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This is the best of out kicked the coverage

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with Clay Travis on Fox Sports Radio.

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Major League Baseball also came to a close

0:12

last night, the Boston Red

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Sox winning the series

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in five games. This

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is what it sounded like in Chevez

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Ravine last night with a

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five one win over Clayton

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Kershaw and the Los

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Angeles Dodgers. The game that I

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think will probably be the most memorable, certainly

0:33

Friday Nights eighteen inning epic

0:35

affair that the Dodgers won by one

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game. I think there will be a lot of question

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of questions about the decision in Game four

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to pull a starting pitcher who

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was rolling and end up

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throwing everything away. We'll

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bring in Danny g to ask him about that, but

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first let's go ahead and listen

0:53

to what happened last night. The Shadow

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pin wheels, the bath, nobody

0:58

on base, two men out, bottom

1:00

of the ninth, five one, Red Sox sail

1:04

wines, he fires, tweeting him

1:06

strike brands over. The Red Sox

1:08

have won the World Championship. The

1:11

Boston Red Sox beat the Los

1:13

Angeles Dodgers five to one. They

1:15

win the World Series four

1:17

games to one, and the Red Sox

1:20

become the first team

1:22

in the twenty first century with

1:24

four World championships. Can

1:26

you believe it? They sprinted from the bullpen,

1:29

they sprinted from the dugout. They're mobbing

1:31

each other between third base and home

1:33

plate, and the Boston Red

1:36

Sox are the champions

1:38

for two thousand eighteen. They win their

1:40

one hundred nineteenth game this

1:42

season. Can you believe

1:44

it? This is the classiest,

1:47

most together group in the most selfless

1:49

group of players I have ever been around, Lou

1:52

and Tim and they deserve

1:55

this. They are truly number

1:57

one in this game. All right? Game five

2:00

again, David Price, I would say, has erased

2:02

and exercised a lot of the demons

2:04

that existed surrounding his

2:07

postseason failures. Three really

2:09

good performances by and large

2:11

down the stretch. Um

2:13

and I think a lot of people again are

2:15

going to remember about this series.

2:18

Game three, which the Dodgers won in eighteen

2:20

innings, and then the Game

2:22

four decision, which even our president

2:25

tweeted about Donald Trump. And

2:27

I'm gonna read you this tweet because it's probably the only

2:29

thing Donald Trump's ever sent that every

2:32

person in the city of Los Angeles has agreed

2:34

with. On the Twitter machine watching

2:37

the Dodgers Red Sox final innings.

2:39

It's amazing how a manager takes out

2:41

a picture who is loose and dominating

2:44

through almost seven innings, Rich

2:46

Hill of the Dodgers and brings in

2:48

nervous relievers who get shellacked

2:50

four run lead gone. Managers

2:53

do it all the time. Big mistake,

2:55

exclamation point. And

2:58

I was reading this and I'm like, what if Donald

3:00

Trump had a second career

3:02

on Twitter as the most reasonable

3:05

sports prognosticator

3:07

in America where he just tweeted things

3:09

that were almost universally agreed Danny

3:12

g as your reward for getting the tiger

3:15

Tiger Guy, Tiger Killer on

3:17

the show you went to I

3:19

Believe Game four? Do

3:21

you agree with Donald Trump's tweet? Were you furious

3:23

over the pulling of Rich Hill? You

3:26

don't even know? Yeah,

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And first of all, good morning, Claire. Yeah, thank you.

3:31

You wanted to send me to Friday's game,

3:33

but I had a gig already booked

3:35

and on the calendar for months, so I kept

3:37

my word and my commitment, did the uh the

3:39

DJ gig, and bought tickets

3:42

for the Saturday game. And I'm like, all

3:44

right, And so you can imagine how nervous. I was

3:46

watching that eighteen inning marathon

3:49

and Muncey with the walk off, and so I'm

3:51

so hyped and excited, got

3:54

the date, got everything ready for Saturday

3:56

for to nothing lead. This girl's

3:58

all over me, kissing hug In. She was

4:00

having the best time of her life. And then

4:03

Robert's Pole's Hill. There

4:05

were Yeah, there were a couple of Red

4:08

Sox fans in our section. They were

4:10

chairing when they saw Madison. They

4:12

were charing even louder when they saw Ford,

4:15

two of the dodgers worst relievers

4:17

go into probably the biggest game

4:19

of the entire season. Can't

4:22

comprehend it. The entire city

4:24

has been outraged all weekend

4:27

over it, and it ruined yesterday's game

4:29

obviously because had he let rich

4:31

Hill go into the eighth inning and

4:34

then maybe brought Jansen in for the last inning,

4:36

that's probably how it should have went. If

4:39

that would have happened, that the Dodgers would have rolled

4:41

into Sunday with all the momentum

4:43

and it would have at least gone to six

4:45

seven games back in Boston. So Dodger

4:48

fans all agree with Donald

4:50

Trump. It was funny yesterday. I'm on Twitter

4:53

and I see Coope, our very own Coop

4:55

Reach tweeting Donald Trump and agreeing

4:58

with him. That's when I wondered if the

5:00

world was spinning, you know, the other

5:02

direction on its axis. So when

5:04

Cooper is agreeing with Donald Trump, you know

5:07

that Dave Robertson upstairs in the front

5:09

office, they done screwed up. It

5:12

is pretty wild. I mean, I really do think that's

5:14

probably the only thing that Donald Trump has

5:16

ever sent out and certainly his political

5:19

era, that everybody almost universally

5:21

in the city of Los Angeles has agreed with.

5:24

But I think it speaks to a larger issue,

5:26

which is I don't understand

5:28

why managers get into the postseason and they

5:30

turned these games into I

5:33

mean, you know what, there was like

5:35

eighteen pictures or whatever the heck there was in

5:37

that eighteen any game at least that went forever.

5:40

But a lot of those guys come in for one batter

5:42

and then and then they disappear. I just think

5:44

it's a I think it's a messy situation.

5:46

I think also if you're a Dodger fan, that

5:48

one feels all the worst because you

5:51

look back and you think, man, we've

5:53

been in the World Series for two straight years.

5:55

It's so hard to get in the World Series.

5:58

Has that window close on

6:00

this particular team? You figure

6:02

Machado is probably gonna go elsewhere.

6:05

Uh. You also figure Clayton Kershaw, who has

6:07

been such a dominant picture for so long,

6:10

I believe he's got an option to decide where he

6:12

wants to go. And also the question of has

6:14

he reached kind of the apex and is he now

6:16

on the back side of his career. It's

6:18

just a team that's gonna look a lot different,

6:21

notwithstanding the fact that they have some good

6:23

young stars. But baseball comes

6:25

to a close, big win for the Red

6:27

Sox, and to me, the storyline on

6:29

the Red Sox, and we've we've talked about this some on

6:32

on the show. This is their fourth

6:34

title since two thousand

6:36

four. And so for

6:39

a lot of people out there listening right now to

6:41

start off their morning, two thousand four

6:43

doesn't seem like it was that long ago,

6:46

right, It doesn't seem to you like it was that long

6:48

ago. It's whatever it is fourteen years

6:51

ago that two thousand four existed.

6:54

But if you are a kid right now listening

6:56

to me, and there are a lot of kids listening

6:59

on their way into high school, on their way into

7:01

middle school, with your parents in the car,

7:03

whatnot. You basically

7:05

now know the Boston Red Sox as

7:08

the most dominant franchise in

7:10

Major League Baseball history. In

7:12

your life and most kids I remember

7:14

being a young kid, when you're fourteen or

7:16

fifteen years old, you don't care about

7:18

anything that really happened before you were

7:20

born. So if there are kids out there

7:22

that are fourteen, fifteen, even twenty,

7:26

you know there's an entire generation of

7:28

American sports fans now because most

7:30

kids, if you're twenty, you don't

7:32

really remember anything in the world of sports

7:34

before two thousand four. Most

7:36

kids out there listening to us right now, college

7:39

kids their lifespan,

7:42

the Boston Red Sox are the most dominant

7:45

Major League Baseball franchise of

7:47

all time. I think John Morosi said

7:50

to us, which was pretty funny,

7:52

that he was talking to a buddy and

7:54

that buddy said who are you rooting for?

7:56

And asked his kid, who are you rooting

7:58

for in the Red Sox Key Series? And

8:01

he said the Yankees because they never win,

8:04

which is just so amazing to think

8:06

about. As the world of sports changing

8:09

in an utterly different direction, the

8:12

Boston Red Sox were the

8:14

ultimate losing franchise in

8:17

all of American pro sports, and

8:19

in the last fifteen years they

8:21

have turned into one of the greatest

8:23

championship franchises of all time

8:25

and even wilder. If you go all

8:27

the way back to two thousand now, so

8:30

you just think about twenty first century

8:32

baseball, the Red Sox

8:34

have got more titles I believe I

8:36

am correct on this now since two thousand

8:39

than the Yankees. Look that up to make sure.

8:42

I think if you go back to the year two thousand,

8:44

so you just say, okay, let's only talk

8:46

about twenty first century baseball.

8:49

The Red Sox are the eight

8:51

hundred pound guerrilla and the Yankees

8:53

are the franchise that is hoping to one day

8:55

catch up to the standards of Boston

8:57

Red Sox excellence. So that is an

9:00

unbelievable alteration in

9:02

the space time continuum

9:04

of the world of sports. It's it's just for

9:07

somebody like me who's thirty nine, it's

9:09

amazing to think about the Boston Red Sox

9:11

as the most successful franchise in

9:14

Major League Baseball now with its fourth

9:16

title. The Red Sox are since two

9:18

thousand four and for a lot of you out

9:20

there who are older than me. You

9:23

grew up with this. Oh, the Red Sox will

9:25

never win a championship, this sort

9:27

of h New England fatalism.

9:29

Oh, we're always going to find a way to lose,

9:32

and man, just another championship

9:35

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done. I am convinced, beyond the shadow

9:49

of a doubt that the Jamis Winston era in Tampa

9:51

Bay is over his performance again

9:53

the turnover situation seventy

9:55

one turnovers. Jamis Winston has had in

9:58

forty eight games as a starter for the champion A

10:00

Buccaneers, Jamis Winston

10:02

has thrown more interceptions than

10:05

anybody else in the NFL,

10:08

and he has only played

10:11

in four games total, three

10:13

starts. Jamis Winston

10:15

tied for the NFL lead, I should say

10:18

with ten interceptions. He's

10:20

only started three games and

10:23

he's only played in four games,

10:26

so he's played about half as

10:28

much as anybody else has

10:30

and he is now tied for the NFL

10:32

lead with ten interceptions. We've

10:35

got audio of Jamis

10:38

Winston being asked about being benched.

10:40

Let's listen to that right here. It was

10:42

very humbling, but it's

10:44

not about me. It's my fault that we

10:46

were in that position. He had to make a decision

10:48

and Fitz came in there. I thought his til off offense

10:51

responded greatly and we came back

10:54

in tip day game up and gave use It was a chance.

10:56

I just know that I have to fix

10:58

this problem, and I will. I know

11:00

I will. It don't come with being

11:03

being scared. It comes with looking

11:05

in the mirror, taking a long, hard,

11:07

deep look at myself and bouncing back

11:09

from this. Yeah, I will persevere it. Sometimes

11:12

interceptions are not all on

11:14

the quarterback. I went back and

11:16

watched all four of the Jamis

11:19

Winston interceptions. I think they

11:21

were all four on the quarterback. I

11:23

don't think somebody ran the wrong route and

11:25

left him out to dry. I don't think you got a

11:27

tip ball that went up into the air

11:30

and you know it just had a bad break and

11:32

somebody else caught it. These

11:34

were four bad throws, and he's

11:36

now had ten bad throws. And I come back

11:38

again and again to Jamis Winston saying well, I'll

11:40

get it fixed. What part of that are

11:42

you gonna get fixed? You have played

11:44

in forty eight games as a starting quarterback

11:46

in the NFL, Jameis Winston. You

11:49

have turned the ball over fifty times

11:51

via interception and twenty

11:53

one times via fumbles. This

11:56

is what Jamis Winston is. Forty

11:59

eight games, seventy one

12:01

turnovers. Nobody else

12:03

is even close to those numbers

12:05

at the quarterback position. And it's

12:07

not as if you can say, well, yes, he's

12:09

a gun slinger. He throws a lot of interception,

12:12

but the results have been positive. He's

12:14

throwing a lot of touchdown passes and leading

12:16

his teams to victory. To know, the

12:19

Bucks have been awful with Jamis Winston at

12:21

quarterback. Now's not all his fault. The

12:23

reason partly that they were down so much

12:25

against the Bengals is because their defense stinks.

12:28

This is not a good team that he's a

12:30

part of from a defensive perspective.

12:33

But every time Ryan Fitzpatrick comes in,

12:36

there's really good offensive talent in

12:38

the passing game. O. J. Howard's

12:40

a really good NFL tight end. Fits

12:43

Magic hit him for the tying touchdown.

12:46

DeShawn Jackson is a really

12:48

good number two NFL wide

12:50

receiver. Mike Evans, if

12:53

he had a great quarterback, is

12:55

as good of a wide receiver as

12:57

there is in the NFL. Zero

13:00

doubt, Mike Evans one of the ten best wide receivers

13:02

in the NFL, especially when

13:04

you consider the quarterback play that he's

13:06

had to deal with. The guy just

13:08

gets open, and if he's

13:10

not open, you can throw him open because he's

13:13

such a ridiculous athlete, as we've seen

13:15

all the way back to when he was making

13:17

plays with Johnny Manzel at Texas

13:19

A and M. I don't think that

13:22

you can continue with Jamis Winston. I think this is

13:24

the first big decision that

13:26

a team is going to have to make. If

13:28

you are dirt cutter, are you willing

13:31

to give Jamis Winston

13:33

the reins to your team for the

13:35

rest of the year in a really

13:38

difficult NFC South, Remember,

13:40

you gotta play Cam in the Panthers. You

13:43

gotta play you already have played at

13:45

least once the Atlanta

13:47

Falcons in that offense with Matt Ryan, and

13:49

you have to play Drew Brees

13:51

again. Fitz was amazing. He went on the road

13:54

and beat the Saints. That's

13:56

how good the ceiling can be for

13:58

this Tampa Bay Buccaneers team. If

14:01

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editions of out Kick the Coverage with Clay Travis

14:06

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14:08

Pacific on Fox Sports Radio

14:10

and the I Heart Radio app. To me,

14:13

one of the biggest stories, if not the biggest

14:15

story going forward in the NFL is

14:18

now, what do the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

14:20

do? Because guess what, Fits Magic

14:22

came back in rallied the Buccaneers

14:25

from an eight team point deficit after

14:27

Jamis Winston had thrown four interceptions

14:30

in less than three quarters of football.

14:33

Fits Magic comes in and performs

14:35

in a magic and spectacular fashion.

14:38

I believe you have to bench Jamis Winston

14:40

for the rest of the year. There's no way

14:42

I'm going to give Jamis Winston twenty

14:45

million dollars going forward. We will get

14:47

our guy O G who wants to defend Jamis

14:49

Winston here momentarily. We'll

14:51

talk also to Alex Marvez. Couple

14:53

of stats for you. Jamis Winston

14:56

has now played in forty eight games in

14:58

his NFL career. He's throw owned

15:00

fifty interceptions and fumbled

15:02

twenty one times seventy

15:05

one turnovers for Jamis Winston

15:07

in forty eight games. Nobody else

15:10

is even close. He's only started three

15:12

games so far in this NFL

15:14

season, and he leads the

15:16

NFL right now in turnovers

15:19

at the interceptions with ten.

15:21

He's tied for the lead even though he's

15:23

only started three games. I think you have

15:26

to stick with fits Magic. I think you roll with

15:28

him for the rest of the year. No way you can

15:30

give Jamis Winston twenty million dollars.

15:32

I think you have to cut ties. This doesn't even consider

15:35

the fact that he has been suspended

15:37

for three games for sexual assault.

15:40

This is just on the field. It's

15:42

not even like he's been perfect off the field.

15:44

But I'm talking about just on the field performances.

15:47

O G still with us in Florida. We

15:49

got O G. You

15:51

think the Bucks should stick with Jamis Winston.

15:53

Make your case. Of

15:56

course, I do it. I don't make the contracts

15:58

right, so I don't. I don't want to go to the contracts.

16:00

He should get twenty million dollars, but

16:04

you have to put hold on it's not your

16:06

contract. He gets twenty million dollars

16:09

if the Bucks keep him. That's his fifth year

16:11

option value. So if

16:13

the Bucks are going to keep him, he

16:15

gets twenty million dollars. So you don't you don't make the contract.

16:17

But that's how much he's going to get next year if

16:20

they keep him. Yes, I

16:22

understand that. But since fitz Patrick

16:24

has been in the league. He did it in Buffalo, he

16:26

did it at the Jets, he did. I mean we

16:28

know what, right,

16:31

he's an average Really, No, at the forty

16:33

eight games. You said forty eight

16:35

games. We don't really know what Weston is

16:37

at the forty eight games. I mean he never played

16:39

a whole see he said he did. You

16:42

don't think games is enough

16:44

to make a decision on whether a guy is your starting

16:46

quarterback or not. No,

16:49

but you gotta give your first round pick

16:51

every chance possible

16:55

to succeed. All right,

16:57

he's got more turn up. He's got seventy one

16:59

turnover in forty eight games. He

17:01

has got right now, and he's leading

17:04

the NFL and interceptions. I

17:06

did have more? What'd

17:09

you say? I bet

17:11

you Fitzpatrick has more. No

17:13

way, Ryan fitzpet Just based

17:15

on what you've seen on the field so far

17:17

this year. Ryan Fitzpatrick has

17:20

come out and he has won you two

17:22

football games. He went on the road and he

17:24

was good enough to beat the New Orleans

17:26

Saints, who have only lost one game so

17:29

far this year. He was good enough

17:31

to beat the Philadelphia Eagles, who are pretty

17:33

good team. They had the ball with a

17:35

chance to beat the Steelers, pretty good football

17:37

team. There. He played one bad

17:39

half against the Bears. The entire team

17:42

was awful. In fact, the defense was

17:44

by far. They gave up six touchdown passes

17:46

to Mitch Rabinsky. The defense was

17:48

the reason why they lost. Not Ryan Fitzpatrick.

17:51

They benched him. Jamis Winston

17:53

came back through a couple of interceptions,

17:56

lost against the Falcons. They were

17:58

incredibly fortunate to beat the

18:00

Browns and overtime in Tampa

18:02

Bay and Winston through

18:04

another couple of interceptions and wasn't very

18:06

good and then they were getting blown out.

18:09

When when Jamis Winston came

18:11

in and threw four interceptions. I mean, that is

18:13

evidence on the field through seven

18:15

games that Jamis is not the answer.

18:17

So you would stick with him,

18:20

of course I would, because we really

18:23

didn't give him a chance. He's been injured this year, you

18:25

know, hasn't been injured.

18:28

Hold on, Jamis wasn't injured, he

18:30

was suspended for sexual assault. You

18:32

gotta get a chance to get back into your rhythm at the

18:34

same time too. Now his

18:38

rhythm has been throwing intercept. Thanks for the call. This is

18:40

a disastrous argument for O G in Florida. There's

18:43

no reasonable football fan who

18:46

can't have watched Ryan Fitzpatrick play

18:48

this year and can have watched

18:51

Jamis Winston play this year and

18:53

say Jamis Winston should be the

18:55

starting quarterback for the NFL, for an

18:57

NFL franchise compared to

18:59

what these two guys have done. I'm not even getting

19:01

into the fact that I think if de Sean

19:04

Jackson and Mike Evans and

19:06

O. J. Howard were asked who do you

19:08

want is your quarterback? I think they would all

19:10

say Ryan Fitzpatrick. You

19:13

watch the body language on that team. I think

19:15

if you asked that offensive line, who do you want is

19:17

your starting quarterback? I think they would all say

19:19

Ryan Fitzpatrick. Now

19:22

I don't disagree. Ryan Fitzpatrick has proven

19:24

that he is not an elite level quarterback

19:27

in the NFL. You're

19:29

gonna give twenty million dollars to Jamis Winston.

19:33

That's crazy to me. I

19:35

think the Bucks right now, they give the reins

19:37

to Ryan Fitzpatrick. If

19:39

Fitzpatrick goes off

19:42

the rails, truly plays

19:44

a couple of bad games in a row, maybe

19:46

you hand the reins back over to Jamis. If

19:49

the Bucks get eliminated from any kind

19:51

of playoff contention, maybe you say,

19:53

okay, Jamis Winston, you can finish the season.

19:57

The problem is if Jamis Winston gets

19:59

in Jared that twenty million

20:01

dollars is guaranteed to him,

20:05

do you really want to stick? I mean, I'll

20:07

pull the pull the audience here. Let

20:09

me pull my crew. Danny g yes

20:12

or no? Do you stick with? Or who do

20:14

you go with? Fits fitz Patrick or Jamis

20:16

Winston. I don't think Fitzpatrick

20:18

is the long term solution, but I would go

20:21

with him right now. All right, what about you, Roberto?

20:24

Agree with Danny there? All right? What about

20:26

you? Ralph Irvan is he there? Yeah?

20:28

You gotta you gotta get rid of Winston

20:31

right now. It's kind of like what they did in Buffalo with

20:33

Tyrod Taylor a couple of years ago. All

20:36

right, what about you, Dub What do you think? I'm

20:38

in agreement? So we have how

20:40

it's relatively rare that

20:43

all five people, myself,

20:46

dub Ralph Irvin, who's sitting in

20:48

for Eddie Garcia, Roberto and

20:50

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20:53

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20:55

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21:52

right off the jump, here is the Jamis Winston

21:54

era in Tampa Bay Over. I

21:56

believe it is. And you know, here's part of the thing you have to

21:58

consider as well. And you know, Heaven forbid, I'm

22:00

not I'm not trying to, you know, wish bad ill upon

22:03

anyone. But if Jamis Winston were to

22:05

get injured and weren't healthy by the middle

22:07

of March, and this is something the Bucks have to be thinking about

22:09

a little bit. Here they're on the hook for

22:11

twenty one million dollars

22:14

in base salary for Jamis Winston. That

22:17

is the fifth year in his rookie option

22:19

contract, if you understand what I'm saying here. So you

22:22

know, we saw with Jason Varetta the l A Chargers

22:24

they couldn't cut him last offseason

22:26

because it would have had to pay him his entire salary.

22:29

It's the same with Jamis Winston. And at this point ten

22:31

interceptions leads the NFL. But let's

22:33

not forget Jamis missed the first

22:35

three games. Do you think de Sean Jackson is talking

22:37

about wanting to get traded from Tampa Bay if Ryan

22:39

Fitzpatrick is still his quarterback and listen,

22:42

Fits has his flaws, but at least he doesn't

22:44

turn the football over nearly as much as

22:46

Jamis Winston is. Right now, I mean, this Bucks team,

22:48

you're talking almost historically bad when

22:50

it comes to turnover margins and and things like

22:53

that. Play. I mean, they're tied for last and turnover

22:55

margin and minus thirteen their lasting

22:57

turnovers with nineteen, last and interceptions

22:59

thrown with fifteen. Oh and by the way, throwing

23:01

a defense that's tied for second worst in

23:03

takeaways with just six. So think

23:06

about that margin that they're working on here.

23:08

And of course you put a five seventy six yards

23:10

of offense yesterday against the Bengals and it didn't

23:13

matter. You still lose. Jameis

23:15

gott a fit man. So

23:17

if he sits and you go

23:19

with Ryan Fitzpatrick, are you then saying

23:21

on top of that that you would let him

23:24

go at the end of the season. If you're the Bucks, I

23:26

think you have to. I mean, what because what's what's

23:28

the end game here? You're gonna pay twenty one million dollars

23:30

for Jamis Winston. I mean, what is it? Nick Saban

23:32

was the one who once told told me, and I'm sure you've

23:34

heard it. You know, if you keep doing the same things, you get the same

23:37

results. Guaranteed. It's the same thing with Jamis

23:39

Winston. Those four interceptions yesterday to play, when

23:41

you look at him, they weren't anyone else's

23:43

fault but Jamis Winston. It wasn't like there was

23:45

a dB making a great play. It wasn't like there

23:47

was a tip pass. It wasn't like there was a wide receiver

23:50

out of position. It was again more Jamis

23:52

Winston bad judgments. When he's throwing

23:54

the football, he doesn't take care of it. He is far too

23:56

sloppy with the ball, and after a while you just have

23:58

to realize this is what Jamis Winston is. I

24:00

think this was the game where you just really figure out

24:03

this is Jamis Winston because it's not a

24:05

supporting castle. He got a decent enough support from

24:07

the running game. Mike Evans is fantastic,

24:09

DeShawn Jackson still one of the game's deep threats.

24:11

You got two really good tight end Cambray no j

24:13

Howard, Chris Godwin would be starting on other

24:15

teams. He's their number three wide receiver. I

24:17

mean, so that's what I think you have to do. You move on

24:20

from it. Now, what's the answer at quarterback?

24:22

That's a little bit tough, right, because the Bucks find themselves

24:24

in that nether World type position where

24:26

you're you're too good to get a top

24:28

pick, like a top three or four pick, you

24:31

know, and you're probably picking in the middle of the round. But

24:33

you're not bad, you know, you know what I mean, You're good enough

24:35

to be in the middle of the pack. So Clay, I don't

24:37

know what their answer is. But listen, Kansas City and Houston

24:39

figured it out right. They made trades for you

24:42

know, for for Deshaun Watson

24:44

and for Patrick Mahomes. And there were teams

24:46

that had made the playoffs the previous here and they're doing just fine.

24:49

So whoever is running the show in Tampa Bay. And

24:51

that's one more thing about this, Clay to point out here.

24:53

If you're dirt Cutter, you need to win now.

24:55

You do not want to risk your job going another

24:57

season without a playoff appearance.

24:59

I would imagine Jason Light in the same boat the GM.

25:02

So you need to put whoever is on the field right now, that's

25:04

going to give you that chance. And Ryan Fitzpatrick does all

25:06

right, So what's the value? What is Jamison

25:09

w Let's let's say that they say we're not gonna give Jamis

25:11

Winston twenty one million dollars. What's

25:13

he worth on the open market in the NFL.

25:15

He's a young guy. Would somebody give him seven or eight

25:18

million dollars? Ten million? I mean, I

25:20

have no idea Sam Sam Bradford made

25:22

sixteen this past year. I think let's

25:24

roll that one around in our head right there, right and

25:26

to Rod Taylor is picking up ten million

25:28

dollars sitting on the bench in Cleveland.

25:31

So he's one of those guys that a team is going to convince

25:33

itself, hey, I can fix Jamis Winston right and

25:35

we'll have him as our starter. Maybe a short term

25:37

type of deal. But I would imagine that that about

25:40

ten million is where he would be at. Maybe

25:42

a little bit more just depends to and if a team

25:44

sees something in him that that others don't. I mean, we're talking

25:46

about a league that gave Mike Lennon a three year,

25:48

forty five million dollar contract to Chicago Bears

25:51

a couple of years ago. So there's a sucker born every

25:53

minute play. And I believe there'll be someone that

25:55

pays for Jamis Winston, whether they have Buyers

25:57

or Morse down the road. That's another story altogether. Saints

26:00

get a massive win on the road, helped

26:02

to exorcize some of those demons

26:05

that they got last season in Minnesota.

26:07

Are the Saints the second best team in

26:09

the NFC right now? Maybe the

26:12

first best depending on what we see next Sunday

26:14

right against the Rams, and that is just going to be such a monster,

26:16

monster contest. And listen if the Rams,

26:18

if if they're going to go down anytime soon, I think this

26:21

is it. This is one of those tough games you're going

26:23

on the road. Listen to the Saints that that

26:25

win was big last name, not only because they beat Minnesota

26:27

and exercise those those demons or whatever,

26:29

but think about it too. They just come off that road game

26:31

against Baltimore and what a tough, draining

26:34

game that is. And then you go back out on the road

26:36

to play the Minnesota Vikings. Although I

26:38

do think injuries played a pretty big part in wine,

26:40

Minnesota didn't do as well last night. They've got

26:43

some issues with Kirk Cousins as well. Listen, the offense.

26:45

The offense is limited here, Clay. They have to

26:47

throw the football so quickly. The teams

26:49

are figuring out that they can bat down kirk Cousins

26:51

passes. He's actually on a record setting pace

26:53

for the most passes deflected at the line

26:56

of scrimmage in NFL history. So

26:58

they need to figure out something else. They to hope that Dalvin

27:00

coach hamstring comes around and he's able to

27:02

play sometime soon, maybe be able to open up

27:04

some things a little bit more for them deep but for the

27:06

Saints list and Marcus Davenport coming to life last

27:09

night with two sacks, that's big for this team.

27:11

Eli Apple, He's going to go through his learning

27:13

curve trying to get down this defense, but he

27:15

does upgrade a secondary that needed a little bit

27:17

more help. And of course we know the Saints are going to score

27:19

points. I think they're the second best team in the NFC, but

27:21

next Monday when we talk, they may very well be the

27:23

first. Are

27:26

the Jags done? Yeah, oh

27:28

yeah, they're done, big time done. But you

27:30

know, hey, at least have a thousand dollar party

27:32

on the way out right. I

27:35

mean, well, Clay, you know I heard about the thirty two dollar

27:37

tab you and your family ran up, but that was for a lot

27:39

of chocolate milkshakes and things like that. And mean,

27:41

I get it. You've got kids and they're growing, so

27:43

I understand that, But I mean think about

27:45

that. You know your team, you've lost three straight,

27:48

You've been outscored nine eight

27:50

in these games. You have a huge contest coming

27:52

up, and what are you doing. You're going to a burlesque show.

27:55

You know before the game, did Doug Moron have a curfew?

27:57

I don't think anyone's figured this out here. I'm still trying to get

27:59

to the bottom of it, because guys were out you

28:01

know what past four in the morning. I mean is when they were

28:03

being detained early Saturday morning. They did have a walk

28:05

through practice the next day. I'm not saying that's

28:07

why the Jacks lost. The Jacks are losing because

28:09

their offense is so beat up, and Blake Borders

28:12

just simply isn't a difference making quarterback in the passing

28:14

game. That's it through without their top running back

28:16

there, without their top wide receiver. They're onto their

28:18

third string left tackle, and they've lost their starting

28:20

tight end. But other than that, Mrs Lincoln, the play

28:22

was absolutely fabulous. You know, in the defense

28:25

isn't stepping up either. They're not playing

28:27

difference making football outside of Calias

28:29

Campbell Jalen Ramsey at his first interception of the

28:31

season. But let's be honest, this isn't the same

28:33

group the type of impact that they were making when they

28:35

were talking so much trash in seventeen.

28:37

They're in a lot of trouble and listen, teams are heating up to

28:40

Houston Texans five straight wins for the first

28:42

time since two thousand and twelve. The Colts

28:44

have now won two straight games for the first time since

28:46

November. Yes, I know, making

28:48

small steps, but nonetheless a dangerous

28:51

team down the stretch. And by the way, Indianapolis

28:53

doesn't really face anybody all that much

28:55

down the road here when it comes to contending for the postseason.

28:57

Indianapolis the only remaining team with a winning

29:00

record on their schedule is Houston. So

29:02

keep an eye on the Colts making a move in Tennessee is

29:04

gonna put her along. And you know, we talked about a

29:06

quarterback decision at the end of the season. Marcus Mariota

29:09

said to make the same type of base salary as

29:11

Jameis Winston. Is he a twenty million dollar quarterback?

29:13

You know, in going

29:16

into the final Europe his deal. But they're

29:18

still gonna be pesky along the way.

29:20

Jacksonville just doesn't have it this year. I think the team

29:22

really overcalculated on Blake Bortles obviously

29:25

in that regard and thinking that he was going to be good enough

29:27

to get him there. But again, how do you judge Blake with all

29:29

the injuries. Well, great quarterbacks lift their teams

29:31

through these types of circumstances. He is not. Tomorrow

29:35

is the trade deadline, I believe four

29:37

o'clock Eastern, if I'm not mistaken. The

29:39

day before Halloween, the Giants

29:42

go out and get walloped again.

29:44

They're one in seven. There are a lot of

29:46

teams right now turning the page

29:48

I think already and saying

29:51

let's get ready for next season. We're halfway

29:53

through, We're out of the running. What guys

29:55

do you think potentially could be moving?

29:57

Who's looking to make moves as

29:59

we come up on this? Uh? Basically

30:02

what thirty six hours left in

30:04

the NFL trade deadline? The

30:06

funny part is who do you want? Right? Who

30:09

do you want on the on the Giants defense

30:11

that Adrian Peterson is still gaining yards

30:13

on? Okay, apparently this

30:16

run the day Drian Peterson had yesterday, His sixty

30:18

yard touchdown run is the longest by

30:20

someone aged thirty three or older since Jim

30:22

Thorpe. Jim

30:25

Thorpe, it was the third hundred forty nine

30:27

yards, the third most productive rushing game for

30:29

a back in NFL history over the age

30:31

thirty three or over since John Riggins

30:33

and John Henry Johnson, a Pro Football

30:35

Hall of Famer from yesteryear. Okay, that's

30:38

where we're at with Adrian Peterson going for yards.

30:40

Oh, no sacks along the way as well

30:42

by the New York Giants. They're lousy. Look, I

30:44

don't know if Olivier Vernon has some some you

30:46

know, rev you know, some value to a

30:48

team because he is a very good pass rusher, just isn't

30:50

really making an impact in this type of system. Genora's

30:52

Jenkins, even though he gets spun around like a top sometime.

30:55

You know, if Eli Apple has trade value that maybe

30:57

Genora's Jenkins does to a team. Landing

31:00

One's name has now surfaced. He's in the final year

31:02

of his contracts, although a potential franchise

31:04

tag designate for him. We know two guys who

31:06

aren't going to be on the move, Eli Manning. He's not going

31:08

anywhere. He has no trade clause. And I'll be

31:10

honest with you, Clay, this may be the swan song of Eli

31:12

Manning. Like you know, we just for

31:14

whatever you can enjoy of twenty eighteen of

31:16

Eli Manning. I think that might be it. I

31:19

just get the feeling that that this might be it at the end of

31:21

the year and he might just call it a career because

31:23

his skills have just declined to a pretty severe

31:25

point. And we know the Giants are going to be moving on a quarterback,

31:27

and where does he want to go to try and reinvent himself.

31:30

Not sure that that's really going to be happening. We know Odell

31:32

Beckham Jr. Isn't on the move, but isn't it amazing play

31:34

the narrative about is Odell Beckham

31:36

happy in New York? He signed a contract

31:39

paying him an average of sixteen point four

31:41

million dollars a year, making in the highest

31:43

paid wide receiver in NFL history. And we've got

31:45

in Odell Beckham Jr. Is allowing

31:47

people to go down the road to this narrative about

31:49

him not being happy. Are you kidding?

31:51

The Giants are a mess? You play. The Giants have become

31:54

the Jets, by the way, and the Jets, well, they're

31:56

not the Giants quite yet. They're They're

31:58

far closer in that direction than the Giants becoming

32:00

the Giants because the Giants are being run incompetently,

32:03

starting with ownership on down. It

32:06

is pretty wild to think about. Now.

32:08

There are a lot of quarterbacks out there, Sam

32:10

Bradford, you mentioned him earlier, Teddy

32:13

Bridgewater, Tyrod Taylor. Do

32:15

you see any quarterback moving between

32:17

now and tomorrow? I don't see

32:19

it because I don't you know what Jacksonville, who do you get Toront

32:22

Taylor might be the best guy because he can run for

32:24

his life and he doesn't commit turnovers, But does

32:26

he make any impact plays in the passing game? I mean,

32:28

aren't you just aren't you just doing the same thing

32:30

with Blake Bortles and at least you know bordles and strengths

32:32

and weaknesses and can cover them up. Is that really

32:34

an upgrade? I mean, could you imagine Eli Manning or Sam

32:36

Bradford and I know Eli again, the no trade clause

32:39

is not going to wave it. But if Tom Coplan wanted to

32:41

try to go get this guy, could you imagine him standing

32:43

back there in the pocket, having it collapse on him and him

32:45

going down again. I mean, when Booker McFarland

32:47

called him a lawn ornament on Monday Night

32:49

Football, I mean, what a damning indictment of

32:51

Eli Manning because he can't move. Speaking

32:54

of can't move, Sam Bradford can't

32:56

move, He's someone that that's a mobile himself.

32:58

Teddy Bridgewater I taught of makeing loom. It's the Saints

33:00

GM about this. Look. He actually

33:02

wants to keep him beyond teen.

33:05

They made that that trade for a third round pick

33:07

for him, but really he may just end up being in an expense

33:09

expensive insurance policy because Taysom Hill

33:12

is such an intriguing guy, and they actually do refer

33:14

to him as Jim Thorpe on the faint, that's

33:16

his nickname there because he's such a throwback

33:18

guy. But listen, they're developing him

33:20

and developing him as a QB. He's got

33:22

armstrength of man, he can run the football. He's obviously

33:24

added an interesting element when they do their Wildcats

33:27

stuff. So I find him a fascinating

33:29

guy. But I don't see anyone on the move

33:31

right now. I just really don't play. And part of that is because

33:33

of the NFL itself, they change the rules.

33:35

Quarterbacks are getting injured at a much much

33:38

slower rate than they have been in recent

33:40

seasons. I mean, who's out Josh Allen, Buffalo

33:42

is not going to make a move. You know who's out there for Miami

33:44

brock Oswaller. You're gonna stick with him. But they're

33:47

hoping that they get Ryan Tanney Hill back sooner than later.

33:49

They're really just hasn't been in San Francisco.

33:51

They're going with C. J. Bethard. I mean, they could

33:53

have made a move earlier on, but instead they're not. And I

33:55

don't envision them because you know, really they're

33:57

going nowhere fast. Why give up draft picks if you're

33:59

not innings? So at this point play, I think

34:01

the quarterback market is pretty set. I

34:03

mean, I just don't see anyone making that type of mood

34:05

because I don't see a system fit out there for a team

34:08

with these qubs that are available. You

34:11

mentioned that the Saints may be the best

34:13

team in the NFL. What did you think about

34:16

a game that a lot of people were watching between

34:18

the Packers and the Rams? What stood

34:20

out to you? The Rams?

34:22

You know, listen, they figured the second half such

34:25

a different half, right, and they figured out some of the things

34:27

that the Packers were doing on the defensive side of the football.

34:29

Todd Gurley right now is absolutely ridiculous,

34:32

Clay. He is the only running back in the NFL

34:34

who is averaging one d rushing yards

34:37

a game, eight hundred on the dot. How about

34:39

this, Priest Holmes and Jim Brown, those

34:41

are the only other players in NFL history

34:43

that have fifteen touchdowns fifteen

34:46

through the first eight games of the season.

34:48

Oh and by the way, think about this, Todd Gurley doesn't

34:50

care about the numbers. He cares about winning. This

34:52

is a guy who goes ahead and takes and

34:55

doesn't go in the end zone late in the fourth quarter

34:57

because he didn't want Green Bay to have another chance to

34:59

touch the foot ball. Speaking of the Packers, really interesting

35:01

story by Mike Silver at NFL dot

35:03

com about this about how the Packers are absolutely

35:05

furious at time Montgomery. How Ti went

35:07

into business for himself. Apparently he was upset

35:10

at being benched in the fourth quarter of the game and

35:12

other running backs getting spots in the rotation. So

35:15

even though he was told taking knee in the end zone,

35:17

he didn't. He ran out with the football he fumbled.

35:20

Aaron Rodgers doesn't get touch the football again. That's

35:22

it. It's Mike McCarthy and you know

35:24

Gooden Couster GM. If they don't

35:26

cut time Montgomery today, I just wonder where's

35:28

his Packers team had it. I wasn't all that bullish on them

35:31

entering this season. I just think it's Aaron Rodgers

35:33

and a bunch of other guys and it Listen, they're

35:35

gonna be under five hundred after Sunday

35:37

night when they played the Patriots next week, Chiefs.

35:40

What an unbelievable performance by the

35:42

Chiefs again, Uh they win by

35:45

seven. Are the Broncos basically

35:47

done? Do you think they could look to unload anybody

35:50

to Marius Thomas's name has certainly

35:52

been out there, along with I think Emmanuel

35:54

Sanders, like, there's been a lot of talk about them potentially

35:56

trading a wide receiver. What do you think the Broncos

35:59

are gonna do? What do you think of

36:01

the Chiefs as we move forward, are they the

36:03

unquestioned best team in the a f C. I

36:05

mean, even Damarius Thomas is saying it's like fifty

36:07

fifty if he stays. Part of the problem with Damarrius

36:10

says, if you acquire him, it's not like you're acquiring him

36:12

for the long term because next year he's set to make

36:14

fourteen million dollars in base salary.

36:16

And we all know Damarius Thomas at this point of his career

36:18

is not a fourteen million dollar a year type

36:21

of player. I mean, still he's still good,

36:23

but not fourteen million dollars a year Clay

36:25

Travis type money. You understand what I'm saying. So,

36:27

I mean, but there's a chance of a team thinks he's a short

36:30

term fix for them, He'll make that type of move.

36:32

Sanders is going to stay. He still has some juice. By

36:34

the way, Courtland and listen, it's a testament also

36:36

to Courtland Sutton, their second round pick out

36:38

of s m U. This guy has been fantastic

36:40

and he is ready to take to Marius Thomas's spot

36:43

in the roster. I don't see anyone else really moving

36:45

on that defense. Remember too, you know, on

36:47

on offense, fans. Joseph he needs to win to

36:49

keep his job right and and apparently John

36:51

always still teflon right now as general

36:53

manager of this team, but it has fallen apart over the past

36:56

three years. And the Broncos are going to finish near the

36:58

base in the basement, you know, third place obviously

37:00

in the a f C West, but in for Kansas

37:02

City Pat Mahomes, this is just ridiculous

37:04

what he is doing. He is the fourth quarterback in NFL

37:07

history to throw for at least four touchdown

37:09

passes in three consecutive games,

37:12

by the way, three straight games, the three hundred plus passing

37:14

yards, seven of them for um with three

37:17

hundred or more yards. Only three

37:19

quarterbacks in NFL history have done

37:21

it, and the records eight by the way, and he may very

37:23

well hit that Sunday against Cleveland in the first

37:25

half. So he's just been brilliant. It's been a fun

37:28

Chiefs team to watch. But you know what play We don't trust

37:30

him, and who do we trust? We trust in New England

37:32

Patriots, right, we don't trust the Chiefs because

37:34

their defense is still pretty leaky. They give it, gave

37:36

up twenty three points to a Broncos offense

37:38

that's having its own types of challenges. So we

37:40

love watching them play on offense, but you just wonder, at

37:42

the end of the day, are they going to be like version

37:45

of the San Diego Chargers with Dan Fouts

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moving the team up and down the field, yet the defense

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being unable to stop anybody. Good

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stuff. As always, Alex

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Marvez, he joins us an hour three every

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single Monday. We'll talk to you next week. My man sounds

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great, brother, Thank you. That is Alex Morvez.

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Go follow him on Twitter at Alex Marvez.

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We come back. Final segment of the

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show, and I'm gonna tell you the

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thing that I learned the most in both college

38:09

football and the NFL. My biggest

38:11

takeaways from the weekend that was in

38:13

football this ZAL Kicked the Coverage

38:15

on Fox Sports Radio. Be

38:17

sure to catch live editions about Kick the Coverage

38:20

with Clay Travis weekdays at six am

38:22

Eastern three am Pacific. If

38:24

you haven't seen the stweet watching the Dodgers Red

38:26

Sox final innings, It's amazing how a manager

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takes out a picture who is loose and dominating

38:31

through almost seven innings. Rich Hill of the Dodgers

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and brings in a nervous reliever who gets

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she'll act four run lead gone. Managers

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do it all the time. Big mistake. I love

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that Donald Trump's take there is so reasonable

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that everybody in Los Angeles, even if they hate

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Donald Trump as a president, nodding their

38:46

head, being like, you know what, Trump's got a good point there,

38:48

Clay. He was throwing ninety three

38:51

miles per hour when he got taken out.

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He hadn't lost anything off his pitches.

38:56

He had a one hitter going. Come

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on, it would have been a complete

39:00

game. You didn't even have to go to the bullpen.

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It would have been a totally different series two. If

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the Dodgers had stormed back to tie it up

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at two, Game five would have played

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out differently. I'm just telling you last night, and an

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absolute minimum, even if it didn't. Even

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if the Dodgers have lost Game five, they would have

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been able to go back to Boston de Finway in

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Game six and Game seven potentially

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and had a chance to win. Biggest takeaway

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from the weekend that was in college

39:25

football, I think also has

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to be what Mike Gundy had to say

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about social media. If you haven't heard this,

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Mike Gundy is famous for his rant

39:34

I'm a man, I'm forty, come after

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me if you remember that rant.

39:39

Mike Gundhi was asked his opinion

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on Twitter and social media in

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the wake of his big win over Texas,

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and he had this to say, ass

39:48

about Twitter, It's

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a platform for people that are sitting home, drawing

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into unemployment check, sitting in

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front of a keyboard. That's

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my gunna. You know what. Donald Trump had a good

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sports tweet, my gunny, I think had

40:04

a pretty good political take there. Wait.

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Twitter's kind of blowing up the country and the

40:08

fart noises are unbelievable. Fifty

40:11

year old man doing fart noises anyway, it's

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a ridiculous move. The only thing we needed

40:15

more of is my gunny to can do the whold Remember,

40:17

put your arm underneath your armpit and

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make the fart noise. My eight year old he

40:22

loves that. This is Faan's is go to move. Hey,

40:25

Dave Roberts, Dave

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Roberts in l A. You

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know that you have done gone and screwed up

40:34

when you're Dave Roberts and Donald

40:36

Trump is more popular than you in

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l A. This morning for sports fans, fort like

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man, if only Donald Trump had been the

40:43

Dodger manager, we'd have tied

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up that series at two two. You know

40:47

you've done it and screwed up when

40:50

Dave Roberts is out there right

40:52

now and people are like, if only Donald

40:54

Trump had been in the Dodger uniform in

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the bench, we'd be tied up coming

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into Game five. That's how bad

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Dave roberts managing job was. Congratulations

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with the Red Sox, Sweet Carolina. They've even managed

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to colonize now New York,

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New York and turn it into a Boston

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anthem