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Hello, Matthew. Hey, Matt.
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Matthew. Matthew,
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Chuckie, Matthew. Chuck, Matthew. Chuckie,
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are you there? Can
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you hear me? What's
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up, guys? Oh,
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I would die for you. I would
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die for you. This is embarrassing. All right,
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back off from the microphone. All of this is embarrassing.
1:44
We've got a genuine bona
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fide hockey superstar. South
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Florida is falling in love with him because he gets the dirty
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goals. And
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I thank you for your service, but
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also I want to reprimand the- Yes,
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thank you for your service. Yes. I
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want a very brave way of doing it. It is
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brave. It is brave. Yeah, especially against the
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Bruins. Isn't that a forecheck? They blew up their rockets.
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Red Claire! They blew up their blueprint
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to get this guy. Because this guy knows how
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to play off hockey. He
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gets you dirty goals. You guys aren't going to embarrass
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me though by not being a journalistic entity
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when we talk to him, correct? Oh, shut the hell up,
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Dan Lebitt Tarn. KATOKE YOU'RE THE BAAAAAAAT!
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Let's go to Flaney's brother!
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How do you pronounce your name? Matthew
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Brandon Kachuk. I told you, you didn't
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believe me. Jonathan
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Ziazlo said it was pronounced Kachuk
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and we're like, I've never heard that. They don't
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say that in the arena. They don't say that to
2:44
Matthew's dad. I've never heard anyone
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say Kachuk.
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It's not really a question. He's just shouting
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at you. Have you heard someone? Is Zazlo
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making this up? No one in the family history
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has corrected you. You've been pronouncing your name
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wrong all your both generations of
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hockey lives. Oh no, it sounds
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pretty good to me. I just tell everyone T
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silent and however you pronounce it,
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it's good for us.
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How surprised are you by what is presently
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happening? It seemed unclear that you were
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going to make the playoffs at all. I
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don't think necessarily
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surprised. To be quite honest,
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we just come to the rink today. Today's a practice
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day. Enjoy it out there. Have
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some fun. Lots of laughs. Prepare
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ourselves. Get a workout in.
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Go home. Do everything we can
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to be ready for the game tomorrow and go in and try to win. It's
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not really surprising what's going
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on. It's just a lot of fun. We're
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not really treating this as a series either.
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We know we're ahead, but we're coming in
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tomorrow and we're trying to win. It's
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really a simple, very simple plan we
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have for it for us. It's just been
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a ton of fun on the bench. We're just trying to really enjoy
3:54
it all.
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Sam Bennett almost stole your signature move
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in game three with the between the legs shot.
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it is it like everybody's
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playing loose everybody's relaxed this
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is the playoffs like this is a high
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pressure situation
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are you guys relaxed yeah
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for sure I mean he went he went through the legs
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with two or three minutes left in a playoff
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game when I was tired like I think that just shows you
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everything right there like we're just trying
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I mean it was probably the best way he could have tried
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to score or going maybe great save but like
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that's just our team right now like we're having fun like
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we're all but the the people were critical about
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it being too flashy for that game situation
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I think as somebody
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I've scored a few of those before sometimes that's
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the best way and the only way to score so.
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I don't.
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I think that was the good it was a good
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move. How much fun is it playing
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on this line with Benny and Nick Cousins
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because anytime you guys get on the ice
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I feel like you're just dominating the other line.
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Yeah it's fun like we all have a similar mindset
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I wouldn't say it were similar players but we think
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at the same way like when we don't have
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the puck we're going to be a dog on the bone to get
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it back like we're hunting the four
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check we're
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trying to get back as fast as possible we're
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trying to I
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know we're playing against great players on the other team
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we're trying to limit everything that they have and like
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not just limit them but we're trying to score
5:15
and trying to produce as well so we're
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trying to finish their deal like it is when it when
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it comes to playoffs like you got to remember it's a series
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too so
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like what you do in game one and game
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two and game three and game four like we saw in the
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Boston series like everything our line
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did or our team did like it
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seemed to keep evolving evolving
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and then you see it for the game seven
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you see it like happening game seven
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where maybe there's D those D don't want to go back
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for pucks in overtime which led to the goal so
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it's stuff like that and I think that's kind
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of the identity of our team and the identity of our
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line right now. So you've had a rep
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a reputation entering this season as someone that
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gets under the skin of opposing players and I think
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the Boston series was a good example you're mixing
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it up with the goalie over there.
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and carrying over this season and specifically
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that Boston series, it almost looked like Toronto
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went out of their way to put bodies on
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you very early on to try to set a tone.
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Did you feel like they were doing something a little different, like you were
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starting to pay for stuff that you did the previous series?
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I'm not sure. I know that teams make adjustments
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and stuff, but
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I don't think like that hasn't been what
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Toronto is doing all year, so if they want to do it now, I think
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that like just kind of works to our advantage.
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So we'll see what happens in the game tomorrow,
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but the both series
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have been challenging. Both are great teams, but
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if Toronto, if they change up their game for
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that, I think that works to our advantage. So
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playoffs are all about the little advantages that you can create,
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and it starts with your play on the ice, and
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like you brought up the chirping.
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I mean, that just happens in playoffs
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and what guys say, which is just
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kind of what happens. So
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it's intense, and when the stakes
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get higher and higher, everybody wants to win
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that much more. Yeah, and you kind of live for that
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stuff too. You can see that you're kind of enjoying
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it, and for whatever reason, you can almost
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point to that moment is where things kind of turned
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in that previous series with Boston. Something
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that I can't really describe well
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is the absence of something, and everyone expected
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the core four of Toronto to
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continue to be a match up problem, like they've historically
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been for damn near everyone in the NHL.
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I'm not asking for industry secrets here, but
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what are you doing to neutralize those
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four guys in particular?
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It's almost unrecognizable.
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Well, they're unreal players, and they have
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been since they've been in the league, and since they've
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all been on Toronto together, and have
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kind of provided problems for everybody they've played against
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and continue to do for us. Like, there are
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real threats out there, but
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for us to shut down those guys and their team,
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we have to do it. Like, there's not just one D-pair
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or one center man. Like, everybody
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has to play together, and like all
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five guys, I just have to be close together and support
7:55
in case one of those guys, like they're great one-on-one
7:57
players. So, say, you know,
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one of their guys beats me, like I need Benny
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there to be covering for me. And then if something happens like
8:04
Kuzi needs to be behind them or the D, like it's,
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it's, that's kind of been like the key our success
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too is, is like everybody
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is gelled and like playing to this
8:13
identity that's, that's hard to play. And so
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I think for them, they're unreal players and they'll
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continue to,
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to, you know, play the way that,
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you know, they have in their, in their careers
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in the series, those guys on Toronto. So it's up to
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us and a challenge for us to be able to stop them.
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Hopefully we can continue it tomorrow. Matthew, you
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know how hard it is to win playoff hockey.
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You know how tough these ridiculous,
8:36
insane human beings skating around on swords
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around you who are tougher than most
8:41
human beings. You know that
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it is really difficult
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to surpass the pain threshold to be
8:48
as great as you are at
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hockey. And through, I don't
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know how many of those teeth are real. I don't
8:54
know what happens to the human mouth during hockey
8:56
games, but I see you smiling. You
8:59
love that you're an asshole that bothered Boston.
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You love that. Like you're being all
9:03
polite hockey guy, but that team had
9:06
a historic record and you bothered
9:08
them because you're an irritant. You're
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annoying in front of the goals,
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dirty goals, dirty goals taught by
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your father. You're an asshole.
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It's delightful. I love you. Oh,
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I appreciate it. I guess. But
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I think that, I think that
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we, just talking about the Boston
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series,
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it was really refreshing for us to be able
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to,
9:29
we really did limp into the playoffs.
9:32
We won a lot to get in, but getting
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in by one point, as an 8C,
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that's playing to the bitter end. So I
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think when it came into the Boston series, we know
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they had 40 or 50 more points in us. We know
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they've had this record breaking season
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and all these great players that they have and
9:49
traded for at the trade deadline. They were
9:51
best team in the league. Right. And I think
9:53
what helped us out a lot is going
9:56
into that series at zero zero. Like
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there's no.
9:59
records anymore, there's
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nothing like it's all even and we can start from scratch
10:04
and we can start from this game and even
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though we lost game one I felt we played really
10:09
really well in the first bit of the game that I think
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surprised them in a sense like
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these guys aren't just like these guys are for
10:15
real like these guys are a playoff team and I
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think that's what helped us and just continue to wear
10:20
them down where I'm down where I'm down and ultimately got
10:22
that game seven win. What sparked you
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guys more for this late seat regular
10:26
season into the playoff push was it Maurice
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laying into you guys on the on
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the bench in Toronto or your dad
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calling the team soft on the radio?
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I'm gonna go
10:38
with I'm gonna go
10:40
with C I'll go with Lion King
10:42
coming in yeah yeah
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yeah
10:47
he he was unreal to
10:49
get us into the playoffs and played great at
10:51
the start and then obviously we know what Bob's done
10:53
since he's come back he's he's been our most
10:56
our best and most important player and
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can't say enough about both goalies they've been unreal. Bob
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Maurice said that the
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players have taken over the bench as in the
11:06
coaching staff doesn't have to make any adjustments the players
11:08
can react and adjust on the ice
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how important is it for a player like yourself
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to have that trust from the coaching
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staff?
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Very important I don't think it's just given and like that's
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earned and that's shown over the course of the year
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like this isn't I know we've been in the playoffs
11:23
for a couple weeks now but we've been playing playoff hockey
11:25
for months so like this isn't
11:27
all new to us like come to the rink and these must-wins
11:30
or the big-time games like this
11:32
is just how it is for us and how it's
11:34
been so you know
11:36
I think there's obviously they're back
11:38
there and when they see stuff they
11:40
let us know but I think when when
11:42
he says that I
11:44
think it speaks more of like
11:46
we know the type of hockey we have to play and
11:49
if there's a shift or two or three
11:51
or a few minutes span of us not playing
11:53
that like
11:54
we know that's not us and we're able to adjust
11:56
and get back to what's making us successful and
11:59
and I think that's been really good and we have a lot
12:01
of guys on the team that you
12:02
know that a mix of older guys and younger guys
12:04
but going through this like we've gained a
12:06
lot a lot of important like
12:09
valuable lessons this year that are hopefully
12:11
paying gonna pay off and have paid off to this point.
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Can you explain to me from a marketing standpoint
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and fame standpoint playing in this
12:18
market how famous are you locally
12:21
if you you'd be dominating Canada
12:23
in fame if you were doing this for Canadian teams
12:26
is the sport international enough that
12:28
your fame in South Florida translates to
12:30
you walking around okay or do people
12:32
bother you? No I
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can definitely walk around okay
12:37
down in Florida it's it's a it's different
12:39
than and how it was in Calgary
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for sure I mean like you're playing on a Tuesday
12:44
night and regular season in Calgary and you
12:46
know everybody knows who you are wherever you go afterwards
12:49
or you know
12:50
whatever but since we've
12:52
made this crazy run
12:55
and the more success we've had down
12:57
here like the second half of the year was a lot
12:59
different than the first half of the year for me and
13:01
then playoffs have taken a whole another so I actually
13:04
think that a lot a lot changed after
13:06
all-star game down here I think that was great
13:09
for
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the city the town like myself
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and Barkey
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and then through the run it's gotten a little bit crazy and
13:15
then ever since playoffs especially since the game
13:18
7-1 it's been it's been a lot
13:20
different. Well one of the delightful things that happens
13:22
in community around a team
13:24
like this that is being celebrated in that
13:26
region I remember this distinctly about
13:29
the last time this happened down here is all of a
13:31
sudden you're walking in everywhere and you're getting standing
13:33
ovations you are people
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are buying your meals is that something
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that's happening now down here have we not gotten
13:40
there yet?
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We got a meal the other day
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but I haven't I
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really haven't been out too much
13:48
during this I'm trying to try
13:50
and to do everything I can to
13:52
keep that focus but the
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other day for
13:56
for meal a few of us went out and we got it
13:58
paid for so
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That's a you will never have to you
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will never have to pay for a rockin rib roll at
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the Westchester Flanagan's Have you been gone
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yet? Have you gone to Flanagan's yet?
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I've been to the Flanagan's by the ring, but I
14:11
haven't been Chucky
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do you I love the way you chew
14:19
your mouthpiece I've never seen it actually
14:21
fully in your mouth the way I see
14:23
you when you're on the bench chewing that thing and it's dangling
14:25
It's disgusting. I imagine you sleep with
14:27
it at night. Do you?
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I do not I actually need a fresh one
14:32
here soon. No don't change it I'm
14:34
all over I go through a handful more
14:36
than a handful I guess ever actually have
14:39
it in your mouth the way it's supposed to be or
14:40
do you just start the game with it dangling?
14:43
out of your mouth I'm not gonna lie
14:45
at that at the beginning of every shift I
14:47
try to Try to make sure
14:49
that it's fully in but
14:51
within seconds. I'm sure I just don't
14:53
think about it and that's Being
14:55
chewed on don't change it's good luck Don't change it Can
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you explain to us please the
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level of pain threshold that is
15:02
presently required at this level of play
15:04
that you're playing at? Because hockey
15:06
players are notoriously tough who's
15:09
toughest right now? Gritting through
15:11
God knows what in your locker room?
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Yeah Hockey players
15:16
are the toughest from the stuff. I've seen I don't won't
15:18
get into Individual stuff for what
15:20
people are playing through or half play through
15:23
this season But it's not just playoff hockey
15:25
with guys play through its game 10
15:28
of the year You know, I got hockey players
15:30
are tough from and it's not just
15:32
you know It's up and down your lineup your your
15:34
best players to you know Your new
15:37
goalies or guys that aren't even
15:39
playing that want to be playing that having
15:41
you like it's just it's just the culture And
15:43
how it is so?
15:45
This time of year like you gotta block
15:47
that big shot You gotta get that puck out even though,
15:49
you know, you're gonna get crushed You gotta
15:52
go to the net hard. You got to stay there. You gotta take a
15:54
few cross checks Just just the way it is
15:56
guys. So To make hockey
15:58
so great you remember that dorky guy
15:59
with the glasses that we brought to that
16:02
interview with you before the
16:04
season and he was just a little emo about
16:06
Jonathan Huberdow. He is refusing
16:08
to capitulate. He won't give you your flowers.
16:11
So just for me and my group chat, can you just
16:13
say, screw you, witty?
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Well,
16:18
I'll just say, cause he's not on here. That's the only reason
16:20
why I'm saying it. He's not on here. So screw
16:23
you way for not being on here.
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Yeah. I told him to
16:26
come in and apologize
16:27
to you face to face. He refused.
16:30
He said, I got a thing. How dare he? He stared
16:32
at the camera. You
16:34
guys are embarrassing me. You're not journalists
16:37
anymore. Dan, you called him an asshole.
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You see what I love? Super compliment. I asked
16:41
him what is here. He said, what's your name, buddy?
16:47
Thank you for being on with us, Matthew. Has
16:49
your dad, does your dad concede that you're the better
16:51
player? How does that one work? Whoa, whoa,
16:53
whoa. You remember Keith. Like, let's.
16:56
We got to do a lot more in
16:59
my career before we can be in that conversation
17:01
with him. But hopefully we can start with
17:04
a long playoff run and play for
17:06
multiple more weeks. I love you.
17:08
Does he? Thank you so much for making my life so
17:10
much better now. Seriously, I just want to hug you. Can I just
17:12
hug you right now? Can you just? It's uncomfortable.
17:15
Just be here forever and just
17:18
keep playing the way you're playing. They've got him signed
17:20
forever. Isn't it like a million year contract?
17:23
No trade pause? You've got the greatest
17:25
thing that ever happened to me. And I'm just
17:27
so grateful for you.
17:29
Well, thank you guys. Hopefully you guys can watch
17:31
for a few more rounds. I'll be there. Oh,
17:33
I'll be there with a hat on. I
17:36
don't know what that means. Neither do I. Just
17:38
a hat. Just a hat. Just a
17:40
hat. Only a hat. And if you score three,
17:42
that's coming off too. Awesome.
17:46
Thank you, guys. Love you. I'm embarrassed.
17:49
He
17:49
didn't say it back. He didn't say I love
17:51
you back.
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