to the power brokers and the money in a way that allows them to control message Mean

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I care, but most people care about the access.

38:27

I'm not going to watch care how good the guests are.

38:30

I don't like this show. I don't like the style of it.

38:33

And I, I hear those guests and I'm like, yeah, I'd like to hear a hard hitting questions asks of those guests.

38:39

I know I'm not going to get it there. And I'm sure it'll do big numbers and what You

38:42

would watch if they were doing that Correct.

38:44

You wouldn't have, but it's also not the main cast. And they probably wouldn't have access to those guests.

38:48

If they were doing that, their friends would feel like what the hell?

38:50

I'm probably here for a couple. They probably say the opposite right?

38:54

In getting Aaron Rogers. They, there probably is something along the lines of don't worry.

38:57

We're not gonna pin you down.

39:00

I think it would just be accepted. That's my friend.

39:02

They're not out to get me. They'd been in my shoes. We've been Roger.

39:05

Since all this happened. He usually is available to us more than once a season, but we have not been able to get him all of a sudden.

39:11

And I'm guessing it's because he's, I'm guessing.

39:14

He's pretty aware that the questions here are not going to be the questions that he's been getting over.

39:18

He promoted Joe Rogan's podcast and as ING, well, three hours, you will not regret.

39:24

Yeah, you're right, because I'm not going to listen.

39:28

But 40 million people watched those three hours like that.

39:31

Joe Rogan has absolutely Cherry

39:34

picked to someone that agreed with him.

39:35

Well, But hold on a second.

39:37

Let's there is a division in this country that we were speaking about earlier when Winningham was pointing out Twitter, isn't the same as the rest of the world.

39:48

And as ESPN makes a decision to go in its commercial Southeast, there is a customer that is buying all of that up and thinking that Joe Rogan is doing better journalism than journalists, because he has pointed out.

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And I understand why it is that the people listening to this or anything, Joe Rogan say, hear this in the fabric of what he's saying.

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Of course you don't want to trust government mainstream media or pharmaceuticals.

40:20

Like if you have any sort of distrust inside of you, those three are real easy to distrust.

40:27

And he becomes, counter-culture doing better, more honest journalism because he's willing to call CNN out on it's bullshit.

40:33

And there are occasions where he doesn't just check all of the boxes on the right.

40:38

Then he becomes a freedom fighter because he is navigating some of this stuff.

40:41

Well, by, by bringing in a whole bunch of experts and letting them talk who know more than he does.

40:47

So he could feed a counter-culture narrative that is starved because they hear how many of us are telling them, just get the jab, just trust science.

40:56

They're starved for affirmation. And that's what people like people will call Joe Rogan a journalist.

41:01

No, he's, he's just someone that makes you feel better about you.

41:04

Oh, but Mike, this has all changed. John Stewart became America's most trusted newsman after we are done with the age of Dan rather.

41:12

And whoever it is that you want to criticize is the nightly news.

41:14

Man. Walter Cronkite, speaking on behalf of America, that day is done.

41:18

It's Russell brand and Joe Rogan and other independent thinkers that have carving out some of their spaces around some of this and feeding a customer base.

41:27

That absolutely feels neglect.

41:30

Yeah, because most people don't want to be told what they're doing is wrong.

41:32

Most want to be affirmed in their beliefs.

41:35

And there's always going to be outlets for that Always.

41:38

But you see you guys see what can find that anywhere.

41:42

It's harder to find. You have to, you have to search for it.

41:44

For example, like clay, Travis has a sports audience.

41:48

Now I'm not sure how big it is, but he has an audience.

41:52

That'll just, that wants to be the hear constant affirmation that so-and-so is spoiled.

41:59

And COVID, isn't really that big of a deal.

42:01

And, and where's LeBron James on China.

42:04

They want to hear that people are always that's human nature.

42:08

People don't want to be told that they're wrong. People don't want to be challenged.

42:11

Well, neither side wants to be told that they're wrong though.

42:14

This is, this is the 100% of the thing that Rogan is pressing on.

42:18

That is absolutely reaching people.

42:20

Is this idea of some form of shouting bleep off you fat bleep telling me that I need to get a jab because I need to be healthy for you when I haven't been sick in 11 or 12 years, because I live a healthy lifestyle and you're moralizing on me at 350 pounds telling me I need to do this when I'm telling you, I don't think like everyone else does.

42:42

And there Aaron Rodgers fancies himself, a counter-culture free thinker.

42:46

It's not surprising that he would end up over there asking Joe Rogan for medical advice because Joe Hogan is one of the few doing something out there that is running contrary to the mainstream.

42:59

As he found what he was looking for. Someone that told them that he wasn't alone.

43:02

And he found that what Joe Rogan and he's finding it with pat McAfee, pat McAfee, I think plays it as well as you can play it.

43:09

He's getting tremendous access. And it's, it's Good

43:12

trade for McAfee. He's not a journalist.

43:14

He's a punter and a football player. And he's doing a show that that's, that's a good trade.

43:19

You Can expect anything from McAfee.

43:21

When he gets Aaron Rogers on Some

43:25

joker wearing a tank top, The

43:27

criticism is worth it's risk rewards to gods.

43:30

The criticism is worth it like, okay, you want the greatest criticism for having Aaron Rogers on every week on my platform is you guys think I'm too chummy with him.

43:41

As a former football player, who's making $30 million a year.

43:44

I used to be a punter and I just wanted a space here.

43:46

And now I can do whatever the bleep I want with whomever.

43:49

I want wherever the bleep I want.

43:51

You're going to tell me how to do this.

43:53

I don't have to adhere to your journalistic standards on what you want me to think about.

43:57

COVID I'm the every man I'm popular.

43:59

They love me in wrestling. They love me at Barstool. They love me on the laboratory show.

44:02

They love me on ESPN. I'm here to create content and have freedom in my life.

44:08

After I retired as a punter, retired as a punter.

44:12

And I liked now I've got an access that allows me to do something that what a dozen people in America are allowed to do.

44:18

What are there a dozen of us that are allowed to do this our way?

44:22

Are there even that many Certain,

44:24

I would say maybe a half dozen, maybe a half dozen people who could do it this way.

44:29

But part of that $30 million from Fan

44:31

duel is because you've acquired a large audience.

44:34

And I do think you have to hold people with large platforms accountable for what they do, But

44:38

this is how it's fracturing. Now though, it's not that anymore.

44:42

Journalism has changed. So you can just play to your constituency.

44:45

We just took hours from ESPN.

44:46

Those people ride with us. They came with us.

44:49

We don't have to speak differently to them.

44:51

That's our audience. And this lane is open.

44:55

This McAfee just took it from all the other people who want this space.

45:00

This lane is open. He cultivated relationships.

45:03

He's hugely likable.

45:05

And Aaron Rogers has a platform that is safe to say whatever he wants without much of a challenge.

45:12

I've got to assume Scott, you've been, we get Rogers twice a year.

45:15

Are we getting him twice this year? We got him.

45:18

Once I've been told, we'll get them a second time.

45:21

I'm just not certain when.

45:22

So I

45:24

think it's, it's fair for McAfee to have his show be about whatever he wants and talk about whatever he wants and challenge his guests or not if you want.

45:32

But I also think that it's fair for people like us or whoever to be critical of that and say like, Hey dude, there's a global pandemic.

45:39

It's killed millions of people. And you're not challenging the star athlete on his views about a vaccine that are misinformation.

45:46

I think both things are true.

45:48

Like I, I don't listen to that show to get my information about doctors or science or medicine, but I'm, I'm sure it informs some people's opinions.

45:56

And it's fair to be. I would say to you though, that so many as, as ESPN goes to commercials that say that south here, they don't want that here.

46:06

The focus groups, all show, keep all that shit out of my arena.

46:12

There's a whole, ESPN has just banked on get me those sec football fans who want to be Southeast right now because I want those customers.

46:24

That decision has been made that it's not an, an announcement that ESPN sends out.

46:30

When George Floyd, when they're doing hashtag one team after George Floyd and making a reverse on their corporation where you got ESPN radio polluted with happy Juneteenth after they just sat all that out.

46:43

Because all of a sudden they're like, well, the, the news of the slaves being freed, got to Texas, and we should celebrate that as a company, after sitting it out.

46:54

Now, the double-down is here. This is where the customers are.

46:58

And you ignore that at your own peril, because this is where this country is.

47:03

Now. You can't tell me that what you're witnessing in the mainstream media is objective media.

47:08

People have chosen their signs that go and get the media they want.

47:11

And whether it's McAfee or someone else, they don't want that.

47:15

Here. There is a substantive money base that has a great deal of the power that says, no, thank you.

47:22

I don't want buy restock. I don't want you judging me about what Aaron Rogers says.

47:26

I don't want you to lecture me. I don't want you to ask and Roger Goodell or Aaron Rogers, difficult questions tonight.

47:32

I just want to enjoy my sports.

47:34

Leave me alone. Just from McAfee standpoint, you have to ask yourself, is that worth the rest of you're running the risk.

47:40

If you do that of losing the relationship with Aaron Rogers, is That

47:43

worth it? If you start pressing him, what does he want to lose that weekly show?

47:49

No, there's no reason for him to do it.

47:51

He's one his way.

47:53

McAfee's way of doing it works just fine.

47:56

That all this is the stuff that falls off in accounting off the side.

48:02

This is the collateral damage. You're going to get some criticism.

48:05

And what I

48:06

think though, that like, that's, that's fair.

48:08

He can do whatever show he wants, but there the fact that we're arguing about what is objective fact or not is the problem.

48:16

It like there's vaccine misinformation.

48:20

Like there, you can't argue about the facts and we're arguing about whether they're facts or not.

48:24

This is like, this is the whole root of the problem is like, you know, just this basis in reality, that there's a huge disconnect.

48:30

I don't know I'm rambling, but we're arguing about things that are scientific fact and that are proven and saying that they're not.

48:37

And we can't say that this is an objective subjective thing.

48:41

I don't understand what you're saying because He's

48:44

not a journalist. He's not a journalist.

48:47

You want him to do something with your platform, with this platform that you would do.

48:51

And he's like bleep off. This is how I, this is my friend, Aaron Rogers.

48:54

I'm hiring my friends. I'm doing this my way.

48:56

I'm not doing this the way somebody else wants me to do it.

49:00

I'm trying to say, is that like, I think like a lot of the argument that you hear is that like you so much as being politicized so much as blah, blah, blah.

49:07

And it's like, we can't even get like the very basic public health facts across without them being called political.

49:14

And by feeding into the notion that that's a political conversation, you're choosing a side.

49:19

There are no facts anymore.

49:22

Jessica. There's just political. I don't, that's been that veneer has been stripped over the last couple of years.

49:28

People will go and get the news. They want not the news they need, they will get whatever they need to confirm their biases.

49:33

They're not looking for objectivity. They're looking for agreement.

49:36

They're looking for someone that goes with confirmation belief on what they all call confirmation bias on what they already believe.

49:43

Like, I, I don't know what you demand of your sports entertainment, but we are as an entity.

49:55

Our thing is something that journalistically, some of the people listening to this now or watching it right now, they ride with us largely insensibility.

50:05

You might disagree with a handful of things. You might hate me for a number of different reasons.

50:09

You might not like the lectures in the sermon, but somewhere within this, you want a smarter conversation that is a little different from sports radio, as you have lived it and everyone is choosing their sides and they go to wherever it is that they feel most comfortable in.

50:26

A lot of people feel most comfortable in a cushy setting where they could just celebrate and cheer their sports team and not have to think about the complicated stuff.

50:35

We can all agree this new dog's going to be fun in the third quarter.

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Had a solid NBA career, although if you ask him, and sometimes even if you don't. He'll gladly tell you he was the best player on every team he ever played on. And that includes teams that had LeBron James, Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosch in their primes. primes. He retired, but never He retired, but never retired retired. The thought that he's the best basketball player in the the thought that he's the best basketball player in the world. As thanks to a worldwide pandemic, that just won't leave us the fuck alone. though. He has another chance to prove us wrong and prove to us what he's known all has another chance to prove us wrong, and prove to us what he's known all along. Dan, Dan, I cannot believe I'm saying this crazy, but make no mistake about I cannot believe I'm saying this crazy, but make no mistake about it. Make no mistake. Mario Chalmers. Is back. Rio. Speaking of back, Bob 2. And Andy Dalton -- That was funny. -- the Red Rifle. I mean, how about that? Bob 2 running in there for Oklahoma. But he is. Just funny. He did a good job. Finding I finally won a ballgame. Did you see did you guys see that this year. I don't know if you saw some of these stats. We're like twenty seven percent of the underdogs, one and fifty unranked teams, beat ranked teams. Let's ranked. Yeah. This is just is just crazy distortion of a stupid season. Okay. Climpson was ranked nineteenth, and their ball game climps in stock this year. It's a big cover for me. Cincinnati Batard Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, Georgia. Do it against Alabama. Dan, stop trying to bait me and Mike into a double or nothing bed. It's not happening. I want Mike's hair. I thought we made it. Now Now. We did did not. Dan Shaves his head too. Oh, that's right. Yeah. Yeah. Well, what happened? I thought What way is this is someone I know? You said, no. I just tricked you. Just said stop dating me, and then all that. And you wanna start my go shading immediately. Wasn't we said I'd be willing to go double or nothing, although I think I like Georgia this time around. If Dan, if So I win and we're even. Right. What happened? Re I don't shave your head. If Mike loses you shave your head, Mike Ryan does. As Dan, you shave your hip. Happen. Sure. You want a piece of that action? And to stop baiting me in the double or 2 stop baiting me in the double or nothing. And now you start negotiating. I gotta be fired up. Do you want 2 into negotiations 2 double or nothing or not? Yes or no. Are you gonna be enough? Or no. involved? We'll see Kirby smart, terrible We'll see. Kirby Smart Terrible hair. Dan Reeves, great coach, sneaky good looking, and one tough son of a bitch. You punched in Reeves in the face, expect two things, a smile and a punch ten times harder in return. return. What are you laughing about there, laughing about there, Chris. This is a random thing. I'm telling you. He's a tough guy, man. How do you know him so well? I do. I know him. Rest in peace. peace. Why do you know do you know that? Why why do you Dan Reeves is one of the I think he's got a military background. He's got a chin. He is a tough guy, Dan. You punch him in the face. You'd expect two things, a smile and a punch back. Put it Put it on the poll, please Guillermo at Libertruck Show. If you have a military background and a chin, can we assume that you're a tough guy? You can be punched in the face and you will smile and punch us back ten times. Top five toughest coaches at sports history. Number five. Forest Greg. Your I have no idea if he was tough, but he looked off at a forest. And Stuttgart is just descending into bumpwills in force, Greg. Trump Phillips is number three. right? All Right? I had a dead read some of that. Now again, I have no idea if Bob Phillips was a tough guy or not, but his name is Bomini Ward, Gallant hat. I mean, didn't say Bump Phillips. I'm still marveling at your baseball card bump will This reference. -- necessarily mistake card. Number 2, Mike Dicke. And number one, Dan. This goes without saying everyone knows it. Nick Croda, No, Mike Tomlin on your leg. No. Oh, probably should be in there. there. I love what an older man calls me kid. Thea, it's so great. Like an old guy, hey, kid. There you love it. Put it on the it on the pole, please, Guillermo. Do you love when an older man calls you a kid? It sounds like it's delightful. delightful. Yeah, it sounds great for everybody It sounds great for everybody involved. Yep. involved. know what the K and Cooper Cup stands for, Dan? I do not Canton. Josh Johnson is a raven. If you thought flying on or around Christmas Eve was a good idea, guess what? It wasn't. And you're a moron. 2 harsh? Jake From. Did you fly? Is that what happened? I did not fly, but I just I mean, the number of people can explaining about their flights being delayed or canceled. What did you expect? expect? I mean, seriously, it was a worldwide pandemic going mean, seriously, there's a worldwide pandemic going on. I mean, what did people expect? expect? And it's Christmas it's Chris Smith. I see their family for the holidays. Why are you having to go? Okay. Like, I'm all for you trying to see your family. But if you're gonna book a flight around that time, there's a good chance it's gonna be canceled. Pandemic or no pandemic, to be honest. honest. good that that's the time you chose to be on it. God. What what branch of the military did Dan Reeb serve at? Because I I was hoping no one was gonna fact check me on that one. Did anyone do it? No military background, but he has a chin. We have a chin. We have a crazy. He has a chin, but I mean, that can be said for almost anyone and some of us have too chin, but I mean, that could be said for almost anyone, and some of us have two. Death taxes and Cameron Braith wide open in the end. So Always. I don't understand it. Is it because you have to cover everyone else? Is it because the sex in there yelling, groan, groan, and ten guys are hanging from his ear low. I don't think he's got in military burial. What? Do you think Dan Reeves is Roger Starback? Starback was in the navy. Navy. I thought Reeves had some sort of Marines background, like something his dad maybe, I thought Reeves had some sort of marine's background. Like something. His dad maybe I Dan Reeves was a marine. Yeah. His dad maybe has now made an appearance and still got rights to military back, man. Liberal Anne Reeves' age typically had a father that served in the military. It wasn't always their choice. Yes. choice. would make it a military background, though. Right? No. I don't know if you were comes from military family. Put it on the I don't know, Mike, I'm not certain you're right there. Like, I think if you're if one of your parents served in the military. You are you have a military background. I I lived with my grandfather for several years. He was a navy man. Oh. I have military background. background? I do not. I can get you. Thank you for your service, Mike. What you are not noticing here, Mike, is that simply 2. Now that you're looking up, whether Dan Reeves is in the military or not, Now he's sending you on a wild goose chase to see if Dan Reeves' dad was in the military, so he could be less strong than he just was. Just buy in time. Yeah. Grandfather, anybody. Did Dan Reeves ever know anyone? Did he ever visit anyone? I an academy of any sort that had a military undertone. undertone? Let's do God's this is an easy 2, this is an easy one. Did he have USAA insurance? Right. I'm not certain. But it's good point. Like, my father was in the military, Mike, and I can get USAA if I want. Now, I wasn't in the military, but I have a military background. I did not have a military background. Background. That's it? I think that's think that's in sulfur. There is nothing. insulting. It is done. It is insulting. To the military that you think you have a military background. background. Thought I did. He was born to Irish immigrants, immigrants. which can also be tough, but again, not a military background. You'll You'll get to get to might keep digging. Paul Beasley. That's a different Dan Reeves. I'm sorry. Ugh. Unfortunate. Also, not military background for this one. So perhaps you were looking up the wrong one the entire time. No. Dan Reeves with the big grandpa glasses? Yeah. Yeah. Don't see him being a marine. Okay. Cole Beasley. Beasley. realize that all you've done with your tough guy coaches is when you were a kid, an old white guy who was in charge. All they come up. That's all you did. Like, you were just a kid, and all you did was go through. through. You just went through cars, represented football to you back when you were a kid, that's all you just went through bars, Greg. When they did represented foot fall to you back when you were a kid. That's all you did. And there were no black head coaches back then. So they all had to be white guys you were afraid because my single terry is tougher than any of these guys. Right? It's a great deal. Yes. They did reach would not smile and punch him many times in the audio. Yes, he would. Yeah. He was because he's got a military. Exactly right. It's shit. Yeah. Because his dad was in the military. military. He was a Dan Reeves once spoke to a military Dan Reeves once spoke to a military academy. Boom. Boom. Boom. There it is. In your face when you have boom. Dan Reeves once walked past the military academy. Cole Beasley, complaining about the NFL's COVID policy, while not being vaccinated. Cole, the Stuttgart's is strong in you. Hey, Cole. Here's an idea. Instead of complaining, stick a needle in your arm. Dan, You know what the sea and cold beasley stands for? I do not. Complainer. I do not know that one. I'm sorry. How much has even thought it was gonna be COVID? A hundred that would have been funny or a hundred a hundred thousand dollars. Is that how much he's been fined in in just a variety of things because he doesn't wanna be vaccinated? Yep. The Vikings are a quarterback away. Sometimes, David Coley, coach of the year. Brandon Staley. Blah blah blah. We were off for so long, dad. Some of these are from last weekend. What do you mean? Blah blah blah. Staley was two weekends 2. ago. Two games games ago. He crossed that out. Now he's playing for a game to make the playoffs. But Staley yesterday kicked on fourth and goal from the one. I was Curious with Brandon Stanley. Live this life or don't, man. man. For it. It is so right. You know what to be in Brandon daily stands for Dan? Dan? I do not blah, I do not. No. But he won yesterday. And he's back. And then okay. He's back. Any reason you didn't update those notes. No. You're still gone. Yep. Seven to six at half, otherwise known as heaven. For Vic Fangea. Thanks. What was the score? That was last weekend. Because Weekend. Okay. Cause this weekend it was 17 to three close to this weekend, it was seventeen to three. Close 2. He kicked a sixty one yard field field. Gold fangs then. He was like, so happy. I thought he's gonna retire on the spot. It was nothing more helpless, and I know I speak for the dolphin fans that were watching this. Then having your playoff hopes and dreams tied to Drew Lock, know, just no shy. What were they doing running a fourth in goal? Philly special when the play ends and throwing to Drew lock. They should have fired Fangio on the spot there. Play is that. That's a play that needs to be eliminated from the playbook. Fire to that play. And never run it on fun. On fire to it. Wipe your ass with that play from the playbook fanjo and then set fire to it. said he deserves another year. I mean, winning him is so right. You cannot have a play in your playbook at the goal line. line. Let me throw it back to drew lock on fourth, down from across the field to see if I can get a yard on a double me throw it back to Drew lock on fourth down from across the field to see if I can get a yard on a double reverse That's when fans decides to be crazy. You're married. Bridge Batard for so long. Eighteen plays, six key yards, kick a field goal that that's when he sides with whacky. deserves another year. He kinda does. I mean, they've been competitive, you know, in just about every game. Jimmy Guaropoulos as the UCLAUCL thumbtear and fracture. Stugotz his face is okay. By the way, Dan, did you know thumbs had ligaments? I didn't. Why? What did you think? think? They were just blobs of were just blobs of Yeah. Just whatever. Mhmm. Skin and bone. Yep. No idea there were ligaments in there. Okay. Okay. The UCL. I did not know that that was the name of the ligament. I would have assumed that a thumb had ligament. So Alright. Smarter than I am. Joe Mason. Joe Burrow, Jamal Chase, and just like that, that. The bangles are fixed when they announced hockey was starting the bengals are fixed. When they announced hockey was starting again, again. It's the first time I realized hockey had the first time I realized, hockey had stopped. Dan, you know what the m? Did John Madden stands for? for? I do do not. It stands for football, Dan, which leads me to my all time, all mad and team. You ready? team. got an all time all Madden team right now. Yep. Some of his favorites. Okay. It's my all time all Madden team. That I made, but I did it as John Madden. Okay? Like I was thinking this is who Madden would want. want. Does he have his own on this front? Does he have full year one every year? I'm not certain he has an all time t. team. This is his all time is his all time t. According to you -- Yes. -- quarterback. Brett Farf. Back up quarterback. Brett Farf. Running back Yeah. Walter Payton, sweetness, Barry Sanders. At John Reagan's Riggo. John Riggins. Regan. He loved love Riggins. think Riggins made five all Madden tapes. I've got that. Look it up. Wide receivers. Jerry Rice. Brandy moss. And his favorite, Phil McConkey. Military background. Phil. Second app. Oh, on. Joe Jacoby, Russ Grim. Nate Newton. Jimbo covert. Jimbo Elliott. Bruce Matthews and anyone with moment. The last name Matthews, all the last name Matthews. All the Matthews take the entire Matthews family. Almost done. Deeline. Richard Dent. Jack Youngblood. Howdy Long. Jim Birtz. Steve McMichael, Reggie Whites at Bruce Smith. You put a line back in there Was there anything you just did? I have line backers next. Okay. Lawrence Taylor. Jim hacksaw Reynolds. Youngblood was a youngblood was a defense alignment? Yeah. Yeah. Play with a broken arm, I believe. I thought it was linebacker. Wilbur Marshall. Pepper Johnson. We love those giant teams. They won a championship -- Sure. -- running the ball. Yes. And of course, winning twenty 2 seventy. D b's. Mike Hanes. Unless they're Hayes. Ronnie Lotts, Gary fencing, Dion Sanders. No, no, no, Sanders. No, no, no, no no, no, kicker. Kevin Butler. And Mark Mosley. What? Hunter Sean Landetta. Is rosters carrying two kickers? Yeah. You need two kickers. Mhmm. I mostly won an MVP, but he really liked having Butler because Butler kicked in the wind. I love that that. You took that you took that seriously. He really loved Butler. I remember him. Butler kicked in the wind -- Yeah. -- which is everybody. Everybody has. Yeah. But the windy city, he was the bears kicker, you know, soldier feel by the lake, you know what I'm saying? Part of there. Yeah. Likeability. Thank Thank you, Billy, for your first contribution in seventy four minutes. If the three point line didn't exist, Demar DeRosen would be the best basketball player in the world. Come on him. have. I bought him this on him this weekend. Amazing. What a great feeling for twenty four hours to put the Bulls into one eat in the east because you keep hitting down, not not not tied down, you keep hitting game winners. winners. Two of them in 24 hours as Joel Embiid is one for 18 in game tying of them in twenty four hours, as Joel and Beat is one for eighteen in game tying situations last five seconds and overtime. And the only one who's worse is Kimbell Walker o for twenty five. Rudy Gay, Place for the Jazz. jazz. Reg Monro is a T Wolf Monro is a t wolf. Incredible. The Titans have the closest in the NFL to Derek Henry, backing up. Derek Henry, chiefs, bangles, literal track meet, bangles, blah blah blah blah. It was fourteen nothing. I regret that one. one. I do. Why didn't you update it? I don't know. Somehow, someway, Braxton Barrios will wind up in New England and eventually in Canton. Dan? Maybe Urban Meyer was right when he said everyone on his coaching staff was a loser. Holy crap. crap. It happened happened again this weekend. Zeff, taxes, and Cameron Brake. White hope it in the end So that was was an old Cameron Breita. Yeah. So, guys, is there any reason you didn't tell the people that this was gonna include two weekends of material like material? one myself. It's been helpful. Mhmm. Jamar, Chase, and Justin Jefferson, played together in college. You know, what the j, a jamar, Justin, a Jefferson stands for, Dan? I do not. It stands for Jesus. Holding the Chiefs are bangles to a feel goal, feels like a win for the other team. Jimmy Guarapolo, clipboard, collision course. It was nice for a change. That the most embarrassing thing going on in Verizon Stadium on Sunday wasn't the Jets playing football. Philadelphia Eagles, sneaky good. Jalen Hertz, Winter. FedEx field. Jump. Meanwhile, speaking of winners, Tom Brady. Thirty four fifty, four hundred and ten yards, three touchdowns. He has four thousand nine hundred and ninety yards, forty touchdowns, twelve interceptions on the season, and his team is twelve in four. He also let Antonio Brown live in his house What the hell? Speaking 2 hell are trials. Dan, those are the weekend observations. Guillermo put it on the pole, please. Did you know that Greg Monroe was still was a timber wolf? He's a t wreath. Did you know he was a t wreath? Wolf? I, I, I do think it is amazing. I I do think it is amazing. I I do think those two dots. I I for a moment, I would just like to pause. I know It's the most common thing in the world, but it is very rare that you get to be in the middle of something SportsPodcasts. That you are watching, that is not only a greatness without precedent, but a greatness that you're going to have difficulty explaining to your kids when fifties and sixties channels of today are erased. And you're trying to tell people how great Tom Brady was. The idea that he made that look that easy. easy. At forty four years old where the jets are winning all game. Mhmm. The jets have them beat. And Robert Sala did the thing. Fourth and short, let me just keep this game out of Tom Brady's hand. Let me just get one yard and finish the game because I don't wanna kick field goal and then let Tom Brady have two minutes to tie the game. It was two yards just so we're clear and you're right. Like he had a chance to at least ensure himself like over time. That was it was a worst case scenario, and Sala wanted nothing to do it do with it. Why? Because he knew the game would go to overtime. That's why. And anyone lost a Brady ino for time. But how easy he made that look without Antonio Brown? Just write down the field. Stuttgart, Tampa was down twenty four ten and had a fourth in short on the jet's goal line. line. At the end of the third quarter, you could have won the game right there by making a the end of the third quarter. You could have won the game right there by making a stop. Mhmm. stop. The idea that in 2022, we are still talking about Tom Brady, being able to do something length of the field that you only expect basically from a homes and The idea that in twenty twenty 2, We are still talking about Tom Brady being able to do something length of the field that you only expect basically from Mahomes and Rogers. Correct? And not the way you expected from him, but where you expect it? it. You're like, dude, how many quarterbacks in the You're like, do how many quarterbacks in the league Tell me this. Answer me this question. As we're watching Tom Brady do it at forty four and go into the playoffs with four losses losses. Again, how many quarterbacks in the league are you watching and saying, don't leave him that much How many quarterbacks in the league are you watching and saying, don't leave him that much time. Do not leave him time. Three, Mahomes, Rogers, maybe Lamar Jackson. Batard? No. Yeah. Maybe Stafford, Derek Carr. Maybe Russell Wilson, I do you know how absurd it is? I know we talk about it every week, but do you know how absurd it is? As Ben Rothonsberger plays his last game, spent six years earlier than Brady is. This is Cam Newton flames out at thirty two or thirty three. 33. Do you know how ridiculous it Do you know how ridiculous it is? And I understand the league is change the rules to protect people like him. The quarterbacks are playing a different game than everyone else. else. I saw roughing the passer saw roughing the passenger call. call. I think in the Jacksonville yesterday game, it was just totally I think in in Jacksonville yesterday game. It just totally absurd. Like, you can't allow defensive lineman. It would be no fun to be a defensive lineman playing the game this way. The amount of effort it takes to get to the quarterback. And then the stupid thing that they will call in order to play the rules, have the rules be different for quarterbacks than everyone else. That's a rule made because Tom Brady got injured. injured. It was was a nine play ninety three yard drive. He needed 2 touchdown. touchdown. He got a He got a touchdown. He had one time out, I think, of the two minute warning. He said, and you never had a doubt that he was gonna do it. That's No. And made it look so easy. Just went right down the field with precise throws to not god when knot available. Not not Antonio Brown. Some guy named Grayson. Right down the field. Number eighteen. Yep. Number right down the field on on the jet's plane you know, a a jet's defense that's not terrible. terrible. It's their their offense. Terrible. terrible. That defense isn't defense isn't terrible. I I just I mean, And he went to Grayson someone named Johnson and the final play was to levy on bell like went to Grayson, someone named Johnson, and the final play was to levy on Bell. Forty four. I mean, it really is fascinating to watch. I that you will not be able to explain to anybody no matter how many men in the arenas they do. What you what you lived through What you saw, a quarterback aged differently than any ever has in the history of the sport and his team at the end of another season of just Crazy. Two seasons have just crazy all around football. He's the one guy never gets hurt. Everyone else gets hurt. He's the guy who's playing every damn game at forty four years old and he's still the guy that you fear at the end of games. I just This is living the Michael Jordan years, but you never watch him become the wizards. You're watching history's greatest sports winner. Yep. At forty four years old, six years after Jordan was competitive. competitive. Two guys, LeBron just turned 2, LeBron just turned thirty seven. That's a marvel of science and body that a thirty seven year old is playing great. But he's playing great, but they they're no good. Like, that that team is not Davis is her, but that team's not any good, and his greatness is only enough to make them a a wheezing five hundred. Grayson had four of his career, ten receptions on that final draw. It is it's funny. Is it not like, I don't III suppose, at some point, I should just stop talking about it. Right? Like, it's I mean, how can you? We've never seen this before. You can't stop talking about it if his team is so relevant. Right? As long as he's playing at a high level and his teams are alive late in the year, you gotta keep talking about him. He's gonna stroll into Lambo again. Right? It's gonna be Bucks and Packers, NFC championship game. If this is It's my my question is this. Look at the celebration bureau took part in yesterday because he did it once. They're what? Look at the league yesterday. How many quarterbacks did that at the end? Did that? They're losing. The game is lost You should lose the game. game. You have not played as well as the jets have You have not played as well as the Jetson played. Derek Arch did it. He's really good at it. Derek Carr. Derek Carr is a good quarterback. Derek Carr did it, tied at twenty. Derek Carr did not -- No. -- do that. No. Tom Brady did nine plays, ninety yards, two minutes, one time out. You knew he was gonna do it. Forty four years old. old. He's the only quarterback in the league who did the only quarterback in the league. Who did that. Burrow wins the division. Cigars dancing because at the end of the game, he held the football and he beat my homes. But I honestly, you do not get to see things in regular that are this kind of unprecedented. Become normal that you're still watching. watching. I'm trying to find age comparisons for this human being anywhere across I'm trying to find age comparisons for this human being. Anywhere across humanity. I'm trying to find someone who can dominate a young man's game. Kam Newton has done a decade earlier, congrats. I understand he's playing a different sport. Physically, Ben Roth cheeseburger is toast. You're gonna watch him tonight, say farewell. Tom Brady is still on top of it all dominating a Sunday when his receiver quit and what? I mean, he's the MVP. It's just nuts. nuts. It's just totally just totally nuts like I don't think that I don't think Pete Sampress was like, this federer is like this. This droning excellence that just becomes something so overwhelming that it can't be argued, it can't be peers, you could just say, hey, I don't like him. You him. You can say, I say, I don't don't. I'm tired of him winning, but this is realms behind realms beyond even what Saban did in the middle of the arena in a young man's game, violent game where everybody gets I'm tired of him winning, but this is realms behind realms beyond even what Savin did in the middle the arena in a young man's game, violent game where everybody gets hurt. This dude at forty four years old, it's still dominating the end of a witching hour. By going down the field like you knew we would. Five years older than Ben Rompasberger. I mean, far of a great season at forty one. Right? Forty one. mean Quarterbacks historically. It's why people make fun of me and Max Kellerman about this because it was a safe bet for Max Kellerman to say eight years ago, this is when the slide stopped. Starts. Every quarterback throughout history aged that way, paint many got another manning cast tonight that Billy's all excited about. Billy, the manning cast, I love the manning cast, comes in and out. They just sorta take vacation during the season. And I'm with Billy on this. Steve Levy is done doing those men in cast promos because he has he has he is bullhorning Horning. His his demise. 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What's What's the guest list like tonight for Manning making Ben Rockolas burgers last game here, a lot, a lot more interesting tonight on ESPN two, the guest list like tonight for Manning, making a Benrockless burger's last game here, a a lot a lot more interesting tonight on ESPN too. I believe tonight is the final manning cast of the season and they are hitting us with the big guns then. Commissioner Roger Goodell will be there. Snoop dog will be there. there. Aaron Rogers will be Aaron Rogers will be there. It's a who's who. It's a who's who. And I think Steve Levy doesn't like that he has to do the reach for them because I was seeing commercial in sports. I don't know where he was telling everyone to check out Monday night football and it's like, and also, you can tuning into the main cast on ESPN 2, which would have you tuning out of Steve Levy, obviously. And Bill Cower in the first quarter. But Bill Cower in the first quarter, I quarter. I mean, that's just kind of like the appetizer, you know what I that's just kinda like the app sizes. You know what I mean? mean? Like bill cower in the first quarter is what you hand out in a wedding reception before you actually go Bill Cower in the first quarter is what you hand out in a wedding reception before you actually go in. It's like the oar durve that you're like, okay, I'm a little hungry. I'll have this just a little, you know, to be got little little bites here and there 2 fill my tummy a little until I get to the main course. That's what Bill Powers in the first quarter. We can agree on that. A little chin. Absolutely. I I go I go by the pecan. See? Yeah. Yeah. Right? Yes. And the second quarter is is the third quarter Gerdau and then fourth quarter Aaron Rogers. They're gonna watch the fourth quarter with Aaron Rogers. They're gonna Fourth quarter has to be Snoop. It has They they got the third quarter snoop. Uh-huh. Snoop. Aaron Rogers fourth quarter of Ben's last game, are they gonna ask him COVID questions? Yes or no? No chance. I think they'll make little joke about it. Like, oh, wait, anything going on with you lately, Aaron? Like, you know, one of those things. Or, like, they ask him about it without asking him about it. But a better joke. Right. Right. Yeah. You know? Eli is the guy that tries that, I would say. Eli is gonna be the one that tries to sneak one by Aaron. Anything new we can do going on Aaron recently? Nothing. I'm pre cringing right now thinking of this interaction tonight. Oh, I'm so excited to not watch it and then see what happens tomorrow morning on Twitter. On the subject of COVID. You got what? Here Aaron Rogers goes on McAfee. McAfee is his friend. McAfee is not gonna ask him a whole lot of difficult questions, I would assume. And he's gonna say as McAfee did that I respect everybody's opinions, but there's no way this is another safe space. Right? For both for both Rogers and Gerdau. Correct? Gerdau is not gonna get any tough questions either, is he? That's not gonna happen. Right? Well, even he did. He would answer them. I mean, On the promotional picture for his appearance, he's listed as commissioner Goodell instead of Roger Goodell. And I just Mhmm. That's stuff. I mean Come on. That's how 2 do it. Stagato legally changes first name to commissioner. I would have it on the birthday cakes. Put it on the commission. Put it on the poll, please, Guillermo at eleven times show. Does Roger Getdown's family wish happy birthday on the cakes? To commissioner Goodell instead of dad or Roger? Trust me as commissioner. Commissioner. I feel like these types of interviews, there's always one, like pre-approved semi-hard question that he's like prepared an answer like these types of interviews, there's always one, like, Pria proved semi hard question that he's like prepared an answer for. So the audience is like, oh, okay. They're gonna ask him some tough ones, ones. And then the rest is just all then the rest is just all fluff. Like, what do you think the, like, the preapproved, like, medium difficult question is gonna be to start this thing off? off. Cause you know, there's going to be you know there's gonna be one. Talk to us about how the COVID protocols have evolved over time. You've been working together with the Players Association to get players back on the field, Roger. How have you negotiated with the Players so situation. They association? They got to ask about Antonio brown ask about Antonio Brown, though. yeah. You guys can have this. Antonio yesterday commissioned. I Eli is gonna trip into a controversial question that wasn't improving. He's gonna get some he's gonna email from Roger's people. Well, let me ask you guys this -- No day and snider questions. -- Washington, anyway, was reported that Diane Ziner was intimidating potential witnesses to workplace behavior that might have caused you a bit of a headache. I mean, Just hours later, you said, nah, nothing is going on there. there. Do you care to you care to respond? I'd like to ask you guys this question. This is something I wanted to floor with Billy Corbyn in sports documentaries because I've noticed what Showtime is doing and they're getting access to athletes and they're doing documentaries with athletes, but they tend to be pretty sugary things. HBO Max had executive producers, Serena and Venus Williams, on an after school special with Will Smith. And the more you let the athletes control the content, the more you're going to get something that makes the athletes look better than perhaps a truer, more objective, no conflicts in partnership that you have when Roger Goodell goes on a lead partner, ESPN. To support the mannings, the first family of football, and not get difficult questions. Magic Johnson. I Johnson. I don't know if you guys saw know if you guys saw this. this. He was asked by He was asked by TMZ TMZ. If he likes anything or is excited about what Adam McKay is making for HBO Showtime Lakers he likes anything or is excited about what Adam McKay is making for HBO, a Showtime Lakers thing that looks like a lot of fun because, I mean, John C. Riley looks just like Jerry Bus, and it's gonna be a lot of sex and and whatever it was that magic Johnson was in the middle of. Of the Showtime Lakers. And magic Johnson's response is, no. No. No. I'm looking forward to the documentary I'm doing. Where I control. doing. I'm looking, I'm not, he's not looking forward to this at all because my guess is he's not going to like the looking yeah. I'm not what but he he's not looking forward to this at all because my guess is he's not gonna like the portrayal. portrayal. It's not going to be, it's going to be something that was probably truer and more cartoony than whatever myth magic Johnson has been selling for 35 It's not gonna be it's gonna be something that was probably truer and more cartoony than whatever myth magic Johnson has been selling for thirty five years. Like, magic Johnson. He doesn't wanna relive that. Like, I'm guessing, like, it's it's common knowledge, and I'm certain he's discussed it with his wife, but to sit there and watch it with your wife is not something that he probably wants relive. But also, it's going to be something that isn't controlled by the people who are interested in presenting to you a certain image. And so I ask you, as the ManningCast interviews Gerdell or Aaron Rogers. And because sports is the great escape on some of these things, where people don't want the guests talking about some of the difficult stuff. Just come on and don't interrupt my football with any of the COVID stuff. Just let me enjoy my Monday, Ben Rothlisberger with famous people watching the fourth quarter with Aaron Rogers. Does the audience care? Does anyone out there care that, of course, Roger Goodell is not gonna get any tough questions? And, of course, Aaron Roger is not gonna get any tough questions? Because we've seeded the floor to the power brokers and the money in a way that allows them to control message. mean, I I care, but most people care about the access. I'm not gonna watch. I care how good the guests are. I don't like this show. Don't like the style of it, and I I hear those guests. And I'm like, yeah, I'd like to hear a hard hitting questions as of those guests. I know I'm not gonna get there and I'm sure it'll do big numbers and But you would watch if they were doing that. Correct? You would -- Yeah. -- but it's also not the main cast and probably wouldn't have access to those guests guests. If they were doing that, their friends would feel like what the they were doing that. Their friends would feel like, what the hell? I mean, hell? I'm probably here for a here for a couple of last. couple. probably say the opposite. Right? In getting Aaron Rogers, Rogers. They, there probably is something along the lines of don't they're probably something along the lines of, don't worry, we're not gonna, you know, penny down. down. I think it would just be it would just be accepted. That's my friend. They're not out to get me. They've been in my shoes. We've been trying to get her and Roger since all this and he usually is available to us more than once a season, but we have not been able to get him all of sudden. And I'm guessing it's because he's I'm guessing guessing. He's pretty aware that the questions here are not going to be the questions that he's been getting pretty aware that the questions here are not gonna be the questions that he's been getting everywhere over. promoted Joe Regan's podcast. As IG, well, three hours you will not regret. Yeah. You're right because I'm not gonna listen. Therefore, I can't remember. listen. forty million people watch those three hours. Like that, that. Joe Rogan has absolutely Rogen has absolutely found a cherry picked someone that agreed with him. Well, but But hold on a on a second. Let's There is a division in this country that we were speaking about earlier when Whittingham was pointing out Twitter isn't the same as the rest of the world. And as ESPN makes a decision to go in its commercial southier, there is a customer that is buying all of that up and thinking that Joe Rogen is doing better journalism than journalists because he has pointed out, and I understand why it is that the people listening to this or anything Joe Rogan say, hear this. In the fabric of what he's saying. Of course, you don't want to trust. Government, mainstream media, or pharmaceuticals. Like, if you have any sort of distrust inside of you, those three are real easy to distrust and he becomes counterculture doing Batard, more honest journalism because he's willing to call CNN out on its bullshit, and there are occasions where he doesn't just check all of the box says on the right right. Then he becomes a freedom fighter because he is navigating some of this he becomes a freedom fighter because he is navigating some of this stuff well by by bringing in a whole bunch of experts and letting them talk who know more than he does so he could feed a counter culture narrative that is starved because they hear how many of us are telling them, just get the jab, just trust science. They're science. starved for affirmation. And that's what people like, people will call Joe Hogan a journalist. No. He's he's just someone that makes you feel About your you. Oh, but Mike, this has all Mike, this is all changed. John Stewart became America's most trusted newsman after the we are done with the age of Dan rather and rather. And whoever it is that you want to criticize is the nightly whoever it is that you wanna criticize sizes the nightly newsman, Walter Cronkite, speaking on behalf of America. That day is done. It's Russell and Joe Rogen and other independent thinkers that are carving out some of their spaces around some of this and feeding a customer base that absolutely feels neglected. Yeah. Because most people don't wanna be told what they're doing is wrong. Most people wanna be affirmed in their beliefs, and there's always here to be outlets for that always. Always. But you see you guys see what can find that see, you guys see what you find that anywhere in my 2. No. It's it's harder to find. You have to you have to search for it, for example, like Clay Travis has a sports audience now. I'm not sure how big it is, but he has an audience that'll just that wants to be hear constant affirmation that so and so is spoiled. And COVID isn't really that big of a deal. And and where's LeBron James on China? They wanna hear that. People are always that's human nature. People don't wanna be told that they're wrong. People don't wanna be challenged. Well, neither signed once. To be told that they're wrong, though. This is this is the one hundred percent The thing that Rogen is pressing on that is absolutely reaching people is this idea of some form of shouting, bleep off you fat bleep, telling me that I need to get a jab because I need to be healthy for you when haven't been sick in eleven or twelve years because I live a healthy lifestyle and you're moralizing on me at three hundred and fifty pounds telling me I need to do this. When I'm telling you, I don't think like everyone else does. And there Aaron Rogers fancies himself a counterculture free thinker. It's not surprising that he would end up over there asking Joe Rogen for medical advice. Because Joe and how can the judge a few doing something out there that is running contrary to the mainstream. What happened is he found what he was looking for, someone that told him that he wasn't alone. And he found it with Joe Rogen. And he's finding it with Pat McAfee. Pat McAfee, I think plays it as well as you can play. He's getting tremendous access and it's It's That's a good trade for McAfee. He's not a journalist. He's a punter, a football player, and he's doing a show that that's that's good Are you saying people don't expect anything from McAfee when he gets to Aaron Rogers on after he lies to everybody? He thinks it seems like I'm just some joker wearing a tank tank tank away. The criticism is worth asking. It's risk rewards, 2 Gantz. It's gods. The criticism is worth it like, okay, you want the greatest criticism for having Aaron Rogers on every week on my platform is you guys think I'm too chummy with criticism is worth it. Like, okay. You wanna the the greatest criticism I agree. It's we're having Aaron Rogers on every every week on my platform is you guys think I'm too chummy with him as a former football player who's making thirty million dollars a year. year. I used to be a punter and I just wanted a space used to be a punter. And I just wanted a space here and now I could do whatever the bleep I want with whomever whomever. I want wherever the bleep I I want, wherever the bleep I want, you're gonna tell me how to do this. Don't have to adhere to your journalistic standards on what you want me to think about COVID. I'm the every man, I'm popular. They love me in wrestling. They love me at bars tool. They love me on the leverage They love me on ESPN. I'm here to create content and have freedom in my life after I retired as a punter. Retired as a punter. And now I now I've got an access that allows me to do something that what? A dozen people in America are allowed to do? What are there a dozen of us that are allowed to do this our way? Are there even that many? I'm not certain. I would say maybe a half dozen. Maybe a half dozen people who could do it this way. But part of that thirty million dollars in FanDuel is because you've acquired large audience and I do think you have to hold people with large platforms accountable for what they do with. But this is how it's fracturing now, though, it's not that anymore. Journalism has changed, so you could just play to your constituency. constituency. We just took hours from We just took hours from ESPN. Those people ride with us. They came with us. We don't have to speak differently to them. That's our audience. And this lane is open. This McAfee just took it from all the other people Who want this space? This lane is open. He cultivated relationships. He's hugely likable. And Aaron Rogers has a platform that is safe to say whatever he wants without much of a challenge. I've got to assume, 2, you've been We get Roger's twice a year. Yes. Are we getting him twice this year? year? We got We got him once. I've been told we'll get him a second time. time. I'm just not certain I'm just not certain when. So I think it's it's fair for McAfee to have his show be about whatever he wants and talk about whatever he wants and challenge his guests or not if he wants. want. But I also think that it's fair for people like us or whoever to be critical of that and say like, Hey dude, there's a global But I also think that it's fair for people like us 2 or whoever to be critical of that and say, like, hey, dude, there's a global pandemic. pandemic. It's killed millions of It's killed millions of people and you're not challenging the star athlete on his views about a vaccine that are misinformation. misinformation. I think both things are I think both things are true. Like, III don't listen to that show to get my information about doc ACTORS OR SCIENCE OR MEDICINE, BUT I'M I'M SURE IT INFORMS SOME PEOPLE'S OPINIONS THAT IT'S CARE TO BE CRITICAL OF THAT. I would say to you though, that so many as, as ESPN goes to commercials that say that south here, they don't want that WOULD SAY TO YOU THOUGH THAT SO MANY, AS AS PN goes to commercials that say that's Southier. They don't want that here. here. The focus groups, all show, keep all that shit out of my focus groups all show Keep all that shit out of my arena. There's a whole ESPN has just banked on, get me those SEC football fans who wanna be wealthier right now because I want those customers, that decision has been made, that It's not an announcement that ESPN sends out when George Floyd when they're doing hashtag one team after George Floyd and making a reverse on their corporation where you got ESPN Radio polluted with Happy Juneteenth after they just sat all that out because all of sudden they're like, Well, the the the news of the slaves being freed got to Texas, and we should celebrate that as a company after sitting it out. Now the double down is here, this is where the customers are, and you ignore that at your own peril because this is where this country is now. You can't tell me that what you're witnessing in the mainstream media is objective media. People have chosen their sides. They go and get the media they want. And whether it's McAfee or someone else, they don't want that here. There is AAA substantive money base that has a great deal of the power that says, no, thank you. you. I don't want buy I don't want virus talk. I don't want you judging me about what Aaron Rogers says. don't want you lecture me. I don't want you ask can Roger Goodell or Aaron Roger difficult questions tonight. I just want to enjoy my sports leave me alone. And just from McAfee's standpoint, you have ask yourself, is that worth the risk? You're running the risk if you do that of losing the relationship with Aaron Rogers. What's this? Is that worth it? He's one. If you start raising it. What does he wanna lose that weekly show? He he does it. He's no he No, there's no reason for him to do no reason for him to do it. He's what I'm saying. His way McAfee's way of doing it works just fine. The all your this is the stuff that falls off in accounting off the side. THIS IS THE Batard DAMAGE YOU'RE GOING TO GET SOME CRITICISM AND WHAT. I THINK THOUGH THAT THAT'S FEAR HE CAN DO WHATEVER SHOW YOU ONCE, BUT THE FACT that we're arguing about what is objective fact or not is the problem. problem. It like there's vaccine like, there's vaccine misinformation. Like, there you can't argue about the facts and we're arguing about whether they're facts or not. This is like this is the whole root of the problem. It's like, you know, just this basis in reality that it there's a huge disconnect. I don't know. I'm I'm rambling, but it we're arguing about things that are scientific fact and that are proven and saying that they're not. And we can't say that this is an objective subjective thing. I don't understand what you're saying. Because -- I don't either. I I He's not a journalist. He's not a not a journalist. He's not a journalist. You want him to do something with your with his platform that you would do. And he's like, blip off. This is how I This is my friend Aaron Rogers. Rogers. I'm hiring my hiring my friends. I'm doing this my way. I'm not doing this the way somebody else wants me to do it. I guess what I'm trying to say is that, like, I think, like, of argument that you hear is that, like, so much is being politicized, so much is blah blah blah. And it's, like, can't even get like the very basic public health facts across without them being called political. political. And by feeding into the notion that that's a political conversation, you're choosing a by feeding into the notion that that's political commerce SAATION YOU'RE CHOOSING A SIDE. side. There are no facts ARE NO FACTS ANYMORE, Jessica. THERE'S JUST POLITICAL. I DON'T THAT'S BEEN THAT Veneer HAS BEEN stripped over the last couple of years, people will go and get the news they want, not the news they need, they will get whatever they need to confirm their biases. biases. They're not looking for not looking for objectivity. objectivity. They're looking for looking for agreement. They're looking for someone that goes with confirmation belief on what they all confirmation bias on what they already believe. Like, I don't know what you demand of your sports entertainment. But we are as an entity. Our thing is something that journalist stickly. Some of the people listening to this now or watching it right now, they ride with us largely in sensibility. insensibility. You might disagree with a handful of You might disagree with a handful of things you might hate me a number of different reasons. You might not like the lectures in the sermons. But somewhere within this, you want a smarter conversation that is a little different from sports radio as you have lived it. And everyone is choosing their sides and they go to wherever it is that they feel most comfortable and a whole lot of people feel most comfortable in a cushy setting where they could just celebrate and cheer their sports team and not have to think about the complicated stuff. We can all agree this. New dog is gonna be fun in the third quarter.