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looks like it's live on YouTube.

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We're here, y'all. Hope you guys

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can chat. Hope it's working for

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you all. As you see, we're live

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streaming a person. Only known

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this a couple times. We're still

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getting used to it, you know,

1:29

figuring out, you know, figuring out,

1:31

you know, figuring out an all-time

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high. It's finally. non-stop vitriol from both

1:36

sides of what's become a two-horse race between Shea, Nicole Yolkich. It's

1:38

crazy, it's crazy. It's not quite as crazy as when it was

1:40

Joel and beat on the other side, but it's close. Because it went to

1:42

proportions that, you know, don't have to do with basketball. Oh, don't get

1:44

to mess up. The race relation is still part

1:46

of it right now. Really, I was still

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making a race. That's crazy, because I feel

1:51

like I'm very, I'm very, very, very, very,

1:53

very, very, very, very, very tapped, very tapped,

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very tapped, very tapped, very tapped in on

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that tapped in on that, very tapped in

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on that, very tapped, very tapped, very, very

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tapped, very tapped, very tapped, very tapped, very

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tapped, very tapped, very tapped, very tapped, I've

2:11

not seen a lot of that. Yeah, yeah,

2:14

yeah, well, you know, that's typed in this

2:16

guy. Yeah, clear as day. Yeah, we're gonna

2:18

talk about that today. Wait, wait, what kinds

2:20

of tweets are you seeing? This year, it's

2:23

more, because what is the algorithm showing you

2:25

based on what you've liked? So right now

2:27

is the other way, right now, so the

2:30

year you were talking about, it was the

2:32

Kendrick Perkins stuff, where we know where that

2:34

was, where that was, where it was, where

2:36

it was, And beat is not getting it

2:39

because he's black. Oh, okay. For lack of

2:41

better words. Interesting. Yeah. And right now, Shea

2:43

fans are like, nobody cares when Yoakush is

2:46

a bad game. He has a white privilege.

2:48

That's where the racial relations are going right

2:50

now. But lots of talk about there. We're

2:52

going to talk about a few key injuries,

2:55

a couple big reports, some miscellaneous stories. Lots

2:57

and lots to get into. I think today,

2:59

let's start with some Sacramento King's talk, which

3:02

is something I never, cut them out of

3:04

the episode a couple weeks ago. It was

3:06

actually the most recent episode. I had a

3:08

couple weeks ago. This week. But there's some

3:11

interesting stuff to talk about that's barely even

3:13

about them. Actually, I guess technically we're having

3:15

some spurs talk to start the episode. NBA

3:18

drama. The Aaron Fox, there's recently been some

3:20

discourse around his trade request or lack thereof

3:22

of how he went out from the team.

3:24

Essentially, King's fans fucking hate him now. Because

3:27

they say that he put them in a

3:29

terrible position. by narrowing his market to one

3:31

team, right? He said, on that topic, there

3:34

was no fucking list. I wanted to go

3:36

to San Antonio. A lot of people are

3:38

mad, saying a handcuff the team. Well, this

3:40

is my career. It's not my job to

3:43

help build your team. I'm not about to

3:45

just go where they want me to go.

3:47

How did you feel about this? How did

3:50

you feel about this? Because they're like, you're

3:52

in the car track, do your job. And

3:54

then other people were like, hey, hey, completely

3:56

fed up with the situation that he's been

3:59

given, seeing all the wrong moves happen

4:01

even when there's right moves happening,

4:03

seeing them take steps a couple

4:05

years ago when it's the one

4:07

that liked the beam stuff happened and

4:10

all that. Like, I don't blame him

4:12

firing the head coach abruptly like that

4:14

as a star player given no type

4:16

of like green light or none like

4:19

that too. I understand it. Yeah, it

4:21

makes sense. The Kings drafted Darren

4:23

Fox in 2017. They did not make

4:25

the playoffs until like two years ago.

4:27

Damn, right? So you have one playoff

4:29

appearance in his seven or eight year

4:31

tenure if if Darren would have played

4:33

his entire Koreans in Sacramento and they

4:36

would have been on this pace That

4:38

they are that they're on right now.

4:40

He's one of the greatest losers of

4:42

all time Exactly, like what do they

4:44

get? Like do they probably get two

4:46

playoff appearances, three playing appearances, and then

4:49

all of a sudden, like, they're supposed

4:51

to be some valor in that. If

4:53

the Air Fox wants to, if he

4:55

wants to go play with somebody else,

4:57

he 100% can do that, and I'm,

5:00

and I'm glad that he said, there

5:02

was no list. I wanted to go

5:04

play with this guy, and they made it

5:06

happen, because fans don't even have

5:08

to be mad with the Air Fox. You

5:10

can be mad at ownership. They're the

5:13

ones who make the trade. They could have

5:15

said, no, Deere, we're not going to

5:17

trade you. They could have said, you

5:19

know what? I know you want to

5:21

go to San Antonio. We're going to

5:23

send you to Portland. Like, you know,

5:25

like, they can do all this other

5:27

stuff. Portland, buddy. Like, it doesn't matter.

5:29

Like, shout out to Deere and Fox

5:31

for requesting the trade. Ultimately,

5:34

the burden falls on the front office

5:36

to do all this stuff, so you

5:38

can't be mad at him. Shout out

5:40

to K.J. Blazon for tipping $3. Appreciate

5:42

your man. He said, best part of the

5:44

day, shout out. Interesting part of

5:46

this is, this was surprising to

5:48

me, this comment, because this was

5:50

surprising to me, this comment, because

5:53

this all comes from the same new story

5:55

by Mike Wright, where he, I think

5:57

he sat down to the mic brownfiring.

5:59

He said. I was like, yo, I've

6:01

been here for my eighth, going

6:03

on my eighth year, if Mike

6:05

gets fired, I'll be on my

6:07

fifth coach. And I told him,

6:09

I'm not going to play for

6:11

another coach, I'm going to play

6:13

for another team. That's hilarious. He's

6:15

like, if you fire them, I want

6:17

to leave, because I'm sick of new

6:19

faces in here, I like, I'm sick

6:21

of new faces in here. I like

6:23

Mike Mike Brown. It became a locker

6:26

room issue. King's fans theorizing that Demontus

6:28

Abonis is the one who had a

6:30

falling out as the other most influential

6:32

player on the team. So interesting that

6:34

it seems like we can trace us

6:36

back to when the Darren Fox trade

6:38

first happened he had followed Demontus Abonis

6:40

the next day and King's fans are

6:42

like why did you do that? What

6:44

did he do? And he was like

6:46

I don't want to see it. So apparently

6:48

they're out close and we can now link

6:50

that to they have differing of opinions

6:52

on the Mike Brown situation. It's all

6:55

making sense. You are a Kings fan,

6:57

right? Or you're, whichever side you're

6:59

on, just look at the other side

7:01

and say, stay over there. If

7:03

you are rocking with the, with

7:05

the organization, with the modest bonus,

7:08

stay over there. If you were a

7:10

fan of Darren Fox and you're like,

7:12

we did wrong by him. All right,

7:14

you are rocking with him and

7:16

in San Antonio because Darren Fox

7:18

was the one and this is just.

7:20

This is how the kings operate. And

7:22

so you see them kind of switch

7:25

up their plan every two to three

7:27

years. And because of that, now you're

7:29

in the situation where you've traded

7:31

away, one, Tyre's Halliburton, to

7:33

go get to bonus and start this

7:36

whole core. You bring him Mike Brown,

7:38

give him an extension this off season,

7:40

only to fire him midway through the

7:42

year. right knowing that there was probably

7:44

a little bit of beef between the

7:46

air and and the monies about what

7:48

the what the coaching situation was like

7:50

so you keep putting yourself in these

7:52

positions i'm gonna need you to sit

7:55

still i'm gonna need you to i'm gonna

7:57

need you to think about some things before

7:59

you start making moves. You know, their

8:01

future is so interesting because no

8:03

deer in Fox, obviously, you have

8:05

Zach Levine, who is very good.

8:07

The, I don't want to see

8:09

Zach Levine and Demarto Rosen play

8:11

together long term. Why? You've seen

8:13

it already. What's the problem? Exactly.

8:16

That's the point. You've seen it.

8:18

It's gone great every time. Famously.

8:20

Famously an effective duo to say

8:22

linchpin of NBA history. A duo

8:24

you want to see together every

8:26

year. I'm sure you want to

8:28

see together every year. I'm sure.

8:30

Adding in Zachavine makes me want

8:32

to have tomorrow around a little

8:34

bit less than I did before.

8:37

Yeah. And I don't know, like

8:39

what's the what's to be gained

8:41

by building around Demonta Subonus is

8:43

exactly a being long term. That's

8:45

like, it's a worse version of

8:47

what you have with Fox in

8:49

Subonus, but just just marginally. It's

8:51

close to same level, but it's

8:53

slightly worse. You know what it

8:55

is. I wish I can see

8:57

a little bit of that. of

9:00

that mindset where you've been bad

9:02

for like 20 years and you

9:04

want to create some kind of

9:06

culture some kind of stability of

9:08

like I know we're not championship

9:10

contenders but we are are at

9:12

least a respectable team where at

9:14

least a respectable organization and so

9:16

making you know the playing or

9:18

making the top six all that.

9:21

That does have some kind of

9:23

value, especially if you don't want

9:25

to tell your fans, hey, we're

9:27

going to bottom out for the

9:29

fifth time in three years, you

9:31

know, like some other teams do

9:33

pretty consistently. Yeah, yeah, there's definitely

9:35

a fine line there when you're

9:37

a small market team. The other

9:39

interesting part is, I guess we

9:41

all assumed that Demonta's a bonus

9:44

is expected. to seek clarity on

9:46

the king's direction this summer don't

9:48

know exactly what that means or

9:50

let me not say that that

9:52

verbiage makes you think I don't

9:54

know exactly what that means we

9:56

all know what that means he's

9:58

in to be like, are we

10:00

trying to compete or not? Is

10:02

this going to be rebuilt or

10:05

not? What's up? If not, I

10:07

want to be out of here.

10:09

The second one who keeps are

10:11

hilarious, because it's like, bro, that's

10:13

what I've been doing the entire

10:15

time. What do you mean? The

10:17

quote says, League sources said,

10:19

Sabonis, who has three more

10:21

seasons and a combined $143

10:23

million, left on his current

10:26

deal, Sabonis is known to

10:28

have similar questions. I think I

10:30

read a report that in this, it seems

10:32

like the owner's daughter has a big

10:34

say now in the team's direction that

10:36

she's kind of taken over a lot

10:39

of decision-making in lieu of the owner himself.

10:41

Like he's kind of handed the keys

10:43

over her a little bit as like a

10:45

little shadow owner. So I think King's

10:47

fans are assuming that's what he's talking

10:49

about is like, yo, is she in

10:51

charge? Are you in charge? Just Monti

10:53

McNair in charge? What's going on? What's

10:56

going on? under one cohesive vision, you

10:58

know, to bring in DeMarti Rosen, we

11:00

understood the talent play that, you know, he's

11:03

better than Harrison Barnes, I guess you're

11:05

a better team now, right? But all of us

11:07

scratched our fucking heads and said, that's the fit,

11:09

that's the all in peace you want to go

11:11

for. Yeah. And then to get Zach Levine after

11:13

you know how he fit with DeMarti Rosen, like,

11:16

a lot of in cohesive, in cohesive moves

11:18

went on here. That makes sense that there's

11:20

like a muddy of who's like a muddy

11:22

of who's in charge of who's in charge.

11:24

Lanza Ball and Alice Caruso are

11:26

not walking through those doors. Correct.

11:28

Or 20, 29, it was 2021. Wow. Yeah,

11:31

it was actually way, way sooner than

11:33

that. But yeah, so they're not, they're

11:35

not walking through those doors. And

11:37

so again, you don't really know what's

11:39

happening with, with the kings. And for

11:42

some bonus, I'm gonna warn you.

11:44

I'm gonna warn you, right? You guys remember

11:46

that that thread on Twitter like a couple

11:48

years ago with the guys like you need

11:50

to love the wife of your youth or

11:52

something where it's like it's not like the

11:55

grass isn't always green. Yeah. For some bonus,

11:57

I feel like he kind of fits into

11:59

that because I. don't know what teams are

12:01

shelling out their assets to bring into bonus.

12:03

It's very hard for me to see. What

12:05

assets would you be able to get for

12:08

sub bonus? Yeah, I don't know what the

12:10

hall would be like and I don't know

12:12

what situation he would go into that would

12:14

be ready made for him to slide in

12:16

because anywhere that you put sub bonus at

12:19

least offensively to maximize him, he has to

12:21

have the ball in his hands a lot.

12:23

It's very weird for me to think about

12:25

sub bonus being like the third option

12:27

in some like big three type of thing. So

12:29

you might go and request a trade

12:31

and the league might have an answer

12:34

for you very quickly about like your

12:36

your value or where you want to

12:38

go and you you can have a

12:40

list. I don't know if everyone's going

12:42

to respect that. I think when it

12:44

comes to the bonus, something that he

12:46

does bring and give teams is like

12:48

adult of life. and identity is he can't

12:50

go to a team that has like serious

12:52

aspirations to win a championship or a team

12:55

that you know like. What did indictment? What

12:57

did indictment on somebody as a player? Everybody

12:59

has a role and what they are how

13:01

they are valued in the NBA and that's

13:03

just what it is and he so happens

13:06

to be like the face of that. He

13:08

went to he got traded to Indiana.

13:10

from OKC helped bring a jolt of

13:12

life was the best player or one

13:14

of the best one of the two

13:16

best players on that team alongside Miles

13:18

Turner got traded to Sacramento and he

13:20

brought a jolt of life and they

13:22

created a whole new play style catered

13:24

around him. And teams that I can

13:26

think of right off the top of

13:28

the head that need a jolt of

13:31

life because similar to the Sacramento Kings

13:33

back in those days or the Indiana

13:35

Pacers back when they had the Victor

13:37

Lydipo era like set up a guard

13:39

to who just needs. more stability and

13:41

immediately I think of Illinois Hawks. I

13:43

don't want to say the same thing.

13:46

Or fucking the Charlotte Hornets in some

13:48

case. I think those two teams match

13:50

up perfectly offensive with what he is

13:52

able to provide. I could see I

13:55

could see the Hornets if they are

13:57

if the Hornets only because if the

13:59

horn for like we have to be

14:01

relevant we have to be good yeah

14:04

and they also seem to be in

14:06

a position of transition and

14:08

like you don't know what what's

14:10

about to happen so maybe Charlotte

14:13

I don't like I don't like the

14:15

fit in Charlotte also the

14:17

Atlanta pig is like all right that's

14:19

super weird to have tray and

14:22

subonis That's that's one where... That's so mid, that's so fucking

14:24

mid as your two building blocks. And that's... Trey, Jaylyn Johnson,

14:26

Subonus. Jack, where do you guys want to see Demonta Subonus

14:28

traded if it comes to that? What would be a good

14:30

fit for Subonus in your guys' eyes, Chad, if it comes

14:33

to that? What would be a good fit for Subonus in

14:35

your guys' eyes, Chad? Yours, what would be a good fit for

14:37

Subonus? What would be. What would be. What would

14:39

be. What would be a good fit for. What

14:41

would be a good fit for. What would be.

14:43

What would be. What would be. What would be.

14:45

What would be. What would be. What would be.

14:47

What would be. What would be. What would be.

14:49

What would be. What would be. What would be.

14:51

What would be. What would be. What would be.

14:53

What would be. What would be. What would be.

14:55

What would be. What with a slashing guard, they

14:57

have a Fox, because he's really good at rent

14:59

D.O.s, and he can set guys up on driving

15:01

angles. So who's a team that has a slashing

15:03

guard that needs a big to be a playmaking

15:05

hub to set him up a little bit better,

15:07

but also has good defenders that can kind of

15:09

hide its bonuses, weaknesses, and rent protectors. I would

15:11

say like, oh, would say, like, oh, shit, maybe

15:13

the Portland Trailers could use the services, but that

15:15

doesn't make any sense because they

15:17

have, because they have, so it, The fucking

15:20

magic? Ew, bro, you want to

15:22

add another twin? Like that's the

15:24

worst place. I don't know. The

15:26

Grizzlies? I don't know. Jerry Jackson's

15:29

got a good fit to hide

15:31

his weaknesses. They need a big.

15:33

The Grizzlies would be good, but

15:35

I think you risk too much.

15:38

You might risk too much on

15:40

offense. You might risk too much.

15:42

It depends on what they

15:44

want back. But it's fine and

15:46

develop guys so well. That if

15:49

you make some type of like consolidation

15:51

trade to go and get subonus and

15:53

bring them in that It's okay. You know

15:55

that you're going to go find two rotation

15:57

players. What are the goals say worries? Stop

15:59

that What would be the worst fit in the

16:01

world? I mean, if you would have been there

16:04

to like help covers the bonus's

16:06

deficiencies defensively, the guy's right?

16:08

Oh, but you can't, you think the bonus

16:10

will want to go there after Dream on

16:12

stopped on his test? I mean, I don't

16:15

think he'd be excited to play with

16:17

the guy, but I think he'd probably,

16:19

he'd probably deal with it. Well, they

16:21

even work money wise to be able

16:23

to have Steph and Jimmy, and Jimmy,

16:25

Jimmy, and trade him. Yeah, so the

16:27

Kings really have to believe in someone

16:30

like a big guy. They could work. I

16:32

don't know if it would be the

16:34

best because he's another one. That would

16:36

be awful. So in the chat, DQ

16:38

Sempa, I said, I like Sabonis on

16:40

the Trailblazers. You like Sabonis on

16:42

the Trailblazers because you've

16:44

seen a Sabonis on the

16:46

Trailblazers because you've seen a Subonis

16:49

on the Trailblazers because you've seen

16:51

a Subonis on the Trailblazers because

16:54

you've seen a... Re-building what you

16:56

have with the Kings just having

16:58

him be a just 41-winning commander

17:01

Yeah, and I want better for

17:03

the trailblazers Welcome to Minnesota thing

17:05

when it comes to that's what

17:07

comes with the People are span

17:09

Minnesota right now really that's absolutely

17:11

I mean I can understand it

17:13

because entity Edwards Obviously when it

17:15

comes to all the aspects of

17:17

this game playmaking is not

17:19

the strongest suit of his yeah, but

17:21

I don't know It makes sense. Someone's like

17:24

the Raptors are a good fit.

17:26

I guess him and Scott, you aren't the

17:28

worst fit in the world. You need

17:30

to have, yeah, you need, I don't

17:32

think their, their offenses as high

17:34

octane. Someone like Anthony Edwards

17:37

is like in the same vein as

17:39

a score of someone. He's hard to

17:41

fit around, Jesus. Yeah, he is. Try

17:43

to tell you. It's, like, you can,

17:45

you can ask for the trade, but

17:47

ultimately. Like, he can't move the way

17:50

the deer fox was moving, where he's like,

17:52

I have one team and you wanna, and

17:54

I wanna go there. It's like, all

17:56

right, congratulations buddy. Like, it's not

17:58

gonna work everywhere. This is about

18:00

16 minutes of King's Talk. That's about

18:02

16 minutes of King's Talk. You guys, that's

18:05

the makeup for last episode. That's all you

18:07

got in you. Today, we had to talk

18:09

about the NBA MVP race. It is getting

18:11

serious, like we said at the top of

18:13

the episode, vitriol is being thrown both ways

18:15

and it's perfectly timed because the Oklahoma

18:17

City Thunder, the Never Nuggets, just played

18:19

back to back games and back to

18:21

back days, which is absolutely insane way

18:23

to schedule for the season. What is

18:26

wrong with you? But in the first

18:28

game of the scene, now let's do

18:30

it. And it was funny too. The

18:32

first one is on ABC, it's the

18:34

Sunday primetime game, and the next one

18:36

is on NBA TV, on a Monday,

18:38

like, nobody cares about the second one.

18:40

Yeah. Narratives are crafted with the first

18:42

game, and in that first game, it was a

18:44

close game for three quarters, but in

18:46

the end, the Thunder One and Shea had 40 points,

18:48

and they won. By a margin, I made a look

18:50

decisive. They won by double digits, which was I think

18:52

like their 40th double-digit win. I think 41st or 42nd.

18:54

They lead the league in that. And they're just like

18:57

10 years away from breaking out records. It's insane. It's

18:59

crazy. So when this game ended and Shea had another

19:01

40-point game, he did stacking them up. He ever checked 41 for

19:03

the week and went three and no. It makes no sense. People were

19:05

talking. Nail on the coffin. Nail on the coffin. The if the coffee.

19:07

The AP race is over. The AP race is over. The AP. The

19:09

AP race is over. The AP race is over. The AP. The AP.

19:11

The AP race is over. The AP. The AP. The AP. The AP. The

19:13

AP. The AP. The AP. The AP. The AP. The AP. The AP. The

19:15

AP. The AP. The AP. The AP. Over Yokech, who

19:17

was having the statistically better season, best

19:20

player, but you know, the team's better

19:22

with Shea, and he's been rising to

19:24

another levels of score. And then

19:26

the second day comes around. And the

19:28

Nuggets win that game. They win the rematch. Yokech

19:30

has 35 points, 18 rebounds, 75% from the

19:32

field. SGA hits 25 and 7. Chet has

19:34

his worst game of his career. He won

19:37

for 10 to star. It was crazy. So

19:39

they split the series. So they split the

19:41

series, which now, which now, maybe that kind

19:43

of softens softens the whole. Shea and did

19:45

the debate thing? Well you already said it.

19:48

One of these games on NBA TV. I

19:50

don't care about that. I don't care

19:52

about that. If Mike Breen is not

19:54

calling the game, it don't matter. But

19:56

it is, it is very, very interesting.

19:58

I still think that Shea has. it locked

20:00

up I've also thought the Shea

20:02

shit it's locked up locked up

20:04

it's okay you can't say these

20:06

locked up yet like there's no

20:08

I do I do think that

20:10

it that it's locked up I think

20:13

that for the for the people

20:15

that for the people who have

20:17

like years of voting or

20:20

whatever and there's the

20:22

precedent Shea fits that okay

20:24

right like Shea fits best team

20:26

best player there One of the best

20:29

teams by a landslide in the league that

20:31

dominating everybody. If you want to talk about

20:33

guys who are just going out there and

20:35

getting buckets and having these amazing performances, Shea

20:38

is doing that. I think that for a

20:40

large amount of the people who are voting

20:42

for your kids or saying that he should

20:44

be MVP. Not to say that Yolkis doesn't have

20:47

a deserving case, but I think the people arguing

20:49

for it are doing it out of bad faith.

20:51

Yeah, there's bad faith arguing on both sides, that's

20:53

how it goes. No matter what, there's going to

20:55

be bad faith arguing. Arguing. Some people are going

20:57

to call Shea a free throw merchant who is

20:59

only a score, doesn't provide anything else. Some people

21:01

are going to say Yolkis can't defend anything. He's

21:04

a stat pattern. There's bullshit on both sides. There

21:06

always will be in these type of these type

21:08

of these type of close debates. There always

21:10

will be in these type of close debates. Right

21:12

now, Yokich's MVP case is just as

21:14

strong as it has been any other

21:16

year that he's wanted. He's having his

21:19

best statistical season. He's up his level of

21:21

efficiency and volume into a place that

21:23

we've never seen before. He's just as

21:25

sharp as we've never seen before. He's

21:27

just as sharp as ever. The team

21:29

is just as mid as ever. He's

21:31

doing just as much of a carry job

21:33

we've ever seen, which is part of why

21:35

he's won if he's in the past, and

21:37

then the second seed in the second seed.

21:39

So it's kind of a combination of all

21:41

those previous cases, but I do kind

21:44

of still agree that Shea's the MVP. And

21:46

it feels weird because in general over

21:48

the last five years of NBA

21:50

discourse, I fucking hate the like

21:52

best player best team automatically deserves

21:54

an idea. But Shea's been the second

21:57

best player in the league this year. And

21:59

while I don't. think best team automatically gets

22:01

you it like some people do? It's

22:03

a it's a factor and they are

22:05

so much better than everybody else. It's

22:07

the level of dominance that we're seeing by

22:10

Shea and the Oklahoma City Thunder. I

22:12

think that's like the extra level boost

22:14

round like okay when it comes to

22:16

the how you believe the voters are

22:18

going to vote based off the president

22:20

that they set years ago. They set years

22:22

ago. Yes. I think it's going to lean

22:24

that way like I'm 60% sure he's going

22:26

to win MVP. Yeah, for sure. And

22:28

I don't think it's not necessarily just

22:30

as a team is so dominant, because

22:32

we've seen it before, it's because

22:34

he is carrying almost as hard

22:36

offensively as yoches. And it sounds

22:38

crazy because Yoches is the best

22:40

score, best playmaker, the nuggets suck

22:42

ass without him. And people will

22:44

have this idea that the Thunder

22:46

would be good without Shea, which is just

22:49

wrong. But his on-off isn't as

22:51

dramatic as dramatic as a. bench units

22:53

without him fall off a god-dam cliff. And

22:55

that's because the Thunder have an amazing

22:57

defense with or without Shea, right? But

22:59

offensively, his swing is gigantic because there's,

23:01

I've said it all year, there's two

23:03

people on this team that can dribble.

23:05

One is Jaylon Williams, who has had

23:07

an inconsistent scoring season, and one is Shea.

23:09

Their entire offense only works because of him and

23:11

his ability to create and keep the offense

23:13

moving. Their whole team construction is like the

23:16

O1. Alan Iverson 76ers where they say we're

23:18

going to make a team full of defensive

23:20

goons and this go-to score is going to

23:22

be the offense. That it looks different than what

23:24

Yokaj is doing, but it's nearly as

23:26

impressive a carry job. So if you

23:28

combine that with the team success that

23:30

he's responsible for. I think it's fair to

23:32

go towards you. And what makes it

23:34

even more impressive of a carry job

23:37

is the efficiency and the rate that

23:39

he's consistently doing it at. Like you've

23:41

seen guys get their shit off. We've

23:43

seen guys like Bradley Biel get their

23:46

shut off and get like 31, 32

23:48

points per game or win the scoring

23:50

time or whatnot. But with Shea, it's

23:52

just different because it's efficient from all

23:55

levels of the court and specifically in

23:57

the paint, mid range too. It's generationally

23:59

generationally. twice his size, but six, nine,

24:01

six, ten, six, eleven, seven footers do.

24:03

And he's just six, six, bro. Yeah,

24:06

and like, and I fully understand the

24:08

yokage side too, that like, the best

24:10

player is by definition more valuable

24:12

to some people, right? It's the same

24:14

argument from people who are saying Braun

24:16

should have more. Now that's yokish because

24:18

he's the more talented player. So I

24:21

get it to yokage fans, he's the

24:23

basketball Messiah. and you should always go towards

24:25

the best player and he will always be

24:27

the best player. So every given year they're

24:29

going to want him to win and will

24:31

be disappointed if he doesn't. And I understand

24:33

the line of thinking. The simple reality is

24:35

best player doesn't always automatically guarantee the MVP

24:37

in how people vote and how people want

24:40

to choose to make the award go. It's

24:42

a collective factor award, not just you're the

24:44

best individual player. It always has been, it

24:46

always will be, even if we don't necessarily

24:48

want it want it to be.

24:51

So I understand your perspective, but

24:53

you're arguing from a basis that

24:55

just isn't reality. Yeah, like there's

24:58

so many moving parts when it

25:00

comes to this conversation. And to

25:02

me, I think, for example, if

25:04

the Oklahoma City of Thunder weren't

25:07

as good as they are this year

25:09

and they were closer to like, I

25:11

don't know, 51 instead of like 58

25:13

or whatever they're at right now, then

25:15

the conversation will be a lot

25:17

tighter than what we see it as right now.

25:20

When you deplete that, then there's no

25:22

rule. There's an argument obviously

25:24

still, but it's not as strong.

25:26

Someone said if Yokish played for a

25:28

better team, he'd be untouchable. Yeah,

25:30

probably. If he was on a 70 win

25:33

team or 67 win team, whatever it's gonna

25:35

finalize as. Yeah, you're right. He's not. We

25:37

can do this every year. If Janus was

25:39

on a 67 win team, he would also

25:41

win the MVP. Only one of them is

25:43

actually winning 67 games in 67 games in reality.

25:45

And again, the win loss column. But

25:47

it's something. It is something. And in

25:50

this case, that win loss column is

25:52

directly correlated to one guy being the

25:54

team. Like people are like, okay, see

25:56

as a super team, well, you're okay,

25:58

just carrying no all-stars. I'm like, bro, there

26:00

are super team in your eyes in terms of

26:02

net rating. People say that because of Shea. He

26:05

is a super team. If he wasn't there

26:07

and you want to say they'd be a

26:09

good team still and they'd win games without

26:11

him, okay, he obviously makes him go

26:13

from decent team to the god damn best

26:15

team in the league. That is a big

26:18

time carry job that is worthy of a

26:20

most valuable player. And it's not even like

26:22

anybody is looking at like the Cleveland Cavaliers

26:24

on the other side of the other

26:27

side of the league who are pacing.

26:29

Oh yeah, Demitch, that's the MVP of

26:31

the league. Yeah, nobody's saying that because

26:33

you obviously have to have the requisite

26:36

performance to get there. And the best,

26:38

the best player, best team, yes, that

26:40

has always been a part of

26:42

the conversation, but we've seen it

26:45

in years past where that's not

26:47

the automatic. like everybody was making

26:49

fun of Devin Booker a couple

26:51

years ago when the sons were

26:54

amazing and people were trying to

26:56

like shoehorn Devin Booker into conversations

26:58

last year when people were talking

27:00

about Jason Tatum trying to be

27:03

in MVP conversations and we were up

27:05

here saying like no that's really not where

27:07

he belongs you see it time and time

27:09

again that if you are watching these games

27:11

and you know this guy is not moving

27:14

the way in MVP is he's not performing

27:16

the way in MVP does then then

27:18

Regardless of the team is like at

27:20

the top of the league, they're not going

27:22

to do that So like does she have

27:24

that tiebreaker? Yes Do you think that like

27:26

it should slash shouldn't matter? Whatever

27:29

like that's personal preference,

27:31

but like president set aside You

27:33

would still I was still picture what

27:35

about you I was still picture what

27:38

about you? I was still picture what

27:40

about president? I just see I was

27:42

laughing because you said president and I

27:44

was thinking about it and I'm the

27:46

last day possible If it had today, I'd

27:49

probably lean she, but I don't feel good

27:51

about it at all. I feel like it's

27:53

the closest race we've had as long as

27:55

I've been like conscious of NBA award debates.

27:58

Okay, I guess. Shout out to I. love

28:00

Mo's toes for tipping $69. Oh wow.

28:02

Lovely. He said Thunder should trade for

28:04

Trey Young with all that draft

28:07

capital they have and anything else

28:09

that would tickle the hawk's brain

28:11

in that direction. That would bomb

28:13

the entire, that would bomb the,

28:15

bomb O Casey. It wouldn't bomb

28:18

us. It was all the draft

28:20

capital. I ain't, I ain't tripping

28:22

too hard. Shout out to Bush

28:24

did Hirambe for tipping $5. Wow. Shout

28:26

out to Mo, your shoes are untie or $3. Appreciate

28:28

all of you. I didn't know we were toe watches

28:31

on this podcast, but okay. That's why I wear shoes

28:33

now. Someone said it's silly to say that pro-yokage MVP arguments

28:35

are made in bad faith. He's still leading the Basel reference

28:37

MVP prediction. Don't give a shit about that. He's leading a

28:39

second seed that without him would be the 10 seed. Yeah,

28:41

no one said every yokage case is in bad faith. It's

28:43

that some people are taking it in bad faith. If that's

28:46

not you, that's not you. That's not you. No one is

28:48

saying there's not you. No one is saying there's not you.

28:50

There's not you. There's not you. There's not you. There's not

28:52

you. There's not. There's not. There's not. There's not. There's not.

28:54

There's not. There's not. There's not. There's not. There's not. There's

28:56

not. There's not. But you understand that there is bad faith

28:58

arguments on both sides, especially by Yolkic fans

29:00

who are, you know, as Yolkic fan, I

29:03

can tell you, fanatical about him

29:05

because he is a, European players

29:07

have very, very intense fan bases

29:09

because they represent entire countries, so

29:11

they get die-hard fans, and when

29:14

you have that, plus he's the

29:16

best player in the league, plus

29:18

he doesn't get the attention in

29:21

the media, because he's overlooked, he's

29:23

overlooked, he's European. But that leads

29:25

to some bad faith arguments.

29:28

That isn't invalidate every single

29:30

argument. There are very

29:33

very good reasons to argue

29:35

Yoakage's MVP, but there are also

29:37

some that are bit eye-roly,

29:39

especially after he wanted over

29:41

Lucca. In large part, Mrs.

29:43

Team was better. No, 100%

29:45

because his team was better. Lucca

29:48

is doing some crazy stuff

29:50

over here and his team is

29:52

winning. Yeah, it's the same thing this year. Like

29:54

I understand. It's a little bit different for Lucas

29:56

though, because like he didn't do it. He was

29:58

doing it the entirety season. but his team

30:00

was asked for like yes and it's

30:03

also different because the next is the

30:05

two seed so there are the two

30:07

not like what did they finish at

30:09

the five or four the Mavericks so

30:11

to the credit of yokech fans he's

30:14

the two seats so he's as close

30:16

as you can get and you could

30:18

do the best argument for yokech is

30:20

he's as close as you could possibly

30:22

get in the circumstance of him having

30:24

the worst team right so you're gonna

30:27

you know he does they're gonna have

30:29

a worst record because the team is

30:31

significantly worse around around these two stars

30:33

in the fact that he's number two,

30:35

you can't get any closer to making

30:38

up that gap talent wise, seating wise.

30:40

You know why? You know why? Why?

30:42

Because the other candidate has played so

30:44

well that his team is like 10

30:46

games clear of the two seed, right?

30:49

He's contributed to the Thunder being 10-12

30:51

games ahead of everybody. We were talking

30:53

about three weeks ago, or a month

30:55

ago, whatever, like, yo, the Thunder on

30:57

a 70 win pace. Right, like they

31:00

have been dominant from start to finish.

31:02

And so yes, Shea has a lot

31:04

of legs up over Yoakage because he

31:06

is also dominating. Isaac spent 20 minutes

31:08

on the, we talked for 20 minutes

31:11

last week about how generational. and how

31:13

amazing Shea's scoring season is and how

31:15

he's having one of the best scoring

31:17

seasons a guard has ever had. And

31:19

yes, I understand that Yokej is doing

31:22

something the same and he just had

31:24

that amazing 30, 20, and 20 game

31:26

which is ridiculous. But just because Yokej

31:28

is making history doesn't mean that anything

31:30

that Shea is doing is also not

31:33

historic or not amazing. Yeah, and they're

31:35

both MVP caliber individual productions. And like,

31:37

and this is, this is what you

31:39

want from an MVP race. Yeah, you

31:41

know what this is? Honestly, this is

31:44

Yokech's fans first time at the Braun

31:46

Rodeo, where we understand fully, everybody knows,

31:48

he is the best player in the

31:50

world. Where we understand fully, everybody knows,

31:52

he is the best player in the

31:54

world. And you're gonna hear that, people

31:57

are for years. And you know That's

31:59

the reality people aren't gonna only go

32:01

off who's the best player like there's

32:03

other factors involved and You're not gonna

32:05

like it ever Yeah, that's why me

32:08

personally. I think I might be the

32:10

odd man out I might slightly lean

32:12

towards yokech if I had a personal

32:14

vote now I don't say that strongly

32:17

I don't say that proudly You think B.R

32:19

could get his votes Can you imagine how hilarious

32:21

would be if BRC votes? If BRC votes, I'll play

32:23

both sides. I would not want people to know

32:25

how I feel. Look at the list of who has

32:27

votes and they see us next to T&T. They got

32:29

us a vote because they're one of us family. How

32:32

long me go see? Try young. I'm going to

32:34

fuck someone over here. They go to

32:36

our channel and they see us talking

32:38

about ball-headed players and shit. I've never

32:40

asked Sam, but I want to know.

32:42

I feel like it's probably it's probably

32:44

is probably not impossible. It's probably not

32:46

impossible. It's probably not impossible. But yeah,

32:48

so you're... I make some calls, man.

32:50

I'm thinking about this. So over the

32:52

last year, this is like kind of

32:54

a side question. What MVP outcome

32:57

has bothered you guys the most? Ooh.

32:59

MVP, do we get wrong? Which one

33:01

has bothered us the most? Which

33:03

one has bothered us the most? Which

33:05

one has bothered us the most? Which

33:08

one has bothered us the most? I

33:10

wish you asked the first one that

33:12

comes to mind. Obviously everyone

33:15

hates the mind. 2017.

33:17

No, I don't, I don't,

33:19

I don't, I'm not super

33:21

passionate about that. Yeah, I, I,

33:23

I, no, I'm not, I'm

33:26

not super passionate with

33:28

that one. Uh, I

33:30

don't, honestly, I don't

33:32

really hate any of

33:34

the outcomes. Probably Joelle

33:37

and Beat over Yochikits,

33:39

but I understand how

33:41

we got there, so I don't

33:43

think Joelle and Beat's,

33:46

um, I was very pro LeBron in

33:48

2018. That was such a revision

33:50

of history. You said you were pro-ovon,

33:52

so I believe you in the

33:54

moment. But like that was a

33:56

topic conversation later. So many people

33:58

use the 2018 playoffs. to like revisionist

34:00

history, to revisionist history, his regular season MVP standings,

34:02

there was no way in fuck LeBron's winning MVP

34:05

2018. I still, I still do think that like,

34:07

I think with that, with that roster, getting that

34:09

roster to 50 wins, yeah, I think that, and

34:11

obviously like LeBron's just playing at, you know, kind

34:13

of regular LeBron levels, I thought, yeah, I thought

34:16

it was like, 2018 could have went Bronze

34:18

Way, but, but like, but like, but then you go back and

34:20

you look back and you look at 2018, and you look

34:22

at 2018 James Hardy, James Hardy, James Hardy,

34:24

James Hardy, James Hardy. He's getting that.

34:26

Yeah. I think for me personally,

34:28

if I was to answer my

34:31

own question, I'll probably lean towards,

34:33

and this question, like this MVP

34:35

race feels similar-ish to this one.

34:37

Obviously, Chase better, but it's D-rolls

34:40

versus LeBron back in 2011. The

34:42

Bulls were first placed, it wasn't as wide

34:44

as a gap, I think the Bulls won

34:46

62 games and... They won 66? 66? Yeah.

34:48

No way, that's six, six is crazy, but

34:50

if they did, regardless of number one.

34:52

Why is it me being? Regardless, he's

34:54

number one, and in the fashion that

34:56

DeRose did it, is not similar to

34:58

Shea, but you get a lot of

35:00

the same arguments, team has built. around

35:02

you, you're you're allowed to cook as AI-sty

35:05

basketball, style basketball, and you have a bunch

35:07

of long lengthy defenders, don't keep no law,

35:09

dang, and all those guys of the world.

35:12

Super sim, you mean like, Loki's similar build

35:14

of a team as well as OKC this

35:16

year. But at the end of the day,

35:18

if you look at the other side of

35:21

the argument, LeBron is the Braun, we all

35:23

know how much better he is, he was

35:25

at the time than Derek. You're not giving

35:27

it, this is the same reason why Steve

35:29

and Katie were never thought about as MVP

35:32

because you look over and you look at

35:34

the roster and it's like, okay, you guys

35:36

are that good. The moment you say I'm

35:38

gonna play with Duane Wade and Chris Bosch

35:40

in 2011, you are out of the MVP

35:42

for like for a couple years. Yeah, and

35:44

especially the first year of the Super Team,

35:46

like he was never gonna win. That was

35:48

a hard PR to go up against. Oh,

35:50

shout out to Wardell Glazer for

35:52

tipping $25. He said, my warriors

35:54

are looking good. Isaac, y'all better

35:56

pray you don't get the first

35:58

round matchup. Ooh. Hey, he's coming after you

36:01

with that one. God damn. I don't play on

36:03

the TV. I have an avocado for $12. So

36:05

it's a one, two, three, four, for tip and

36:07

$5. Say, show his question. Tell him what you

36:09

got on your feet. Oh, he said, Isaac, what

36:12

are those? These are Nike slides. They are definitely,

36:14

like, easy knockoff, but they are like it. So

36:16

I'm like, essentially Nike foam runners. Are they comfortable?

36:18

They're comfortable as hell. That's why I got them

36:20

mine. If I had them bitches on, it looked

36:22

like it increased my vertical by 10 inches. It

36:25

shout out to one, two, four, ten, five dollars.

36:27

He said, so how do you feel about the

36:29

most improved player race? That's a good one. How

36:31

do y'all feel about the most improved player race?

36:33

That's a good one. I seen the turn of

36:36

this conversation. I think the turn of this conversation.

36:38

I may be true but he's at least the

36:40

most like notable one where it's like oh shit

36:42

like who the fuck saw this like coming out

36:44

of nowhere. Can I see something controversial? Go ahead.

36:46

You said you're getting at the fact that you

36:49

think top pick shouldn't win it because they're expected

36:51

to be stars? Yeah but evolution time goes maybe

36:53

I'm being an old man it is what it?

36:55

I fucking hate that argument with all my heart

36:57

and I feel like people are finding a reason

37:00

to be cry babies about that. I understand it

37:02

so like I don't think it's stupid so like

37:04

I don't think it's stupid but I don't think

37:06

it's stupid but I don't think it's stupid but

37:08

I'm so like I don't think it's stupid but

37:10

I'm so like I'm so like I don't think

37:13

it's stupid but I'm so like it's stupid but

37:15

I'm so like I'm so like I'm so like

37:17

I'm so like it's stupid but I'm so like

37:19

I'm so like I'm so like I don't think

37:21

it's stupid but I'm Because like you said things

37:23

change and we have an understanding now that becoming

37:26

a star player is an important thing possible and

37:28

how hard it is to go from being good

37:30

to being great like that's extremely difficult oftentimes more

37:32

difficult to go from that than being irrelevant to

37:34

being good. Yeah. And we understand that everyone acknowledges

37:37

that but they're still like I want to see

37:39

Christian Brown awarded I'm like Why? We don't think

37:41

that's more important of an improvement. We don't think

37:43

that's a more difficult improvement. Why do we want

37:45

that, if not for just nostalgia? Sizable. It's the

37:47

most sizable improvement. You're starting to, you want to

37:50

give the number one overall bit. The fucking, you

37:52

should be good. What is surprising about that? What

37:54

is surprising about that? You want to get the

37:56

number two, number three, overall. You're supposed to be

37:58

more for everything these days for these top guys.

38:01

I'm not saying. specifically, but like, John Moran is

38:03

when people go to the lot. John Moran deserved

38:05

most improved player. He went from being a good

38:07

rookie who was living up to the hype to

38:09

being god damn dominant and there was a two

38:11

seed in the second year. Like, he, that was

38:14

a big leap and not a weak class too.

38:16

Exactly. It was not like competition. I'm not gonna

38:18

have out here and put my cape on for

38:20

Christian Brown deserving it. Like it's some huge gigantic

38:22

improvement. Like it was some seismicemic

38:24

shift in the world. Like it. Like it. I'm not

38:26

going to shed tears over the fact

38:29

that players get rewarded for becoming stars.

38:31

I think it's totally understandable. If that's

38:33

understandable, I don't like it.

38:35

This is not for you.

38:38

Like, you know, like, would

38:40

it be P? That's the

38:42

real war that I want

38:44

to see you win. In

38:46

the actual spirit of

38:49

the award, like, that's

38:51

what I mean. This is, that's

38:53

what I mean. This is not,

38:55

this is, this is, this is,

38:58

this is not, this is not

39:00

for you, this is, for a

39:02

guy that from the moment that

39:04

he got into the league, the

39:06

ball has been in his hands

39:09

the entire time, right? Like he's

39:11

had every single opportunity to, and

39:13

obviously his situation has been

39:16

very, very dire, right? But in

39:18

theory, he's had all the opportunity

39:20

in the world to showcase his

39:22

talents, whatever. There are some other

39:25

guys who. May not have had the

39:27

opportunity or may have stepped into into

39:29

a new situation and now they are

39:31

they are fully, you know starting

39:34

to bottom. I I would much rather

39:36

give this award to like Norm Powell

39:38

than to then to Cape Manhattan. So

39:40

is this award? Most opportunity gained or

39:43

most improved? So that's the thing too.

39:45

It's not only like the most opportunity

39:47

Obviously if it was the most opportunity

39:49

fucking guys like Julius Randall or something

39:51

like that would have wanted a minute

39:53

ago It's like actually genuinely most improved

39:55

as well like the Victorly depots of

39:57

the world guys like he was a

39:59

perfect winner like That's yeah he is like

40:01

the poster boy for that you have to

40:03

actually get better. Yeah and you could argue

40:05

again I'm not gonna use this argument but

40:08

you could say that Kay having the same

40:10

role and just being way more effective he

40:12

actually improved it's not just he got more

40:14

touches getting touches doesn't necessarily mean you're better

40:17

you just have more opportunity that's not what

40:19

most improved means you know and I'm not

40:21

saying that's a bad argument every time like

40:23

that's very worthwhile. If Kay didn't make this

40:26

star leap this star leap this year I

40:28

think we totally fine if Dyson Daniels or

40:30

Christian Brown want or whatever, but we spend

40:32

so much time talking about the fact that

40:35

Kay Cunningham's season is so impressive. That in

40:37

itself tells you that we didn't necessarily see

40:39

it coming. Nobody was saying before this season

40:41

he was going to be a top 15

40:44

player in the world this year, be a

40:46

top 5 point guard, like just because he

40:48

was drafted highly. Doesn't mean it's necessarily expected.

40:50

Otherwise it wouldn't be so celebrated. This is

40:52

clearly a big deal and he got meaningfully

40:55

better, but you were drafted number one overall

40:57

and so I think the expectation of it

40:59

just like eliminates you from those like But

41:01

you don't see less arbitrary like we don't

41:04

do anything else like if you improve you

41:06

improve it's not necessarily like disqualifying somebody. No,

41:08

but it's the same way how with the

41:10

MVP award we know we know that the

41:13

best player in the world is the most

41:15

valuable But that's not really what this is.

41:17

Because if it is, because if it is,

41:19

LeBron would have 10, Jordan would have 10,

41:22

it would be like a championship belt that

41:24

like you hold, you know, like that you

41:26

hold for like a decade or something, which

41:28

would be very, very fire. And I do

41:31

think that they should have an MVP belt

41:33

and we need to start passing it around

41:35

like like, that would be very, very cool.

41:37

But so there's like, there is the idea

41:40

of, okay, this is what we are doing

41:42

with this award. Which is with MEP kind

41:44

of how we treat it the same thing

41:46

with with most improved You kind of we've

41:48

known kind of the archetype of player that

41:51

we are giving this this award to and

41:53

if you want to go and Religate it

41:55

based on like the strict strict definition of

41:57

most improved Then and that's why I kind

42:00

of feel like it's happening now Okay, fine,

42:02

but we also do this with every single

42:04

award where you say most improved

42:06

or you have whatever

42:08

superlative and over

42:11

the course of decades or

42:13

whatever, we kind of as

42:15

a consensus come to a

42:17

meeting. Nobody to this day has

42:19

a finite, um... criteria for

42:21

like coach of the year. Yeah, right? But

42:24

we know we thought you were going to

42:26

be trash. Your team isn't as trash and

42:28

you don't really have a star player. So

42:30

we're just going to say coaching most improved

42:33

is kind of the same thing. Most valuable

42:35

is the same thing. Six men of the

42:37

year. Who was scoring the most points? Yeah,

42:39

that's the most fine. Like that's kind of

42:42

what it is. Things change over time. And

42:44

I have no issue with the meaning of

42:46

most improved shifting towards the definition of improvement.

42:48

And what we think is the hardest

42:50

improvement, the most important improvement, the most

42:52

valuable improvement. Like, I'm not necessarily upset

42:54

that it's shifting that way. Again, I

42:56

understand that it is a shift and

42:58

it's not what it once was. And

43:01

it's more rewarding of star talent because I think

43:03

everybody's under the other side. Like, somebody has to

43:05

think about the working NBA play. Somebody has to

43:07

think about the middle class. Got to share the

43:09

love. It's like, how do you want to like,

43:11

if you want to, Angle your league

43:13

and like focus on all the

43:15

stars only than sure go for a

43:18

row But like it's a well-rounded

43:20

league, you know You got six

43:22

men of the year. We're giving

43:24

them an award. Six men of

43:26

the year! Six men of the year!

43:29

Six men of the year! Six

43:31

men of the year! They happen of

43:33

the year. Six men of the year!

43:35

Six men players. They happen a

43:37

lot. You know who starts and

43:39

got better this year by a lot?

43:42

You got your recognition. Somebody has to stand

43:44

up for the Christian browser. Somebody has to

43:46

stand up for all of these Mitchells for

43:48

the Dyson Daniels of the world. Do you

43:50

know how embarrassing it is for the award

43:52

winners to be like, Jean-Mirat, you are the

43:54

most improved player of the year ward. He's

43:56

like, bro, I don't even want this shit.

43:58

Get that shit to Desmond Bain. It's embarrassing.

44:00

Yeah, again, I I'm not mad at the

44:02

change. I wouldn't be upset with either

44:04

if it was how it was before, but

44:06

I think people do so much like moral

44:09

like soapboxing abet it like it's like bad

44:11

for the game and I'm like, I feel

44:13

like it's just an understandable change. I like,

44:15

it's fine. It's normal. Yeah, I can understand

44:17

it for sure. If you want to angle the

44:19

game in like. Give it to players who

44:21

are clearly making that like superstar type leap.

44:24

Fuck she could have got it a couple

44:26

years ago, bro, because none of us saw

44:28

this type of leap coming, you know, and

44:30

now that it's here, it's clearly shocking. If

44:32

that's what you're doing, how you want to

44:34

angle it, I understand it, but me personally,

44:37

there's just some things that just needs to

44:39

be the same. It just doesn't feel right.

44:41

It doesn't feel good. I don't really care

44:43

about this award at all, so I'm not

44:46

here. You're the number one overall pick. You

44:48

better have improved, you know? Yeah, again, I

44:50

don't even give a show who wins. I'm

44:52

not like, can't better win at what any means.

44:54

I just think it's fine if it's fine if

44:56

it's fine if it's fine if he does. We're

44:59

seeing itself my personal our personal definitions

45:01

of this award I would lean

45:03

towards someone like Dyson Daniels I

45:05

believe surprise surprise great barrier thief

45:07

is a fucking monster on both

45:09

sides of the floor now brother

45:11

it's happening that's a good thing

45:13

I'm both sides of the floor

45:15

now brother it's happening that's a

45:18

good I kind of like that

45:20

pick more what tell the hero

45:22

became an all-star when we were

45:24

talking about him as like a

45:26

role player from that two with

45:28

that two That's kind of become the

45:30

barrier for entry for this award. That's

45:32

the number one. And I think that's

45:34

kind of okay. Unless there's a year

45:36

where there's no all-stars that are

45:38

gained, then like obviously give it to a

45:40

Christian Brown type. Yeah. I'd be okay if the

45:43

award came down to who became an

45:45

all-star this year. And there's Tyler Hero,

45:47

there's Evan Mobley, there's Jaylyn Williams, and

45:50

there's Kate, and you picked Tyler Hero

45:52

because he was the worst last year.

45:54

And you know what? Nope. All right.

45:57

You know, you know, that's fair. I'm

45:59

okay. with people saying you need to become an all-star.

46:01

Yeah. And I'm also okay with you saying top two bits can't

46:03

be that. Yeah. I'm not gonna necessarily spend time arguing that Christian

46:05

standardized and Daniels are robbed. That's all I'm saying. Over the last

46:08

few years. Well, he didn't play the games anymore, so we can't

46:10

even go, we can't even grasp that on that. And it's just

46:12

like that when it comes to Norma Powell. I'm like, it's probably

46:14

more opportunity. I don't know if you actually, you actually, you got

46:16

better, you got better, you got better, you got better, you got

46:18

better, you got better, a bucket, bucket, bucket, bucket, bucket, bucket, bucket,

46:20

bucket, bucket getting, but it, bucket getting, but it, but it, but

46:22

it, but it, but it, bucket getting, but it, but it, but

46:24

it, but it, but it, but it, but it, but it, but

46:26

it, but it, but it, but But going back to what I

46:29

was going to say, when it comes to your point

46:31

about clear indicators of who will

46:33

win this award, it all dates

46:35

back to who's making their first

46:37

All-Star team, 2024, Tari, Sam, 2023,

46:39

lottery market, and John Moran happened,

46:42

Julius Randall happened, Ingram, Siakam.

46:44

It's, that is the same. Yeah, which

46:46

is crazy. And see another thing is

46:48

too, like among those players, I think

46:51

library marketing is like, that's contract year

46:53

too. Also, if you are in your

46:55

contract years, you cannot win most of

46:58

them. Because it's fake stats. You're not

47:00

getting your votes. I can't do it.

47:02

You can't be a top three pit,

47:04

you can't be in your contract year.

47:07

Yeah, that's fair. In a perfect world

47:09

a lot of marking type of win

47:11

it every year the guy goes on

47:13

role player to all-star your best player

47:16

team if there's not a perfect candidate

47:18

in any given year I'm not gonna

47:20

necessarily be upset if Kate wins.

47:22

I wish there's a perfect candidate

47:24

like I wish Dice and Daniel's

47:26

an all-star I would love for

47:28

Dice and Daniels in that case

47:30

but if you don't have a

47:32

clear card guy you need the

47:34

validation of all-star voting. Yeah it's

47:36

very It's very like tangible where people can

47:39

point to and like you made the leaf

47:41

to an all-star that it's very easy to

47:43

track in that way. But again some years it

47:45

might not be a new all-star and you get

47:47

a whoever else has won it without being an

47:49

all-star. Yeah, scenes every year, I understand that. Okay,

47:51

either way, it seems like Kay Cunningham is

47:53

going to win. I've never had a conversation,

47:56

I think I'd rather vote Tyler Heroa, but

47:58

I will not lose sleep over it. Yeah.

48:00

Next story we've talked about. One

48:02

minute. LeBron James is injured by

48:04

the way. I don't know if

48:06

you'll hurt. In which the Lakers

48:08

got absolutely clamped up, he got

48:10

hurt in the last five minutes

48:12

of the game. He is the

48:14

next one to two weeks. He's

48:16

the Knicks fan. They got a

48:18

lot. He is, and he better

48:20

be talking. We're talking about that

48:22

game later. LeBron James suspected Mr.

48:24

Approximately probably going to be closer

48:26

to two weeks than it is

48:28

to one. The timeline is one

48:30

to two. They're obviously going to

48:32

be conservative, because they have to

48:34

get him ready for the playoffs.

48:36

But in the meantime, they're playing

48:38

with no LeBron James. No Marie

48:40

Hatchemora. No Jackson Hayes. No Dorian

48:42

Finney Smith. and Lukas Donchitch is

48:44

playing like he weighs three in

48:46

Japan still. It's not a good

48:48

time to have to get wins

48:50

and keep that second seed. It's

48:52

gonna be rough going for the

48:54

Lakers. I just hope that he's

48:56

healthy by the playoffs and that

48:58

in this time it was Louis

49:00

has to do everything. This man

49:02

has got all the reps he

49:04

needs to finally learn how to

49:06

score at the room again because

49:08

my God is his inside the

49:10

arc scoring. It's truly atrocious. It's

49:12

truly atrocious. I've been ignoring. I've

49:14

been ignoring it. We

49:17

haven't seen good luka scoring inside the arc

49:19

since early last season We have like

49:21

11 months of sample size now. I'll leave

49:23

it there We'll probably talk about in

49:25

a future episode, but it's not super promising.

49:27

I do have a question for you

49:29

guys. Okay Were

49:32

we too hard on... No, because... No

49:34

matter what, it's dumb as fuck to

49:36

not shop Luka around. You could have

49:38

got more assets than what they got.

49:40

No matter what, it's stupid practice. But

49:43

we have put too much, we've cut

49:45

him too much slack in that like,

49:47

oh, he'll get his feet under him,

49:49

he'll get better, the scoring will be

49:51

fine. People are not realizing that since

49:53

March of last year, he hasn't been

49:56

getting into the rim. Like, it is

49:58

a long sample size now if his

50:00

scoring not being great. And there has

50:02

been too much. Like it's a real

50:04

problem that I think needs a full

50:07

summer of like be in the lab.

50:09

Like I don't expect him to be

50:11

back to pre-2020-23 levels of scoring. Until

50:13

next year. That's when you know that's

50:15

when you know that it's starting to

50:17

get bad. It's when you go on

50:20

Twitter and people play all high like

50:22

us and they're like whatever happened to

50:24

him. You're starting to see that with

50:26

Luka. I know exactly where you're talking

50:28

where you're talking about all day long.

50:31

So like it is a real thing

50:33

that he is not getting to the

50:35

rim his burst looks a little bit

50:37

worse and he's compensated for it like

50:39

we saw a late last year when

50:41

he averages fucking 34 with this still

50:44

being the case he was looking a

50:46

little hobbled under the last year his

50:48

shot making is just outrageous outrageous so

50:50

that will get more comfortable and outrageous

50:52

so that will get more comfortable and

50:54

we've seen stretches when he has big

50:57

games of Lakers where that shot making

50:59

is just like killing teams. kill you

51:01

attacking picks and switches. It's at the

51:03

point now where sometimes it feels like

51:05

the defense is like getting a one

51:08

up on him because they're like go

51:10

to him into taking tough mid-range uppers

51:12

because he can't blow by anybody and

51:14

that's where the problems lie. And that's

51:16

where they're gonna lie in the playoffs

51:18

if he looks like this. Yeah, they...

51:21

I don't care what the situation is.

51:23

If you have Luka right now, you

51:25

can't be losing games to the nets.

51:27

You can't you can't you can't be

51:29

doing this is not horribly so you're

51:32

right here. This is I know and

51:34

but this is this is one of

51:36

those moments where it's like okay it's

51:38

starting to to look at a little

51:40

scary where they miss five. They're like

51:42

five rotation players gone though. So I

51:45

know what you're saying, but the net's

51:47

win games if you haven't noticed. We

51:49

don't want them to, but the net's

51:51

fucking win games. So like, they didn't

51:53

lose the Wizards. The net's like, they're

51:56

respectable team. They refused to lose on

51:58

purpose and it's pissing everybody off, but

52:00

they're confident. You still can't lose, well,

52:02

first on. It was just, also, also,

52:04

it was also not great. It doesn't

52:06

feel right. It doesn't look good to

52:09

where the first game without LeBron and

52:11

you guys come in and you lay

52:13

an egg and you get the loss.

52:15

And now, like, the Lakers, their upcoming

52:17

stretch is about to be crazy. Oh,

52:20

they're going to lose a lot of

52:22

games. Yeah, I mean, again, Lucas should

52:24

win. Look who's playing with. His centers

52:26

are Trey, Alex, Lynn, Jameson, and Jared

52:28

Vanderbilt. That is a combined zero players

52:30

who can score inside. You have zero

52:33

lob threats, zero roll threats, nobody can

52:35

make a layup. Shout out Jamestine tries

52:37

real hard, has negative touch, Alex Lane

52:39

is horrible. He tries really hard and

52:41

shout out of him, he's been cool

52:44

defensively, he's earning a role for himself.

52:46

The worst scoring big I've ever seen.

52:48

The only ones who rivaled him are

52:50

Jared Vandibut and Alex Lane. Also some

52:52

of the worst scoring bigs I've ever

52:54

seen. So it's a real tough, tough

52:57

opportunity. to be asked of him to

52:59

like do well with those bigs. What's

53:01

the schedule coming up? Because they have.

53:03

They have two back to back. Because

53:05

they have Milwaukee in Denver. They play

53:08

four games in five days and guess

53:10

what? They pay back to back. Denver,

53:12

Milwaukee, have one day off. Denver, Milwaukee.

53:14

They play the same teams in two

53:16

back to back. Four games in five

53:18

days. It's ludicrous. No Braun. And maybe

53:21

no DFS, maybe no Jackson Hayes. That's

53:23

the most important thing. Those guys are

53:25

healthy. Or if two of those four

53:27

guys are healthy, they win this game

53:29

and Luke doesn't have to fight for

53:32

his life quite as much, it's a

53:34

whole lot to ask who's not scoring

53:36

well right now. and you have literally

53:38

no help, you have Dalton Connect and

53:40

Austin Reeves playing small forward. And Luko

53:42

was playing power forward last night and

53:45

starting lineup, by the way, it's tough.

53:47

Yeah, it's not looking too good for

53:49

you for y'all over there in La

53:51

La Lando, whatever, right? Yeah, it'll be

53:53

fine. The LeBron comes back in two

53:55

weeks, I'll be all right. But the

53:58

two C's out of the question, they're

54:00

not getting the two C. Yeah, I

54:02

just hope that LeBron can play enough

54:04

games to get enough games to get

54:06

to get to get to get to

54:09

get to like, like, like, like, like,

54:11

like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

54:13

like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

54:15

R, R, R, R, R, R, R,

54:17

R, R, R, R, R, R, R,

54:19

R, R, R, R, R, R, R,

54:22

R, R, R, R, R, R, R,

54:24

games. I love you so cool. I

54:26

think he's going to unless you listen

54:28

to the whole rest of the regular

54:30

season. It depends on when he's on

54:33

when he's gonna come back. But if

54:35

it really is just like one to

54:37

two weeks, then he should be fine.

54:39

But I mean, it's been it's been

54:41

a very, uh, he's paid 58 games

54:43

so far. Okay. So he needs seven.

54:46

Yeah. Some more games. The game on

54:48

Saturday against Boston was very, very fun.

54:50

As somebody who's rooting against the Lakers.

54:52

But also in that one. You know,

54:54

Jackson Hayes is a really, really big

54:57

deal for this team. He's a gigantic

54:59

deal. And one, he's just, he's good.

55:01

Like, sadly, like, he's just, he's been

55:03

a good player for them. Hey, we

55:05

don't root against players, but might have

55:07

been rooting against that player. I'm rooting

55:10

against players who can keep their hands

55:12

themselves. And there's some allegations in the

55:14

air. So I'm looking like he might

55:16

get rooted in the coming years. Very

55:18

good defender and a good enough role

55:21

man. He's not particularly good offensively. He

55:23

doesn't have like touch or like the

55:25

size to finish around people, but defensively

55:27

he's really important. And even offensively, just

55:29

by the nature of him being the

55:31

only big who can kind of roll,

55:34

he's everything. Because we mentioned with James

55:36

and Amanda Bill, they have no other

55:38

guys who are a threat to hit

55:40

a layup. Yeah, exactly. Something interesting about

55:42

his game too that just like makes

55:45

him so much more useful was his

55:47

ability to swing the ball. as a

55:49

connector here and there once in a

55:51

while. So valuable to other to other

55:53

shooters out there in the corner. So

55:55

fucking valuable bro. So yeah, you're in

55:58

the trenches, you're in the mud. But

56:00

Jackson Hayes is doing his thing. Aunch

56:02

in the chats that bro. is out,

56:04

stop talking about a haze being out.

56:06

Here's the thing. A healthy porzingus is

56:09

a concept. It is a figment of

56:11

your imagination. He'll even know what he

56:13

got right now. Yeah, he is. Shout

56:15

out of him. I hope he gets

56:17

well soon. He has an unrecognizable virus,

56:19

which is a terrible virus, which is

56:22

a terrible situation. Shout out of his,

56:24

which is a terrible virus, which is

56:26

a terrible situation. Which he pays for?

56:28

This is the Chrisos Prozingus experience. Now

56:30

also Drew Holiday was now, he's normally

56:32

available, so I understand that, like it's

56:35

not to say the other team is

56:37

whole, but you know, they're the better

56:39

team, they're used to playing without those

56:41

guys, the Lakers don't have depth, it

56:43

means a whole lot more to Lakers

56:46

to lose your starting center than it

56:48

does, like, the Lakers don't have depth,

56:50

it means a whole lot more to

56:52

Lakers to lose your starting center than

56:54

to go at. old. You see the

56:56

way Oscere was hunting his ass down?

56:59

There were a couple plays where I

57:01

was like backpedaling and he kind of

57:03

like lost his foot. I was like,

57:05

oh that's some old mess stuff right

57:07

there. He looked like he had played

57:10

in the league. It feels like he's

57:12

like a great player to guard someone

57:14

like Luca who's Luca's quick obviously but

57:16

he's not explosive. He used to be.

57:18

I'll offer doesn't have outs of expulsiveness

57:20

but he's hella smart and witty. Hesies

57:23

and all that Lucas is gonna hit

57:25

him hit him with he's a great

57:27

player, bro Yeah, either way we'll see

57:29

where the Lakers go in this stretch

57:31

It's gonna be rough. It's looking more

57:34

into three or four seeds in the

57:36

cards the two seeds probably not attainable

57:38

unless they just Miraculously hold their own

57:40

without LeBron James, but I'm not expecting

57:42

that personally What would go through your

57:44

mind if you went to the doctor,

57:47

you were sick for like a week

57:49

and they said, oh my, oh my

57:51

god brother, you have an unrecognizable virus?

57:53

I was fucking horrified. What would go

57:55

through your mind legitimate? It would be

57:58

true. Recognize it, please, like try harder.

58:00

What do you want me to say?

58:02

It's like if they don't know what's

58:04

wrong with me. RSVP my funeral.

58:06

Like, yeah. And so like,

58:09

obviously, we are hoping that

58:11

that does not happen. For

58:13

sure, for sure. Just the

58:15

idea is like unrecognizable, bro.

58:17

Yeah, I think it's bad

58:19

for everybody. Yeah. So we

58:22

have another injury news to talk

58:24

about similar magnitude. That was crazy.

58:26

Because as soon as this happened, I

58:28

texted in the chat and I

58:30

told Donovan, get ready to miss six

58:33

weeks of jail and Brunson. Because

58:35

that shit with like a high

58:37

ankle sprain and it looked bad. But apparently

58:39

it's not too bad. What are your hopes for

58:42

this team over the next couple weeks? Hey

58:44

man, just keep winning. Do you know? Okay,

58:46

this creep grounded bro, that's all it is.

58:48

Listen, we have a new assistant coach. His

58:50

name is P.J. Tucker. BJ Tucker came in

58:52

immediately cursing out everybody telling everybody if

58:55

you get an open look shoot the

58:57

ball he's bringing vibes he's bringing that

58:59

dog into our team and I yeah

59:01

you're just trying to you're trying to

59:04

get through it because right now like

59:06

Cleveland's gonna be the one seed and

59:08

I'll pull up the sentence right now

59:10

but Cleveland is gonna be the one

59:13

seed Boston is going to be the

59:15

two seed what you want to do

59:17

is you want to be able to hold

59:19

on to the three seed and it's It's okay,

59:21

right now the Knicks are four and a half

59:24

games up on the Bucks. And they are five

59:26

and a half, yeah, four and a half

59:28

games up on the Bucks, five and a

59:30

half games up on the Pacers. I don't

59:32

think that they're gonna go into some wild

59:34

tail spin over the next one to two

59:36

weeks. And this is also a very good

59:38

time to, we talked about it a little

59:41

bit last week when we were talking about

59:43

the Knicks. Get everybody else involved. A

59:45

lot of times. A lot of times with

59:47

the Knicks, especially when you get into late

59:49

game situations like this, it is very much

59:51

Jaylon Bronson time. And I'm okay with that

59:54

because Jaylon Bronson time is a very good

59:56

time. He scores a lovely time. He scores

59:58

a lot. He's an amazing, amazing. plays and

1:00:00

clutch players well, but you're gonna

1:00:02

have to get Michael Bridges going.

1:00:05

Oh, Jane and nobody's been playing

1:00:07

really well. I want that to

1:00:09

continue. Last year in the first

1:00:11

round against, against Philly, Josh Hart was

1:00:13

shooting out, he was shooting the lights

1:00:16

off that ball. I need Josh Hart

1:00:18

to get, to get back to that.

1:00:20

And then obviously, you want Kat to,

1:00:22

to feel good about himself going in.

1:00:24

So, and something that, I saw. Jamal

1:00:26

Crawford, I didn't watch the game directly

1:00:28

last night, but I saw Jamal Crawford

1:00:31

talking about it, was that the

1:00:33

Knicks looked very, very connected without

1:00:35

Jaylon Bronson. And he's like, if you

1:00:37

don't have your top player, this is how,

1:00:39

this is how you, like, this is the

1:00:41

blueprint to win games. I think that a

1:00:43

lot of times in tipped offense. It can

1:00:45

get very bogged down. If you can

1:00:47

come out of this situation, where the

1:00:50

ball starts moving a little bit more,

1:00:52

and then you insert Jane and Bronson

1:00:54

into it, and now your offense is

1:00:56

back to no more an offense in

1:00:58

the league, that would be best

1:01:00

case scenario. Yeah, so they don't

1:01:02

have a terribly difficult stretch coming

1:01:05

up, which is nice. They obviously

1:01:07

just beat the kings yesterday, hung a

1:01:09

133 points on the king, shit-ass

1:01:11

defense. They play the trailblazers,

1:01:13

then Mavericks. That's like five straight

1:01:15

very wonderful games. This is time this

1:01:17

is this is our time to To go

1:01:20

ahead and prove that we are the three

1:01:22

seed in the Eastern Conference because we've

1:01:24

already shown This game right here

1:01:26

against the Lakers and especially after

1:01:28

Jaylin got hurt it killed me It

1:01:30

killed me because I just needed one

1:01:33

win against one of like the top

1:01:35

opponents in either conference and it didn't

1:01:37

happen. You know my favorite thing is

1:01:40

that Nick's fans of coping with obviously

1:01:42

people keep tweeting that they're oh and

1:01:44

nine against the top two seeds in both

1:01:46

conferences and that includes the Lakers being the

1:01:49

two seed. Nix fans are like, this is

1:01:51

such a bullshit stack. If you put the

1:01:53

neck and set two we beat them twice.

1:01:55

I'm like, okay, congrat, you're two and nine

1:01:57

against the top four teams. Do you feel

1:01:59

better about yourself? It's still not great.

1:02:01

It's a little bit better. It's

1:02:03

a little bit better. It's a

1:02:06

fraudulent stat. Okay, it's still bad.

1:02:08

Just slightly less bad. It's still

1:02:10

fucking ass. No, it is really

1:02:13

damning, especially because in a lot of

1:02:15

those games, the Knicks have had opportunities

1:02:17

to win. Yeah. like in obviously in

1:02:19

this game like he goes in overtime

1:02:21

we've had games against the cab that

1:02:23

have been really close uh we've had

1:02:25

moments where we were very like in

1:02:27

i think in the first oklahoma city

1:02:29

game we were up in the fourth

1:02:31

quarter with the big league we squander

1:02:34

that so it's not that they can't

1:02:36

fully compete the only team that they

1:02:38

100% cannot compete with is the Boston

1:02:40

Celtics they they step onto that court

1:02:42

and they basically spot the Celtics 12

1:02:44

points and then you go from there

1:02:46

everybody else the mix can play with They

1:02:48

just they just have not been able

1:02:50

to find the ways to win to

1:02:52

win those games And so is

1:02:54

it a bad stat? Absolutely is it

1:02:56

maybe slightly overblown maybe by

1:02:59

like point five percent But

1:03:01

it's something that you you do have

1:03:03

to watch for but if Jaylin doesn't

1:03:06

miss Too too much time it should be

1:03:08

okay. We're talking a lot about

1:03:10

shit. That doesn't matter. Let's

1:03:12

talk about some real harding

1:03:14

news that affects the media

1:03:16

landscape Jason Tatum doesn't like

1:03:18

the nickname the anomaly. Nobody likes,

1:03:20

he said his friends call him

1:03:23

Taco, which he prefers. You know,

1:03:25

Taco. And he likes Big Deuce,

1:03:27

which nobody's ever gonna fucking say.

1:03:29

Big Deuce. Sounds a little bit nasty.

1:03:32

If he has a bad game,

1:03:34

they're gonna call him Big Deuce.

1:03:36

You kind of know where that's

1:03:38

gonna go. I'm actually surprised that

1:03:40

he said Taco, because the last

1:03:42

thing that I would think that he would

1:03:44

want is for. people who don't know him

1:03:46

to start addressing him like the people who do

1:03:48

know him yeah i was like i was just would

1:03:50

have never given you guys that information do you think

1:03:52

that's what cade man with the milliella thing that he

1:03:55

hated do you think he was like don't put it

1:03:57

out there remember did you see that clip of

1:03:59

milliella yeah a clip where they were doing

1:04:01

a post-game conference where after a win cave

1:04:03

is talking reporter and Tim Hardway Jr. walked

1:04:05

up and called him mellow yellow and then

1:04:07

the person was like is that your nickname?

1:04:09

It's like no no we're not going to

1:04:12

do that everywhere I don't know I wish

1:04:14

you didn't even say that. He hate that

1:04:16

nickname or something. I don't know if everyone

1:04:18

was like why does he hate that so

1:04:20

much? Wow. Yeah, that's crazy. That's even funny

1:04:22

now, I'm thinking about it, because he was

1:04:24

like, I wish he didn't even say that

1:04:27

on TV. Of course, all Twitter ran through

1:04:29

immediately and kept on him at. Oh, man.

1:04:31

That's hilarious. Now they're not going to call

1:04:33

this man yellow. That is crazy. Wow. Oh,

1:04:35

I got a daughter better to know that

1:04:37

is crazy. It just saddened me. I'm just

1:04:39

like, oh, holy shit. And it makes total

1:04:41

sense why Tim Hardaway would call him. Yeah,

1:04:44

that's crazy. Yeah, it's hate him hasty anomaly,

1:04:46

and I feel like, I don't know, we

1:04:48

got to like, what doesn't matter? We don't

1:04:50

put this flag and a half mass. We're,

1:04:52

we're too far into, into the nickname game

1:04:54

game now. Everybody has a nickname like that,

1:04:56

and it's because of, and it's because of,

1:04:59

It's because of him, he really could have

1:05:01

embraced something. He could have been, he could

1:05:03

have embraced the movement. And he just didn't,

1:05:05

he didn't want to be the face. And

1:05:07

so now history won't remember him in that

1:05:09

way. And that's a shame. So only way

1:05:11

history would have remembered you, Tatum, it's tough.

1:05:13

I think they'll remember the finals rings, but

1:05:16

you think so? They might have remembered the

1:05:18

anomaly more. At this time, at this point

1:05:20

of the NBA. Okay, fair enough. What does

1:05:22

that even mean? People, people, he's calling it,

1:05:24

he's calling it, he's recording, okay, he's recording.

1:05:26

I just think of that, that video where

1:05:28

she's like, that's what they're talking about, that's

1:05:31

what they're talking about, that's what they're talking

1:05:33

about, exactly, got to. I don't know, is

1:05:35

Kelsey Plumb as good

1:05:37

as Jason Tatum. as She's

1:05:39

good Tatum's better. Yeah.

1:05:41

Okay. I don't know

1:05:43

Yeah, okay, I she like

1:05:45

a top five player good.

1:05:48

How like, is think like a top

1:05:50

she fallen off in

1:05:52

at one point? But

1:05:54

now she's not five, I

1:05:56

she never been yeah

1:05:58

I think far. Has she I

1:06:00

don't know off? my she

1:06:03

at one knowledge is limited.

1:06:05

Yeah not or has being

1:06:07

said been? Yeah, I the stream.

1:06:09

it's some, it's closer to that. No. Okay.

1:06:11

Now's the end of the three. Oh, shout

1:06:13

out to Kevin Gould, keep it coming in.

1:06:15

Last second is a out to

1:06:17

man's for coming in He

1:06:20

said, even if Tatum for some reason

1:06:22

said the Tatum for some

1:06:24

reason isn't the top

1:06:26

tier for you guys

1:06:28

either the absolutely either the

1:06:30

best best best player

1:06:32

to build around Better to build

1:06:35

around than Janice or Lucca. All right, man.

1:06:37

Top right, man top of

1:06:39

the day. Either Either way know

1:06:41

you should all y

1:06:43

'all coming out. We'll see y

1:06:45

'all later this week

1:06:47

for this week's episode for

1:06:49

this week for be a

1:06:52

fun one