Dave and Chris consider things that have been unfairly demonized, from ingredients to medicinal drugs like cannabis. They are then joined by Beau Kilmer, the codirector of the RAND Drug Policy Research Center, who discusses the possible future of psychedelics in the United States. They finish with an Ask Dave.

Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris YingGuest: Beau KilmerVideo/Audio Producer: Felipe GuilherminoMajordomo Media Producers: Kelsey Rearden and David MeyerEditor: Stefano SanchezLearn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices