673 - H.L. Hunt - Part Three

673 - H.L. Hunt - Part Three

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Texas on March 22nd at the

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You can get tickets at dollar

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podcast.com/ tour. You're listening to

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the... Well, that was rude. You're listening

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to the dollop. This is an American

2:05

History podcast where each week I, Dave

2:07

Anthony, read a story from American History

2:09

to a... My best friend, Gareth Reynolds,

2:11

a rude boy. Who has no idea

2:13

what the topic is going to be

2:15

about. A rude boy. It's got an

2:17

actual rude person. No, well you said

2:19

it wrong. I didn't say it wrong.

2:21

Full. It's just a different way of saying

2:23

it. Foolish boy. That's for the people

2:25

who complain. Yeah, you're pouring liquid death

2:27

into a fucking. That's for that one

2:29

woman who said that it was really

2:31

hard to focus when we take sips

2:33

of things. Yeah, she didn't like that.

2:35

But let's remind her that we're on

2:37

three parts back, two back. Yeah, so

2:39

there's gonna be some sipping. Some people

2:41

have to get sipped. Some people are

2:43

gonna get fucking hurt. What do you

2:45

mean? That's what we're talking, that's what

2:47

you're saying. You're saying, look, the three parters,

2:50

so some people are gonna get hurt.

2:52

I didn't say that. Yeah, you basically

2:54

said she's got to deal with it.

2:56

She's gonna get hurt. Well, I don't

2:58

want to hurt her. That's what you're

3:00

doing. No, no, no, no, no, no,

3:02

no, no, no, no. That poor girl.

3:04

That poor girl, no, no, no, no,

3:06

no, no. That poor girl, no, no.

3:08

That poor girl, no, no. That poor

3:10

girl, no, no, no. That poor girl,

3:12

no, no, no. That poor girl, no, no,

3:14

no, no. That poor girl, no. That

3:16

poor girl, no, no, no. That poor

3:18

girl, no. That poor girl, no, no

3:21

Oh man, it is amazing. I

3:23

love the show, but you guys

3:25

are breathing a lot. A lot

3:28

of breathing. Gareth, the dollop's gonna

3:30

be on tour, are you aware

3:32

of that? I'm actually unavailable, I'm

3:34

doing a whole new thing. God

3:36

damn it, seriously. I wrote a

3:39

musical. We're gonna be on tour

3:41

this March, which I this is

3:43

probably in March now. The dates

3:45

are coming up soon is Tempe

3:48

Arizona starting on March 16th. And

3:50

then we go to Albuquerque the

3:52

next day and that'll be two

3:54

shows. The first show sold out,

3:57

the second show, is like a

3:59

Best Up show. So we're gonna

4:01

go through, you're gonna bring up

4:03

a script that's like a classic

4:06

script that people really like, and

4:08

we're gonna do it again, and

4:10

I guarantee you, I won't remember

4:12

shit. I won't either. And you

4:15

probably won't remember much either. Are

4:17

you going to refresh it at

4:19

all? Part of you was saying

4:21

you might refresh at a little.

4:24

I might if I have time.

4:26

Yeah. If not, you'll just be

4:28

like, you'll just be like, like,

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like, like, like, like, wait, wait,

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wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,

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wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,

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wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,

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wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, what,

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like, like, like, like, like, like,

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like, like, like, And then we'll

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go to Oklahoma City, Brechtown Comedy

4:53

Club, and then Tulsa Brechtown Comedy

4:55

Club, and then Dallas, the Granada

4:57

Theater, and then Houston House of

4:59

Blues, and then Austin, Cap City

5:02

Comedy Club, and then June. We

5:04

got on tour again, the Sacramento

5:06

Punch Line on June 3rd, Egyptian

5:08

Theater, Seattle, Aladdin Theater, Portland. June

5:11

7th, town, tower theater, band organ,

5:13

June 8th, and the Palace of

5:15

Fine Arts, San Francisco, June 10th.

5:17

Tickets at LA, tickets at podcast,

5:19

Dallop Podcast. At LA. At Lop

5:22

Podcast. At LA. At Dallop Podcast.

5:24

At LA. Dallop Podcast. At LA

5:26

Dallop. At LA Dallop. Yeah, I

5:28

don't know. The only thing that

5:31

my brain was going back to

5:33

is the LA Podcast Festival. What

5:35

else could it be? What are

5:37

you? Are you bringing it back?

5:40

I'm not telling? I might have

5:42

some kind of time warp. Are

5:44

you, are you thinking about bringing

5:46

it back? No, my brain is

5:49

time traveling. Yeah. That's how this

5:51

show ends. Every day you wake

5:53

up, you shout the date. Christ.

5:55

1952. So, H.L. is now getting

5:58

in with, uh... Anti-comies McCarthy and

6:00

all those types good people at

6:02

age as well He is disappointed

6:04

in Hassie's condition As we all

6:07

are. As he of course had

6:09

a lobotomy and that for some

6:11

reason didn't go well. Yeah. He

6:13

never gave up on Hasse going

6:15

back to normal and he would

6:18

always answer quote he's getting better

6:20

when people asked about. So part

6:22

of me goes that's like kind

6:24

of a humanizing quality but part

6:27

of me wonders if that's just

6:29

because he wanted more oil speculating

6:31

or part of me wonders if

6:33

he just holds onto a lot

6:36

of guilt because... He had this

6:38

lobotomy and... Not that one. Yeah.

6:40

No ways, that one. Maybe it's

6:42

a shortcoming because it came from

6:45

him? Or, well yeah, so if

6:47

he's a narcissist, an extension of

6:49

him can't be faulty. Yeah, right.

6:51

So it's got to be able

6:54

to be fixed. Yeah. Well, cool.

6:56

All right, there we go. There's

6:58

that. Gone and gone. He'd even

7:00

bring Hassie into the office sometimes.

7:03

But Hassie would only stare into

7:05

the distance and sometimes think out

7:07

loud for a sentence or two

7:09

saying things like, sometimes they let

7:11

me make my own decisions. Labotamies

7:14

are so dark. It's so bad.

7:16

Fuck! All right. Well, Ashley, I

7:18

think that was another one of

7:20

those inside, though. Ha-ha! How she

7:23

wants sex now. Oh! All right,

7:25

well, that's why we've got a

7:27

crew of mates at home. Has

7:29

he, come on now, we're at

7:32

the office, let's keep it, now,

7:34

let's keep everything up. Coming out,

7:36

taking it out, I see, I

7:38

see, put your thing away, I

7:41

see, put your thing away, I

7:43

see, put your thing away, I

7:45

see, put your thing away, let

7:47

him do it on the plant,

7:50

Jesus crashed, all right, and here's

7:52

the good news, the boy is

7:54

improving. So he's still not getting

7:56

better even after H.L. paid to

7:58

fly out an astrologer who he

8:01

was sure would be the key

8:03

to fixing his son. So I

8:05

know what the problem is. It

8:07

lives. in the stars. I know

8:10

you removed part of the frontal

8:12

cortex, but I have a way

8:14

of charting what he's after. You

8:16

said that it was because his

8:19

retrograde planet was in mercury? And

8:21

a lot of it has to

8:23

do with cassiopeia. So what we're

8:25

gonna do is we're gonna make

8:28

a star map for him. Oh,

8:30

and that'll be something he can

8:32

put on his wall and Hathi,

8:34

that'll be great for you to

8:37

look at and study. Why fuck

8:39

you? Okay, that'll change once we're

8:41

able to. That's part of the

8:43

payment. That's part of the payment.

8:46

I don't know if I understood

8:48

that part of it. It has

8:50

to now. Once he says that

8:52

he has to. I'm married, this

8:54

is a job for me. Oh,

8:57

I've done that, I've fucked around

8:59

so many, marriage doesn't matter, you

9:01

fuck whoever you want. Oh, this

9:03

room is comfy. I'm a astrologer.

9:06

So, the astrologer doesn't work and

9:08

H.L. decides he needs a new

9:10

hassy. And

9:14

Bunker's an idiot. That son's a

9:16

loss. Yeah, Bunker's a dweeb. He's

9:18

chubby too, which obviously takes him

9:21

out of the run for anything.

9:23

Lamar and Herbert are smart young

9:26

men, but they're not hussy. Even

9:28

the handsome young boy Ruth Ray

9:30

had given birth few wasn't a

9:33

total match. What age he'll need

9:35

it was an exact replica of

9:38

his son who physically resembled him

9:40

most. The genius son that he

9:42

put all his hopes into, even

9:45

though I neglected him for years

9:47

and years, he wanted science to

9:50

help and create a replica of

9:52

haci. Shut the fuck up! He's

9:54

getting shit done! Are we in

9:57

the craziest part? I mean, yeah.

9:59

And I mean, this guy had

10:02

15 kids. He's like, man, I

10:04

gotta go to a beaker. And

10:06

so I was wondering if you

10:09

could make another hassie. Siemens, not

10:11

an issue. Gareth, where were at

10:13

this time, where were scientists known

10:16

for the research on creating genetically

10:18

perfect human specimens? Germany. Oh, oh

10:21

dear. So H.L. sends an assistant

10:23

to Germany. We created an extra

10:25

hacicy for you. We actually came

10:28

up with three. You pick, we

10:30

cure the other two. We have

10:33

made 4,500 haci's. You, well, read

10:35

the document. I said one. In

10:37

Brazil. No, I said one. They

10:40

have taken the country? What the

10:42

fuck. I just said make one

10:45

of them. What are you talking

10:47

about? It says this assistant to

10:49

Germany, she has instructions or he

10:52

has instructions to offer $1 million

10:54

to a beautiful woman with a

10:57

high IQ who would agree to

10:59

either be artificially inseminated with his

11:01

or... Or the old-fashioned word. Or

11:04

Hassey's sperm. Oh, he wants Hassey's

11:06

house. He couldn't decide which. So

11:09

he's gonna be like, all right

11:11

boy, now here's a, this might

11:13

sound strange, Hassey, but I need

11:16

you to work off into this

11:18

cup here. But Hassey's mom is...

11:22

Uh, isn't that why? Lida? Yeah. So

11:24

why? And Lida's not, we already know

11:26

she's like not even that attractive is

11:29

what. So, oh yeah, well, I mean,

11:31

well, look, he's punching up. Yeah, okay.

11:33

He wants a punch up. He wants

11:35

a reboot. Okay, so. Now go find

11:38

a real hot woman. When the assistant

11:40

wasn't able to find a woman who

11:42

met all of his qualifications, H. Shell

11:45

told him to keep an eye out

11:47

closer to home. He wanted this so

11:49

much. He said that he'd even, quote,

11:52

settle for a lady with brown eyes.

11:54

He never did find the perfect man.

11:56

What the fun. Oh my God. The

11:59

approach of that must be the approach

12:01

of that. I shot this thing the

12:03

other day where it was like stupid

12:05

on the street stuff. It's like approaching

12:08

people for dumb shit is so awkward.

12:10

Approaching with the idea of just like,

12:12

excuse me ma'am, sorry to stop you.

12:15

I know you're going shopping right now.

12:17

How are you able to buy all

12:19

of your groceries? Are you ever in

12:22

need of... It's hard, but yeah. It's

12:24

a hard time. So I work for

12:26

a man whose son is named Hasey.

12:28

You're very beautiful and you have big

12:31

brown eyes. So we were looking to

12:33

inseminate you artificially or the old-fashioned. Oh,

12:35

sorry. No, no, no, what, no. No

12:38

what? No, no what? No, I don't

12:40

want that? Okay, can I finish the

12:42

pitch before you become an awful person?

12:45

So far, the attitude is a big

12:47

knock against you for this project. Do

12:49

you like a million dollars? Let me

12:51

start with this. Would you like a

12:54

million dollars? Yes. Can an old guy

12:56

finish inside of you or maybe his

12:58

son can? No. Can you wear a

13:01

nurses outfit? We provide. No? And then

13:03

it gets inside you? No. Will you

13:05

see a baby to term if, if

13:08

we decide that your IQ is past

13:10

the... the bar of what we're after?

13:12

No. Are your eyes naturally brown? Yes.

13:14

Can we please have one of a

13:17

father or a son or both finishing

13:19

you or one old-fashioned way or we

13:21

can put it in artificially? We can

13:24

artificially, ma'am, we can put it in

13:26

you without either one of their foreskin's

13:28

entering you. No, why would the foreskin?

13:31

No. What part of the penis is

13:33

the foreskin? Then let the meatus? Well,

13:35

why don't you meet us in the

13:38

middle and just say yes to a

13:40

deal like this? I don't ever say

13:42

meat is to me again. Why? I

13:44

don't give a shit what character in.

13:47

I'm still a character. No, you're not.

13:49

It is a meatus. You're literally never

13:51

saying meatus on this podcast. Yes, I

13:54

am. I'll say meatus over and over

13:56

again. Oh, it's us. Let's call it

13:58

the meatus concrete. So you never

14:00

found the perfect match and. Which is

14:03

also crazy. So now he's also run

14:05

in the fax form. Remember the fax

14:07

form? Yeah. The conservative nonsense. H.L. was

14:09

still focused on his war against poisoned

14:11

food and water. Can we just say

14:14

that it's awesome to be able to

14:16

fight the battle of, to be focused

14:18

on the fact that you're looking for

14:20

a new error and you're just gonna

14:22

put. either you or your son seaman

14:25

in a stranger as well at the

14:27

same time you're also fighting the battle

14:29

against communism the reds are coming at

14:31

the same time you're also fighting the

14:34

battle of the Jews poisoning the food

14:36

like that's a lot of there's a lot

14:38

of stuff and at the same time you're

14:40

an oilman there's a lot of stuff you

14:42

gotta do but it's a lot of plates to

14:44

spend So he would have his own

14:46

food grown on his land and

14:48

mostly just ate raw vegetables, whole

14:51

grains, nuts and honey. He decided

14:53

to share his idea of clean

14:55

food with other Americans and form

14:57

the H-L-H products. It would sell

14:59

many different foods. The label is

15:01

just like, no Jews touched it.

15:03

I wonder if this is on tomato.

15:06

Ooh. He sold many different foods,

15:08

but what H-O was most excited

15:10

about was his gastromagic. It's also

15:12

very funny that you say that

15:15

about Hunt's Tomatoes because as I

15:17

told you the other night someone

15:19

closed to us at a very

15:21

bad reaction after eating a can

15:24

of tomatoes. Yeah, he really did.

15:26

I mean on a level that

15:28

was shocking. So Gastrometric was a

15:31

blend of vitamins and antacid and

15:33

H.L. swore by it and even

15:35

erected a huge billboard for Gastrometric

15:38

on his front lawn. What is

15:40

there? But then neighbors complained and

15:42

the city made him take it

15:45

down. Yeah, well that, do you

15:47

realize how obnoxious a billboard

15:49

has to be if you're

15:51

going after a Robert Barron?

15:53

I mean, like to go

15:55

to a Robert Barron to

15:57

be like buddy, that billboard.

15:59

It sucks. I know you've

16:01

bought everything around here, but please.

16:04

He made his employees put Castro

16:06

magic bumper stickers on their

16:08

cars and paid for radio spots

16:11

where he read out the lines,

16:13

quote, hello, I am H.L. Hunt,

16:15

the world's richest man, and these

16:18

are Castro magic, which I make,

16:20

so they must be good. Try

16:23

some. That's right Gastro magic

16:25

available anywhere you get delicious produce

16:27

Gastro magic has not been touched

16:29

by or influenced by a

16:31

Jew Gastro magic you will

16:34

not be poisoned and your

16:36

son will not become schizophrenic

16:38

because he ate it Gastro

16:41

magic your life won't be tragic

16:44

So now, it was, Hunt's

16:46

tomato sauce was made by,

16:48

in 1880, in Sebastian Pool,

16:50

by the Hunt Brothers. Okay,

16:52

different. Yeah, thank God. Mike

16:54

and Mark. But I love

16:56

the idea that he's just

16:58

selling it by being like, I'm

17:00

rich, so it's gotta be good.

17:03

Hey, how about have you just

17:05

here? It is. It's just like

17:07

people, when people like, go on

17:10

the macrobiotic diet. You know, like,

17:12

cool. H.L. also began

17:14

touting the benefits of

17:16

an odd exercise he

17:18

created called creeping. So I

17:20

recommend everyone creep. This is

17:23

where you stalk a

17:25

woman. Just keep fucking women

17:27

while you're married. And then

17:30

endlessly seed him. It

17:32

was basically crawling around on

17:35

the ground like a baby.

17:37

Quote, I'm a crank about

17:39

creeping, H.L. would

17:42

say and... Cleveland

17:45

once creeped for

17:48

startled journalists

17:51

around his dining

17:54

room table

17:56

while yelling,

17:58

yahoo! Wait,

18:06

you're down on your hands

18:08

and he's now do it.

18:10

Just do it. Just do

18:12

it. Do it real quick

18:14

Like for journalists like a

18:16

good one flash goes off

18:18

30 seconds into it Oh,

18:20

fuck. What the fuck? That

18:22

this is also the problem

18:24

is that Like this is

18:26

musk because it's when the

18:28

rich go. Oh no, it's

18:30

pretty straightforward. You just do

18:32

this and not like makes

18:34

you really help It's like

18:36

dude you're like you have

18:38

no actual medical insights You've

18:40

just come up with your

18:42

stupid shit and you're surrounded

18:44

by yes men and no

18:46

one is told you you're

18:48

an idiot. No one tells

18:50

you know anymore. No one

18:52

goes shut up. That's dumb.

18:54

Yes. I agree creeping,

18:57

which he basically crawling around on

18:59

the floor like a baby. I'm

19:01

a crank about creeping, H.O. would

19:04

say, and gleefully once creeped for

19:06

a startled journalist around his dining

19:08

table while yelling, yahoo! It's just

19:10

so insane! It has to be

19:13

on film! Someone like 50s, so

19:15

it's not on film, but Jesus

19:17

Christ! Jesus Christ. I mean the

19:19

reason I found out about this

19:22

guy was because I just came

19:24

across a photo of him doing

19:26

yoga and it was like the

19:29

richest guy in the world was

19:31

like doing yoga or something. I

19:33

was just like what the fuck

19:35

is happening? Well that is so

19:38

much more normal. But it's just

19:40

not something you see. No. Well,

19:42

that, that, if I saw that,

19:44

I'd be like, oh, cool. Well,

19:47

I was just like, I was

19:49

like, into Eastern medicine and, yeah,

19:51

but, you know, a spiritualist. So

19:53

you'd hope so, but no. But

19:56

no, instead, he was just like,

19:58

oh, fuck, that's awesome. In 1955,

20:00

tragedy struck the hunts when Lida

20:02

suffered a massive... stroke. H.L. charted

20:05

a private plane to fly the

20:07

unconscious Linda to the famous Mayo

20:09

Clinic in Minnesota, but they could

20:11

not save her. Two years after

20:14

Lida was buried, H.L. married Ruth

20:16

Ray. Hey. So I like that

20:18

he's capping himself at two. Yep.

20:21

Their children together were officially said

20:23

to be Ruth's from another relationship

20:25

who hl was happy to adopt

20:27

Oh, so they just wouldn't even

20:30

admit that yeah, yeah Many took

20:32

this as hl being incredibly kind

20:34

by adopting these kids. He was

20:36

showing the love he had for

20:39

Ruth Did he do you think

20:41

he did this because it made

20:43

him look good or because obviously

20:45

he's like I don't want to

20:48

admit that I fucking had both.

20:50

Yeah, yeah It wasn't until years

20:52

later that it came out that

20:54

Ruth kids were in fact H.L.'s

20:57

biological children. Yahoo! With his beautiful

20:59

new wife at his side H.L's

21:01

fax farm continued to grow. He

21:04

held parties for right-wing politicians and

21:06

famous anti-communist Hollywood stars like John

21:08

Wayne and Pat Boone. Of course

21:10

John Wayne was there. But soon

21:13

there was a dis- We gotta

21:15

fight these comies! And part of

21:17

the thing you've also got to

21:19

do is bang as many women

21:22

as possible. And what? John Wayne?

21:24

Oh yeah, I should admit that

21:26

I really have no issue with

21:28

physical abuse. Read that interview and

21:31

playboy or whatever. Didn't need to

21:33

say it, he did it on

21:35

set. Oh, I'm learning about myself.

21:37

But soon there was a disagreement

21:40

between H.L. and Smoot on programming

21:42

for fax forum. In order to

21:44

remain tax exempt, fax form had

21:46

to fax form was subjected to

21:49

taxes. H.L. fired smooth and replaced

21:51

fax forum with Lifeline, a new

21:53

organization that was unapologetically right-wing conservative,

21:56

or as H.L. preferred to say,

21:58

constructive. Yep. Nice. Nice. Yeah, I

22:00

like that. So they're gonna tax

22:02

us just get rid of it

22:05

and change his name. Yep. Yep.

22:07

Well, I would imagine that the

22:09

you probably I mean tax exemption

22:11

is huge. Well, but it sounds

22:14

like this will be taxed, but

22:16

he's just gonna fucking lean into

22:18

it now. Yeah, and probably profit

22:20

a lot off of that anyway,

22:23

but that tax exemption is big.

22:25

Yeah. Lifelian also

22:27

had a religious flavor that

22:29

fax forum didn't. This was

22:31

mainly due to Ruth's influence,

22:33

who convinced H.L. to hire

22:36

Christian fundamentalist minister for roles

22:38

both on the airwaves and

22:40

off many serving on a

22:42

board of advisors. So Ruth's

22:44

fucking fucked. Yeah, and also

22:46

so she's a she's a

22:48

just so where she was

22:50

a mistress who started banging

22:52

this guy 19 to have

22:55

his kids Was a mistress

22:57

for a couple decades and

22:59

then marries him, but she's

23:01

Christian Just so we're just

23:03

Yep, that's well, I mean

23:05

again imperfect messages H.L. who

23:07

was not a church goer

23:09

did not always get along

23:11

with these religious men. He

23:14

advised them that they shouldn't

23:16

align with white supremacist, but

23:18

nor should they shun them.

23:20

Well, I do think that's

23:22

fair. I mean, you know,

23:24

leave the door open. It's

23:26

like, they're people too. You

23:28

know, why would you, uh,

23:30

they, it's, it's... It's important

23:33

to just try to reach

23:35

everybody. The white supremacist are

23:37

also, they're a voting bloc.

23:39

Yeah, they're people, they want

23:41

to get there. Yeah, let's

23:43

hear what they have to

23:45

say. It's like Hillary said,

23:47

all lives matter. Yeah. They

23:50

should not support Jews, but

23:52

they should complement at least

23:54

one Jew on air, so

23:56

they will not be seen

23:58

as anti-Semitic. That's good to

24:00

do for sure. That's awesome.

24:02

And now it's our positive

24:04

Jew moment. That's right. This

24:06

Jew comes from us from

24:09

Long Island, New York. Wow,

24:11

have we got a Jew

24:13

for you? Breaking Jews. If

24:15

H.L. published something complementary about

24:17

a Jewish or black person,

24:19

he'd carry the article around

24:21

and whip it out when

24:23

he felt necessary to prove.

24:25

that whatever people were saying

24:28

about him, he was not

24:30

an anti-Semite or a racist. Can

24:32

you pull that? And I don't

24:34

know, it's like those guys who

24:36

walk around with the articles, like

24:38

the Constitution and their pants or

24:40

whatever. What do you mean? Of

24:43

course I love America. Look, I

24:45

have a flagpin. But it's also

24:47

remarkable because identity politics. and the

24:50

like they they've out they've have

24:52

outsmarted us for they like we're

24:55

out smartest for like a decade

24:57

where they were like racist you

24:59

got a bunch of black

25:01

people in the cabinet what

25:03

about this article yeah look

25:05

yeah the guy we got

25:07

to drop bombs in the

25:09

last administration was a black

25:11

man racist above all he

25:13

said communism must be linked

25:16

with evil and free enterprise

25:18

with good Once he tried

25:20

to convince one of his

25:22

on-air preachers, Wayne Poucher, that

25:24

since the Bible was a

25:26

bestseller, Poucher should try and

25:28

sell Bibles on air for

25:30

profit. These special Bibles would

25:33

be autographed by Poucher and,

25:35

on the cover, have a

25:37

lifeline broadcast schedule glued in.

25:40

Reverend Poucher said no. H.L.

25:42

constantly baraged poucher with tips

25:44

and demands, including demands such

25:47

as, quote, improve your addiction

25:49

on air and stop jazzing

25:52

up the hymns. Is there

25:54

a more old man thing

25:57

to say that stop jazzing

25:59

up? No, that's about it.

26:01

Quit jazzing up the hymns.

26:03

Good enough as it is.

26:05

Oh, fuck. The organ's enough.

26:08

The organ's the Lord's instrument.

26:10

Poucher mostly ignored H.L. and

26:12

did what he wanted, but

26:14

he decided that H.L. might

26:16

need some guidance to become

26:18

a good Christian soul. And

26:20

he invited H.L. to come

26:22

to his home and read

26:25

the Bible with him and

26:27

his children's... Bedside. H.L. Agree.

26:29

That's fucking creepy. No, it's

26:31

totally normal. I have an

26:33

old weird guy come by

26:35

and read the Bible with

26:37

you. Hello. Kids, this is,

26:39

well. Mind if I creep

26:42

while we do this? You

26:44

read a verse that I'll

26:46

creep a little bit. Yahoo.

26:48

All right. Here we are.

26:50

And the Lord has described

26:52

something that he could only

26:54

see in the eyes of

26:56

Jehovah. The witnesses were all

26:59

around. That's my Bible riffing,

27:01

by the way. That's good.

27:03

H.L. agreed. By the end

27:05

of the evening, . kid.

27:07

Flicking 60-year-old weird oil man

27:09

by your bedside, like sitting

27:11

on a stool. That's when

27:13

I started having nightmares. And

27:16

I'll read the next verse

27:18

to you, Gus. Could

27:20

I have a little more water?

27:22

My mouth gets so dry. The

27:24

end of the evening, H.L. was

27:26

on his knees in prayer and

27:29

tears are rolling down his face.

27:31

Oh boy. Oh, fuck me. No,

27:33

we don't want this bird. Oh,

27:35

this is like when the Hulk

27:37

eats the electrical cable. Striking? Well,

27:40

the iron was hot. Poucher drove

27:42

H.L. to his church that very

27:44

night and tried to convince him

27:46

to get baptized. H.L. told him

27:48

he wanted to, but he's afraid

27:50

God wouldn't forgive him for his

27:53

sins until he'd done some good.

27:55

Well, that part's true. Well, yeah.

27:57

Yeah, he knows he's a piece

27:59

of shit. Yeah, right. It's amazing.

28:01

It wasn't until H.L. started attending

28:03

church with Ruth that he really...

28:06

I got one of the nuns

28:08

pregnant. Sorry, I'm at all. Sorry,

28:10

I got all the nuns pregnant.

28:12

It wasn't until he started attending

28:14

church with Ruth that he really

28:17

jumped into religion or his version

28:19

of it. Right. They went to

28:21

first Baptist church, the world's oldest

28:23

Baptist church that boasted a ministry

28:25

containing Reverend Billy Graham and H.L.'s

28:27

favorite, a handsome young preacher named

28:30

Reverend W.A. Chriswell, like H.L., saw

28:32

Christianity in politics as totally fused,

28:34

once saying that if he had

28:36

a quote liberal hair on my

28:38

head, I'd pluck it out. This

28:40

was a really just take that

28:43

H.L. could get behind on his

28:45

71st birthday. He was baptized by

28:47

Chriswell with Ruth and their four

28:49

kids. I shot a load in

28:51

the water. This is how we

28:53

do it. The very idea of,

28:56

it's so amazing when like fundamentalists

28:58

or whatever, I mean, like, this

29:00

separation of church and state was

29:02

like a big component in all

29:04

of this. And the, well, isn't

29:07

that, isn't that the founding father's

29:09

shit? Yeah, but, you know. I

29:11

mean, but that was like part

29:13

of, I mean, I understand we've

29:15

abandoned everything, but it's the people

29:17

who hold the Constitution in their

29:20

pocket that fully ignored that part.

29:22

Like, Tom Cotton has the fucking

29:24

constitution in his pocket. Tom Cotton

29:26

is also like, if Jesus were

29:28

around, he'd be in the Senate.

29:30

Yeah, they're, yeah. They're liars as

29:33

much as they are diluted. The

29:35

line is really hard to track.

29:37

Big. H.L. and Chris will begin

29:39

working. If you're embracing Trump, it's

29:41

like, sorry, what's your fucking? No,

29:43

but he makes sense in a

29:46

biblical aspect. Yes, because they believe

29:48

that he is in the Bible.

29:50

Yeah, there's a guy just like

29:52

in the Bible. That was not

29:54

really the flawed messenger who comes.

29:57

Yeah, so it all makes sense.

29:59

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30:01

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38:07

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38:09

together to influence the election

38:11

of 1960. They back Lyndon

38:13

Johnson, and they hate JFK.

38:16

Chriswell is claiming from

38:18

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38:20

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38:22

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38:24

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38:26

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38:28

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38:30

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38:32

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38:34

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38:36

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38:39

appearances, so much so that one

38:41

paper asked him to... quote come

38:43

out big daddy to wherever you

38:45

are stop what's not what the

38:48

daddy's not the fuck are you

38:50

guys doing disgusting it's so weird

38:52

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38:55

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38:57

calling him daddy no and it

38:59

is this weird it is weird

39:01

it is sexual yeah it's a

39:04

weird little culty sexual thing hoe

39:06

eventually came out to say that

39:08

he'd only done it to help out

39:10

poor Lyndon When Johnson got

39:13

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39:15

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39:17

press conference and announced his

39:19

endorsement of the JFK Johnson

39:21

ticket, quote, I've decided to

39:23

vote for Kennedy since I

39:25

admire his father Joe Kennedy

39:27

who was a good businessman.

39:29

I refuse to believe that any

39:31

son of Joe Kennedy can be a

39:33

liberal. I mean, he is.

39:35

Well, yeah. But it's not a

39:38

Catholic. The National Democratic Party chairman

39:40

then immediately came out and said

39:42

that they did not accept H.L's

39:44

endorsement and wouldn't accept any money

39:46

from him. See, now why the

39:49

fuck can the Democratic Party of

39:51

today not say that shit? Because Clinton

39:53

turned them away from unions.

39:55

Soon after JFK won the

39:57

election H.L. self-published a novel.

39:59

he'd been writing. I can't

40:02

wait. Alpaca. In the nation,

40:04

in the novel. Alpaca. In

40:06

the novel, a nation called

40:08

Alpaca gives the most

40:10

votes to people who pay

40:12

the most taxes. Why did

40:14

he name it after Alpaca?

40:16

I don't know. That's super

40:18

weird. It's got to be

40:20

a reason. I don't know why.

40:23

Yeah, but it's like, it's like

40:25

you could call a country anything.

40:27

Alpaca. It's strange. It was that

40:30

or llama? I mean it is,

40:32

it's like, it's like, what if

40:34

a llama smoked weed? Alpaca! No

40:36

one receiving government assistance

40:38

could vote. When a reviewer

40:40

chided H.L. for writing about

40:43

a quote, fascist democracy, H.L.

40:45

wrote to the reviewer in

40:47

earnest saying, you are the

40:49

only one who really understood

40:51

what I was getting at. That

40:53

is a crazy thing, the show. That's

40:55

so fucking none. You get me. You

40:57

understand what I'm going for. You called

41:00

me fashion. You get it? Yes, I'm

41:02

a fashion. Yes, that would be America.

41:04

That's alpaca. Hmm. Also in the novel

41:06

was a love affair between a man who

41:09

was greatly resembled the younger H.L.

41:11

and an opera singer. Okay, sure.

41:13

This causes people to start talking.

41:15

As the real H.L. had recently

41:17

begun sponsoring an opera singer who

41:19

was living in Dallas. Oh, no.

41:21

They're just friends. No bullshit.

41:23

He insists they're just friends. No,

41:26

how old? Still, how old? Still,

41:28

how old? His interest in opera

41:30

grew until he paid to stage

41:33

a production of the Barber of

41:35

Seville on the Dallas Fairgrounds. Oh,

41:37

this is like, uh... This is

41:40

like, what's the horse and well, citizen

41:42

cane based on William Randall? This is

41:44

like that, right? Where it's like you

41:46

are just like, well, you want an

41:48

opera? I'm a weird old man with

41:50

endless money. Did you see Malanias getting

41:53

a documentary? Yeah, but that's 40 million

41:55

dollars. Yeah, but that's just a, it's

41:57

a griff to make, it's like a,

41:59

yeah. Like, imagine. All these people

42:01

are. I love documentaries. Yeah. I'll

42:04

tell you what, there's not one

42:06

I'm skipping by faster than the

42:08

Malania documentary. Well, if they told

42:11

the truth, that you came here

42:13

as a sex worker, then it would be

42:15

a whole everything. Okay, so,

42:17

people are excited to see

42:19

an opera. For many Texans,

42:21

it'll be the first one

42:23

they see. It's wonderful, but

42:26

everyone got very confused during

42:28

the intermission. Because H.L. got

42:30

up in front of the crowd and

42:32

begins shilling for the

42:34

gastromagic. The gastromagic?

42:37

Yeah, that was the thing

42:39

from the last episode, the

42:41

hell thing. Oh. It's the

42:43

concoction of vitamins. Right, right.

42:45

He had employees fan out

42:47

through the audience and hand

42:49

out samples as he read

42:51

from a sermon that would

42:53

soon feature on an episode

42:55

of lifeline. This is there are

42:57

no lines. He has too much

42:59

money. This is so Trumpian

43:01

though the handing out the

43:04

doing it's selling gesture magic

43:06

it is Yeah, it is

43:08

like media chaos advertising chaos

43:10

Just where you're like we're

43:12

nothing like the way that I

43:15

mean he was it sell steak

43:17

so whatever yeah, when they were

43:20

like avanca's handbags are like yeah,

43:22

that's what it is while people

43:24

enjoy the opera The commercial

43:26

in the middle, you know,

43:28

notwithstanding, no one seemed to

43:31

like Alpaca. So according to

43:33

H.L. Hunt, biographer Jerome to

43:35

see. Did you see Malanias

43:37

getting a documentary? Yeah, but

43:39

that's 40 million dollars. Yeah,

43:41

but that's just a, it's

43:43

a grift to make, it's

43:46

like a, yeah, I know.

43:48

You're bribing. But, but it

43:50

is, it is like, imagine.

43:52

All these people are. I

43:54

love documentaries. Yeah. Well, if they told the

43:56

truth that you can't hear as a sex worker, then it

43:58

would be a whole other thing. right now.

44:00

Okay so people are excited

44:02

to see an opera. The

44:05

first for many Texans it'll

44:07

be the first one they

44:10

see. It's wonderful but everyone

44:12

got very confused during the

44:15

intermission because L got H.L. got

44:17

up in front of the crowd

44:19

and begins chilling for

44:21

the Castro magic. The Castro

44:23

magic? Yeah, that was the thing

44:26

from the last episode, the health

44:28

thing. Oh. It's the concoction of

44:30

vitamins and vitamins. Right, right. He

44:33

had employees fan out through the

44:35

audience and hand out samples as

44:38

he read from a sermon that

44:40

would soon feature on an episode

44:42

of lifeline. This is, there are

44:45

no lines. He has too much money.

44:47

This is so Trumpian though. the

44:49

hamming out, the doing, it's

44:51

selling gesture magic. It is,

44:53

yeah, it is like media

44:55

chaos, advertising chaos. Just where

44:57

you're like, where nothing, like,

44:59

the way that, I mean, he,

45:01

what was it? Sell steak, so

45:03

whatever, yeah, exactly, yeah, when they

45:06

were like, like, avancas handbags are

45:08

like the best. That's what it

45:10

is. While people enjoyed the opera,

45:12

the commercial in the middle. You

45:14

know, notwithstanding, no one

45:17

seemed to like Alpaca.

45:19

So according to H.L.

45:21

Hunt, biographer Jerome Tassil,

45:24

H.L. quote, began shipping

45:26

huge boxes of the

45:28

books to unsuspecting citizens

45:31

all over the globe.

45:33

That's fucking awesome. So college

45:36

librarians, senators, political figures around the

45:38

world. He's just like golden tickets

45:40

books. And where you just all

45:43

of a sudden, like, the fuck

45:45

is this? This is crazy. What's

45:47

up? I guess it's about a

45:50

country made of animals and like.

45:52

Wait, there's a letter here. Dear

45:54

reader, I think you'll really

45:56

enjoy this book. H. L. Hunt? Not

45:59

that oil guy? Yeah, but

46:01

he's also into llamas

46:03

now and alpacas He

46:05

wants a country of

46:08

alpacas book sucks Let

46:10

the alpacas lead us.

46:13

I don't think that's what

46:15

he's saying. I think so

46:17

I don't believe so He

46:20

wrote his own little jingle

46:22

to the tune of how

46:24

much is that doggy in

46:27

the window? The one that

46:29

says all the smarter things

46:31

you're being sued The doggy

46:34

window people are furious. He

46:36

had his daughters sing it at

46:38

a book signing he arranged for

46:41

himself It's like It is if

46:43

like Rupert Murdoch fucked Trump. I

46:45

mean it's crazy. It's crazy.

46:48

It's crazy So for some

46:50

reason it didn't help sales of

46:52

the book for some reason

46:54

But what it did do

46:56

is make H.L. look like

46:58

a joke. Yes, good. Political

47:00

writer William Buckley, a one-time

47:02

writer at fax farm, wrote,

47:05

quote, the capitalist cause would

47:07

be greatly enhanced if H.L.

47:09

Hunt was a socialist. At

47:11

that. Oh, man, that is

47:13

so bad. That is so

47:15

bad. As Kennedy entered his

47:17

30 years president, H.L. knew

47:20

he'd been wrong to support

47:22

him. Most because Kennedy had

47:24

begun calling for doing away with

47:26

the oil depletion allowance, which would

47:28

end up costing H.L. money in

47:30

Texas. So all oil Texas air

47:32

and oil barons were upset with

47:35

Kennedy. So it gets to the

47:37

point where JFK decides that he

47:39

should go onto Texas and put

47:41

on a friendly face. Okay. Oh

47:43

shit. As JFK's visit to Dallas

47:45

grew closer, Lifeline aired more and

47:47

more conspiracies against Kennedy, accusing him

47:50

of being a secret communist infiltrator.

47:52

On the morning of November 22nd,

47:54

1963, Lifeline warned its listeners about

47:56

a leftist Kennedy plot to take

47:58

away their guns. Alex Jones. A

48:01

little bit, yeah, yeah. But there were

48:03

other guys. This time in Dallas, in

48:05

Texas, it is full of right

48:07

wing hysteria. Right. Like it is, it

48:09

is more than any place in the

48:12

country. It is off the fucking charts.

48:14

Yeah, I mean, when you watch that

48:16

video, you're like, oh shit, I mean,

48:18

why would even do that? So

48:21

the taking of the guns would

48:23

keep them from rising up against

48:25

their oppressors and H.L. Sun Bunker

48:27

also paid for a huge newspaper

48:30

ad in the Dallas News criticizing

48:32

the president. H.L. and his oilmen

48:34

friends made sure that the atmosphere

48:36

was as unwelcome as possible once

48:39

JFK landed in Texas. And that

48:41

was very unwelcoming, it turns out. But

48:43

I mean, we've never gotten into this,

48:45

but would, I mean, do you think that

48:48

was, I mean, that wasn't what got JFK

48:50

killed. No, no, there's

48:52

a lot. The

48:55

government agencies

48:57

is. I think it

49:00

was McDonald's.

49:02

The hamburgler, like studying

49:04

a rifle, burglar, now.

49:07

This visit to Dallas

49:09

would obviously be the

49:11

end for JFK. He

49:14

was shot. Before this,

49:16

yeah, he wanted John.

49:18

So now he gets

49:21

his guy. I got

49:23

Johnson. Um, Jeff gave

49:26

a shot 10 blocks

49:28

away from H.L's office.

49:30

After his death, a senator

49:33

in D.C. said to reporters

49:35

that quote, H.L. Hunt has

49:37

to bear a lot for

49:39

the onus because of the

49:42

fanatical broadcasts he sponsors. If

49:44

any was responsible, he's killed

49:46

by Jack Ruby. When Ruby's

49:48

pockets were searched, they contained

49:51

two lifeline radio scripts. When

49:53

he was asked about them,

49:55

Ruby said he'd gotten them

49:57

in a package of H-L-A.

50:00

food. An Al package. It was

50:02

found, it was also found that

50:04

Ruby had visited the office of

50:07

Lamar Hunt right before the assassination

50:09

to drop off a woman for

50:11

a job interview. Also weird. So

50:14

a lot of people now blame

50:16

H.L. for all the rhetoric that

50:19

leads to JFK's death. Okay. And

50:21

the FBI convinces him to leave

50:23

Dallas and go into hiding. Okay.

50:26

I got hiding pregnant. He goes

50:28

to stay at the Bayflower Hotel

50:30

in Washington DC. Nice and private.

50:33

It's just, if anything, yeah, no,

50:35

go to DC. Without question, that's

50:38

where you could kind of be

50:40

covert. So this makes it more

50:42

of a target. It's so dangerous

50:45

for him to be there that

50:47

the FBI told them that it

50:49

would just be safer to go

50:52

back to Dallas. Okay. A security

50:54

detail was set up around H.L's

50:57

home until he ordered them to

50:59

leave. So now, as he's focusing

51:01

more on politics, his H.L.H. Products

51:04

Food Company and writing an unsuccessful

51:06

sequel to Alpaca. He wrote another

51:08

one. Alpaca, too. Alpaca, too. Alpaca,

51:11

man. Writing another. It's awesome. Now

51:13

his sons are starting to come

51:16

into their business, you know, Bunker

51:18

who... Is a dweeb. But idolizes

51:20

his dad, like, you know, even

51:23

though he's constantly called a fucking

51:25

idiot by him. He doesn't let

51:27

Blown all his fortune on dry

51:30

oil well stop him from trying

51:32

to impress Daddy. Bunker gets in

51:35

his head that the next huge

51:37

oil find would take place in

51:39

the Middle East. Libya. Oh boy.

51:42

and using H.L's contacts, the bunker

51:44

is granted the drilling rights. Wow.

51:46

to Libya. To all of it?

51:49

Yeah. This time he would show

51:51

H.L. that he wasn't all that

51:54

dimwitted. And then Bunker finds one

51:56

of the largest untapped oil reserves

51:58

in the world, the sorrier oil

52:01

field. It was more oil than

52:03

Hasey had ever found, producing a

52:05

hundred thousand barrels of oil a

52:08

day. Bunker is on track to

52:10

become as rich as his father.

52:13

He follows his dad's political footsteps

52:15

supporting white supremacist George Wallace for

52:17

president. Oh, yoy, yoy. Along with

52:20

daddy, obviously. He also inherited his

52:22

father's view on Jews being a

52:24

different breed than Christians, but still

52:27

hired them in his businesses, as

52:29

he thought they were, quote, smart

52:32

and cunning, and said that he,

52:34

quote, never took a Jew. Never

52:36

took a gift, never took a

52:39

gift, Jew in the mouth. Oh,

52:41

Jesus Christ. I mean, just despicable.

52:43

Yeah. It really is like, the

52:46

way that we allow it, not

52:48

only allow it, but it's like

52:51

a theme. Yeah, it's like the

52:53

theme, the theme of this country

52:55

is this. Yeah, it is. Herbert

52:58

was bookish and focused on school

53:00

and he gets a degree in

53:02

geology, which H.L. laughed at. Have

53:05

you even read Al Paca one

53:07

and two? One of the reasons

53:10

you get a degree in ge-

53:12

Yeah, I would get- It's about

53:14

fucking oil. Imagine it would be

53:17

helpful. Jesus Christ. So he goes

53:19

into oil, just like Bunker, and

53:21

Herbert and Bunker worked together quite

53:24

a bit. In 1970, a policeman

53:26

pulled over a guy for running

53:29

a stop sign. When the policeman

53:31

walked up to the car, he

53:33

sees inside several pieces of equipment,

53:36

which it turns out are supplies

53:38

for wiretapping. The man who had

53:40

been pulled over... It was a

53:43

private detective, admitted that that is

53:45

exactly what the equipment was. That

53:48

guy was good. By the way,

53:50

glad you hired that guy. And

53:52

he'd been hired by Bunker and

53:55

Herbert Hunt. When you hire a

53:57

wiretap guy. Is one of the

53:59

first things you assume that if

54:02

the wiretap guy gets caught he's

54:04

not going to say it's for

54:07

wiretapping? Or for who's for? Yes,

54:09

officer, this is to wiretap on

54:11

behalf of my very rich clients.

54:14

Huh? No, I was just going

54:16

to say you kind of wrote

54:18

for that. No, it's for Booker

54:21

and Herbert Huntine for what? I'm

54:23

wiretapping their political enemies. These wires?

54:26

What are they? I'm doing illegal

54:28

surveillance for the Hunt brothers. I

54:30

thought you were like a radio

54:33

guy. No, I'm committing crimes for

54:35

the Hunts. Just assuming you're some

54:38

radio guy. I'm trying to tape

54:40

everyone. Looks like you took a

54:42

metal detector. We're bribing the world.

54:45

Wait, what are you talking about?

54:47

We're going to take down the

54:49

government. In your car? Yes. I

54:52

was just going to say you

54:54

got it next time, make sure

54:57

you fully stop at the stop

54:59

at the stop sign. Okay. No,

55:01

you just said you work for

55:04

H.L. Hunt and his kids. Yes.

55:06

So you want your wiretapping people?

55:08

A little? A little, man. What

55:11

do you mean? Maybe. Jesus Christ,

55:13

did you just said it all?

55:16

Go, go. You're driving. I was

55:18

hoping that would make you go

55:20

away. No, no, I'm here. I'm

55:23

tapping your house. All right. Get

55:25

out of the, obviously, get out

55:27

of the car. We're going to

55:30

beat you. Herbert Bunker

55:32

and Herbert at use was

55:34

unbelievably thorough if they'd use

55:36

his services to listen in

55:38

on phone calls made by

55:40

top brass in their dad's

55:42

hunt oil company you just

55:44

get their own cousin there

55:46

wiretapping their cousin but you

55:48

this is it's like it

55:50

just breeds the worst parts

55:52

of you these this just it's

55:55

just it's a cancer They

55:57

can, if they can, if they

55:59

can learn what the top

56:01

guy at their dad's company is

56:03

doing, then they can make

56:05

deals or whatever to impress

56:07

their dad. But it is a,

56:10

money is a cancer on

56:12

the soul of society. Yeah, it

56:14

is. Without question. It's awful.

56:16

They're also tapping H.L's private secretary

56:19

and possibly their half-brother Ray.

56:21

I was actually wiretapping myself, dad.

56:23

I can't be trusted. And

56:25

by the way, here's the

56:27

dossier, what I was talking about.

56:29

Some of it's pretty scandalous.

56:31

Ugger said that they only did

56:34

it to protect their dad's

56:36

money because people he worked with

56:38

were stealing tens of millions

56:40

from him. This is part of

56:43

the advantage to having 15

56:45

children, is that you do actually

56:47

create this culture where your

56:49

kids are like going to...

56:51

overly defend you because that's the

56:54

only way to get a

56:56

slice of your affection and love.

56:58

Yeah. Pretty cool. Association at

57:00

Hunt Oil said this was all

57:02

absurd and that the only

57:04

person stealing from H.L. was H.L.

57:07

so he could pay less

57:09

in taxes. The story of

57:11

the Hunt Brothers going behind the

57:13

backs of the family and

57:15

employees who had worked for H.L.

57:18

for decades got so big

57:20

that Bunker and Herbert ended up

57:22

hiring a public relations specialist

57:24

who quickly got them to pose

57:27

for a happy portrait with

57:29

the whole extended family Ray included.

57:31

God. Unreal man. Unreal. The

57:33

wiretapping case would come to

57:35

court five years later with the

57:37

Hunt Brothers main defense being

57:39

that they didn't even know wiretapping

57:42

was illegal. That's fair. We

57:44

plead dumb as fuck. Hey, what

57:46

are you plead? I'm a

57:48

fucking idiot. I'm a dummy. Quiet.

57:51

You're out of the boys

57:53

plead stupid. You know, I

57:55

don't know. Shut up. Your Honor,

57:57

the boys are very stupid.

57:59

I don't know. I mean look

58:01

at them. Look at them.

58:04

Look at these idiots. They're empty

58:06

headed. I'm raised by a

58:08

rich man who crawls around creeping,

58:10

singing Yahoo. Your Honor? You're

58:12

not let to raise your hand.

58:15

Your Honor, I'd also like

58:17

to add, a blin-blin-blin-blin, a

58:19

blin-blin-blin, a blin-blin, a blin-blin, a-bin-b'a-bin.

58:21

That's not a defense. By

58:23

the way, the new defense, I

58:26

don't remember. That's what

58:28

they always say now. Yeah, I don't

58:30

recall that. I don't know. Maybe

58:32

a dead I don't recall it The

58:35

president of the Detech agency Bunker had

58:37

hired to place the wiretaps said he

58:39

told Bunker no uncertain terms That if

58:42

they got caught they could be in

58:44

trouble criminally and civilly. So wait a

58:46

minute when I got pulled over though

58:49

I was basically what should I have

58:51

said? Should I said no to them?

58:53

I don't understand the cop he pulled

58:56

me over I didn't know what to

58:58

do. I was in a panic

59:00

But the guy's basically saying that if

59:02

his if his detective gets pulled over

59:05

that he's gonna rat on him, which

59:07

is what happened. Yeah. But also, although

59:09

what? Why hire that guy? But can

59:12

I also just say like if you

59:14

have a bunch of wire timing equipment,

59:16

drive better? Don't look. Have your tail

59:19

lights all in order. Back in the

59:21

day. Yeah, you hit every stop. Yeah,

59:23

or a body. Or a ha. What's

59:26

up? If you got a body in

59:28

the car. Full stops. Signal when

59:30

you turn right, the whole shebang, make

59:32

sure your, make sure your brake lights

59:35

are checked. I don't think we're saying

59:37

the same thing. Don't let the blood

59:39

drip out the back, the whole shebang.

59:42

I don't know if... Why would you

59:44

hire a wiretap guy when one of

59:46

the guarantees is that he's gonna tell

59:49

on you? I don't know. Like I'd

59:51

be like, wait, I'll pay more to

59:53

not. Can you just be like you

59:56

worked for the phone company first?

59:58

I'm one of the richest richest guys.

1:00:00

Yeah, I love wires. It's for my

1:00:02

girlfriend and I... I work for John

1:00:05

Morse. Have you heard of ASMR? porn.

1:00:07

It's weird. ASMA porn. Uh, so Bunker

1:00:09

maintained that he was being unfairly targeted

1:00:12

by the feds. Hilarious. Because he hadn't

1:00:14

allowed members of the CIA to use

1:00:16

his business in Libya to spy on

1:00:19

Mohamar Gaddafi. Wow. Well, that guy will

1:00:21

turn it. That'll be fun. He also

1:00:24

believed he's being picked on for

1:00:26

his conservative political beliefs. Ruth. Stepbrother Ray's

1:00:28

mother. even came to

1:00:30

their defense and told the

1:00:32

court, quote, I didn't do

1:00:34

anything for them. So Bunker

1:00:36

and Herbert are looking at

1:00:38

30 years since counts. There's

1:00:41

six counts of wiretapping, so

1:00:43

30 years sentence. But in

1:00:45

the end, the court decided

1:00:47

that as they had been

1:00:49

trying to help their father

1:00:51

and didn't know. that what

1:00:53

they were doing was a

1:00:55

federal crime they would be

1:00:57

acquitted oh fuck me straight

1:01:00

up acquitted that's not a

1:01:02

thing how many times I

1:01:04

mean just on fucking TV

1:01:06

shows or it's not you

1:01:08

can't say I didn't know

1:01:10

it was a crazy that's

1:01:12

not you're not allowed to

1:01:14

enter that plea for a

1:01:16

reason it's not a thing

1:01:19

if you if that plea

1:01:21

was an option yeah literally

1:01:23

everyone everybody that would it

1:01:25

be it without question How

1:01:27

do you play? I didn't

1:01:29

know. I don't know. Get

1:01:31

out of here. What about

1:01:33

you? I didn't know. The

1:01:35

detectives that placed the wiretaps

1:01:37

went to prison for three

1:01:40

years. That's, it's, it's shocking.

1:01:42

Shocking. Shocking. This is just

1:01:44

American in that shell. Yeah,

1:01:46

it is. The rich have

1:01:48

rules and then you have

1:01:50

some. Lamar was less involved

1:01:52

in the business intrigue and

1:01:54

became obsessed with sports. He's

1:01:56

no athlete. But he loved

1:01:59

to watch football. Okay. In

1:02:01

1959, 27-year-old Lamar created the

1:02:03

American Football League. Oh my

1:02:05

god. Oh my god. Wait

1:02:07

a minute. Uh huh. Wait

1:02:09

a minute. Yeah. Yeah, you

1:02:11

know this is going. He

1:02:13

also created his own team

1:02:15

within the league, the Kansas

1:02:18

City Chiefs. Lamar. Oh my

1:02:20

god. Oh my god. But

1:02:22

as much money as Lamar

1:02:24

poured into the team. Oh

1:02:26

my god. They could not

1:02:28

improve. I didn't even think

1:02:30

about this. H.L. told the

1:02:32

son that he was playing,

1:02:34

not working, and it was

1:02:37

reported that Lamar's team was

1:02:39

costing him $1 million a

1:02:41

year, but he stuck with

1:02:43

it, and slowly the Chiefs

1:02:45

improved. Lamar also bought a

1:02:47

team in the North American

1:02:49

Soccer League, the Dallas Tornado,

1:02:51

and helped start the World

1:02:53

Championship Tennis Tournament. In 1970,

1:02:56

Lamar won his greatest achievement

1:02:58

yet, when his Kansas City

1:03:00

Chiefs won the Super Bowl.

1:03:02

Lamar actually coined the name

1:03:04

Super Bowl inspired by a

1:03:06

toy. His kid's been playing

1:03:08

with a Super Bowl. He

1:03:10

was instrumental in the merger

1:03:12

between the AFL and the

1:03:15

NFL in the same year.

1:03:17

Oh my god. Okay, listen,

1:03:19

listen, listen, listen, to me.

1:03:21

If you enjoy this show,

1:03:23

take your glasses off. If

1:03:25

you enjoy this show. We've

1:03:27

done this with cores. We've

1:03:29

done this with many things.

1:03:31

The chiefs, you cannot support

1:03:34

the Kansas City Chiefs. The

1:03:36

name is disrespectful. Yes. The

1:03:38

tomahawk chop that you continue

1:03:40

to do despite the outcries

1:03:42

of people who are offended

1:03:44

by it for good reason.

1:03:46

You continue to do it.

1:03:48

You are founded on this.

1:03:50

You cannot. You cannot. Look,

1:03:53

relocate your brain. You can't.

1:03:55

You can't keep doing this.

1:03:57

David Keckner, huh? David Keckner.

1:03:59

We love you. But stop

1:04:01

it. But even Patrick Mahomes

1:04:03

would say, look, at this

1:04:05

point, I wouldn't even support

1:04:07

us. I mean, we are

1:04:09

found it like, we're in

1:04:12

this organization, it's like flaming

1:04:14

dog shit in a bag.

1:04:16

It's so funny when they

1:04:18

got rid of the end

1:04:20

racism thing at the end

1:04:22

of the, at the end

1:04:24

of the, you know, what's

1:04:26

a nightmare? how the NFL

1:04:28

had painted themselves into a

1:04:31

corner with that. Yeah. And

1:04:33

like, removing that was going

1:04:35

to be really tough. Yeah.

1:04:37

And then they did and

1:04:39

nobody really gave a shit.

1:04:41

It was kind of the

1:04:43

last remaining relic of the

1:04:45

George Floyd murder. Yeah. It

1:04:47

was like that was kind

1:04:50

of the last one. And

1:04:52

it kind of was so...

1:04:54

It really was interesting to

1:04:56

go like officially nothing changed.

1:04:58

Yeah, that's right. Well, no,

1:05:00

cops got more money. While

1:05:02

his kids are up proving

1:05:04

themselves, H.L., who is now

1:05:06

old, was becoming a bit

1:05:08

more self-conscious. He became terrified

1:05:11

of the idea that people

1:05:13

would think he was a

1:05:15

foolish old man and would

1:05:17

frequently corner employees in the

1:05:19

office and demand to know

1:05:21

if they thought he was

1:05:23

silly. You

1:05:25

got a weird old man

1:05:28

stopping you for that. You're

1:05:30

doing creeping. Yahoo! Excuse me,

1:05:32

excuse me. Can I ask

1:05:34

you a question? Yeah, go

1:05:36

ahead. Yeah, you work at

1:05:38

this company, right? Yeah, yeah.

1:05:40

She doesn't come across a

1:05:43

bit silly at times. Yeah,

1:05:45

like a lot, yeah. Gafide.

1:05:47

What? Yeah, oh my God.

1:05:49

I wasn't silly. Are you

1:05:51

the fucking Emperor from Star

1:05:53

Wars? Oh, I don't know

1:05:55

what exactly you. But I...

1:05:58

I'm not a chili. You

1:06:00

really agree. Yes, I can

1:06:02

still shoot a load. Okay,

1:06:04

please get away from him.

1:06:06

And I'll make him another

1:06:08

boy. I'm good, thank you.

1:06:10

His life and opinions continue

1:06:13

to be his favorite subject

1:06:15

and he published two autobiographies

1:06:17

within which he made several

1:06:19

false claims about his lineage

1:06:21

and never once mentioned Frania

1:06:23

or their children. The newly

1:06:25

baptized Christian also glossed over

1:06:28

the blame he faced for

1:06:30

Kennedy's assassination as well as

1:06:32

gambling. On November 29th 1974

1:06:34

H.L. died 85 years of

1:06:36

complications from cancer and pneumonia.

1:06:38

He left long term. They

1:06:40

were so afraid of the

1:06:43

U.S. crumbling to atheistic influences

1:06:45

that they were worried their

1:06:47

paper money would be one

1:06:49

day worthless. So now they're

1:06:51

they're they're they're the right-wing

1:06:53

Crazy conspiracy guys. Yeah, but

1:06:55

they're super rich. Yeah, right

1:06:58

yeah So they're gonna get

1:07:00

shit done you got to

1:07:02

drink this silver So to

1:07:04

preserve the wealth in power

1:07:06

they needed something like silver

1:07:08

and in 1970 even had

1:07:10

a chance to grieve H.

1:07:13

L. No we haven't he's

1:07:15

gone. Yeah, that's fine In

1:07:17

1975, Bunker and Erbert took

1:07:19

delivery of 25 million ounces

1:07:21

of silver. The Hunt Brothers

1:07:23

were obsessed with silver and

1:07:25

they discussed silver all day.

1:07:28

Every day, according to a

1:07:30

colleague, soon they had 55

1:07:32

million ounces of silver in

1:07:34

their possession, almost one-tenth of

1:07:36

the world's supply. Holy shit!

1:07:38

To hide this massive amount

1:07:40

of silver, which is worth

1:07:43

about 300 million, so about

1:07:45

two billion today. They decided

1:07:47

it needed to be taken

1:07:49

to Switzerland. Sure. So they

1:07:51

hired three, 707s, to take

1:07:53

the silver to Switzerland and

1:07:55

12. cowboys to guard it.

1:07:58

Well, look, I was gonna

1:08:00

let you just say details,

1:08:02

but. Come on. I'm doing

1:08:04

lassos. So it gets to

1:08:06

Switzerland safely. They almost ran

1:08:08

out of space to store

1:08:10

it. Word got out that

1:08:13

a huge cache of silver

1:08:15

was owned by one family,

1:08:17

which causes a panic in

1:08:19

commodities. It seems like one

1:08:21

family is going to corner

1:08:23

the world supply silver. Which

1:08:25

is not great. So people

1:08:28

all over the world start

1:08:30

buying as much as they

1:08:32

can, which leads to silver

1:08:34

prices soaring. Oh, they soar.

1:08:36

Bunker and Herbert are now

1:08:38

thrilled, right? Yeah. And Bunker

1:08:40

makes trips to the Middle

1:08:43

East. And to give men

1:08:45

sheiks and kings to start

1:08:47

buying silver, which makes the

1:08:49

price go up higher. Margaret

1:08:51

Hunt and Silver Bubble. Yeah.

1:08:53

Margaret Hunt and several other

1:08:55

members of the Hunt family

1:08:58

are now annoyed with Bunker

1:09:00

and Herbert's silver obsession, which

1:09:02

they think is leading to

1:09:04

them to neglect the oil

1:09:06

business. What a beautiful family

1:09:08

you've created. What a lovely

1:09:10

group of people you've created.

1:09:13

It's beautiful. They have so

1:09:15

much money tied up in

1:09:17

silver that the Hunts have

1:09:19

been unable to obtain money

1:09:21

for new oil leases. It's

1:09:23

just, I mean, but we've

1:09:25

all had that family dinner

1:09:28

table conversation. Yeah, I mean,

1:09:30

we've all been there. Where

1:09:32

you're kind of just going

1:09:34

like, oh, honey, I'm worried

1:09:36

we're neglecting the oil. Working

1:09:38

with wealthy Arab partners, they

1:09:40

ordered enough silver to cause

1:09:43

a real panic and artificially

1:09:45

drive up the price. The

1:09:47

Hunt Brothers attempt to corner

1:09:49

the silver market, made silver

1:09:51

jump from $6 an ounce

1:09:53

to $50 dollars an ounce.

1:09:56

It's now so expensive that

1:09:58

Tiffany's takes out an ad

1:10:00

in the New York Times

1:10:02

to shame the hunts. You

1:10:04

gotta be. You made Tiffany's

1:10:07

mad. For Tiffany's to just

1:10:09

be like, we are shaming

1:10:11

you. Tiffany's? People begin melting

1:10:13

down family silver to sell.

1:10:15

Burglaries. We really are incapable

1:10:17

of handling much. We can't

1:10:19

we can't handle we can't

1:10:21

like we we can't handle

1:10:23

the idea of money we

1:10:26

really can't we can't process

1:10:28

the idea that but at

1:10:30

least like silver is a

1:10:32

it's finite so I'm not

1:10:34

justifying this but again it's

1:10:36

shiny so it's like who

1:10:38

gives a fuck it's actually

1:10:40

nothing it's there's no point

1:10:43

to it at all it's

1:10:45

the money the actual dollar

1:10:47

bills is even dumber yeah

1:10:49

because you're just kind of

1:10:51

like this bizarre thing of

1:10:53

like, I mean, it's just

1:10:55

fucking some, we're just printing

1:10:57

it there as much as

1:11:00

you want as possible. Yeah.

1:11:02

And yet everyone's life will

1:11:04

be ruined over it. It's

1:11:06

like, what's the difference in

1:11:08

Bitcoin and silver? Silver's just

1:11:10

a thing that we decided

1:11:12

was valuable. Yes. Which is

1:11:14

what we did with Bitcoin.

1:11:16

Yep. It's and same

1:11:19

with goal like we just

1:11:21

decided that was gonna be

1:11:23

more well it was like

1:11:25

wasn't it when they just

1:11:27

sort of when the first

1:11:29

time the fucking The explorers

1:11:31

or whatever the fucking villagers

1:11:33

saw it. I think it

1:11:35

has more scientific properties in

1:11:37

a way like whatever what

1:11:39

they were like able to

1:11:42

build shields or or yeah

1:11:44

or something but still it's

1:11:46

not worth that much no

1:11:48

compared to other and I

1:11:50

also think it was just

1:11:52

that it was shiny yeah

1:11:54

I think that it was

1:11:56

shiny and they were like

1:11:58

pretty it's pretty yeah and

1:12:00

then you're just like my

1:12:02

wife wants it kill all

1:12:04

these people yeah so people

1:12:06

are melting done So there's

1:12:08

burglaries are increasing all over

1:12:10

the US. And the brothers

1:12:12

run out of liquid cash

1:12:14

to buy more. So they

1:12:17

borrow. To buy more silver.

1:12:19

That other mines. They borrow

1:12:21

a lot. What are we

1:12:23

talking? In early 1980, the

1:12:25

Hunt Brothers owned one third

1:12:27

of all the silver in

1:12:29

the world not owned by

1:12:31

governments. Wow. It's worth tens

1:12:33

of billions of dollars. Wow.

1:12:35

After seeing what the Hunt

1:12:37

Brothers are up to, Commodity

1:12:39

Exchange Incorporated, Comex, introduced silver

1:12:41

rule number seven. This made

1:12:43

it much more difficult for

1:12:45

the brothers to borrow from

1:12:47

brokerage firms in order to

1:12:50

buy silver. Banks pull back.

1:12:52

And the Hunts begin struggling

1:12:54

to meet their margin calls.

1:12:56

Then, silver prices begin to

1:12:58

dip lower. And on March

1:13:00

27th. 1980, which is a

1:13:02

day that would become known

1:13:04

as Silver Thursday. The inability

1:13:06

of the brothers to meet

1:13:08

a margin call led to

1:13:10

the price of silver plummeting

1:13:12

to under $11 an ounce.

1:13:14

Their assets in the billions

1:13:16

the day before now cost

1:13:18

them billions in debt. Not

1:13:20

only were Bunker and Herbert

1:13:22

now bankrupt, their scheme had

1:13:25

put several banks in danger

1:13:27

of going bankrupt. There's some

1:13:29

good news. To stop this

1:13:31

from happening, the hunts were

1:13:33

given a 1.1 billion line

1:13:35

of credit so that they

1:13:37

could meet their margins. Of

1:13:39

course. Yeah, why, why, I

1:13:41

mean, why? Well because they've...

1:13:43

Their gamble is so huge

1:13:45

that now I can take

1:13:47

down banks. I think they

1:13:49

have to be saved. But

1:13:51

why not just give the

1:13:53

money to the banks and

1:13:55

fuck the hunts? Yeah, also

1:13:57

it's like you've got to

1:14:00

just let... eventually just be

1:14:02

like, hey, you made poor

1:14:04

decisions. I'm sorry. It's bad.

1:14:06

But it's not only the

1:14:08

civil market that hunts after...

1:14:10

about. The price of oil

1:14:12

was dropping and they neglected

1:14:14

their oil business as they

1:14:16

were going after silver. By

1:14:18

1988 the brothers had declared

1:14:20

bankruptcy in order to pay

1:14:22

tens of millions in fines.

1:14:24

Bunker quote a billion ain't

1:14:26

what it used to be.

1:14:28

Dude what that is okay

1:14:30

you get it though. In

1:14:32

2008 I remember hearing comedians

1:14:35

say a million isn't what

1:14:37

it used to be. Yeah.

1:14:39

And that felt difficult to

1:14:41

hear. Hearing that in the

1:14:43

88 is so fucked up.

1:14:45

So this is all really

1:14:47

embarrassing. Yeah, I was going

1:14:49

to say. But here's the

1:14:51

cool thing. The government? Their

1:14:53

trust are all safe from

1:14:55

litigation. And they remain, some

1:14:57

of the richest people in

1:14:59

the US. So you can

1:15:01

only. You can't see there.

1:15:03

You can only take so

1:15:05

much. Yeah. Why? I don't

1:15:08

know. Well, because Richard have

1:15:10

mowed their money. All of

1:15:12

H.L.'s children with Lyda and

1:15:14

Frania have since passed away.

1:15:16

But his four children with

1:15:18

Ruth Ray are still living.

1:15:20

After Lamar Hunt died in

1:15:22

2006, his children remained the

1:15:24

owners of the Kansas City

1:15:26

Chiefs. And the current CEO

1:15:28

is Lamar's son Clark. Hunt

1:15:30

Petroleum, which was owned... Co-owned

1:15:32

by Margaret and Hassie's estates,

1:15:34

sold for $4.2 billion in

1:15:36

2008. Margaret died in 2007

1:15:38

and Hassie in 2005. Carolyn

1:15:40

Hunt founded Rosewood Hotel and

1:15:43

Resorts, before dying in 2018,

1:15:45

and Bunker passed away in

1:15:47

2014, and Herbert in 2024.

1:15:49

According to Forbes, the family

1:15:51

is worth $24.8 billion. God.

1:15:59

Fucking, damn it. I mean, dude,

1:16:01

listen. I can't, because I really

1:16:04

think that it's, it's like if

1:16:06

the Resnix had a football team.

1:16:08

I mean, you really cannot, we,

1:16:10

football is such a great product

1:16:12

when you, you really cannot, we,

1:16:15

football is such a great product

1:16:17

when you actually watch it when

1:16:19

you actually watch it. So was

1:16:21

baseball at one time. But you

1:16:23

have to, you have to, you

1:16:25

have to, you have to, you

1:16:28

have to, it's beyond ruining the

1:16:30

sport. It's, it's that we are

1:16:32

celebrating, we are advancing these people.

1:16:34

You cannot watch, like I already

1:16:36

hate the Kansas City Chiefs, like

1:16:38

we all already hate the Kansas

1:16:41

City Chiefs, unless you're a chief

1:16:43

fan. How the fuck can you

1:16:45

mentally separate this in your head?

1:16:47

How can you compartmentalize? on this

1:16:49

level. I mean, no, billionaires should

1:16:52

not exist, period. I'm a, I'm

1:16:54

a Manchester United fan, but it's

1:16:56

very hard for me to support

1:16:58

them knowing how the owners are

1:17:00

fucking. Glazers. Yeah. Glazers and Nios.

1:17:02

This new, it's like a oil

1:17:05

fucking company thing, like chemicals and

1:17:07

whatever. But they're, like, the guys

1:17:09

that he's going through and just,

1:17:11

just destroying like all the shit

1:17:13

in the... in the clubs and

1:17:15

he bought his way in, but

1:17:18

the glaciers are just fucking vile,

1:17:20

terrible human beings. And it makes

1:17:22

me not want to watch it

1:17:24

as much, like I just don't

1:17:26

watch it as much. No, you

1:17:29

know. And that's why the Packers

1:17:31

are good, because the Packers aren't

1:17:33

owned by the fans. They're owned

1:17:35

by the fans. You know, there

1:17:37

is an app I just found

1:17:39

called Boycat. Oh yeah, yeah, I

1:17:42

have that. And that's one of

1:17:44

the few things recently where I

1:17:46

go. Yeah, that's pretty good. It's

1:17:48

where you can scan a label

1:17:50

and tell if your money is

1:17:52

going to go to support Israel.

1:17:55

Right. And it's an easy download.

1:17:57

It's an easy... scan and you'd

1:17:59

be actually a little gold in

1:18:01

shock to find out how much

1:18:03

of your shit is actually supporting

1:18:05

this. Yeah, the the all the

1:18:08

V p.m. a lot of the

1:18:10

V p.m. Mm. Express V p.m.

1:18:12

A lot of the V p.n.

1:18:14

Sources kingdom the story of the

1:18:16

Hunt family of Texas by drums

1:18:19

to sell. Texas rich the Hunt

1:18:21

dynasty from the early oil days

1:18:23

through the silver crash by Harry

1:18:25

Hunt. The Hunt Brothers, how do,

1:18:27

how two billionaires broke the silver

1:18:29

market on Scottsdale mint.com, H.L. Hunts

1:18:32

Longbigh in Texas Monthly by Bill

1:18:34

Porterfield, Nelson Bunker Hunt, oil tycoon

1:18:36

with Texas-sized presents, dies in the

1:18:38

New York Times, October 14th, as

1:18:40

October 2014, and the Hunt Brothers

1:18:42

trial told about wiretap payments in

1:18:45

the New York Times. Well, let's

1:18:47

just say the research was obviously

1:18:49

fucking incredible. This was the best

1:18:51

research. I mean, she's always Brittany

1:18:53

Combran is always really great, but

1:18:56

this was like she literally wrote

1:18:58

this and I just went I'm

1:19:00

not going to change a word.

1:19:02

And usually I changed stuff and

1:19:04

I was just like, I'm not

1:19:06

changing a word. I mean, I

1:19:09

was reading it and I got

1:19:11

to the creeping thing and I

1:19:13

was literally just like, when she

1:19:15

sent it to you was she

1:19:17

like. this is going to be

1:19:19

hard for me to edit that.

1:19:22

She said she had to cut

1:19:24

a bunch of stuff out because

1:19:26

she's like there's just too much,

1:19:28

this family is just non-stop. Well,

1:19:30

tracing it to the chiefs, I

1:19:33

mean it's such a, it really

1:19:35

is, it's like, you know, we

1:19:37

just, I don't think we will,

1:19:39

and I know you don't think

1:19:41

we will, but we have to

1:19:43

stop the money funnel. I mean,

1:19:46

look. To be very

1:19:48

truthful, the only way you stop

1:19:50

the money file is the way

1:19:52

that one country did it. And

1:19:54

that's France. And that's literally the

1:19:56

only way you stop it. I

1:19:58

mean, there's no, you can't do

1:20:00

it. And you have to know.

1:20:02

Like, we're Debbie Downers, but you

1:20:04

have to know that there was

1:20:06

a week before the French Revolution,

1:20:08

they were walking around going like,

1:20:10

can you believe we're getting away

1:20:12

with us? Like, it happens quick.

1:20:14

It does happen quick. So... But

1:20:16

then there's people that are like,

1:20:18

there's good billionaires, okay, send me...

1:20:20

Just send me your good billionaire

1:20:22

name and I'll research them. I

1:20:24

guarantee you they're not good. Also,

1:20:26

your good billionaire argument is always

1:20:28

going to be undercut by the

1:20:30

fact that they, we could, their

1:20:32

money could be, even if you

1:20:34

think someone's philanthropic. It's like Sam

1:20:36

Simon, like Sam Simon was a

1:20:38

billionaire on the Simpsons and he...

1:20:41

Bill Gates. Bill Gates, right, yeah,

1:20:43

it's philanthropic. Bill Gates in the

1:20:45

90s was our villain. He was

1:20:47

the biggest villain in America, but

1:20:49

then now he's not that's not

1:20:51

fucking worse You also can you're

1:20:53

never going to be able to

1:20:55

convince anyone with math That a

1:20:57

philanthropic billionaire is better than a

1:20:59

90% tax rate Yeah, so the

1:21:01

90% tax rate the 91% tax

1:21:03

rate that's a good billionaire because

1:21:05

they were never allowed to exist

1:21:07

Right. Because their money that they

1:21:09

were supposed to be hoarding, they

1:21:11

never got the chance to hoard.

1:21:13

Right. That's, that's the, that is

1:21:15

better than a billionaire who gives.

1:21:17

No greater example of how dangerous

1:21:19

is to have billionaires than Elon

1:21:21

Musk because just a few years

1:21:23

ago, he was giving money to

1:21:25

Democrats and the Democrats all liked

1:21:27

him and liberals all bought his

1:21:29

cars because they thought it was

1:21:31

fucking awesome. And now he's the

1:21:33

most evil male on the planet.

1:21:35

That's why you don't let someone

1:21:37

have that much power and money.

1:21:40

You didn't, you can't reward it.

1:21:42

And I mean, these people, these

1:21:44

billionaires were like extremely rich 15

1:21:46

years ago. There, the wealth increase

1:21:48

they've gone through in the last

1:21:50

15 years is. Well, the last.

1:21:52

Less but but but I mean,

1:21:54

you know, I mean, you're talking

1:21:56

about like what Mark Zuckerberg was

1:21:58

what like worth 11 million dollars

1:22:00

in 2008 Like I mean, their

1:22:02

their money was They should not

1:22:04

have been allowed to have that

1:22:06

but because they were allowed to

1:22:08

have that they're now allowed to

1:22:10

have this Yeah, and you can't

1:22:12

walk around the streets anymore and

1:22:14

say Boy, how do we solve

1:22:16

these fucking problems when you're allowed

1:22:18

to have musk basos? Yeah, and

1:22:20

Zuckerberg, take the fucking money. You

1:22:22

want to solve all these problems?

1:22:24

Take their fucking money. Take their

1:22:26

fucking money. Take their fucking money.

1:22:28

And why, you cannot, you have

1:22:30

a co-opted government and you do

1:22:32

not even have a government if

1:22:34

you sit there and you say,

1:22:36

well, you know, how do we

1:22:38

get it back from, should not

1:22:41

be your job to go and

1:22:43

get this money back from these

1:22:45

fucking people. But if they're going

1:22:47

to make the public do it,

1:22:49

then that is going to have

1:22:51

to have to happen. insist this

1:22:53

will happen. Yeah, it's only a

1:22:55

matter of time before. I don't

1:22:57

know what it'll look like, I

1:22:59

don't know when it'll happen. It

1:23:01

ain't gonna be good. But it's

1:23:03

gonna be brutal, horrible, and they

1:23:05

are armed to the fucking teeth

1:23:07

and they know it. Not only

1:23:09

do they know it's coming. They

1:23:11

are paranoid about it coming. Oh

1:23:13

yeah. It's one of the reasons

1:23:15

they're doing this. But there you

1:23:17

go. The stuff that Musk is

1:23:19

doing right now in government. is

1:23:21

even if you think this is

1:23:23

cost cutting. It's so funny that

1:23:25

people think it's like saving us

1:23:27

from corruption when it is the

1:23:29

most unbridled insane corruption run that

1:23:31

has ever happened. The problem is

1:23:33

that they're never gonna go, oops,

1:23:35

that was bad. Yeah. They're gonna

1:23:37

believe a different fantasy that'll solve

1:23:40

it. Yeah. So you're just gonna

1:23:42

keep following different fairy trails until

1:23:44

you realize, oh God, I'm eating

1:23:46

dirt. Yeah, and if you think

1:23:48

billionaires should exist then just go

1:23:50

fucking suck on a boat for

1:23:52

20 years Shocking to me that

1:23:54

that is a can at times

1:23:56

be a controversial state. It's insane.

1:23:58

They should not exist. They should

1:24:00

not exist and if they exist

1:24:02

and they want to exist they

1:24:04

should be locked up to mental

1:24:06

disorder those that's who you lobotomize

1:24:08

that is who you lobotomize yeah

1:24:10

you lobotomize people like Elon Musk

1:24:12

and you put him near a

1:24:14

window in a wheelchair to watch

1:24:16

birds I got yeah anyway this

1:24:18

is gonna get us locked up

1:24:20

and gone yeah whatever at least

1:24:22

this dick doesn't work Elon your

1:24:24

dick doesn't Oh,

1:24:28

hey doll heads, this is Gareth

1:24:30

part of the Air Force. Listen,

1:24:33

you're part of the Air Force.

1:24:35

Go to Gareth reynolds.com if you

1:24:37

want to see me on the

1:24:39

road doing stand-up. You can find

1:24:41

me in Bray, California, February 7th,

1:24:44

Eureka, California, for two shows, February

1:24:46

11th at Savid Henry. San Francisco,

1:24:48

February 12th, Sacramento, February 13th. I'll

1:24:50

be in Virginia Beach. April 16th,

1:24:52

I'll be in Richmond, Virginia. Then

1:24:55

I will be in Lutherville, Timonium,

1:24:57

which is close to Baltimore, I

1:24:59

believe. I'm a Goobie's joke house,

1:25:01

April 17th through April 19th. Then

1:25:04

I will be in Winnipeg, May

1:25:06

29th through May 31st. Go to

1:25:08

Gareth reynolds.com for tickets and information.

1:25:10

Oh, the insane corruption run that

1:25:12

has ever happened. The problem is

1:25:15

that they're never going to go,

1:25:17

oops, that was bad. Yeah. They're

1:25:19

going to believe a different fantasy

1:25:21

that'll solve it. Yeah. So you're

1:25:23

just going to keep following different

1:25:26

fairy trails until you realize, oh

1:25:28

God, I'm eating dirt. Yeah, and

1:25:30

if you think billionaires should exist

1:25:32

then just go fucking suck on

1:25:35

a boat for 20 years Shocking

1:25:37

to me that that is a

1:25:39

can at times be a controversial

1:25:41

state. It's insane. They should not

1:25:43

exist It's insane. They should not

1:25:46

exist and if they exist and

1:25:48

they want to exist they should

1:25:50

be locked up to mental disorder

1:25:52

those that's who you lobotomize That

1:25:54

is who you lobotomize people like

1:25:57

you want can you put him

1:25:59

near a window in a wheelchair

1:26:01

to watch birds? I got, I'm,

1:26:03

yeah. Anyway, this is gonna get

1:26:06

us locked up in Guantanamo. Yeah,

1:26:08

whatever, at least this dick doesn't

1:26:10

work. E-line your dick doesn't... Oh,

1:26:15

hey doll heads, this is

1:26:17

Gareth part of the Air

1:26:20

Force. Listen, you're part of

1:26:22

the Air Force. Go to

1:26:24

Gareth reynolds.com if you want

1:26:26

to see me on the

1:26:28

road doing stand-up. You could

1:26:30

find me in Bray, California,

1:26:32

February 7th, Eureka, California, for

1:26:35

two shows, February 11th at

1:26:37

Savid Henry. San Francisco, February

1:26:39

12th, Sacramento, February 13th. I'll

1:26:41

be in Virginia Beach. April

1:26:43

16th, I'll be in Richmond,

1:26:45

Virginia. Then I will be

1:26:47

in Lutherville, Timonium, which is

1:26:50

close to Baltimore, I believe.

1:26:52

I'm a Goobie's joke house,

1:26:54

April 17th through April 19th.

1:26:56

Then I will be in

1:26:58

Winnipeg, May 29th through May

1:27:00

31st. Go to Gareth reynolds.com

1:27:02

for tickets and information.

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