0:01

You are listening to Draft

0:03

Kings Network. This.

0:11

Is the done Labour party sure with

0:13

this to get spot gas. I

0:25

think the Dolphins are making the Superbowl.

0:27

I genuinely think they're making the Superbowl

0:30

do I? They have Tyree Kill who's

0:32

clearly game breaker and shifted the power

0:34

in the com front from Kansas City

0:36

to Miami. I was on Vic Fangio,

0:38

his legacy god, the lowercase G their

0:41

no offense anybody, He's the got a

0:43

defensive coordinators and and they're ready to

0:45

do it man. Mike Mcdaniel Dig in

0:47

in to a second season. He's he's

0:49

familiar now is more comfortable. Yep, they're

0:51

they're they're man. They're ready. They're ready.

0:54

Dolphins Haven't been to a Superbowl. And

0:56

almost forty years since damn Marino's Nineteen Eighty Four

0:58

and they're ready. The going to do it. The

1:00

Dolphins are overwhelming. I'm not certain they're not the

1:02

best team in the Nfl right now. Greg, I

1:04

mean I could. I could talk for the whole

1:07

show about whether a better game and weather better

1:09

than Buffalo Dolphins offices of Or and football for

1:11

me like I can't watch a football game of

1:13

it's not The Dolphins done the exact opposite for

1:15

me. I just can't football amazed like I'm watch

1:17

low and it's great. But I'm saying it's ruined

1:20

the rest of football for me. Like I can't

1:22

watch just a single game. That's not the Dolphins

1:24

to or. Is everything they thought

1:26

he would be when they drafted him number

1:28

five ahead of Herbert. To. Or

1:30

the favorite in the Mvp odds

1:32

right now should be with great

1:35

reason. Yeah and I just think

1:37

this is the most dynamic, well

1:39

balanced, inventive, exciting often have ever

1:41

had. Were watching something we don't

1:43

understand and he's out tactician and

1:45

people on things we don't understand.

1:47

This is the most overwhelming our

1:49

I have ever seen the franchise

1:52

play our franchise of Dan Marino

1:54

to as getting rid of the

1:56

ball the way that Tom Brady

1:58

does in speed withdrew. These accuracy

2:00

they should be the Dolphins year though, right?

2:02

I mean, this is the best years they've

2:04

had it winning a Super Bowl and twenty

2:07

five year. Correct with the accuracy. That's neat.

2:09

stoppable man. A dog. By.

2:12

The dolphins opens his until

2:15

somebody proves otherwise. Homeless. Unsolvable.

2:18

Look at the demise on David Samson

2:20

phrase. I think the people on the

2:23

back row today trying to fool me

2:25

put her on the pole, juju out

2:27

laboratory show, do reading glasses make you

2:29

look more responsible or we've got a

2:31

back row of Total Anarchy. And in

2:33

the front row. We've. Got Chris

2:36

Cody in charge and is a mess because

2:38

of everything happening with the Dolphins. Are you

2:40

are just beginning and off season of every

2:42

one question in your quarterback and everything that's

2:44

happening there will get to David. same since

2:47

Business thoughts on this in a second. But

2:49

first Chris tell the people what kind of

2:51

mess you are today. I'm all over the

2:53

place In the last twenty four hours I've

2:55

traded to Or. I. Have signed him

2:57

do a max deal. I've.

3:00

I've just I can't decide what I want to

3:02

do. I don't know if is good. I don't

3:04

know what any of this means. I don't know

3:06

how this or not the season was A good

3:08

season. I've flown all over the place on every

3:10

single topic with the dolphins. I. Does

3:13

this is what I'm saying? That that's how we feel. David.

3:15

What should the Dolphins do with to

3:17

or what are the a business merits

3:20

of? He's the best quarterback you hadn't

3:22

twenty five years no matter how many

3:24

people are questioning him. So.

3:26

You don't have to make good decisions.

3:28

One of the things that guess owners

3:30

in trouble is when they make decisions

3:32

for they have to have. A lesser

3:34

known situation is when the Red Sox

3:36

games extension across south or the Tigers

3:38

your died Dave Dombrowski gave an extension

3:40

dear to our Miguel Cabrera when he

3:42

didn't have to or Dontrelle Willis when

3:44

he then after. he just don't need

3:46

to do anything with to a right

3:48

now. I don't think it's

3:50

necessary. I think you wait because

3:53

are you sure the to What

3:55

is the person and from a

3:57

business standpoint, are you interested in

3:59

the money? You're making as a

4:01

team with your ancillary businesses, which

4:03

is what Steve rosters ancillary to

4:05

the Dolphins around Hard Rock Stadium

4:07

and within her rights stadiums. Are

4:09

you interested in possibly getting to

4:11

the Superbowl for the first time?

4:13

In most people like times, And

4:16

I think if it's the latter, you need

4:18

to wait because his quirky and great is

4:20

Mike Mcdaniel is. We don't know for sure

4:22

whether or not the dolphins are a position

4:24

to be competitive at the end and it

4:26

doesn't matter what happens at the beginning of

4:28

a season or were map, it matters what

4:30

happens at the end. It's and owners get

4:33

pressured by Pr. And the good news

4:35

is in Miami the Pr is all over is

4:37

Chris? Cody just said so I think the dolphins

4:39

wait So you're saying just let him play out

4:41

as option year. Play. It out. There's

4:43

nothing wrong with letting players play out

4:45

their contracts. Every every only gets nervous

4:47

so we're gonna lose. I'm always gonna

4:49

be a free agents over gonna have

4:51

to end up paying more. So

4:53

now people are speculating. Oh, just give

4:55

him a hundred million guaranteed and that's

4:58

sort of in the middle where it's

5:00

neither here nor there. You're not really

5:02

giving him the max. you're not getting

5:04

close to Watson, but you're still then

5:06

same that he's gonna be the quarterback.

5:08

The you want is your franchise quarterback

5:10

and to me. Baker. Mayfield did

5:13

just fine. But. And I mean

5:15

on the flipside, there is benefit to when you

5:17

know it's your guy. you lock them up and

5:19

you know happen and base for with Evan Longoria.

5:21

With the raids it's happen with the Braves. Have

5:23

now an all star team for the next decade

5:25

because he locked ever went up. I. Guess

5:27

the to a question is. Is

5:29

he there guy right? Because if he is

5:31

there guy than they should try to lock

5:33

him up because if they don't bend they're

5:35

gonna have to start over again if he's

5:37

too expensive, raise the question. Also is not

5:39

just is he there guy, but it's how

5:41

much do you have to pay him if

5:43

he's your guy Because the be examples you

5:45

just brought up for bringing guys in for

5:47

what eventual he became below market value and

5:49

were guys on on sort of cheaper deals

5:51

and they would have gotten when they got

5:53

to free agency. where to or if he

5:55

gets paid in extended will likely do so.

5:58

Was one of the highest paid quarterbacks. in

6:00

the league so I can actually understand where

6:02

David's coming from to an extent with Tua

6:04

of, hey if he just plays out this

6:06

year, yeah you might have to pay him

6:08

what might be an even bigger deal going

6:10

into the following offseason and you risk the

6:12

opportunity of losing him but at the same

6:14

time if you're unsure as to whether

6:16

or not he's the guy in the system I can

6:18

understand waiting it out. Well that's the thing, if he

6:21

is your guy sign him now because it's only going to go up. It's

6:23

not going to go down if you wait a year. Are

6:25

you sure? Because he just led the league

6:27

in passing if he gets hurt and there... Well because

6:29

the contracts always go up. But if

6:31

they're 9 and 8 last next year and you're even

6:33

less sure than you were before is it going to

6:36

go up? Like, I mean he couldn't have

6:38

had a much better, he had a terrible ending but

6:40

he couldn't have had a much better regular season. He

6:42

was healthy and he led the league in passing. What

6:44

I'm saying is if he's your guy, which they would

6:46

know or not know, if he's your guy lock him

6:48

up because if he's not your guy then you can

6:50

let him go. But if he is and you're going

6:52

to lock him up a year from now it can

6:54

go from 45 million to

6:56

60 million. I think we have to play the game

6:59

to win or to out. Is that the

7:01

name? Is he your guy Billy Gil? We

7:04

have set a record for asking whether

7:06

someone is someone else's guy in

7:09

this segment and we're 10 minutes into

7:11

the segment. Still don't have an answer. David,

7:14

no we're not going to have an answer for 7 years

7:16

just like with Tannehill. He's my guy. We're going to do

7:18

it all over again. We're going to do the same thing

7:20

that we did for 7 years. I'm too in. With

7:23

Tannehill, David,

7:25

can you tell me what you

7:27

made of Peacock drawing 23 million

7:29

people to

7:31

its streaming services? The other games all did

7:33

better than that. All the other

7:36

games on network television did

7:38

better than that and Cowboys

7:40

Packers was at almost double

7:42

that but 23 million they're

7:44

trumpeting it as the greatest

7:46

streaming victory in the history

7:48

of the United States in

7:50

the history of things being streamed. Well

7:53

let's not get too crazy because until

7:55

we see the numbers and we'll never

7:57

see the numbers but maybe someone

8:00

will find them, maybe Pavlotori will

8:02

find out. I want to know

8:04

how many people both signed up

8:07

for Peacock and then kept it. That

8:09

is where the money is. The

8:12

23 million also is an incorrect number because that

8:14

number includes all the people in Miami and Kansas

8:16

City, now that we're way more in Kansas City,

8:18

but the number of people who watch the game

8:21

on regular television. So it

8:23

wasn't actually 23 million

8:25

streaming. However, I think

8:27

what fans have to realize, and

8:29

so many people were so upset that,

8:32

oh, it's just streaming. You guys did

8:34

a whole segment on how grandparents

8:36

will figure out where to find the

8:38

game. The NFL could not care less

8:41

about that demographic and having them understand

8:43

where to find games. They're

8:45

focused on getting as many

8:48

possible entities to bid for

8:50

the right. Peacock

8:52

paid $100 million just for

8:54

that game. Extrapolate that

8:56

over an extended playoffs, extrapolate

8:59

that over a regular season,

9:01

and you're talking about a huge amount of

9:04

money going to these owners. I

9:06

think what the Peacock game did is

9:09

hopefully helped inform all of

9:11

you that more and more

9:13

games will be streamed and your

9:15

CEO, John Skipper, is going to

9:17

be correct where the Super Bowl

9:19

will eventually be behind a paywall.

9:21

It's coming and it's coming soon.

9:23

How crazy are you made as

9:25

someone who cares so much about

9:27

baseball business that football just

9:29

stumbles into giant oil wells of

9:32

money and they don't have to

9:34

be monogamous, exclusive,

9:36

with anybody? They

9:39

are just capable of creating

9:41

money streams in all sorts of

9:43

new places in ways that are really

9:45

ridiculous. It's not just MLB. Think

9:48

about what the NBA just announced in the

9:50

last couple of days. I don't know if

9:52

you guys covered this, that the

9:54

NBA draft is going to be over several

9:56

days now. They're trying to make

9:58

it an event the way the N. Valve draft

10:00

isn't events we spent years just

10:02

trying to be wiped. Football: What

10:05

can we do? But the biggest

10:07

differences? Nfl shares all of it's

10:09

national broadcast revenue and there's no

10:11

local broadcast revenue and that's just

10:13

what the and be a an

10:15

Mlb will never be. So therefore,

10:17

what is it about the Anna

10:19

that really bothers me the most?

10:22

It's had forty million watch the Cowboys

10:24

Packers game and a total of not

10:26

even fifty million watched the entire World

10:28

Series. What bothers me the most is

10:31

when the list of top hundred so

10:33

it comes out and eighty six of

10:35

them are Nfl games was so badly

10:37

we want to be able to send

10:40

a press release that more people are

10:42

engaging with baseball and that more young

10:44

people are playing it all in an

10:46

effort to just get more broadcast revenue.

10:49

Bnb A doing the same thing as

10:51

they're going into a negotiations. But at

10:53

the end of the day. Nfl. Was

10:55

on taxable. And that's the problem.

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about talk Oh, I like firing people.

12:01

So I take the

12:03

opportunity to fire whenever I possibly can because I can

12:05

use it as a learning experience for them and try

12:08

to help them out and try to point out what

12:10

they did wrong. But in this case,

12:12

the employee was enough levels below where

12:14

I was that I did not do

12:16

the firing, but I had it done

12:18

within moments of discovery. I

12:21

just like... I love the idea.

12:23

I like firing people. It's

12:26

just absurd. It's absurd.

12:29

StuGats! I'm talking about

12:31

people who I fire who deserve it,

12:33

who have done something that actively requires

12:35

me to fire them. It is my

12:38

unadulterated pleasure to do so. This is

12:40

The Unlibertary Show with The StuGats! This

12:48

podcast is nothing personal. It

12:50

is live at 8 a.m.

12:52

every morning, every weekday morning

12:54

on YouTube. Billy, you

12:57

have been locally and nationally

12:59

the only one brave enough

13:01

to call out the

13:03

flirtations of Dwayne Wade when

13:05

he's a heat lifer but goes elsewhere. He

13:08

just got a statue. Not flirtations. It's full

13:10

on effing. Alright. It's full

13:12

on effing. He left and went

13:14

to other places. It's not like,

13:16

oh hey, I'm sure it's penetration

13:18

station. Okay, it's penetration station. What?

13:21

You heard him. It's penetration station. And

13:23

Billy came in here unhinged this morning. He's

13:26

had a couple of days off and he's

13:28

just crazed. Trust me. When you were with

13:30

StuGats, you don't have any days off. One

13:33

of the things that's happening with him though

13:35

is he is willing to

13:37

go where other people in this town are

13:39

not willing to go when it comes to

13:42

the excess that we bestow upon

13:44

Yutana, Sazlem and Dwayne Wade. Where

13:46

I can't keep track of the

13:48

ceremonies because every couple of weeks

13:50

they have some sort of other

13:53

ceremony to celebrate these guys

13:56

retiring many years ago. Let's be very clear

13:58

on the front end here. I have not taken

14:00

any shots at Eudontus Haslam, that is you. You're the

14:02

one beefing with him and feuding with him, not me.

14:05

You're the one writing articles, doubting him, not me.

14:08

What I said was, Jeremy said,

14:10

oh, this Friday I'm covering the Heat game,

14:12

we're doing Eudontus Haslam's retirement goal. Another one?

14:14

Like we just did this with Dwayne Wade,

14:17

like three days ago. Can we space these

14:19

out a little bit? Like what are we

14:21

doing that every game is like this special

14:23

honor where we're bringing back old timers and

14:25

doing this and that? Like let's space these

14:27

things out. Give me time to miss people.

14:29

Why are we doing everything so close together?

14:31

I don't understand. I can understand what you're

14:34

saying about giving some time to miss people,

14:36

but wasn't the whole complaint before that we

14:39

were doing all of it in all of

14:41

these different weeks? They've got one week. Dwayne

14:43

Wade just got his Hall of Fame Enshrinement

14:45

Honoree and was told that he

14:47

was going to be given a statue

14:49

in the fall of this year. Eudontus

14:51

Haslam is getting his number retired now. Now

14:53

I can understand with Dwayne Wade, where

14:55

it's felt like a lot, because the

14:57

last two games of his, he had

14:59

the last dance, right? Or rather, what

15:01

was that one? Yeah, last dance. Where

15:04

it was his entire final season

15:06

that was sort of documented and

15:08

everybody was giving him rocking chairs,

15:10

et cetera. But then his final two games, his

15:12

final home game was his last game, his final

15:15

road game was his last game, the game in

15:17

Brooklyn. Then he comes and gets his number retired

15:19

and now it's this announcement after the Hall of

15:21

Fame. There was a movie too in the middle

15:23

of all of that. I remember going to see

15:25

the movie at the arena. Hold

15:28

on a second, let me get David. There's a

15:30

lot, there's a key under a door mat. Yes,

15:32

that was for LeBron, I think. That's

15:34

what got Pat Riley. No, no, no, LeBron was,

15:37

hit the road, Jack, you're out of here. No, Pat Riley got

15:39

fined $25,000 on freedom for

15:42

leaving the key under the mat for LeBron.

15:44

You're welcome. I just don't understand Billy's dislike

15:46

for Wade. You know your favorite, you know

15:49

your favorite Marlin player played for another team

15:51

too. It's not dislike for Wade. You're the

15:53

one suggesting that Dwayne's statue should be him.

15:56

What were you suggesting? Him as a cab? Let's

16:00

not misrepresent this. Let's not misrepresent

16:02

this. I said are we ever

16:04

gonna get honest statues? And then

16:06

I said it would be funny if when they unveiled

16:08

the statue It was LeBron and

16:10

Wade doing the Rachel Nichols interview in

16:12

Cavs uniforms because that's all he ever

16:15

did on the Cavs That's what I

16:17

said. Okay, that strikes me as anti

16:19

Wade, but no let's play the sound

16:22

If I'm historically accurate, I'm anti someone

16:24

for simply selling the truth Yeah, but

16:26

for telling the truth. I'm anti some

16:28

but saying that he's not a heaps

16:31

heaps life He's not a Gora drag

16:33

it to the heat like no, he played like 12

16:35

teams. That's a whole nother thing I don't understand that

16:37

that guy Supposedly wanted to come back to the heat

16:39

so bad and had like three opportunities to come back

16:41

to the heat didn't come back to The heat and

16:43

now is going and is playing a game in like

16:45

Slovenia. Yeah one more game He can't even do that

16:47

on the heat He loves the heat so much didn't

16:49

want to sign with the heat but he's having all

16:51

of his heat friends go to Slovenia to play A

16:53

game. What is that? You know, what does he actually

16:55

like this team? And then he has like season tickets

16:57

practically He's sitting in the stands every game. They're like,

16:59

I want to play for us He's like nope. Nope

17:01

don't want to play for you. And then a microphone there's

17:04

like I love the heat I'd love to play What

17:08

are you doing you're here you have nothing but time on

17:10

your hand go play for the heat If you want to

17:12

play for the heat so bad, what are we doing? I

17:14

don't understand this you guys are so stupid You

17:17

let what people you let these people paint

17:19

on our fancy narratives that just go to

17:21

what you want to believe and you fall

17:23

For it every time what's wrong with you

17:25

guys? You're gonna honor you're gonna honor Goran

17:27

in two weeks I already know it gonna

17:29

retire his number two. We're running out of

17:31

numbers people. We're running out of numbers What

17:33

a Yankee Cody's you're like hi, Mayhaka's whatever

17:35

we should retire his number two. Okay, great

17:38

Let's retire his number. Oh, he's gonna leave

17:40

this team on a finals run I've heard

17:42

that about everyone from Jimmy Butler to Tyler

17:44

hero to what's his name bumpy that you

17:46

called him Tyler

17:48

Johnson I never said that about you

17:51

guys were all over Tyler Johnson all

17:53

over Tyler Johnson David

17:55

Sampson we will hold that you don this

17:57

has one sound for later in the show

18:00

show he is and him indeed mad

18:02

at me Samson your

18:04

thoughts on Wade getting a statue and

18:06

whether or not it should be a

18:08

statue of him LeBron and Rachel Nichols

18:11

commemorating all he did in that

18:13

interview yeah in the interview I'm

18:15

still reveling in the fact that Billy is so

18:17

upset about something other than the Marlins right now

18:19

I'm not upset I'm just it was what can

18:21

you sound upset what I don't that's me is

18:24

you guys it's not even then it's like guys

18:26

you guys are the fish that come out of

18:28

the water with three hook holes and it's like

18:30

how do you guys keep getting hooked by the

18:32

same fisherman over and over again I don't understand

18:34

do you not learn any of you

18:37

do you not learn this just a game they're playing

18:39

with you only do this to the heat though like

18:41

you love Juan Pierre he played for

18:43

other teams like the fact that you're holding mr.

18:45

Marlin played for not only your whole

18:47

right nickname ever back Marlin the fact

18:49

that you're holding way going somewhere at

18:51

the very end of his career to

18:54

other places it's just two other places

18:56

it's blasphemy it's not Samson I have

18:58

some concern about statues in general because

19:01

I am hurt

19:03

we had a statue ready to go for

19:05

Jose Fernandez we had the artist hired

19:08

we had the mold ready

19:10

and then the team got sold and

19:12

the new owners decided that they were

19:15

not going to allow any sort of

19:17

statue any sort of anything for Jose

19:19

Fernandez because it was too difficult a

19:22

conversation to have because of the circumstances

19:24

under which he passed away and

19:26

so they just decided to completely just

19:29

get rid of Jose and and any part

19:31

about him so that's a bit personal with

19:33

me so it has changed how I view

19:35

statues I would go around to different ball

19:37

parks with it when the team was on the road and

19:40

look at the different statues and which

19:42

players get them and how the most

19:44

famous statue of course was the one

19:46

in pudge Rodriguez's backyard he had a

19:48

full 12 foot statue of himself in

19:50

his own backyard one of the greatest

19:52

statues you'll ever see and my

19:55

only question is when you decide a statue

19:57

it's a huge decision because in theory it's

19:59

not supposed to go away like a

20:01

retired number, except we unretired

20:04

a number with the Marlins, which

20:06

was a horrible move. But if you give

20:08

one to Wade, how many statues and where

20:10

are they going to be and who's going

20:12

to see them? What's the

20:14

location? That's what's fascinating to me.

20:16

Do you put Wade in the prime spot? Where's

20:19

LeBron's statue going to go? He can't do it

20:21

behind where the park was going to be. So

20:24

do you put it right at the entrance? Do you

20:26

then put two next to each other and then

20:28

Bosh doesn't get one? Is

20:30

there a one in the corner where Butler or

20:33

any of the other greats? No, that's

20:35

not even the right statue that I'm talking about. That's

20:38

the one that he got in Texas. The one

20:40

you'll never see a picture of is the one in his

20:43

backyard. But in any case, the Heat are an example of a franchise.

20:47

They do things in a very knee-jerk way when

20:50

it comes to honoring, which is funny because

20:52

when it comes to building their team, they

20:54

are methodical and successful. And this

20:56

all started for me back in 03, when

21:00

the Heat inexplicably and

21:02

infuriatingly retired Michael Jordan's number in

21:04

a move that I've never forgiven

21:06

them for because, A, it's a

21:08

terrible precedent to ever retire the

21:11

number of a player who wasn't

21:13

yours unless it's a league-wide initiative

21:15

like Roberto Clemente, let's say. So

21:18

I just don't know what Pat Riley's gig

21:20

is as it relates to statues and

21:23

retired numbers, but it's way too much.

21:26

David, I don't know what

21:28

you were seeing in preview there. It

21:30

wasn't a statue that was on the

21:32

big screen for the viewer to see.

21:34

So you were reacting to something that

21:36

only you were seeing there and the

21:39

rest of us were not seeing. I

21:41

believe I have seen a public photograph

21:43

of the statue that Pudge Rodriguez had.

21:45

We will, in his yard, which was

21:47

laughably funny, we will see if we

21:49

can find that. But can you tell

21:51

me the unretiring of a number? You

21:54

unretired the number

21:56

that you had given Carl Barger, correct? It

21:58

wasn't me. We inherited Karl

22:01

Barger with the first president. I

22:04

was the third president in Marlins history. Dombrowski

22:07

was two and Karl Barger was

22:09

one. Karl Barger, I believe, passed

22:11

away prior to the first game

22:13

the Marlins ever played. And

22:15

Wayne Heisinger retired his number, but he didn't

22:18

have a number. They just said it was

22:20

number five. Maybe that was

22:22

his favorite number. And one day

22:24

Jeffrey Loria walked into my office and

22:26

said, we're giving Logan Morrison five. And

22:29

I said, no, it's retired. He said, no, we're

22:31

unretiring it. And I said, you

22:33

can't unretire a number. And he

22:35

had promised Logan that he would

22:38

get number five. So that was

22:40

it for Karl Barger. We moved it from

22:42

a retired number to like a plaque. And

22:44

it always bothered me. And I lost that argument with

22:46

everybody. And I spoke to Logan about it. And he

22:49

didn't know who Karl Barger was. It didn't matter to

22:51

him. And I think the whole

22:53

purpose of retiring a number is that

22:55

you keep that flame alive. So

22:57

people keep the legacy and learn

22:59

about the person. I

23:02

just don't think you can unretire

23:04

a number. It's not right. Karl

23:06

Barger was the late president of

23:08

the Marlins. His favorite baseball player

23:10

was Joe DiMaggio, whose number was

23:12

number five. And I want the

23:14

audience to absorb the uproarious hilarity

23:16

in unretiring a dead man's favorite

23:18

number who started your franchise for

23:20

Logan Morrison. Like that's

23:22

unbelievable. Put up the statue

23:24

please now on the screen

23:27

that Pudge Rodriguez had in his

23:29

backyard, a

23:31

just glowing testament to

23:33

narcissism and self. The

23:36

statue is the second most ridiculous thing in

23:38

the photo. I know, right? He's on a

23:40

motorcycle in front of the statue. That would

23:42

make a better statue than the statue, I

23:44

think. Motorcycle on grass. Him on the motorcycle,

23:46

that is correct. What are you shaking your

23:48

head about, David? I'm just reminiscing

23:50

about the party that he hosted after the World

23:52

Series. We all had a blast. We had won

23:54

the World Series. We went to his house. This

23:56

is back before some of the issues he had,

23:59

financial. but he had an

24:01

amazing house in Miami. When you go over

24:04

the causeway, there's these exclusive areas. And

24:06

then we go to the backyard. None of

24:08

us had ever known, none of his teammates

24:11

had known because he really wasn't necessarily that

24:13

close to his teammates. So we never, no

24:15

one had been to his house. And we

24:17

walked into the backyard and there this thing

24:19

was, and you could see people like, I

24:22

remember Derek Lee's reaction, like it was yesterday.

24:24

You sort of look at it and you're

24:26

like, oh my God, I've never seen anything

24:28

like this. And to this

24:30

day, I've never seen anything like that. Did you

24:32

call Dwayne Wade's statue knee jerk? Yes.

24:35

What are you doing? He's the greatest player

24:37

in their franchise's history. And

24:40

building him a statue makes all the

24:42

sense in the world. He's

24:44

a Hall of Famer. He's a Hall of Famer

24:46

off the court at this point as well. That's

24:48

what happened in this market of my lifetime. Yeah,

24:50

and LeBron, you know, you said, where are you

24:52

gonna put the LeBron statue? You won't put a

24:54

LeBron statue. He played here for four seasons. He

24:57

was their best player, but your greatest player

24:59

was Dwayne Wade and your culture carrier is

25:02

Eudonis Haslam. And that's why he gets his

25:04

number retired. So I think it makes all

25:06

the sense in the world. And these things

25:08

have been sought out for years, not just

25:10

right now. Culture carrier makes it

25:12

sound like a virus, makes

25:17

it sound like something that is disease. It

25:20

is when it comes to you yammering about it. Hey,

25:23

it's Mike Ryan. I love football

25:25

and I love Miller Lite. Why

25:28

do I love Miller Lite? Well,

25:30

the penable flavor, the fact that it's

25:32

a beer that tastes like beer, the fact that

25:34

when I'm having a Miller Lite, I don't have

25:36

to think for one second about the beer

25:38

that I'm drinking. And I know that it's only 96

25:40

calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces. It's

25:43

my favorite beer. I believe in the product. You might

25:46

be sick of hearing me talk about it, but I'll

25:48

be talking about it till I'm old and gray because

25:51

Miller Lite is with me wherever I go,

25:53

no matter the season and especially the winter

25:55

time. I love drinking Miller Lite during the

25:58

winters because when it's cold outside, I'm... It

26:00

needs koozie for it. It stays the perfect

26:02

temp. It is the best beer. And it

26:04

pairs well with playoff football. Miller Lite. Great

26:07

taste. 96 calories. Go to

26:09

millerlite.com/Dan to find delivery options near you.

26:11

Or you can pick up some Miller

26:13

Lite pretty much anywhere that they sell

26:15

beer. Tastes like Miller Time. Celebrate responsibly.

26:17

Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96

26:20

calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces. D'Alebutard!

26:23

They made gas from

26:26

three. Now they gonna

26:28

see you, pretend me.

26:30

Now he's just playing.

26:33

Nickelback in the locker room

26:36

and- StuGuts. They'll play D

26:38

and Stu3 as they chase

26:40

the net for the 16. The

26:43

high water's in his head.

26:45

Me, Maui, winning games yet.

26:47

This is the Dan Lebutard

26:50

Show with the StuGuts. I

26:59

cannot imagine how insane David Sampson

27:01

was made by Adnan Burke at

27:04

the Critics' Choice Awards revealing

27:06

a whole bunch of photographs

27:08

including an annoyed Robert De

27:10

Niro trying very quickly to

27:12

walk past Adnan and Adnan

27:14

taking the picture while he

27:17

was walking past unhappily. Like Robert

27:19

De Niro did not want any part of

27:21

saying hello to Adnan Burke. He was giving

27:23

him the side eye clearly but

27:26

I wanted to wait to talk Emmys

27:28

with David Sampson because I know he cares

27:30

about all this awards bullshit deeply. How

27:33

did you feel about

27:35

Adnan Burke's photographic celebrity

27:37

star bleeping? So you

27:40

have to understand that Adnan was texting me all

27:42

these photos. I didn't think he was going to

27:44

post them. He sent me

27:46

the De Niro photo and he said

27:48

to me, look, my buddy De Niro.

27:51

And I responded like, buddy, it's

27:53

like he wants to have you

27:56

arrested. No interest. You're

27:58

not posting that, right? And the next

28:00

thing I know, of course, it's being posted. And

28:02

I went right to trying to understand

28:04

Metal Arc and trying to understand how it

28:06

all works and how he goes to

28:09

the Critics' Choice Awards. Why is

28:11

that paid for by Metal Arc? What's

28:13

the advantage? What content are you getting from it?

28:16

Other than putting pictures of people

28:18

who've been on this podcast, how about

28:20

getting new people on the podcast? How

28:23

about adding value instead? It looks like,

28:25

it literally looks like Adnan is stalking

28:27

people. Oh no, he was. If

28:29

you want to listen to today's Cinephile, he details

28:31

the entire night and it's just him

28:33

sitting around waiting for this guy to

28:35

go to the bathroom and follow him

28:37

there and get a selfie. It's

28:40

kind of gross, but it's also adorable because he's so

28:42

excited to be there. He went there on his own

28:44

dime. He maybe could have gotten Metal

28:46

Arc to cover it, but he paid for it all

28:48

himself. And it's just, I just, look

28:50

at him. He's so happy. He met Paul Giamatti.

28:53

Come on, how can you hate this guy? What

28:55

were those squares? Did he take a screenshot of

28:57

the iPhone trying to post it? He did say that

28:59

the Will Ferrell one was a terrible self. Put that

29:01

one back up. That's just like, Will Ferrell was there

29:03

for a second and he was fumbling with his phone

29:05

and Adnan got the best shot that he could under.

29:08

He just screenshotted himself taking a

29:10

picture while the phone was trying to focus

29:13

on him and Will Ferrell's fate. These are all

29:15

terrible selfies. He actually said Will Ferrell of all of

29:17

them recognized them. Like was like, Hey, I know you.

29:19

And that was the only one that gave that. No,

29:21

all the other people did not. I

29:24

just think that what you're doing is creating

29:26

a monster and Adnan who already thinks his

29:28

movie takes are so far superior. And now

29:30

you put him in a room with all

29:32

these celebrities where he somehow actually is delusional

29:35

enough to think he's friends with them. And

29:38

he posts this and then gets a podcast out

29:40

of it. So I hope from a standpoint that

29:42

it, you know, the ratings are great and the

29:44

downloads are great, but I just don't see the

29:46

value. If you're going to send Adnan, you

29:48

have to send me too, because then we

29:50

could do a show together and we could

29:52

actually, we didn't send him. He sent himself.

29:54

I know, but I don't buy that. I

29:56

wait, wait for the expense report. I would

29:58

like to quickly just flip through. all these

30:00

selfies because they're all bad for different reasons. Like

30:02

the exposure is behind him in a lot of

30:05

them. One of them is just a screenshot of

30:07

a picture. One of them he's

30:09

cutting his own head off. Like they're all

30:11

poorly constructed selfies but each for a day

30:13

it's actually very impressive to be

30:15

this bad at. You know what she's totally right. Let's

30:17

roll through these one at a time and

30:19

find the flaws in each of them. This

30:21

one might be the best one. Bill Hader.

30:24

Bill Hader might be the best one. Okay we're being

30:26

haters and this might be the

30:28

best one. But Bill Hader is far behind

30:30

him but he's engaged. Let's see the next

30:33

one here. He

30:35

said Jon Hamm of all of them was

30:38

not unfriendly but just was like buddy come

30:40

on. He felt the energy from Jon Hamm

30:42

of like I don't want to be taking

30:44

this photo. And you can tell because he

30:46

put half of his face outside of the

30:48

frame I think maybe as like a reaction

30:51

to the hostility emanating from Jon Hamm's body.

30:54

It is an awkward photo. This photo

30:56

here is too much light,

30:58

way too much light on Adnan's face. You

31:01

can't see half of Adnan's face with Seth

31:03

Rogan. Also blurry yes. Wow

31:07

that's pretty good right there. Limited fake Seth

31:09

Rogan's high laugh. Let's see what else

31:11

we have here. Yes Will Ferrell

31:13

there. The mistake is obvious.

31:18

That's honestly impressive. I've never seen anybody

31:20

be able to take a screenshot while

31:22

a picture is happening like that. I'm

31:25

almost more impressed than it being a bad

31:27

picture. Who is the celebrity in the background

31:29

with the tiny box in front of their

31:31

face? That's an underrated part of the selfie.

31:35

All terrible, all worse than the last.

31:38

There's Wams Gam. Awful lighting what that

31:40

was. Terrible lighting. Okay so David

31:43

one of the things I wanted to talk to

31:45

you about a lot of people are making fun

31:47

of Bob Odenkirk and Better Call Saul because they're

31:49

the biggest loser in the history of the Emmys.

31:51

No one's been nominated more for an

31:53

Emmy without ever winning one than Bob Odenkirk and

31:55

put it on the poll please Juju. Does

31:58

Bob Odenkirk look? physically

32:00

like someone who has lost 53

32:03

Emmy nominations I

32:06

would say Better Call Saul was better than

32:08

the bear and I'm offended

32:10

by the idea that Better Call Saul has

32:12

never won. Different categories. The bear was comedy.

32:14

Okay well was it? Which is ridiculous in

32:16

and of itself. This is the whole issue.

32:18

This is the whole issue. It's almost like

32:20

the all- Succession was comedy. Well it's like

32:23

the all-NBA voting. Like eventually they had to

32:25

get rid of the center position and just

32:27

make it three forwards and it's the same

32:29

thing now. All of these shows are hybrids. Right?

32:31

Succession is a comedy. The bear is a

32:34

drama. But it's nominated for comedy and the

32:36

other one's nominated for drama. None of it

32:38

makes sense. Better Call Saul was the only

32:40

true drama that was remarkable like this. And

32:42

to be nominated 53 times and

32:44

never win, there were some of the things that won

32:46

over it. You know season 8 of Game of Thrones?

32:49

The one that everybody hated the ending? The one with

32:51

the Starbucks comedy? Won over season 4 of Better Call

32:53

Saul. What? That doesn't make

32:55

any sense to me. That makes me sick.

32:58

Cousin Greg, look he was good at

33:01

his job and his role but the

33:03

idea that he won supporting actor over

33:05

any of the other supporting characters in

33:07

Better Call Saul over the span of

33:09

these years. There's so many

33:11

different examples of times when these actors, these

33:13

characters should have won. It's Ray Seahorn that's

33:16

the most infuriating of all of them. She

33:19

was unbelievable and to have a

33:21

true dramatic performance like that. One

33:23

that was like Shakespearean in the

33:25

level of acting that she had

33:27

to have that lead to

33:29

Jennifer Coolidge. Jennifer Coolidge

33:32

who was comedic in

33:34

the drama. It just doesn't make any sense to

33:36

me and I love Jennifer Coolidge but that was

33:39

not the same level of performance. And the other

33:41

thing is Carol Burnett should have been nominated for

33:43

Best Guest Actress because she was so good in

33:45

that final season. Let

33:48

me play for the audience here real

33:50

quick before we get David's thoughts on

33:52

this. All of the shots of Bob

33:54

Odenkirk losing at the Emmys. Just play

33:57

all of them. John

34:00

Hamlin And

34:05

the Emmy goes to Rummy

34:08

Malley And

34:11

the Emmy goes to Sterling K. Brown

34:17

Rachel J. The

34:22

Emmy goes to Karen

34:24

Kochen And

34:27

the Emmy goes to Samson, your

34:29

thoughts? I

34:31

hate the fact that you're forced to clap for someone else.

34:34

They're not rooting for someone else to win. And

34:36

I think it's so disingenuous when they show the

34:39

people who lose and they're cheering and saying, Yeah,

34:41

go and clapping. They really

34:43

want to drop them the bird and they want to leave. And

34:47

so, Oden Kirk, I think the last year when Kochen won

34:49

over him just a couple days ago, I think that was

34:52

the final straw because he knew the show was a big

34:54

deal. Because he knew the show

34:56

was over and that was his last time,

34:58

his last chance, and he didn't hide his

35:00

contempt. And deservedly so,

35:02

he should feel that contempt. He also

35:04

had a freaking heart attack while filming

35:06

the last season of the show and

35:08

came back and delivered for the fans.

35:10

I am with Jeremy. That was Jeremy's

35:12

best rant in show history. Jeribear, give

35:14

it up for Jeribear, the Emmy for best rant in

35:17

show history. Billy

35:19

seems unimpressed. I mean, he almost died. You're just going to

35:21

give him an award for good acting because he almost died.

35:23

They're unrelated. We do that all the time. Billy

35:25

had a good rant earlier in the show. I

35:28

think he deserves the Emmy for so far. That

35:30

was also for Jeremy. He's nominated. I'm happy for

35:32

Jeremy. What are you reviewing for

35:34

us this week, Samson? Can we

35:37

talk about the mission? Has anyone in your group

35:39

seen the documentary called The Mission? No. Okay,

35:42

so I want to explain it to you.

35:45

Do you remember the story of the guy,

35:47

the religious zealot who went to the group

35:49

of people who live in the north Sentinel

35:51

Islands off India, where

35:53

you're not allowed to go because they're cannibals.

35:56

They're not a civilized group of human

35:58

beings. They have separate laws. It's

36:00

very simple. You cannot go to that

36:02

island. But this guy said, no, no,

36:05

I'm gonna go there And I'm gonna

36:07

convert them all to my religion sort

36:09

of like Elder Cunningham type stuff So

36:12

he goes there and then he never

36:14

comes back Shockingly he

36:17

got eaten wonder why that

36:19

would be so this documentary is the

36:21

first time They are giving you

36:23

the true story and you're getting video

36:26

Because there were videos of his efforts to get

36:28

to the island and people sort of scared they

36:30

had to drop them off You know, you don't

36:32

if there's no doc or anything It's

36:35

a bunch of savages who live

36:38

as savages and I

36:40

was watching this documentary thinking what

36:42

kind of hubris Did these religious

36:45

zealots have that they think that

36:47

they're gonna go and say you guys

36:49

need to find God? and then

36:51

they end up as lunch it

36:54

is a documentary called the mission and You

36:57

should watch it because a you're gonna learn

36:59

something and be it'll get you thinking about

37:02

Why is it that we need people and this

37:04

goes for our country, too? Why do

37:06

we need people to believe what we believe in

37:08

order to make us feel better about what we

37:10

believe? I don't know the

37:12

answer to that. So while forcing his religion

37:14

on a group of people

37:17

on an island He was cannibalized. It's what

37:19

you say. He said lunch actually was

37:21

how he punctuated it. They are cannibals

37:23

They are savages these this

37:26

group this this community if you can call it a

37:28

community I'm not sure they have a government and

37:31

He he never came back and

37:33

the hypothesis. I mean they don't have guns

37:36

or anything They use both bow and arrow

37:39

is that he was killed and his body

37:41

was never recovered And that he

37:43

was killed and eaten. I've always

37:45

thought about like Cannibalism is

37:47

so wild like Dan me and you let's pretend we

37:49

were on a plane the two of us it crashes

37:52

And we end up on an island together. All right,

37:54

and you're like, hey, I'm older than you. I'm gonna

37:56

sacrifice myself I'm gonna die here and you can eat

37:58

me to survive I wouldn't even know where

38:00

to begin. Like where, like, do I

38:02

have to like rip your leg off completely? You

38:07

mean you don't know how to butcher a human? Am

38:09

I just gonna start gnawing at his skin? Do I

38:11

need to cut, get through skin first? You could cook

38:14

him. It's gonna light a fire. So light a fire

38:16

and just roast him. Well you don't want to do

38:18

it as sushi. Like the

38:20

pig on Nochebuena? Yes. Like

38:23

just put you in a box? You absolutely have

38:25

to cook me. Okay. So

38:27

I can't just start gnawing at your calf. That's

38:29

unwise. People say this like,

38:31

oh, who are we gonna eat here?

38:33

Like I wouldn't even know where to begin in

38:35

terms of eating someone. Well it's not- There's a

38:37

new movie about this right now called Silence of

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the Snow that is based on the crash of

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the and- in the Andes of the soccer team.

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And it was a movie a while ago called

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Alive. It may be before your time. Alive?

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Anybody? Yeah, a soccer team that crashed

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and they had to eat each other. So like am I taking

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all of Dan's clothes off? Can I just heat all your clothes

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in the clothes? Are you gonna eat the clothes off? You don't

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wanna eat the clothes. That's my point.

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So I have to picture me on an island now.

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And now Dan's naked. So now I have to make

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Dan fully nude. It's just like I'll probably leave his

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underwear on just because it's awkward. That's

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the awkward part. I mean it's all awkward.

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That's the point. You'll

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eventually have to eat that too though. Hey,

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it's Mike Ryan. I love football

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and I love Miller Lite. Why

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do I love Miller Lite? Well,

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the punnable flavor. The fact that

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it's a beer that tastes like beer. The fact

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that when I'm having a Miller Lite, I don't have

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to think for one second about the beer

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that I'm drinking. And I know that it's only

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96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces. It's

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my favorite beer. I believe in the product. You

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might be sick of hearing me talk about it,

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but I'll be talking about it till I'm old

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and gray. Miller Lite

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is with me wherever I go, no matter

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the season, and especially the wintertime. I love

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drinking Miller Lite during the winters because when

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it's cold outside, I don't need a koozie

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for it. It's a perfect temp. It is

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the best beer, and it pairs well with

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playoff football. Miller Lite, great taste, 96 calories.

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Go to millerlite.com/Dan to find delivery options

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near you, or you can pick up

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some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere that

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they sell beer. Tastes like Miller time.

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Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin,

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96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12

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ounces.