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This is the Dinesh D'Souza

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and I are ready for our

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weekend roundup and I thought we'd

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begin with kind of the

1:01

funny story, which is that

1:03

because this is a podcast

1:05

and we're in a studio,

1:08

typically at the beginning of

1:10

the podcast, Debbie does very

1:12

light makeup on me. Now,

1:14

it's makeup mainly just to

1:16

remove a shine, but

1:18

you had a pretty funny experience

1:20

when you went to buy this

1:23

makeup. Can

1:25

you tell about? Yeah.

1:27

So, you know, I

1:29

got it at CVS and

1:31

it's basically just a powder,

1:33

but it's dark, you know,

1:36

dark for dark skin, right?

1:38

Well, my skin is not

1:40

dark, obviously. So I go

1:42

to the counter and the

1:44

guy, he goes, Oh, man,

1:46

this is not your shade.

1:48

I go, Oh,

1:51

I know it's for my husband. And

1:56

he just looked at

1:58

me like it just like he couldn't

2:00

believe I said that. Well

2:02

this happened about it I guess

2:05

about a year ago. Yeah. And

2:07

I say this because you told

2:09

me yesterday I guess it was

2:11

that I'm running out. Yes. And

2:13

you're like I'm a little

2:15

bit hesitant to go and

2:18

replenish it because of what happened

2:20

last time. I may have to

2:22

do the Amazon. Do not lie?

2:24

Avoid the embarrassment. Yeah. Now honey

2:27

you have a big day.

2:29

Mm-hmm. 59. Yeah, I only say that

2:31

because you are not bashful.

2:33

People are going to be like,

2:36

oh, Denise, you should never say

2:38

a woman's age, you know, that's

2:40

terrible. But you know, I've never

2:43

been, it's never bothered me,

2:45

except when I was 23

2:47

years old, and I was working

2:50

for Liberty Military Sales,

2:52

a company that has

2:54

since... Vahn under. It

2:56

went under actually back

2:58

in the early early

3:00

90s. But I kind

3:02

of became in charge

3:04

of the customer service

3:07

department for all the stores.

3:09

And I was 23. And

3:11

I had to sit there with

3:13

all these old men who,

3:15

you know, were extremely, I

3:17

guess, at the time. Kind

3:19

of chauvinistic God is sending

3:22

and everything and I was very young

3:24

and I looked I mean I was

3:26

23 and I look like I was

3:28

about 14 or 15 years old I

3:31

tried really hard to put on the

3:33

makeup You know I wanted to look

3:35

really old and very mature and I

3:37

don't think it worked So that was

3:39

the only time I ever really was

3:42

concerned about my age, but you know

3:44

as I get older of course my

3:46

kids just and Julian They're, you know,

3:48

I mean, Justin's gonna be 30 this

3:50

year, Juliana, 25. Yeah. They remind me

3:53

how old I am all the time.

3:55

So, well, I find with a lot

3:57

of things you have, it's a bit

3:59

of a. trade-off. I had pretty oily

4:01

skin when I was in my teenage

4:03

years and as a teenager you you

4:06

hate that. You don't you know you

4:08

don't want to have that kind of

4:10

oily skin. In fact it's a little

4:12

more susceptible to getting pimples, getting zits,

4:14

that kind of stuff. But of course

4:16

that oily skin helps you later in

4:19

life because you don't you don't get

4:21

as many wrinkles. It's not like we

4:23

don't have any but we have any

4:25

but we have some. The other thing

4:27

I think is that when you are

4:29

young And you look really young. You

4:31

don't like it. No. Because you feel

4:34

like, you know, I'm in the 11th

4:36

grade, I look like I'm an 8th

4:38

grader. Yeah. You know, and you said

4:40

when you taught school. Oh, yeah. And

4:42

I taught high school when I was

4:44

32. I look like I was in

4:47

high school. So I would get asked

4:49

for my hall pass. And I was

4:51

like, no, I'm a teacher, really. But

4:53

you know. I was only like 14

4:55

years older than the rest of the

4:57

kids and so you know it was

4:59

it was a little you know yeah

5:02

but now you know I love I

5:04

love it when people tell me I

5:06

don't look 59 but I'm like oh

5:08

I think you're just saying that because

5:10

every time I look in the mirror

5:12

I see it well we we we

5:15

have a little bit of a double-edged

5:17

sword because I think what happens is

5:19

sometimes when we go to events or

5:21

we go to things people will say

5:23

to us something like You look a

5:25

lot better in person than you do

5:28

on the podcast. Which is a double-edged

5:30

comet, because if you take a, well,

5:32

I look horrible at the podcast, you

5:34

know. But the thing about it is

5:36

if they said the opposite, you'd be

5:38

offended the other way. So like you

5:40

can't, you know, you can't, you know,

5:43

just, I don't like, I don't, I

5:45

don't know. Anyway, let's talk also about,

5:47

since we're talking family. It looks like

5:49

Brandon Gil is hitting the ground running

5:51

and I say this because just this

5:53

week I mean the guy is barely

5:56

been sworn into office we were there

5:58

last weekend for his swearing in He's

6:00

one of the first congressmen out with

6:02

a bill and his bill is a

6:04

Consolidation of Trump's remain in

6:07

Mexico policy in other words if

6:09

you're applying for asylum You don't

6:11

get to be released in this

6:13

country and hang around for 18

6:15

months waiting for your court date

6:17

remain in Mexico You stay on the other

6:19

side of the fence. That's right when you

6:21

have your court date you show up I mean

6:23

it's just common sense. I'm sure every other

6:25

country in the world... But you know the

6:28

Mexican president doesn't like it because she's like

6:30

well these people aren't all Mexican. I don't

6:32

want him to remain here because it's... But

6:34

why let him in the country in the

6:36

first... Remember they're coming into the country from the

6:38

other side? Yeah I know. So it's your fault if

6:40

you let them in. It's kind of like someone

6:42

goes through Bangladesh to come to India. The

6:44

Indians aren't going to say, you

6:47

know, well, I guess you don't

6:49

belong in Bangladesh either, no.

6:51

Bangladesh is the country. No,

6:53

I know, but I say

6:55

Bangladesh. Bangladesh. I guess I'm,

6:57

I guess, but remember, this is

6:59

sort of like, this is how

7:01

you pronounce Spanish names. You

7:03

pronounce them the Spanish way,

7:05

right? I'm doing kind of the same

7:08

thing. You know, I guess like Obama,

7:10

I'll say Pakistan. Back East

7:12

on Pakistan. So, but back

7:14

to Brandon, I think this guy

7:16

is, well, I mean, he cares

7:18

about a lot of issues and

7:20

he's on a number of really

7:22

good committees. He's on the

7:24

oversight committee, he's on the

7:27

budget committee, I forget the

7:29

third committee, he's on, it's

7:31

judiciary? Judiciary? Yeah, which he's

7:33

very excited because Jim Jordan

7:35

is the chairman of that

7:38

committee, but... The issue that

7:40

I think is his primary

7:42

issue is the border. So I think

7:44

he's very eager to come out the gate strong

7:46

with a bill on this. And I certainly

7:49

hope it makes, I think that's the

7:51

kind of bill that will get

7:53

unanimous Republican support. I mean,

7:55

if there's one issue that Republicans

7:57

are united on, it's the board.

7:59

It's sealed the border. Yeah, so

8:02

what do you think about the

8:04

future of the Dems? Well, the

8:06

Democratic Party, I think, is in

8:08

disarray right now. And it's, to

8:10

be honest, not something we have

8:13

seen in a long time. the

8:15

well if I mean no I

8:17

mean we have seen it before

8:19

but but I would say that

8:21

the last time we really saw

8:23

it was Jimmy Carter well yeah

8:26

I was when Jimmy Carter lost

8:28

the Democrats were beside themselves they

8:30

had messed up on the foreign

8:32

policy front on the domestic front

8:34

Carter was seen as a buffoon

8:36

I mean think about it we've

8:39

had all these democratic conventions have

8:41

you ever seen Carter show up

8:43

in any of them I don't

8:45

think he certainly never spoken in

8:47

any of them I don't remember

8:49

Carter speaking at a scene because

8:52

he... You think that the Democrats

8:54

threw him under the bus? Oh

8:56

yeah, absolutely. In other words, he

8:58

disgraced the party to such a

9:00

degree, they could not afford to

9:03

bring him out to speak. He

9:05

was so unpopular. He was so

9:07

unpopular. I mean, he's unpopular 30

9:09

years later. So think about it.

9:11

After Carter passes away... Almost everything

9:13

that they say about him has

9:16

nothing to do with his presidency.

9:18

They'll say things like, well, he

9:20

was a very decent man and

9:22

he built homes for people with

9:24

habitat for humanity. And all of

9:26

that's true, but his presidency was

9:29

unmitigated. So the Democrats took, and

9:31

not only that, but not only

9:33

did they have this kind of

9:35

Carter millstone around their neck, they

9:37

did not know how to cope

9:39

with Reagan. and as a Reagan

9:42

just outplayed them, he outwitted them.

9:44

And you see the same bewilderment

9:46

now. I think it's for this

9:48

reason. In 2016, even though Trump

9:50

was elected, it was almost like

9:53

a surprise election, and from the

9:55

beginning, the Democrats had Trump like

9:57

up against the wall, and the

9:59

Democrats were pushed. and they dominated

10:01

the agenda during his

10:03

presidency. I mean you and I would

10:05

talk about how we are supposed to

10:08

be in control, but they are really

10:10

in charge. They always are. They

10:12

always are. But I think this

10:14

time they're not in charge and they

10:16

kind of know it. In fact, they

10:18

are, if you look at issue after

10:21

issue after issue, they're not setting

10:23

the agenda anymore. It's

10:25

really quite striking to see. The

10:27

debates are now being held within the

10:30

right. The recent debate, for example,

10:32

about H1B visas was by and

10:34

large the tech libertarian camp. So

10:36

they watch us self-destruct, basically. Well,

10:38

no, they watch us, but see,

10:40

there's no self-destruction happening. Yeah. They

10:43

watch us there. They'll say things

10:45

like, well, there seems to be

10:47

a civil war, growing among the

10:49

Republicans, but it's no civil war. Because

10:51

think of it. Elon Musk supposedly

10:53

had a big strike against

10:55

him because he came out

10:57

on one side of H1B.

10:59

Five minutes later, Elon Musk

11:02

is talking about Pakistani immigrants

11:04

in Britain who are raping

11:06

all these rich girls. So

11:08

it's not like Elon Musk

11:10

does not understand the risks

11:13

and dangers of this

11:15

kind of unmitigated. There's

11:17

consequences. And he understands them as

11:19

well as the magga right does.

11:21

Yeah. It's interesting that the left

11:23

doesn't in any country. I don't

11:25

get it. No, they have made this.

11:28

You know, it was not obvious

11:30

that they would go in this

11:32

direction because it's very possible to

11:35

have multiculturalism within your own country

11:37

elevate the minorities and the LGBTQ,

11:39

but not have an open border.

11:42

But they pushed DEAI and

11:44

identity politics to its

11:46

logical conclusion, which is if we hate

11:48

America enough, we not only

11:51

want to capsize, take down

11:53

the monuments, elevate the minorities

11:55

and depreciate the majorities, but

11:58

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to increase. Debbie

14:27

and I are doing our Friday

14:29

round up and when we left

14:32

off we were talking about the

14:34

border the The way that the

14:37

Democrats have gone about Their business

14:39

in the last four years almost

14:41

as if we didn't exist almost

14:44

as if there was no Republican

14:46

Party and almost as if there

14:48

was no need for them to

14:51

put any kind of check on

14:53

their own policies Just go all

14:55

our print as much money as

14:58

you want to that's the that's

15:00

the Fed Open the border as

15:02

much as you want to send

15:05

money to Iran if you want

15:07

to Ukraine. Send money to Ukraine.

15:10

I mean the... Shut down oil

15:12

wells. In the wake of the

15:14

fires, the amount of money that

15:17

they're sending now to Ukraine, you

15:19

know, every time there's a domestic

15:21

disaster, there was of course the

15:24

North Carolina, now of course the

15:26

fires in California. But the open

15:28

contempt of the Democrat officials for

15:31

people, I still find it a

15:33

little bit shocking. And this is

15:36

actually interesting because, as you know,

15:38

I get the North Carolina people

15:40

were not friendly to the administration,

15:43

so they were very aggressive, and

15:45

when it came to like even

15:47

helping them, they didn't want to

15:50

do it, they ignored them, don't

15:52

help them if they have a

15:54

sign, you know, that kind of

15:57

thing. But California, I mean, these

15:59

LA homes, these... actors, these people

16:02

that live in LA, California. And

16:04

a lot of middle class people

16:06

too. Yeah, they're lefties. I

16:08

mean, you know, they elected

16:10

a Marxist mayor. And so

16:12

it's interesting that the Dems

16:15

in charge are still kind

16:17

of ignoring them too. I

16:19

think it has to be that

16:21

certainly in California, they

16:23

have become accustomed to a one-party

16:26

state. and because they're a one-party

16:29

state there's no accountability. They

16:31

make a proposal in fact one

16:33

wacky commissioner makes a proposal another

16:35

wacky commissioner makes a more extreme

16:38

proposal and by and large the

16:40

more extreme proposal goes through because

16:42

there's no real resistance coming from

16:45

anywhere. And so I think these

16:47

Democratic leaders basically believe that once

16:49

they win the primary they've won

16:51

the election and it's essentially a time

16:53

to just... take advantage of their position

16:55

of power. That's why I think Karen

16:58

Bass traips us off to, she thinks

17:00

of herself as a foreign dignitary. She's

17:02

probably treated as a foreign dignitary over

17:05

there. I mean if you show up

17:07

in a country sufficiently obscure, you know,

17:09

I mean you could be our gardener

17:12

and be treated as a foreign dignitary.

17:14

All you have to say is you're

17:16

some sort of elected official somewhere. So,

17:18

but all of this I think is

17:21

just goes to show that... These guys

17:23

have mastered the rhetoric of war

17:26

for the people, war for

17:28

democracy, war for the little

17:30

guy, war for the minorities.

17:32

You don't care about any

17:35

of these people at all. Whether

17:37

rich or poor. Right, right.

17:39

Especially rich, actually. Yeah,

17:41

to them, this is all a way

17:44

of carving out the benefits of

17:46

government while they are in

17:48

there. So... That's what I

17:50

think the reason they love

17:52

D.E.I. is D.I. is a

17:54

career path. So they play

17:56

the identity politics game to get

17:59

positions. And then when they

18:01

get positions, they look into the

18:03

trough. This is the swamp. But

18:06

this mayor, Karen, she's not elected

18:08

because of D.I. She's elected because

18:11

of dumb voters. Right? For the

18:13

most part, yes. I mean, you

18:15

cannot call an election by itself

18:18

DEAI, because DEA has to do

18:20

with setting aside some relatively objective

18:22

criteria of merit and saying, I'll

18:25

give it to you because of

18:27

the color of your skin or

18:30

because you're gay or your trans

18:32

or whatever. Now, the way the

18:34

DEA plays into elections is if

18:37

you're able to play the race

18:39

card or the women card. What

18:41

about Trudeau's twin brother? Um, you

18:44

know, his twin brother, the California

18:46

Newsome. Oh, News, News, News, News,

18:49

News, News, I think he looks

18:51

like Trudeau. He just reminds me

18:53

of him. I don't know. I

18:56

don't know what it is. Well,

18:58

he's got the same mannerisms. But

19:00

he's not, but I mean, he's

19:03

not of color. And he won,

19:05

right? So again, Dom voters. Well,

19:08

exactly. He's the classic example. As

19:10

Trudeau, as Trudeauo is of the...

19:12

pandering, white, progressive leftist. He's the

19:15

embodiment of that. But see, a

19:17

lot of people who are like

19:19

that will vote based on identity

19:22

politics. And, you know, when Diane

19:24

Feinstein stepped down, Newsom was very

19:26

determined to have a black woman

19:29

take her place. So in California,

19:31

they're very explicit about playing this

19:34

identity politics card. Now, talking about

19:36

the border. and also talking about,

19:38

you know, we often talk about

19:41

the vulnerability of the border to

19:43

terrorism. But we're seeing this new

19:45

phenomenon in the country represented by

19:48

what happened in New Orleans, the

19:50

homegrown terrorist. But I have to

19:53

tell you, people have forgotten about

19:55

these Islamic radicals and they have

19:57

not gone away. We have for...

20:00

It seemed to have forgotten about

20:02

9-11. We've forgotten about these, you

20:04

know, Islamists, jihadists, but they're around,

20:07

and they're not going away. Well,

20:09

not only that, but you can

20:11

fairly assume that in an open

20:13

border of the last four years,

20:16

with eight million plus people coming

20:18

in... But honey, you don't even need

20:20

an open border. We have home

20:22

grown here in America that actually

20:25

were born in America that are

20:27

Islamic terrorists. Right we don't have

20:29

to import them. They don't have

20:31

to come in through the border

20:33

now granted some have and they've admitted

20:36

admitted to that But like this dude

20:38

that got you know that did the

20:40

the deed in New Orleans He was

20:43

born and raised in Houston. I think

20:45

he was born in Beaumont right

20:47

outside of Houston. So he said he

20:49

didn't have an American he obviously

20:51

had an American accent and this

20:54

is why I cringe at the

20:56

thought of an Islamic terrorist in

20:58

the making that wants to be

21:00

a pilot. Remember I talk to

21:03

you about this. Yeah, this is

21:05

interesting because we take a lot of

21:07

flights and of course if you you'll

21:09

sometimes see as you stand up to

21:11

go to the bathroom that the

21:13

stewardess interposes herself because

21:16

the pilot is going so in

21:18

other words they create a blockade.

21:20

They create a barrier between

21:22

the passengers. and the pilots

21:24

and the cockpit as if to

21:26

say that the cockpit has to

21:29

be kept secure and what

21:31

you're saying is that wait a

21:33

minute it is not out of the

21:35

question that we will get terrorists

21:37

in the cockpit I think it

21:40

within the next five to ten

21:42

years it would not shock me

21:44

in the least if we had

21:47

a jihadist pilot kill his whole

21:49

you know airplane because he

21:51

wants to commit You know,

21:53

he wants to... A La Huakar.

21:55

Exactly. Well, the thing

21:57

about it is we have to...

21:59

that we've watched some of these

22:02

episodes that have tracked previous airplane

22:04

disasters. It is not out of

22:07

the question there have been multiple

22:09

cases of suicidal pilots. Now we're

22:11

not saying jihadists, we're saying pilots

22:14

who for whatever reason decided to

22:16

take the plane down and the

22:18

way they did it is they

22:21

tell the co-pilot or vice versa.

22:23

Hey, go get me some coffee.

22:25

Or go to the, or when

22:28

he goes to the bathroom. Oh,

22:30

he goes to the bathroom, locks

22:32

the door. You lock the cockpit

22:35

door and then there's just no,

22:37

there's no easy way to get

22:40

in. You can keep banging on

22:42

the door, but the pilot just

22:44

sits at his spot, put in

22:47

text, sometimes puts on his oxygen

22:49

mask. To everyone's horror. takes the

22:51

plane into the ground, into the

22:54

ocean or into a mountain. I

22:56

mean, it's a very... I mean,

22:58

look, like I said, because of

23:01

DEA, and because everyone's so hell-bent

23:03

on not discriminating against Muslims, I

23:05

think that this is a very

23:08

real threat. Because think about it.

23:10

A Muslim young man, you know,

23:13

he's law-abiding. everything else but he

23:15

wants to be a pilot and

23:17

he's born in Indiana he's born

23:20

yeah he's he's an American yeah

23:22

he went do you really think

23:24

American Airlines United Airlines is gonna

23:27

say no because just in case

23:29

you become a jihadist we can't

23:31

take that risk they're never going

23:34

to say that I mean look

23:36

at the example of great Britain

23:38

you had Pakistani gangs raping these

23:41

young girls. In many cases, the

23:43

young girls were lined up for

23:46

the whole family or for several

23:48

gang members to rape them. And

23:50

when the girls or their parents

23:53

went to complain, the parents are

23:55

told, you're a racist, you might

23:57

need to have anti-racism training. So

24:00

think of how sickle these

24:02

Brits are, that in order

24:04

to avoid a reputation for

24:07

insensitivity or racism, they're

24:09

actually allowing the rape of

24:11

young girls. So it shows

24:13

you that the pathology of

24:16

white progressivism. is a very advanced

24:18

disease. It is. And we know that

24:20

it's present in our country as well.

24:23

And it's going to get some people

24:25

killed. I'm telling you right now, I

24:27

have that just, you know, it's almost

24:29

like every time we get on an

24:31

airplane, I look at the pilots because I

24:33

just, I need to know what they

24:35

are. Well, I mean, the whole infrastructure

24:38

or protection. is based upon the

24:40

idea that the problem is not

24:42

with the pilots. Yeah. The whole

24:44

infrastructure of protection is that, and

24:46

by the way, it's also that it's not

24:48

with the illegals, right? Because the illegals walk

24:50

through the airport, you've seen them, I've

24:52

seen them, it's like no ID, no

24:55

problem, they take a little photo there.

24:57

It's like really after all my life.

24:59

Whereas for the rest of us, so in other

25:01

words, the way they're looking at it, the

25:03

threat is the passengers, right. But

25:05

it's not the pilot and it's

25:07

not the illegals. Or even the

25:09

people that put the luggage in

25:12

the airplane. I mean those guys,

25:14

they can have a bomb or

25:16

something and put it in, slip

25:18

it into somebody's luggage. And

25:20

there you go. And then

25:22

lately, you know, these two people

25:24

that were dead in the cargo? In

25:26

the landing gear? What's, what the heck?

25:28

I mean, well, you use you call

25:30

them stowaways, but I said to you,

25:32

there is no way that these guys thought,

25:35

hey, I want to get a free flight. I

25:37

think I'll hang on to the landing gear. But

25:39

why else would they do? I think they

25:41

were stowaways, but I also think they were

25:43

dumb stoways. You mean there was stowies

25:45

inside the plane and when the landing

25:48

gear was deployed, they were like, oh,

25:50

hold on, what's happening to me? I'm

25:52

being ejectedjected outside the plane. Sooo

25:54

plan aborted. I don't know, but

25:56

that just tells you quality control

25:58

and then the lay. about the

26:00

United Airlines and the American

26:02

Airlines clipping each other on

26:05

the runway? I mean, guys,

26:07

this is crazy. I think

26:09

part of it, of course,

26:11

is DEA, but part of

26:13

it is also, I think

26:15

there has been a degradation

26:17

of quality standards in the

26:19

country generally. We see it

26:21

in customer service and in

26:23

all kinds of areas. This

26:26

is just a culture that

26:28

tolerates a higher degree of

26:30

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28:49

a new day or a new

28:51

era at Facebook, at

28:54

least according to... Mark

28:56

Zuckerberg. Now we have

28:58

had just through the

29:00

podcast quite a bit of

29:02

dealings with Facebook,

29:05

including some very

29:07

sort of near misses

29:09

or close shaves. I don't

29:11

really know what to call

29:14

it. And in some cases

29:16

absurd strikes that have been

29:19

put on us by Facebook.

29:21

often for things that are very innocuous.

29:23

I think at one point I talked

29:25

about Kyle Rittenhouse defending himself and they

29:27

got a strike. I got a strike

29:29

for quote it had to do with Facebook's

29:32

kind of dangerous individuals policy

29:34

as if I was somehow praising

29:36

or as if he was a dangerous

29:38

individual he had just been acquitted. This

29:41

is the point, but they claimed that

29:43

the policy had been put in place

29:45

before he was acquitted. And so they

29:47

appealed to this technicality when I tried

29:49

to say, hey listen, the guy's been

29:52

acquitted. They were like, well, yes, but

29:54

our policy went into effect beforehand. So

29:56

Facebook has just been an

29:58

absolutely disgraceful operation. but they

30:00

censor you so like like people

30:02

that are on your fan page

30:05

don't even see your post right

30:07

because they the algorithm makes it

30:09

to where just the same as

30:11

YouTube actually and so you know

30:13

it's it's one of those things

30:16

where you just don't you don't

30:18

get it I mean I I

30:20

well I think that I think

30:22

that Zuckaburg is trying to now

30:24

claim redemption right he's like the

30:27

he's like the the prostitute who

30:29

shows up in the and says

30:31

I'm a convert right I don't

30:33

want to be arrested I don't

30:35

want to be held responsible all

30:38

the things I did because I've

30:40

seen the light and and Zuckaburg

30:42

wants everybody to go okay welcome

30:44

Zuckaburg we're so relieved we're so

30:47

delighted to hear from you I

30:49

notice that's not the reaction people

30:51

are very angry they should be

30:53

and we are too yeah and

30:55

I think this guy deserves to

30:58

be punished for what he has

31:00

done over the past four years.

31:02

If he wants to redeem himself

31:04

beyond that, all to the better.

31:06

But that doesn't that doesn't delete

31:09

your accountability for what you already

31:11

did. I mean, think about all

31:13

those people that are, you know,

31:15

the term Facebook jail. Facebook jail tells

31:17

you so much, right? You know, everything

31:19

you need to know, right. And just

31:22

think about the, I mean, you have,

31:24

you have. Elderly women trying to communicate

31:26

with their friends about Trump and they

31:28

get banned. They get deplatform. They get

31:30

a one-year strike. I have a friend

31:32

who has had to multiple times get

31:35

different accounts because they shut him down.

31:37

You know who I'm talking about? Of

31:39

course. Well he posts the most hilarious

31:41

memes that make you laugh out loud.

31:43

They are hilarious. He's so funny. But

31:45

you know, okay, so he's out of

31:48

control, but the memes are funny. and

31:50

they're witty and people enjoy them and

31:52

I mean this is the whole point

31:54

of free speech right in other words

31:56

it is amazing hurting anybody no he's

31:58

just making us laugh Yeah, people don't

32:01

really understand what free speech

32:03

is. If something doesn't offend

32:05

you, then it never becomes a

32:07

question of tolerance. If free speech

32:09

means that you approve of things

32:11

that you already agree with, then

32:13

no tolerance is involved at all.

32:16

The whole point of free speech is

32:18

it protects stuff that you don't

32:20

agree with, and even stuff that

32:22

you may find very offensive. Yeah,

32:24

it protects debate. Right. So there

32:27

was something on X the

32:29

other day where this guy

32:31

goes, you know, those of

32:33

you who claim to be

32:35

against censorship, look at the,

32:37

there are people on Twitter,

32:39

on X, who are calling

32:42

women household objects. I was

32:44

like, this is like your

32:46

best example, so what, big

32:48

deal, whoopty do? I mean... the point

32:50

is you should be able to say

32:52

stuff like this you know you should

32:54

be and you should be able to

32:56

defend it there are some women though

32:59

that that want to be household objects

33:01

just saying look there are people who

33:03

will take offense all right well you

33:05

weigh in and explain why you're not

33:07

a household object explain what's

33:09

the difference between you and a

33:12

household object right yeah I guess I

33:14

guess but you know the thing about

33:16

it is If you don't like it,

33:18

then read something else. You know, block

33:20

the person that said it, move on.

33:22

This is the new mentality that

33:24

people have that they should

33:26

exercise control over what other

33:28

people think and say. Think about

33:31

this whole issue of pronouns, right?

33:33

Because if you want to go

33:35

around calling yourself stuff, you know,

33:37

I identify as Napoleon, I identify

33:40

as a toad, I mean, go

33:42

and do it. But if you claim...

33:44

I demand to be addressed as

33:47

Mr. Toad. That's going too far.

33:49

Because that is making a claim

33:51

on me and forcing me

33:54

to submit to your

33:56

wacky self-conception, which I don't

33:58

have to do. But what? What happens

34:00

is so quickly these people metamorphos

34:02

from being victims into bullies. They

34:04

start off with some claim of

34:06

victimization. I'm not sure they're ever

34:08

victims. I see them more as

34:10

always bullies. Well I think that

34:12

they, right, the victimization to them

34:14

is tactical. It is a form

34:16

of power. So. And I think

34:18

this was really a lesson that

34:21

was learned all the way going

34:23

back to the civil rights movement.

34:25

They started off with victimization. I'm

34:27

a minority. I'm oppressed. And of

34:29

course, in the case of blacks,

34:31

there was a lot of truth

34:33

to it. Going back to the

34:35

30s and 40s, they could point

34:37

to lynchings. The judicial system in

34:39

the Democratic South was very rigged

34:41

against them. They're quite right about

34:43

all that. So they tapped into

34:45

that victimization, but very soon they

34:47

realized that it could be deployed

34:49

as a weapon of a weapon

34:51

of power. and they have done

34:53

it relentlessly, done it relentlessly ever

34:55

since. What is your thought about,

34:57

do you think that if Zuckaburg

34:59

is sincere, if Facebook does lift

35:01

the curtain on the censorship, does

35:03

that bode well for YouTube and

35:05

Google? Google may be the worst

35:07

sensor. They say that Google is

35:09

the most totalitarian institution that has

35:11

ever existed. It needs to be

35:13

broken up. Well, how about blasted,

35:15

I guess you can't blast into

35:17

smithereens because you do need a

35:20

search engine. Yeah, no, you need

35:22

to, it's a monopoly that you

35:24

need to break up. And I

35:26

think once that happens, I think

35:28

their power will, will dissipate. Well,

35:30

one, well, that's just because of

35:32

the market and competition. When you

35:34

break something up, well, look at

35:36

when the, you know, you, you,

35:38

deregulate the airlines. And India used

35:40

to have a single airline, Air

35:42

India. If you have 17 airlines,

35:44

they're all going to compete with

35:46

each other. Yeah, they're going to

35:48

go after different markets. Yeah, and

35:50

so censorship becomes much more difficult

35:52

to carry out. Yeah, because of

35:54

the countervailing. Yeah, because if, let's

35:56

just say that Google stays, but

35:58

then you. have a lot of

36:00

others and Google is is just

36:02

super tyrannical and they censor everybody

36:04

well people aren't gonna want to

36:06

go on on Google right now

36:08

it's kind of like the only

36:10

thing there yeah censorship relies on

36:13

having a monopoly on censorship so

36:15

I think I think also YouTube

36:17

will start to see that the

36:19

same thing happened to them right

36:21

now YouTube is considerably better than

36:23

the other platforms in terms of

36:26

just the videos and and the

36:28

the chat rooms and all of

36:30

those things the lives a lot

36:32

of good educational content on

36:35

YouTube there's a lot

36:37

but I do think

36:39

that unfortunately they also

36:41

preyed upon conservatives canceling

36:43

conservatives oh even you

36:45

know even our channel

36:47

is restricted it's not

36:49

for whatever reason people

36:51

just don't even know

36:53

you're on. Well, I mean,

36:56

I'm 750,000 subscribers, that number

36:58

never moves, and I get

37:00

10,000 years roughly. But the funny

37:02

thing is that your other platforms

37:04

have increased in the last four

37:07

years a lot, but this one

37:09

just has not moved the

37:11

needle. Well, we do have to

37:14

give credit here to platforms like

37:16

Rumble and Social, because they... stood

37:18

in the gap when the censorship

37:21

was at its worst. Remember, Trump

37:23

was censored on most of these

37:25

platforms. I don't think they can

37:28

censor him now, do you? They

37:30

can try. They did actually censor him.

37:32

They censored him at the end of

37:34

his presidency. Yeah, so I think

37:36

they can. Whether people will stand

37:39

for it. That's another issue. Well, not

37:41

only that, but I think now Trump is

37:43

in a strong enough position that he won't

37:45

stand for it. In other words, in other

37:47

words, Trump has weapons at his disposal. Somehow

37:50

in 2020 he wasn't able to deploy them

37:52

in part because he didn't control his own

37:54

justice department. No, right. But here's a case

37:56

where, okay, you want to censor us? Okay,

37:59

we're going to... Yeah, we're gonna take

38:01

the censorship of the Supreme

38:03

Court. I do think that will happen.

38:05

I hope it does, but I think

38:07

it will actually. Yeah, I

38:10

interpret the pilgrimage that

38:12

Zuckaburg and Jeff Bezas.

38:14

and I think even the Google guy,

38:16

I'm not sure if it was Sundar

38:18

Pinchi or the other guy, in any

38:20

event they go to see Trump, I

38:22

think it is their way of saying

38:24

peace treaty. I think it's their way

38:26

of saying, okay, it's kind of like,

38:29

okay, I've got a small army at

38:31

Google, but you have a big army

38:33

called the US military, and so I'm

38:35

gonna submit to your superior power. It's

38:37

not a change of heart on their

38:39

part. These people are slime. I mean,

38:41

I mean, they're absolute snakes. you now

38:43

have maybe a snake smasher

38:46

who's coming into the into

38:48

the oval office and that

38:51

and life you know may not

38:53

be so good for the snakes.

38:55

I thought we would talk

38:57

in this segment about

38:59

the Carter, Jimmy Carter

39:02

service because there was

39:04

an interesting vignette

39:06

where Kamala Harris

39:08

is sitting in the front.

39:11

And Obama and Trump

39:13

are side by side in the

39:15

row behind her. She looks very

39:18

annoyed at the fact that

39:20

they are bantering with each

39:22

other, Obama and Trump.

39:24

And moreover, what's

39:27

significant about all this

39:29

is that it flashes your

39:31

mind back to all the

39:34

times that they said that

39:36

Trump is Hitler, you know,

39:39

Trump is... here to create

39:41

a fascist dictatorship. It's the

39:44

end of democracy. And if

39:46

you just watch Obama's manner,

39:48

it's clear he never for

39:51

a moment believed a word

39:53

of it. So this highlights

39:55

the supreme cynicism of

39:58

these people because. You

40:00

can't believe a word of what they

40:02

say. It's all a game to them.

40:04

It's like, okay, it's campaign time. This

40:06

is where I get to call you

40:08

a Nazi. And however, you know, we're

40:10

not really a Nazi. You're not really

40:12

a Nazi. And you know, and you

40:15

know that and I know that. But

40:17

maybe there's a bunch of stupid Democrats

40:19

out there who go, you know, he's

40:21

a Nazi. I can never vote for

40:23

that guy. I want to tell all

40:25

my friends not to vote for the

40:27

vote for the Nazi. that this is

40:30

okay because I have to say that

40:32

by Trump speaking cordially to Obama even

40:34

he is sort of endorsing this practice

40:36

and I say that because quite honestly

40:38

if somebody went around calling me a

40:40

Nazi I'm sitting next to them I

40:42

would not speak to them like I

40:44

wouldn't speak to Obama just because he's

40:47

Obama Yeah, you and I have talked

40:49

about the fact that even if we

40:51

had a free dinner with Obama, we

40:53

would not attend. No, no, no. Right,

40:55

I mean, it's kind of like... I

40:57

don't even think I would shake his

40:59

hand. Yeah, well, it's, I mean, a

41:01

part of me is intrigued, but you

41:04

also know, you also know, I mean,

41:06

it's kind of like vacation with Satan.

41:08

Right? Come on a vacation. All expenses

41:10

paid vacation would sing. It's like, I

41:12

don't really know if I want to

41:14

be around. Would you even be tempted?

41:16

No. I wouldn't be tempted. Okay. No,

41:18

no. I wouldn't be tempted because, I

41:21

mean, that's, that would be horrible. Exactly.

41:23

I mean, I, exactly. I wouldn't dream

41:25

of doing that. With Obama, it's almost

41:27

like I have a certain anthropological curiosity

41:29

about this man. I don't think he

41:31

would want to take you out to

41:33

dinner though. I think he hates you

41:35

that much. You know, interestingly when I

41:38

would speak on campuses, this is going

41:40

back a few years now. A lot

41:42

of times I'd say, well, you know,

41:44

Obama came after me after I did

41:46

that movie. And students would say to

41:48

me, look, what makes you think he

41:50

saw your dumb movie? What makes you

41:52

think is even motivated by that? What

41:55

makes you think he'll spend any time

41:57

worrying about you, Danesh? And I was

41:59

like, well... when 2016 was in

42:01

the theater, in 2000 theaters,

42:03

and it was, you know,

42:05

doing very well, every day

42:08

I was getting blasted on

42:10

a website called BarackObama.com.

42:12

So I go, gee, that's where

42:14

I get the idea that this

42:16

vindictive narcissist is not happy about

42:18

me and not happy about the film. He's

42:20

attacking me by name. I don't know about that

42:22

because I don't know who owned that website. He did.

42:25

Did he really? Of course he did. You know

42:27

why we know that is because once he came into

42:29

office, he took the website down. It was

42:31

his personal website. Oh, it was

42:33

his personal. Okay. But the reason

42:35

I knew he hated you was

42:37

after your conviction. Well,

42:39

no. When they went after you. him.

42:41

See, I think what these student leftists

42:44

were getting at is, no, your conviction must

42:46

have been because you're a hardened criminal.

42:48

It couldn't be because Obama is targeting you

42:50

because he doesn't have time to do

42:52

things like that. You know, he's just way

42:54

up here. But I was like, no,

42:56

the guy is extremely petty. And

42:58

I think what got him about

43:00

the film wasn't that I made a

43:02

critique of Obamacare. It was that

43:05

I went inside his world interviewing

43:07

his brother on there at his

43:09

family homestead. I'm dragging a goat

43:11

to be, you know, as the

43:13

price of the interview with his

43:15

grandmother. I mean, it made him

43:17

look whacked and hypocritical and deceitful.

43:19

A very bad person. A very

43:21

bad guy. I think he saw

43:24

that and he was like, I'm

43:26

going to make the guy who

43:28

does this pay. Yeah,

43:30

for sure. So, hey, so

43:32

I was, you remember, I told

43:34

you about the Biden admin

43:36

releases 11 Yemeni detainees Obama. Oh,

43:38

that's right. Yes. From

43:41

Guantanamo Bay. Suspected

43:44

Al Qaeda tides, these guys,

43:46

right? And I go, this

43:48

wreaks of Obama. Yeah, this

43:50

is actually not something that

43:52

even Biden would, we know that

43:54

Biden doesn't do a lot on his

43:57

own. Yeah. But there are certain things

43:59

that are more consistent. with the Biden way.

44:01

Like for example, you know, something

44:03

like, let's have a meeting and when

44:05

I leave there will be an empty

44:08

briefcase and I expect to find cash

44:10

in it. That's a Biden thing. Biden

44:12

would, Biden is. quite capable of

44:14

doing that. Now he didn't do

44:16

it exactly that way. He worked

44:19

through Hunter Biden and James Biden,

44:21

but that kind of corruption suits

44:23

him. But this kind of thing

44:25

has Obama's aroma coming right out

44:27

of it, you know. It stinks of

44:29

Obama. For sure. For sure. Remember, well,

44:31

he did it before. We

44:34

released the hardened Taliban leaders,

44:36

remember? And it was always covered

44:38

by some sort of... And then he

44:40

exchanged that guy. Oh, the disorder. Yeah,

44:43

of course. What was his name? I

44:45

forget his name. Oh, I'm trying to remember

44:47

now. The guy. Bird doll. Bird, bull

44:49

bird doll. Berg doll. Yeah, he exchanged

44:51

him for an alcata op. uh... guy

44:53

you know what he's changed him for

44:55

for five Taliban commanders yeah

44:57

yeah yeah a number of that went

44:59

on to do their yeah they went

45:02

right back into the fight and they're

45:04

probably in the Taliban government today or

45:06

their or their their associates yeah they

45:08

are so no this is this is very

45:10

reminiscent of something he would do but but

45:12

then the other thing that he did was

45:14

what did he do about the oil well

45:16

Biden is he's like he's like he's gone

45:18

nuts yeah he's like he's like he's

45:20

like he's like he's like I'm gonna

45:22

block drilling I'm going to open the

45:24

border. I'm going to take all this

45:27

environmental money and just give it away.

45:29

I'm going to send as much money

45:31

as I can to Ukraine. I think

45:33

their philosophy is not to leave a

45:35

single dollar unspent. Yeah. So what

45:37

they're doing is this is the

45:40

equivalent. They're alluding the White House

45:42

literally. Exactly. Remember how at the

45:44

end of the Clinton like... lifted

45:47

the paintings off the walls the

45:49

vases off the tables like looted the

45:51

White House right and the bushes came

45:53

in and they were like what happened

45:55

here yeah but this is the policy

45:57

equivalent of that yes it

45:59

is like let's take the budget blow

46:01

it you know let's grant as many

46:04

amnesties and pardons as we can but

46:06

as you know I don't think Biden

46:08

is actually like doing it himself? I

46:10

do think he's getting all these people

46:13

that actually held him up for the

46:15

four years that he was president because

46:17

you know, you know, the man, he

46:19

is senile or he's got dementia. He

46:22

can't make decisions. I agree with that,

46:24

but I do think that he was

46:26

in on this bargain from the beginning.

46:28

In other words, it wasn't that in

46:30

2020, Biden said, I don't know what's

46:33

going on. You know what, you guys

46:35

just tell me what to do and

46:37

say, I think Biden realized I've always

46:39

wanted to be president. I'm not going

46:42

to be able to make it on

46:44

my own. In fact, he was doing

46:46

terribly in the primary. That's right. So

46:48

he sat down with the Democratic kind

46:51

of bosses, almost like the old days

46:53

of smoky rooms, and they said to

46:55

him, this is how it's going to

46:57

have to be. You are not really

47:00

going to be the president, but you're

47:02

going to be the figurehead of the

47:04

presidency. So he was okay with that.

47:06

And he was okay with that. And

47:08

they probably also said, we know that

47:11

you've been running all kinds of rackets.

47:13

So, you know, we'll protect you. We'll

47:15

keep all that money in your pocket.

47:17

You'll have multiple homes. You'll have the

47:20

title of having been the president, the

47:22

president, but the real power. But what

47:24

about him telling people? Do you think

47:26

that's his idea? Well, that I think

47:29

is, that is truly the senility topic,

47:31

right? Because, because I think I've even

47:33

seen people from Mark Halprin on the

47:35

left to others say, you know, this

47:38

is Harry Enton, who's the poll guy

47:40

at CNN. He's, he even said, this

47:42

is manifestly untrue. And he went on

47:44

to show poll showing that Biden was

47:46

just losing decisively decisively. that Kamala Harris

47:49

at least made a race of it.

47:51

I mean she lost all

47:53

the swing states, which

47:55

is, which does

47:58

suggest a decisive Trump

48:00

victory, but I

48:02

think it would have

48:04

been even bigger

48:07

with Biden. Well, you

48:09

know, it just, it's funny. I'm like thinking,

48:11

is he the one saying that or is

48:13

it, you know, his, or is it Obama?

48:15

You know, because I, do you think Obama's

48:17

going to stick around? You think he's going

48:19

to continue to live near the White House? Well,

48:22

if you think about it, you know, I

48:25

don't know what he has in that

48:27

Kalorama House, he probably has all kinds of

48:29

equipment and big screens and stuff. And

48:31

now it's going to be like, maybe, maybe

48:33

that's what the conversation was

48:35

about him and Trump. Hey, hey,

48:38

I've got, I've got all

48:40

this high tech equipment, which is

48:42

directly connected to the Oval Office. What am

48:44

I going to do with it now? Maybe I can

48:46

sell it to you at a discount rate,

48:48

right? Because,

48:51

because obviously Trump is not going

48:53

to hear from Obama. Well, the

48:55

other possibility is Obama could make himself

48:57

the, the, you remember when we

49:00

were in London, we went to

49:02

the Winston Churchill underground hideout in

49:04

Bunker and World War. Maybe this

49:06

can be the bunker of the

49:08

resistance to Trump. So in other

49:11

words, all kinds of kooks, Rachel

49:13

Maddow, you know, Alex

49:15

Soros, all these

49:17

people can regularly convene

49:19

at Obama's Kalorama House.

49:21

They can all do all the

49:24

stuff. They do all the ideological

49:26

plotting. They can probably have a big

49:28

witch's cauldron going, you know, managed

49:30

by Hillary. She's the, she's the head

49:32

witch, you know, brewing the, the

49:34

great witches brew. They can all do

49:36

hexes on Trump at the end

49:38

of the day. That sounds like

49:41

a possibility. I

49:43

mean, I don't want to suggest it too

49:45

loudly because they don't give them any ideas. I was

49:47

going to say they all go, they all listen

49:49

and they go, wow, Dinesh, we rarely agree with

49:51

you. But in this case, you have a great

49:53

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