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1:45

would you take 17th and a

1:47

trophy? This is this is the

1:49

question. We're living it man. We live

1:52

how long we've been talking about 17th

1:54

and a trophy is a bizarre ridiculous

1:56

hypothetical years. We've been saying that and

1:58

now here we are. How are you

2:00

enjoying it? It's it's so strange

2:02

because people are now going. Oh,

2:04

this is what you always wanted,

2:06

buddy. No. Did I want my

2:08

cake and eat all of it?

2:10

Yeah, I did. But I

2:12

never thought. I never thought Tottenham

2:14

winning a trophy would mean I

2:16

would watch. I think it's maybe

2:18

less than eight league home games

2:20

we've won this season. Is that

2:22

it? No, I think it's less

2:24

than that. Like we've beaten Everton,

2:26

Villa, Southampton and

2:29

then West Ham. I think a bit

2:31

four or five home games. Would

2:33

I swap winning four or five home

2:35

games a season to win a

2:37

trophy? Ask me that once we have

2:39

the trophy. I don't know

2:41

if you remember the season we finished

2:43

above Arsenal and I think we finished

2:45

second in the league. We had an

2:47

incredible season, but we didn't win anything

2:49

and Arsenal won an FA Cup. I

2:51

think they beat Villa. or one of

2:53

those rubbish teams in the FA Cup.

2:55

And all summer I had to put up

2:57

with all my Arsenal mates going, I

2:59

hope that you didn't win anything and

3:01

here we are with a trophy. And

3:03

they were they were mugging me off.

3:05

The game is about foot. The game

3:07

is about that was the reflection of

3:09

their own insecurity. Yeah, they knew we

3:11

had the better season. And OK, obviously,

3:13

they won a couple of other if

3:15

they cups around that time. With that understood,

3:17

they would have at least have swapped

3:19

seasons that season with us. I think

3:21

it would take a brave soul to

3:23

say they want their teams to finish

3:25

17th and win a trophy. Are

3:28

you brave enough? As

3:30

I said, I my plan is

3:32

to go to. bell and whatever time,

3:34

will be like half past 11

3:36

at night on the Wednesday the 21st

3:38

of May. Ask me again

3:40

then. Ring me up and ask me, Barthia,

3:42

are you happy? Well, we'll see. Yeah,

3:45

I hope you enjoy Nico Williams' hat

3:47

trick against Gwint. I'm

3:51

going to end up with

3:53

a load of credit with

3:55

Vueling Airlines if Bodo do

3:57

a madness against us. I

4:00

don't know. It would be

4:02

that mad. I'd like to talk

4:04

about Glimps a little later

4:06

on actually. We'll do that. We'll

4:08

do that because they're the

4:10

cool, fun, you

4:13

know, tactics nerds. Do

4:15

we call them Bodo or do we

4:18

call them glimps? Either, both. Okay, fine. So,

4:20

okay, all right, we'll do it. So

4:22

their name is stylized as like Bodo slash

4:24

glimps and as like English language speakers,

4:26

we're like Oh, so it's like one or

4:28

the other, but it's, it's, um, it

4:30

used to be a hyphen, but they replaced

4:32

the hyphen because it looked weird on

4:35

betting slips where hyphens are used to, to

4:37

combine the two teams, right? So,

4:39

so they, they went to a

4:41

slash, but it's like, you know,

4:43

Tottenham, Hotspur, Manchester, United. Glint

4:46

is, is like our word glint.

4:48

It's flash. They're Bodo flash. Okay,

4:51

so they were originally they were originally

4:53

called glimps and then they like went I

4:55

think professional they went up to I

4:57

don't know the second or third last year

5:00

No, well not that long ago And

5:02

there was already a team called glimps that

5:04

like oh, I guess will include the

5:06

name of the town that we're from in

5:08

our name So that's why they have

5:10

a weird name and their manager is one

5:12

of your is he's on your list

5:14

of good managers, but he doesn't he's like

5:16

Dennis Burkamp. He doesn't fly or travel.

5:18

He doesn't go anywhere. This is the the

5:20

word about town that he has been

5:22

maybe offered or at least offered to interview

5:24

for other jobs. But he's turned other

5:26

jobs down because for personal family reasons that

5:29

I won't share, I don't think maybe

5:31

I have done before and I shouldn't have

5:33

done. He wants to remain close to

5:35

home. However, I was saving this

5:37

for a video. However, London might

5:39

be close enough to home that like

5:41

it's kind of a journey he

5:43

can make regularly opposed to like going

5:45

down. to Southern Europe or whatever.

5:47

So maybe, maybe, and hopefully this week

5:50

we'll do a little glimps watch

5:52

and we will simultaneously be previewing our

5:54

upcoming Europa League opponents. and doing

5:56

a little good manager series on Knudsen.

5:58

So I hope he's a terrible,

6:00

terrible football manager who's just got lucky

6:02

and fluked his way a bit

6:04

like how we have to the semi

6:06

-finals of a Europe bit of the

6:09

second tier competition. Let's hope so.

6:11

And we will talk about that in

6:13

a minute. But Wendy wanted me

6:15

to read this. So James Dickens said,

6:17

I'm writing the London Marathon in

6:19

a couple of weeks for Great Ormond

6:21

Street Hospital after they fixed a

6:23

hole in my daughter's heart when she

6:25

was nine months old. I felt

6:28

I wanted to give something back. And

6:30

he's given a just giving link.

6:32

And then also, Harry Sherlock has written

6:34

an extremely moving article about losing

6:36

a baby. And it's fundraising for the

6:38

Medway Hospital charity who supported him

6:40

and his wife through this difficult period.

6:42

So both those just giving pages

6:44

will be in the show notes. All

6:47

right, buddy. You did

6:49

the post -match reaction pod

6:51

for the Frankfurt second leg. Remind

6:54

us what you said

6:56

a little bit. Something about

6:59

sticking eagles in places

7:01

that you can't stick your

7:03

eagle up. It

7:05

was really nice

7:07

to feel something, to

7:09

feel alive. I

7:12

do know. This whole season has

7:14

been, and it was nice to see

7:16

the team get down and get

7:19

muddy because it wasn't pretty. It really

7:21

wasn't pretty. Frankfurt missed a

7:23

couple of opportunities, but there was

7:25

some dogged determination from some of

7:27

our players. Determination that seems

7:29

to not be there when we play

7:31

normal Premier League games. They were chucking

7:33

themselves at stuff. They were running. They

7:35

were battling. And I've always,

7:37

what I've wanted to see from Postercoglu

7:39

is his team win different. And that was

7:42

at the start. Now I just want

7:44

to see his team win. But at the

7:46

start, I wanted to see if his

7:48

team could win different. And I think that's

7:50

probably one of the most different wins

7:52

we've had, because we really had to grind

7:54

our way through that. We

7:57

did grind it out against

7:59

Brentford a few weeks back,

8:01

but certainly to this extent,

8:03

a real grinder. And I

8:06

think that's interesting because, and

8:08

Mac, aka TweetGoodMac, made

8:10

this point that it's like, for

8:12

so long, he has way, way,

8:14

way prioritized playing our football, playing

8:17

our way, instilling his Vision of

8:19

football at the cost of results

8:21

and now he knows he's getting

8:23

a sack at the end of

8:25

the season So it's like well,

8:27

I guess I'm just gonna you

8:29

know throw shit a wall and

8:31

try and escape with some in

8:33

and and then I've got a

8:35

trophy to my name and that'll

8:37

get me my next job basically,

8:39

you know, yeah So fair enough,

8:41

but yeah first half so so

8:43

Frankfurt counterattack team Which means that

8:45

they defend pretty well deep and

8:48

first half we Didn't

8:50

play we had a lot of the ball, but

8:52

we didn't play a ton of football. We weren't knitting

8:54

it through midfield We were just kind of chucking

8:56

it about we had we had a you know We

8:58

all camped up in there half a lot of

9:00

the time But like a lot of long balls a

9:02

lot of just not long ball But just like

9:04

fire into an area would fight for the second ball

9:06

and then eventually dinking over the top for the

9:08

Madison to get the crap kicked out of him How

9:12

long does it take the referee to realise

9:14

that their goalkeeper done a hell of a shumaker

9:16

and just wiped him out? And

9:19

he almost did the same in the second

9:21

half. There's a lot to admire about that

9:23

goalkeeper. I quite like him. But those were

9:25

two really rash challenges. And I

9:27

did think Spurs that first half we

9:29

did punt it long a lot. But

9:31

saying that there was still some nice

9:33

intent from individuals such as Tell and

9:35

Destiny who I thought had two really

9:37

strong games and Madison to be fair

9:39

to him before he got wiped was

9:41

having a decent game. Destiny finally putting

9:43

things together, getting a nice little run

9:45

where he's playing once a week because

9:47

he's rotating with Spence. So he's not

9:49

playing too much and he's not playing

9:51

too little and he can actually build

9:54

up and now the season. come to

9:56

an end. Or you can argue he's

9:58

peaking at the right time because we're

10:00

in a Europa League semi -final. It

10:02

is interesting that the Udogi and Poro

10:04

were favoured in both of these very

10:06

important games and Spence wasn't. And for

10:08

the first look, I thought, oh, okay,

10:10

we're playing with both fullbacks inverted. And

10:12

there was maybe a suggestion that that

10:14

for whatever reason, possibly doesn't fancy Spence

10:16

playing, you know, in that sort of

10:18

like number 10 position sometimes. And so

10:20

was like, oh, that's why. But then

10:22

in the second leg, we went to

10:24

Doggy and Poro and we kept them

10:26

deep and wide and didn't play through

10:28

them a ton. So I don't know.

10:30

I don't know what to make of

10:32

that. Just an interesting one. I quite

10:34

liked. I quite like the bit where

10:37

he inserted Danzo with 10 minutes to

10:39

go. And I know by, I popped

10:41

into, I popped into Discord live, uh, tweet

10:43

live thread during the game. Cause I don't

10:45

often do that because you never know whether

10:47

the discord is in front of you or

10:50

behind. So you don't, you don't want things

10:52

spoiled. But as soon as I saw him

10:54

insert Danzo, I was just like, I'm going

10:56

to go see what's going on. And someone

10:58

said, Bardi will love this. And then you

11:00

said immediately, I don't like it. Just

11:03

as I was typing. I love it. Why

11:09

not part the bus?

11:11

You can. You're

11:13

allowed go. I'm not against that. And

11:15

what the concerns were this, we never play

11:17

with a battery. And so

11:19

it's a lack of experience playing that,

11:22

that formation. And the main thing

11:24

with that is that, like, when you take

11:26

a player out of midfield or at the

11:28

front line, you're changing the spaces that you're

11:30

giving up. And so suddenly, like, remember

11:32

back under Conte, we played a back three, and

11:34

there was this, like, there are a couple of moves

11:36

that we were particularly vulnerable to, like the cutback

11:38

cross. To the far post and then

11:40

just the general cutback because you've got so

11:42

many plays in that deepest line that spaces

11:44

opens up before right and if you're a

11:46

really well -drawn team And you play back

11:48

three all season, you learn how to cope

11:50

with that better. But if you're like, oh,

11:52

shit, I guess we'll just play back three

11:54

for 10 minutes. You might not you're

11:56

probably not going to be sufficiently rehearsed. You

11:58

might be vulnerable in those areas. The

12:00

other thing is and Matt

12:02

team made this point is if

12:04

Frankfurt did score, then we've

12:06

got to go out and try

12:09

and get something with, you

12:11

know, a horror show 11. Or

12:14

I guess we just try and hang on

12:16

for penalties because I think that's that. how

12:18

it works now in terms of a goal

12:20

away going to stuff. So I guess it

12:22

would have been the same for both legs,

12:24

right? So I definitely didn't mind us dropping

12:26

off in this game because Frankfurt a counter

12:28

attack team and honestly, they were poor on

12:30

the ball, which is not shocking for a

12:33

counter attack team, obviously, but like they were

12:35

really quite poor in their own possession. So

12:37

it was it was the right way to

12:39

see out the game, tactically, for sure. And

12:41

I think what Danso has that Romero and

12:43

Van de Ven don't, and that was really

12:45

evident on Monday night against Forrest, is Danso

12:47

has got that go get the ball attitude,

12:49

which I quite like about him. He will

12:51

just go and win a header. Whereas

12:54

Romero and van der Ven love to let

12:56

the ball bounce, and they could

12:58

be quite susceptible to, as you've seen many,

13:00

many times, balls whipped into the box.

13:02

I just think Danzo's a more attacking defender.

13:04

He'll go get the ball. And he

13:06

did that quite a few times, intercepted and

13:08

one big headers. So it

13:10

was smart for Boster Koglu. Yeah. Yeah. I

13:13

mean, I definitely didn't mind Danzo coming

13:15

on because he's by far our best center

13:17

back in the air. We will talk

13:19

about the forest game later. But

13:22

I just thought I was a bit spooked by three

13:24

centre backs on the pitch at the same time. But

13:27

hey, it worked. It

13:29

definitely worked. What

13:31

more is there to say about Frankfurt,

13:33

buddy? That's it really. It

13:35

was muddy, it was dirty but we

13:37

got it done. We got through it.

13:39

Everybody thought I thought we'd lose 3 -1

13:41

or something away from home. I was

13:43

very worried after that first leg but

13:45

we got through and that's all that

13:48

matters and we've now got a really,

13:50

it's a massive opportunity. Like if you

13:52

could pick out of all the teams

13:54

left. Let's be honest, that would be

13:56

the team you would pick to play

13:58

in the semifinal, no? Um, we'd rather

14:00

play Manu, but I'd say straight Manu

14:02

off rubbish. But yeah.

14:04

Manu in a one -off game does concern

14:06

me, but I think I think Bill

14:08

Bowell will see them off. Have we

14:10

played have we played Amorim's United yet?

14:12

We only played 10. We've got a

14:15

good record against 10 Hanks United. Did

14:17

we play Amorim's United? Yeah, we did.

14:19

We beat them 1 -0 Madison scored

14:21

that scored the one scored the goal

14:23

at home. It was oh, yeah, Lana

14:25

spilt it. Yeah, which he seems to

14:27

love to do nowadays our our keeper,

14:30

buddy. Bit of a spiller. Let's

14:32

not talk about goalkeepers today. We're

14:35

going to have to do

14:37

that. I'm afraid to some point

14:40

today. Matt Law

14:42

reports and whenever Matt Law reports, it's

14:44

worth taking a little pinch of

14:46

salt that he fucking hates, Tom. But

14:48

Matt Law reports that Postacoglu has

14:50

gone at the end the season, even

14:52

if he wins the Europa League. You

14:55

might again say, let's see how I

14:57

feel about that situation if and when

14:59

we do win it. But would you

15:01

feel any differently about Ange if we

15:03

did win? No, because it's two different

15:05

questions. The first question was, how

15:08

would I feel about us finishing 17th and

15:10

winning Europa League? It's very different.

15:12

I have a very different answer

15:14

to how would I feel about us

15:16

finishing 17th, winning Europa League and

15:19

then keeping Postercoglu. And the answer to

15:21

that is no, we can't keep

15:23

Postercoglu. As much as I will treasure

15:25

the Europa League and as much

15:27

as I think when time passes, we

15:29

will remember that win fondly, I

15:31

think... think there's been too many disappointments

15:33

in the domestic league that he

15:35

can walk away, that he can carry

15:37

on. We've gone too far now.

15:40

It's too bad. It's 37 points, man.

15:42

Teams have been relegated on 42

15:44

points, and I don't think we'll

15:46

make it to 42 points. I know it

15:48

doesn't matter because we've got the points

15:50

we needed. It's different now. 35 is safe

15:52

in the league nowadays, and we'll be

15:54

for a good while, I think. But it's

15:56

still not even hitting 40 points in

15:58

a season is... saccable. So it's a saccable

16:00

fence with that team. Yeah, I hear

16:02

that. For me, you know, I'm much more

16:04

interested in performances than results and that

16:06

goes both ways. So while we were losing

16:08

a bunch of games, we had players

16:10

out injured, I was saying, I want to

16:12

hold on, I want to wait, I

16:14

want to see how things go when players

16:16

are back. Players are back now. I'm

16:18

not happy with the performance, performance, tactically. And

16:20

so now even if the results fell

16:22

our way in, in the Europa, I

16:24

would, it wouldn't change the performances. And I

16:26

don't see the performances picking up pay if they

16:28

do. that time, maybe there's a question, but

16:31

they ain't looking too likely right now. That's for

16:33

sure. And so if we

16:35

mud our way through to a

16:37

to a trophy. Awesome. Excellent. Great for

16:39

us. Happy for Ange too. Go

16:41

and put that on your CV mate

16:43

and land on your feet. But

16:45

I think that I would have to

16:48

say, yeah, tactically, the performances have

16:50

just been actually possibly even poorer since

16:52

players came back from injury. mean,

16:54

you don't want us to end up

16:57

in a situation where under Juan de Ramos,

16:59

we won a trophy and then we're

17:01

two points from eight games and we're staring

17:03

down. We were really staring down the

17:05

barrel of that. And it's just,

17:07

it's a shame, it's amazing that

17:09

if he delivers us a trophy, he...

17:11

He becomes, barely any managers do

17:13

this at Tottenham and he becomes a

17:15

well respected individual for doing that.

17:17

And over time, when he comes back

17:20

and visits the club in 10,

17:22

15, 20 years time, he will be

17:24

applauded. He'll be congratulated. They will

17:26

talk about the night in Bilbao and

17:28

everything else. But right now it's

17:30

too raw and Daniel Levy will take

17:32

a look around the stadium last

17:34

night. where four games to go in

17:37

the season, Monday night, bank holiday,

17:39

I know it's Eastern, people got work

17:41

in the morning, but he'll take

17:43

a look at what was happening in

17:45

that stadium last night and not

17:47

be happy and realize that there is

17:49

too much, there's a sweat of

17:51

opinion against him, it's too much now. We'll

17:53

still be a very polite, and I

17:56

guess we'll talk about the crowd,

17:58

but you could see things aren't

18:00

right with us. Yeah, yeah, I

18:02

do think it's interesting that like,

18:04

you know, we've tried possession managers

18:06

who with their sort of progressive

18:08

football ideas, and we've tried some

18:11

dinosaurs who sit back in their

18:13

box. But the two times we've

18:15

made it to a European semi

18:17

final is when we've had a

18:19

progressive possession coach just dig in

18:21

the mud. It's that blend between

18:24

the two that's really has really

18:26

hit the mark or in certain

18:28

big man in certain the big

18:30

dog up front and just one

18:32

of the ball up to up

18:34

to Lorenzo. Yeah, Richarduson capturing the

18:36

spirit of Fernando Lorenzo. Yeah, I

18:39

mean, Richarduson is an interesting character

18:41

in the fact that I do

18:43

think right now with his how

18:45

fit he is, he remains quite

18:47

a good chaos merchant, a little

18:49

chaos grenade for us to just

18:52

chuck in there and start cross

18:54

spamming again, which we seem to

18:56

take it quite fondly to. Alright,

18:58

we will talk about Forest in

19:00

just a moment. Is

19:02

there one more thing to say about

19:04

the Frankfurt game, or do you want to

19:06

talk about Bodo a little bit now?

19:09

I don't think it's pronounced Bodo, by the

19:11

way. What does it pronounce? Bodo. Yeah,

19:13

something like that. Let's do... I don't know

19:15

anything about them, so go for it.

19:17

Okay. They

19:20

have sort of historically been like

19:22

a yo -yo club throughout a

19:24

lot of, well, the end of

19:26

last millennium, in the last century.

19:28

And then they've kind of really

19:30

put it together in the last

19:32

five, six years, specifically under Knitzen,

19:34

although a little bit before that

19:36

too. They play like a 4 -3

19:38

-3. They have a lot of

19:40

the ball. They took

19:42

the game to Lazio and dominated

19:44

possession and dominated chances, despite,

19:46

you know, offering a significant talent

19:48

deficit. They've done

19:50

an interesting thing or an interesting

19:52

thing has happened where they've sort

19:54

of routinely sold their best player

19:56

or players even season after season

19:58

and Knudsen has continued to improve

20:01

the performances of the club despite

20:03

that. which is, you know, one

20:05

of the most impressive things a

20:07

coach can do. And what's interesting

20:09

about that is that those players

20:11

went abroad, failed, and now Glimpz

20:13

have bought them back for like

20:15

half the money. So now they've

20:17

got all of that experience and

20:19

the growth and the development they've

20:21

had, and they've got their best

20:23

players back. Although having said that,

20:25

they've also got three players, including

20:27

their most important players suspended for

20:29

the first leg, Berg, who is

20:31

their number six. Where's number seven

20:33

plays at the number six position

20:35

is is super important to every

20:37

phase of play for them. And

20:39

he suspended. So it seems like

20:41

and this kind of shows the

20:43

lack of experience this club have

20:45

in like a league competition. Right.

20:47

They were under the impression that they

20:49

wouldn't be suspended because the yellow card

20:52

record is wiped off at the end

20:54

of the quarters. But they got suspended. Based

20:56

on you know, it was before

20:58

the end of the game. So they

21:01

thought that they it would be

21:03

reset and they wouldn't be suspended, but

21:05

they are so They misplayed that

21:07

one thinking that they were safe to

21:09

go out and do a tactical

21:11

foul and be fine for the next

21:13

game. So Yeah, we really really

21:15

should take advantage of that and They've

21:17

we've got they've got some history

21:20

with our manager and our former managers

21:22

as well. So they They slapped

21:24

Jose's Roma a couple of times. Yep.

21:26

I didn't they Didn't they wallop

21:28

Angers famous amazing Celtic as well? Five

21:30

one over two legs. Yeah,

21:32

that's Christ. Yeah,

21:35

in the, I think

21:37

Europa. Yeah,

21:40

conference, conference playoff.

21:42

Yeah. Um. I haven't

21:44

watched either of those games yet. I'm in

21:46

the process of getting hold of them, so

21:48

we can have a look at them this

21:50

week. But Bodo had less possession in both

21:52

legs, so they played on the break. And

21:55

these are kind of things they... They, they

21:57

kind of want to be a counter attack

21:59

team, but because they are now the best

22:01

team in their country, they're forced to be

22:03

a possession team and they've, they've re grouped

22:05

and re identified around having a lot more

22:07

of the ball a lot of the time.

22:09

So they can do it both ways. Um,

22:11

I imagine that they'll end up playing mainly

22:13

on the break against us, you know, certainly

22:15

the first leg. And then I guess, you

22:17

know, if, if we're up a couple of

22:19

goals going into the second leg, then, then

22:21

they have to, they've got to change it

22:23

up and come at us and. Certainly,

22:26

structurally, they have more to

22:28

offer than Frankfurt did. So just

22:30

chucking big Kevin might not

22:32

be the end of that one.

22:34

How do you feel about

22:36

this game? I'm

22:38

nervous about this game because they're

22:40

a proper football team. The talent

22:43

differential is massive on the side.

22:45

The reason we beat Frankfurt, we

22:47

weren't set up better. We didn't

22:49

have the better tactical solutions. We

22:51

just had the better players and

22:53

we did better in moments. That's

22:56

like some feet on him though.

22:58

Yeah, that's a bit like our 2019

23:00

run to the final as well.

23:02

Absolutely man. Absolutely. We played Iax

23:04

team who are who are better

23:07

than us, but we we just able

23:09

we had a couple of individuals.

23:11

Honestly, honestly, the talent differential against that

23:13

Iax squad was not so heavily

23:15

in our favor. They had Frankie De

23:17

Jong, Ziyech, Van de Beek. Tadich

23:20

had moved on by that point, I

23:22

think. No, Tadich was there. Tadich was there.

23:24

Okay. And we were, yeah, delicked and

23:26

we were playing Winx and Cezoko in midfield,

23:28

so. That's true. So it

23:30

won, you know, you poached, did some

23:33

smart things, given the talent that

23:35

he was disposing for those two games

23:37

in my opinion. I mean, we

23:39

still kind of, you know, slugged our

23:41

way through against. Yeah. against

23:44

the momentum. Um, see,

23:46

I'm, I'm, I'm scared. And there is

23:48

a little bit of romanticism for glimpses.

23:50

Uh, but yeah, man, they're, uh, they're

23:52

a proper football team. We just have

23:54

to muddy it up and win on

23:56

the moments and sneak through again. Basically. I

23:59

mean, all the, all the hipsters want to

24:01

build bow bow to final really, don't they? That's

24:03

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24:05

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24:07

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24:09

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26:15

In the build -up to this game,

26:17

I was tagged onto a tweet because

26:19

someone was trying to give their

26:21

ticket away for free. To

26:23

the forest game. To the forest game.

26:25

How was the atmosphere in the stadium,

26:27

buddy? You couldn't give away tickets for

26:30

this game. I

26:32

do wonder if individuals actually paid

26:34

other people to come to the

26:36

game because it was impossible to

26:38

shift. So if you had a

26:40

ticket, you kind of had to

26:42

go. And it was it was

26:44

bizarre. I mean, I don't know

26:46

if you've ever been in a

26:48

presentation at work where you have

26:50

the tech team talking about something

26:52

which is really boring, totally uninteresting

26:54

and nothing could have been an

26:56

email. Could have been it could

26:58

have been in this game. This

27:00

game could have been an email.

27:02

No, that's the title, man. Like,

27:05

I wish I could have put the

27:07

game on mute and turn my camera

27:09

off and just sat there eating. or

27:11

on my phone which is kind of

27:13

what I did anyway there was there

27:15

was really nothing in that match especially

27:17

the first 45 minutes where

27:19

we went down, at least in the

27:21

second half there was a little bit

27:24

of oomph as we chased it, but

27:26

it was a boring game where there

27:28

was nothing on the line for us

27:30

and the fans fed off what we

27:32

saw on the pitch and it was

27:34

visible. I mentioned earlier in the pod

27:36

about Daniel Levy being sensitive to the

27:39

whims of the fans because ultimately we

27:41

were a big income source and he

27:43

tends to act when he upsets his

27:45

number one client. He

27:49

would have noticed that there was a lot of

27:51

empty seats. Next to my right, there was four or

27:53

five in front of me. There were six or

27:55

seven. And the people that are in

27:57

front of me normally go to every single match.

27:59

It's the same guy. And he wasn't there. And

28:01

that's because people just don't care about the league

28:03

at the moment. We'll be packed for the Europa

28:05

League. But that many people missing

28:07

from my home game is telling to

28:09

how we are with the club right

28:11

now. Yeah. Nothing

28:15

to add from me, boss. It's

28:18

my last home Premier League game

28:20

because I'm away for the Brighton

28:23

match and they won't see you

28:25

there. Well, you maybe see the

28:27

trophy paraded around, which would be

28:29

nice. a great shirt. And

28:31

then for the Palace game, I've got a

28:33

race that day. So I can't make either of

28:35

those ones. So I made the effort to

28:37

come to the last Premier League game of the

28:40

season. And throughout, I was thinking

28:42

I could have just stayed at home and

28:44

watched this on TV and being quite comfortable.

28:47

Yeah, that's pretty much how I felt

28:49

I put it on because it's my

28:51

job I might not have bothered I

28:53

was having a hard time getting a

28:55

stream for like five minutes And I

28:57

was like if I didn't have to

29:00

if I could give up now I

29:02

would you know Having said that I

29:04

actually quite like the way we attacked

29:06

in this game man I thought we

29:08

we put out the chances. Oh, I

29:10

haven't checked the FB ref stats. Let's

29:13

have a look No,

29:15

they haven't update haven't posted it yet.

29:17

I guess because it's a bank holiday

29:19

game They could what do you mean

29:21

there? They're being counters haven't got up

29:23

to they can't they still haven't finished

29:26

counting the amount of cross crosses We

29:28

whipped it. Yeah, this is the sheer

29:30

volume. Well under stat have us at

29:32

2 .4 expected goals and foot mob

29:34

have us at 2 .1 expected goals. So

29:36

something in that, you know, more than

29:39

two expected goals region is looking like.

29:41

I mean, there was opportunities. Tel had

29:43

won in the first half, which was

29:45

wild select. The Charleston had won in

29:47

the second half, which was well saved

29:49

by by sales. And there was a

29:51

couple of headers. And it's what it's

29:54

one of those games where if you

29:56

look at it, if you look at

29:58

it like that, you think, oh, we

30:00

didn't do too bad. And the the

30:02

pro angelo are very much looking in

30:04

that way that we we created. a

30:07

lot. We dominated them, but we're forgetting

30:09

we were playing a team that enjoys

30:11

to be dominated, not in a forest.

30:13

They're very happy. Milenkovich,

30:15

Nikola Milenkovich, is one of the

30:17

biggest humans I've ever seen in an

30:19

honor football pitch. He's massive.

30:22

I mean, Richalice is not little, but he's

30:24

just huge. I don't know how you

30:26

shift him. So just chucking the ball into

30:28

him all the time wasn't the greatest

30:30

idea. And also Chris Wood. He's got quite

30:32

nice feet for a big dude. He

30:34

caused some problems as well. So they are

30:36

quite a physical specimen for us. I

30:39

think they were more than happy to allow

30:41

us to play that way. Fottmop

30:44

had for Charleston at

30:46

1 .46 expected goals himself. I

30:49

don't know man, I thought it was

30:51

a good attacking display and I put

30:53

that down to the profile of the wide

30:55

players in the first half. Forrest

30:57

played with the back four in the first half.

30:59

They played deep and they played narrow as they

31:01

are want to do. And our wide players gave...

31:03

gave them a lot of trouble in the wide

31:06

areas and they put in crosses and Ruchalovs into

31:08

a big lump. And he did pretty fucking well

31:10

considering he was up against Spelenkovich for a lot

31:12

of the time. Then in the second

31:14

half they changed to a back five and that

31:16

was the end of that until sort of 60

31:18

minutes or so when... The game state was the

31:20

bigger factor and Forrest dropped off too much and

31:22

we sort of threw some things at the wall,

31:24

I think. But I was actually quite happy with

31:26

the way that we, you know, it was exciting

31:28

to see us with a dribbly boy on the

31:30

right and half a dribbly boy on the left

31:32

for 45 minutes. It's one of

31:34

those ones where, and people

31:37

have made this point, but if this

31:39

game had come within like four wins

31:41

either side, we'd be like, ah. one

31:43

of them days we dominate the chances

31:45

the ball just didn't bounce right for

31:47

us but the truth is we have

31:49

actually been losing quite a lot of

31:51

games recently if you haven't noticed and

31:54

so it sucks and wow we are

31:56

so bad at defending in football I

31:58

mean, that's in the same way that

32:00

you control game state, you also control

32:02

narrative. If you do win a lot

32:04

of games, you're allowed to have an

32:06

off day, but you can't keep having

32:09

off days. I think the

32:11

biggest problem we've taught them in that

32:13

first half is, Forrest didn't have to

32:15

do much to Carvis open. They scored.

32:17

No. I thought Wood was onside for

32:19

the goal that got disallowed. I was

32:21

pretty in line with it. But then

32:23

VAR ruled out for a couple of

32:25

millimeters. They probably should have

32:27

been free new up and they didn't really

32:29

do anything. And that's the worrying thing

32:31

about this team right now that teams don't

32:33

have to do a lot to score a

32:35

goal. We've a gift them. We basically

32:37

we're gifting goals to everybody, apart from Frankfurt,

32:39

who just had a bad night. Yeah.

32:42

Yeah. Like I said, I think it's

32:44

simultaneous, you know, a little unlucky to

32:46

concede off the first couple of shots.

32:48

But we invite those situations and the

32:50

header for the for the second goal

32:52

is wait, is that the first goal?

32:54

No, the first goal is from the

32:56

corner. From the corner and it bounces

32:58

out. He runs past his man. But

33:00

that came about because they just played

33:02

a straight ball through the middle of

33:04

our team. Gibbs White, who looked good,

33:06

just spun and had a shot. And

33:08

there's that emptiness in front of our

33:10

defense where we could just put a

33:12

Johnny Cardozo figure just to block that

33:14

gap. And Bentoncore, he's

33:16

not six. He just wasn't

33:19

there. Yeah, man. Yeah. So

33:21

yeah, the first shot or the first

33:24

goal deflects off the underside of Bentoncore's

33:26

hamstring, probably snapping it for all we

33:28

know. A little unlucky,

33:30

but the second goal is is lack

33:32

of pressure on the cross, poor marking

33:34

from Romero and van de Ven, poor

33:36

aerial ability from Romero and van de

33:38

Ven. I don't think

33:40

either of them are very good

33:42

box defenders. I've said that before,

33:44

but I also think that we

33:46

aren't doing the right things in

33:48

terms of coaching to overcome those

33:50

deficiencies. Yeah, Boston Cogglibate. blamed a

33:52

lack of concentration in the post

33:55

match press conference. But it's like,

33:57

buddy, that's your job to show

33:59

them how to concentrate, you know,

34:01

to define their roles so they know

34:03

who's doing what. It's the

34:05

perfect storm of two centre backs who don't

34:07

attack the ball and a goalkeeper who's

34:10

unable to attack the ball. And

34:12

it is a recipe for disaster. I

34:14

thought we were much better in the

34:16

second half with Danzo and Davies against

34:18

that profile of team than we were

34:20

with them away with Romero and

34:22

Van de Ven, our first choice. Yeah, Postakoglu

34:25

said that that was a planned double substitution. I

34:27

would have thought if you were going to do

34:29

that, you might have one in the first half,

34:31

one in the second half, rather than both, take

34:33

them both off second half. But I think tactically

34:35

in the game, Forrest were giving all the time

34:37

in the world to our centre backs, so they

34:40

might as well have been Danzo and Davies. And

34:42

yeah, and those two can't defend their own box.

34:44

I have a question for you. How do

34:47

you feel about Kevin Danzo trying to be

34:49

Kevin de Bruyne? Yeah, this is this is

34:51

the little thing that he learned in his

34:53

last couple of years that Uh,

34:55

is it long? Um, the he, he's

34:57

not the most gifted past full times, but

34:59

he can carry and, and he can

35:01

back himself in the carry. And the thing,

35:03

the way that this was working out

35:05

is that he would pick his moments and

35:07

pick his spots, carry the ball forwards

35:10

and then go, Oh shit. Now I'm like

35:12

approaching the opposition's defense and no passes

35:14

have opened up. The idea of the carry,

35:16

as you do that, it just stabilizes

35:18

the opposition. Spurs players make a

35:20

movement off the ball and he can just

35:22

do a cute little. sideways offload, but he's

35:24

suddenly bursting forwards. And it's like,

35:26

Oh, I guess I'm, I'm Kevin De Bruyne.

35:28

Now I'm in the number 10 spot and I've

35:30

got to try and pick out like a

35:32

diagonal pass over the top because there isn't no

35:35

one's presented a safer pass for me. So kind

35:37

of funny how that worked out

35:39

a handful of times. I don't think

35:41

that's him going, fine, I'll

35:43

do it myself. That's him going, I'll

35:46

make this run to destabilise the opposition

35:48

and then someone can drop off and

35:50

I can offload the board, but he's

35:52

arrived in that situation and gone, fuck,

35:54

the only thing available to me is

35:56

like trying to de -broiner it into the

35:58

corridor of uncertainty. Or have a shot

36:00

with his left foot for 25 yards,

36:03

which... the intent and I applaud the

36:05

effort. But whose fault is that? Is

36:07

that Danzo's fault for just wandering into

36:09

that mess? Or someone should have

36:11

presented for it, no, surely. Yeah, I think

36:13

so. Someone should be giving him an out

36:15

when he carries forward in those situations. So

36:17

that's a training issue. But I admired his

36:19

gumption. I admired his desire. And

36:21

I thought it was kind of, it made

36:23

me smile in a game where I didn't smile very

36:26

often. Kevin Danzo in

36:28

the half spaces was

36:30

quite entertaining. Did

36:32

you see Romero's quotes? I've

36:35

seen them online since about, he's just

36:37

focusing on the next two months and he's

36:39

not thinking any further. Is that what

36:41

you said? Yeah, he did say

36:43

that. The reporter

36:45

asked, what's next for you? What do you plan

36:47

for your career? He says, well, I tried to

36:49

be above all else to always live day by

36:52

day. There are almost two months left until the

36:54

end of the season and my focus is always

36:56

on performing at my best and trying to finish

36:58

in the best way possible. This is translated, obviously.

37:00

Yeah. He says we're in the

37:02

Europa League semi -final, which is an important

37:04

step for the club. After so many years

37:06

of not making it this far in

37:08

Europe, I can say I'm happy because in

37:10

the end I'd like to win it.

37:12

It depends on many things. But yeah, after

37:14

this, when the season ends, we'll see.

37:16

Honestly, I haven't spoken with my agent yet,

37:18

but I'm open to anything. My mindset

37:20

is always about growing, also about going to

37:22

new places to keep developing. But I

37:24

don't want to talk about that just yet

37:26

because we're still here. There are a

37:28

few months left before the season ends. And

37:31

the reporter says, which league that you

37:33

haven't played in, would you like to play

37:35

in? in how you see it. And

37:37

Romero says, yes, the league I'm missing is

37:39

La Liga. I'd love to see Spain.

37:41

I'd love to play there because that's the

37:43

one I haven't played in yet. Yeah,

37:45

which is fair enough. It's a fair enough

37:47

quote. I do think if we win

37:49

the Europa League and we're in the Champions

37:51

League and they make a positive appointment

37:53

in terms of management, then I see him

37:55

staying. But if we don't win that,

37:57

if we don't win it, I think it

37:59

could be a bin fire this summer

38:01

with him. Lots of fans are quite upset

38:03

with him as a Co -Captain or a

38:05

Vice -Captain or whatever he is. Yeah, Co

38:07

-Vice -Captain saying that. You're not too upset

38:09

with him. You think it's a realistic thing

38:11

to be saying when you're stubs in

38:13

17. Romero is one of the best full

38:15

-plane defenders in the world. I think what

38:17

Romero said is fair enough for... course,

38:19

I don't like it when players talk about

38:21

going elsewhere to fulfill their dreams when

38:23

they failed at Tottenham. But I don't

38:26

think it's anything bad in what he said

38:28

there. He wants to go to Spain. I

38:30

mean, who doesn't want to play in the

38:32

Liga at some point? I think it's fair

38:34

enough. I think the reporters kind of got

38:36

him a little bit snuck, so he didn't

38:38

want to give. Otherwise, no one would care

38:40

about this reporter. Otherwise, no one would have

38:42

read his words. So he had to get

38:44

something juicy out of it. Romero's obliged. reading

38:47

between the lines. Ultimately, I think

38:49

if Tottenham win Europa League, get

38:51

to the Champions League next season,

38:53

the whole mindset of the club

38:55

switches and it becomes, next season

38:57

is a real opportunity just to

38:59

fix things. Otherwise, we go back

39:01

into rebuilding and everything else. Winning

39:04

this Europa League, I'm going

39:06

to be dramatic now, but I

39:08

think it's really important for

39:10

us. It's incredibly important. Is it

39:12

a crossroads? Maybe. But

39:15

the difference between winning something going

39:17

to the Champions League, going

39:19

to the European Super Cup final

39:21

against hopefully PSG or Barcelona. that

39:24

elevates the club. You go from

39:26

like Europa League champions, you never sing

39:28

that to like to a playing

39:31

like second round of the Carlin Cup

39:33

or whatever. It's it's big. It's

39:35

a big jump that these two games,

39:37

these three games, hopefully are huge.

39:39

Really, you can't understate how big they

39:41

are. You wouldn't you wouldn't put

39:43

Dancer in for Romero for the last

39:45

three big games based on his

39:47

heading ability then. No, no, no, no,

39:49

no, play Romero, play Van der

39:51

Ven, but be willing to insert Kevin

39:53

at when needed. A

39:56

moment on Thursday, or maybe it

39:58

was Friday, where I was flicking

40:00

between Twitter notifications open and one

40:02

tab, I had Blue Sky notifications

40:04

open and one tab. And one,

40:07

they were saying, you know, Romero is our

40:09

real captain. He actually plays better when

40:11

Sun's not on the pitch because it gives

40:13

him the space to be the leader.

40:15

And then on Blue Sky, someone was saying,

40:17

we should be playing dance or over

40:19

Romero. Romero has been playing like crap recently.

40:22

It's we're so bad that takes

40:24

a while. Like, the charlissans are

40:26

better forward than Salanki. No, he's

40:28

not. This takes a while, but

40:30

this is what happens when you

40:32

play this bad. You open the

40:34

door to wildness. Talking of wild

40:36

takes, there was this tweet from

40:38

Alex. What's Alex's

40:40

surname? Oh, sorry, mate.

40:42

I forgot. At Euroexpert underscore

40:44

on Twitter. He's a... Football

40:46

analyst works with Tifo, but

40:49

been a been a good talent scout for

40:51

a while. He says looking at Spurs fans

40:53

opinions on Matty's tail is wild. It's either

40:55

he's incredible or we should absolutely not sign

40:57

him. And I saw that tweet and I

41:00

thought, yeah, both those positions are quite reasonable.

41:02

Actually, you can hold both at the same

41:04

time, to be honest. I quite

41:06

like moments of tell and then

41:08

other moments. I don't he's 19

41:10

man. He's still 19. He's very

41:12

young. He's got a long way

41:14

to go. I remember looking

41:16

at Rafael Liao when he was that

41:18

age and going, oh, I don't know.

41:21

Yeah, sometimes he looked wild. Other times

41:23

he looked like a cage panther that

41:25

he could do anything. But most of

41:27

the time he looked terrible. And you

41:29

just mature players mature. Are we willing

41:32

to take 50 million pound bet on

41:34

a player that could mature into something

41:36

great? I don't know. I don't

41:38

know, man, whether we've got the money

41:40

or the patience to do that. But

41:42

he's not a disaster. No, he's not

41:44

a disaster. No. I think if you

41:46

go back and watch Sun's first season

41:48

at Spurs, you see something pretty similar

41:50

there, right? And both of them have...

41:53

artful levels of ball striking ability. That's

41:55

the real thing that both of

41:57

them properly have. Extraordinary

42:01

strikers of the ball. I think it's

42:03

just a price tag. It's £50 million

42:05

for such a... For another... undeveloped player

42:07

who's not ready yet for the level

42:09

that we need from the squad right

42:11

now especially difficult especially if we go

42:13

straight to champions league next year you

42:15

know yeah yeah there's a reason why

42:17

there's a reason why bastard buying weren't

42:19

playing him that regularly because he's not

42:21

he's not ready for it yet James

42:23

Marlowe ask what are your guys favorite

42:25

cliches from the Spurs fandom at the

42:27

moment some of mine are you don't

42:30

have the stomach for a rebuilds transition

42:32

season and trust the process Part

42:34

of the problem, quite enjoy that.

42:36

I've been accused of being part

42:38

the problem because I go. Someone

42:41

said to me last night, if

42:43

you don't like it, don't watch. And

42:45

I'm like, okay, it's not Birdsong

42:47

or whatever that film is. I'm just

42:49

going to put a blindfold because

42:51

Sandra Bullock won't wish you can't see

42:53

anything. Is it Birdsong? No, Bird

42:55

Box. Just

42:57

imagine. That would get you

42:59

on social media. You turn up to the

43:02

stadium and just, I'm coming because I have to,

43:04

but I'm refusing to watch a minute of

43:06

it. Just putting a bandage across your eyes so

43:08

you don't have to look at it like

43:10

this year or whatever. It's a good job you've

43:12

said that, you know, 45 minutes into the

43:14

podcast when the purple of golds have already stopped

43:16

listening. Part of

43:18

the problem. Yeah, that's a

43:21

common one as well. And

43:23

then, of course, around the stadium, there's always

43:25

movement. Movement on

43:27

them. It's always been my

43:29

favorite movement. There's no movement,

43:32

or you're asleep. They're

43:35

coming with my favorite ones. The

43:40

stomach for the rebuild thing, I

43:42

don't know, it's an interesting one. There's

43:45

like, there's a romance, right?

43:48

There's a real, there's a story

43:50

to be told that kind of,

43:52

you know, calls back to sort of

43:54

60 70s taught them the idea

43:56

of like having a manager and they

43:59

come in and they get relegated

44:01

and then they bring the club back

44:03

up and then they win the

44:05

league and I get relegated again and

44:07

they come back up they win

44:09

the league a second time you know

44:11

that's like oh you know if

44:13

we just we just stick the path

44:15

here we can really turn things

44:18

around and I I totally I get

44:20

the poetry I totally understand the

44:22

appeal of like earning it the hard

44:24

way and and, you know, honouring

44:26

loyalty above all else. I totally, I

44:28

totally see the angle of that.

44:30

I just don't think that that works

44:32

in modern football. I don't think

44:35

that that is how coaches develop anymore.

44:37

I don't think, you know, that

44:39

made sense in the 60s, 70s, 80s

44:41

because... Yeah, less games, less

44:43

games, no Europe. And

44:45

things, things were a slower pace

44:47

as well. You could, you're right. You

44:49

could do a season and... something

44:51

and then buy one player and then

44:53

improve and then and that one

44:55

player would be transformative and that just

44:57

that just isn't that just isn't

44:59

how it works with the role of

45:02

the manager back then was to

45:04

scout talent and and Galvanize players and

45:06

get them to buy in and

45:08

believe and then the players did what

45:10

mattered on the pitch and that's

45:12

just not what the That's that's very

45:14

very different almost opposite to what

45:16

the modern coach does and I look

45:18

at the tactical decisions and the

45:20

tactics preparations that Adj is putting in

45:22

for these games at the moment

45:24

and I just don't think he's performing

45:26

up to the level of the

45:28

league that we play in. And to

45:31

be honest, has there been a

45:33

rebuild in modern day football? Like

45:35

the club? I don't think club I

45:37

think that's I think that's a reasonable one.

45:39

I think I think you can find

45:41

a good handful of those. Yeah, absolutely. You

45:43

can call those rebuilds and and I

45:45

think we're undergoing one now, but that necessarily

45:48

mean sticking with the same coach. We've

45:50

brought through these younger talents, you know, bug,

45:52

Vaughan, Oda, Baron and Gray, and we'll

45:54

still be bringing them through under a new

45:56

coach playing football that isn't too dissimilar

45:58

to the football that we play now. just

46:00

with the coach who has a better

46:02

pressing system, you know, that's still seeing the

46:04

process through. And we didn't begin that

46:06

process under Conte. We didn't begin that process

46:08

really under Nuno. We were reversing against

46:10

that process under Mourinho when we should have

46:13

begun it sooner. But I do believe

46:15

that we've begun it now. I just don't

46:17

believe that it is absolutely attached to

46:19

the coach. We can still go through that

46:21

process that we're going through now, but

46:23

I think we'll, um, we'll be fruitful in

46:25

the future without necessarily having to stick

46:27

with the same coach through the process. Like

46:29

we could change coach two or three

46:31

times in that, in that process even. And

46:33

I think it will still be part

46:35

of the same process. Yeah. I think I'd

46:37

like to think that we've rebuilt. I'd

46:39

like to think that the squad we have

46:42

now has been rebuilt and Poster Coglu

46:44

has played his role in that. And now

46:46

it's. time to hand the keys over

46:48

to somebody else who can manage. I think

46:50

we need someone else who can manage

46:52

the game state better, manage the team, manage

46:54

the training. Yeah, I think Postercoglu,

46:56

as I said, in 10 years' time, we'll

46:58

look back, hopefully, on this period of time

47:00

and go, Postercoglu, do you know what he

47:02

did all right? He had some bad times,

47:04

but ultimately his tenure was net good for

47:07

the club. had this question on blue sky

47:09

from skipjack of wheeler dealer radio plus some

47:11

episodes out mate come on um they're not

47:13

recording they're not recording no no no um

47:15

uh but i got this he sent me

47:17

this on blue sky so they haven't watched

47:19

your new video yet this is referring to

47:21

the thomas frank video i did go and

47:23

watch that um so i apologize if you

47:25

did address this i didn't He says but

47:28

I'm curious if there's anything you've learned from

47:30

the and experience that is making you look

47:32

at new potential managers differently than you used

47:34

to and they actually really really like this

47:36

question So I said I wanted to take

47:38

it on the podcast and the reason I

47:40

really really like this question is because the

47:42

answer is no Not really no No, and

47:44

I was I was thinking on this because

47:46

I was reflecting on this recently, like, you

47:49

know, you go back to 2023 and we

47:51

had, we were looking on a slot, we

47:53

nearly, very nearly signed on a slot and

47:55

we were looking at Postercold Glue and we

47:57

tried to go for slot and it fell

47:59

through and then we settled for Postercold Glue

48:01

and I had them the other way around

48:03

in terms of priority on my head, in

48:05

my head. And that is a position that

48:07

certainly appears to have aged very, very poorly,

48:09

right? I think that's fair to say. And

48:13

I was thinking like, what did I get wrong? What

48:15

can I learn from that experience? I

48:17

genuinely think, I genuinely think

48:20

I did something tangible that you can, that

48:22

you can hold against me. I think that, I

48:24

think that, me defending

48:26

myself, but like... Ultimately,

48:31

you're judging a potential manager

48:33

on what is important to you.

48:35

So you've looked at post -acogglue

48:38

and he's ticked what you

48:40

want to see from a manager.

48:42

So when you said you

48:44

wanted post -acogglue, you are not

48:46

incorrect. There's no right or wrong

48:48

here. You've looked at post -acogglue and gone,

48:50

I quite like that. And

48:52

I don't think... for as long as I've

48:55

known you, I don't think that is

48:57

going to change you in what you'd want

48:59

to see from the next manager. I

49:01

still think those, the qualities that you saw

49:03

in post -acoggle, what you will look for

49:05

again in the next manager and the

49:07

next manager, because that's what the type of

49:09

football that you believe in and that

49:11

you want to see. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. But

49:14

like, on a slot, football really wasn't

49:16

very different from that at Feyenoord, right? So

49:18

both of them were like, they structure

49:20

possession. They've got modern ideas that they use

49:22

the full backs in. inverted ways that's

49:24

the end thing. You know,

49:26

they both sort of attempt to attack the

49:28

final third in similar ways, although it

49:30

was working a lot better for Posterkoglu than

49:32

it was. You know, Feyenoord were much

49:35

more reliant on their wingers, funnily enough, than

49:37

Celtic were. Celtic did more with their

49:39

rotations and their in -fields play. So

49:41

I had question marks over both coaches.

49:43

I said, does Arne Schlot's final third play

49:46

scale up to a Premier League level?

49:48

And I said, does Posterkoglu's pressing game scale

49:50

up to the Premier League, right? None

49:52

of the coaches at the time and

49:54

none of the coaches now come without

49:56

question marks. And I really believe

49:58

if someone is sitting there and saying, I

50:00

knew back in 2023, I knew that. Postacoglu's

50:02

pressing would be a problem, and Harneslott's final

50:04

third play wouldn't be a problem. I think

50:06

they're lying to you. I think that they're

50:08

trying to sell you snake oil. And that's

50:10

the same for now. I look at the

50:12

coaches available, and I say, I like this

50:14

guy, I like this guy, I like this

50:16

guy. Each of them have some question marks.

50:19

Each of them, maybe they

50:21

haven't coached in the top five league. Well,

50:23

and that was the case for both

50:25

Slott and Postacoglu. They have coached in Serie

50:27

A, but I actually think the gap

50:29

between Serie A and the Premier League is

50:31

actually really quite big now. Again, I

50:33

refer back to 16th. place Tottenham beating third

50:35

place Frankfurt over two legs, right? And

50:37

you might say, I just worry about how

50:39

this part of this game works, or I worry

50:41

if you don't have this particular player, how

50:43

this part of this coaches game works. And that's

50:45

the best you can do. You look at

50:47

the information that's available to you. Do they do

50:49

the team possess the ball? Do they have

50:52

good patterns of play? Are they doing interesting ideas

50:54

with their position game? Are they pressing well?

50:56

Are they winning the ball high? Are they adjusting

50:58

to their oppositions? They work well with the

51:00

direction of football? Are they promoting youth players? Have

51:02

they continued to find success after the sale

51:04

of a previous key player? These are all

51:07

the things that you're looking at and then

51:09

you try one of those coaches and you

51:11

hope for the best and you hope that

51:13

they are able to scale up to the

51:15

level. The only other way around that is

51:17

to take an existing Premier League coach. You

51:19

look at the available Premier League coaches right

51:22

now and they aren't playing that. right kind

51:24

of football. The ones that are are, you

51:26

know, Pep Guardiola. Great. Go out and get

51:28

Pep Guardiola for Tottenham. Good idea, right? It

51:30

just doesn't, the perfect Kansas that doesn't exist

51:32

except he's Nuggetsman, but he's staying with Germany

51:34

for the World Cup. So other than that,

51:36

the perfect Kansas doesn't get, you get a

51:39

short list of coaches who play the right

51:41

way and you hope for the best. And

51:43

that's what we did with Postacoglu and it

51:45

didn't work out and you just rolled the

51:47

dice again. That's it. I agree. I think

51:49

what we need to be better at is

51:51

rolling, is rolling the dice quicker and faster,

51:53

not waiting, not waiting for

51:56

the situation to spiral out of

51:58

control. I think after Postacoglio have

52:00

said a couple of times, I would like

52:02

to see a manager that's a bit more

52:04

flexible and can adapt a bit better. Like,

52:06

obviously, you know, in Zaggy is the like

52:08

one of the top managers. We're not going

52:10

to get into Simone in Zaggy, but he's

52:12

a guy that he has his principles of

52:14

how he wants to play. but he's been

52:17

quite good at changing. He's

52:19

improved a lot of players. He's taken

52:21

a lot of junk on and improved them.

52:23

They've learned new roles. They've always stuck

52:25

with an assistant, but he's had to also

52:27

move on players. He's had to lose

52:29

players. He's had a bit of change up

52:31

in how they've done, but they

52:33

remain consistent. They've remained pretty consistent. Possibly

52:35

they'll be heading towards if they beat

52:37

Barcelona. They're what their second Champions League final

52:39

in three years That's that's quite going

52:42

for an Italian team that you know Italian

52:44

teams haven't done anything in Europe for

52:46

a long time And then what I quite

52:48

like about the Thomas Frank thing is

52:50

the ability to change it up. He can

52:52

go long He can you can roll

52:54

around in a mud but he can also

52:56

get this place to play decent football

52:58

and I don't to spoil your video But

53:00

you you seem to be more positive

53:02

on him than you have been on other

53:05

current Premier League managers Yeah. Yeah. I

53:07

warmed to him a sort of

53:09

throughout the length of the video

53:11

I did on him. I still

53:13

think that like, Iriola has this

53:15

kind of mystery box element. This

53:17

kind of curious about his development

53:19

as a coach. I probably need

53:21

to watch some more recent Bournemouth.

53:23

But then Lynx have died down

53:25

with Areola. There's a suggestion that

53:27

he wants to stay another season

53:29

at Bournemouth, so I haven't bothered

53:31

going back. But there isn't a

53:33

sort of a sexiness and an

53:35

appeal to Areola. But

53:37

yeah, with Frank there... With

53:40

Frank there were some positive signs, but they

53:42

were from his from his championship team Which

53:45

was appropriate to the level that he was

53:47

playing at the championship but not enough to

53:49

make me go Wow, like this is really

53:51

good football. I think the scale is up

53:53

So to death again some question marks just

53:55

like there are over any of them man

53:57

We were talking about 2023 summer we were

53:59

linked winzaghi at the time I think and

54:01

I remember the time going oh really? Oh,

54:04

I haven't really watched his football. I don't

54:06

know about him and into and now making

54:08

a function not just functional field

54:10

three of kind of Nogu,

54:12

Mkhitaryan and Barela, but like they

54:14

are hard to score against.

54:16

And that's three number tens as

54:18

far as I'm concerned. And

54:21

Damian, you know, he's

54:23

got Damian playing wing back

54:25

or center back. So

54:27

with Lazio, before he went to Inter,

54:29

Lazio were on the verge of winning

54:31

Serie A until COVID hit. And then

54:34

they broke, obviously there was the break

54:36

for COVID and Lazio crumbled, there's nothing

54:38

left. But there was a, we saw

54:40

enough from his time at Lazio that

54:42

there was something special about it. Well,

54:44

maybe it was 2021, not 2023 that

54:46

we were linked to in Zaga. Maybe

54:48

I'm getting that mixed up. Anyway, yeah,

54:50

we ain't getting him. No. We

54:52

ain't getting Nuggets Moon and

54:55

we ain't getting Javi Alonso and

54:57

we probably ain't getting Honez

54:59

realistically. So we've got to pick someone

55:01

who's got question marks over the heads, and

55:03

we've got a hope for the best, and we've

55:05

got to do the best talent scouting that

55:07

we can. Here's one thing I've been thinking about.

55:10

Back when we hired Pochettino... were some

55:12

pretty fucking rough coaches in the

55:14

Premier League back then. And there was

55:16

a big tactical jump in terms

55:19

of the way that teams were pressing.

55:21

Pressing was coming to the Premier

55:23

League at that time. Pocitino and then

55:25

Klopp. And there was a modernisation

55:27

in the Premier League. There was a

55:29

modernisation of the elite level of

55:31

football. And now... There are,

55:34

in my opinion, plenty of good

55:36

candidates. Not plenty, but a good few

55:38

candidates. Candidates who structure their position,

55:40

candidates who press high, candidates who develop

55:42

young players, candidates who work under

55:44

a direct football. I'm not saying there

55:46

are a dime a dozen, but

55:49

I'm saying that there are some decent

55:51

options out there. And I think

55:53

that things are circling back around again,

55:55

where because there are 10, 15,

55:57

20 good coaches, player talent, has

55:59

come back around to be more decisive

56:01

than it was 10 years ago. Okay.

56:03

And And we've been recruiting some

56:05

good young talents. So I think things

56:08

can work out for us that

56:10

way. I think that we can keep

56:12

recruiting well and and, and players

56:14

can be decisive. We, you know, you

56:16

get in a good enough coach

56:18

who does good enough possession, who does

56:20

good enough pressing, who adapts well

56:22

enough, who develops young players well enough,

56:24

and, and talent can really make

56:26

the difference there to make it to

56:28

the next level. You been listening

56:30

to The H, me, Windy, my sidekick

56:32

best friend Barney, and our tactics

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