Local Hour: The Ken Le Batard Show

Local Hour: The Ken Le Batard Show

Released Tuesday, 31st October 2023
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Local Hour: The Ken Le Batard Show

Local Hour: The Ken Le Batard Show

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You're listening to Giraffe

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King's Network.

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This is the Dan Labatore Show with

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the Stukas Podcast.

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I am truly embarrassed by this

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company's Halloween effort. What do you mean?

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Truly embarrassed. There is so

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little effort being put in here into

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Halloween costumes. There

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was a notice sent out that

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there was a Halloween costume contest

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today. Now, I've got to salute the people

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in video. To whom? I

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saw it in the Slack. It was in the Slack. It was.

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A lot of channels in that Slack.

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Slack. Please. What are

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you, Greg Cody? What are you supposed to

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be

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right now? You've got just a furry

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brown thing on your head. I have no

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idea what you're aspiring to. It's not obvious.

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I'm Kwasi. Duh. The

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lion that stars in The Pride

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of a Lion, the new book dropping December

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5th and now available for free order

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at Amazon and wherever you buy your books. Yes.

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What is that about? It's

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the life story of the first male lion ever

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born at Zoo Miami. Ron McGill and I

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collaborated and the book in pre-sales,

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pre-orders is doing really, really well. We're super

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excited about it. Chris Cody, what are you

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supposed to be? I'm just first. I'm a fork

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in the road, of course. You're wearing

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a shirt with a fork on it. Yeah. Well,

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there's a roadway. You're second place.

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You're second or third place right now on

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costumes here. First place for me. You're

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a thief, as always. Lucy,

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what are you?

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The ghost of Iowa's offense. You

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finally got some relief on Iowa's offense.

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Why are they waiting until the end of the season to get

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rid of Brian Farrant?

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Because they went over Kirk Farrant's head to do

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this. Well, they had to. They had to do it. Who

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cares? I'm free. Today's a great

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day. It's the happiest Halloween ever. What

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is the over-under? I was playing Northwestern

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this weekend. What's the total

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in that game? I think it was 30 and a half last time I

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said. I thought why? It opened at 29 and a half. I'm

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going under. Lucy, I'm going over. I'm

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going over. Whoa! Lucy has given me

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Iowa unders all year, but not this time.

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I can't do it. I'm taking the over. That

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is a really bad call. There was a baseball game

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at Wrigley this season that had 29 runs in it. We

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will not hit that. Not a chance. Mike,

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what are you? Just someone wearing a... I'm

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just dressed normally. I

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didn't see the aforementioned slack, but I

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would have ignored it anyways. Nice hat. I'm

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not... Thank you. Yeah, available at the

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Greg Cody Show merch store. I'm not King-shamin'

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here, but dressing up on

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this show is... I reserved that for

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a bucket of death punishment. I'm confused. We've

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just passed my dad giving him some sort of

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victory. The main is usually

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not above the head of a lion. This

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is a lion as

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a Russian babushka. Yeah. So

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we're combining cultures here, but

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it's Kowassee. It's Kowassee.

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Yes. Thank you. You'll meet

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and learn to love Kowassee in the new book, The Pride

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of a Lion. Can you guys put up, please,

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on the screen that kid who

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did Mike McDaniels as

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a costume for Halloween? Oh,

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that was great. Yes.

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He's... It was pretty good. The

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sprinting off of the field away from

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the camera at halftime of one of these

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games. I think we also have... I

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have not seen yet Randy Johnson

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as a bird. The best costume

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I've seen, Dad. Randy Johnson beside a bird.

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It's a couples costume. The big unit. I'm

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Braxton Garrett, if you were wondering, on

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a Saturday. This Randy Johnson costume's

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the best I've seen. Yeah. He

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killed a bird once. Yeah. That wins the day so

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far. What are you, Dan? I

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am the patriarchy. Oh. Oh, so you're Ken. That's right.

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Oh, you're not going to see that anywhere else. I'm

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sure that's going to be everywhere. And somehow

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I won the contest here in the room

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what now? No,

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ghost of Iowa's offense pass and

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babushka lion there there wanted to

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that can't be true Everyone's doing

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can also did you not get the memo from

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sag you're being a scab right now? Mm-hmm.

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I did not get that memo. Did you give

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yourself first prize? Well, it's

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just look look at what the room I'm

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in It's not

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working the road you're doing you're doing ten Lucy

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easy first place babushka the lion

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second I'll take second

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Understand your costume the ears are

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in front Look

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yeah, you're right. Hey, what do you expect your lions?

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Where are your ears? They're on the side of your

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head You're no lion. I'm gonna

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have difficulty the entirety of this

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show trying to keep the

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Ear earphones on with the cowboy

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hat that is too small for my head

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And too high on my head looks great

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And I'm unlikely to keep Stu got his attention

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at any point today because he's distracted by

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NFL trade deadline stuff deadline

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day There was

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a big one there was a train they out of

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there's a train the NBA last night James

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Harden got traded and many of us learned

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that two or three players in that deal

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were still in the NBA I

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knew only because I saw a box score earlier

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this year when when Kawhi Leonard

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was banging on the floor Angry because Russell

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Westbrook took the last shot with two seconds

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left I just looked at the box score and I realized

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that but tomb was still in the league He

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was in this trade last night

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who else was in this true Marcus Morris and

5:47

Robert Covington Really

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drove it home. How does James Harden always

5:52

get his way? How does he always

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get his way because he does messy without

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caring about who he's offending? more

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than anybody else. But can

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I do like the play the Miami Heat victim?

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Damien Liller didn't get his way. And

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the reports were true. Initially you got killed for

6:09

calling it a spite deal. It was a spite deal. They

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said that they were gonna send them to Miami,

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but then the agents started acting in a way

6:17

that made them say, no Miami, not

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at all. We're just gonna make this a spite

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deal. James Harden's agent is

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amazing. Why didn't the Sixers treat

6:26

the Clippers the way Portland treated

6:28

us? Cause didn't he

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say he wanted to go to the Clippers? Yeah, well, I guess part

6:32

of it is there were no other takers

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for James Harden. I thought that was the thing for us too. But

6:37

there were very clearly other takers.

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He's in Milwaukee and Brooklyn was also in

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it. And the agent after being

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told there's a hard line, we're not sending them to Miami,

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the agent started working other teams.

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It's just, it is crazy that

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James Harden is going

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to be remembered as this malcontent that is

6:56

never happy and never wants to stick around as force

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more trades and all the other superstars. You wanted an

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MVP. Combined, I understand. I'm agreeing

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with you by the way. But part of his legacy is

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he forced more trades, he requested

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more trades than all the other superstars of his era

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combined. And he got his way every

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single time. And now the Clippers

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become even more interesting. They

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have Kawhi Leonard, they have Paul George, they have Russell Westbrook

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and they have James Harden. I keep thinking they're

7:22

going to be interesting and they haven't

7:24

been interesting. They have not been

7:26

a legitimate contender. The most exciting

7:29

that team was, was the day they surprised

7:32

us with the trade for Kawhi Leonard,

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the move that got Kawhi Leonard and

7:36

Paul George. They haven't had a more interesting

7:39

day since then than that

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one. But now they add a bunch of components

7:44

together that you're like, how does this

7:46

work? If already I've seen more emotion

7:48

from Kawhi Leonard at the end of the game because

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Russell Westbrook in a panic situation

7:53

was just grabbing an offensive rebound doing

7:55

a turnaround air ball jumper. You

7:57

got more emotion from Kawhi Leonard at

7:59

the end. end of that game, then you saw when

8:02

he beat the Sixers with one of the most dramatic

8:04

shots in playoff history. He

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just stood there, no reaction really. I

8:10

don't know, actually he had fallen

8:12

onto the floor at that point, so he

8:15

wasn't standing there. Yeah,

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but he didn't do much. I mean, act like it was a big shot, it

8:19

was a big shot. He didn't seem like he

8:21

was too thrilled with it. You don't

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remember. I don't. You're just

8:25

faking it. It's just the why though. You're just

8:28

faking it. It's just the why though. You don't have any recollection

8:30

of what you're talking about. I'm lying. You

8:32

had him standing up. You

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didn't get anything. That's the way I remember it, Dan. You didn't

8:37

get anything right. It's your personal

8:39

truth. Thank you. Stu Gatz gets

8:41

paid to be unprepared and it's the only thing

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he takes seriously. Thank

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you. The Miami

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Heat have started the season one and three.

8:53

Jimmy Butler doesn't play the fourth quarter

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last night. Milwaukee smokes

8:57

them, but the Heat made it a little closer

9:00

once Jimmy Butler left the game. Bam,

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did not play in the basketball

9:05

game. And I'm just assuming at

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this point that everyone who's

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listening to this based on last season understands

9:12

that there's just going to be a bunch of missed

9:15

games from players on the Miami

9:17

Heat that they're going to just,

9:20

they're going to take this regular season as

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something that allows them to just get

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into the playoffs if they can get into the playoffs,

9:26

but they're not going to be worried about much else. Is it

9:28

possible they're just resting everyone up for the big

9:30

mid-season tournament? That

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was weird not to put them back in that game last night.

9:36

Like I get it. You ride the hot hand for most

9:39

of that fourth quarter, but that run kind of ran

9:41

out with like three or four minutes left. And I

9:43

thought you were like within six or seven there. All

9:45

right. You let these guys do their run. Now put Jimmy

9:47

back. At least Jimmy, maybe if you leave the rest, it was just

9:49

weird seeing Jimmy just sit there. What

9:52

about those bucks? Last

9:54

year they gave some games away. Giannis

9:57

not wanting to go to the free throw line. I know after

9:59

he air balled one. He started making

10:01

them at the line But they kind of give the

10:03

feeling that they're gonna do that a lot

10:05

in the fourth quarter and let teams back into

10:07

it When they shouldn't mind he had a really good

10:09

look from Tyler hero who ended up

10:11

having a good game But he's got to bury that wide

10:14

open three to cut it to a two possession

10:16

game There was a shot there.

10:18

Joe bitch was playing well But this

10:21

is a frustrating start and I understand what

10:23

Dan is doing by saying well It'll

10:25

just be like last year, but they're worse

10:27

than last year They you're

10:30

you're hoping that guys like Joe bitch and maybe

10:33

Tyler heroes a finished product Maybe he's not

10:35

but you got to keep hoping that guys Ascended

10:37

and continue to develop to be able

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to improve year over year right

10:42

now if we're just looking at additions and subtractions

10:44

I know gave Vincent's off to all so hold on this

10:46

truce is playing Well, let me stop you for a second

10:49

when you just say they're worse

10:51

than last year. They are well You

10:54

think so because they've lost truce and

10:56

Vincent who weren't critical players

10:58

a couple of years ago I'm assuming

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and I think this is a fair assumption to make

11:03

seen Joe which play you've seen Juan

11:05

quick play I'm assuming that

11:07

they'll be able to replace it Caleb Martin's not

11:09

even playing that much this year like these guys Caleb

11:13

Martin was important during the playoffs,

11:16

but you weren't expecting anything

11:18

from him before he signed that contract I

11:22

understand they made it to the NBA Finals a preface

11:24

that and I was way wrong about them

11:26

last year there were one point win away from

11:29

being owned for this year and They

11:32

got it. They were 30 minutes away from being eliminated

11:34

in the play in by Chicago last year I think meeting

11:37

this season with scrutiny is fair 100% I

11:41

mean it's not just failing to get

11:43

lillard and they did fail to get him I

11:45

mean you can talk about a spike deal

11:48

or whatever But bottom line is if

11:50

Miami makes more of an offer and includes hero

11:52

lillard's here right now And they're a much better team

11:54

not to mention a more exciting team because the

11:56

heat aren't very exciting right now Not the bottom line

11:59

the Portland wasn't dealing with Miami.

12:01

Like that's not the bottom line. But it's both is that. That

12:03

is part of Miami's fault for how they handle the

12:05

situation. Okay. Fair enough. Fair enough.

12:08

And what Mike is saying that it's fair

12:10

to bring scrutiny. Of course it's fair to bring scrutiny.

12:12

What is not fair to do after four games is

12:14

say that you know they're worse than last year when

12:16

they were in 8 seed last year. Like I

12:18

don't know that they're worse after four games.

12:21

I can't make that determination yet. Are the teams

12:23

that they're chasing better? Yes. Undeniably.

12:25

A lot better. Yes. That goes into it. Because

12:28

Caleb's been out and Josh Richardson just

12:30

came back for the first game last night. So they have. I'm

12:32

just saying. The names that you're mentioning. Dude.

12:35

They need to be pieces for them. But wait a minute. He said

12:37

the season hinging on Josh Richardson and

12:39

Caleb Martin is what I am worried about. You

12:41

just said Max Truce. No. Max Truce is gone. Like

12:44

these guys are all in the same realm that you're talking about

12:46

right now. Guys hold on a second. They're one and three. Mike

12:48

is and they're not as good. The roster is not as

12:50

good. Mike has every right to criticize what they did

12:52

in the off season and say they're not as good as they were last

12:55

year. I'm not saying. I'm not saying

12:57

he doesn't have the right to say it. I'm saying

12:59

after four games it's too

13:02

early to make that assessment as

13:04

if you know it when they weren't very good

13:06

last year. Like the entirety of

13:08

the season they weren't very good. Is

13:11

Jimmy looking good to you this season? Well

13:13

he doesn't play. How many games in can he say

13:16

it? Just because. Fourteen. Right. No

13:18

guys. Game 82. Because that's what it took

13:20

last year. I was saying it all last year and

13:22

with three minutes left against the Chicago

13:24

Bulls I was right. And

13:26

they went on this miraculous run and

13:29

yes any bit of analysis that

13:31

comes with talking about this Miami Heat team should

13:33

always mention that at any point because

13:36

they've proven it to you very recently they can get

13:38

hot and peek at the right time. But you

13:40

look at their roster and you're just kind

13:42

of hoping for some magic dust to be sprayed

13:45

on them and playoff Jimmy happens and

13:47

you can upset these teams that have gotten better since

13:49

then. You can obviously make

13:52

all of those assessments and

13:54

I would not call them unfair.

13:57

They believe their team is better.

14:00

deeper. I tend to, after

14:02

four games, give them that benefit

14:04

of the doubt until I have seen more.

14:07

That's what... they know more than I

14:10

do about this. You may indeed be

14:12

right. They don't look very good. I mean, the Detroit

14:14

win wasn't anything special. They

14:16

barely eked that out. Yeah, it fell apart once they

14:19

put the starters back in. There's

14:21

plenty cause for concern, but the good news is there's

14:23

a second trophy now that they can chase, and

14:25

maybe they were saving Jimmy's legs in that fourth

14:28

corner for the big Wizards play-in

14:30

game on Friday. Hey

14:32

everybody, happy football season. It's Mike,

14:34

and let me tell you what I do from kickoff to

14:36

the final whistle. I have a Miller Lite in my hand.

14:39

I just don't go wrong with it. I've learned

14:41

from experience. There is only one light beer

14:43

worthy of our national obsession, because

14:45

what's the point of having a beer if it doesn't taste like beer?

14:48

You don't want to spend any time while you're watching

14:50

football thinking about what you're drinking, and

14:52

with the dependable flavor of Miller Lite, you

14:54

know, you don't have to worry about it because it's only got 96 calories

14:57

and 3.2 carbs per 12-ounce serving,

15:00

with a smooth taste and a crisp clean finish.

15:02

You'll get all the taste that you crave without

15:04

the calories.

15:05

A light, less-filling beer that tastes great in football?

15:08

There's just no top in that, folks. At least not for

15:10

me. This season, do what I do. Crack

15:12

open a light beer that hits your taste buds so hard, you

15:14

feel it in your heart. Make it Miller

15:16

time all football season long.

15:18

Get Miller Lite delivered right to your door. Visit

15:20

MillerLite.com slash Dan, or you can find it

15:22

pretty much anywhere that sells beer. Celebrate responsibly.

15:25

Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories

15:28

and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.

15:32

Dan Levatard. I'm gonna get some golf

15:34

ASMR. Stoogatz. Oh,

15:37

f*** me. This is the Dan Levatard Show

15:40

with the Stoogatz. Oh. It

15:47

starts on Friday. It's a midseason

15:49

tournament. We're five games in. Well, the

15:52

finals... It's stupid, all of it. Yeah. Dumb.

15:54

You haven't... I don't like it. You haven't looked it

15:56

up once. No. No, my deal.

15:58

Give it 80 games, Stoogatz. I did look up the Kawhi

16:01

final shot. You know, he never hit the floor, damn.

16:04

It hit the front rim. He bent down.

16:06

You try to give it some body language, some English,

16:09

you know, like, get in. You know what you do, like, when you're

16:11

standing over a big puck, rank and it's right. He hit

16:13

the floor after Russell Westbrook. He

16:16

never hit the floor. Okay. Look

16:18

it up. I mean, I just did. Stugats. He

16:20

was happy, though. Stugats, you say you

16:23

don't like the play-in tournament. Go ahead

16:25

and give us any information that

16:27

you have on the play-in. It starts Friday. Ugly

16:29

court. The play-in tournament

16:32

is something different. Do you guys know anything about

16:34

the format? Do you know anything about the format?

16:36

No, no. Don't care. The

16:38

early portions of the tournament count against your regular

16:40

season standings. So like

16:43

they play the Wizards and it's essentially

16:45

a two competition game, the NBA regular season,

16:47

and also accounts for the mid-season tournament. The

16:49

late season portion of it doesn't

16:52

count towards your record? I think once you

16:54

get to like the Vegas portion,

16:56

it stops counting. Wouldn't you be incentivized to

16:58

lose this so you get more rest?

17:00

I don't, I mean, you win

17:02

it because you win money and you win a trophy. So

17:04

you're incentivized to play in it because you

17:07

get additional money in a trophy.

17:09

I'm not doing this. I

17:12

didn't even understand. Everyone wants rest

17:14

and you could just get more rest by not

17:16

advancing in the tournament. Why wouldn't you be incentivized

17:18

to win the tournament? We just seem

17:20

to talk about it and we just don't get anywhere

17:23

with it. It feels like we're having the same conversation

17:25

about the Miami Heat for these last four years and

17:28

they're a frustrating team. We'll say other teams

17:30

got it done continually. They're

17:33

getting the guys. You're saying continually other teams

17:35

get it done while the best team in the East

17:37

the last four years has been Miami. That's

17:40

what you're saying. They're a frustrating team to watch. They're

17:42

the best team in the East the last four years. An indictment

17:44

on the East. But the Eastern Conference

17:47

is weak again and they can probably

17:50

get away with that. The Panthers certainly can't. The

17:52

Panthers can't afford to rest guys. They

17:54

have to go for it every single night because it's

17:57

difficult to make the playoffs in the airport. just

18:00

kind of coached. As Pat Riley himself

18:02

has said, the Jimmy Butler era has been a

18:04

success but they haven't

18:06

gotten what they wanted. So it's fine

18:08

to reach the finals a couple of times but they're

18:11

far from that now. Nobody thinks they're

18:13

among the top tier anymore

18:15

and the NBA

18:17

is trying to make time

18:20

management a thing of the past, right? They're trying

18:22

to get their stars to play more and

18:24

now they're instituting this in-season tournament

18:26

to give players one more excuse not to play

18:29

in the regular season because they're resting for this mythical

18:32

ridiculous title. Is Bam Adebayo

18:35

in his physical prime tired after

18:37

three games that he couldn't play last

18:40

night against Milwaukee? Can that be possible?

18:42

Why isn't Bam Adebayo at age 26

18:45

or whatever not playing

18:47

in the biggest game of the early season? It was

18:50

the back. He wasn't in rest. He's a little

18:52

hurt. He's not one of the

18:54

guys who rest. Okay, is that hurt?

18:57

Is he hurt or was that an excuse not for

18:59

him to play? He was hurt. Jimmy wasn't. How

19:01

reckless are you being in there? Jimmy wasn't in Minnesota. No, I'm

19:03

asking. I mean, Pam doesn't have the injury

19:06

history where Jimmy

19:08

was definitely just let's rest him. Bam

19:11

doesn't sit games out. Let

19:15

me ask you a question about what

19:17

Giannis said the other day because this

19:20

caught me off guard. I was legitimately surprised

19:23

by this. Perhaps I shouldn't have been. Giannis,

19:26

and I don't know whether this was before or after he

19:28

signed the three-year $186 million

19:30

deal, just said flatly,

19:33

it's Damian Lillard's team. I

19:35

don't think very many champions

19:38

who have been the number one option on

19:40

a team would say that. And

19:42

I was just surprised that Giannis

19:45

offered that and I didn't know. Is he just being

19:47

humble superstar guy? Is

19:49

that authentic? Like I've what I've seen

19:52

from Giannis so far seems authentic,

19:54

but is he just saying the thing he thinks

19:56

we want to hear? Is he trying to

19:58

make a Damian Lillard Lillard feel acclimated

20:01

or does he? I think that's it. I think he's trying

20:03

to make Damian Lillard feel good. Giannis knows

20:05

very well that it's his team. That's his

20:07

organization. He knows that. I mean,

20:09

Lillard went there, I guess, in large

20:11

part because he couldn't get it done and because who wouldn't

20:13

want to play with Giannis? This is a quote from Giannis

20:17

five days ago after signing

20:19

his extension in which he also said, no,

20:21

I never forced the organization to give me this

20:23

extension. I never put any extra pressure

20:25

on that. We know that that's not

20:27

necessarily true. It's the first time in my

20:30

NBA career that I didn't know the number that

20:32

was attached to my contract. Yes, he's

20:34

doing the humble superstar

20:37

athlete thing when he's saying, Damian

20:39

Lillard, it's his team now. Right.

20:42

He's welcoming the veteran player to the

20:44

new city. That's the way I heard it. But

20:47

it's fine. It's a nice guy thing. He's

20:50

a superstar that stayed. He's a loyal guy

20:52

and he's just playing the part. But none of you guys

20:54

were surprised by it then. You just... I

20:57

don't believe him. That's fine. He

20:59

can say that. He's

21:01

surprised he lied. Who

21:03

do you think is going to be taking the shots at the end of the

21:06

game? I think Giannis is going to be dying for

21:08

Damian Lillard to take the shots at the end.

21:10

That's why they brought him on there. And

21:12

the most recent basketball I've seen from Giannis

21:15

would suggest that at the end of games he doesn't

21:17

necessarily want to go to the free throw line with good

21:20

reason. And Damian Lillard can be

21:22

your closer. That's why they went out and got him. You can be

21:24

the closer of the team and not be

21:26

the face of the team. Are there a lot of examples

21:28

of that? Are there a lot of examples... Yeah, Chris Middleton.

21:31

Chris Middleton, same deal. They would go

21:33

to Chris Middleton to close games before. But

21:36

he would never say that Chris Middleton, that it's

21:38

Chris Middleton's team. No, Damian that comes

21:40

in as one of the top 100 players in league's history. I

21:45

mean, he's got to say all the nice things about

21:47

him. Is there another player

21:49

off of the top of your head? Because you've caught me

21:51

off guard with the saying of that,

21:54

where it's your team. We all

21:56

think it's your team, but somebody else is doing

21:58

the closing. Like that doesn't

22:01

strike me as something I have seen a whole

22:03

lot that I can remember the

22:05

history of that sport. Yeah, Shaq and Kobe,

22:08

it usually comes with guys that are a liability at

22:10

the free throw line. Right. That, you

22:12

know, the other teams got to resort to fouling

22:14

that person at the end of the game and you need someone on the

22:16

perimeter that you have faith in, Shaq and Kobe. And

22:18

it dissolved that relationship

22:20

because it ceased being Shaq's team once

22:23

you started deferring more and more to Kobe at the end. With

22:25

the Spurs, didn't Manu and Tony

22:27

Parker get the ball late? That's great. Jenoble

22:29

was coming off the bench and he

22:31

was closing games for them. But

22:34

Duncan was the closer, wasn't he? I mean... I

22:36

just said Jenoble was coming off the bench closing games.

22:38

Like you need somebody on the perimeter. Duncan was a much

22:40

better free throw shooter than Shaq ever was. But

22:45

you usually see it with poor free throw shooters.

22:47

The game last night with the Panthers

22:50

and the Bruins, do you suffer

22:52

early season losses? You go up to

22:55

nothing. You lose in overtime. You

22:58

got to be happy getting a point

23:00

against Boston on the road. Most dangerous

23:02

lead in sports, up to zero. And

23:05

you could have handed Boston their first

23:07

regulation loss. Boston comes back, force

23:10

overtime, then win it after. You probably

23:12

should have put a goal away and it leads to a breakaway. But

23:14

for me, the crushing part about last

23:16

night's game is it's a regular season

23:19

game. You're kind of happy. Not a

23:21

lot. Only one other team has gotten points off Boston this season

23:23

was Sam Bennett finally comes back

23:25

into the team and

23:27

then immediately gets hurt and it looked

23:30

bad. It looked like it might be...

23:32

We'll get word on it, but just from watching

23:34

it, tell me if I'm wrong Chris, it looked like

23:36

that could be a season ender for Sam Bennett

23:38

and Sam Bennett was immense for this

23:41

team in its postseason runs the last few

23:43

years. He's one of those guts guys that you

23:45

trust. He gets under the opposing

23:47

team scan. He can get a dirty goal for you. That

23:50

is a huge blow if they lose Sam Bennett for an extended

23:52

period of time considering that they're already pretty banged up. On

23:55

the bright side, Bob looks decent. He

23:57

had some good saves late in the game. You're

24:00

not going to get a feel for this Panthers team until Montor

24:02

and Ekblad get back. But I saw yesterday that they're

24:05

going to try to sign Montor and Forsling,

24:07

which is encouraging because those guys have really

24:09

been our defensemen. Can we discuss for

24:12

just a second though because I don't

24:15

think we should become numb to

24:17

it even though it gets said all

24:20

the time in sports to guys. What

24:22

Mike Ryan files as banged

24:25

up would keep all of us out

24:27

of work. The injury report after

24:30

the Panther season last year and they had less

24:32

time to rest than most. The injury

24:34

report when you read all of those

24:37

guys and they had like a single

24:39

healthy torso on the entire roster

24:42

by the end of the season. When

24:44

we say the 49ers are

24:46

banged up and they go from looking like

24:48

the best team in the league to pretty looking like

24:51

he can't play because he's had three injuries in 15 days.

24:56

I mentioned this the other day, Bosa

24:59

has a broken toe, a broken

25:02

big toe. He's not using and

25:04

the need to generate all your force from the Panther. The

25:08

needles on the foot are really, really

25:11

awful. He's not doing pain medication.

25:13

It seems like a hard way to do that

25:16

job when a 350 pound person

25:18

steps on that foot with

25:20

its cleats. It should be noted that Paul Maurice

25:22

said Sam Bennett was walking around

25:25

after but what does that mean?

25:27

He's a hockey player. He can be walking around after.

25:30

What does banged up mean? What does

25:32

banged up mean? He's a hockey player.

25:35

What does their injured mean? I don't

25:37

know. It looked bad when you watch it but would it

25:39

surprise me if he plays the very next game? No,

25:41

hockey players are crazy. Yeah, they're nuts. I

25:43

noted it.

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26:48

Don Libotard. Many of you, by

26:50

the way, are writing in and you're saying,

26:52

Dan, quit being so

26:55

mean to co-hosts that you always

26:57

deem incompetent. That's the

26:59

formula, man. Me being mean

27:02

to the co-host is what allows

27:04

Stu Gatz to take a very wealthy vacation

27:06

right now. Stu Gatz, it's a winning

27:09

position for everyone but me. Haven't you

27:11

guys not figured this out yet? That's

27:13

the whole thing, is me being rotten straight,

27:15

man, as everyone else gets to be incompetent,

27:17

then I yell at them for being incompetent. And

27:19

here's the miracle of it. It's the magic elixir.

27:22

Bad, which is the only thing Greg Cody can

27:24

be, becomes good and lovable. And it's

27:26

because standing next to obnoxious, strident

27:29

me makes everyone look that way. And

27:31

the brush with death helped. Yeah, that was planned

27:34

by me. The whole thing was contrived. This is the

27:36

Don Libotard Show with the

27:38

Stu Gatz. How

27:46

dare you point out that there are going to be

27:48

kens all over the place when that

27:50

is your costume today. And you put

27:53

that little effort into what you

27:55

were doing today. A

27:57

nice hat is what it is that

27:59

you're wearing. Is your Halloween costume

28:02

right I have a four-year-old that reserved

28:04

the dressing up for her like I have Yeah,

28:08

exactly Not lost

28:10

on me that I mean, I know you're a fork in the

28:12

road at lazy creativity But

28:15

you know sue has his kids out of the house. Yeah,

28:17

Greg has his kids out of the house I got

28:19

a whole thing tonight. I'm saving myself

28:22

for that name is Billy. Thank you.

28:24

What are you guys? What are you guys doing tonight?

28:26

Buzz light your every night for the last two

28:28

weeks and tonight? I'm gonna be Buzz Lightyear again.

28:30

So forgive me if for one day at work.

28:32

I don't want to be Buzz Lightyear I dress up

28:35

every day at work as someone who's happy. I'm

28:37

gonna be blue his dad What are

28:39

you going to be tonight? Mike Jack

28:41

the pumpkin King? my

28:43

daughter's gonna be Sally now my dogs could

28:45

be zero and My wife

28:47

got stuck with boogie woogie, man Stu

28:50

Gats do you miss? wandering around

28:52

your neighborhood getting drunk on gin and tonics

28:55

while the kids run around and They

28:57

have to drag daddy home at the end of the night.

28:59

What makes you think I'm not gonna do it without

29:02

the kids You're

29:04

just gonna want you're just gonna be an adult wandering

29:06

the neighborhood by yourself with a drink I'm

29:08

gonna get the golf cart a big G&T

29:11

little jitted. No, you're not gonna do that. What

29:13

do you mean? I'll be will drive will drive

29:15

around the neighborhood and you know Andrew

29:17

brunette video I know Abby will drive

29:20

a little G&T big cop Flanagan's

29:22

Cup and Probably a gummy. I

29:24

mean I'm looking forward to it Didn't

29:27

I didn't Bill Murray also get arrested

29:29

for a DUI on a golf cart He

29:31

might have was it a golf cart or a lawnmower

29:34

like horse was it a horse horse? I

29:38

think you can get a DUI on all of those

29:40

things I'm pretty sure you can the

29:43

the country singer George Jones once got

29:45

arrested for DUI on a riding lawnmower

29:48

And no more and needless to say

29:50

wrote a song about it. Bill Murray Got

29:53

a DUI charge on

29:55

a golf cart. Yes Can

29:58

you just look out for me? DUI on a horse

30:01

and see what comes up. I'd like to find

30:03

like ... It happened to someone. You're right. It

30:05

must have. Certainly, it must have

30:07

happened to someone. It happened in Florida.

30:10

Yeah, of course. A 53-year-old woman was arrested on charges

30:13

of DUI on a horse and animal neglect.

30:16

This was in 2017. Oh. Lucy,

30:19

I know we've got some video from

30:21

the world's largest cocktail party.

30:24

Georgia has fixed all the things that ailed

30:26

Georgia when they were scoring three points at the

30:28

half against South Carolina, whatever

30:30

it is that was working. Before we

30:32

go to that video later in the show, can you

30:35

tell me about your experience up

30:37

there? Was it better than most?

30:40

That's supposed to be a bigger party than the average

30:42

college football party.

30:43

Yeah, it was far and away the best tailgate I

30:45

have ever been to in my life. I have a feeling

30:48

I don't think we're going to top it again. Everyone

30:50

was so drunk, Florida fans especially

30:53

more drunk, but it was something unique because

30:55

when we went to Texas Oklahoma, there wasn't a ton of

30:57

tailgating, but even at the state fair, there

30:59

was no intermingling between Texas

31:01

and Oklahoma fans. They did not talk to each other.

31:04

It was very weird. Florida, Georgia, everyone

31:06

was just having a good time. Everyone

31:09

was drinking. Florida knew what was going to happen. Georgia knew what was going to

31:11

happen, so they were going to enjoy the tailgate, and then Florida

31:13

fans would leave at halftime.

31:13

You don't think Florida thought that perhaps

31:16

by some miracle, they'd do the same thing at

31:18

home that they did to Tennessee? It

31:21

was in Jacksonville. It's always had a neutral sight

31:23

then. Yeah.

31:24

Georgia has pretty much owned the series as of

31:26

late. I think it's five straight years of winning

31:28

this. Florida fans were not. The really

31:31

drunk ones were very optimistic. The slightly

31:33

drunk ones were

31:33

like, yeah, we know what's going to happen. They

31:35

were up 7-0 now. Yeah, that was sick. That

31:37

was electrical. I know. That was

31:39

so cool. We

31:41

spent a lot of time before the college football

31:44

season talking about how

31:47

it seemed like some things had

31:49

evened up. And here is

31:51

Georgia not losing, and there

31:53

don't look to be a whole lot of other super

31:56

teams. I mean, it's Alabama.

32:00

Looks good. They've had a weaker, they're

32:02

going to enter a stronger part of the schedule and

32:04

they might have been cheating this entire time and we don't know what

32:06

kind of advantages they got, but Michigan does look

32:08

good. It's really odd that no one ever says Florida

32:10

State. Florida State's good. Yeah, number four.

32:13

It's because the games against Boston College and

32:15

Clemson were so close. People are, you've

32:17

got to have those over the course of the season that

32:19

you're going to need to survive. Washington's just survived

32:21

it in back-to-back weeks and they still feel

32:23

pretty good about their undefeated season. For Florida State,

32:26

it just so happened to happen really early

32:28

in the season, so it tainted everybody's

32:30

perspective of them. I don't know if

32:33

they look like a team that's going to run

32:35

the table and finish with an undefeated season,

32:37

but they've got a crap load of talent.

32:39

They're good.

32:40

It happens this time every single college

32:42

football season where it just starts to

32:44

naturally separate itself, where teams

32:46

that have played really, really well start to struggle, like Washington.

32:49

And teams that may have not looked as good in the beginning

32:51

of the season, like Georgia, start to excel. It's

32:53

just sort of the natural order of things,

32:56

and it's the perfect time where the PAC-12 starts

32:58

to cannibalize itself. We understand that Michigan's the best team

33:00

in the Big Ten. I can't imagine

33:02

the college football playoff rankings that we see tonight are

33:04

going to be too crazy different than what we see in a few weeks.

33:07

What I'm interested in with the college football

33:10

playoff rankings and with the Heisman Trophy

33:12

voting is you have the human element

33:14

in all of this. And what kind of bias

33:17

is Michigan going to be met with?

33:20

Because everything that is swirling

33:22

around that program, and at this point there's at

33:24

least three things. And I think

33:26

it's going to hurt McCarthy's Heisman

33:29

campaign. I really do. And I think that

33:31

you're going to see voters lashing out at them

33:34

because this isn't computers making the decision. But

33:36

Mike, if they were on the table, beat Ohio State,

33:38

win the Big Ten championship game, Mike. They will, but... You

33:41

can't keep them out. You can't keep them out. Look,

33:43

the Big Ten, I think, has autonomy here when

33:46

it comes to what the NCAA can do

33:48

in terms of punishment. But I do think that

33:50

the NCAA is going to take this opportunity

33:52

to make an example out of Michigan because this

33:55

is one of those things that is fairly easy

33:57

to get people on its side. involved

34:00

with NIL and recruiting, you'd face

34:02

a mass rebellion, not just from the fan base, which is new,

34:05

because the fans would always want the NCAA

34:07

to come down on these programs that were paying players. But

34:09

now in this new age, you're gonna have

34:11

just schools threaten the NCAA.

34:14

You come after us, we're gonna take away your easy

34:16

money. But this is something easy

34:18

for new leadership in the NCAA to drop a hammer

34:21

down and get everybody's support behind.

34:23

I know that Michigan has looked good

34:25

early in this season, but none of you would be surprised

34:28

if Ohio State beat Michigan. I

34:30

mean, I'm anticipating, I mean, anticipating

34:33

both. It's hard to go undefeated

34:36

in the Big 10. And I think the resumes,

34:38

certainly that Ohio State is put up, Ohio

34:40

State can survive a loss in

34:43

the regular season and still be in a mix for

34:45

a CFP. We all know the conference that's going,

34:47

if there's a one loss team from a Power Five conference,

34:50

we all know that that conference that's going to be shut

34:52

out is going to be the ACC. I

34:54

want to talk about ACC scheduling

34:56

through 2030 in a second,

34:59

but outside of maybe

35:01

Marvin Harrison, have you guys seen a better

35:04

receiver than FSU's Keon Coleman? Washington

35:08

has two good ones. Yeah. But Keon

35:10

Coleman, I mean, just passes

35:12

the eye test. Did he have two one-handed

35:15

grabs last week? It's not just that, it's just,

35:17

yes. That's a Mel Tucker recruit, by the way. When

35:20

he's got a defensive back pasted

35:22

to him, he still catches the ball because

35:24

he's just, he's a basketball body out there.

35:26

They have really good receivers. Wilson's also really good. I

35:29

like their tight end. Travis has been around

35:31

since the Obama administration, it seems

35:33

like. That's a team that you'd want to trust. However,

35:36

can you trust an ACC team to finish

35:38

a season undefeated? You look

35:40

at that, at that schedule, you could

35:42

argue that maybe the harder part of their schedule

35:44

is over, but they do have two rivalry games. One

35:47

of them is actually at Florida, Miami,

35:50

in terms of the trenches. They haven't been

35:52

blown out really this season just yet.

35:54

That's a rivalry game, so maybe that's

35:57

the the conference loss that they get. I don't think it's gonna be

35:59

a pit.

35:59

Are you going to be attacking the ACC championship game?

36:02

I

36:02

don't know. We don't know. That's

36:04

so ACC. This year, if you're

36:07

an ACC fan, you see the head-to-head

36:09

splits and it's not going to matter. The

36:12

ACC's record against the Big Ten and the SEC

36:14

is good this year and it's not going to

36:17

matter whatsoever when it comes to deciding

36:19

who gets into this college football playoff. An undefeated

36:22

FSU should be in the top four. I

36:24

think we all expect that today. But if they

36:26

drop one game here, the

36:28

ACC's reputation of cannibalizing itself

36:31

is going to come back to haunt them. No

36:33

one's going to care that you have a good record against the other Power

36:35

Fives.

36:36

That LSU win, really great at

36:38

the time, doesn't feel as good now. LSU's defense

36:40

is horrendous. The Duke win, good

36:42

at the time. Riley Litton didn't play for most of that

36:44

game. Florida State, I think,

36:46

has passed the eye test, but the schedule doesn't

36:48

feel as strong as it once did.

36:50

But, Lucy, that changes. If LSU

36:52

beats Alabama this weekend, suddenly that becomes

36:54

a better win. It does, right. Yeah, LSU's

36:56

defense is so bad that I really do not think they're

36:58

going to beat Alabama. They are very, very

36:59

bad. FSU's already

37:01

had the luck that you need to make a season special.

37:04

With the Boston College Penalty Fest

37:07

that happened earlier this season, with the missed kick

37:09

against Clemson and the return for

37:12

a touchdown by their defense, they

37:14

already kind of survived these. And

37:17

every, I don't care who you are, you could be the most dominant

37:19

team. There are moments in a season where you're

37:21

like, okay, we had luck on our side. Even

37:24

if you're a national champion, and they've already had that

37:26

luck. Lucy, at the Florida-Georgia game,

37:28

what was, who was

37:31

there in Mass more? Was

37:33

it Georgia or Florida? Like, whose fandom

37:35

did you feel more?

37:36

I would say it was

37:38

55-45 more Georgia fans, but

37:40

it was pretty even most of the time. Georgia

37:43

fans are insanely loud, insanely passionate.

37:46

It's hard not to hear, you know, 35,000 people

37:48

all barking at you at the same time. That was

37:50

an insane experience. It was like

37:52

both fan bases showed out really well, but I would

37:55

say more

37:55

Georgia fans. We'll get to that

37:57

video from Lucy in a second, but what

37:59

did you find out? interesting about the ACC

38:01

schedule through 2030. The fact that they think they're

38:04

gonna be around in 2030? No way! Miami's traveling 3,000

38:07

miles to Cal Berkeley

38:10

which is someone that travels quite a bit with the

38:12

football teams. I'm excited. Going to Bourbon Trails

38:15

and Wine Country with this road.

38:17

Nice stop for you. With

38:20

this road schedule. I think for me that the thing

38:22

that I'm happiest about, I was really

38:24

confused when it came, the ACC made

38:26

this rule that you'll get three permanent rivals

38:29

and you'll play those permanent rivals every year. And

38:31

Miami's permanent rivals were FSU, makes

38:34

all the sense in the world. Boston College? Okay

38:36

we were in the Big East with them and there

38:39

was the Flutey Bomb okay

38:42

and Louisville which they're playing

38:44

a trophy. They're playing for a trophy. The Howard

38:46

Snellenberger trophy. It's

38:50

bronze cowboy boots and

38:52

that one didn't make any sense. They

38:54

were, yeah I guess Big

38:57

East ties were, I think they were in the Big East in

38:59

the same time for a brief period and then

39:02

they moved to the ACC together. That

39:04

made no sense. Cowboy boots. Yeah

39:06

it should have been a Muhammad Ali, Cassius Clay

39:08

type of thing or if you're gonna bronze

39:10

anything of Howard Snellenberger, make it a pipe.

39:13

Yeah that makes more sense.

39:16

One thing that I was upset about with that

39:18

ruling and very confused about was okay North

39:20

Carolina feels like that's been a budding rivalry

39:23

but they have so many tobacco road rivals. I get why that

39:25

call was made. Why isn't Virginia Tech one

39:27

of our permanent rivals? That has been a 25 year

39:29

rivalry. The

39:32

games are good. They always mean something.

39:34

Virginia Tech was pissed about it and what

39:36

happened with this schedule drop was Virginia

39:38

Tech went from not being worthy of being

39:40

one of Miami's three permanent rivals to making

39:43

the cut for two and now Miami will play

39:45

Virginia Tech every year. So the

39:47

thing that Virginia Tech made about not playing Miami

39:49

worked. Virginia Tech and Miami are

39:51

the best chances to beat FSU in the regular

39:53

season because it's not gonna be pit. Well

39:56

Virginia Tech doesn't play them in the regular season. You're

39:58

gonna have to wait till Charlotte for that. That one ends.

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