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Welcome to the big suey! Presented
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by DraftKings. Why are you listening to
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this show? The podcast that seems very
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sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact,
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the only difference seems to be this imaging.
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I have been tempted in restaurants just
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walking past tables to grab somebody's
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hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it. And
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now, here's the marching man to nowhere, that
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face and the habitual liar. So,
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guys, have you seen the Edmonton
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Oilers power play statistics? Have
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I seen what? The Edmonton Oilers power play
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statistics. Why would I have seen that? I'm gambling again.
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Oh, Jesus. Yeah, they're unstoppable.
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Unstoppable. OK, slow
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down, Mike. You've come in. I love a good power play.
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I do. You've come in hot from
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LA. I don't know what you're snorting out
1:21
there, entertainment wise. But
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you just got a taste. Everyone
1:26
told us not to build this in Miami. It couldn't work. Had
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to be in New York, had to be in LA. You can't get good help
1:30
in Miami. Nobody lives in Miami that would
1:33
do any of this. And we
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are in Miami, and now we've got offices
1:39
in New York, and Mike Ryan's coming back
1:41
from LA because he's interested in global
1:44
conquer. He
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wants to be a movie producer. Why
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are you looking at me like that, Billy? Well, to conquer the globe,
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we have to leave the country. Yeah, yeah. We
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just keep expanding the country, You're not really gonna go to Canada
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myopic and that's not really my goal My goal
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is more like Dooko Kane with Mickey Rourke, but sure
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whatever
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Mm-hmm. You do that here seems like you did you could
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you could do that here he is from Miami
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all done here
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the story that I wanted to get
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to Strogatz because it It
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might not be something that anyone cares
2:15
about because Sports is all entertainment
2:18
and a lot of people don't want moralities
2:20
around sports. Just play
2:22
the games entertain me They're just games.
2:25
They're not societal at all reflections,
2:28
would
2:28
you please just enjoy yourselves
2:30
and get out of the political playpen? And
2:34
stop, stop Lebitt Tard with the
2:36
dangers of white men
2:38
with power not using
2:41
it correctly. White men with power
2:43
never facing consequences. White
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men with power, Daniel Snyder, can run everything
2:48
into the ground, and it's $6 billion. Vince
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McMahon. I
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don't do a lot of Stu Gatz, the
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judging of public figures. I
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try to abstain from just
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the eviscerating of human character.
3:03
Same.
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Vince McMahon, truly
3:09
horrible. And
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I've been entertained by wrestling and I grew up
3:13
watching him. He was just a sideline guy, like
3:15
a reporter. He was Mean Jean Okerlund. Like
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I've seen his, whatever, 40
3:19
years, dominating the sport
3:22
from like the voice to now, he's back
3:24
in power. He's running WrestleMania.
3:26
Mike's coming back from WrestleMania
3:30
and Vince McMahon is back in power. And
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I just, maybe you don't care. Maybe
3:34
you think it's a small thing, but now you
3:36
know why Endeavor didn't comment on Dana
3:39
White.
3:40
Now you know. They couldn't have two of them
3:42
in a cage while the deal was being done because the
3:44
deal wasn't done yesterday. They couldn't jeopardize
3:47
the WWE deal, the $9 billion
3:49
deal, that now goes totally dirty,
3:51
run by two kings who have no consequences
3:54
for anything, McMahon and Dana White. And
3:56
I'm sure it'll be a profitable,
3:59
great business. in streaming, like how could it not
4:01
be?
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But
4:04
what's running both organizations and the labor
4:06
being ground into the fighters using
4:08
their actual body just thrown into the
4:10
mill here so they can make their money
4:12
so the two awful ones without consequences
4:15
can make their money?
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Maybe it doesn't bother you. Maybe you
4:19
just want to be fake sports, wrestling,
4:22
and mixed martial arts. I'll enjoy the fights in
4:25
Miami on Saturday.
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Like I can make moral grandstands I could
4:29
I could raise my fist and be infuriated
4:32
but I'll be a hypocrite like I'll be a
4:34
hypocrite on what I'm watching
4:37
where the party is you're not alone
4:39
most people just want to be entertained they don't
4:41
care how they get their entertainment who's providing
4:44
the entertainment they want to be entertained just know
4:46
what's happening at the top of that company
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just don't let it happen quietly what's
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happening at the top of that company and
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and what the men at the top of that company are
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accused of doing and how they cash in anyway,
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because there are no consequences for them, whether
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it's rape allegations or video of
5:02
you hitting your wife in public. So Vince McMahon
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comes into power,
5:05
come returns back into power a few
5:08
weeks ago, really, because his
5:11
daughter and Nick Khan were co-CEOs.
5:13
The news comes back that he's going
5:15
to re-assume his position as chairman
5:17
of the board because he has the most stakes
5:20
in the company and you can't approve
5:23
a sale without the approval of someone with
5:26
the most shares in the company so
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he really Logan Royd this one it's
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succession. Amazing dirty power like
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what a dirty power play back to
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power in a mustache. It's Vance McMahon
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he's come back as a wrestling... It's Vicente.
5:45
He died his hair. He did? Yes. That
5:47
hair is dark. He did Mike. He's
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in disguise. What he's wearing a disguise
5:51
in his hair. So with Dana
5:53
White, heard
5:56
Dana White and I think many
5:59
people realize it. Cancer culture is
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only real if you're governed by some shame.
6:04
If the person that's guilty of all these things that are
6:06
worthy of being, air quotes, canceled, they're
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governed by shame, like Al Franken was,
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or how even Vince McMahon was at the
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start of all this during the New York Times
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reporting,
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there are some punitive measures. But if you just persist
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in the face of it, you're
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pretty Teflon. And Dana White sat there and explained,
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suspending me would only punish the UFC
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because I am the only one capable of
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running this. Vince McMahon may have had
6:32
the same pitch
6:34
to endeavor, but here's the
6:36
thing. They
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were actually doing great without Vince McMahon.
6:40
The business, every mentor, a quantifiable
6:42
metric that you would do to boost your
6:44
market value, the
6:46
creative, the television ratings were bouncing
6:49
back with Vince McMahon out of creative
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and morale
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was up. Wrestlers that had left that
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company wanted to come back because Triple
6:58
H was there because they were all beaten
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into the ground by the bad morale
7:02
that surrounded Vince McMahon.
7:04
And yesterday, Vince McMahon running
7:07
the full show again, running in guerrilla
7:09
position, which is where basically
7:11
the director of everything is running. And
7:14
morale,
7:15
low again, by all reports from people that
7:17
cover the sport. A true fact
7:19
that as a lifelong wrestling fan that I'm embarrassed
7:21
to admit to you,
7:23
that I thought legitimately plausible and
7:25
confused me at the beginning, when I read
7:27
the phrase Gorilla position and
7:29
did not know that in wrestling there
7:32
is someone who stands at the center of the spectacle
7:34
and entertainment known as the Gorilla. I thought
7:36
Vince McMahon went yesterday in
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a Gorilla costume so that they wouldn't know
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that he was there.
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It's actually named after Gorilla Monsoon who
7:45
would be positioned there during television
7:47
broadcast because
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even though he was owning the WWE at the time,
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Vince McMahon was also the voice of the WWE
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so you needed someone to actually run the broadcast from
7:56
backstage and Gorilla Monsoon would do that and now
7:58
if you're running a show
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you're running it from gorilla. But you
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have these. Wait, what are you laughing about? Well, I, I
8:05
much prefer the image of Vince McMahon's
8:07
great showing up in a gorilla suit. Why? Because
8:10
he doesn't want to be noticed. Or because he's
8:12
not allowed to be there because he's been banned
8:15
from the facility because they don't want to near the power
8:17
or the morale. It's, it's just funny because
8:19
the general vibe and WrestleMania was a
8:22
great atmosphere and you actually kind of feel better about
8:24
supporting the, the, the product of Vince
8:26
McMahon.
8:27
isn't this major cult of personality
8:29
that is driving everything. There was a
8:32
lot of positive momentum around
8:34
Triple H's creative and the product
8:37
kind of turning around and getting away from some of the Vincisms
8:40
that have plagued the industry a little
8:43
bit. And it seems as though no one
8:45
really wants this except for Vince McMahon
8:47
and Endeavor. They want Vince McMahon
8:49
to be in that position, to be running things.
8:51
They also want Nick Khan to be killing it.
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He's absolutely killing it. Honestly, if Roger
8:56
Goodell decides to leave the NFL,
8:58
I would hire Nick Khan to be the commissioner
9:00
of the NFL. It seems as though everything
9:03
Nick Khan touches turns
9:05
to gold.
9:06
And he's saying to make a ton
9:08
of money from this deal because he had a bunch of equity
9:11
in there. I was wondering, all right, that
9:13
was kind of the mission accomplished. What does Nick
9:15
Khan do now? No, he's just going to accrue more
9:17
power. Well, Mike, Nick Khan, for those who
9:19
do not know, I think this was happening
9:22
with Skipper at ESPN. all of Nick
9:24
Khan's people in the agent business,
9:27
all of them were running ESPN. They
9:29
were, it felt to people like
9:32
Nick Khan at ESPN was the one putting
9:34
people into all of the positions. Well, he
9:36
worked at CAA, you're saying that agency
9:38
kind of, it felt like it was running ESPN.
9:41
But Nick Khan in particular was such a dominant
9:43
figure. If you were looking at some of the highest paid talents
9:46
in ESPN's employee were Nick Khan,
9:48
fine. This is, so I think this was
9:50
happening in or around Skipper's
9:53
tenure, and Skipper speaks
9:55
highly of Nick Khan, but so you've got
9:57
this shark with McMahon, and
9:59
in
9:59
de is run by Marc Shapiro, the former
10:02
ESPN president, I think. He's
10:05
gonna be put as president of this, but
10:07
it
10:08
was really kind of sad. They made
10:10
Triple H do this whole spiel, we're
10:12
not going anywhere, it's gonna be the same WWE.
10:15
And that would have been a great rah-rah speech
10:17
if it were actually
10:19
coming from Triple H, now written down for him
10:21
by the new head of creative and Vince McMahon
10:23
again. So it's an interesting time
10:25
for WWE. There's a lot of transition. trying
10:27
to project that it's going to be the same. But
10:30
the same to them is what it was when Vince
10:32
was still in power and not what it had become,
10:34
which was a fun, exciting thing that
10:37
started putting distance between them
10:40
and the competition. And it was a really exciting time
10:42
for pro wrestling fans because it was this breath of
10:44
fresh air. And now it's Vince McMahon
10:47
again, and you're left with all the bad feelings that go associated
10:49
with it. Tony, why are you and Billy and
10:51
Jeremy making faces? I'm excited, Dan.
10:54
The astronauts in the Zoom. I want to talk to them.
10:56
There's a lot of things Okay, you guys
10:58
have wrestling opinions though. I see them you
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Good morning. Hello,
13:04
sir. Hello. It
13:08
is nice to see you. You were at the game last
13:10
night, they told us. Yes,
13:12
yes, it was awesome. Wow, that stadium
13:14
was packed. The energy, all those college students,
13:17
it was great.
13:18
You could see up close how shitty San
13:20
Diego State looked. Oh, man.
13:23
You know what though, everybody played hard and
13:25
man, I was standing next to the court like if
13:27
one of them dudes ran into me full speed, it
13:29
will be a bad day man for the knees and the back.
13:33
So, you know, I
13:35
knew I couldn't get up there and hang with any of them. So
13:38
it was great to watch them play. So you're closer to the court
13:40
than you're going to be to the moon then, huh?
13:42
Oh by a long shot, by a long shot,
13:44
man. That is actually a really important part
13:46
of this mission to understand. We aren't landing on the moon.
13:49
We aren't even going to orbit. We're not going to stop and get into
13:51
a low orbit. going to pass the moon and our
13:53
closest point will be between 6 and 8,000 miles. That's
13:56
the diameter of the Earth. Now, we'll
13:59
still be close to the...
14:00
compared to the 240,000 miles we start off at. But
14:04
it'll be awesome to see the moon and the foreground
14:06
and the earth out way beyond it.
14:09
Your occupation is fascinating. You've
14:11
got to get out of here because you're very busy. Only 24
14:13
people have ever done this, gone around. He's headed to the moon,
14:15
man. Yes, gone. It hasn't happened
14:17
around the moon. I'd be more
14:20
impressed if he was landing on the moon, but still impressed.
14:22
That's fine. Victor, are you infuriating?
14:24
Agree with you. Thank you. I
14:27
was going to say, are you furious that you get this get
14:29
this mission instead
14:30
of the one that allows you to walk on the actual moon?
14:33
No way. This is awesome. Like you said, 24
14:35
human beings and all of human
14:37
history. And so we're going to increase that
14:39
number. But man, this is a special time
14:42
and this mission is special. And I
14:44
listen, I'm a part of a team and to
14:46
get the team to that next stage where we're going
14:48
to land people or dock to a space
14:50
station, a gateway around the moon. It
14:53
is a privilege just to be carrying the baton for this
14:55
part.
14:56
What are you guys laughing about back there? Well,
14:58
it's like when you say something special like my mom says I'm special
15:00
too, but it's like, you know There's other things that are more important.
15:02
There's always things more important. That's true.
15:05
Yes But we're going to
15:07
the moon Pretty
15:09
bad. Can you explain singular?
15:12
Yes it is. What is what is the question
15:14
you most often get people are curious
15:17
about that? Your lifestyle
15:19
I have a variety of questions, but what's
15:21
the one you get most often?
15:23
Oh, wow Wow. Honestly,
15:25
the question I get most often, which is
15:28
a little surprising is, is
15:31
the earth really round?
15:34
I mean, I get asked that
15:36
so much, or maybe that's just the one
15:38
that stands out the most to me, but people ask
15:40
me like, like, seriously, they pull me aside, like, okay, I saw you
15:43
just give your talk. I saw the videos like when
15:45
you filmed an entire orbit and did a time lapse.
15:47
Yeah. But like, come on, tell me for real. Is the
15:49
earth really around.
16:00
around the Earth. And so, you know, orbit's not possible
16:02
if it's not round. But it looks
16:04
to be a little more specific. It's an
16:06
ellipsoid. If you took a tomato and look at
16:08
that, it's not perfectly round. It's kind of flat on the top
16:10
and the bottom. It is that shape. It
16:13
is. But it is round. Orbit wouldn't be possible
16:15
without it being, you know, spherical.
16:18
I can't believe your job is fascinating,
16:20
that that's the most common question. I thought
16:23
it'd be in the realm of what's
16:26
the most scared you have been in
16:28
thinking about some of this stuff that
16:30
you do for a living that many of us find scary.
16:33
It takes a certain type
16:35
to do this.
16:37
I do get asked that question quite a bit and
16:39
I would say listen I'm sure you
16:41
have worked with folks who
16:43
the thought of speaking to hundreds of people
16:46
all around the country is scary and so your
16:48
job is scary to some people. I loved watching
16:50
those young men play last night you know one of those
16:52
teams was going to win and one was going to to lose. I always
16:55
appreci the heart it takes to ge
16:58
of a stage group of peop And
17:00
so I appreciate curre its
17:02
forms. And so yes, th uh
17:05
demanding thing and ri
17:07
a challenging thing, but we
17:11
train uh and we do so at
17:14
one that helps you to prepare for
17:16
it. But you a you can
17:18
and can't do. And get
17:20
to a stage where worr being
17:23
afraid would only make you less capable in
17:25
the moment. And so we trained, we trained.
17:27
That movie, The Right Stuff, wasn't about ego. It's
17:29
not about ego. This is not a machismo thing. We
17:32
work hard. We bust our ass to
17:34
be ready to do the job that we do.
17:36
Rictor, you're going to be the first black astronaut to go on
17:38
a lunar mission. Why don't you go over some of the history
17:40
of African-Americans going to space? Oh,
17:43
gosh. OK, well, listen, I got to start with
17:45
my friend, mentor, and icon,
17:47
Ed Dwight, who, back in the Kennedy
17:49
administration, was asked to become the first
17:51
astronaut candidate. And because of a lot of things
17:53
that will summarize it's just racism was
17:55
not allowed into the program and didn't make it
17:58
into that class. That was 20. years
18:00
before the first black
18:02
astronaut was flying space. That's again, another friend
18:04
and mentor Guy Bluford, who flew as
18:06
a part of the shuttle program. Right after Sally
18:08
Ride, the first woman, he got to watch her navigate
18:10
those challenging situations. And then he
18:12
was the first black man to
18:14
fly in space. But actually between
18:17
the two, between Ed Dwight and Guy Bluford, we had another
18:19
man named Robert Lawrence, Major Robert Lawrence,
18:21
who was training for the Air Force's space program,
18:24
the manned orbiting laboratory, the mole program. And he
18:26
died in an airplane accident. And so there's
18:28
been a really interesting history.
18:31
And I believe I come along as the 21st
18:33
African-American selected for the NASA astronaut
18:35
program. You had a Cuban American,
18:37
a black Cuban fly with the Russians. Actually
18:40
back then they had the Soviet Union. And
18:42
yeah, so Cuba
18:45
had an astronaut fly. And so it's
18:47
been an interesting history. And I tell you what,
18:49
my favorite thing about it is people like
18:51
to talk about the first man, but the second's third
18:53
and it becoming normal is what I'm about.
18:55
So hopefully I'm a force to get
18:58
this on the point, to the point where
19:00
young black kids grew up thinking, man, I can hoop,
19:03
I can be a football player like Emmitt Smith, my
19:05
fraternity brother, but I can also be an astronaut
19:07
or a doctor like Victor Glover or his daughter wants
19:10
to be. And so I love it that we're changing the
19:12
game. We're broadening the game.
19:15
That's unfair to do that. No, no. He
19:17
was bonded to Lemon. Victor, can
19:19
you please tell us, what is
19:22
something to a layman that a layman wouldn't understand
19:24
about how hard, When you say it's physically taxing,
19:27
explain it to us in ways that we
19:29
can understand.
19:30
Oh, big time. First of all, Ivis Smith
19:33
is a great, I don't know why that was
19:35
debatable. Okay. No, he's a classy man.
19:37
No, they were making fun of you. You don't get the show. No,
19:39
they're making fun of you for name dropping. They're making
19:41
fun of you for name
19:44
dropping and it's a funny show. Alright,
19:47
so this job, physically demanding part
19:50
of this job is spacewalking. We're not going
19:52
to spacewalk on this mission. Artemis 2 won't have any
19:54
spacewalks. but space walking is challenging
19:56
and we still train for it. I'm an instructor
19:59
so I will still do. space walking training
20:02
and it's the equivalent, we call it space walks,
20:04
we really should say space crawl because
20:06
you don't use your feet as much, you move around
20:08
with your hands but then you also have to
20:10
do the work with your hands so when you get where you're going
20:13
you put the clips down and you get
20:15
your drill when you do the work to repair
20:17
or install whatever you're doing and those space
20:20
walks you see us outside when you watch
20:22
NASA TV like I know you all do we're
20:24
outside for seven hours plus or minus but
20:26
we get in the suit hours before and we're
20:29
in about an hour afterwards. So you're inside
20:31
that enclosed volume for 10 to 11
20:34
hours and all you have is 32 ounces
20:36
of water and it is a very physically demanding
20:38
suit even though you're weightless in space there is
20:40
momentum so when you start moving you
20:42
have to use the strength of your grip and your muscles
20:44
to stop yourself from moving and that
20:46
suit can with your body and it can weigh upwards of
20:49
a thousand pounds so it is physically
20:51
demanding even though there's no weight in space when
20:53
things are moving it It still requires some
20:55
force to stop them or change direction. A
20:58
million questions and you've got to get out
21:00
of here so quickly. Greg's got one and Stu
21:02
Gots is got one. I'm curious, do you
21:04
ever wear the full bulky spacesuit
21:07
out in public just for laughs?
21:09
You know, I have to check it out from some people and if
21:12
it was easy to get it out, would totally. No,
21:14
but I would. You would. Of course
21:17
you would. Who wouldn't? Do you ever get tired
21:19
of drinking Tang?
21:21
No, because we don't drink Tang. I think the last time
21:23
I was a kid, I know like, I'm
21:26
sorry to just like shatter that, but we don't eat freeze-dried
21:29
ice cream or drink tang. But
21:32
I love tang. I would love to have some. Can
21:34
you call us from the moon tomorrow? Like how
21:36
does this work? Are you not in space
21:39
now? Are you just a, you're just in a studio?
21:41
Can you change your zoom background? That's
21:43
just a background. I thought he was in
21:45
space. I thought you were joining us from
21:47
space. I was gonna say the earth
21:49
is round.
21:49
It'll
21:52
be a little bit longer than tomorrow, but
21:55
I'll try to call it. All right, please. Yeah, that'll
21:57
be great. Please do. Please
21:59
do. Thank you, sir. Hey,
22:01
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23:00
This is the Dunlebatar Show with
23:02
the
23:02
Stu Gods.
23:04
["The Stu Gods." theme
23:06
music plays in the background.]
23:09
Greg Cody has a back in my day, and
23:12
he's told a variety of people he's a little
23:14
nervous about it because it's controversial. He
23:17
is evolving his
23:18
back in my day. The back in my day, I won't
23:21
say it's grown stale. I will just
23:23
say that he's having trouble coming
23:25
up with new ideas because he feels like
23:27
he's done just about everything there is
23:29
to be done in the name of opinion making,
23:32
that there's nothing else to write about and talk about.
23:35
And now that it's sponsored, he wants more money, so
23:37
he thinks he needs to do more controversial
23:39
things to push the envelope a little
23:41
bit, to grow it as
23:44
someone who's trying to keep his career
23:46
lively in the podcast game,
23:48
a columnist dinosaur trying to
23:51
stay evolved. It's not sponsored anymore,
23:53
which is weird because the last time it was sponsored,
23:56
you took a shot at subscription services
23:58
and rebates when... The
24:00
sponsor had one of those so it's weird that they went away.
24:02
I found that out afterward That was right.
24:04
It's too hot to handle is the the larger
24:07
point is that Greg's not for sale And
24:13
exactly right integrity Balance
24:15
Greg Cody did Billy Corbin cost us
24:17
Bacardi because he came in here Well, we're gonna end
24:20
and talking about things that Bacardi
24:22
was doing in the neighborhood Did he cost us that
24:24
sponsorship probably and you don't
24:26
have to say everything that comes to your mind
24:28
So Greg Cody's back
24:30
in my day is something that we will get to
24:33
in a second But I just I want to
24:35
because Vince McMahon
24:37
He really did as Vance McMahon.
24:39
He came back as a wrestling character with a
24:41
ridiculous mustache a pencil thin
24:43
mustache It's it's he did
24:46
trick us. He tricks us. It's like that's not a rapist.
24:48
That's a fool and He
24:50
he just looks so ridiculous. The mustache
24:53
is too close to the lip not close enough to
24:55
the nose He looks like Vicente looks like somebody
24:57
on Spanish TV that would be giving me the news Yeah, I would
24:59
trust though We got a couple good looks
25:01
like on Twitter one of them is Vince McMahon
25:03
looks like he's about to ask me for photos of spider-man
25:08
I thought Vince McMahon looks
25:11
like the evil manager of a haunted hotel
25:13
in an early 2000s comedy Yeah,
25:15
that's good Vince McMahon
25:17
looks like his men are hunting Zorro as we speak
25:20
You have him as Vincent Price as well. Yeah
25:23
Vince McMahon looks like John
25:26
Waters having an allergic reaction. That's
25:29
good. Vince McMahon looks like
25:31
he's going to swindle your entire town on his magical
25:34
miracle tonic pictures in the ailment. Vince
25:36
McMahon looks like he's about to say, McSoozy.
25:38
He
25:41
also says, in keeping
25:45
with what Tony was doing there, he looks like
25:47
he's dressed up as Vicente Fox
25:49
for Halloween and really angry no one
25:51
gets it. which
26:00
made me laugh a lot. And yeah,
26:02
and someone put him on top of like a salsa. Uh.
26:05
Uh. Uh. Uh. It's,
26:08
I mean, it's a funny photo. He looks ridiculous.
26:11
And again, it's the way it's that it's
26:13
one of the dirty tricks that the
26:15
man can do in wrestling and entertainment. I
26:18
can be truly awful as a human being, but look
26:20
at my mustache. Ha ha. You're
26:22
not even going to talk about the bad stuff I
26:24
do because look at my pencil thin mustache.
26:27
Look how easy it is for me to trick
26:29
you guys about
26:30
not having any morals and being
26:32
someone who's compromised in every way and creates
26:34
a terrible workplace. Let me
26:37
just, yeah, I mean, that's out of
26:39
makeup.
26:40
That's how I would draw that on his lip if
26:42
I was trying to distract people from
26:44
the fact that he's 80 and still running this
26:47
dirty game.
26:51
It's unbelievable, Stu Gant. It
26:53
is, it's a great trick. I love
26:55
the idea of him going into the mirror and having like the full
26:57
mustache and being like, Nah, they'll see right past this.
27:00
Hold on, give me the razor. Yeah. They're
27:02
putting it out in the mirror and it's like, this
27:04
is it, masterpiece. And
27:08
meanwhile, Mike is in the middle of the spectacle,
27:11
watching the Final Four games
27:13
on his phone because he can't get close enough to
27:15
the action because of how much his father made
27:18
him love wrestling. What?
27:21
That was a lot. Now, I wanted
27:23
to be in Houston and it seemed like, I was jealous Greg
27:26
and Chris went out there for
27:28
the FAU. Yeah, we did. Sponsored by Sheets
27:30
and Giggles. Thank you. No,
27:32
I'm not except when it involves the final four.
27:35
But the Greg Cody Show podcast is from Houston
27:37
this week. Mike, if you would have ever told me
27:39
that you would have missed UM
27:42
in a final four, I would not have. Crazy. Never
27:45
have believed it. So I was really trying to make it work.
27:48
And the best option was for me to
27:50
fly at six o'clock
27:51
in the morning to
27:53
drive to Anaheim take
27:55
my chances on a spirit flight for about a grand.
27:58
Dangerous game. It was just. So I worked
28:00
myself into thinking, yeah, I
28:02
would love to be there around this atmosphere right now.
28:05
I don't know how many times we'll ever get to this point and it never
28:07
happened before, but I realized
28:09
that if I went and I put my body through
28:12
hell
28:12
and I spent all sorts of money
28:14
to get myself over there and they lost, I'd
28:17
feel like a world-class idiot. And
28:19
so I told myself, if they win, yeah, I
28:21
wish I'd be there for that, but I'll just see on Monday.
28:23
And that was my plan going into it. And after
28:26
they lost, I was like, well, at least I get to drown my sorrows
28:28
in LA as opposed to Houston. Greg,
28:30
put us there if you don't mind as one
28:32
of the probably the most famous
28:35
alum from FAU right behind Carrot
28:37
Top. I would say you, Chris Cody
28:39
and Carrot Top, but you were there buzzer
28:41
beater. They lost. Put us there. Like what were you
28:43
thinking? How were you feeling? Yeah, I was, uh, wait
28:46
a minute. Are you interviewing Greg? No, I
28:48
appreciate that. Thank
28:49
you. I'd like to know the experience. I've never
28:51
been to a final four. I would like to know.
28:53
I had never been to a final four either
28:55
as a journalist. This time I mostly went as
28:57
a fan, so we're trying to get into the stadium
29:01
and I'm doing my chant and hoping
29:03
that everybody plays along with me. They say,
29:05
who? We say hoot. And
29:08
I said that like three or four times in a row. Nobody did it
29:10
with you. You were by yourself. Nobody was doing
29:12
it with me. It's very vulnerable. That was a little sad.
29:15
Yeah, it was shocking to me that nobody
29:17
would play along with me. But the game
29:19
itself, you know, it's all where you're sitting.
29:22
I was sitting
29:23
right in front of two San Diego
29:25
State fans who were like obnoxious.
29:29
I mean they were the worst. So
29:31
you know we thought the whole game we were winning,
29:33
yeah I can say we because I'm an all foul
29:36
all on the prowl. Although when I went there
29:38
I'm so old, didn't have basketball yet,
29:40
no program there. Didn't even have it.
29:42
Give me the sport. The sport. That's
29:45
right. Nate Smith hadn't done his thing yet.
29:48
But it was a great experience because it's
29:51
the only event I've ever been to
29:53
where it's four fandoms all
29:55
at once. know all kind of different
29:57
you know I pose next to an owl
30:00
You know a guy in an owl head, you know
30:02
Christopher told me later the guy had a little bit
30:04
of a woody Which I didn't notice
30:06
but it was you know, that was a little disconcerting
30:09
to be photographed next to him, but
30:11
you know at any rate Let's
30:14
not elaborate on that the photo is somewhere
30:23
Thank you hold on
30:27
Excellent interview question
30:29
by Stu Gods that I mocked because
30:32
he asked Greg Cody put us there as
30:34
your heart is broken as if he was
30:36
on defense. I haven't heard a
30:38
call to Woody in quite some time. Mike, I need
30:40
you to allow me the moment. You have come
30:42
in here very hot and I need you to
30:45
settle down. There
30:49
are some wrestling
30:51
takes in the back row that I need to get
30:54
to. But the detour that
30:56
we just took, Greg
31:00
Cody was next to a owl,
31:03
and in that photo you decided to tell
31:06
all of us that the owl seemed to be aroused,
31:08
and it made me think about something that Tony's
31:10
been talking about, which is
31:13
that adults in costumes
31:15
at parties or at festive things
31:18
make him sad. They have the opposite
31:20
reaction that you wanna have about
31:23
mascots. Incredibly sad when
31:25
you're looking at I was at my nephew's birthday party
31:27
It was a ninja turtles birthday party and then all
31:29
of a sudden halfway through the party a ninja turtle comes in But
31:32
it's kind of like a guy who was smoking cigarettes out before
31:35
What's on the helmet smells like cigarette like cigarettes? He
31:37
can't talk because he's a mascot or
31:39
whatever you call those things and it's like he's
31:42
just sitting there like
31:43
doing robotic moves
31:45
and it's just such a sad thing like the sleeves
31:48
little down so I and see his skin when he's got a glove
31:50
on. I'm like, oh, this is, what
31:52
are we doing here, guys? Are you scratching
31:54
out a living? I mean, I mean,
31:56
side game, come on. Put it on the
31:59
phone!
31:59
Should the clown
32:01
scratching out a living at the kids
32:03
party be smoking a cigarette?
32:06
Because I always smoking a cigarette No I'm willing
32:08
for America to take that freedom away from
32:10
clowns and people and adults in costumes
32:13
They you need to keep up the illusion for the kids
32:15
sir clowns don't smoke cigarettes
32:18
Neither does Barney Barney doesn't
32:20
know
32:21
and those actors spent four years at a hundred
32:23
and twenty thousand dollars on a BFA college
32:25
that that too. Did the
32:27
turtle have a scotch in his hand? No,
32:29
I think he had a beer before though. I could smell
32:31
that too. Nothing wrong with that. So what happened
32:33
with the owl and the last minute and
32:35
the last moments of this game because
32:38
you were probably invested. Look
32:40
man, Greg Cody's been covering sports for a long
32:42
time.
32:44
StuGots doesn't know the short stop for
32:46
the Mets. The sports fandom dies
32:48
a little bit when you get older.
32:51
Greg Cody, Did you feel like a fan? Did
32:54
FAU take you on a bokeh ride? Were you
32:56
a proud sports alum for the first time
32:58
in your life about anything FAU? And
33:01
then did you get your heart broken at the end because
33:03
you legitimately wanted to see them get dragged
33:05
and slaughtered by UConn last night? Well,
33:07
listen, the UConn game was later,
33:10
so we didn't know then that Miami was destined
33:12
to lose. And FAU was winning
33:14
the whole game. I thought FAU was going
33:16
to win that game. And I'm thinking, you know what? Wow,
33:18
maybe the canes have a shot. actually
33:21
an FAU UM championship
33:23
game. That would be unheard of. It would thrill
33:26
us. It would probably bore the rest of the country,
33:28
but who cares? It might actually happen. And
33:31
then San Diego State makes that comeback and
33:33
the fans behind me are just yapping. And
33:35
it's, you know, I'm wearing my Owls t-shirt.
33:38
I never do that. I have never in my life
33:40
worn an FAU t-shirt until Saturday
33:43
night. You visited sports fandom. Yes,
33:45
I did.
33:46
Which was a whole mind-blower to me. I can't believe
33:48
how much those souvenirs cost by the way. I
33:51
bought a coffee cup for my wife
33:53
to bring back because She hasn't worn
33:55
a t-shirt since 1978 So
33:57
I presented with a coffee cup and she's like, why?
34:00
I have so many coffee cups. It was a nice gesture.
34:02
I had to bring her something. Thank you I've
34:05
never been to a final four, but there's really nothing
34:07
like it in sports because you have most
34:10
championship games They have two fan
34:12
bases coming together and a lot of corporate interests There's
34:14
a lot of corporate interest, but there's something about
34:16
the semi-final It's even bigger than
34:19
the final because the week of hype and
34:21
the media machine Surrounds that one
34:23
double header. Yeah, and it's got to be a really
34:25
cool spectacle I'm envious that I didn't get
34:27
to go because it just didn't work out It was totally great
34:30
and if I had to guess I would say the four
34:32
fandoms were about equal You know, you couldn't
34:34
pick out one where wow, I haven't seen many Yukon
34:36
fans or look at all You know, I think it
34:38
was about equal and and for the most part
34:40
FA you huh? Even FA Yeah,
34:43
we had so many we flew out of Fort Lauderdale granted,
34:45
but we had so many foul owls on the
34:47
prowl Okay on our plane. It was unbelievable.
34:50
I do feel like there's a there's something
34:52
here that's not being covered, right? Because Mike is
34:54
now playing an elaborate armor defense
34:57
against people being able to get into
34:59
his vulnerable
35:00
feelings about his program. He
35:02
was going to be in LA watching WrestleMania
35:04
not enjoying this because this would have been very unpleasant
35:06
to feel once the internet jumped on his neck
35:09
as Kane Homer guy. But it's
35:11
fairly shocking for an adult U.M.
35:13
fan to be at WrestleMania. All the
35:15
shit you've talked this season. You could have just thought that
35:17
adults. As one of U.M.'s biggest supporters.
35:20
Yeah. I've done a lot. And
35:22
social media was actually kind to me
35:24
because it was a great season. Actually
35:26
kind of an oddity, the men's and women's
35:28
programs,
35:30
the last two consecutive years have
35:32
lost to the eventual champion. So
35:34
they've run into really good teams. Miami
35:36
played LSU
35:37
better than anyone probably did outside
35:39
of Utah in that tournament.
35:41
And UConn
35:43
was just a dominant force in this
35:45
tournament, but I'm very proud of the season. And
35:48
like I said, it's a weird thing about college basketball
35:50
that getting to the Final Four is
35:52
almost a bigger deal than making
35:54
it to the Final. Now, if you win it, that
35:56
lives forever, but I love how the semifinals
35:59
are the attraction on then.
36:00
I could not agree more. I think there's such
36:02
a goal like that yet again There's such a gulf
36:04
between the elite eight and the final four when
36:06
you make the final four all of a sudden more than
36:08
bracket heads Are watching do not allow everybody
36:10
Greg do not allow him to do this This is what he's
36:12
doing. He'll just throw it to another part of the room and you're
36:14
the easy mark here Well, let me tell you you're
36:17
the
36:18
no, let me tell you what I was about to say to Mike
36:20
Which I've heard this on the street In
36:23
the Golden Cane community There's
36:26
you are now ostracized. Is that right?
36:28
Whoa? Wow well I believe
36:30
that's true that's not what I'm hearing
36:33
it's on the grapevine It's on the coconut telegraph
36:35
that the other golden canes the other GCs
36:38
are looking down on you big time I was and
36:41
you know it
36:42
No, no, you don't hit me with an and
36:44
you know it And you know it And
36:47
you know it That's a little problem Why
36:50
does this voice change? It's a great,
36:52
it's a great argument Andrew So you come
36:54
to him aggressively with the Injuno and
36:56
several of them run a tattoo, you can't argue
36:59
with it. He's got your corner. You
37:01
know, I guess he's right. I can't fight back with
37:03
the Injuno. But
37:06
please quit deflecting. Right,
37:09
what do you want to know? I was very sad. You
37:11
were at WrestleMania, that's what we want to know. Why?
37:14
No, this is the general
37:15
question. And I mean this, and I've listened to the show for
37:17
a long time and I understand your, you
37:19
know, deference to wrestling and Dan's
37:22
history with wrestling. My general question
37:24
is, who gives a flying f**k about
37:26
wrestling? Wow. Great take.
37:29
It's just amazing take. Every song and every
37:31
movie that's ever existed are on my f**king iPhone.
37:34
Whoa. Wrestling? Whoa, Jeremy. You
37:37
haven't been here long enough to curse. Two minutes. Get
37:39
out of here. Wow. Get out of here.
37:41
You're about to curse. Get it out the bleep. You're
37:44
coming up in the business. I don't know who this kid is,
37:46
but why is he speaking to me this way? You're
37:48
coming up in the business. You thought that was a good idea.
37:50
The heat don't like that. The Marlins don't like that.
37:52
Comfortable my friend. I don't like that you see seen
37:54
the jokes. He was
37:55
making the other day work. Ooh get
37:57
your ass out Every
38:00
song though in every movie. Yeah, what did he mean
38:02
by that? He hit me with I haven't been
38:04
here for the week Who the fuck is this kid?
38:08
Why is Jeremy Tashade telling me I haven't
38:11
been here for a week I was doing lots
38:13
of drugs
38:19
Jeremy wants to be executive producer
38:21
What the hell is that? Don't look at me for a month.
38:24
What the hell is Jeremy Tashay to speak to me
38:27
like this? I'll take it from Greg. You
38:29
have me with, you know, I know it. I knew it. Bishop
38:31
to Rook Nine. But what the hell was that from
38:33
Jeremy? Tony backed off, I noticed. No, no, no, I
38:35
didn't back off. I said, hey,
38:37
wrestling's not for me. Way too comfortable
38:39
there. Well, that's not what you were
38:41
saying before. My current time, it's not what you were there.
38:44
Today, Dan asked me how many people work in this
38:46
building. And I can tell you, with full certainty,
38:48
one fewer one tomorrow. Mike,
38:51
you are, you're unhinged and you're
38:53
power hungry and you're not, you're not projecting
38:56
all of this. You're knocking the microphone
38:58
around, uh, Billy and the
39:00
back row was wanted,
39:02
felt like to me, wanted to mock all
39:05
the wrestling things. You just
39:07
kicked Jeremy out
39:08
of here. Billy just accused Tony of immediately
39:10
backing off. They want, they have
39:12
wrestling opinions. Yeah.
39:15
So I, I like
39:17
the spectacle that is a WrestleMania.
39:19
It's always on Final Four. But it's fake, you know that, right? Yeah,
39:22
jeez, are we really gonna do this thing? I'm
39:24
just saying. No, no, please explain
39:26
it to me. It's fake. Okay, cool.
39:28
Good talk. But like you like it, how so? But you like
39:30
it? Yeah, I think it's a stunt show, that's
39:35
incredible feats of athleticism
39:37
with storytelling, and it's just silly.
39:40
You know what it is? I like to have a drink with
39:42
some friends and root on the dudes with tights
39:45
as they do stunts throughout the air and shit
39:47
that legitimately hurts and they put
39:49
their bodies on the line for entertainment. I mean,
39:52
to me, it's not
39:54
unlike some other combat sports. There
39:57
are certainly huge performative aspects
39:59
to it.
40:00
No, you can like the thing no no it's not
40:02
about the thing I'd
40:04
argue you also follow a fixed sport in combat
40:06
sports
40:11
What
40:13
I was gonna say is what I realized while my thing to get
40:16
sensitive over I'm just saying
40:18
I realized what it is both of you is you have seen fake
40:20
now too. So you emerged fake come on I
40:22
just asked the same company Jeremy
40:27
Two minutes, it's your journey. Oh, wow It's
40:30
I realized it. It's that when Mike was talking.
40:32
I was like, oh man This is kind of like the characters at a
40:34
kid's birthday party. It makes me sad That's
40:36
what it is. Resting kind of makes me sad. It can
40:38
make you sad It's cool. Like it's not it's not for
40:40
everybody people believe this and that makes
40:42
me sad also. No one believes it Forgive
40:47
me I
40:48
will continue this conversation in a second,
40:50
but Stu gots and I have both at the same
40:52
time received a text at
40:54
the same time
40:56
Stu gots It
40:59
is Greg Cody. It's a boner.
41:01
It's a boner. The guy's got a full blood.
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