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about the new mission here and

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it does entail the name Major

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Domo. What does the name Major Domo

1:52

mean, Chris? A Major Domo is a

1:54

head of household and is sort

1:57

of like the concierge in a lot of

1:59

ways. who's going to sort of direct you

2:01

to... They take care of shit. They tell

2:03

you what to do. Who's a major demo

2:05

is? The wolf in Pulp Fiction. Yeah. The

2:08

guy who shows up when you ask the

2:10

fixer. I have the fixer. Yeah, yeah.

2:12

There's similar things. Ignore Chris Yang. He's

2:14

kind of the major domo. He's not.

2:16

He's actually the fixer. This is not

2:19

what we do. We would not dispose

2:21

of dead bodies too. Chris Ying as

2:23

well. And originally

2:25

when we were coming up with

2:27

Major Doma as a media company,

2:29

the reason it was named that,

2:31

I can't even remember anymore if

2:33

the restaurant name came first or that,

2:36

no, the name came first, gave it

2:38

to the restaurant, because it

2:40

just sounded good, and it

2:42

was consonant vowel consonant, and

2:44

it was the West Coast version

2:47

of Momu Fuku, in terms of

2:49

only the consonant vowel, meaning made

2:51

no sense. It just sounded good.

2:53

I remember having to call

2:56

the major food guys, being

2:58

like, dude. It's not about

3:00

that. Mario Rich. Sorry,

3:03

this is completely independent.

3:05

Was the idea that it

3:07

wasn't just going to be

3:09

about food. Clearly we're going to

3:11

talk about food. Clearly we're

3:13

going to try to find

3:16

our angles in food. But

3:18

the goal at large was

3:20

to sort of talk more about

3:22

culture at large. Because,

3:24

I don't say food can get boring,

3:27

but part of the reason we

3:29

can talk about food is we're

3:31

in it and gives us some

3:33

credibility, but it can be a

3:35

vehicle to talk about other things

3:38

within culture in our lives.

3:40

And that's why our media

3:42

company was called Major Domo. Not

3:44

minor Domo. The idea that we

3:46

would sort of provide a filter,

3:48

a guiding... voice a guiding life

3:50

for people who are interested in

3:52

the same things that we've spent

3:54

time becoming good at. And it gives us

3:57

an opportunity to talk about things

3:59

that aren't necessarily... football because most

4:01

people don't give a shit about

4:03

that from us at least you

4:06

know yeah something like we're watching

4:08

the 22 film and whatever all

4:10

12 I didn't know the terminology

4:13

anymore but I feel like this

4:15

is the time to start this

4:17

because the next year or two

4:20

are you think they're gonna get

4:22

me which are crazy even if

4:24

it's not already like 2025 go

4:27

fuck yourself oh my god but

4:29

I think with AI And again,

4:31

people can disagree with me, but

4:34

I think it's going to have

4:36

a lot more of an impact

4:38

than people might be ready for.

4:41

I talked to some smarter people,

4:43

way smarter people of myself about

4:45

it. Something that was going to

4:48

be maybe five, seven years out

4:50

is probably going to happen to

4:52

three, maybe bigger changes this year.

4:55

And just in general, I feel

4:57

like the zeitgeist is. Not everybody,

4:59

but at least I think in

5:01

people I know are a little

5:04

bit tired of being stuck to

5:06

their phones. Big time. I mean,

5:08

I know I'm posting less. I

5:11

want to keep things private more.

5:13

I think that in general, let's

5:15

just talk about food content. More

5:18

and more videos are becoming the

5:20

same. It's hard to distinguish yourself

5:22

because everyone's on this path towards.

5:25

everything being right well everybody is

5:28

building an algorithm of their own

5:30

in their heads right like I

5:32

know that A plus B plus

5:34

C equals views likes attention so

5:36

you know we're going to be

5:39

doing something we go major demoing

5:41

we're going to go back into

5:43

the explanation of why we're doing

5:45

a second and then Chris and

5:47

I are going to share some

5:50

of the things we've already started

5:52

sort of major demoing that's going

5:54

to be our That's our terminology

5:56

that we've internally used. to major

5:58

demo something in culture, right? And

6:00

clearly we're gonna start talking about

6:03

food as the vehicle to talk

6:05

about other things in culture, if

6:07

that makes any sense. But going

6:09

back to this Zite Guy shift,

6:11

people wanna be part of community,

6:14

have always wanna be part of

6:16

community. It's actually one of the

6:18

reasons why I think we started

6:20

the discord channel was to build

6:22

community. I think it's one of

6:25

the reasons why YouTube is so

6:27

popular, there's, you're basically a little

6:29

bubble. But part of

6:31

this is the bet that people

6:33

want to engage with the world

6:36

in a different way. Yeah post

6:38

pandemic Something that is analog. Yeah,

6:40

and what do we mean by

6:42

analog Chris? I mean the way

6:45

I've been thinking about it like

6:47

you said you've been off of

6:49

social media a lot I've been

6:52

trying to make my view of

6:54

the world based on my experience

6:56

of the world and less on

6:58

like what I'm seeing online, what

7:01

people are telling me the world

7:03

is like, people telling me what's

7:05

happening, people showing me what they're

7:08

supposedly doing. I'm trying to like

7:10

excise all of that digital input

7:12

from my brain and build a

7:15

worldview around what I am, you

7:17

know, seeing and touching, experiencing with

7:19

my hands. What that's not saying,

7:21

I'm like, I don't want to

7:24

read books and understand the world.

7:26

I want more of that, but

7:28

I want to be based on

7:31

something like I'm personally experiencing. Just

7:33

wanted to use food as sort

7:35

of a case study of where

7:37

we're at Food became extremely popular

7:40

via social media in a way

7:42

that Didn't exist right even blogs

7:44

and then the websites pale in

7:47

comparison to the just drastic food

7:49

culinary literacy that's out there. I

7:51

actually again, I'll quadruple down on

7:53

this the reason why food ironically

7:56

has become this thing Right. Is

7:58

because you can broadcast something whether

8:00

you're cooking it at home or

8:03

going to a restaurant. It's a.

8:05

physical like manifestation of something that's

8:07

ephemeral and it's it's currency right

8:09

it's something that you can't have

8:12

and it's one of the weird

8:14

things food is just this weird

8:16

god damn thing you it doesn't

8:19

age it's hard to you know

8:21

mass produce all of these things

8:23

but it's it's this weird paradox

8:25

where I can visually show you

8:28

something that you can't taste but

8:30

you want and because of that

8:32

I feel like food is weirdly

8:35

coincidentally a perfect sort of vehicle

8:37

to talk about this because over

8:39

the past six years really since

8:41

the beginning of the pandemic with

8:44

the beginning of TikTok becoming a

8:46

thing even though again food was

8:48

very popular yeah on Instagram etc.

8:51

But we've just exponentially seen this

8:53

culinary awareness rise to a level

8:55

that. I mean. everybody

8:58

knows so much about food and

9:00

then it dawned on us that

9:02

this is actually happening people have

9:04

been major demoing yeah without even

9:06

realizing it like all around us

9:09

all the time right like and

9:11

it goes back I mean yes

9:13

a lot of it starts like

9:15

you said with last five six

9:17

years but when I think about

9:20

like the time that we have

9:22

known each other is to me

9:24

like I had my first realization

9:26

about this when you and I

9:28

first men started started hanging out

9:30

right like In a lot of

9:33

ways, I was impressed by your

9:35

major domoing outside of food, because

9:37

I didn't want to do food

9:39

media at all. I had cooked,

9:41

I was working in high pollutant

9:43

literary publishing, and I met you,

9:46

and I was like, I don't

9:48

want to do food shit because

9:50

food shit is just food. And

9:52

then we had long conversations about

9:54

all the shit that was interesting

9:56

to you, outside of food, music

9:59

and art and philosophy and religion.

10:01

And I was like, whoa. This

10:03

is cool. all of these people

10:05

who are kind of Well known

10:07

high achieving people in their own

10:09

fields musicians actors comedians whatever all

10:12

want to be food experts and

10:14

like that's when I think it's

10:16

really started was like food is

10:18

accessible everybody wanted to get into

10:20

food every cause of technology all

10:23

right and it was It was

10:25

one of the reasons these are

10:27

all things that we made bets

10:29

on in the past over the

10:31

20 years. It was the last

10:33

part of culture after Project Runway

10:36

right happened and then Top Chef

10:38

happened but fashion becoming explained to

10:40

a larger audience than it ever

10:42

did before. And even the rise

10:44

of Anna Winter and Vogue and

10:46

celebrities becoming on covers of magazines

10:49

for fashion houses, etc. whatever. The

10:51

next logical thing of becoming a

10:53

popular mass thing was food. It

10:55

just had to. We would have

10:57

these conversations. I'm pretty sure it

10:59

probably even made a lucky peach

11:02

issue because there was nowhere else

11:04

for it to go. It did

11:06

everything in culture to the point

11:08

of literature, music, art, fashion, and

11:10

food was the next thing. So

11:12

everyone, as far as I know,

11:15

got into food. Right. And by

11:17

the way, we're sounding kind of

11:19

reactionary to it, but like... We

11:21

fucking rode that way. No, we

11:23

intentionally aligned ourselves to catch that

11:26

way. And it's funny because I

11:28

have a hard time trying to

11:30

like remember what it was like

11:32

before. The word food he didn't

11:34

exist. It did not exist. To

11:36

tell somebody you liked food. You

11:39

liked food. These are a lot

11:41

of things that I have repeated

11:43

on this podcast before. that I

11:45

had to get things translated into

11:47

Japanese for me to understand a

11:49

recipe. There was no guides, there

11:52

was no blogs, there was no

11:54

nothing, and in 20 years, not

11:56

a surprise, it's all changed. Because

11:58

food is something that everybody wants

12:00

to be knowledgeable about. We think

12:02

it's, again, this is where it

12:05

becomes something where you can't eat

12:07

it, but you can empathize the

12:09

situation. If that makes sense, is

12:11

what I'm trying to talk about

12:13

things that has an audience that

12:15

everyone can relate to. Right? Right?

12:18

It is this exclusive thing. But

12:20

I like talking about food now

12:22

in this context because if you

12:24

think about it, pretty sure that

12:26

somebody in your group of friends

12:29

is a quote-unquote foodie. Right. Somebody

12:31

in your group of friends is

12:33

a is like a unwitting player

12:35

in the heevisen prison. Right? Yeah.

12:37

Yeah. So that is a, that's

12:39

an amazing thing that we didn't

12:42

tap into to be able to

12:44

literally empathize, sympathize how someone else

12:46

might feel. We can talk about

12:48

things in a way that like,

12:50

oh yeah, I also experienced this.

12:52

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that was

12:55

like a huge, I mean, that's

12:57

like the genesis of this podcast

12:59

in a lot of ways. But

13:01

so as far as major domoing

13:03

is concerned. It's really I think

13:05

you said you know the food

13:08

knowledge was currency or like showing

13:10

off what you can eat or

13:12

have eaten his currency There is

13:14

a whole the thing about social

13:16

media also it's like there's a

13:18

lot of like Counterfeit currency out

13:21

there like that's a thing who

13:23

let's give an example of a

13:25

major domo as we get into

13:27

this starting with food what we're

13:29

talking about is not the Dave

13:32

Changs of the world not like

13:34

professional chefs who have spent their

13:36

time studying their time chefs. We're

13:38

talking about somebody from outside of

13:40

your field, you're doing something outside

13:42

of your specific workplace, you know,

13:45

expertise and dedicating yourself to it.

13:47

So to the point where if

13:49

you met Dave and he asked

13:51

you a question about food and

13:53

you expressed opinion, he'd be like,

13:55

oh, damn, like, you know, you

13:58

know, what's up. Who fits that

14:00

bill for you as a major

14:02

domo of? food of eating. I

14:04

think James Murphy is like the

14:06

Apostle Paul of this, right? James

14:08

Murphy of LCD Sound System. That

14:11

guy is the template. In fact,

14:13

when I saw recently, I said,

14:15

I'm going to do this and

14:17

you are a huge influence in

14:19

terms of being like the constellation

14:21

that a lot of other people,

14:24

whether they relays or not, are

14:26

doing. It's like I always used

14:28

the expression like, oh, they're James

14:30

Murphy and why. Right. So like

14:32

we should we should stick on

14:35

that for one second. So James

14:37

Murphy, LCD sound system. The first

14:39

question, if somebody meets him at

14:41

random and they know who he

14:43

is, they're gonna ask him about

14:45

music, right? He's he's a fucking

14:48

legendary musician, front man of a

14:50

legendary band. But if somebody were

14:52

to ask him about wine, he

14:54

might have more to say about

14:56

like wine. And how did that

14:58

come to be? And then he

15:01

dug to the center of the

15:03

earth basically, right? And he does

15:05

that with a lot of different

15:07

things. And to me, that's just

15:09

who he is. And, like, the

15:11

center of the earth. And, because

15:14

he's such a self-aware person, he's

15:16

very, very knowledgeable about things, but

15:18

he stops short of becoming a

15:20

quote-unquote expert. And I think that's

15:22

an important distinction, right? To be

15:24

able to converse with somebody about...

15:27

a field expertise slash hobby interest.

15:29

The goal is to be able

15:31

to accumulate as many of it.

15:33

It's almost like an Eagle Scout

15:35

or a. Boy Scout, you want

15:37

to accumulate as many badges as

15:40

possible, or like, being an Ohio

15:42

State bucket, you want all those

15:44

stickers on your helmet. That's what

15:46

I think this is sort of

15:48

like a game, like how do

15:51

you make this more interesting? And

15:53

it's not about quote unquote how

15:55

many you do, it's about how

15:57

deep you go in one or

15:59

two. And that was sort of

16:01

the idea. And I think you

16:04

start to think about it. I

16:06

was like, I was like, I

16:08

was like, I was like, I

16:10

was like, There are a lot

16:12

more people that do this than

16:14

just James. Yes. Yeah, a lot

16:17

of people. And one of the

16:19

reasons we're talking about food is

16:21

everybody in your group of friends.

16:23

What are some other examples of

16:25

people that maybe the audience knows

16:27

who have major dumb-oded something? Again,

16:30

this is not your work. There's

16:32

not your job. It's a hobby,

16:34

right? And it's a... It's like

16:36

when Olympians had to maintain their

16:38

amateur status. The reason why we're

16:40

talking about this is, again, our

16:43

bet that more and more people

16:45

in a world of homogenized sameness

16:47

are going to want to distinguish

16:49

themselves. Yeah. And, you know, one

16:51

of the reasons, I'm into fishing,

16:54

but I don't just do bass

16:56

fishing, which I think is cool

16:58

as fuck. So hard to do

17:00

well. Right. But you went out

17:02

even more specific, weird rabbit hole.

17:04

Because I want to be better

17:07

at this than rich white people.

17:09

Right. Which to the James Murphy

17:11

thing is like, James liked wine,

17:13

but then he was like, oh,

17:15

I want a very, I want

17:17

to be, I'm really interested in

17:20

this specific genre. But it was

17:22

also like, the whole idea of

17:24

doing it is also not to

17:26

make it more complicated to actually

17:28

make it easier, right? Like drinking

17:30

coffee. Yeah. You know, James also

17:33

went to coffee. Like, it's so

17:35

he could, it's easier for you

17:37

to bruise it himself. It's easier

17:39

if he knows the network the

17:41

network. So it's only hard until

17:43

you're good at you're good at

17:46

it. Yeah, but again, it's it's

17:48

important to know and we should

17:50

write eventually Christian as an We

17:52

should write down sort of like

17:54

the allegiance, the anthem of what

17:57

it means to Major Domo. And

17:59

one of it for sure is

18:01

to truly be a Major Domo.

18:03

To Major Domo, you can't be

18:05

bragidocious. Yes, yes, yes, yes. The

18:07

minute you start to wear your

18:10

merit badge on your sleeve, you're

18:12

not being a meridomo anymore. Simple,

18:14

simple one we talk about all

18:16

the time. I'm really into foreign

18:18

languages. I'm really into Spanish. Do

18:20

you speak Spanish? Do you speak

18:23

Spanish? No. No. Never. No. But.

18:25

Do you have good night skills,

18:27

David? No. No. No. No. No.

18:29

But internally, you're like, yeah, they're

18:31

much better than fucking everyone else

18:33

in this kitchen. It is the,

18:36

again, it is the moment, it's

18:38

also just like you're gonna look

18:40

cooler when it's like. no please

18:42

can anybody please like he's he's

18:44

saying this thing over and over

18:46

again we need to know what

18:49

he's saying well I actually know

18:51

so I think that's sort of

18:53

the goal is to get to

18:55

a level where you're proficient and

18:57

then you can move on to

19:00

the next thing it's no different

19:02

than you're like I'm bored with

19:04

this video game next you know

19:06

I love I love the you

19:08

you're describing this in the context

19:10

of just like this is this

19:13

is this is the only form

19:15

of resistance now it's like it's

19:17

exactly a form of resistance to

19:19

this I mean

19:21

to the fucking machines. It allows you

19:23

to be unpredictable. It allows you to

19:26

distinguish yourself. As a side note, you

19:28

know, when I first got to Japan

19:30

in 1999, I remember being completely blown

19:32

away. Not by this food, not by

19:35

the technology. I was blown away by

19:37

the, and it was distinctly different than

19:39

Korea back then. The flare that almost

19:41

everyone had if you weren't a salary

19:44

man. how they express themselves, clothing once.

19:46

Clothing became a vehicle to tell the

19:48

world, this is who I am, this

19:50

is what I'm about. Right. or even

19:52

hair color, just everything, there were these

19:55

minute things that people would be like,

19:57

this is who I am, and I'm

19:59

gonna, in a world where if you

20:01

wear black hair and you are Asian,

20:04

it's hard to distinguish yourself in the

20:06

crowd. And I had never seen that

20:08

before. And more or less, I feel

20:10

like we're not creating this trend. We're

20:13

again trying to align ourselves for this

20:15

wave that I would feel very confident

20:17

is going to be happening and is

20:19

happening. because you can't talk about food

20:21

forever. Right? Right? And I'm sorry that

20:24

the cutoff point to becoming a master

20:26

in food is actually extremely high. Yeah.

20:28

And very few people are going to

20:30

be able to reach that level of

20:33

expertness. Like you're never going to be

20:35

as technically great as Corey Lee. Right.

20:37

You know? Like I'm never going to

20:39

be a major demo in throwing a

20:42

football in a football. Like being a

20:44

quarterback for an effort of football team.

20:46

You know, Mena Kimes is a major

20:48

known. Oh, football, yeah, for sure. Now

20:50

she could break down film. I'm like,

20:53

fuck. Yeah, yeah, you could have done

20:55

that. I could have done that. So

20:57

that's why we're doing what we're doing

20:59

here. And, you know, we're going to

21:02

bring, I should have, you know, I

21:04

buried the lead here. We're going to

21:06

bring back the wheel, the wheels coming

21:08

back. But think about other people that

21:11

you read about or watch, like I

21:13

think about Bill Burr Burr. I think

21:15

about Bill Burr. I love him about

21:17

Bill Burr. I love him about Bill

21:19

Burr. I love him as a comedian.

21:22

I love him as a comedian. I

21:24

love him as a comedian. Just before

21:26

you think, oh, this is just rich

21:28

white guys. You know, mostly rich white

21:31

guys are really good at these hobbies.

21:33

Yes. Yes. There is a rich white

21:35

guyness to it, but there are examples

21:37

that are outside of that. You know

21:40

what we saw? I saw on social

21:42

media. Our boy Roy Choi is like

21:44

a is very into flower arranging, which

21:46

is a cool art form actually. There's

21:48

like different styles of it. I think

21:51

he does like a lot of sort

21:53

of the Asian arrangements, but like that

21:55

it's. If anybody has ever tried to

21:57

arrange flowers on an amateur level, it's

22:00

harder than it looks. You know, samurai

22:02

is used to practice that. Yeah, it's

22:04

a real thing. It's a real thing.

22:06

calligraphy as well. So before you cast

22:09

aside as that's lame, like I did

22:11

25 years ago, and I was told

22:13

you idiot, it's very difficult. I mean,

22:15

Jimmy Butler, who besides not wanting to

22:17

play for the Miami, he's quite knowledge

22:20

about coffee. He's gonna have a lot

22:22

of time to major domo right now.

22:24

The, David Beckham's into food. He raises

22:26

honey, honey, honey. Yeah, totally crazy. Everyone

22:29

is developing these strange. esoteric things or

22:31

not strange esoteric things, but hobbies. Yeah,

22:33

I love to, I really like to

22:35

encounter these people too. You said Rachel

22:38

Kong. Rachel. We are notary public. Rachel

22:40

wanted to be, I don't know, she's

22:42

completed. She was looking to be licensed

22:44

as a notary public. And I was

22:47

like, why? And she was like, I

22:49

don't know, I just, I feel like

22:51

notaries are. Not very fun and I

22:53

can be like a fun notary public.

22:55

I was like that is insane. Like

22:58

she wants to major domo and being

23:00

a notary. We're hashing this out. This

23:02

is a little bit more organized. Not

23:04

a little bit. It's already. We're trying

23:07

to make it seem like it's not

23:09

very organized. Way more organized than anything

23:11

we've ever done before. Promise you that.

23:13

But I think this is going to

23:16

become our principal. outlet and it is

23:18

it's a couple things right it's gonna

23:20

be major domoing in these sorts of

23:22

you know esoteric or niche or like

23:24

just things that are that interest us

23:27

or other people I think we're still

23:29

going to help provide the major domoing

23:31

you need on food and eating and

23:33

dining related topics like we're still gonna

23:36

deep dive into how to become good

23:38

at all of those specific things but

23:40

like days to the beginning like we're

23:42

in a branch outside of that too.

23:45

But like the benefit of this is

23:47

if we keep doing this, this is

23:49

not all we're going to do, but

23:51

this is going to become a regular

23:53

feature on DCS and just in general

23:56

major demo. It's almost like a cultural

23:58

wire cutter to some degree. If

24:01

we do this and do it

24:03

right and we extend our net

24:05

to people that just about everyone

24:07

you know has something that they're

24:10

embarrassed to tell the world that

24:12

they do like they they're beekeepers

24:14

or you know, I know a

24:16

couple of those weirdos. Sorry. I

24:18

mean, they are pretty weird. More

24:21

importantly, I'm like, why can't it

24:23

just be called beekeeping? What do

24:25

you have to use? I honestly

24:27

didn't even realize that's not aviary.

24:30

Right. Or like a stamp collector

24:32

is a philatalyst. That sounds real

24:34

dangerous one too. If I was

24:36

going to say. No, we're going

24:39

to tap into all of you

24:41

weirdos. The goal is to be

24:43

able to have a wealth of

24:45

information, whether it's a website or

24:48

however it might be, where it's

24:50

like, hey, I'm interested. Maybe I

24:52

want to learn how to overland.

24:54

The thing is, that was sort

24:57

of my, one of my resolutions

24:59

this year is like, I want

25:01

to learn how to actually go

25:03

camping and hunt. I was like,

25:05

we'll start with camping. I mean,

25:08

yeah, you can buy a fucking

25:10

tent and shit like that, but

25:12

there's a lot of stuff. I

25:14

don't know. Yeah. Well, that's the

25:17

key. So I need just mental

25:19

or just some, like short roadblocks,

25:21

like, their lanes to say like

25:23

stay here. These are, these are

25:26

valid resources, you know, talk to

25:28

do somebody that does do it.

25:30

You know in this price range

25:32

you should do this as and

25:35

this and then we can talk

25:37

to another person that does camping

25:39

no slash overland overlining is like

25:41

taking your car out and doing

25:44

I don't even know what the

25:46

foot did right that has a

25:48

higher budget and then we get

25:50

some information about how this person

25:53

does it and so on and

25:55

so forth the goal is to

25:57

keep this as a living breathing

25:59

document of things where people can

26:01

like oh yeah this is not

26:04

like the one and only path.

26:06

It is not like your path

26:08

to being a professional camping, hunting,

26:10

overlander. It is just like, it

26:13

is the, like you said, it's

26:15

the path through those initial roadblocks

26:17

that stop all of us from

26:19

doing anything. And you sort of

26:22

just have to, you know, just

26:24

meander and wander. As a side

26:26

note, when I started cooking, I

26:28

knew I couldn't learn about wine,

26:31

I didn't have access to it.

26:33

Yeah. And I wanted to choose

26:35

something that was distinctly mine. One,

26:37

I chose Ramian. People thought, whoa,

26:40

that's fucking weird. I was like,

26:42

yeah, but it's mine. And I

26:44

can say, without trying to sound

26:46

like a complete, utter, full-blown narcissist,

26:48

I think maybe there was another

26:51

person or two other people, but

26:53

in the early odds, there wasn't

26:55

a single person that was an

26:57

American citizen that knew more about

27:00

Ramian than I did, at least

27:02

in Japan. And that was all

27:04

because I was interested and it

27:06

was just domain expert. It doesn't

27:09

mean that I'm still, because I'm

27:11

clearly not. But I began to

27:13

learn things that no one else

27:15

gave a shit about and being

27:18

different. Really set apart my career

27:20

because if I didn't, I would

27:22

have cooked in France and I

27:24

just would have been making facsimiles

27:27

of a lot of different things.

27:29

So case in point, like doing

27:31

different things can have a great

27:33

impact. I'd also add another thing

27:35

just as like a random thing.

27:38

I was thinking about Papi Van

27:40

Winkle and Julian from Papi Van

27:42

Winkle. And I was like, how

27:44

the fuck did I even get

27:47

there? Because at our book party,

27:49

book launch at 88 Chinese, 88

27:51

Broadway, whatever in Chinatown, the random,

27:53

the most random thing of all

27:56

time. Like endless boogie played. and

27:58

Julian Van Winkle is pouring Papi.

28:00

in tiny paper cups. This is

28:02

before the full-blown explosion. But I

28:05

had to remember, like, why the

28:07

fuck is this happening? Because I

28:09

didn't know any beverage people at

28:11

the time. I remember thinking, besides

28:14

Romney, and I want to learn

28:16

about Scotch, because I don't know

28:18

anyone else that's knowledgeable, but then

28:20

I realize, oh, that's really expensive.

28:23

And I don't necessarily like the

28:25

smoky peat flavor. So I'm gonna

28:27

focus on American whiskey. Bourbon. Ron.

28:29

And by just, I don't, I

28:31

don't even read anything, just by

28:34

fucking around, going into stores, talking

28:36

to people. You know, at the

28:38

time, they were like 30, 40

28:40

bucks a bottle. Expensive for me

28:43

at the time, but not like

28:45

$400 or $4,000, which some of

28:47

them are today. I landed on,

28:49

there were no blogs. Okay? There

28:52

was no guides. Through sheer taste,

28:54

I wound up liking Papi Van

28:56

Winkle. And I would drink a

28:58

lot of it. You know? Right.

29:01

And sure enough, like, one of

29:03

the reasons why Julian Papi became

29:05

popular is I told Tony. Mordain.

29:07

Mordain tells people, next thing you

29:10

know, it's a big thing. Yeah.

29:12

These things can happen, and you

29:14

may not even realize it if

29:16

you just do you what interest

29:18

to you Yeah, that's that's the

29:21

that's the key is like you

29:23

you follow your You follow your

29:25

heart in a lot of ways

29:27

and like the other the other

29:30

one of like by no means

29:32

am I'm saying I'm responsible for

29:34

anything I'm just like I feel

29:36

like I feel like there's a

29:39

small part was played in that

29:41

Yeah, well the part I mean

29:43

whether or not I mean putting

29:45

that aside it was interesting to

29:48

you And I mean like you

29:50

followed other things like you can

29:52

follow things that are interesting and

29:54

maybe they'll never belong. Maybe they'll

29:57

just continue to be your weird

29:59

little thing. But fine, like who

30:01

cares? Be weird? Do you do

30:03

your weird shit, man? And like

30:05

you're gonna look at that. You

30:07

wanna encourage people to do weird

30:09

shit? Like, yeah, exactly. So,

30:11

you're the glitch. It was my

30:14

dumb idea to bring the wheel of

30:16

death back. But we're gonna put

30:18

our money to bring the wheel

30:20

of death back. But we're gonna

30:22

put our money, where our mouths

30:24

are basically, what do we want

30:26

to do? We're gonna force ourselves

30:28

to do things. that ultimately will

30:30

pay off in entertainment

30:33

for you, the listener, the watcher,

30:35

the viewer. Right. So the idea behind

30:37

the wheel of death, Dave, Dave said

30:39

the other day was, we are going

30:41

to have a series of, what do

30:43

you want to call these tasks,

30:46

achievements, achievements on there, right?

30:48

In various disciplines. And we're

30:50

going to take a spin.

30:53

And who's playing this? You, just

30:55

you and me? Yeah, I think so.

30:57

We can invite people too. Maybe we'll

30:59

invite some other people out in

31:01

the world to join us, but we're

31:04

gonna take a spin. Whatever it

31:06

lands on, we're gonna have a time

31:08

period to achieve. So as an

31:10

example, I think the first one you

31:13

threw out was perform stand-up coffee.

31:15

Like, not me, Chris. I was

31:17

like, Chris. You know, you have

31:19

to practice stand-up. And it's not

31:21

just do an open mic and

31:24

do stand-up and open mics, which

31:26

are there quite often. some

31:28

of the worst things you'll ever

31:30

watch. You know, just by talking about

31:32

this. We have been working on

31:34

this idea for quite some time.

31:36

There need to be another level

31:38

of just doing it. So what,

31:40

so yeah, so the idea is, somewhere

31:43

somewhere in this sheet, somebody described it

31:45

as like, major doing is like getting

31:47

a brown belt. It is like one

31:49

step beneath like, oh, I'm a pro.

31:51

I've got it. I'm all the way

31:54

to the top. It is, oh damn, like...

31:56

And we can use the audience as

31:58

sort of a barometer of... of what

32:00

the level should be, right? So

32:02

for instance, with stand-up, we

32:04

were saying, it can't just

32:06

be, oh, I fulfilled my task,

32:09

I went to an open mic,

32:11

I embarrassed myself for five minutes,

32:13

I didn't have anything to say,

32:15

I got up there and I did

32:18

it, so check, I'm a major domo

32:20

at stand-up, at least in my

32:22

mind, in stand-up comedy

32:24

would be, I have to perform enough

32:26

times, work on a set, enough.

32:29

That I can perform somewhere

32:31

and be paid for my services

32:33

Like a corporate gig is like

32:35

you know We can't get a

32:38

Z's we can't get any we

32:40

can't get Ali Wong to speak

32:42

at our conference Christian is

32:44

available No, was he third on

32:46

the list? No, no, no, there's

32:48

a lot more we know that

32:51

it's an impossibility, but I think

32:53

that's why we're going to set

32:56

sort of several sort of lower

32:58

threshold benchmarks to sort of continue

33:00

down that path. But you know what that

33:03

makes me think of actually though. We

33:05

could be paid, I bet. Not if for

33:07

Mitzvah or something like that.

33:09

To perform magic. Yes. Well, again,

33:12

there's so many things out there. Yeah.

33:14

Right. That's why I find it

33:16

interesting. Like, I'm going to give you

33:18

an example. I'm really into fly

33:21

fishing. I'm. Quite nervous because I

33:23

got a trip coming up in

33:25

a month and I can't really Cask

33:27

is on my shoulder. So I'm I

33:29

don't know what I'm going to do.

33:32

But I've been doing it now for

33:34

20 plus years. I particularly

33:36

enjoy saltwater fly fishing.

33:39

Am I amazing at it? No. Am

33:41

I proficient at it? Yes.

33:43

Am I better than a lot of the

33:45

people that I know that I go

33:47

fishing with? I think I've made myself

33:49

a lot better. Yeah. You certainly talk

33:52

about it less than people who are

33:54

worse than you at it. Oh for

33:56

sure. And here's the thing. One of

33:58

the benchmarks. could have been

34:00

if we started this say 20 years

34:03

ago because this is the reality we

34:05

hope to continue this in perpetuity.

34:07

If like 20 years ago someone said

34:09

hey Dave you're gonna be in fly

34:11

fishing you're getting in the fly fishing

34:14

great and there's some things I won't

34:16

do I don't have the dexterity to

34:18

fly ties you know I'm never gonna

34:20

guide you I'm never gonna do certain things

34:22

that most people would think you would need

34:24

to be to be an expert level

34:27

I'm never I'm friends with the experts

34:29

Fucking gods. I don't even want,

34:31

I just want to be like. But

34:33

you want, so when you go on a

34:35

trip, you want the guide to say what

34:38

when he sees you. I want to fish

34:40

with you because you're good. Yeah. I

34:42

don't know. They hate fishing with

34:44

people that suck because they're like,

34:46

fuck, this sucks. Right. You know. And

34:49

the second day of fishing. That's usually

34:51

the like, I want to fish with

34:53

you. But here's what would be a crazy

34:56

guy. Catch this, you gotta get an

34:58

assault, you gotta learn a double haul,

35:00

you gotta learn how to side cast,

35:02

you gotta all these things, you gotta

35:04

learn how to do a spay cast,

35:06

gotta catch a steelhead trout.

35:08

The last one in Major

35:11

Dominging would be as like a

35:13

crazy threshold. Would be too. On the fly

35:15

fishing videos that are usually

35:17

on a fly fishing door, you

35:19

have to be in one of those videos.

35:22

Okay, yeah, this is like the

35:24

equivalent of if if 30 years

35:26

ago instead like we're gonna

35:28

get a skating skateboarding It

35:30

would be like your picture has to

35:32

be in like Thrasher just as like

35:34

you got to get a picture in

35:37

Thrasher which is like an amateur skater.

35:39

But again, I'm not going as

35:41

a professional But I've been

35:43

asked to participate in a

35:46

professional fly fishing video Right

35:48

because of my my My relationship with

35:50

one of the top guides down

35:53

in Mexico. So first of all,

35:55

this is real. This is real. Right?

35:57

Like, it's not because I'm the

35:59

best. There's a story there that

36:01

is interesting for people, but also

36:03

like, I'm not a dumbass and I can

36:06

actually catch a permit if the conditions

36:08

aren't shit. That's a hot, that's,

36:10

that is, that would definitely be

36:12

major domoing in fly fishing. I have

36:14

to understand this a little better

36:16

though. So I made the comparison to

36:18

like escape magazine or like surf videos.

36:20

Like back in like the 90s you

36:22

would just have. surf videos, skate videos, and this is

36:25

where you would find all of the guys you'd see in

36:27

jackass and stuff, like they'd be on these videos, Big Brother,

36:29

all these things. You'd go to the skate shop, you'd go

36:31

to the surf shop, you'd buy a surf video, and you

36:33

just like, you'd play like, oh, these rolled people, like the

36:35

locals. What is the audience for this fly fishing video you're

36:37

talking about? I don't give a shit. No, like, like,

36:40

like, do people, do people, is just like, is

36:42

just like, is just watch, like, like, like, like,

36:44

like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

36:46

like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

36:48

like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

36:50

like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

36:52

like, like, like, like, like, like, like and different

36:54

types of fish. But they're for like entertainment like

36:56

yeah like like anglers. They're like Warren Miller skiing

36:58

videos. Oh yeah so like anglers are like

37:00

I'm watching this video like yeah oh

37:02

man they went to the Amazon to catch

37:05

Golden Dorado you know and I've

37:07

seen like 17 different videos of this

37:09

journey before but not like this you

37:11

know that's that's sort of like I love

37:13

that shit and I'm gonna be in you

37:15

know, weather permitting one of those videos.

37:17

Yeah, pretty cool. And the thing is like,

37:20

if we were talking about this, I would

37:22

never let anyone know, I would never

37:24

tell anybody. Because it was just like

37:26

so fucking random. I was like, you're

37:28

asking me? And I don't have to

37:30

cook. You actually just want me for

37:32

my relationship with this guy? Like, what

37:35

the fuck? Yeah, just for the fishing.

37:37

The actual fishing. Which is like, that

37:39

is, I mean, in a lot of ways, the

37:41

bar for somebody like you can be

37:43

a little trickier, right. There's

37:45

that like 30 Rock episode where where John

37:47

Hamm lives in the bubble and everyone tells

37:49

him he's good because he's so handsome There's

37:51

a world in which like oh, yeah Dave we

37:54

need you in the video we need you in

37:56

the video also we need you to cook dinner.

37:58

Well, you know, I think personally for me major

38:00

demoing. You know, my,

38:02

we're gonna give you this,

38:04

this, this, this cheat sheet

38:07

of the rules, right? I

38:09

feel that major demoing

38:11

is you become, not

38:13

just knowledgeable, but

38:16

when other people see you

38:18

do something, other people

38:20

being sort of people

38:23

that are good at it

38:25

or experts in that field.

38:27

They think to themselves because

38:30

they're judging you you're not

38:32

opposed. Yeah, I feel that's my

38:35

level I think that I can go

38:37

out there on a on a driftboat

38:39

or you know go in the flats and

38:41

be like He's not a poser.

38:43

Yeah, that's that's the level that's

38:46

level like you're proficient enough.

38:48

We're like you don't suck. Yeah And

38:50

that is an ideal level, because that's

38:52

also the level, if that's how you

38:54

view it, you're also not just trying

38:57

to talk about it yourself, like you

38:59

are a fucking professional or expert. No,

39:01

I will never. That's the thing you

39:03

can't. All right, so what else, like, we're gonna

39:05

spitball this for a minute, this wheel, then

39:07

we're gonna take some audience input on

39:09

it, and then I think we're gonna spin it,

39:11

and we're gonna do it, so some of these

39:14

are gonna clearly be. Unuptainable. So like,

39:16

well, give some more examples of like

39:18

the type of thing that might go

39:20

on this wheel. This fucking guy, Ying,

39:22

put on a goal, DJing a show.

39:24

Yes. Yeah. Because Dave thought it would

39:26

be funny to see me to stand

39:28

up. And I was like, okay. Dave,

39:30

you have to become a DJ and

39:32

perform a set at a club in

39:34

Vegas. Like that's that's that's the bar

39:36

for Mater. So in a weird way.

39:39

If you guys, if you're being like,

39:41

I don't understand what these

39:43

guys are talking about. Well let

39:45

me get more convoluted.

39:47

You're basically

39:49

creating a fantasy

39:51

culture team amongst

39:54

your friends. Okay?

39:56

Like instead of

39:58

fantasizing about, you know... Jaden

40:01

Daniels scoring 45 points and

40:03

we can which is an

40:06

amazing. I love fantasy football

40:08

and being able to talk

40:10

shit with your friends Imagine

40:13

if you got 12 of

40:15

your friends and everybody chooses

40:18

or is chosen to do

40:20

something right and the competition

40:23

is who is the most proficient

40:25

at the thing that they

40:27

were given I? I'm, you're, especially for

40:29

people, uh, of all ages, honestly. But

40:31

especially for like people our age were like,

40:33

people in our age group, our friend groups

40:35

are kind of like settled into their routines.

40:38

We're just, I know who you are, I know

40:40

who you are, I know what you're into, I

40:42

know what you're into, I know what you're into,

40:44

we have the same relative conversations, do the same

40:46

things. How much cooler would your fucking friend group

40:48

be if you were like in friend group be

40:51

if you were like in one year? We are

40:53

all gonna be fucking experts level,

40:55

not experts, excuse me. We're all

40:57

gonna be major domos in these

40:59

12 activities and we're gonna have

41:01

a fucking showcase. Like it's gonna be

41:03

incredible. Yeah, like that's awesome. I know.

41:06

It's, you know, it is like fantasy

41:08

because it's like, it's reversing fantasy. It's

41:10

like, stop spending all your time pretending

41:13

to be a football analyst

41:15

for nine months. And you know

41:17

that like penalty deal that fantasy

41:19

leagues have? just make that the

41:21

fucking fantasy game make it useful

41:23

and more importantly like

41:26

this is something that literally

41:28

everyone can do and it

41:30

already happens you see these

41:32

weight loss challenges whoever can run

41:35

the most like Richard Sherman right

41:37

now is in this thing with

41:39

this former teammates about who

41:41

can run the most it's it's there

41:43

it's an amazing way of being

41:46

able to to have fun gamify your

41:48

small community of friends. Yeah.

41:50

And more importantly, if you don't

41:52

have a lot of friends, this is

41:54

a wonderful way of meeting new fucking

41:56

people. Yeah, or if you don't want

41:58

to meet new people. you can still do

42:01

it like this but no i i love

42:03

i love i'm just letting you guys know

42:05

i'm officially retiring that's going outside

42:07

he's getting out there i mean like

42:10

i love the idea of like although

42:12

you should never go to a decathlon

42:14

or weightlifting thing did you read about

42:16

the shop put person that a hammer

42:18

yes oh my god that's so

42:21

dark uh DJing i love that i

42:23

mean The ultimate goal is Dave Chang

42:25

residency in Vegas. Fuck yourself. Come on,

42:27

that's so true. And I'm gonna tell

42:29

you, Christine, you have to have a

42:32

Netflix special. Do they do three-minute Netflix

42:34

specials? I think I can write one

42:36

joke. But here's the thing, is

42:38

that out of the realm of

42:40

possibility? Because I'll tell you what,

42:42

I went to Shabaster Manicao, Scalco's

42:44

concert here in his first concert

42:47

date on his comedy show, most

42:49

recent comedy show, and the most recent

42:51

comedy show. And the Seven years

42:53

ago, and he's our age from

42:56

Chicago. It's fucking

42:58

outstanding. Yeah, so the

43:00

reality is it's not that

43:02

insane if you committed

43:04

a lot of your time over

43:07

the next 10 to 15 years

43:09

The being stand-up here

43:11

currently it's 99.9%

43:13

impossible. Yeah, but if you

43:16

committed time, I think it

43:18

goes to like two three

43:20

percent You have a

43:22

higher probability of getting a

43:24

Netflix special than me being

43:26

a DJ at the residency

43:29

unless it's no you maybe

43:31

not a residency maybe it's

43:33

not maybe you're not like

43:35

the residency at Tao but

43:37

like Omnia Maybe yes those

43:39

headline opening up for me

43:41

maybe like the 7 p.m.m.

43:44

slot at hockesaw or something

43:46

while they carve your duck who

43:48

is playing this It sounds

43:50

like Redskins play highlights.

43:53

Why is it shoegazing

43:56

music? It's so sad.

43:58

Is this Morrissey? This

44:01

is the kind of, I mean, like,

44:03

it's a joke, but like, I don't

44:05

know, like you have to be a

44:08

certain level proficiency at DJing to do

44:10

it. No, listen, ultimately,

44:12

I feel very strongly about

44:14

this because even if it

44:16

works halfway as well as we want,

44:18

everybody wins. You don't lose

44:21

doing this. For sure. You know,

44:23

ultimately, again, this is about

44:25

engaging with people doing you,

44:28

you know, you know, and having fun. Yeah,

44:30

no, I mean, it's like, it's,

44:32

it's what you said is, just

44:34

getting out there, man, just

44:36

get off your fucking phone, go

44:38

outside and do something. Okay,

44:40

so we're gonna, let me give

44:42

us your suggestions, get

44:45

on the discord, I know that

44:47

you guys are good at this

44:49

part, like we're all sorts of different

44:51

sort of categories

44:54

of arts and crafts, getting

44:56

art piece into a show,

44:58

drawing caricatures, Dancing

45:00

literally terrifies the

45:02

shoot at him. Yeah. I can't. I'm

45:04

notorious amongst my group

45:07

of friends to not touch

45:09

the dance floor. And even if

45:11

I'm on drugs that make you

45:13

want to dance, no. It is true.

45:16

I have seen you do lots,

45:18

I've seen you do many many

45:20

many many things in life.

45:22

I've never seen you dance. Won't

45:24

do it. Well, unless you hit

45:27

that wheel. Or. Yeah, you know, here's

45:29

a deal. It happens once I go to

45:31

a state of unconsciousness. It

45:33

has happened. I just don't remember.

45:35

So get on the discord, send

45:37

us suggestions. We will build the

45:39

wheel. It will have specific... Don't

45:41

just send us your ideas. I

45:43

mean, you can have just like

45:45

different things we could try to

45:47

get good at, but also... What is

45:49

a reasonable level to declare I am a major dumb

45:51

with this thing? Or not to declare it, because you

45:53

don't declare it, but like, what qualifies you as a

45:55

major dumb on this thing? And one thing too is

45:58

like, I wanna make one caveat if you're doing. the

46:00

martial arts like I

46:02

resent all of this

46:04

hatred towards the super

46:06

broliness of Brazilian

46:08

jitsu now I hate it because

46:11

it's bullshit yeah it's yes

46:13

I just can't yeah have people

46:15

who go you just like no

46:18

because it's yeah I've heard

46:20

you've been dusting it off

46:22

I went to a I went to a

46:25

introductory BJJJ course I've

46:27

studied I've studied Taekwondo are

46:29

what we all know to

46:31

be the most useless at

46:34

the martial arts, but I

46:36

went to a Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu

46:38

class. Taekwondo, the art of

46:40

blocking. It's the art of,

46:42

it's really, it's the art

46:44

of like dancing. It's more

46:46

of a dance than a

46:48

martial art. I guess I'm

46:50

working on my stand-up material

46:52

right now. Taekwondo is more

46:55

of a liberal art than a

46:57

martial art. No, I mean, and this

46:59

is like the topic of our last

47:01

segment, but we've been we've been talking

47:03

about this for what a couple weeks now,

47:05

or maybe a few months. I mean, we talk

47:08

about in the broad strokes forever,

47:10

but you and I both came back before

47:12

we had to leave because of the fires

47:14

and we're like, you know, fucking do something

47:16

about just like life and like get out

47:18

there and do shit. So I did, I went

47:20

to a BJJ class, and then the next

47:22

day I woke up and I woke up and I woke

47:24

up and I was like. I

47:27

think I'm getting sick. I think I

47:29

have COVID. I think my throat is

47:31

closing up. I realized that I had

47:33

just been like rear naked choked like

47:36

three times and my neck was just

47:38

in like extreme pain. Man, I

47:40

felt great going. I felt great

47:42

like just fucking doing something. It's

47:45

been so long since I had to

47:47

do something where I was like nervous

47:49

about it and going and I came

47:52

back and I had like I had a

47:54

great time. Game back and Jamie

47:56

was like, so where were you in

47:58

like the sort of age room? moment

48:00

where I was like, I think I was the

48:02

oldest person there. Right? Good for you.

48:05

You have to. Good for you. Yeah.

48:07

I've been actually learning, I wanted

48:09

to learn how to blacksmith. No, you

48:11

should. But the school closed down.

48:13

There was one. Oh, no. But

48:15

you were like looking into actually

48:18

blacksmithing, dude. Because I was like,

48:20

maybe this is for me. That'd

48:22

be awesome. Just like hammering. Oh my

48:24

God. Yes. Think of a more Dave

48:26

Chang fucking thing to do. No, like

48:28

blacksmithing is like is right in your

48:31

way. Like being next to hotness even

48:33

though I don't want to be hot

48:35

like I don't like nothing. I mean

48:37

between I mean not not so much anymore

48:40

but like with fly fishing one of

48:42

the sort of telltale signs of a

48:44

Dave Chang major demo pursuit is have

48:46

you ever seen an Asian guy do

48:48

it before? If not Dave wants to

48:50

get good at it. Although I was

48:53

thinking about your golfing yesterday because I

48:55

was watching a, I was watching some

48:57

TGL and I was like, let me ask

48:59

you this, when I watched Tom Kim golf,

49:01

am I seeing like a weird alternate universe

49:03

of what young Dave Chang was like when

49:05

he was golfing? No, I don't know who

49:08

Tom Kim is. Oh, he's just like

49:10

a very like... Talk about generic. He's like,

49:12

you should see him. He's got some Dave

49:14

Chang energy to him. I feel

49:17

sorry for the world. Anyway, we're

49:19

more major demoed out reaching

49:21

enlightenment on this activity, these

49:23

activities. Probably not alignment, but it

49:25

just dawn on me before we

49:28

get out of here. We should try

49:30

to recruit some more people on this.

49:32

Yeah, I think so too. I think we need,

49:34

if anybody from the ringerverse,

49:36

we could get. For sure,

49:38

Van Laythin. We can try to

49:41

get Vanda to major demo stuff.

49:43

I don't know if Podfather will do

49:45

it. Yeah. But we can get Van. He

49:47

doesn't even know but I would love to

49:49

make Van major demo at something rasling Van

49:51

into something I bet you get Chris Ryan

49:53

I think we get a few other people

49:56

are they mean like we can get we

49:58

can get people I mean it Andy Greenwell

50:00

to do something. For sure. All

50:02

right. Let's put the call out.

50:05

Anybody from our major donor universe

50:07

too. I think it's fun if

50:09

it's you and me, but I

50:12

think if we have like four

50:14

or five people doing this. Fantasy.

50:16

Fantasy. Hey, hey. End of the

50:19

year talent show? Maybe. But now

50:21

it's a competition. Like I have

50:23

to become up. If you were

50:26

like give me something random. Yo-yoing.

50:30

I don't give a fuck about

50:32

yo-yoing. I don't fucking give a

50:34

shit. You could not get me

50:36

to give a shit about yo-yoing.

50:38

But if there... If four of

50:40

your friends are also trying to

50:42

get good at something. Like I'm

50:44

gonna go to like every yo-yo

50:46

convention on, you know, west of

50:48

the Mississippi. I'm gonna practice like

50:50

a motherfuck. I'm gonna become so

50:52

good. It's like those people that

50:54

started to jump rope during the

50:56

pandemic. And now are like... quit

50:58

their jobs and they just jump

51:00

rope doing crazy ass jump rope

51:02

shit like I'm gonna become like

51:04

the sickest yo-yo mother. You're gonna

51:06

be the yo-yo mob yo-yo. And

51:08

for that we need a stop.

51:11

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51:13

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51:15

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