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these podcasts, about a try

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called the Merchant of... New

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York. The merchant of of New York.

1:26

It's a play, of course,

1:28

on the Merchant of Venice,

1:30

the except we're talking now

1:32

about except we're talking now is the

1:34

one merchant. This is the

1:37

vengeful judge, Puerto

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Rican by background, who

1:41

is planning to sentence

1:44

to sentence. Trump Donald

1:46

Trump. This is for is for

1:48

the new york hush money

1:50

case this is the

1:52

stormy daniels case this is

1:54

the This preposterous preposterous case where where

1:57

Trump is is

1:59

supposedly violated. campaign finance laws

2:01

by doing an NDA or non-disclosure

2:03

agreement with Stormy Daniels basically to

2:06

get rid of her nuisance attempt

2:08

to go after him. Now I

2:10

think even Democrats recognize that this

2:12

case is bogus. In fact both

2:15

the New York cases, the other

2:17

one spearheaded by Leticia James is

2:19

equally bogus, but Trump had to

2:21

put up a giant amount of

2:24

money, 125 million dollars, if I

2:26

recall, as a bond, and pending

2:28

his appeal of that case. So

2:30

it should be noted that while

2:33

the cases against Trump are dropping,

2:35

kind of like flies, not much

2:37

is happening with the Fanny Willis

2:40

case, that's almost pretty much done

2:42

for. The two Jacksmith cases are

2:44

in fact done for, in one

2:46

case, Judge Eileen Cannon shut down

2:49

the Florida case, the classified documents

2:51

case, but now that Trump is

2:53

coming in, the DOJ is going

2:55

to have a new boss, and

2:58

they're dropping the case in DC.

3:00

This is the so-called insurrection case,

3:02

if you will, and attempt to

3:04

interfere with the 2020 election case.

3:07

But the New York cases both

3:09

have been a strike against Trump,

3:11

in the one case, civil case,

3:14

this is the Leticia James, he

3:16

had to put up all this

3:18

money, I think he will prevail

3:20

on appeal, and I think he

3:23

will prevail on appeal in this

3:25

case also, the Merchant case, but

3:27

I think Merchant is making a

3:29

calculation here. He knows that he

3:32

can't really do anything to Trump

3:34

in the sense of he can't

3:36

jail him. If he were to

3:38

jail him, the Supreme Court would

3:41

probably intervene and vacate the verdict

3:43

because Trump has to assume the

3:45

office of the presidency. So there's

3:48

no... way that a

3:50

local judge in

3:52

New York can

3:54

interfere with the

3:57

outcome of a

3:59

democratic election. That's

4:01

out of the

4:03

question. He knows

4:06

that. that. Nor can he really

4:08

can he really impose any kind of

4:10

sentence that regulates Trump in any

4:12

way. to Imagine he were even to

4:14

give him community service. not going to do

4:16

not going to do any community service. He has

4:18

to devote his full attention to the

4:21

country. the country. Probation. You think Trump is gonna

4:23

subject himself to some probation officer who

4:25

drops by the White House and

4:27

asks Trump if there are any weapons

4:29

in the any weapons just, the it doesn't

4:31

make any sense. It's make any sense. It's

4:33

It's not gonna happen. going actually knows

4:35

all this. actually knows think what he wants

4:37

to do what he wants to hang the

4:39

to hang the... label of convicted felon

4:41

around Trump's neck. He wants to

4:43

do his best to make that

4:45

happen, even though though he only got

4:48

the felony conviction by telling the

4:50

jury the jury, listen, I know if he did. if don't

4:52

know if he did that. It doesn't

4:54

really matter. he Just figure out if he

4:56

did something. This is a judge who he did

4:58

the outcome from the beginning. outcome from

5:00

the remember that if somebody is

5:02

even found guilty is even found

5:05

but there is no sentence. sentence. then

5:07

the the conviction is incomplete.

5:09

In fact, they say in In fact, they

5:11

say in the legal system that

5:13

your conviction is not really secure all

5:15

appeals have been All appeals have been exhausted. that

5:17

if But the point is that if

5:19

for some reason, his let's just say his

5:21

other option was just to delay the

5:23

sentencing. Obviously his best option would be

5:25

to throw the case out, but he's

5:28

not gonna do that. he's So his

5:30

two choices were his two choices were sentenced Trump now

5:32

or punt. tell Trump basically back and

5:34

see me after you've served out

5:36

your term out I'll impose I'll on

5:38

you then. on And that does have

5:40

some political advantages for the Democrats.

5:42

It keeps a certain type of

5:44

tension certain type of over Trump over through

5:47

his second term. I But I

5:49

think Merchant is going for me try

5:51

me try to solidify this conviction. be

5:53

will be appealed, true that process

5:55

is going to run its course,

5:57

let me me try to. get him

5:59

the most I can right now.

6:02

now. Well, the the Trump people don't

6:04

want want it. have they have

6:06

appealed all the way directly directly

6:08

to the Court. Now this is

6:10

a little unorthodox. Normally,

6:13

when you you have a state case. you

6:15

have you have to appeal it

6:17

through the state process. So you

6:19

So you appeal from merchant to the court

6:21

of appeals. of appeals, apparently

6:23

a single judge turned down Trump's

6:25

appeal. You can appeal to

6:27

the full en banc as they call it, the

6:29

entire bank or panel of judges. and you have to

6:31

you have to go all the way up

6:34

to the state supreme And if you if there,

6:36

then you can go to the Supreme

6:38

Court. That's the normal. that's the normal

6:40

process i the Trump team is

6:42

thinking thinking don't have time for

6:44

all that nonsense time for all that just

6:46

jump over the heads of

6:48

the appellate of the appellate court the

6:50

state court. court Let's just

6:52

ask the US Supreme Court to

6:54

take action here. I do want do

6:57

want to note that none of these people are ruling

6:59

on the merits of whether or

7:01

not Trump is guilty, is this

7:03

is not the the of the

7:05

case. case. This is basically a

7:07

procedural motion to say. should

7:09

this judge this to be able

7:11

to impose sentence that this that

7:13

this man has just been

7:15

appointed or not appointed elected? elected

7:18

President of the United States. If

7:20

the Supreme Court were to

7:22

intervene, it would have to be

7:24

today. today. We know We know the Supreme

7:26

Court is taking this seriously. They've

7:28

asked the have asked the prosecution in the

7:30

case just to do a brief. a brief

7:32

stating its side of the matter that

7:34

Trump people have already filed their side of

7:36

it. filed So I think it's possible

7:38

that we'll get a Supreme Court ruling later in

7:40

the day. I don't want to venture to

7:42

guess what it's going to be. to

7:44

venture way think this

7:46

is be. Either way, I that's going

7:49

to disturb the the the Trump term

7:51

term from going under full speed

7:53

ahead. is This is just

7:55

the last law of a law

7:58

fair strategy that in general

8:00

has... produced very few results, but here's

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8:04

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10:47

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the devastation, the leveled

10:51

homes. homes the place just

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looks like it's been

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bombed. and the human

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suffering is huge. The

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be maybe the

11:08

worst fire devastation. in

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the I'm history. I'm not positive

11:13

if that's the case, but

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it certainly is in my lifetime.

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my lifetime And I lived in California. in from

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about the year the

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year 2000 to... about two

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thousand about so a good about

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of the early a good

11:29

this century part of

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the century nothing that unusual about

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nothing Fires That unusual

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about fires It's a lot

11:38

of in california is a

11:40

lot of california is and that

11:43

means that the timber and

11:45

that means that the timber gets

11:47

dry. that there's also the

11:49

case that there's not a whole bunch of

11:51

rain in Southern California which

11:53

is to say say San Diego,

11:55

that whole territory. that whole and

11:57

so And so I have.

12:00

have lived through a

12:02

number of these fires

12:04

I have even evacuated. evacuated

12:06

my more than one

12:08

occasion one account of

12:10

ambient fires. ambient fires. one

12:12

case, the fires were relatively

12:14

close. I couldn't see the

12:16

flames. I could see the flames,

12:18

although happily our neighborhood

12:21

was was spared. I

12:23

hear that this is all

12:25

due to climate change, change...

12:27

doesn't make any sense. There

12:29

is nothing. There is nothing that is

12:32

phenomenally, and by and

12:34

by I don't mean I don't

12:36

mean sometimes people use

12:38

the term phenomenally like it's

12:40

phenomenal like it's phenomenally here

12:42

refers to here actual experience

12:44

of things happening experience no

12:46

different. it's no different. Now,

12:49

how do do these fires get started? Well,

12:51

many many different ways. ways. Sometimes

12:54

they're started by by arson.

12:56

Sometimes are started by someone camping

12:58

in the woods. someone and I

13:00

don't believe that the source of

13:03

these fires has been that the

13:05

source No one knows how

13:07

it has been traced. No one

13:09

knows how it began. And

13:12

yet the real issue is

13:14

issue is not is

13:16

not the fire. This is not a

13:18

case where we should be angry with

13:20

mother nature. Here is case

13:22

where there is a massive a massive

13:25

failure. of preparation and

13:28

of and of

13:30

government response. Preparation on

13:32

on the part of

13:34

the California authorities, including

13:36

Governor Governor Newsom or as Trump

13:39

calls him, but also

13:41

the mayor of Los

13:43

Angeles, mayor of Los Angeles, Karen

13:46

Bass. has been on a

13:48

diplomatic a to

13:50

Ghana to Ghana. Now, you know,

13:52

when Ted know when Ted

13:54

Cruz went to Cancun. Karen was

13:56

like oh look at at Ted Cruz in

13:59

in Cancun Tex. is having problems with

14:01

the grid. She was mocking him.

14:03

Except here, you've got a tragedy,

14:05

far worse. And she is on

14:08

a diplomatic trip to Ghana. And

14:10

my question is, why does the

14:12

mayor of LA have to go

14:14

to Ghana? You're not the head

14:17

of state. What possible benefit can

14:19

you going to Ghana deliver for

14:21

the people of Los Angeles? Nothing.

14:23

You're doing it because you want

14:26

to be given some importance. You're

14:28

probably doing it because of your

14:30

African roots. You're probably doing it

14:32

because it's a free junket. And

14:35

this is Karen Bass. She is

14:37

a leftist. By the way, this

14:39

is a woman with deep Marxist

14:41

roots. And yet, you have to

14:44

say that she got heavy support

14:46

in all the areas that are

14:48

being burned down under her watch.

14:50

So there's an element here where

14:53

you get what you vote for.

14:55

If you want nine angry lesbians

14:57

to run the city council, that's

14:59

what you're going to get when

15:02

the fires erupt. Those are the

15:04

people who are going to be

15:06

fixing it. If you want a

15:08

fire department that is suffused with

15:11

DEAI, and there are plenty of

15:13

videos now that have come out

15:15

where the fire... department leaders are

15:17

talking about the fact that yes

15:20

you know where there's a problem

15:22

of racism we've got to we've

15:24

got to root out the racist

15:26

firemen and so as a result

15:29

when you look at the fire

15:31

department it looks like you know

15:33

three overweight women are the ones

15:35

running the LA fire department it

15:38

doesn't surprise me greatly that they're

15:40

not putting out a whole lot

15:42

of fires you've probably seen the

15:44

little video on social media where

15:46

you have a firefighter and he's

15:49

He's getting water into a woman's

15:51

handbag and then running over and

15:53

throwing it, just throwing water from

15:55

a woman's handbag onto the fire

15:58

with predictably no effect. So this...

16:00

This is utterly disgraceful, it's utterly utterly

16:02

embarrassing. even I don't even think it's

16:04

fair to compare it to third world

16:06

countries because third world countries do a

16:08

lot better. do a lot countries world

16:10

fire too have and they have

16:13

high and they they are

16:15

able to get water. So get

16:17

water. So kind of of habitual comparison

16:19

a it's a banana republic. In some ways,

16:21

this is even more shocking

16:23

than scene that you that you'd see

16:25

out of let's say a

16:27

fire that erupted in Addis

16:29

Ababa or in Mumbai The other

16:31

thing is that the mayor The other

16:33

thing is that the mayor has

16:36

been cutting the fire budget. She

16:38

the budget. million from the budget. By

16:40

the way, California lavishly funds

16:42

illegal immigrants, and probably this and probably

16:44

this was the reason for the

16:46

budget cuts to deflect the

16:48

money. the money. to the illegals. The illegals are a

16:51

are a big part of

16:53

the Democratic Party's constituency in California.

16:55

fact, I believe that I time,

16:57

over time, the illegals been the tipping force

16:59

in taking taking a state that was to

17:01

the middle. to the middle. Remember middle. used to

17:03

be to be Nixon country, Reagan country.

17:06

At the very least you'd call

17:08

it call it the old days. days. Now Now

17:10

it's solidly blue. Well how did

17:12

that happen? happen? How did California

17:14

become so solidly blue? blue? Well,

17:16

a big big answer to that is

17:18

all the newcomers who came in. in

17:20

and really turned the,

17:22

provided the the

17:25

in force in

17:27

making the Now, in it

17:29

is. movies, when you look at who

17:31

Hollywood movies. are of any when

17:34

you look at who the villains

17:36

are of any large disaster. the movie

17:38

I don't you remember the movie goes back

17:40

now several which goes back now

17:42

several decades but That was about a water

17:44

scandal. And again, the

17:46

villains are villains are greedy

17:49

corporations and greedy put profits profits

17:51

over people. This is

17:53

the left and this this is

17:55

the standard left -wing plot.

17:57

plot. Very rarely in Hollywood -

18:00

are the villains the vicious and

18:02

callous bureaucrats but that is who

18:04

the villains are here this is

18:06

not a problem of greedy CEOs

18:08

the there is an insurance component

18:10

to this apparently a number of

18:12

these homes that are being burned

18:14

to the ground don't have insurance

18:16

why don't they have insurance well

18:18

these are expensive homes There's a

18:20

lot of, they're exposed to a

18:22

lot of risks. Some of them

18:24

are on the ocean, risk of

18:27

flooding, risk of fire, risk of

18:29

earthquakes. So it's difficult to get

18:31

earthquake insurance in California. I believe

18:33

when I lived there I didn't

18:35

have it because the cost of

18:37

earthquake insurance was something like $250,000

18:39

a year and I'm not kidding.

18:41

a quarter of a million dollars

18:43

a year to get earthquake insurance.

18:45

So the insurance companies know that

18:47

they could be facing huge liability,

18:49

so they wanted to raise their

18:52

rates. And in effect, California said

18:54

no. And so the insurance companies

18:56

go, all right, well then we'll

18:58

stop providing insurance to large parts

19:00

of the state. And so this

19:02

is why you have parts of

19:04

California that don't have insurance. And

19:06

again, you want to play Russian

19:08

roulette, this way you can do

19:10

it. So, you know, it's not.

19:12

Right to blame people who are

19:14

who have had tragedy, but it's

19:17

also not wrong to point out

19:19

that you get what you vote

19:21

for If you if you want

19:23

if you vote for Idiologues on

19:25

the left who don't care about

19:27

you are just interested in siphoning

19:29

off your money If you want

19:31

a virtue signal in this way

19:33

in that case you have to

19:35

live with the consequences. This is

19:37

the leadership that you chose you

19:39

you had other options by the

19:41

way Karen Bass rat against a

19:44

very competent businessman Rick Caruso They

19:46

could have voted for him. They

19:48

chose not to. He would have

19:50

probably been right on top of

19:52

all this, but you went with

19:54

the Marxist instead, and so no

19:56

surprise, she was bailing with her

19:58

Marxist buddies in Ghana. while while

20:00

your house burned down. Very Very

20:03

prophetically Trump was on Rogan just

20:05

a a few months ago. and

20:07

and the topic of water came up. came

20:09

up and Trump pointed out,

20:12

again, somewhat clairvoyantly,

20:15

that there's a huge there's

20:17

a huge water water from Canada. a

20:19

lot of it a lot of it

20:21

melting from the ice, that comes

20:23

flowing down into California and...

20:25

and properly managed, could run through the

20:27

whole state and provide a lot of

20:29

water. a lot of water. But, Because

20:31

of environmental issues, apparently there's

20:33

some kind of there's some kind of

20:36

a or some kind of kind of

20:38

a trying to protect trying to you

20:40

know I want all this water coming in

20:42

from Canada. all this water into the Pacific Canada, We

20:44

don't want it to come through our

20:46

state. the And now? We don't

20:48

don't have enough through our state. And

20:50

now, we are empty. water. Our

20:53

well, are again. again. Your

20:55

political choices have have resulted

20:57

in this problem. knew

20:59

it was a knew it was a

21:01

problem in advance? didn't do uh... you

21:03

didn't do anything about it you didn't

21:06

even care about it and now

21:08

you have to live have to live

21:10

with it the other point Trump made had

21:12

to to do with deforestation. One of the One

21:14

of the reasons spread is is because

21:16

you've got a lot of wood,

21:18

of dry wood, very close together. One of

21:20

of the ways you reduce that problem

21:22

is you clear the forest. You

21:25

thin it out out You

21:27

do forest management, management let

21:29

you do forest won't let you do

21:31

in management in California because of

21:33

the environmental impact So now

21:35

what is the is the environmental impact

21:37

of these fires? these all this pollution

21:39

going to help the environment? How's

21:42

all the smoke gonna make things

21:44

better? smoke gonna make things from

21:46

an environmental perspective, what you

21:48

have here is an

21:50

unmitigated, here is an unmitigated disaster.

21:52

So So you know, you know... Put

21:54

his finger on of of the

21:56

key problems having to having to do

21:58

with the management of the... forest and

22:00

the other having to do with

22:03

the management of the water. California

22:05

has failed miserably and if there's

22:07

one silver lining from all this,

22:09

I think it pretty much torpedoes,

22:11

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And Ellen, welcome,

24:59

thank you for

25:02

joining me. and I Debbie and

25:04

I had the pleasure of joining you

25:06

your wife, Mary Lou and

25:08

others. and others a Salem

25:10

trip to Israel. I

25:13

guess this was now at

25:15

the end of 2022, if I'm

25:17

right. right. And I I think we

25:19

all found that to be a really

25:21

memorable in some way way of a

25:23

of a of a life -changing trip And

25:25

I'm happy to say we've stayed

25:27

in touch we've stayed then since then had a

25:30

chance to talk politics and also

25:32

and also a bunch of other things

25:34

also a bunch of other things. It's great

25:36

to see you see you and Denise

25:38

and yes, what a what a memorable

25:40

trip I I think it was in

25:42

December in December 2022. and a life changing experience for

25:44

experience for all of us. I

25:47

know you and Debbie have talked

25:49

about it on your podcast

25:51

and it was the same thing the

25:53

same thing my wife and I,

25:55

and I and yeah, I mean, I

25:57

mean, forward to being being able to go back.

26:00

as soon as we can. That

26:02

would be great. Yeah, we're actually

26:04

giving some thought. We're talking to

26:06

Salem about possibly doing something the

26:08

end of this year, but it

26:10

hasn't been set up yet. Details

26:12

to follow. Let's talk

26:15

about Canada. You are

26:17

a native Canadian and

26:20

you have been watching all

26:22

of this up close. At the

26:24

same time, you're quite familiar

26:27

with America. You've

26:29

experienced both countries.

26:31

you've experienced both at

26:33

the were you surprised at the

26:36

by decision resign

26:39

to resign and talk a

26:41

little Talk a little bit about the

26:43

process that led to that result. Yes,

26:46

Yes, absolutely, great question.

26:48

question. So, so the, I mean,

26:51

me first, so we have a so

26:53

we have a different system than

26:55

the the So we have the parliamentary

26:57

system that comes from England. You

26:59

from India would be familiar with

27:01

that. with that. have the House of

27:04

of Commons, which which would be

27:06

the House of Representative We do

27:08

have a Senate, but it

27:10

doesn't factor in. but it doesn't

27:12

factor have four major

27:14

parties. parties. And during an

27:16

an election, whoever gets

27:18

the most seats gets a a chance

27:21

to form the government. Well,

27:23

because we have we have more than

27:25

two parties, you get in in

27:27

situations like we're in

27:29

now. is the which is

27:31

the the the liberal government

27:33

is a minority government.

27:36

So So in order to To

27:38

continue to govern, it needs to

27:40

make a deal with another party,

27:42

in this case the NDP. the NDP.

27:44

And so since the last the

27:46

last election, there's been a

27:49

minority. a minority, so it gives a

27:51

lot of leverage to the end. to

27:53

the NDP, who could make

27:56

the government the government fall if

27:58

they pull their support. And

28:00

their leader in December said that

28:02

when the House of Common would

28:04

sit again in 2025, they would

28:07

entertain a vote of nonconfidence, which

28:09

is really a vote in the

28:11

House of Commons to vote against

28:13

the ruling party, the party that's

28:16

forming the government. So Trudeau has

28:18

been there for about nine years.

28:20

He is fairly unpopular. And when

28:22

the NDP said, we don't want,

28:25

we're going to have an election,

28:27

it really forced Justin Trudeau's hands,

28:29

and he was faced with a

28:31

decision to say, well, am I

28:34

going to stay on as leader

28:36

going into another election? I think

28:38

he did the right thing. I

28:40

know some people are not happy

28:43

with what he's done and the

28:45

way he's done it and delayed

28:47

the return of the legislature. to

28:49

march, I think it's okay. So

28:52

the liberal will have a campaign

28:54

to vote a new leader. And

28:56

the last thing I'd say about

28:58

that system, Danesh, is we don't

29:01

elect the Prime Minister in Canada,

29:03

right? So it's the leader of

29:05

the party that forms of government,

29:07

that is the Prime Minister. So

29:10

the liberal party will change leader.

29:12

That leader will become the next

29:14

prime minister. then the legislature will

29:16

return and sit and there will

29:18

be this vote of nonconfidence. The

29:21

government will fall and then we

29:23

should have an election shortly thereafter.

29:25

This is very interesting and of

29:27

course something I'm familiar with as

29:30

you mentioned from India. I also

29:32

remember years ago when Margaret Thatcher

29:34

who many of us thought was

29:36

this icon of British politics and

29:39

of course she had won two

29:41

maybe three national elections. and yet

29:43

there was an erosion of support

29:45

for her in a relatively small

29:48

wing of her own party,

29:50

they declared a

29:52

vote of no

29:54

confidence and she

29:57

was out never,

29:59

never to return.

30:01

So this is

30:03

what happens in,

30:06

in a parliamentary

30:08

system. It seemed for

30:10

a while, Alan, that you had

30:12

these kind of charismatic, young,

30:14

liberal progressives who were

30:17

running the show all

30:19

over the place. Right?

30:21

To To some degree,

30:23

suppose you could call

30:26

Bill Clinton in his

30:28

younger days, even Obama,

30:30

Macron in France, the,

30:33

the Gors Trudeau in

30:35

Canada. and it seems

30:37

like there is now a kind

30:39

of almost a

30:42

global reassessment. and the

30:44

emergence of a a

30:46

new and articulate right,

30:48

a global right which maybe

30:50

didn't exist before. Do

30:53

you agree with this and

30:55

say a little bit about

30:57

Pierre the the

30:59

of conservative leader, because it seems

31:01

like he is He

31:03

strikes me as being a little bit more

31:05

of a Reaganite cons... Then let's say

31:08

a Trump -Maga type I

31:10

don't know if that's an accurate assessment, but I'd love

31:12

to hear what you say, what you think about it.

31:15

Yeah, so so certainly

31:17

agree with the assessment of

31:19

what you said, in, yeah,

31:21

let's, let's talk about Trudeau.

31:23

So Trudeau was first elected

31:25

in 2015. So he... Yeah,

31:27

he does come from this kind

31:29

of Obama type, charismatic,

31:33

not too much substance, DEI

31:35

kind of person. And,

31:38

and came in

31:40

after, about nine years

31:42

of the government. I

31:44

love Stephen Harper. Super smart. I think he did

31:46

a lot of things for the, for

31:48

the country, but

31:51

let's face it, it's not overly

31:53

charismatic. And, and

31:55

this, uh,

31:57

Trudeau. I came

32:00

up board and it's important to note

32:02

that his last name carried

32:04

a lot of weight, right?

32:06

weight right got into politics late

32:08

in life, he was

32:10

a in life he was a

32:12

teacher, teacher know, sort of

32:14

outdoors outdoors man you know you

32:16

know, has this feminist

32:19

streak in him and and so

32:21

he was elected to parliament

32:23

elected then he then he became

32:25

the leader. leader. And I I

32:27

think Canadians were ready

32:29

for a change after Harper.

32:32

away from And type of liberal

32:34

had been struggling after but people

32:36

grew tired a new charismatic

32:38

leader. leader, did find find Trudeau,

32:40

and then, but people grew tired of

32:42

of it. that, yes,

32:44

think a there is a global

32:46

shift away from this type

32:49

of personality. but from

32:51

a substance standpoint as well, some

32:53

of the same things

32:55

that we have seen in

32:58

the U .S. that to election

33:00

of re-election of of Donald Trump.

33:02

and the and the Republicans winning

33:04

the Senate and the is

33:06

like if you if like, look if you

33:08

look at what Canadians are concerned

33:10

about inflation in really two in

33:12

really two ways, right? So the groceries,

33:14

are people are saying, I can't afford

33:16

the same kind of groceries that I that

33:18

I could and And and a lot of that

33:20

is driven by. by what we

33:22

call here here to carbon tax right so

33:25

So the liberal party, of sort

33:27

of types, let's save the environment,

33:29

so so we're gonna

33:31

to gasoline. which is

33:33

is through the supply chain

33:35

you know, from farmer to table,

33:38

it creates a a lot of

33:40

inflation. There's been terrible inflation. on

33:43

the housing sector. housing sector of

33:46

too much immigration

33:48

Canadians are, you know, pro-immigration,

33:50

know, we're proud of

33:52

our our multicultural. Um,

33:55

background. there's there was just too many

33:57

just too many immigrants that

33:59

came say. time and not

34:01

enough housing. And then let's

34:03

not forget the truckers. Trudeau,

34:05

I think, overplayed his hand,

34:08

see bank accounts when the

34:10

truckers went to Ottawa and

34:12

protested against all the COVID

34:15

measures. And that really showed

34:17

how Justin Trudeau was out

34:19

of touch with people. Some

34:21

people say, well, you know,

34:24

he's like the Canadian Canadian

34:26

Trump. No, he's not the

34:28

Canadian Trump. First of all,

34:31

there's only one Trump. I

34:33

would say that he's, you

34:35

know, maybe he's somewhat of

34:38

a JD Vance pipe without

34:40

the business experience. He's very

34:42

articulate, charismatic and all of

34:44

his proposals and what he's

34:47

gonna advocate to the next

34:49

campaign. for him to become

34:51

Prime Minister are going to

34:54

be similar to what you

34:56

guys debated during your last

34:58

election. Yeah, I think he's

35:00

known to most Americans and

35:03

to me from that viral

35:05

video that he did where

35:07

he's eating an apple and

35:10

this journalist is trying to

35:12

pepper him with questions about

35:14

linking him to Trump. and

35:16

he very surgically demolishes the

35:19

guy and I've seen a

35:21

number of videos of him

35:23

subsequently it seems that ideologically

35:26

he is center right he's

35:28

because he keeps whenever I

35:30

hear someone who emphasizes again

35:32

and again common sense that

35:35

tells me that it's someone

35:37

who is generally conservative, but

35:39

does not want to defend

35:42

their ideas and ideological terms.

35:44

And so they frame it

35:46

as common sense. We're just

35:48

doing the practical, the common

35:51

sensical thing to do. But

35:53

as you say, it looks

35:55

like he wants, you know,

35:58

modest taxation, responsible government. spending

36:00

a a

36:02

prudential foreign policy, approach

36:05

to the kind of a pragmatic approach

36:07

to the immigration question. In other

36:09

words, don't let the country get

36:12

over inundated with immigrants. It's going

36:14

to have. have it's going to

36:16

be difficult to assimilate them.

36:18

They'll drive up home prices. Is

36:20

this a pretty good a pretty good summary

36:22

of 11 also What are you

36:24

had to go on polymarket

36:27

to be these betting sites and on

36:29

the chances. What's the chances he's

36:31

going to make it across the

36:33

finish line? going to make it across

36:35

the first part, line? you the words

36:37

out of my mouth. So took it words

36:39

out of my mouth. So is the perfect. a it

36:42

is the of who he is

36:44

and what his positions are. he is and

36:46

what on. in terms are.

36:48

terms of your debt on in terms of

36:50

his chances. I I don't think

36:52

anyone has a doubt a will be the next

36:54

Prime Minister. the next Prime Minister.

36:57

And the reason I say that

36:59

is, all, let's First of all, let's

37:01

look at the in And in terms of his

37:04

his popularity and the popularity of

37:06

his of his party, if you

37:08

look at the last few polls that

37:10

have come out, think the latest

37:12

one I've seen where the I've 45 %

37:14

support. 45% that's tremendously more

37:17

than they had in the

37:19

last election where they were

37:21

around where were around 32% and and the liberal

37:23

party is know, I've seen know

37:25

as seen as low as 16% but But

37:27

then you need to just say

37:29

how does that translate into the

37:32

number of seats in the

37:34

parliament that the that the the

37:36

parties are are likely and

37:38

there's to win, and there's currently going to

37:40

seats. It's gonna be a little bit more

37:42

in the next election. in in

37:44

the next election. the The party,

37:46

in order to form

37:48

a majority, a will need

37:50

172 seats. seats it's currently,

37:53

the the the conservative currently polling

37:55

at 227 seats. Then you

37:57

could could ask, what What kind

37:59

of impact? Will the liberal leadership

38:01

race have? And I think, and

38:03

most of the commentators in Canada

38:06

say, it will not have a

38:08

big impact on the poll results

38:10

that I just described to you.

38:13

And why is that? Because the

38:15

most likely candidates to run for

38:17

the leadership of the liberal party,

38:20

hence become. the Prime Minister until

38:22

an election, they're already from the

38:25

party. They're already associated with all

38:27

the true policies that the Kenyan

38:29

people are currently in a mood

38:32

to reject. So I think that

38:34

most commentators will tell you that

38:36

the odds of a majority, a

38:39

concerted government with its leader, Piampoisoyev,

38:41

are extremely high, close to certain.

38:43

I mean, wow, it seems in

38:46

some ways almost a replay of

38:48

what happened in the United States,

38:50

doesn't it? I mean, you have,

38:53

I'm not saying that Trudeau is

38:55

the same as Biden, but what

38:57

I am saying is that in

39:00

both cases, you have a guy

39:02

who becomes toxic, essentially becomes impossible

39:04

to re-elect. And so they decide,

39:07

let's go with option two. Obviously

39:09

in this case it was Kamala

39:11

Harris on our side, you're saying

39:14

it's going to be someone else

39:16

but probably someone closely tied to

39:18

Trudeau and they're going to be

39:21

in the very awkward position where

39:23

they can't. fully distance themselves from

39:26

true. That's what Kamala Harris's dilemma

39:28

was, right? That she was, in

39:30

fact, at one point she was

39:33

asked, you know, what policies of

39:35

Biden do you disagree with? And

39:37

she infamously said, I can't think

39:40

of any. And there are some

39:42

commentators who think right there and

39:44

then that decided the fate of

39:47

the 2024 election. So it sounds

39:49

like you, are optimistic. Does, does

39:51

Pulev's election signal that Canada will

39:54

be on a better... stronger

39:56

path going forward.

39:58

you optimistic about

40:01

the future? I

40:04

am. I am and especially, well,

40:07

I would say two ways. One,

40:09

economically. So I think yeah,

40:12

is common sense approach to the

40:14

economy. is something

40:16

that we're gonna greatly benefit

40:18

from. And also like you're seeing

40:20

in the US, sort of

40:22

distancing ourselves from the DEI stuff,

40:24

the wokeness stuff. right

40:26

And back to

40:29

Tom and Sam solutions that

40:32

work as opposed to these

40:34

principles of equality and diversity. And

40:37

I like

40:40

your... your

40:42

analogy to what happened

40:44

in the U .S. with

40:46

Kamala Harris and, you

40:48

know, the difference is

40:50

Trudeau didn't pick his

40:52

successor. and he's giving

40:54

the party, the liberal party, 60 days

40:56

to have this, you know, I mean, when

40:58

you think about it, it's a very

41:00

short period to have a race. Like you

41:02

guys in the US, you have the

41:04

primaries that Go for way more

41:06

than 60 days. and ours

41:08

is going to be 60 days.

41:10

So So the leader, whoever that

41:12

leader is. think about it, Dinesh,

41:14

like, you know, people have been

41:16

talking about people. uh...

41:18

from outside the liberal party like who

41:21

was governor of the bank of

41:23

canada in England. Maybe he's

41:25

going to jump in, but

41:27

the decision that these people have to

41:29

make, those who are not necessarily tied

41:31

to the Trudeau policies because they've

41:33

been in parliament with him, Um...

41:36

are they wanting to get as

41:38

leader of the liberal to rebuild

41:40

that party? Because that's what's going

41:42

to have to happen. after

41:44

the next election. the leader

41:46

will have to to rebuild

41:48

the party, bring out fresh policies,

41:50

and so on and so

41:53

forth. And the last thing

41:55

I'll say, mean, Canadian a long history.

41:58

of parties. this

42:00

when we do, we do, of know,

42:02

sort of the last 55 years,

42:04

nine years, more or less. or

42:06

And when we throw somebody out,

42:08

we really out, somebody out. People

42:10

will remember in the 80s

42:12

when remember in the 80s when the government was

42:14

popular, was years, did 10 and when

42:16

Canadians turned on them, on them, they,

42:18

they, we had had an election and

42:20

they only won two seats. It

42:22

went from from 190 seats to

42:25

two seats in one election. Wow.

42:27

I'm not saying we're gonna

42:29

see that type of landslide. of

42:31

landslide with the the conserved against

42:34

liberal but there be

42:36

a there will be a landslide. stuff.

42:39

fascinating stuff. Guys, I've been

42:41

talking to Lambert, entrepreneur, venture

42:43

capitalist. You can follow him

42:45

on follow home on X at Real -a

42:47

-i -n -l. Alan, this is

42:49

great. Thank you for joining me,

42:51

me and and perhaps love to have

42:53

you back you back across the finish

42:55

line. We'll talk about a new

42:57

era for Canada. a new era for

43:00

Well, I think we're going to be talking

43:02

soon, Let's hope so. Let's hope so. Denish.

43:04

Let's hope so. I'm now pretty

43:06

much in the pretty much in

43:08

the middle of my book, The

43:10

Big paperback, in paperback, in available

43:13

in Amazon, Barnes & Noble, any

43:15

place you wanna get it. to get it.

43:17

And the topic I The topic

43:19

I want to talk about today is, it's

43:21

a a subtitle in the book. book,

43:23

it's called called fascism

43:25

as a non -racist concept.

43:27

This will be a this will be

43:30

a surprise to many people

43:32

all our life, all our all our

43:34

life. we've been adult life. We've

43:36

been hearing about fascism, racism, and

43:38

the kind of glib equation

43:40

between the two. But I want

43:43

to emphasize that if you that

43:45

if you you mention three... ideologies,

43:47

fascism, Nazism, and let's

43:50

just say progressivism

43:52

or let's just say policies or

43:54

loosely the policies of

43:56

the which you think is the Which you think

43:58

is the most racist of the three. Well, I

44:00

think it's a contest between

44:03

Nazism and the Democratic Party.

44:05

They would be vying for

44:07

one and two. And fascism

44:09

would be a distant third.

44:11

And this is the point

44:14

I'm going to demonstrate today.

44:16

That fascist racism is a

44:18

kind of... oxymoron. It's a

44:20

contradiction in terms. There's nothing

44:22

intrinsically racist about fascism. And

44:25

I say this not to

44:27

excuse fascism in any way,

44:29

simply to have accuracy about

44:31

what we are talking about.

44:33

The way that we can

44:36

see what fascism has to

44:38

do with racism, and there

44:40

is some connection, but the

44:42

connection is mild. It's not

44:44

one of those fundamental tightly

44:47

knit... connections that you can

44:49

find, let's say, for example,

44:51

between Nazism and racism. Let's

44:53

look at the quintessential fascist

44:55

Benito Mussolini. Mussolini didn't really

44:58

have anything against blacks and

45:00

he had almost nothing against

45:02

Jews. He, in fact, he

45:04

was very friendly as we'll

45:06

see in a moment with

45:08

Jews. Now, generically... In the

45:11

early part of the 20th

45:13

century there was a lot

45:15

of talk about Africa as

45:17

being uncivilized and the white

45:19

man's burden and so Mussolini

45:22

had some of those generic

45:24

views but they were not

45:26

directed against any specific community

45:28

in fact there were hardly

45:30

any blacks in Italy at

45:33

all. As for Jews Mussolini

45:35

liked him. He apparently had

45:37

a mistress named Margarita Sarfati

45:39

Jewish. There were plenty of

45:41

Jews in the early fascist

45:44

movement. So when Mussolini had

45:46

the early fascist meetings, he

45:48

was surrounded by Jews. Here

45:50

is A. James Gregory, the

45:52

Berkeley historian, before the late

45:55

1930s, Mussolini had never betrayed

45:57

any evidence of anti-Semitism. Now,

46:00

the the reason some people

46:02

misunderstand this is because Mussolini

46:04

will sometimes talk about sometimes talk

46:06

race. Italian you get the

46:08

idea here the buying into this

46:11

concept of, you know, concept of,

46:13

you know, of Italians being some

46:15

kind of a superior race. race.

46:17

But have to remember that

46:19

this kind of talk, the

46:22

idea of the being race as being

46:24

a a kind of for

46:26

for nation. was very common

46:28

in the early the early 20th It

46:30

was um was a term used

46:33

by lots term used by lots of

46:35

people. Roosevelt used

46:37

it Winston Winston Churchill

46:39

used it. If If you look

46:41

at Churchill's speeches, you will see

46:43

things speeches, you will race, or

46:46

the British race.

46:48

British race. And Churchill here

46:50

doesn't mean mean the

46:53

sense that we understand the term.

46:55

term. He He means our British

46:57

nation, our island nation. And so

46:59

Mussolini, when he talks about the so

47:01

Mussolini when he talks about the

47:04

Italian race is saying nothing more like

47:06

my like my own people I

47:08

like our customs. I like our

47:10

language. I like our history for

47:13

And of course for correctly. So by the

47:15

way. the history all the

47:17

way back to the glorious days of

47:19

the Roman days of the Roman Empire.

47:21

So yeah, Yeah, Mussolini had this

47:23

kind of of... consciousness. that

47:26

is sometimes that is

47:28

sometimes mistaken to be... By the

47:30

consciousness. By the way, this also happens

47:32

to some degree with Trump. Trump

47:34

Trump will talk about. how much he loves

47:36

he loves America? about He'll talk about

47:38

America first. the And from the

47:40

point of view of the what what

47:42

they hear. Trump is Trump

47:45

is affirming white supremacy. Trump is

47:47

somehow affirming not just America

47:49

first, but rather kind of

47:51

the triumph of the white

47:53

man. of the white

47:55

man. And now, once Hitler

47:57

came to power...

48:00

and Hitler became very powerful.

48:02

Mussolini made an alliance with

48:04

Hitler. This is not a

48:06

big surprise. Fascism and national

48:08

socialism or Naziism are very

48:10

close in ideology. And so

48:13

Mussolini, when he did that,

48:15

knew of course that Hitler

48:17

was an anti-Semite. And so

48:19

he began to go along

48:21

with some of the Nazi

48:24

themes. Jews are money grubbers,

48:26

Jews are unassimilable, they won't

48:28

become part of your society,

48:30

that there should be discrimination

48:32

against Jews. Mussolini in this

48:35

stage, and let's remember what

48:37

stage are we talking about,

48:39

1933 to about 1939, this

48:41

is the years after Hitler

48:43

came to power, This is

48:46

probably the period in which

48:48

Mussolini gave in to, reluctantly,

48:50

but he gave in nevertheless

48:52

to a certain amount of

48:54

racism, as I say, influenced

48:57

by the Nazis. Many of

48:59

the fascist intellectuals around Mussolini

49:01

told him, don't do this.

49:03

In fact, the person who

49:05

most strongly objected was in

49:08

fact the intellectual godfather of

49:10

fascism Giovanni Gentile. He said,

49:12

this kind of... Anti-Semitic stuff

49:14

we're doing in Italy is

49:16

just completely objectionable, but Mussolini

49:18

felt that he had to

49:21

do it. But, even having

49:23

said that, Mussolini did not

49:25

go along with Hitler. Hitler,

49:27

remember, had a doctrine of

49:29

Nordic superiority, and this actually

49:32

meant that the Northern Europeans,

49:34

according to Hitler, were superior

49:36

even to the Southern Europeans.

49:38

So think about this. From

49:40

Hitler's point of view, the

49:43

Germans are superior to the

49:45

Italians. Would you expect Muslim

49:47

to agree? Of course not.

49:49

Not only did he not

49:51

agree, he viewed... rejected

49:54

the idea and

49:56

and he championed championed

49:58

the and solidarity

50:00

and the

50:02

greatness of the

50:05

Italians as

50:07

a the Italians as a

50:09

people only that

50:11

only that but But Mussolini

50:14

had the uh... had the

50:16

private were being Jews were

50:18

being mistreated in Germany. And a

50:20

Muslim would not say that

50:22

publicly because he was. he

50:25

Kind of the of the junior in

50:27

the in the Nazi fascist

50:29

alliance. Germany a

50:32

much bigger bigger, richer, stronger

50:34

country than Italy.

50:37

And in fact, as In

50:39

fact, as the war went on.

50:41

Germany would ask the Italians

50:43

to Italians to provide troops, more troops

50:45

for the war. for the war. And

50:47

Mussolini would would say you

50:49

know basically to Hitler

50:51

he would say I

50:53

don't have a them. He

50:56

would go. go. Italy is not

50:58

Germany. We don't have that kind of

51:00

power. of We can help you out you

51:02

out, but I think what I think

51:04

what Mussolini meant is that we can

51:06

defend our homeland. we we

51:08

can help you in help you

51:10

in your operations in North

51:13

Africa. to us which are

51:15

closer to us geographically. to mention

51:17

not to mention we're dealing

51:19

with weaker countries here like

51:21

Libya, Tunisia, but remember Hitler

51:24

Hitler was going to war with Britain. Hitler

51:26

was going to war with France,

51:28

Hitler was going to war with

51:30

the most powerful European countries of

51:32

the entire of the entire early 20th century.

51:34

the early Mussolini was like, and I

51:36

can't take those guys on, I they're

51:38

stronger than me. guys on they're

51:40

stronger As the war went

51:42

on, on began to flee Germany. and

51:44

very and very interestingly, at at a

51:46

time by by the way, the United

51:49

States wouldn't take Jews take Jews other

51:51

European countries were reluctant to take Jews

51:53

in part because they didn't want

51:55

to infuriate Hitler. didn't want to

51:57

infuriate Hitler, Mussolini took

51:59

Jews. So he was exemplary in

52:01

hiding Jews in Italy and helping

52:03

them get out. In other words,

52:06

go through Italy elsewhere. He couldn't

52:08

keep him in Italy, but it

52:10

was like, I'll give you a

52:12

safe passage through Italy to wherever

52:15

you want to go. And Hitler

52:17

was not happy about this. Hitler

52:19

actually said, asked Mussolini, make sure

52:21

he understood that Mussolini was not

52:24

going to turn over Italian Jews.

52:26

So he said, why don't you

52:28

turn over the Jews from Italian-occupied

52:30

Croatia? Italian-occupied Yugoslavia, Italian-occupied Greece, Albania,

52:32

North Africa. In other words, the

52:35

places where Italy conquers, grab the

52:37

Jews from there and send them

52:39

to me, so he didn't say

52:41

so we can kill him, but

52:44

that was basically his objective. Mussolini,

52:46

to his credit, said, no, I'm

52:48

not doing it. And he didn't.

52:50

So when we sum up, what

52:52

we find out is that fascism...

52:55

in its core is not a

52:57

racist ideology. Is it a leftist

52:59

ideology? Yes. The racism came in

53:01

from the Nazi side, from the

53:04

German side. And so to answer

53:06

my question again that I raised

53:08

at the beginning, we have fascism,

53:10

we have progressivism in the democratic

53:13

party. Which is the most racist?

53:15

I think, oppressed, I would have

53:17

to say, Nazism just because of

53:19

the way it executed that racism.

53:21

But again, it's a close call.

53:24

You know, yeah, the Nazis killed

53:26

6 million Jews, but how many

53:28

blacks did the Democratic Party enslave

53:30

over 150 years? A lot. How

53:33

many of the Democrats kill in

53:35

various lynchings and murders? and suppression

53:37

of slave revolts over again going

53:39

back from the founding of the

53:42

Democratic Party around 1830 all the

53:44

way to the middle of the

53:46

20th century it's a big death

53:48

toll so one can go back

53:50

and forth and give

53:53

the first position

53:55

to the Nazis

53:57

or to the

53:59

Democrats to It's a

54:02

close competition. That's

54:04

my point. the

54:06

the fascist fall into a

54:09

very distant a close place. That's

54:12

my point. The

54:15

fascists fall into

54:17

a very distant

54:19

third place.