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And we're live on the on the

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first, first time time in for for

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Welcome full nerd We're not, this everybody

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we're not uh this isn't

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the full episode that want

0:10

to say and is me and

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Brad getting on some some

0:15

quick updates following Gordon's passing, talk a passing

0:17

bit about CES, a little bit about

0:19

CES, but really we're here to give

0:21

some updates and kind of the some

0:23

of the questions that people have had

0:25

and also play a special message we

0:27

have we from Gordon's family, so. So, Oh

0:30

yeah, yeah, cry. Yeah, so yeah, thanks so yeah,

0:32

thanks for for joining me, Brad.

0:34

I know you've got a lot

0:36

of stuff going on stuff going on. I

0:38

for the world. this for the world. Yeah, and

0:40

yeah, like I Like I said, it's just us,

0:42

not a full episode. We're not gonna

0:44

go too much into detail. much in detail. But

0:47

yeah, felt like we wanted

0:49

of provide some updates on... some

0:51

updates on on what happened with Gordon. Obviously if

0:53

I I guess I guess if would

0:55

assume most people have seen

0:57

the news, if you haven't,

0:59

Gordon passed away on December

1:01

Gordon passed It was a... 21st

1:03

It was a Yeah, he he was was

1:06

battling cancer cancer he he loved to

1:08

a while, but he loved

1:10

to continue to chase

1:12

stories I mean we in it.

1:14

And to talk to talk days before

1:16

to the days before

1:18

his passing, I was able

1:20

to have one last

1:22

phone call with him. before then

1:24

so that was then. to me was special

1:26

to me. And he definitely was

1:28

about about how much the folder

1:31

meant to him. there was a It was

1:33

a special thing for him. So

1:35

so yeah yeah yeah it was fun I sitting here.

1:37

Yeah. last few months I've been

1:39

texting Gordon I've been texting

1:41

Gordon regularly. awesome awesome all the text

1:44

text messages are still, still you know, what do you think

1:46

about this new chip? What do you think about this

1:48

announcement? what do you think about this And

1:51

then then uh know, even a

1:53

couple of weeks ago, we

1:55

were relentlessly ago we were relentlessly should

1:57

just good. the Raiders. life is definitely. yeah,

1:59

definitely. And yeah. I want to thank all

2:01

the well wishes for sure everyone's

2:03

been super supportive. Steve did an

2:05

amazing video kind of recounting his

2:07

favorite memories of Gordon and how

2:09

he's going to help uphold his

2:11

legacy on the deeper reporting stuff

2:13

which was awesome. Yeah please. I'm

2:15

guessing a lot of people may

2:17

have already seen Steve's video. But

2:19

if you haven't watched that yet

2:21

and you were touched by Gordon

2:23

in your life, I highly recommend

2:25

going to watch that. Like everything's,

2:27

Steve nailed pretty much my exact

2:29

sentiments as well. And you could

2:32

tell me a lot to him

2:34

and it's well worth the watch,

2:36

especially to get to the end

2:38

full of clips. Yeah, yeah, Ian

2:40

went live, had a nice little

2:42

chat there. I mean, yeah, a

2:44

lot of people showed the support,

2:46

so I really appreciated it, a

2:48

lot of messages, a lot of

2:50

messages. Definitely, definitely thankful for that

2:52

kind of stuff. Yeah, I guess,

2:54

yeah, not much else to get

2:56

into other than the, like he

2:58

very much, he was very appreciative

3:00

of the full nerd in the

3:02

community was definitely a big thing

3:04

and even said the words like,

3:06

you know, he's glad he went

3:08

from just being a writer to

3:10

a YouTube star, which I thought.

3:12

Was funny and I take no

3:14

credit on that. I just knew

3:16

to turn on a camera and

3:18

pointed towards him But like definitely

3:20

it was one of those things

3:22

where he appreciated being able to

3:24

do a lot of video here

3:26

And he did video in the

3:29

past obviously at maximum PC and

3:31

Sophia, but like video was was

3:33

definitely a big part of his

3:35

journey and he appreciated it and

3:37

so I appreciate it too because

3:39

it was able to get Kiera

3:41

Rogordan on camera It also made

3:43

it so I didn't have to

3:45

edit his words because he's a

3:47

tremendous writer but the all the

3:49

assides everything you see on Gordon

3:51

on camera It's the same thing

3:53

in the copy. And I just

3:55

love the people who would see

3:57

it. Yeah, yeah, I love pointing

3:59

a camera at Gordon. And once

4:01

again to, you know, even while

4:03

he was dealing with cancer, he

4:05

was still working on videos, still

4:07

showing up to the podcast. There

4:09

was a lot of talk about

4:11

like, what was the final video

4:13

he did, which was covering the

4:15

9800X3D review. But I will I

4:17

would like to point out like

4:19

the the last the last full

4:21

testing that he did because the

4:23

the review video for the the

4:26

CPU and Help me do the

4:28

testing I still did physically did

4:30

the testing testing so kind of

4:32

the The last videos in my

4:34

mind are the ones that he

4:36

poured everything into were those final

4:38

laptop videos. So it was the

4:40

Qualcomm, then Verizon AI 300, then

4:42

Lunar Lake. He did all that

4:44

testing. He, you know, just, that

4:46

was his last, you know, really

4:48

getting deep into the benchmarks and

4:50

presenting all of his data. And

4:52

I remember also when the announcements

4:54

came out, he did that video

4:56

like framing it. like the fight

4:58

between Drake and Kendrick Lamar like

5:00

he's like what if the what

5:02

if the thumbnail says something along

5:04

the lines of like you know

5:06

Intel and AMD battle that's the

5:08

the most epic thing since Kendrick

5:10

Lamar and Drake or something I

5:12

can't remember the exact yeah I

5:14

was just like I don't know

5:16

if anyone's gonna get that but

5:18

sure you know So, uh, it

5:20

always blows my mind how Gordon,

5:23

like, is very up to date

5:25

with, you know, like, news and

5:27

trends. And pop culture. With pop

5:29

culture, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, he

5:31

was, he was always up on

5:33

that for sure. So that was,

5:35

uh, that was fun. Yeah. So,

5:37

so in my mind, those were

5:39

kind of the last final videos

5:41

that he did, like, just really

5:43

pouring everything into. Obviously did videos

5:45

after that as well, you know,

5:47

that he, he really cared about

5:49

and helped out with testing. and

5:51

all that kind of stuff. But

5:53

yeah, those are good videos. I'm

5:55

kind of glad those were some

5:57

of his last videos because, forget

5:59

which one it was, Lunar Lake

6:01

maybe, the one where he used,

6:03

he connected the two computers, the

6:05

two laptops, and then controlled them

6:07

the exact same. Yeah. And to

6:09

use that to determine real world

6:11

battery life. That's something he has

6:13

thought of and has had Bruin

6:15

for years. Oh, yes. Wasn't the

6:17

difficulty to set up forever? Yeah.

6:20

And that was the ideal situation

6:22

for that test that he's been

6:24

working on the year for years

6:26

to shine. And I think that's

6:28

just a testament to Gordon. Yeah,

6:30

I had actually, at the time,

6:32

I was like, man, I kind

6:34

of think you should do that

6:36

almost as a separate, whole separate

6:38

video, which he, I think he

6:40

did do a follow-up. version of

6:42

that but yeah I was just

6:44

like that's as like the real

6:46

world testing of laptop is literally

6:48

just using two laptops at the

6:50

same time doing the exact same

6:52

thing he loved that idea so

6:54

I'm yeah I'm glad he was

6:56

able to get that in if

6:58

you haven't seen that you should

7:00

definitely go back and watch that

7:02

we're really really classic gored stuff

7:04

I mean testing was at his

7:06

heart we were just talking about

7:08

here we're we're obviously packing for

7:10

CES and getting all the gear

7:12

together and I was talking with

7:14

Alex and I was like, oh,

7:17

be sure to bring card readers.

7:19

And he's like, oh, I have

7:21

a built in card reader on

7:23

my laptop. And I was like,

7:25

well, you know, sometimes they actually

7:27

cheap out and use a lower

7:29

spec. you might actually get faster

7:31

speeds over external car reading. He's

7:33

like, really? And I was like,

7:35

I was like, man, that is,

7:37

that is one of those things

7:39

that Gordon would dive into and

7:41

be like, yeah, let's sit down,

7:43

let's get these laptops. So let's

7:45

do the deep testing that's, that's

7:47

a totally a Gordon thing to

7:49

do for sure. So, we have

7:51

the most exclusively exhaustive USBC table

7:53

roundup on the internet. Yeah, yeah,

7:55

for sure. Anyway, yeah, some other

7:57

technical stuff. I talked about this

7:59

in Discord because there was a

8:01

couple questions. There is a Go

8:03

Fund me. Thank you so much

8:05

for the support. Everybody's been sharing

8:07

it around. Amazing contributions, like, just

8:09

so happy about that. That is

8:11

something I was definitely taking serious

8:14

and really appreciate. And the family

8:16

is just floored by it. So

8:18

I'm glad we got that set

8:20

up there. There was some questions

8:22

like, oh hey, because the organizer

8:24

is a gentleman by the name

8:26

of Chris Bach, which I had

8:28

never met until recently. I've been

8:30

chatting with him. That is actually

8:32

Gordon's cousin. So this is the

8:34

legit go fund me and the

8:36

beneficiary that they added later was

8:38

Dara Tom, which if you don't

8:40

know that's actually Gordon's wife. So

8:42

yes, it is. This is the

8:44

official go fund me. I actually

8:46

need to link to it. right

8:48

now, because I forgot, or if

8:50

you don't mind maybe doing that,

8:52

Willis. So yeah. If you need

8:54

to check a link for whatever

8:56

reason, just go, we have our

8:58

obituary up and we made sure.

9:00

We have various articles up. Yes,

9:02

yeah, I'm sorry. Yeah, I forgot

9:04

to mention that. Yeah, John had

9:06

an amazing obituary on the website,

9:08

including a ton of memories that

9:11

the people around the industry were

9:13

able to provide. So if you

9:15

haven't read that or if you

9:17

haven't read it since the news,

9:19

maybe go back because he's actually

9:21

added a lot of stuff as

9:23

well. Brad, you had a really

9:25

good story about Gordon. There was

9:27

a standalone article. Yes after dark

9:29

baby. And yes I saw some

9:31

people in the chat earlier asking

9:33

about super chat stuff and the

9:35

and if the there's technical stuff

9:37

I need to figure out but

9:39

at this point like thank you

9:41

I appreciate that but if if

9:43

you feel the need to give

9:45

a super chat anytime soon maybe

9:47

please direct it over at the

9:49

the go fund me I would

9:51

appreciate that no pressure of course

9:53

but yeah for for right now

9:55

I'm actually kind of glad we

9:57

don't have super chats enabled because

9:59

I would much rather have that

10:01

money go to his family yeah

10:03

so it's I'm glad it turned

10:05

out so well we have good

10:08

insurance here we actually have really

10:10

good insurance here in this company

10:12

the way we've handled not we

10:14

but they have handled everything like

10:16

makes me really appreciate the company

10:18

but Gordon fought this a lot

10:20

longer than most people do with

10:22

this specific diagnosis. Like it usually

10:24

is a couple of months. He

10:26

held out for over a year

10:28

and a half. Yeah. And those

10:30

in the US health care system,

10:32

those costs add up. So thank

10:34

you to everybody who has, you

10:36

know, Gordon's wife and kids are

10:38

going through enough stress right now.

10:40

This, I'm sure, takes a lot

10:42

of that stress off of their

10:44

shoulders. So thank you for everyone

10:46

who has contributed to that. Yes,

10:48

definitely. This is our experience. Yeah,

10:50

yeah, right. I mean, it's, we're

10:52

figuring out in real time, so

10:54

I appreciate everybody. I did have

10:56

coffee with Gordon's wife, Dara, the

10:58

other day, just kind of going

11:00

over some stuff and we had

11:02

some fun memories to share and

11:05

talk about some future stuff, but

11:07

I did ask her. You know

11:09

did because people have been asking

11:11

me hey did the family know

11:13

Gordon was so beloved in the

11:15

industry like it like literally a

11:17

legend in the industry and and

11:19

so I did ask her that

11:21

and she was like you know

11:23

in in more or less no

11:25

because they got to see Gordon

11:27

at home right they you get

11:29

to see Gordon testing boxes pile

11:31

up hardware everywhere I mean that's

11:33

it happens to all of us

11:35

right and you know. See him

11:37

talk about stuff of course and

11:39

obviously put in his passion and

11:41

love for it He was obviously

11:43

in love with with what he

11:45

did But yeah, like she she

11:47

did not I did I got

11:49

the sense that they did not

11:51

fully understand the breadth of it,

11:53

the support, like how much he

11:55

has affected this industry and affected

11:57

so many people in it, right?

11:59

Like, not only from somebody like

12:02

me who started to learn to

12:04

build PCs from people like Gordon,

12:06

but also like, you know, you

12:08

reading him and being able to

12:10

be able to write a Maxim

12:12

PC. Yeah, yeah, that's what I

12:14

said in Leblurb there. I wish

12:16

I had to do when he

12:18

was alive. But it's always kind

12:20

of weird, you know, working with

12:22

someone and be like, hey man,

12:24

I used to read you and

12:26

boot when I was a teenager.

12:28

That made me want to do

12:30

what I do. And so that's

12:32

my part in the obituary. I

12:34

wish I had said it to

12:36

when he was alive. So you

12:38

have anything like that about anybody

12:40

in your life. Maybe we'll give

12:42

him a hug and let him

12:44

know what's up by him and

12:46

beer. Yeah, I mean, and there's

12:48

so much that's come out over

12:50

this too that's come out over

12:52

this too that people that people

12:54

that people that people didn't really

12:56

understand, not only about. Gordon, but

12:59

you know, vice versa, there's been

13:01

a lot of good pictures being

13:03

shown of Gordon with his family

13:05

and stuff. And I've definitely seen

13:07

messages of people being like, oh,

13:09

wow, you know, I mean, he

13:11

was a private person. By design,

13:13

he was a very private person.

13:15

So, you know, he didn't talk

13:17

about it too much, which is

13:19

completely fine. the go fund me

13:21

was he had messaged me he's

13:23

like hey you know we set

13:25

this up you know do you

13:27

think you can maybe share it

13:29

with some people and I was

13:31

just like hey don't worry man

13:33

give me the like we're gonna

13:35

hit the ground running don't you

13:37

worry about that so yeah he

13:39

was he was definitely floored by

13:41

that and And so it's it's

13:43

all appreciated for sure. And I

13:45

definitely want to give out a

13:47

shout out to not only Brad,

13:49

because I mean, you know, we

13:51

were talking through all this stuff

13:53

and trying to work together, you

13:56

know, through this time, but also

13:58

John. Phillips our boss is actually

14:00

in in the chat and and

14:02

a lot of people might not

14:04

know this but I mean John

14:06

John originally hired Gordon for boot

14:08

when Gordon you know got into

14:10

this industry so and then also

14:12

brought John from maximum PC to

14:14

PC world so like John has

14:16

been very instrumental in in getting

14:18

Gordon where where he he needed

14:20

to be and kind of seeing

14:22

that and also I mean the

14:24

pivot to pivot to I just

14:26

said that. And also Gordon doing

14:28

video, he understood that Gordon was

14:30

so beloved on video and helped

14:32

to unleash that as well. So

14:34

thank you John, we all work

14:36

together. I mean, that's what I

14:38

love also about this PC World

14:40

team is everybody's here, everybody's supportive

14:42

of each other and obviously Gordon

14:44

impacted all of us in major

14:46

ways. So. Definitely. Yeah. Most of

14:48

the people on staff here. We

14:50

don't have a lot of turn

14:53

over here and a lot of

14:55

people actually did come from maximum

14:57

PC feature kind of a deal.

14:59

I used to freelance with them,

15:01

I've been the freelance for PC

15:03

gamer etc. So a lot of

15:05

people on staff have known Gordon

15:07

10, 15, 20 plus years. So.

15:09

Yeah, no, and I mean, I

15:11

was even, I was talking to

15:13

Steve. We had a phone call

15:15

too and and and I was

15:17

just like, yeah, like, like I

15:19

was listing off all the people

15:21

that that that. was at maximum

15:23

PC that work here now that

15:25

you know a lot of people

15:27

don't even realize like yeah you

15:29

John Catherine Mike Brown even you

15:31

know Alena was you know involved

15:33

in there as well so it's

15:35

just like like really a lot

15:37

of the spirit of maximum PC

15:39

moved over here as well so

15:41

yeah it's fun times for sure

15:43

but the family appreciates it I

15:45

mean the poring of the outpouring

15:48

of support has been awesome which

15:50

is awesome and they definitely do

15:52

feel it. And I actually want

15:54

to take this time to thank

15:56

them for definitely being awesome. for

15:58

sure and so sorry for what

16:00

the they're dealing with but but

16:02

I did ask if they had

16:04

had a special message to share

16:06

they were involved in the initial

16:08

news stuff for sure you know

16:10

we worked with the family to

16:12

be able to get the news

16:14

out but you know I was

16:16

like hey do you want me

16:18

to have something for the actual

16:20

podcast to to read or play

16:22

and and actually they Together the

16:24

family wrote something and we have

16:26

a little video that we can

16:28

play now that is actually narrated

16:30

by his son Glenn And then

16:32

they they edit it and premiere

16:34

So yeah, we we're gonna go

16:36

in and play it now. So

16:38

yeah and you all have made

16:40

abundantly clear that he was loved

16:42

by everyone through thick and thin.

16:45

He always had time to talk

16:47

to everyone that he met about

16:49

PC Anything, friends, family strangers, and

16:51

a famous story within the family

16:53

that I think illustrates this is

16:55

while my mom was in labor

16:57

at the hospital with me, a

16:59

nurse recognized my dad and they

17:01

started chatting about hardware. My mom

17:03

was dumbfounded at the time, but

17:05

we always joked about it as

17:07

a family about he was so

17:09

famous and he always played it

17:11

off as him just being a

17:13

nerd about tech. To him, it

17:15

has never been about the fame

17:17

or the money. Always about the

17:19

facts and the people that wanted

17:21

to know the latest. Whenever I

17:23

asked him how famous he was,

17:25

he always said, you know who's

17:27

famous? Steve from Gameers-Nexis, the people

17:29

love him. I once asked dad

17:31

why he didn't go work for

17:33

a larger tech company since he

17:35

knew so many people, and he

17:37

told me it was so he

17:39

could be near his family. I

17:42

believe he meant that, but I

17:44

also believed it was because he

17:46

loved his work. and reporting to

17:48

the world the latest in PC

17:50

hardware was a dream job to

17:52

him. Dad was the rare person

17:54

who loved his job so much,

17:56

no monetary gain could compromise his

17:58

unyielding dedication to tech journalism. As

18:01

Adam has said, he was very reluctant

18:03

to take the position as editor-in-chief at

18:05

Maxim PC because he would rather be

18:07

on the front, writing stories and recording

18:09

videos. Something I remember him telling me

18:11

was that his greatest story he never

18:13

wrote was about the Rodney King riots.

18:15

He was in college at Estate at

18:17

the time, and he was sad he

18:19

wasn't able to be there in LA

18:21

where the action was happening. Lastly, there's

18:24

a picture of him I took in

18:26

high school for a class that I

18:28

would like to share. of him in

18:30

our garage testing hardware. The title is

18:32

Mad Scientists. I think it captures the

18:34

personality very well as he's a lot

18:36

more stoic at home, always in a

18:38

room testing the latest hardware. I remember

18:40

watching an episode of hardcore hardware and

18:42

thinking, that's dad? He was swearing and

18:44

yelling so much. I don't think he

18:47

liked the picture very much because to

18:49

him he looked angry, but in my

18:51

opinion it shows who dad was to

18:53

me. My sister Marianne, our

18:55

mom, and I would like to thank

18:57

everyone who is from their support. It

19:00

really makes us happy to know that

19:02

dad had so many supports around the

19:04

world and we are certain he loved

19:07

you all just as much as you

19:09

loved him. Yeah, well made, well made,

19:11

thank you. Excellent. Very touching. Putting together

19:14

and yeah, that photo actually Glenn in

19:16

his own right is amazing photographer. That's

19:18

something Gordon and... Glenn were able to

19:21

share together and it was a I'd

19:23

actually never seen that photo so yeah

19:25

that definitely definitely encapsulates Gordon. That's a

19:28

touching tribute like every bit of that

19:30

is excellent so if the family is

19:32

watching this that's like I wish I

19:35

had put some together like that for

19:37

my dad when he passed like that's

19:39

well done. You tell him in a

19:42

lot to you. It's funny to me

19:44

that the two the two photos that

19:46

jumped out at me from that video

19:49

was there's two photos where he's holding

19:51

swaddled babies fresh in the hospital and

19:53

in one he's wearing a maximum PC

19:56

shirt and then the other one he's

19:58

wearing a radar shirt. How bad sit

20:00

there on this baby representing that Gordon

20:03

man. Yeah and actually yeah Derek did

20:05

tell me that story when the other

20:07

day yeah she was like no I

20:10

was literally right there on you know

20:12

on the the in the delivery room

20:14

and somebody looked up and was like

20:17

oh hey Gordon for maximum PC and

20:19

they just started talking you know and

20:21

she was just like hey can we

20:24

wait? for you know a couple of

20:26

minutes to do. Yeah, because he was

20:28

wearing his maximum PC shirt and yeah,

20:31

no, I mean, yeah. Yeah, and it's

20:33

true what Glenn in there had said

20:35

that, I mean, he would literally talk

20:38

to anybody, you know, if people wanted

20:40

to talk to him, you know, gave

20:42

people the time of day, respected everybody

20:45

and and I mean, that's one of

20:47

my favorite memories, earliest and favorite memories

20:49

of working with Gordon is that like...

20:52

like carrying around a camera just following

20:54

Gordon to meeting after meeting at CES,

20:56

Computex, whatever, and like going into the

20:59

room and just seeing people's eyes light

21:01

up when they would see him because

21:03

it's just like, hey Gordon's here, like,

21:06

oh wow, I can't wait, you know,

21:08

to talk with Gordon about what we

21:10

have going on, or just talk to

21:13

him in general, and like he always

21:15

gave people the time of day and

21:17

just really cared, you know, and that

21:20

was... Obviously a big part of what

21:22

he cared about was was the people

21:24

were all in this industry together doing

21:27

Doing amazing stuff and you know It's

21:29

definitely something that mattered a lot to

21:31

him Yeah, yep, yep. I I remember

21:33

the first time I think I met

21:36

you the first CEDS I met you

21:38

Adam that was the one where we

21:40

interviewed Rajakadori right after they go I

21:43

believe was announced And I like that

21:45

video a lot. I mean, it's to

21:47

accidentally get Roger to spill something I

21:50

don't think he was supposed to. But

21:52

the thing that stood out to me

21:54

after that, a lesson I really learned

21:57

from working alongside Gordon on the floor,

21:59

was after. Afterwards, like, that video, I

22:01

forget what it took, 20, 30 minutes,

22:04

afterwards, the three of us went over

22:06

to a corner, they picked up a

22:08

conversation to start, you know, just shooting

22:11

a shit about the old days, which

22:13

eventually leans into, hey, what do you

22:15

think about this trend going on, this

22:18

trend going on? And he really cared

22:20

about the people. There's a reason he

22:22

always says never attacked people, never even

22:25

attacked companies, just say, hey, don't buy

22:27

it. I think the fact that he

22:29

did care about people so much and

22:32

wanted to talk to people so much

22:34

as part as what made him such

22:36

a great reporter. And I wonder a

22:39

lot that day. Yeah, I mean, the

22:41

technical side of being a reporter obviously

22:43

is having connections, but it wasn't just

22:46

that he wasn't just trying to do

22:48

that. So, yeah, so many good memories.

22:50

You know, I think, you know, you

22:53

know, you know, you know, you know,

22:55

you know, you know, you know, you

22:57

know, wrap this up pretty soon, but

23:00

like I know there's been a lot

23:02

of questions about memorial services. That's something

23:04

that I've been chatting with with the

23:07

family as well. So we don't have

23:09

anything to talk about here today. We

23:11

are going to do something here on

23:14

the podcast, gather a bunch of people

23:16

from the industry and coworkers and things

23:18

like that. So, you know, I have

23:21

nothing. right now. No news and there

23:23

will be memorial services, you know, for

23:25

close friends and family and stuff like

23:28

that. So, yeah, and once again, in

23:30

the meantime, you know, share kind thoughts,

23:32

contribute to the go fund me if

23:35

you can. You know, they definitely are

23:37

seeing all the awesome messages and all

23:39

that stuff. So, yeah, who we, it's...

23:42

It's developing. You know, we're all working

23:44

this through in real time, so thank

23:46

you so much for for being here

23:49

with us and working through it with

23:51

us. Yeah, and definitely all the love

23:53

and support from the community everywhere. Yeah.

23:56

Yeah, the man, the myth, the legend

23:58

for sure. And yes, I saw somebody

24:00

in the chat talk about, you know,

24:03

how we can memorialize him with awards,

24:05

like the bigger bar better award. There's

24:07

definitely some fun thoughts for sure. You

24:10

know, like I want to get a

24:12

bigger bar better, you know, merch made,

24:14

things like that. I mean, one of

24:17

the things I'm also tossing around is

24:19

like a big charity live stream that

24:21

maybe we can do, that, you know,

24:24

we can build PCs, give them away.

24:26

you know, contribute to a charity that's

24:28

something I talked with, with, with there

24:31

as well about doing, because, you know,

24:33

like, he loved giving back, he loved

24:35

helping people out. So, you know, the

24:38

ways that I want to help honors

24:40

legacy is continuing to, to take those

24:42

journalistic practices that he had taught me,

24:45

but also just help people and continue

24:47

to build the relationships with the community.

24:49

you know, and memorialize him. He's obviously

24:52

a huge part of all of us.

24:54

And I mean, the full nerd, like,

24:56

I mean, to be honest, it doesn't,

24:59

it's hard to feel like it's called

25:01

the full nerd without him around, because

25:03

he was the fullest of nerds for

25:06

sure. He gave up with the name.

25:08

Yeah, yeah. But yeah, like, well, I

25:10

mean, but he wanted to continue. He

25:13

really cared obviously about the work we

25:15

do here. PC world and on the

25:17

full nerd, so. we will continue that

25:20

you know yeah and figure it out

25:22

so something I was kind of we

25:24

this is just kind of on the

25:26

fly talking about this week we just

25:29

got back to work yesterday and we're

25:31

preparing most many of us to fly

25:33

out to CES so we haven't had

25:36

a lot of time to discuss this

25:38

kind of stuff yet but I like

25:40

the idea of a bigger bar a

25:43

better word if I can convince People

25:46

above me to introduce something like that.

25:48

Another idea I had in my head

25:50

was making a permanent landing page for

25:52

the PC World Hall of Fame, hardware

25:55

Hall of Fame. Yes. Honor, like Gordon

25:57

Mong's PC World Hall of Fame or

25:59

something. Yeah, I like that. Other people

26:01

about that. I think that. I like

26:04

that. Somebody was also saying like next

26:06

time we do a Hall of Fame

26:08

inductee episode that we intentionally need to

26:10

get the RTX 2080 in there before

26:13

the teeny TI. I was like, is

26:15

that I will have a heart attack

26:17

and you will have no full nerd

26:19

goal. Oh, that's hilarious. Yeah. Anyway, we're

26:22

still talking about a lot of the

26:24

stuff. We will, you know, keep people

26:26

informed in what we figure out. There's

26:28

still a lot of good discussions going

26:31

over on Discord. I actually started a

26:33

forum post on Discord that you can

26:35

put your favorite Gordon memories. So we've

26:37

shared a lot of fun stuff in

26:39

there. You know, I don't know if

26:42

we'll do some sort of super cut

26:44

of old memories or something. I don't

26:46

know. There's still so much to think

26:48

about, you think about, you know, you

26:51

know. and plenty of time to continue

26:53

to think about Gordon. But I mean

26:55

if there's one thing that Gordon wanted

26:57

to make sure that we do is

27:00

continue to cover the news and we

27:02

are just about to ship off to

27:04

CES. to cover that. A lot of

27:06

news is going to be happening there.

27:09

It's always like, at least for the

27:11

PC space, it's like the second biggest

27:13

trade show. I feel like Computex is

27:15

like the first one. Oh, definitely. Yeah,

27:18

and then CS is huge and that's

27:20

obviously like a big deal. I mean,

27:22

just Gordon absolutely loved being in the

27:24

trenches. I mean, like, like, week-long CES,

27:27

like, you know, we'd get up. towards

27:29

the end of the week and I'd

27:31

be like, hey, how many hours of

27:33

sleep you got? And he's like, yeah,

27:36

like three, I'm fine. You know, I'll

27:38

just drink some more coffee. And like

27:40

he just, he just, he just. He

27:42

used those as a great event, as

27:45

a great situation, not just together news

27:47

and insights about all the trends and

27:49

all the stuff that's going on. But

27:51

he genuinely liked people. So he would

27:54

go to like every party and make

27:56

sure he lined up with like everyone

27:58

who he was hoping to see. yes

28:00

so he worked long days but it

28:03

was not just to cover the news

28:05

it was also to see the people

28:07

and he loved every second of it

28:09

yeah and like you know I've been

28:11

putting together our schedule for for video

28:14

stuff you know and Mark's gonna be

28:16

there for writing John's gonna be there

28:18

as well doing some stuff unfortunately you're

28:20

not gonna be able to go this

28:23

this year I was supposed to go

28:25

people know I was supposed to go

28:27

but I just got diagnosed with COVID

28:29

yesterday so I'm not gonna go get

28:32

you got sick yeah yeah so feel

28:34

better but you know obviously you will

28:36

be busy at home there's there's lots

28:38

going on but yeah going over the

28:41

schedule I was just like oh man

28:43

I wish I could sometimes like it

28:45

really is hard to schedule everything even

28:47

though we're there for a whole week

28:50

to try to see everybody and it's

28:52

just like you know like so like

28:54

and he always made it a point

28:56

so Yeah, I try to try to

28:59

see people as much, but yeah, so

29:01

I'll be on the ground shooting video.

29:03

I think we talked about this earlier.

29:05

So Willis is actually helping man, or

29:08

our sister channel. Yeah, a sister channel.

29:10

Yeah, so Tech Hive, if you want

29:12

to go subscribe over there, T-E-C-H-H-I-E, Tech

29:14

Hive. And that's the logo is like

29:17

yellow, like a. beehive kind of thing.

29:19

It's our smart, smart home, smart tech

29:21

brand channel specifically for that. And yeah,

29:23

I'll be... doing that as CS and

29:26

it'll be the first time that I

29:28

won't be on the ground with Adam

29:30

and just making sure he doesn't eat

29:32

guns off the floor or pick up

29:34

USBs on the show floor. Yeah, somebody

29:37

earlier, I'm sorry I can't remember who

29:39

said it, but yeah, somebody was like,

29:41

oh, you know, be sure to tell

29:43

Adam that if he sees gum on

29:46

the floor that it's not free candy.

29:48

And I was like, well, what about

29:50

yellow snow, but no, I, we'll still

29:52

be there. making videos, you know, continuing

29:55

what Gordon loved to do as well.

29:57

Amazing articles, I'm sure, on PC World,

29:59

you know. I mean, we know rumors,

30:01

there's definitely been some 50-80 boxes that

30:04

appeared on some news feeds, so I

30:06

guess we'll see what comes to that.

30:08

Yeah. Looking like it's gonna be a

30:10

big CES for the piece. Yeah, yeah.

30:13

And then every year on the website,

30:15

there's always a best of show for

30:17

PC World where all the staff members

30:19

will include like their picks and awards.

30:22

So that's always a big highlight for

30:24

me. Yeah, we run a couple of

30:26

them. Like, we'll do one. Someone worse

30:28

with us, Matt Smith, who is awesome.

30:31

He has a retro gaming channel. Go

30:33

check it out. He's doing roundups of

30:35

the best laptops and monitors. So if

30:37

you're specifically interested in that, go look

30:40

for those towards the end of the

30:42

week. But towards the end of the

30:44

week, we run every year, just everyone

30:46

on staff. What's the coolest stuff that

30:49

you saw? Like, there are no. People

30:51

are like, can I write about this

30:53

even though it's not a PC? Can

30:55

I write about this? It's like, yeah,

30:58

I just want to see the cool

31:00

stuff, man. Let's get the cool stuff

31:02

out there. And that's what that's going

31:04

to be at the end of the

31:06

week. Yeah. Yeah. So once again, subscribe

31:09

over on Tech Hive if you want

31:11

to see home products that enrich your

31:13

home life. Yes. The pitch that I.

31:15

that I say. John's actually going to

31:18

contribute some videos over there as well,

31:20

so you know, if you're curious. Question

31:22

is Will Smith going to see us?

31:24

He's not, but he is actually going

31:27

to help do the the watch parties

31:29

for the major keynotes. So for Intel,

31:31

AMD, and Envideo, please join Will Smith

31:33

for doing a watch party over on

31:36

the PC World channel. So yeah, I

31:38

should say that. that goes subscribe around

31:40

Peace Air World if you haven't. That's

31:42

where all the the video stuff is

31:45

going to be and and yeah so

31:47

that we will be a watch party.

31:49

Will has reached reached reached out to

31:51

some some people to join them as

31:54

well so I'm excited there's there's a

31:56

couple guests that will join them for

31:58

some of those keynotes that is exciting.

32:00

I may or may not join them

32:03

depending how I'm feeling so there might

32:05

be a random Brad up here. Yeah,

32:07

yeah, and we will have, we will

32:09

have an episode of the podcast from

32:12

the show floor like usual, kind of

32:14

covering the news and then also our

32:16

best of stuff. Usually we kind of

32:18

aim for Thursday, so I would say

32:21

if you want to pencil something in,

32:23

it's going to be like Thursday afternoon-ish.

32:25

So, doesn't... Afternoon, West Coast time. Yes,

32:27

thank you. Yeah, so, there's that and,

32:30

yeah, seeing people and connecting with people,

32:32

I mean... Like Gordon, I'm excited to

32:34

connect with people. I know there's going

32:36

to be a lot of good Gordon

32:38

memories shared and all that stuff. So

32:41

looking forward to that. Yeah, anything else

32:43

you want to cover before we get

32:45

out of here, Brad? I don't think

32:47

so. Gordon Robsman. I'm very touched by

32:50

the support that the community has shown

32:52

him. And again, like, that takes such

32:54

a huge burden off of his family.

32:56

So thank you to everybody. Definitely. And

32:59

I feel like he would have been...

33:01

He would have been... Yeah, he would

33:03

have been embarrassed. He's like, no, no,

33:05

no, no, no, it's not a big

33:08

deal. Why is everybody, you know? Don't

33:10

worry about it. I'm just, I'm just

33:12

here. He's a very humble man. So,

33:14

yeah. Yeah, we'll continue on. And, um...

33:17

And cover the news like the way

33:19

Gordon likes. So thank you. Thank you

33:21

again for the support. Thank you again

33:23

for for being with us here during

33:26

this time and figuring this out and

33:28

upholding Gordon's legacy. I will say I

33:30

have heard a couple people in comments

33:32

being like, hey, is this something that

33:35

you or that Gordon has inspired some

33:37

people to start? their own YouTube channel,

33:39

their own writing, things like that. Yes,

33:41

please, you know, if there's any way

33:44

we can help, you know, let us

33:46

know. Like I love that, you know,

33:48

being able to share that knowledge and

33:50

stuff like that. So. I, uh, for

33:53

Gordon's Obituary, we ran a lot of

33:55

quotes from a bunch of different people.

33:57

John handled that initial getting it up,

33:59

but I handled most of the updates.

34:02

And we put my email address in

34:04

there and said, hey, if you have

34:06

any good memories to share, we can't

34:08

run them all, but we'll read them

34:10

all and we'll get a bunch in

34:13

there. And it was absolutely mind boggling

34:15

and eye opening between the emails I

34:17

got and seeing the comments on the

34:19

go fund me, just how many people

34:22

who said like. You know, I'm not

34:24

a tech-tuber, I'm not a PC journalist,

34:26

but I work in tech because of

34:28

the rigorous analysis and no BS that

34:31

I grew up, Gordon instilled that in

34:33

me, and I have my career in

34:35

tech to thank him for that. So

34:37

it's just a really awesome thing to

34:40

see. Yeah, no, and I'm not much

34:42

of a read-up person, but I even

34:44

got on like, read it and saw

34:46

the amazing posts that people put up

34:49

and I actually... came across somebody who

34:51

was in the computer lab in high

34:53

school with Gordon. Oh. So I started

34:55

DMing and personally and getting some memories

34:58

and stuff like there for sure. So

35:00

we'll share a lot about this, you

35:02

know, when we get together memorial episodes.

35:04

But yeah, he even shared a photo

35:07

of Gordon in the yearbook and Gordon

35:09

was wearing a bow tie. I was

35:11

like, can you imagine Gordon with longer

35:13

hair at a bow tie? Yeah, I

35:16

gotta show that. And actually, Dara hadn't

35:18

even seen that even seen that photo.

35:20

I was like, have you seen his

35:22

yearbook photo? So I showed that to

35:25

her. A lot of people's lives, so

35:27

yeah. I think it would be good

35:29

to works in space to Memorial episode

35:31

to include some of those reader thoughts

35:33

as well. Oh, 100%. Yeah, yeah, that's

35:36

also why in the Discord like favorite

35:38

memories and things like that. So yeah,

35:40

lots of lots to talk about. I

35:42

think we'll just end it here. Yeah,

35:45

not like I said, not a full

35:47

episode, not going over stuff. Just kind

35:49

of we got to get to packing

35:51

for CES and and covering all the

35:54

new. So, so. Yeah, thanks Brad for

35:56

for joining and working with

35:58

me. Thank you John, all

36:00

all the PC World

36:03

Team, everybody, all the

36:05

Thank you Adam, the people. Adam's done a lot

36:07

done a lot of work

36:09

behind the scenes, the scenes, and I'm so

36:12

short. Yeah. No, it's, and thank you Willis

36:14

for for controlling the verticals

36:16

and always keep that around

36:18

like verticals and horizontals of

36:20

course. was, the loved that. and

36:23

horizontals, of course. thanks everybody. that. So, anyway,

36:25

thanks next week for tune in

36:27

of CES plenty of CES talk. So, everybody.

36:29

see you later. you later.