0:01

The volume. What's

0:09

up, everybody? Welcome back to the Draymond Green

0:12

Show with my brother BD. How

0:14

you feeling, my dog, Damn good

0:16

man. It's the end of the year. It's

0:18

the end of the season. The

0:20

birthday is always the

0:23

last day of the year. So you

0:25

know, it's serendipitous

0:28

because you're dead tired. But if

0:30

you can.

0:30

Get over the hump, it's party

0:33

time. How you feeling, big dog. I'm

0:35

feeling great, bro. You know, we got this

0:38

last game. We obviously need to win

0:40

this game, and like you said, then

0:42

once you get to the playoffs, you

0:44

kind of find a new boost the energy.

0:46

It's kind of like a reset. And nowadays

0:50

you get a week off. That's crazy

0:52

if you clinch top six, so kind

0:54

of get that new boost. You got a couple

0:56

of ailments, let them heal

0:59

a bit and kind

1:01

of get back to it. But I feel great, man.

1:04

We got an opportunity to

1:06

control our own destiny, win

1:08

on Sunday and get into the playoffs,

1:11

and so I feel great about

1:13

it. Still pissed off we smoked

1:15

that game against San Antonio, Yeah,

1:18

but nonetheless we

1:20

got a chance.

1:22

It's always one of them games you're like, damn

1:25

dude. You just now that's

1:27

gonna hurt, and it get

1:29

down to the end of the season, be like, man,

1:31

we could have we could have had this this thing

1:33

wrapped.

1:34

Up, wrapped up all been

1:36

chilling tomorrow. It's

1:39

crazy, man. I look at some games in the last

1:42

few weeks, like that one in the Miami game

1:44

Atlantic game.

1:47

You start, he's starting it picking. I

1:53

mean, but that's that's the beauty of

1:55

the game. It's almost like it's

1:58

all set up that way. Right

2:01

at the end of the day. You gotta earn

2:03

your worth in and you gotta

2:05

earn your ticket in and some

2:08

little losses.

2:10

Or you know, it's like, ah, we'll be all

2:12

right.

2:12

It's like, damn, dude, if we would have had one

2:14

of that one.

2:20

Just one another thing I

2:22

like is the week off.

2:24

Yeah, from the top six seeds,

2:27

being able to rest, get your body

2:29

right, watch your you

2:31

know, watch your opponents.

2:33

But you think about four and five.

2:34

They get a whole week to prepare for it for

2:37

what they know is gonna crack in three and six,

2:40

right.

2:40

Absolutely, three and six and

2:42

four and five. I always felt like

2:45

one in two and you're kind of at a disadvantage

2:47

because if you're the one

2:49

seed. You're literally at the

2:51

biggest disadvantage because you don't know

2:53

who you play until two

2:55

days before you play them. If you're the seventh

2:58

seed, you've been sitting on your opponent for four days.

3:00

If you're the three through

3:03

six, you've been on your opponent for six

3:05

seven days.

3:06

Man.

3:07

And so I've always felt like number one was

3:09

at a disadvantage anyway, like the

3:11

biggest disadvantage, which is crazy. When

3:14

you think about a playoff series b D. You

3:16

figure games one and two is

3:19

usually call

3:22

it within three

3:24

to five days, like

3:27

from the end of game one, in the game

3:29

two. Somewhere in there, you

3:31

start getting to the seventh

3:34

day mark, you're like on game

3:37

four. And if you think

3:39

about how much you know a team after

3:41

game four, but that's after

3:44

now seven days of studying this team.

3:46

If you're three through six, you

3:49

essentially in game four in game one

3:52

from a studying standpoint, from

3:54

a scouting standpoint, I

3:57

think that that's an extreme disc

3:59

I mean advantage for three

4:01

through six and disadvantage for one to

4:03

two. Since the playing tournament, although

4:05

I think it's been great, I think that's one of the downsides

4:08

of it. And on top

4:10

of that, you know, you you're the one

4:12

seed, you got home

4:14

court advantage.

4:15

You sit there, you're like, man, it's

4:18

kind of like it don't even matter. And

4:22

if you catch the wrong team at the wrong

4:24

time, that got the right momentum.

4:26

You know, I think that's how we got Dallas.

4:29

You know, you're starting to see it more often

4:31

now, like Miami did it a

4:33

couple of times where it just you catch

4:35

a wave. You catch a wave,

4:37

and so on the lower seed you don't even care.

4:40

You're fighting for your life. So you

4:42

got you got rhythm, you got

4:44

playoff atmosphere under your belt.

4:47

You're almost more prepared than

4:49

a week of practice or the two

4:51

days that they need to prepare

4:54

for you.

4:54

Right, that's the fact they coming.

4:56

Off of two

4:59

games or maybe it's three games.

5:01

It could be, yeah, it's two

5:04

games, play auth intensity.

5:06

Right, it's not the one seed, but

5:10

they played y'all during the season anyway,

5:12

So now they're.

5:13

Ready and in

5:17

the West that

5:19

a seed this year can be real like

5:21

that a seed this year and

5:23

be a team that is gonna give

5:26

okay See some trouble because it's a

5:29

really good team. And you

5:31

know, okay See is really good. But I'm just saying

5:33

like it won't be your typical one

5:36

to eight where you're going, and

5:38

you just kind of like, oh yeah, we know that this one's

5:41

washed and it'll be a tough, tough

5:43

series. And so I think

5:46

that can get interesting. People always talk

5:48

about the you know, the

5:50

rest, you know, the work

5:52

versus resting. You know, do you play

5:54

versus rest? Do you play? Do your

5:57

rest? Which one is better? You always

5:59

have that to going on, and now you gotta

6:02

you get to see it up close. You know where

6:04

you got to great one seed? You

6:06

gonna have a really good eight seed that

6:09

a seed is gonna been to had a couple of playoff

6:11

games under their belt, rolling into the one

6:13

seed that've been shunning for a week. You

6:15

know, Okay, see, I'm sure they'll

6:17

probably take this last game off. So that

6:20

week all of a sudden becomes ten eleven

6:22

days, man, And that's a lot. That's

6:24

a lot, and that's a lot of time off, you

6:27

know, when you're when you're a customer, playing every

6:29

other day. So I

6:31

think that can get interested.

6:33

You sharpening your tools, but

6:36

you're not practicing. It

6:38

ain't no real intensity, right,

6:41

So you're just sitting around

6:44

working out, trying to stay in shape.

6:47

Why everybody else is preparing for

6:49

somebody and then everybody else is

6:52

fighting to get to you that I mean, I'm

6:54

excited for these playoffs, man, I'm

6:56

telling you, I'm super excited. This

6:58

is the feeling I had as a kid in

7:01

the eighties and the nineties, two thousands,

7:04

you know, the

7:07

warrior run era. I think basketball

7:10

people need to pay attention.

7:12

Man.

7:12

It's cracking every

7:14

night, y'all out cracking. It's

7:17

cracking it. And like it's so much

7:20

talent in the league, and the intensity and

7:22

the level of play is really it's

7:25

on the rise. The competitiveness

7:27

to you know, the physicality, people

7:30

really really having rivalries,

7:32

talking ship to each other. All this is

7:35

going to start percolating and people are gonna

7:37

see, oh, this era.

7:39

Is real too. That's me. That's

7:42

a fact. Speaking of rivalries, man,

7:44

I love the other day watching Joe

7:46

and play against each other in

7:49

the Hogh Stakes game guard

7:51

each other in the Hogh Stakes

7:53

game. I told y'all a couple of weeks

7:55

ago, man, my favorite two young

7:57

guys to take the trash thrown

8:01

as those two guys and they went

8:03

out there and guarded each other, like, let's

8:05

face it, Jah not fit

8:07

the guard like, right, And when

8:10

I say not fit like Jiahu

8:13

Jos small man a little bit,

8:16

how you shake. He got the heart of a lion.

8:19

If you ever see John, he's

8:21

small like, which makes

8:23

what he does even more impressive, Which

8:26

makes the weight that he carry even

8:28

more impressive because he Jah ain't a big dude

8:30

at all. Man for him to even

8:32

go out there and say, no,

8:35

I'm gonna take on the challenge and guard

8:37

and that to me just says

8:39

something about his heart, about why

8:42

he is who he is, because

8:45

that matchup ain't for him. Man on the flip

8:47

side and a big guys dude like

8:49

right, a six five

8:52

six six two twenty

8:56

solid, And so just the size

8:58

advantage in itself like

9:01

that made it all the more impressive, even

9:04

John going to guard him. Now. I

9:06

think when you at man, what he has to

9:08

look at next and his game is all right, I

9:10

gotta get off the ball now and

9:13

maybe go get some post work. You know what I'm

9:15

saying. He get in that post, he got

9:17

job on and me getting that post you can make

9:19

it hard on John now and saying that at

9:22

a certain point in the game Josh switched off

9:24

and win the guard to somebody else and because Scottie

9:26

Pippen Junior was

9:29

doing a great job on it, you know what I'm saying,

9:31

and so and he can defend, he

9:33

can and he and he went to guard end.

9:35

But man, just the respect that I've

9:38

been had respect for both of them young fellas,

9:40

but you can I gained even

9:42

more respect just watching them come out in that

9:45

meaningful game talking about

9:47

a rivalry. You had everybody

9:50

praising Joe. He next up and he the

9:52

next face of the league. And then

9:55

you know he had this situation and now it's

9:57

like he you know, everybody throw him by the

9:59

wayside. You have like the villain.

10:01

Yeah, you got young ant man who like I

10:03

don't even want that, Like I don't even want the face

10:05

of the league. But it's that type of

10:08

that level of talent, and in

10:10

a meaningful game for playoffs

10:12

standards, they guarded each other. So I

10:14

respected.

10:15

That is their thing

10:18

with this younger generation when

10:20

not wanting to be the face, more

10:23

so want to be the villain and take

10:25

on a villain persona. I was

10:27

thinking about that the other day, like when

10:29

at said that, like aunt don't want to

10:32

be like a hero, Like,

10:34

oh, I'm Superman. You know, I'm the

10:36

great American cover

10:39

boy. I think he wants to be the

10:41

villain, right. I

10:43

think jah as he starts

10:45

to embrace I'm the villain, he

10:48

starts to fill out his personality

10:51

on the court and his brand on the court. But

10:53

I think these young deals they like being the villain,

10:56

and I think they want to find who's

10:59

the target, Like who's the number

11:01

one target guy outside

11:03

of I mean you think like.

11:05

A Winby, Like, they don't want

11:07

to be that. They want to be like this. They

11:10

want to be the villains, like the upset

11:12

guy I did talker, right.

11:15

I just think for them it's more like they'd

11:18

rather be the people's champs. Right,

11:21

But you look at where they both come from, it

11:23

makes sense, you know what I'm saying, Like they

11:26

right to be the people's champs. And listen, I

11:28

get it. I respect it to each his own.

11:30

I hate the whole conversation of the face

11:32

of the league, as if like the league

11:35

just say okay, it's you now here you

11:37

go Like, I hate that whole thing. But now

11:40

that I got that out, when you

11:42

speak on being

11:44

the face of the NBA, there's just so much

11:47

that comes with that and

11:50

in the day and age that we live in, there's

11:53

even more that comes with that today

11:56

than did fifteen years ago, Like

11:58

by a long shot, you know, just

12:01

your life in general, there's

12:04

just so much more that comes with it. And

12:06

so you got, I think, man, most of

12:08

these us they're young. They love video games,

12:11

and they love they

12:13

play basketball, they play video games,

12:16

and the generations that

12:18

they come from, anything

12:21

that takes you away from that, they don't really want

12:23

it. Like that's

12:25

just the generation we're living in where

12:27

streaming it's video

12:30

games is you know, that is

12:32

the generation that we keep

12:34

speaking of on

12:37

facing the NBA, Like that's where we are

12:40

as far as age goes. And like

12:42

when I look at KD, I

12:44

don't think KD ever wanted to be the face of the league.

12:47

But guess what KD is more

12:49

that generation of talking about when it comes to video

12:51

games, and like k want to play basketball

12:54

and play video games and

12:57

not do much else. That is this generation

13:00

though now guys to the extreme. Man,

13:03

So I think, you

13:05

know, no one talks about that side of

13:07

it. It's like the life side of it, like how

13:09

your life looks on a day to day basis,

13:12

and why some of these guys don't want that, but

13:15

you look at the guys who do want it. Wimby

13:17

is more old school, Like if you listen to anybody

13:20

talk about I talked to CP after

13:22

we played him in San Antonio about women, Like

13:24

if you talk to anybody about he read a book every

13:27

day, Like he's more old school. Jason

13:29

Tatum is more old school, you know what I'm saying. Jason

13:31

Tatum isn't like he's

13:34

more of an older So those are the

13:36

guys that want it though, you know what I'm saying, But they don't.

13:39

Their lives are different than say

13:41

a job or at you know, are most of these

13:44

young guys like JT got

13:46

a couple of kids, you know what I'm saying. His

13:48

life is a little different where he

13:51

don't play a bunch of video games, like

13:54

I think there's a philosophical

13:56

difference that everybody's not talking about.

13:58

Everybody's just looking at through one lens,

14:01

which is basketball. Yeah.

14:03

And then you have Jalen Brown, right, who's

14:06

a little different, who wants

14:08

it. But it's also you

14:10

know, not a media darling, right,

14:13

So you know the media wants

14:17

a great superhero, right,

14:19

but the people always love a good

14:21

villain. Absolutely, that's

14:24

the persona that even

14:27

the face of the NBA has to have. They

14:29

have everybody thinks that they're a

14:31

villain. Everybody wants to be the disruptor,

14:35

underdog, and you have to have that mentality.

14:37

And I think, you know, that's what is

14:40

required. It's the culture. It's

14:43

the culture. They're part of the culture. They're

14:45

part of hip hop, they're part of what's trying, They're

14:48

part of social media. You know,

14:50

when you look at somebody like

14:53

John Moran, right

14:55

and the celebrations, he's not

14:57

that that person. That

15:00

is just what the culture is,

15:03

right. Football players do it,

15:06

you know, kids do it, but at

15:09

the same time there is a great responsibility

15:12

to know what you're doing. But from

15:14

that villain persona, I

15:16

think the league you need that controversy.

15:19

But it's not that these

15:22

guys are like that, like bad guys,

15:24

right.

15:26

No, that's the fact, they're not bad guys at all. Number

15:28

One, you don't reach the level of success

15:30

that they've reached just being bad

15:32

guys. Like it's hard in

15:35

this day and age, between social media

15:37

all these different things to be a bad

15:40

guy and kind of reach this point,

15:42

you know, So they're not bad guys they're

15:44

successful black

15:47

men. Yes, people

15:49

go at you so much that

15:52

like you almost get a villain mindset

15:54

anyway. It's just because like you're subject

15:56

to people going at you twenty four to seven

15:59

to where you can you got to have to almost

16:02

like take on that just to

16:04

push through it. You know what I'm saying, Like you're

16:07

not gonna keep just coming at me that way.

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17:30

You know even in Jah, you

17:32

know, with his new celebration with

17:34

which to me look like hilarious

17:38

hysterica.

17:44

But you probably play

17:46

call of duty. You know, he probably

17:48

be on call of duty, Like you

17:50

said, that game and they on call of duty.

17:53

They got all the answers. You know what

17:55

I'm saying that men I said, but I'm taking

17:57

my words I'm taking my words,

18:00

throwing them out there and stead up blocking

18:05

listen. I respected

18:08

y'all do what you gotta do. Brother. If

18:11

you're just throwing your words out there and blocking out

18:13

the noise, what they're gonna say. They

18:16

can't say nothing.

18:21

They can't tell you can't throw your words out

18:23

there and not listen to that

18:27

was That was a sincings

18:29

bar. Ever was

18:31

a bar. Gotta give it to

18:33

him that one. That's real player right there,

18:35

play boy.

18:38

What else is cracking around the league?

18:41

The firing of coach Mike Malone.

18:45

What was your reaction to it? I

18:47

had a few different reactions. Number one, Coach

18:49

Mo is my god. I love coach Mo. I

18:52

text Josh Cronkey before many

18:55

years ago, and I text

18:57

Josh and and it was around the time

18:59

where they were kind of like you

19:01

could tell they were starting to turn that corner

19:04

but not quite there yet looking to

19:06

turn the corner. And around that

19:08

time it was like noise, like dude Denver continued

19:10

for Mike Malone and they

19:12

had a quick playoff exit. I think,

19:15

and I text Josh

19:17

and I said, don't be fool by the noise. I

19:19

think Mike Malone is your guy. Like,

19:21

I think y'all got y'all guy, and

19:24

sure enough they end up winning championship

19:27

with their guy.

19:30

And so my hunch was right when

19:32

I look at him being fired. Though you

19:35

hear the reports to like people

19:39

tired of his voice, they're tired of his

19:41

hard coaching, these types of things.

19:44

I'm sorry to say, but unfortunately

19:47

that's why people don't win, because

19:51

you get tired of hearing the voice that led

19:53

you to being a winner. I

19:56

will say, as someone

19:58

who could be the voice that people get tired

20:01

of at times that's helping leads you to win

20:03

it, I get why

20:05

you can get tired of it. I

20:08

totally understand. It

20:10

ain't even that you're not used to it. It's that

20:14

one thing that I know as a leader

20:16

is I know people probably get tired of my voice

20:19

at times. I'm not surprised that you get

20:21

tired of my voice. Quite frankly,

20:23

I don't give a shit whether you get tired

20:25

of my voice or not, because I know

20:27

what it takes to lead to win it. And

20:30

so to hear people say

20:32

it's coming out like, oh yeah, they were getting

20:34

tired of Mike Malone's hard style, like

20:38

it makes complete sense to me. Yeah,

20:41

it makes complete sense to me. Like people,

20:44

but even aside from being a player

20:46

of BD, people get

20:48

tired of being pushed. That's

20:52

what it is. People get tired of being pushed, which

20:54

is why people don't win over

20:57

and over and over again. Is

21:00

why only a select few

21:02

of people win, because

21:04

people get tired of being push And so I heard

21:06

that and it made complete

21:09

sense to me. You know another thing I heard

21:11

that bothered me is people trying

21:13

to put it on Russell Westbrook. Stop it. Oh

21:16

yeah, y'all need to stop the cap. That's crazy.

21:19

Russell Westbrook make three million dollars. You're

21:22

gonna tell me anything to

21:24

do with a coach? Is the man

21:26

that make three If Russell

21:28

Westbrook could Parliam, they three million dollars,

21:30

they pen and they can send him home paid.

21:32

Go home. We don't even want you around here

21:36

like to try to make this about Russell

21:38

Westbrook. It's insane

21:40

to me.

21:41

Man, that's crazy. I think

21:43

the whole thing with Denver is they

21:45

just got fatigued. Right, you

21:47

want a championship, you start

21:50

eating the food. You start tasting

21:52

more food as you were cooking, so

21:54

now you start removing some of your ingredients,

21:57

meaning Bruce Brown, Right, you start

21:59

removing.

22:00

With some of the CACP.

22:02

You start removing and let go some key

22:05

ingredients and it's hard to replace

22:07

that in the draft and groom that in young

22:09

people and then try

22:11

and get that in free agency. So what

22:14

is missing is always going

22:16

to be the main subject. And

22:19

you can see last year

22:22

they got fatigued, right,

22:24

They're just getting fatigued. And

22:26

so the run that they went on to

22:29

win the championship was a crazy run.

22:31

But when you play, what coach

22:34

was pushing you every day right

22:37

when the Warriors, when y'all was winning,

22:40

you know how to motivate yourself. Your

22:42

voice may be annoying

22:45

or dudes may get pissed off at times.

22:47

But when you win and

22:49

you know you need that. Now, for a coach,

22:52

you got to understand there's

22:55

a time to push these dudes. How

22:57

to push these dudes? Where are we pushing

23:00

too? Right?

23:01

Because when you're talking about

23:04

your voice as a coach, and you

23:06

keep pushing.

23:07

You keep pushing. At some point

23:09

your player's gonna be like, YEO, I

23:12

had enough. I know what I'm doing. But

23:14

who's the player in their locker room bed that's

23:16

doing that joke? Yoke, don't talk much

23:19

like Jamal Murray don't talk much.

23:21

So who's the player on that team that's doing

23:23

that though? Or does the coach have to

23:25

do it because they don't have a player? So you got

23:27

to.

23:27

Take I think they fired the

23:29

GM and they fired the coach because

23:32

they weakened the batter.

23:34

Bro Well, I'm saying you got Russell

23:36

Westbrook, who's that type of player? But I

23:38

already know the type of vibe he going to come in

23:40

on because that team won a championship

23:43

before Rus's gonna come in like,

23:45

all right, maybe I'm gonna take a backseat here. I'm

23:48

not gonna do that there. I'm not the main guy

23:50

here. And so although you could

23:52

get that demeanor from Russell Westbrook,

23:54

you're only going to get doses of it because

23:57

somewhere there's probably a little self consciousness

23:59

like they want a championship before. I ain't

24:01

gonna come in and press too much,

24:03

you know, And so you may

24:06

have to they just the team.

24:09

They're not the same team. But

24:11

but that's what happens when you start plucking

24:14

key pieces to championships. Exactly.

24:18

You just said they're trying to do it in the drivet like,

24:20

that's that's a that's a very tough thing

24:22

to do to say that. The GM

24:24

was mad that Russell Westbrook's

24:26

playing over Jaylen Pickett, Like that's

24:29

crazy, that's what happens. It's

24:31

ridiculous.

24:32

Yeah, but that's stuff like that start happened,

24:35

happening because everybody wants to

24:37

experiment, Right, everybody

24:40

got an opinion you've weakened

24:42

the foundation by letting your key

24:45

ingredients go. The

24:47

Warriors were smart about, man,

24:49

we gonna hold the whole thing together

24:51

and at maybe one or two guys

24:54

in free agency and get a draft and

24:56

then they you know who there

24:59

for a year, you know who you need

25:01

to build a foundation.

25:03

You got a bad.

25:04

Mix of veteran guys and young

25:06

guys and you have nothing in

25:08

the middle that those

25:11

veteran free agents that you needed

25:13

and needed to keep in sign you didn't have

25:16

them as your glue. So you're really

25:18

missing the glue. So when you look at Russ,

25:20

Russ is a

25:22

glue person, but he's not a glue person.

25:25

Right.

25:26

He's a complimentary piece and

25:29

he's added value right

25:31

to a team. But where do you fit if you're

25:33

not a glue guy? Because with the young

25:36

dudes. They play a different style the

25:38

way then the way Joker

25:40

want to play, or how Aaron Gordon, Joker

25:43

and Porter, how all those dudes

25:45

Jamal Murray work together. They

25:47

need KCP in

25:50

that position. Then you need Russ coming

25:52

in and working with the young dudes. So everybody

25:55

is out of predicament. And

25:57

that's why you fired a GM. That's why I think

25:59

these got fired because you

26:02

can't you can't be experimenting and

26:04

trying to win the championship because

26:07

you came off a championship two years

26:09

ago, so you know, it's like trying

26:11

to find an identity with no

26:13

identity. But that's I also think

26:16

that's why Jokers having the hell of the.

26:17

Year because

26:20

the team isn't as strong. Because

26:22

the team isn't as strong and

26:24

they have he has to do a

26:26

lot more. Whereas before

26:29

Michael Porter can beat you, Aaron

26:31

Gordon can beat you. Now those

26:34

are nights, mh

26:36

they have a hot night.

26:38

But even Jamal Murray like

26:40

it's talented as

26:42

he is, it's almost like I

26:45

mean, and he has been getting injured, but

26:47

he ain't. He has not taken it

26:49

to that next echelon of where his

26:52

talent was supposed to

26:54

go what we saw in the finals, and

26:56

that's because you lost your king Greets.

26:59

It's hard to lose key ingredient something championship

27:01

team and think you can just replace him. It don't

27:04

work like that, that's for sure. But

27:06

a lot of people also spoke about, like Reggie

27:08

Jackson being like they lost, They

27:10

lost pretty much their entire bench. You

27:13

lose team.

27:14

But don't you think that's your personality

27:16

too, right because you playing on all

27:19

these championship teams a lot of these

27:21

dudes, would you say, like, man,

27:23

I need that's my guy.

27:24

I need him even though he don't play. The

27:26

personality is right. Sometimes

27:28

you keep a guy. You keep guys around

27:31

and they may not play at all, Like literally could

27:33

be fourteen fifteenth man, and you telling Bob

27:36

like or Mike now, like you

27:38

know, we need to keep that guy. Yeah,

27:41

Like we just need that guy on the team,

27:44

like for the vibe, for something

27:46

they bring. It ain't always about

27:49

what this guy going to give us in those minutes.

27:51

Like and by the way, it's the NBA.

27:53

Everybody can play, So it ain't like we saying keep

27:56

somebody who should be playing

28:00

somewhere else, like they it's an NBA player,

28:02

But we need you to keep

28:04

this guy for this reason like that,

28:07

Like it ain't always just about basketball,

28:09

the makeup of that team, the vibes, like we

28:12

go to dinners and like keep

28:14

the vibe right or my team. You know what

28:16

I'm saying. It could be like yo in the

28:18

locker room, this dude always make us laugh

28:21

and we be need that when you down. Like,

28:23

it could be anything. It ain't

28:25

just always in those couple

28:28

spots. It ain't just always about

28:30

necessarily the production on the court,

28:33

right, just the energy. It's

28:35

that energy one.

28:42

All right, man, let's get into some

28:45

nation stuff. I know they want

28:47

to hear about this last game, right,

28:50

the intensity of the playoffs.

28:53

Before we talk about the final game

28:56

of the season, I

28:58

want to talk about how did you just right the

29:00

journey that has brought the team to this

29:02

point twenty three and six

29:05

since Jimmy joined the team. Game

29:08

eighty two is coming up. Talk

29:10

about the journey of

29:13

this team this year. And then where

29:15

are you guys at coming into

29:18

game eighty two with

29:20

a lot on the line at

29:22

home versus the Clippers?

29:25

You know, the two hottest teams to me and

29:27

the less definitely

29:29

both playing great basketball. I think for this team

29:31

when I look back on this year, as

29:35

you know, it's crazy because somebody asked

29:37

me yesterday or two days ago, they're like, man,

29:40

I'm like, hey, man, we got two more games,

29:42

and he's like, man, do it? Do

29:44

it go by fast? And

29:47

I said, not when you in it? And when you in

29:49

it, it's like stacking

29:52

on top of your head fast.

29:55

You're like, god, me forty

29:59

five Annapolis and this freezing

30:01

code of snowing, You're like, oh my god,

30:04

like I said, but then

30:06

you get to the end of it and you look back like, hey,

30:08

that flew by, you know, but

30:10

when you going through it, it don't feel like it's flying

30:13

by. It's slow. And then saying

30:15

that though this

30:18

year has been crazy, like when I look

30:20

at this year, it's been a little all over

30:22

the place, like we started off great, having

30:25

an incredible year, got off to a great start,

30:28

and then we kind of just couldn't find

30:30

it, like we lost it and couldn't find it. But

30:32

it felt like we were right there. And

30:35

then obviously we make the trade at

30:37

the deadline for Jimmy and

30:40

kind of what we thought all

30:43

along was like, man, it just felt like we're

30:45

missing one piece, like, but we're right there,

30:47

and then getting Jimmy like I

30:49

said at All Star when I said, yo, I think

30:52

when I said we're going to win the championship, I said

30:54

that because I was like, oh, yo, like this

30:57

is the piece that I felt like we were missing

30:59

and I already wanted to

31:01

shoot for a championship anyway. Now

31:03

we got the piece. And so

31:06

that's kind of been a year like started

31:08

off great, awful,

31:13

and you know,

31:15

we picked it back up. But it's

31:18

been an incredible year and they're coming down in

31:20

Game eighty two. Like you said, I

31:22

think you always look back on

31:24

some of those ones you gave it away, like, man if

31:26

we had that one. But in saying that, you

31:29

know, it's a tough challenge for us. Is a really

31:31

good playoff team. They thriving at the right

31:33

time. We thriving at the right time. Two great

31:35

coaches, two incredible Hall of Fame coaches.

31:38

Like what can you ask for us as an NBA

31:40

fan, not as an NBA

31:43

player. As an NBA fan, I'm

31:45

excited as a player, obviously, this

31:47

is what you live for. I mean, Clipper

31:51

Warrior rivalry. You know I've

31:53

been a part of that.

31:55

I think I was the reason why it started

31:58

to be honest, the

32:03

Warrior Clipper robbery. I was

32:05

probably the reason why that

32:08

whole little thing shook out. You know,

32:10

I've been coming to the games, playoff

32:12

games, and to

32:14

me, you two are the teams,

32:16

the most complete team, veteran

32:19

oriented. This is gonna be a

32:21

great matchup. You play the game

32:23

sevens right, I

32:25

feel like this is gonna be that

32:27

type of vibe, like

32:30

this.

32:30

Is Game seven, like both teams trying

32:32

to solidify that spot. This

32:35

is definitely a Game seven atmosphere.

32:38

You got to make those adjustments fast. You got

32:40

one one shot at it, one crack at it.

32:43

So I'm looking forward to it. I'll tell you

32:45

what though, somebody from the Warriors,

32:47

man, we got to get bad on for the Warriors

32:49

as an ambassador. So you can stop talking

32:52

this Clipper stuff sometimes, you

32:54

know what I'm saying, Like Raymond

32:57

Ritter, whoever to talk

32:59

about monaw

33:03

Mike mona, Chir's

33:06

done. All right, We're just

33:09

put that out there. I can't it's

33:11

a little I feel this and y'all ain't feeling this

33:13

energy I'm feeling right now. I'm

33:15

feeling this energy on he feeling

33:17

like you know, he like nowhere.

33:20

Yeah, he don't know where I really want to go. Where you're

33:22

supposed to go. I know where he's supposed to go.

33:26

Telling y'all just

33:28

make this right. Let's make it right right

33:31

now.

33:34

I appreciate that Jay spoken

33:36

about the truth king himself now,

33:38

but you got Kawhi.

33:39

Playing well, you're gonna have to guard him.

33:42

You got Zubob up

33:44

for Defensive Player of the Year, came

33:47

on strong. They're three and oh

33:49

against you this season. What

33:52

would have win on Sunday? Men going into those playoffs

33:54

be.

33:55

Huge, huge for the confidence. But he was

33:57

just to solidify that spot, get that week off,

33:59

rest up. Know who our

34:01

opponent is, you know, a

34:03

showdown with the Lakers,

34:06

Bron and Steph. We know how that's

34:08

that whole thing has been for the last

34:10

ten years. Like, man,

34:13

it'd be huge for everybody. But I think,

34:15

you know, for myself and

34:17

our team, Like you know,

34:20

the team beat you three times, come

34:22

out and take care of business. You know what I'm saying. Yep,

34:26

you know so, I think this is a

34:28

big opportunity for us. This

34:30

is a new team for us. One

34:32

of those games, one of those games you and Steph

34:35

didn't play though, I remember that

34:37

Steph and I didn't play, but you know, then

34:39

they they made some additions. Bogdanovich's

34:42

was a big addition for them. Ben Simmons, It's

34:45

played minutes for them, you know, get him some versatility.

34:48

So the biggest edition is

34:50

getting Kawhi Leonard back. You know, he's

34:52

he looked, he almost looked better than before

34:55

he got hurt. Man, that's crazygas

34:58

bounce way come back.

35:00

Bro.

35:01

The way he come back from an injury is like

35:03

like he's staying at the level.

35:05

This dude is bionic Man. So like,

35:09

yeah, man, this dude's like bionic Man. Like

35:12

you just come back like you just

35:14

can't off of a cl

35:16

surgery. It's just like

35:18

yo, and like he never left this man,

35:21

I'll understand it. Every time

35:24

he come back from injury, it looked

35:26

like Kawhi Leonard and

35:28

San Antonio Kawhi Leonard and Toronto

35:31

Raters, and I just don't understand

35:33

it. So that's the biggest edition of

35:35

all of them. Like obviously getting him back, it's

35:38

huge. Zubah is playing even better

35:40

than he was playing the beginning of the year, and he was playing at

35:42

a very high level in the beginning of the year. So team's

35:45

playing great. But also I think

35:47

you know, we know who

35:49

we are now, you know we have

35:52

our identity and were

35:54

ready to go. So been a great

35:57

matchup. This could be the Western

35:59

Conference five match up.

36:01

This could determine the Western

36:04

Conference finals in a magic way.

36:06

Yes, it can be.

36:08

As we start to wrap up the season

36:10

and talk about the end of the season, we got,

36:12

of course who you got into

36:14

the season awards. First

36:17

up, we talked about this MVP

36:21

SGA Joker or

36:24

CO MVPs.

36:25

What do you think I would love

36:27

to see co MVPs. I would love to see

36:29

these voters, all hundred

36:31

of them call each other tally,

36:34

y'all vote so these guys can tie,

36:36

because I think it's incredible in saying

36:38

that, I will have to pick one or the other.

36:41

I have to guard Joker. I know how tough

36:43

that is. It's extremely tough.

36:46

I've seen people get fatigued

36:48

off of greatness over and over again. Lebron

36:51

James only has four MVP Trophies's

36:54

Lebron James was the MVP way more than four

36:56

times in the NBA. So because

36:59

people has done that, keep

37:01

that same energy. What's been a

37:03

big deal is being the best player on

37:05

the best team. And not only is Shay the best player

37:07

on the best team,

37:10

but he's playing at such an

37:12

elite level. It ain't like he the best player

37:14

on a even

37:16

team and like he a little better. He's like

37:18

he is one of the best players

37:21

in the NBA and has taken that team

37:23

higher. So in saying that, just

37:25

with what MVP has meant, with what the

37:27

MVP has done, I think it's

37:29

gonna look crazy in ten years. You put those

37:31

numbers next to each other and be like

37:34

Jokis didn't win. But in

37:36

saying that, I gotta go with SGA got

37:39

you.

37:40

SGA, to your point, defensive

37:43

presence underrated this year.

37:45

Still absolutely Junker the

37:47

first center to average a triple

37:49

double and for an

37:52

entire series season.

37:53

I mean, I like to see.

37:55

Co MVPs just

37:57

so when we go back to history, people

38:01

can go back and see the type of year that

38:03

both of these players were having and

38:06

how they were going back and forth in this climb

38:09

for.

38:09

The MVP race.

38:10

But if I have to side about

38:13

I would side to SGA

38:15

because I watched this fan play defense.

38:17

I watched him leaders team, and to your

38:19

point, he is just on a high,

38:22

high level of frequency,

38:24

and he's pulled a lot of these talented

38:27

guys on this team up to his level

38:30

right playing at

38:32

a level above.

38:34

I think one of the most underrated things

38:36

about the year SGA had is they spent

38:39

an extended period of time this year

38:41

with no center. They had Harden's

38:45

Thin was out, Chet was out, and Jalen

38:47

with the bigger Jalen Williams was out. They

38:49

were out there running five guards and still win

38:51

a game. That's crazy, That

38:53

is extremely impressive, and

38:56

I just think another thing that kind

38:58

of gives SG he ate a

39:00

boot. So even when things weren't

39:03

ideal, he still found

39:05

a way to lead his teams to win nothing. You

39:07

know that that has that says a lot. I

39:10

agree. I totally agree Most

39:12

improved player? Who you got

39:14

for most improved? Dyson Daniels, Austin

39:17

Reeves. I

39:19

would say Austin

39:21

Reeves. A lot of

39:23

people saying Kay Cunningham.

39:26

Well, Kate Cunningham is too good

39:28

and he was so good last year that

39:31

he's too good to be most improved.

39:33

We expect that right

39:35

out of Kate, and Kate expect that out

39:37

of himself, and he's just living into

39:40

his magic. He got the All Star accolades,

39:43

and so what's next for him is, you

39:45

know, consistent All Stars.

39:47

When you look at somebody like a Dyson Daniel

39:50

coming out the G League and

39:53

coming out of nowhere to make a name for himself,

39:55

then you look at an Austin Reeves, who

39:59

was he a second round pink or undrafted?

40:01

I think he was undrafted

40:04

right making a name for himself to stay

40:06

on the Lakers, to then being a

40:09

fan favorite off the bench, now being

40:11

a bona fide NBA

40:14

star he has, he's

40:16

real and he

40:18

became a real household name and somebody

40:20

you gotta recognize this year and

40:23

went from fifteen to twenty points

40:26

a game with Lebron with

40:29

Luca still in the mix.

40:31

So I would give it to Austin Reeves.

40:34

And when it wasn't Luca ad

40:36

ad and he was cracking ad.

40:39

Yeah, absolutely, I gotta

40:41

go with Austin Reeves as well. I think Dyson Danigels

40:43

is right there, k cunning him no chance.

40:46

Like you said, CA's way too good. He'd been

40:48

way too good for this award.

40:50

And shout out to Dyson Daniels for making

40:52

a name for himself the work he

40:54

put in like he

40:57

making, he making Atlanta

41:01

have somebody else to talk about besides

41:03

what chan Young is doing.

41:05

Absolutely, I think. But when I look at

41:07

Austin Reeves, he's been arguably

41:10

the best third option in

41:12

in basketball and

41:14

when called up on and presented

41:17

the opportunity, he's been an incredible two.

41:20

Yeah, I went caught upon. And so

41:22

to go from undrafted to that fifteen

41:25

points to twenty points, there's a big difference

41:27

in the NBA have averaged fifteen points to twenty

41:29

points. Like you may look at that and be like,

41:31

oh, that's only five points. A fifteen

41:34

point a night guy off night is six

41:36

Yes, a twenty point a night guy off night

41:38

at sixteen yeap fifteen sixteen.

41:41

To put into a perspective for you, the jump

41:43

that Austin Reeves has made to

41:46

jump your average from fifteen points twenty

41:49

points, that is that's

41:51

also the difference in like someone making

41:54

fifteen million dollars a year and someone

41:56

making thirty five million dollars a

41:58

year, Like that is a drastic

42:01

jump. And obviously we know

42:03

he can pass the ball to he rebounds the ball.

42:05

You know, I think, uh, I gotta

42:07

go with Austin Reeves like you said, shout

42:09

out to Dyce and Dames. I think what he's done is

42:11

incredible. Uh. To see him playing at

42:13

the level playing that is great. But

42:16

I gotta go with Austin Reeves. And

42:18

I did not know JJ Reddick was campaigning

42:20

for Austin Reeves when he said the awards

42:24

is the high pick of war. That was a

42:26

lottery what he said, lottery

42:29

pick that's now on a high contract

42:31

that finally had. It was a campaign.

42:34

It was a campaign. I didn't realize if JJ

42:36

you slid that one in, But you got a point, my brother.

42:39

He definitely made up made people

42:42

think about the vote.

42:47

Uh, Rookie of the Year. Easy,

42:51

Stephane Castle, no question, ste Fine

42:53

Castle, no question? Like

42:56

that kid he next up, no

42:59

question, steph Fione Castle.

43:01

Easy. We're gonna look back at

43:03

this. Step Fan Castle is gonna

43:06

be a star. And of course he should

43:08

have won Rookie of the Year. He gonna be

43:10

next to Winby and San Antonio dynamic

43:13

duo, back to back Rookie of the years,

43:15

and it's all gonna make sense. But

43:17

Stephanion Castle, no question,

43:20

is Rookie of the Year. And I'm gonna tell

43:22

you this, Stephan Castle

43:25

when he improved that jump shot, and I say win

43:27

because I know he will. Because he's

43:29

a willing cheer. One of the biggest

43:32

keys about being being learning

43:34

to shoot the ball with consistency is

43:36

being a willing shooter. And he is willing

43:39

no matter how many he missing a row, he

43:41

raising up taking that next one. And

43:43

I love that attitude. That kid is gonna

43:45

be a star. I'm looking forward to a Rookie

43:47

of the Year. Congrats, young fella. It should be

43:49

yours in the back. We got

43:52

coach of the year, some

43:54

say Kenny Atkinson. The

43:56

Cavs were forty eight and thirty four in

43:58

twenty three. Twenty four increased

44:00

that to sixty three wins,

44:02

possibly sixty four. Number

44:05

one seed in the East. You

44:07

got email you Doka forty one and forty

44:09

one last season, number eleven in the Western

44:12

Conference standards. Fast

44:14

forward to twenty twenty five, they have fifty two

44:16

wins, could be fifty three, could

44:18

have been fifty five. They've kind of bombed

44:21

the last couple of games, like nonetheless,

44:24

Emai Udoka has to be in the running. And

44:26

then JB. Bickerstaff fourteen

44:28

wins to forty four wins. Damn

44:30

first season of coaching this team.

44:34

He was the coach of the team that the

44:36

Calves. Who Kenny Atkinson has now bumped

44:39

up fifteen wins to sixty three. Who

44:42

you got those three guys? Coach

44:44

of the year. Is this Kenny Atkinson first

44:46

year with the Cavs. This is Kenny Atkins's

44:48

first year. He was with the Doves last year.

44:50

That's crazy. And this JV

44:53

vickerstaff first year with Detroit.

44:56

This is his first year.

44:58

Ah, this is a hell of us storyline.

45:02

And what I would do is I would honor

45:04

them both. This would be a cold

45:06

Coach of the Year. You gotta do code Coach

45:08

of the Year like I would

45:11

give I would give two awards out because

45:13

it's just if it has to be one

45:15

person, cool, But I don't think it should

45:17

just be one.

45:18

One guy went

45:20

from eleven to two.

45:22

That's crazy to give them all an

45:25

the war, But

45:33

you cannot do that. I

45:35

mean, damn, that's

45:38

too hard. If if if I'm voting,

45:42

I don't know, that's

45:44

too tough, dude, that's tough.

45:47

They all matter.

45:48

Like what JB did taking

45:51

Detroit from nothing to something or a playoff

45:53

team, what he may did from

45:55

last year, taking them to the two

45:58

seed, showing a lot of promise.

46:01

You know, people thought that Houston

46:03

would have a team that's going to be in

46:05

the playoffs, so you know, he over

46:07

exceeded expectations. And then Kenny

46:10

Akinson came in and took

46:12

over a job from a team and

46:14

you know, damn there got them twenty

46:17

more wins than what they had the year

46:19

before and the number one

46:21

seed in the East. So if I

46:23

have to give the award, I would

46:25

probably it probably should go to Kenny Akinson,

46:30

with Shad b at a very

46:32

very close second, almost

46:34

a tie, and he may at

46:37

a very very close second.

46:39

I respect that. I think. I

46:41

think when you look at the system

46:44

that Kenny has brought to that team,

46:49

like they had talent already and

46:51

he took that same talent and has

46:53

turned that talent into what it should be, I

46:56

think it's hard not to go with

46:59

Kenny. I also think he turned

47:01

Evan Mobley into a star. And

47:03

when I say turned Evin Mobley into a star,

47:06

I understand that I'm not saying Kenny

47:08

Atkinson turned Evan Mobley has worked

47:10

his ass off to become

47:13

He unleashed the star. He put

47:15

him in position to reach who he's

47:17

supposed to become, which is a

47:19

star in the NBA. And

47:22

Evan Mobley's had an incredible year on

47:24

both sides of the ball. He

47:27

will be an all NBA performer. Evan

47:30

Mobley. I think when you look at

47:32

getting Darius Garland back to all

47:34

star form, like Darius Garland was the lost

47:36

man last year, Like Darius Garland

47:39

was on his way out of Cleveland, it was

47:41

all going wrong. It looked like he had popped

47:43

for a year or two and it was going the wrong

47:45

way. Kenny comes in, push

47:48

that confidence back into him, put him in the

47:50

system where he can thrive in And so

47:52

I think when you're looking at that, on

47:54

top of winning sixty four games, I

47:57

gotta go Kenny Akinson. I think that's

48:00

jbs incredible to go from fourteen

48:02

to forty four wins. I think it's incredible

48:04

he may to go from eleven. I'm a big fan

48:06

of e May. Just the attitude that he may give

48:09

his teams is crazy. Played

48:11

against some of the NBA finals, He's

48:13

going to Houston and taking a joke of a team

48:15

after James Harden to the second seed

48:17

in the West, brought an attitude

48:21

stepped up and said the guys that he wanted.

48:23

Bringing in Frev and Vleet as a free agent

48:25

was huge, you know what I'm saying. Like bringing in

48:28

a veteran presence like Jeff Green was

48:30

huge, you know. And these are all things

48:32

that I May Udoka's point out

48:34

of saying, no, I need this, and so bringing

48:36

it Dylan Brooks free agency, you

48:39

know, people was off Dylan Brooks. Grizzlies

48:41

off Dylan Brooks. He like, YO, bring him over here, huge,

48:45

you know what I'm saying. So what e May's

48:47

done has been incredible and I think

48:49

he right up there and deserving. But I

48:51

think I gotta go Kenny Atkinson on this one

48:54

as well.

48:55

Awesome sixth Man of the Year.

48:57

Oh, Peyton Pritcher, That's what we

49:00

got. Six Man of the year. You got Peyton Pritcher or

49:02

Malik Beasley. I got Payton Pritch's

49:04

that's easy, man. The way he has

49:06

improved. I how to put Peyton Pritcher

49:08

up there also for most improved, just

49:11

to put him in that category. But

49:13

talking about energy, you know, fire

49:16

and a difference maker for

49:19

Boston off the bench and

49:21

another leader. They found another leader. They

49:23

found another go to guy, which

49:25

is crazy. And then not to discount

49:28

what the season that Malik Beasley has

49:30

had because he's been another part

49:33

of that Piston team that forty four at

49:35

fourteen to forty four win turnaround,

49:38

and he's been a great compliment and

49:40

reliable source for k

49:43

cunning In. And so three

49:45

hundred and twelve threes this season a

49:48

Piston record. Shout out to Malik Beasley.

49:51

But when we're talking about six

49:53

man and a difference maker and a

49:55

game changing somebody's coming in and changing

49:58

the game, I gotta go to with Peyton

50:00

Pritcher.

50:01

I think Peyton Pritcher has been incredible. He

50:03

really increased his points from nine to fourteen,

50:06

which is a big jump, you

50:08

know. I think he's had a great year two

50:11

hundred and fifty one may threes, great

50:13

year on a great team, won sixty

50:15

games. But I gotta go with Malik

50:17

Beasley on this. Malik

50:20

Beasley has found a new

50:22

home three hundred and twelve threes this

50:24

season. I think both of these guys shoot

50:26

threes. Malie Besy's averaging sixteen points

50:28

off the bench, so he's winning in both

50:30

of those categories, and their team is winning.

50:33

I think when you can look at record,

50:35

but obviously Boston's going to have a much better

50:37

record than Detroit. They have a much better team than

50:40

Detroit. But I gotta

50:42

go with Malie Beasley on this one. Hit

50:44

your three, hit, your shimmy player, your

50:46

hip dance, or whatever it is. But

50:48

I think Malie Beasley is deserving. I

50:51

think he should get it. I think he's

50:53

earned it. That's what I'm rolling

50:55

with there.

50:56

It is all right, last, but not least

50:58

defensive Player of the Year. I will

51:01

give you the floor because you know where my

51:03

vote is going. What do you want

51:05

to say about Defensive Player of the Year. It's

51:08

the last one?

51:09

Oh man, I think uh

51:12

putting it back. I

51:14

think in the bag yours

51:17

true. That's who I'm rocking with,

51:20

you know, I think, listen, I think

51:22

Evan Mobley has had a great year. Dyson

51:25

Daniels has had a great year. I think you

51:27

know, Zoo Bosh has had a great year.

51:30

I think, you know, all those guys had a great year.

51:32

I ain't taking nothing away from

51:34

him, and I'll see him on first team all Defense.

51:37

But I think DP O wash should go to yours

51:39

truly. I'll take that. Yeah,

51:42

I got it.

51:42

I gotta rock with you bro, you've been you

51:44

know we talk about the season is solid,

51:47

consistent, and you just

51:49

military. You've had amazing moments

51:51

when you look at team defense and team

51:54

awareness and having that anchor. I

51:56

mean, you're the guy and look at look at the Warrior

51:58

numbers. So shout out to you.

52:00

Be my pick, give me my pick all

52:03

year. Man, let's lock

52:05

in, let's go dumb nation. Yeah,

52:09

this is it. This is the last season. This is

52:11

the last season of the game. Man on

52:13

the last game of the season. So

52:16

let's get that defensive Yeah, one more,

52:18

one more defensive showcase, and

52:20

let's put that put that trophy in the bag.

52:23

Come on, now, I appreciate you, my dog, I

52:25

hope. So, but nonetheless, let's get

52:27

this win tomorrow. We need you

52:29

to you know what I'm saying, getting these playoffs.

52:32

That is a rap from this episode

52:34

of The Draymond Green Show in the last

52:36

show of the regular season of twenty

52:39

twenty five. For all you guys

52:41

out there in this NBA,

52:43

for all you trainers out there, coaches

52:45

out there, front office,

52:48

workers, community relations, public

52:50

relations, NBA League office,

52:53

NBA PA referees, everybody,

52:56

job well done. It's a well old machine

52:59

that continues to get better. Adam Silver,

53:02

everybody who had a hand in making

53:04

this season what it is. Job

53:08

well done. Let's make these playoffs great.

53:11

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53:13

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53:16

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