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I think that most things are actually significantly easier
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than people think they are. They just don't know
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how to try hard because the
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harder that you try, the easier it gets. And
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so it's like, if you can just learn to love
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what trying hard feels like, then all of a sudden
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it becomes unreasonable that you can't win. Welcome
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to the game where we talk about how to get more
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customers, how to make more per customer and how to keep
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them longer and the many failures and lessons we have learned
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along the way. I hope you enjoy and subscribe. Whenever
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I wanted to try and get myself back into the
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present, I used to have brain fog a lot in
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my twenties. Oh really? And maybe
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not brain fog, maybe just the clarity of my thoughts now
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is so much better than it used to be. I don't
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fucking know. You're morning for decay. Maybe it was just the
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drugs. I don't know.
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But one of the things I used to have this,
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I still have this BMW sat on my drive with
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a perforated steering wheel. And I remember
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that if I ran my thumbs across the steering
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wheel and I really felt the perforation, really
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felt it, or I'd do it with a leaf.
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I'd pick a leaf up. And I'd really feel
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the sensation of the leaf. I
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couldn't think about anything else. You can only have
1:06
one thought at one time. You cannot think two
1:08
things, right? You have a supercomputer inside of your
1:10
head and it's got one megabyte of RAM. Yeah.
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So just think the one thought, okay, so
1:15
this next one, me and you
1:18
text each other pretty frequently about we've seen
1:20
this cool thing and someone's repurposed like one of the things
1:22
that we've done, which is cool. And it makes me feel
1:24
good that things that we've said or that you've said largely,
1:27
get repurposed. This
1:29
is something that hadn't happened before, which is you misquoted
1:31
me, but
1:34
improved the quote. So
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this was like the human centipede
1:38
of content creation. And then I
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named it. So this is
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Fame's seesaw. When you're on
1:44
your way up, everyone roots for you because you remind them
1:46
of their dreams. When you're at the top, everyone
1:49
tears you down because you remind them that they gave
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up on them. And you have
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one, which is for anyone who needs
1:55
a reminder, no one is going
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to hate on you for doing worse than that. them.
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And this is interesting because kind
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of like the challenges you face in
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the beginning, you don't have anything to
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say no to, therefore the woman in the red dress is easy to
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say no to or there are fewer women. This
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is a challenge that nobody is going to give
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you any sympathy for.
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It's a very unique category of challenge because
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the total addressable market for sympathy is basically
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zero because almost
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everybody is on their way up and
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very few people are at the top and the people
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that are at the top are seen as having a
2:34
degree of privilege that almost legitimates you twisting the knife
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or you poking the finger. This is how public
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figures can have normal
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everyday people on Twitter say unspeakable,
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heinous things to them, dehumanizing
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things because they do not
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see them as human. They don't see
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them as a person. There is no
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person on the other side of this.
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They're a representation, they're a menagerie of
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ideas. Therefore I can say
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whatever I want to them because they're not really a person, but
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they are. And the
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fact that before
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there is any status associated with
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tearing you down, no
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one is incentivized to tear you down and
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you haven't changed, fuck dude. The Louis
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Capaldi documentary, I've watched this twice now.
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No Louis Capaldi is the singer, Scottish
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singer, amazing dude, really
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fascinating story, suffering a lot with
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mental health. Makes this first
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album and billions of streams, world
3:31
tour, phenomenal. And he's playing songs
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that he wrote in 2017 and
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played in working men's pubs around Scotland.
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The same songs go to number one.
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So not just that he's become better,
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he's the same guy. The
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same guy. Maybe his production's improved, maybe
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his recording quality's improved, he's got better mastering and
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his voice coaching's gone a bit better. But he's
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largely the same person. He
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hasn't changed. And he has
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this quote halfway through and it really spoke to
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me and he said, same doesn't change. It
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just changes everybody around you. And
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that's when
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you're on your way up, everyone roots for you because you
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remind them of their dreams. When you're at
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the top, everyone tears you down because you remind them that they gave up on
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them. That really, yeah, that
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spoke to me. I wrote an essay on
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this because I'm a... Psychopath?
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Yeah. Yup. When
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I was a gym owner. So a lot of people
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don't know this, but I got a writing scholarship
4:26
in college. Like I was a vice president of
4:28
the newspaper, I was editor of
4:30
the Creative Writing Magazine. So I've been writing for
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a long time, I enjoy writing. And
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I wrote this essay, I said, I think the
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title of it was, Everyone
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Believes in the American Dream Until Comes True. And
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I remember because what had happened was, everybody when
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I was sleeping on the gym floor, right? Like
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I was the underdog and everyone, my clients were
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all like, oh, good for you, you're going after
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your dream. And I had my blanket and my
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pillow in the corner of the gym and they
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knew I was sleeping there and it was evident.
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I lived there. I didn't have a shower. I
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didn't have a shower. I didn't have a shower. I had to go to
5:05
the YMCA to get a shower. And
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everybody was like pro me and then people would come
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in, they sign up like, I'm going to support you,
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right? And then within nine
5:13
months, I had hired people and I had a
5:15
manager and I pulled up and I
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remember I walked in the lobby and
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all the same people were
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like, ah, boss man's here. Well, you're not
5:24
too good for us now, right? And
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I remember being so jarred by the experience
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and I was like, you
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guys rooted for me. And
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I was like, and now I did what
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you said you were rooting for me to do. And
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that was when I realized that people want you to do well,
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but not better than them. And
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I was like,
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I had gone from underdog to the man. And
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I was like, when does that happen? And
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the litmus test of when it happens is it depends on who the
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person is. Because for the person who
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was working at my gym, who was a janitor
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or a cleaner, it really quick.
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For the people who were more
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successful, it took longer. And
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then the only people at the end who would
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still refer me were the business owners who were doing way better
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than me, who were still members of my gym. And
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so that was a really interesting experience that
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happened when I was 23. And that was
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the first time I went from underdog to the
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person that someone would want to attack. But
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I had a performance coach
6:24
tell me this. He said,
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hatred isn't something
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you avoid. He said, it is
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a requisite for success. He
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said, if you get no hate, you are not
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successful. And for
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some reason, that just really stuck with me. Because then
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it just, rather than it being this thing that I
6:42
was trying to avoid, it actually became a leading indicator
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or an indicator that I was on the right path
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in achieving things. And so I
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think that's why, I mean, I don't
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want to toot horns or anything. But
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in terms of like, my ability
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to deal with the naysayers and things like that,
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I feel like I'm pretty good at it. Like,
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it doesn't really bug me very much. And
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I think in large part, it was because of
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how it's framed, at least how, you know, in
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this discussion, how it was framed from your early
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on, which is that no one hates
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you from above. And
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even, you know, even when I think back about like the
7:16
bullies and whatnot that you had earlier, like,
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even in middle school, like, there
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were things that I had
7:23
that were going for me that I couldn't recognize, because
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of course, everything that comes easy to you are
7:28
things that they're easy to use. So
7:30
you don't think that they're, you know, new or interesting
7:32
or cool. And but
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like, at the same time, I was like, I'd
7:37
advanced a grade in multiple in multiple subjects,
7:39
I had, you know, straight A's, I worked
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really hard, I was in shape, right? And
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I but I had these people who would
7:45
hate, but I, you know, you
7:47
internalize it. But like, now I can look back
7:49
and be like, it's kind of like the parents
7:52
were like, it's because she's into you, right? No,
7:55
might not be the same that way. But, but
7:57
just thinking about it as an indicator that
8:00
The heat is actually
8:02
the light that you're on the right
8:05
path. We spoke about this
8:07
last time that nothing
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is going to be worthwhile that
8:14
doesn't come with an associated amount
8:16
of discomfort. Therefore,
8:18
when you start
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to feel friends around
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you and the people that you used to be able
8:25
to speak a common language with, start
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to push back and start to
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make the quips of, oh,
8:32
not drinking tonight. Yeah. Oh, you must be too cool
8:34
for us now. I
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know it hurts. I know it hurts. That
8:40
is the lead indicator, not even the lagging indicator.
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That is the lead indicator that you are doing
8:44
the right thing. And
8:46
lots of people listen to this podcast. I get
8:48
messages from people like, hey, man, I'm a 22-year-old
8:50
rugby player from the northwest of the UK. I
8:52
live in Cumbria. None of my
8:55
friends understand me. I want to do personal
8:57
growth. I don't want to live in the UK. And
8:59
when I listen to Modern Wisdom, I feel less alone.
9:01
And it makes me tear up because I'm like, fuck,
9:04
I see me in that person.
9:06
I see me in that. And
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it's so hard to reframe it. The
9:14
pushback you are getting is the
9:16
indicator that you are doing the right thing. It
9:20
is. And if
9:23
you can reframe the
9:25
distaste that you get from other people as
9:28
the same as that. Because
9:31
they're projecting the things that they know they
9:33
should be doing, that you are doing, that
9:35
they're not doing, and you remind them of that.
9:38
And so it's that it's even so even though
9:40
the mountain that you're climbing is actually a smaller
9:42
one than the one that you ultimately want to
9:44
climb, you're actually at the top of their mountain.
9:47
And so they start tearing you down. And so that's where the underdog
9:49
story that we said at the very beginning of this was the quote,
9:51
which is like, on the way up, they root for you. And then
9:53
when you're at the top, they try and tear you down because you
9:56
remind them of the dreams that they couldn't accomplish. And
9:58
so you quitting. drinking or you staying
10:00
in to work on your side hustle or your project or
10:03
the business that you want to launch the podcast, that
10:06
might be, you might be at the top
10:08
of their mountain. And so they are tearing
10:10
you down because now you remind them that
10:12
they haven't done it. And it's purely a
10:14
projection of them onto you and has nothing
10:16
to do with you. And that, I
10:20
hope that that comforts someone because
10:22
what you said, I think is like, if you're
10:24
going through that right now, like, and I promise
10:26
you, every single person who wants to do something
10:29
with their life and has done something with their
10:31
life has gone through the exact chapter that you're
10:33
going through. And it's the lonely chapter. It's the
10:35
chapter where you, you're you don't fit
10:37
in with your own friends, but you don't have the
10:39
outcomes yet to fit into a new group of friends.
10:41
And you're doing this thing, you're consuming content on the
10:43
internet. You're, you're doing these free tutorials online to try
10:45
and figure out how to set up a podcast. And
10:47
what do I host this thing? And then there, and,
10:49
and, and you're going through this and you're like, am
10:51
I, is this even worth it because you have no
10:53
signs of success, right? But if there's anything that you
10:55
can take away from what we're saying right now is
10:58
that the sign of success
11:00
is the hate that you get along the
11:02
way. And what you can't do is bend
11:04
the knee to their hate and fit back
11:06
into the conformity because it's comfortable and it's
11:08
warm because like in the
11:10
matrix, when Trinity opens the door, when, when Nia
11:12
is about to go take the red pill and
11:15
he wants to get out of the car, she
11:17
says, Nia, you've been down that road and you know
11:19
exactly where it leads. And I know that's not where you
11:21
want to be. And
11:23
then he closes the door. Like right now, this
11:26
moment that you're going through is Trinity opening the
11:28
door and being like, you could go back, but
11:31
then you'd have to remember exactly what the reason was that
11:33
you decided not to go out to begin with, just because
11:35
you listen to this podcast and you consume this constantly. Like
11:37
I can fucking do more than this. Like
11:39
because you are starting to live in some of that, how are
11:41
you looking in the mirror and you're like, I can do more.
11:43
And you start to see the person that you could be. And
11:45
you're like, this does start to feel like hell. The
11:48
reason that it's uncomfortable and the
11:51
reason that I do have sympathy
11:53
for the people that see this is
11:56
ignorance in some regards is bliss. As
11:58
soon as you begin to posit an ideal, you
12:01
then begin to compare yourself to that ideal and
12:04
the gap in potential between you and the
12:06
person that you could have been begins
12:08
to get more stuck. And even
12:11
the slightest glimmer of, wow,
12:14
I can read a book
12:16
or follow a course or listen to a
12:18
podcast and then work really, really
12:21
hard on one thing and change
12:23
the thermodynamics of my mind, change the
12:25
texture of my own existence day to
12:27
day because I worked at a thing.
12:30
And now I understand nutrition. I know
12:32
Kung Fu. I
12:34
understand nutrition or I
12:36
understand how to sleep well. Okay,
12:38
as soon as you know that sleep is important and what you
12:40
need to do to do it, every
12:43
single night of bad sleep that you have is on you. Because
12:46
before you had the excuse that you're ignorant and
12:48
guess what? Now you don't. Every
12:52
worthwhile goal is
12:54
worthwhile because it has a cost associated
12:56
with it. And so the
12:59
cost that you're going through is what makes the
13:01
goal worthwhile to begin with. Because if what you
13:04
were setting out to do were
13:06
immediately available to you, then it would mean it
13:08
would be immediately available to everyone, which means it
13:10
wouldn't be worthwhile. So the very fact that it's
13:12
difficult is why it is worth doing. And so
13:14
we can't resent the price tag
13:16
of the shoes that we want to buy.
13:19
We just have to make the decision whether or not we want to pay it.
13:23
There's another real hammer blow. You
13:25
don't get very touchy-feely with
13:28
like, you know, I live in Austin now, so I'm
13:30
like in the psychedelic mecca of the United States. And
13:32
people talk a lot about like trauma
13:36
and improvement and stuff like
13:38
that. Self-love is
13:40
holding yourself to a higher standard than
13:42
anyone else does. That's
13:45
really interesting to me. I
13:50
think it's believing in the 85 year
13:52
old version of you who's exactly who you
13:54
want to be. And then ruthlessly
13:58
looking for the right person to be. looking at
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the discrepancy between the pittance
14:02
of a human that you are now compared to that
14:05
man or that woman, and then
14:07
step by step breaking down the many
14:09
differences and starting on the first one and pulling the
14:11
thread. I
14:13
love the idea that, you
14:16
know, true self-love a lot of the time is
14:19
wrapped in acceptance and
14:22
a degree of belonging. I reject this entirely.
14:24
I just want to throw it out there.
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That doesn't surprise me. The
14:29
idea that self-love is holding
14:31
yourself to a higher standard than anyone else
14:34
does, you
14:36
believing in you more
14:40
than anybody else does, is
14:43
such a first principle's way of looking at
14:45
self-love. Okay, so I'm
14:49
supposed to love myself. I'm
14:52
supposed to support myself and be my biggest
14:54
fan, but
14:56
I don't have the most belief in me
14:58
so I'm
15:01
supposed to have self-love, but I cap my
15:03
own potential. I
15:06
have so many thoughts. So
15:10
right off the bat, even the
15:12
concept of fan was something that if
15:14
I was talking to 2013,
15:17
2012 Alex, I would have rejected that notion. The
15:20
concept of even being a fan of myself was so foreign to me, it
15:22
wouldn't have been real to me. I'll tell you
15:24
what that Alex internalized, which
15:26
was that I didn't
15:28
need to deserve success, but I could still have it
15:31
if I did the things that created success. So it
15:33
felt like a cheat code where I was like, I
15:35
can actually be a shitty person and horrible and suck
15:37
at everything, but if I still work out and I
15:39
still eat this way, I can still look this way
15:41
even though I don't deserve it. It
15:45
actually felt like, for anybody who
15:47
hates themselves, you can hear me, that
15:50
was my first big shade, my first solace, my
15:52
first foothold that I started getting on success was
15:54
that I didn't need to deserve it. I
15:56
could still have it anyways. That was
15:58
very empowering for me. me. The
16:02
other thing that you said about acceptance. So
16:05
there's this big movement around self acceptance
16:08
and I want to say that I
16:10
wholeheartedly reject it. I you
16:14
accept outcomes and you accept circumstances. You accept the
16:16
fact that you were dealt whatever hand you were
16:18
dealt. You accept that you're 5'8". You accept that
16:20
you're black. You accept that you're a woman. That's
16:22
accepting. You trying to rebel against that is you
16:24
trying to fight the universe and the universe is
16:26
going to win every time. But
16:29
in terms of you framing acceptance as
16:31
saying that I
16:33
am comfortable with who I am and I cannot be better
16:36
and I must be satisfied with that is
16:39
the biggest embodiment of
16:41
failure that I can imagine. It's
16:45
almost egotistical to
16:48
say that there's a difference between
16:50
saying I am good enough and I am good.
16:54
So you could say I am good enough for my current state based
16:56
on the work that I've put into it but I
16:58
could be better. You
17:02
can accept that the work that you have done has created
17:04
the outcome that you've created but you
17:07
do not need to accept that the outcome that you've created
17:09
is the end all be all and the last outcome that
17:11
you need to have. For me
17:14
the only version of acceptance that I have is that
17:16
I accept that the version of
17:19
myself that I want to be is so far
17:21
from who I am that I
17:23
have this massive discrepancy that I have to
17:25
overcome and then just breaking
17:27
that down one step at a time and
17:29
thinking I don't deserve to
17:31
be that man but I can
17:33
still do the things that can
17:36
create it and it also means that I have
17:38
to go through the circumstances that would create that
17:40
man which means that if I have unbelievable big
17:42
dreams and big goals then I have to go
17:44
through hard times. It's like
17:47
hate. The hard times are a requisite for success
17:49
and so if you're going through hard times right
17:51
now it means that you're on the path to
17:53
success and it's not that you're on the wrong
17:55
path it's the feeling of being on the right
17:57
path and one of the things that I talk
17:59
with with the CEOs in our portfolio
18:01
company, and I'm going to bring it back. One
18:05
of our companies, they were struggling
18:07
with growth, big company. And he was
18:10
like, I honestly, the issue that I have right now, he's
18:12
like, I don't know how many locations I can open every
18:14
month. He's like, based on the cash flow that's coming in
18:16
and out. And I was like, this is kind of like
18:18
the Morpheus free frame. And I was like, I need you
18:20
to freeze this moment. I was like, the feeling that you
18:22
have right now is that you are missing a finance function,
18:24
is that they didn't have a good finance leader. And you're
18:26
like, why is this relative to what we're talking about? I'll
18:28
bring it back. Which is that if
18:31
it's the first time you're going through it, you can't
18:33
recognize the science because you don't have anything to compare
18:35
it to. And so hopefully listening to this podcast and
18:37
listening to other people, not just, you know, not me
18:40
and Chris, but like other people who are even even
18:42
more successful, whatever, they
18:44
can at least tell you what it tastes like, they
18:46
can tell you what the room looks like, they can
18:48
tell you what the temperature feels like, they can tell
18:50
you what it feels like in their body so that
18:52
when you are going through it, you can say, okay,
18:54
I haven't been here before. But this sounds like Albuquerque.
18:56
This sounds like a missing finance. And that's why having
18:58
like, and if you're in early on stages, and you're
19:01
going through the like, you're going, you're consuming the free content, there's
19:03
less stuff, it's like, use this because the
19:05
most valuable thing you can get is the context of
19:07
what the experience feels like when you're going through it.
19:09
So someone can describe to you their experience so that
19:12
you can relate it to your present and be like,
19:14
okay, I'm on the right path. Yeah, it's
19:16
the feeling of loneliness and uncertainty.
19:18
Hang on. What if this,
19:20
what if this is a sign that I'm not
19:22
supposed to be here? What if this is a sign that
19:24
I'm doing it wrong? Right. And relinquishing
19:27
that. If
19:30
there was a big meta indicator that you're doing the
19:32
right thing, doing what everyone isn't doing is already probably
19:34
the big, the single biggest indicator that you're doing the
19:36
right thing. Like it's the if I
19:39
could wish nothing else on my child whenever I
19:41
choose to have them in the future is that
19:43
they have high agency, which is that they are
19:46
they make decisions independent from the opinions of
19:48
other people. And when we hear words like
19:50
authentic and original and things like that, it's
19:52
because the person starts at square one and
19:54
says, well, what do I want? And
19:56
then they start building from there. I had a conversation with one of
19:58
my one of my teammates. who runs
20:01
my LinkedIn. And he said,
20:03
you know, Alex, it's easy for you to- Always,
20:07
always a really great start.
20:09
Great way to trigger on it. Good
20:11
sentence. Really good. Please,
20:15
tell me more. Why do
20:17
you, go on. He said, it's easy for
20:19
you, Alex, to create this personal brand. He's like,
20:21
you have so many interesting things about you. He's
20:23
like, you dress a certain way, you act a
20:25
certain way. And he said, it's different than everyone
20:28
else does, right? And
20:30
I said, I don't
20:33
think that's true. I think that
20:35
everyone has a personal brand that is unique
20:37
and different, but everyone doesn't look
20:39
that way because they conform to what
20:41
they think everyone else wants them to
20:43
look like. And so the fact that
20:46
they are boring, and they resent the
20:48
fact that they're boring, is because they
20:50
are living out reflections of what
20:53
they think everyone else wants them to do. And
20:55
so all you have to do is start at
20:57
square zero and be like, what do I want?
20:59
Because I realized after I got out of gym
21:01
launch, I mean, I dressed a certain way for
21:03
gym launch because I was, they had an
21:05
entire community of gyms and it made sense for me to dress
21:07
that way because I needed
21:09
to look that part, right? But when
21:11
I was at ground zero and I was like, okay, what
21:13
do I want? And I thought about it for a long time. And
21:15
I was like, well, what would 85 year
21:18
old me wear? I was like, 85
21:20
year old me would wear probably the most functional
21:22
thing he could wear because he doesn't care what his
21:24
shoes look like. He doesn't care what his shirt looks
21:26
like. He just wants to be comfortable. And
21:28
so I just started trying all of the things that I could
21:30
possibly imagine for shoes, shorts, hats, whatever, to find the thing that
21:32
I was like, you know what? This
21:34
is the most comfortable. And this allows me to do the most
21:36
things in the most rooms without changing. And
21:39
so people then are like, man, that's so
21:41
unique. But it was actually just saying, if
21:43
I were to, if everyone was gone from
21:45
existence, what would I do? What
21:47
would my work be, right? How would I dress?
21:49
Who would I date? That's a real one. Who
21:52
would I date if no one else told me what they thought about
21:54
it? Maybe someone different than you're dating right
21:56
now. And if the person that you would want to
21:58
date isn't the person you're dating right now, right now and the person that you
22:00
would want to date would never date you, then
22:03
maybe rather than dating these mediocre
22:05
Molly's or mediocre
22:08
Matt's, you
22:10
take the period of time, you go on the untrodden
22:12
path, you have people reject you and say, oh, you're
22:14
not coming out tonight, you're going to the gym again,
22:16
right? Oh, okay, I can't eat with us, right? She's
22:18
on a diet again. How long are you
22:20
going to stick with this one, right? Because the thing is
22:22
is that the stick to it and muscle itself is something
22:24
that you work on because if you start a diet and
22:26
you fail and you start working out and you failed, if
22:29
you just make it longer every time before you
22:31
fail, you're still making progress and you're still doing
22:33
something that everyone else isn't doing. And
22:36
that is the biggest meta indicator that you possibly
22:38
can is it because everyone
22:41
sucks. Like so many people
22:44
are mediocre, like half of the United States is
22:46
in debt, they don't even have a like they,
22:48
they're negative net worth. And
22:50
so like, just saying different than that,
22:53
like the bar isn't high, we talked
22:55
about this dude, go for it. I know,
22:57
I know what you're going to go for.
22:59
The bar has never been set lower to
23:01
separate yourself out from the pack. Never been
23:03
set lower. And this is for, you know,
23:06
the black pill internet with like, by the
23:08
way, it is supposed
23:10
to be one step beyond the red pill
23:12
to see that life and dating largely for
23:14
men is there's an
23:16
uncomfortable reality that if you aren't
23:19
blessed with the right physical attractiveness,
23:21
status or money, SMS,
23:23
looks, LMS, looks, money status, you
23:25
don't have the right prerequisites, you're basically
23:27
doomed, you're a genetic dead end and
23:29
eat shit. Is
23:32
that a bad thing? According to them.
23:35
So, okay, I'm gonna zoom out real quick. And I
23:38
know I know we're gonna go on the so if we're
23:41
looking at a species, right? Let's look
23:43
at deer. A lot of people have deer in their
23:45
backyard, right? Well, what
23:47
is natural is that one
23:50
buck inseminates 50 doe
23:54
and he competes with all the other deer.
23:56
And the reason for that is because then
23:58
it actually allows the quote best genes to
24:00
proliferate. Now, best is determined by what
24:03
actually continues on. I'm perilously
24:05
close to you, Janix here, Alex. Well,
24:08
I'm just talking about deer. I'm just talking
24:10
about deer. If anyone understands, I'm
24:12
just talking about deer. I'm not saying this is what it should be,
24:14
but the point that I wanted to
24:16
make was not, I think, where everyone thinks I'm going with
24:19
this, which is that a
24:21
lot of the black, whatever you just said, right, black pill,
24:24
I would imagine our casting and expectation
24:26
on the universe that it shouldn't be this
24:28
way. Voila.
24:31
And this is exactly like the hater who says, you're
24:33
not going to amount to anything. And the reason it
24:35
hurts is because you're like, what if they're right? And
24:38
then you're staring at the mirror with that question of like, what
24:40
if they're right? What if I am out of shape?
24:42
Because the thing is that in order to be
24:45
the top, quote, 1%, even the top 10%,
24:48
shoot, or even just above average, right, you
24:51
just need to not be overweight. You need to
24:55
be gainfully employed. The
24:58
bar is so low. The bar
25:00
is so unbelievably low. I got this idea
25:03
I got to teach you about. The alpha history
25:05
fantasy. Modern men who are angry at a world
25:08
they feel has rejected them mistakenly believe that they
25:10
would have somehow done better in medieval
25:12
times. They are adamant that the chance of them
25:14
being Genghis Khan is greater than
25:17
the chance of them being cannon fodder peasant number 1,373,000
25:19
whose favela was sacked
25:23
and destroyed. And it's this wistfulness for the
25:25
past. And dude, I get it. Like if
25:27
you feel lost and alone and like nobody
25:29
understands you and like you've been forgotten and
25:31
things shouldn't be this way. Guess what?
25:34
They've always been this way. And right
25:36
now, the bar has never
25:38
been set lower. If you have the opportunity
25:40
to sit down and listen to me and
25:42
Alex waffle on for three and a half
25:44
hours, you have the
25:47
capacity, the conscientiousness, the wherewithal to
25:50
be able to go out tomorrow and take one thing
25:52
that you've hit
25:54
from today. This is something
25:56
that I want you to get on to which I think is important.
26:00
Avoiding the mental masturbation, you know, we can do
26:02
this thing and like,
26:05
speed fuck quotes into
26:08
the ether. And like
26:10
an oozy, right? Just unloading
26:12
all of these different things. And I think that a lot
26:14
of people feel a general
26:16
overwhelm of indexing of information and, oh my God, I'm
26:19
learning all of this stuff and I don't feel like
26:21
I'm making any progress. And I really
26:23
wanted to try and cut through this at some point in the
26:25
conversation today as well, which is Tim
26:28
Ferriss has an idea called the good shit sticks. All right. I,
26:33
when I first started out on this journey
26:35
of personal growth, felt guilty because
26:37
I didn't have a perfectly curated, Evernote external
26:39
brain with nested folders and all of my
26:41
book summaries and I was supposed to keep
26:43
all of this thing and how am I
26:45
going to remember it and blah, blah, blah.
26:48
Five and a bit years later, people come up to
26:50
me and ask, one of the most common questions to get asked is,
26:52
how the fuck do you remember all of the things that you remember?
26:56
Two things. First off, I don't
26:58
remember anything that I don't care about. And
27:00
the second thing, massive amounts of exposure. Those
27:03
are the only two things that are going on. I've done 670 podcasts in five
27:05
years for hours and all of the reading I had to
27:07
do beforehand and
27:12
all of the listening I had to
27:14
do beforehand as well. And I didn't
27:16
stress myself about what I had to remember. So if
27:19
you listen to this three and a
27:21
bit hour podcast and
27:23
you go, they talk, they said a
27:25
lot of words there. Alex said a lot of words. Chris said a lot
27:27
of words. What's the one thing
27:29
that you couldn't stop thinking about? And there
27:31
may be nothing. Fair play. Week files. If
27:36
there's one thing that you can't stop thinking about,
27:38
that story about the kid from Cumbria, that time
27:40
when Alex had to drive across the country, that's
27:43
the thing. That is the thing.
27:45
And allowing yourself to
27:49
naturally select whatever the most important
27:51
learning is from the content that
27:53
you consume is the best way
27:55
to work out what is going to resonate and it's the best
27:57
way to act on it as well. stop
28:00
thinking about it when you go to bed tonight and you
28:02
can't stop telling your friends about it in the morning and
28:04
you've clipped it from this podcast or any other podcast, any
28:06
other book or whatever, whatever the thing is that you keep
28:08
sending photos of and you keep on reciting to people and
28:10
you try and tell your mum about it and she doesn't
28:12
care. That is the
28:14
thing that you need to work
28:16
on and you don't need to do, if you
28:19
take half a thing from this podcast or any
28:22
other podcast and you work on it for a
28:24
month, you have
28:26
made so much progress and
28:28
do you understand how blessed you
28:30
are to have this opportunity? You could have been born
28:32
in the middle ages before the Gutenberg printing press when
28:34
they wouldn't even give you the Bible in the common
28:36
language so that you had to go through the priest
28:38
to be able to have a relationship with God. Right
28:41
now you can search for whatever it is that you're
28:43
dealing with, find the greatest minds on the planet, listen
28:45
to them and then the next day
28:48
implement it and you move not only yourself
28:50
but you move the world around you. You
28:53
get to nudge yourself and the rest of
28:55
the world in a direction that you want
28:57
to go and you get to feel
28:59
proud about it and it's within your control. You
29:03
have never been more blessed. There's
29:08
a quote that I want to hit here that I think would
29:10
be relevant to what we were just talking
29:12
about with the people who are sad and alone. One
29:16
of the biggest breakthroughs that I had
29:18
from a mental perspective was actually defining
29:20
emotions for what they are operationally. Sadness
29:25
comes from a lack of options or
29:27
rather a lack of perceived options and that's why it
29:29
feels like hopelessness because you don't know what to do.
29:33
When I realized that sadness meant
29:35
that I didn't know what to do, it
29:37
meant that another way that I could define sadness
29:39
was ignorance and that is solvable. Whenever
29:42
I feel sad now, it's been
29:44
my trigger to immediately think, what
29:47
do I not know? What option do I not see?
29:50
Because the opposite of that is anxiety which
29:53
is you have many options and you have few
29:55
priorities. It looks like you have many paths that you
29:57
could pursue and you just don't know which one. being
30:00
able to operationalize what these emotions felt like. So
30:02
if you feel sad, it just means that you
30:04
need to go learn more. And that you can
30:06
do and then all of a sudden the learning
30:08
more becomes the option and then you don't need
30:10
to feel sad anymore. And that
30:12
was like one of the biggest breakthroughs for my like mental health
30:14
or whatever you want to call it, mindset, that
30:17
set me free. And I've
30:19
taken a lot of effort to try and operationalize
30:22
emotions so that I can either
30:24
get out of them or lean into them. So like
30:27
patients, for example, right? I'm only bringing this up because I think
30:29
it might be relevant to some people is that most
30:32
goals are attainable if you expand the time horizon, even
30:34
enormous ones. Like you can do anything in 10 years.
30:36
You could walk to the moon. You could do, there
30:38
you go. You can do anything. And so for
30:41
me, I am, I would say a naturally impatient
30:43
person. Like I tend to want things immediately now.
30:45
And you know what? You probably
30:47
are too. But once
30:49
I defined patients as figuring
30:51
out what to do in the meantime, it
30:54
allowed me to control what I
30:56
did because now like you and
30:58
I are being patient for your
31:01
stock investments right now as
31:03
we're on this podcast, we're being patient for that because we're doing
31:05
things in the meantime. And so whenever
31:07
I felt impatient and wanted to
31:09
change course, I had to
31:12
just redefine what do I need to do today? And if
31:14
you are sad and impatient, then it means that right now
31:16
you need to learn what the option is that you need
31:18
to go for sale. And then
31:20
that makes it very much under your control. And so step
31:22
by step, each of these emotions over time, I spent a
31:24
lot of time trying to define them out so
31:26
that they no longer control me and I know how to
31:28
solve them. And then now
31:31
it just becomes a faster and faster muscle. Like, oh,
31:33
I feel anxiety. That means that I have many
31:35
options that I don't have priorities. Okay, what's my priority?
31:37
And then all of a sudden, what used to
31:39
take days of anxiety and feeling this, you know, frog
31:41
in my throat was just, oh, I
31:44
need to make a list of all the things that I'm
31:46
looking at, which one's the most important, ignore the rest. And
31:48
then I'm good. And what
31:50
you take days takes minutes. One
31:53
of yours is choosing
31:55
the plan isn't hard. Doing
31:58
the plan isn't hard. Sticking. to the plan
32:00
is hot. Charlie Munger
32:02
said, the money isn't made in
32:05
the buy, and it's not made in
32:07
the sell, it's made in the wait. And
32:10
that, I just feel like that's such an elegant
32:12
way of thinking about it. It's like the hard
32:14
part about the plan is sticking to the plan.
32:16
Like the plan wasn't bad. Your first plan was
32:18
good, because it's easy to go say, I'm gonna
32:20
work out three days a week for the next
32:22
year. And it's
32:25
a good plan. It's a good plan. It's a pretty good plan.
32:27
And the interesting thing is that, a
32:30
mediocre plan that's stuck to, always
32:32
outperforms an amazing and perfect plan that you never stick
32:34
with to begin with. And I know this obviously from
32:36
the fitness world, but it applies to everything. And
32:39
so, like, the stick to it
32:41
muscle is the one that you
32:43
have to flex. And that's why, like, if you're
32:45
going through things, especially in the earlier days, like
32:47
I'm ready to start and stop and start and
32:49
stop, and I try this thing, I try that
32:51
thing. It's normal, because you haven't been reinforced enough
32:53
of sticking with something, right? But the
32:55
thing is just that you have to stick it out long enough
32:57
that you get that first carrot, you get that first cookie. And
33:00
then all of a sudden, everything that you did to get there,
33:02
you're like, oh, more of that will get
33:04
me more cookies. And
33:06
then it just becomes this self-perpetuating cycle,
33:08
and then you get addicted to working.
33:10
Yeah, and then you do a launch to 500,000
33:12
people, and you lock yourself in a closet
33:14
six hours a day for two years. Yeah, that's
33:17
exactly that. Because I've been rewarded in the past, because
33:19
the first time I actually spent a lot of time
33:21
on a presentation, and I felt
33:23
good when I walked on stage and didn't feel anxiety, I
33:25
was like, oh, I want this every time. And
33:27
then I had the second thought, which is
33:29
the much scarier thought, which is, now I have to
33:32
do this every time. This is the new bar.
33:34
This is the new bar. I wanna round out something
33:37
on that sort of black pill
33:39
side, which is, if
33:42
you listen to this, and you think,
33:45
must be nice, or easy for you to say,
33:49
I get it, like, I get it. And if
33:51
you feel like there is something that
33:55
you can't get over, some
33:57
genetic, societal
34:00
cultural defect that means that you
34:02
do not have the same ceiling
34:05
that you think that you should or that other people appear
34:07
to have. I get it. And
34:09
the question I would ask is, what do you want? Like
34:11
do you want sympathy? Because I will happily give you sympathy.
34:14
I know what it feels like to be someone that has
34:16
no belief in themselves and that believes that you are fundamentally
34:18
a loser and that nothing is going to come to you
34:20
and that you deserve for nothing to come to you. I
34:22
understand what that feels like. But
34:25
what does that mindset get you? Like
34:27
fundamentally, what does that mindset give you?
34:29
Okay, so let's say that you
34:32
have been dealt as difficult of a
34:34
hand as possible. And?
34:38
Yeah. And to quote you
34:41
to you, I can
34:43
promise you that there is someone who has had it worse and
34:45
has done it better. I put
34:48
this clip out a while ago, this like
34:50
just random talking about a morning routine thing.
34:52
It was pretty basic, but it went fucking interstellar and the
34:55
real internet got a hold of it. You know, like not
34:57
your fans, but like the real internet, like the general public
34:59
and I got a hold of it. The
35:01
most common comment was something along
35:03
the lines of tell me you don't
35:05
have kids without telling me that you don't have kids, which is must
35:08
be easy for you to say, I have a daughter to get in
35:10
the get up in the morning. I'm like, okay, tell
35:12
me what that mindset gets you genuinely tell me what
35:14
that mindset gets you. It says, I'm
35:17
in a situation which I cannot get over.
35:19
And there are things in reality imposed on me,
35:21
which stopped me from doing something. There is somebody
35:24
out there who has three times as many kids
35:26
as you and they still do it. So
35:29
what is it that they've got? Like what is it that
35:31
they're doing? Have they got an unfair advantage? What
35:33
is it? Tell me. It's
35:35
also if you take down, if you
35:38
walk down the natural logic of
35:40
that statement, who do
35:42
you blame? If you're saying must
35:44
be nicer, tell me, tell me that you don't have kids
35:46
without telling me that you don't have kids. Does
35:49
that mean that you blame your
35:51
child for all the things that you don't
35:53
have in life? It's tough,
35:55
tough weight to put on a kid because
35:58
I mean, I would hope that they don't see that it
36:00
because then they'd be like wait mom dad like
36:03
you didn't live out your dreams because I exist. Tough.
36:08
Another one here a sequence actually that
36:10
I love. You
36:12
don't have to feel good about it, you just
36:14
have to keep going. The feeling will pass but
36:17
you will remain. You are
36:19
greater than your feelings. Going
36:21
to bed late and waking up early to work for
36:24
a few days won't kill you. If you're not going
36:26
to burn out you're doing what it takes. If
36:28
you're one of those people that push work-life
36:31
balance just remember the people who like working
36:33
a lot don't care. I've
36:36
never regretted trying harder at anything
36:38
ever. Hard times last
36:40
long but an epic story feels like
36:43
a lifetime. Nailed
36:46
it. Fuck yeah. I
36:48
just think when
36:50
I look at you in particular and
36:52
I realize this during
36:54
our second conversation at the start of this year, the
36:58
reason that people get confused about your
37:01
motivation and your workload is that they don't realize that
37:04
the thing you do for work is the thing that
37:06
you do for fun. That's a fundamental misunderstanding
37:08
that people have. Because
37:12
of that you're prepared to work hard and
37:15
working hard doesn't feel like wasted time.
37:18
Lots of people associate working hard with
37:20
not making progress therefore working
37:22
feels like wasting. The
37:27
idea that working hard doesn't
37:30
make progress is one of the biggest farces that
37:32
exist in humanity because at the end of the
37:34
day whatever you amount to isn't going to matter
37:36
anyways. If there is anything
37:38
that's eternal for us at least as individuals it's
37:41
going to be who we become in the process. One
37:43
of my favorite quotes is, the work works on you
37:45
more than you work on it. If
37:49
you want to be the best in the world at
37:51
something you do the work to become the best in
37:53
the world and the work works on you. There's
37:56
a biblical proverb I think it's just like there
38:01
is profit in all labor. And
38:04
that means that even if the
38:07
thing that you're working on right now doesn't amount
38:09
to the outcome that you expected that it would,
38:11
it doesn't mean that you don't become better through
38:13
doing it. And so I'll
38:16
give you a very real example. So
38:19
I spent five years building a chain
38:21
of gyms. So I had six locations.
38:24
And after that, I sold five of
38:26
them, I shut one down. And then
38:28
I transitioned to doing turnarounds. In
38:31
the transition between shutting my gyms down, I
38:34
got a big payday because I sold my five gyms,
38:36
big for me relative. I took
38:38
all that money and I put it into the next thing. The
38:41
partner that I had in that next thing ended
38:43
up taking the money and
38:45
disappearing, filing bankruptcy and sending it to his
38:47
girlfriend in Sweden. I couldn't make this up.
38:50
So there was no way I could get the money back.
38:52
And he had filed bankruptcy. There's no course of action for
38:54
lawsuit. And so a lot
38:57
of people would probably go through that mental
38:59
situation and think, and I went through
39:01
this, was thinking, I just wasted the
39:03
last five years. I literally started
39:05
to change, put everything into the second location, put everything
39:07
in the third location, the fourth location, kept going. I
39:09
kept doubling down and then I get my big payday
39:11
and I put it all on black and
39:14
then it disappears with one spin of the roulette. And
39:17
so here I am and I'm like, I have nothing to
39:19
show for the last five years of
39:21
work. But
39:23
then in the next 12 months, I made more
39:25
money than I'd ever made in my entire life
39:27
up to that point. The five years, I
39:31
made more profit the next 12 months than I made in the
39:33
last five years, times like five. And
39:36
it was because, and this was only, I was only
39:38
able to realize this in retrospect, which is why I'm
39:40
sharing it, which is that the
39:43
thing that was the outcome of those five years
39:45
was me and the skills and the experiences that
39:48
I possessed through going through it. And so whatever
39:50
the next mountain that you're trying to climb is,
39:52
of course it's going to be higher, but it's
39:54
going to require you to go through the smaller
39:56
mountains to get to that point. Because the more
39:58
able you are, the more able you you realize
40:00
you can become and you
40:02
will get way bigger outcomes from the things that you
40:05
have like the path that led you here then
40:07
you think you can.
40:11
And so that's
40:14
why since that moment where I lost everything
40:16
and then I was able to make more
40:19
in the next 12 months, I realized that
40:21
no work is wasted because I am the
40:23
output of the work, not the outcome. And
40:26
that was one of the biggest frame shifts for
40:28
me in never thinking that work is wasted because
40:30
the more I work, the bigger my work ethic,
40:33
the more my work capacity increases. And to give
40:35
an exercise example because I think it's cool and
40:37
interesting is that a lot of people talk
40:39
about this concept of over-training. Don't worry, I'll bring it back.
40:41
All right, they talk about this concept of over-training. I remember
40:43
I was talking, I had this woman
40:46
that Lael and I are friends with, very successful business
40:48
owner, had a boy toy with her. And
40:51
he was like, aren't you concerned about over-training? And
40:53
I was feeling a little pissy that day. And
40:56
I said, bro, once
40:58
you start looking like you work out, you can worry about
41:00
over-training. I was like, until that point, you
41:03
don't need to worry about over-training. I was being a little bit mean.
41:06
But I think he did remember it and he did change the
41:08
way he trained and he did gain muscle afterwards. So I thought,
41:10
okay about it. Now the point
41:12
of that little quip, right, was that
41:15
what I explained to him is that your ability
41:17
to recover from working out
41:20
itself is trainable. So
41:22
when you do more volume, your ability to
41:24
withstand volume, your work capacity increases. And so
41:26
to the same degree, people are like, I
41:29
feel burnt out. The thing is that you
41:31
either die or you adapt. That's
41:33
it, right? In the fitness world, you either die, get
41:35
injured or adapt, right? And since you're probably not going to
41:37
die, you really just need to make sure that you don't
41:39
get injured. And if you don't get injured and you
41:41
don't die, you get better. And
41:44
so that mental process in terms of how I
41:46
see work has been like the most self-fulfilling prophecy that
41:48
I've had because the more I work, the better
41:50
I get it working. The more productive I am per
41:52
unit of time. And
41:55
then I get the outcomes that happen eventually. But the point
41:57
is, and you probably, I mean, I already know you know
41:59
this, but The outcomes
42:02
become so irrelevant compared to the reward that
42:04
you get in the meantime. Because
42:06
the people who are experts, and this is from
42:08
my good friend Dr. Kashi, people
42:10
who are experts at any skill become
42:13
experts because they learn how to become
42:15
rewarded from the work itself. And
42:17
so like they don't actually have something
42:19
that you don't. It's just that they
42:21
measure success differently. Judge
42:26
yourself by your actions, not by your
42:28
thoughts. I became significantly less
42:30
disappointed in myself when I started judging
42:32
myself only on the actions I took,
42:34
not the thoughts I had. So
42:40
patience is a virtue that I feel like I haven't had.
42:42
And it's been something that I've spoken over myself for many
42:44
years. I was like, I'm an impatient person. I want things
42:46
fast, etc. When I
42:48
realized that I should use
42:50
the same lens that I judge other people on when I
42:52
judge myself, which is someone might say, I'm a really honest
42:55
guy. But if I have no evidence that you're an honest
42:57
person, or when I put you in a situation where you
42:59
could be honest and you're not, I would say, no, you're
43:01
not. Now that person probably thinks of themselves as honest, or
43:03
to the same degree, I'm a really loyal guy. But as
43:05
soon as I put a 10 in front of you and
43:08
you've got your girl at home, you jump. You're not that
43:10
loyal. You just haven't had the opportunity to show that you're
43:12
loyal. And so for
43:14
me, my thoughts about what I thought
43:16
I was were actually really negative. But
43:19
when I tried to think, okay, well, I
43:22
can be patient if I act patient, even
43:24
if I don't feel patient. And
43:26
then that allowed me to start giving
43:28
myself a stack of undeniable proof that
43:31
I am who I wanted to be. And
43:34
I don't believe in binary traits, meaning like he's
43:36
patient or he's impatient, or he's loyal or he's
43:39
disloyal. The question is, how loyal
43:41
are you? How honest are you? How patient
43:43
are you? And by switching the
43:45
character traits that I wanted to have into progressions
43:47
or continuums allowed me to make progress on them
43:49
simply by giving myself more proof or one more
43:51
penny on the scale that says I'm a little
43:54
bit more patient than I was. I'm a little
43:56
bit more patient. I'm a little bit more patient
43:58
to the point where I. There's so many pennies
44:00
on the scale that I can say, I think I am
44:02
pretty patient. Even though every time I put a penny on
44:04
the scale, I don't wanna put a penny on the scale.
44:06
I wanna get the thing to happen today. I wanted to
44:08
happen yesterday because why is it taking so long? It didn't
44:10
take that long for this person. I feel like I work
44:12
harder than them and I feel like I'm better than them.
44:14
Why am I not doing that? But I
44:17
put the penny on the scale. Hey,
44:21
Mozen Nation, quick break just to let you know we've been
44:23
starting to post on LinkedIn and want to connect with you.
44:25
All right, so send me a connection request and note letting
44:27
me know that you listen to the show and I will
44:30
accept it. There's anyone you think that we should be connected
44:32
with, tag them in one of my or Layla's posts and
44:34
I will give you all the love in the world. All
44:36
right, so let's get back to the show. Well,
44:41
ultimately, what is patience? Is patience feeling
44:43
patient or is patience doing the thing
44:45
that is patience? So Sam Harrison, his
44:47
first conversation with Jocko Willink about 10
44:49
years ago, they talk about how courage
44:51
is an unfakable emotion and it's such
44:53
a good frame. You're gonna love this.
44:56
So he said, if you
44:58
do the thing in spite of being fearful
45:00
of doing the thing, that is courage. And
45:03
if you don't do the thing, even though you
45:05
felt like doing the thing, that is cowardice. And
45:07
I think that motivation and patience are exactly the
45:09
same. If you're patient, despite
45:12
not feeling patient, that
45:14
is patience. Yes. That
45:16
is how it works. And that was,
45:18
that realization that you just said was
45:20
the reason for that quote, because
45:22
it was me realizing that
45:25
I can actually have
45:27
these traits even if I don't feel like I live
45:29
those traits. And so that's why probably, at least for
45:31
me, when people are like, whatever
45:34
the trait is, he's so humble, he's
45:36
so whatever. Like, you
45:38
probably will never feel like you have the
45:40
trait, but you can
45:42
still have the trait based on evidence rather than
45:45
emotion. And I think that frame of evidence has
45:47
been, I mean, if I had
45:49
a North Star of personal development for
45:51
myself, it's been just give
45:53
myself proof. And I mean,
45:56
In so many ways, like the reason that I didn't, I
45:58
mean, I'm gonna go on attention, but. Again, I'll bring it
46:00
back. I. Didn't talk about
46:02
how to run gyms. Until. I had
46:05
six gems because I didn't feel like I was qualified
46:07
enough to talk about it. And I always start talking
46:09
about gyms when so many people are like you. How
46:11
to run Egypt Saudi when he jumps in a fiery
46:13
want. Even before that, I didn't feel qualified to talk
46:15
about sickness, but I'd had a six pack for a
46:17
decade. you don't I mean, and I had multiple state
46:19
state records. but I still feel qualified to talk about
46:21
fitness and to everyone was like dude, how to you
46:24
paid you this, How to structure, How do you could
46:26
eat this way whatever. It is right and so. If
46:29
you, if you can give yourself evidence. The.
46:32
World around you like seem like you're
46:34
evidence will change how people treat you
46:36
the of independent of how you feel
46:39
about. It. So this is
46:41
why the must be easy must be
46:43
nice to is so flawed. Because.
46:45
What you're saying is I see the
46:48
outcomes. And. I have no idea of
46:50
the difficulty of the inputs. I. Have absolutely
46:52
no idea what barriers you need to
46:54
get over you could be. You could
46:56
find it ninety nine out of one
46:58
hundred. difficult to be patient. And
47:01
yet you all. Must. Be nice for
47:03
you. you've got that patients june to go. Eat
47:06
shit, Eat
47:08
shit. You have no idea how hard it is for
47:10
people to do the things that they do and the
47:12
people that make it look easy. In.
47:14
Some regards. Contribute. To
47:16
this problem like I and this is why I
47:19
really loves the i'm massive fan of of a
47:21
lot of your work and I think that one
47:23
of the reasons is that it so. Honest.
47:26
And and self effacing about the challenges and
47:28
about the steps the you have to get
47:31
through. And because the journey is relatively well
47:33
now retired and you can, you can track
47:35
it step by step and you've created a
47:37
kind of a cohesive timeline of how the
47:39
all of this stuff works. There is a
47:41
point along specifically your journey but hopefully mine
47:43
in other people's to where people can. Inject.
47:46
Themselves and said oh. I'm
47:48
at not been. I'm. The fifteen
47:50
year old that I'm at that bit I resent
47:52
my parents to. I just lost all my money
47:54
either. I feel like I needed that. That that
47:57
you know like the have every different problem that
47:59
you can encounter. Life is present in Alex assigned lot
48:01
of. And I think
48:03
that that's really important. I think this: this is one of
48:05
the. I would say this
48:07
is a criticism that I have about some
48:09
of the personal development, self growth, and a
48:11
lot of the business advice as well. Even
48:15
the bad times. A romanticized. And.
48:19
The. Not fucking romantic. Like
48:21
it feels like hell. It feels
48:23
like shit to do the thing
48:25
to sail, to not feel like
48:27
anybody cares about you, to not
48:30
even know that there's going to
48:32
be. Glory. In
48:34
retrospect, It
48:37
feels despondent and destitute and
48:39
sad and alone. And
48:42
I get it. And I think that the more
48:44
visceral. That we can make
48:46
these stories the better. It is because I know
48:49
that that's what would have resonated with makes I
48:51
would have gone. That's an undeniable stack of proof
48:53
that you whoa what you said you are. I'll
48:57
tell you on that. May be will resonate
48:59
with somebody in the audience. So I remember. When.
49:02
I decided to move so I moved to California to
49:04
start a gym or get into fitness and I got
49:06
there and the guy who I suppose get a mentor
49:08
and it was like where are you staying in Ozarks
49:11
I don't I just got here is a good evening
49:13
you don't like our i just had showed up and
49:15
so he went the as she said I could see
49:17
but his by said night the next morning went to
49:19
the gym and he got i'm sharon said hey. Who
49:22
years going to? How's this kid Moon guy came
49:24
up to music or give you room. So I
49:26
rented one room and a house. Or forty bucks
49:28
a month. And then when I left that room
49:30
to start sleeping at the gym which was an
49:33
hour weeks I could make the commutes. I say
49:35
four hundred bucks a month I murmur being actually
49:37
kind of excited about. I remember being like men
49:39
have discovered know fetishist or yeah to see me
49:41
some in a bit less Is my rocky Cut
49:43
scene right? The things that the rocky cut seamless.
49:45
Thirty seconds in the movie. But
49:47
can last five years in your life and
49:49
when I was sleeping on the gym floor
49:52
or give you a detail that. the
49:54
that i'll tell you that hims to the stack
49:56
of and and i were if i'm with that
49:58
i my first him was underneath of a parking
50:00
garage. And so there's these metal
50:03
dividers in the ceiling. And so cars would drive
50:05
over this and it's a concrete box. And so
50:07
it sounded like a gunshot like doo doo doo
50:09
doo doo doo doo. And it would happen at
50:11
all hours of the night. And probably the
50:13
most painful from an emotional perspective experience that
50:15
I would have on a regular basis was
50:17
that it was also abandoned enough parking a
50:20
lot that college kids, kids my age, would
50:22
go up and party on the roof. And
50:25
so like while they were partying, literally above my
50:27
head and making noise that would prevent me from
50:29
sleeping, I would be down
50:31
below in an in a dark warehouse in a
50:33
city that I knew no one. I
50:37
was from Baltimore, I drove across the country, I went to
50:39
Huntington Beach, I literally knew no one and no one knew
50:41
me. And so I'm sleeping there.
50:43
And then I realized that I can't really sleep
50:45
at night. And so I'm taking
50:47
basically I'm living on naps for
50:50
the first six months of the gym. And
50:53
like homeless people are sleeping in my parking lot. And
50:55
I have to like go out and tell them to
50:57
like go away and then I get back, lock the
50:59
door and I go back on the AstroTurf, which is
51:01
where I slept with a blanket and a pillow. And
51:04
I bring this up because like the
51:07
visceral feeling that
51:09
you go through when you're going through the
51:11
mound of shit period or the shit eating,
51:14
what feels like a marathon is
51:16
that it's, it
51:18
becomes a 30 second soundbite
51:20
in my story. But it
51:23
was years. And so like even to the same degree,
51:25
we're like, man, you're such a natural salesman. The first
51:27
job I ever got offered out of college was a
51:29
sales job. And I said, I'm not a salesman, I'm
51:31
an academic. And
51:33
then as soon as I opened my gym, I was like, oh shit,
51:35
how do I pay rent? And someone walked in the door and I
51:38
was like, please give me money. I
51:40
promise. I had no equipment in
51:42
my gym because I couldn't afford any. So
51:44
it's an empty gym with just turf. And
51:46
I was like, I promise you, I will
51:48
get you amazing results. And they were like, are you going
51:50
to be here tomorrow? And I was like, I sleep here. I have
51:52
to be here. I promise I'll be
51:54
here. It's impossible for me to not be here. I
51:56
can't live. I can't leave. Right. And so The
51:59
early people took. Pity on me when they
52:01
literally pay different. The first twenty nine members I
52:03
signed up in the first two weeks for the
52:05
gym opened was from pity, it was in from
52:07
charisma. It was pure pity. I'll be religious and
52:10
was the exact him out that I needed to
52:12
pay rent and I remember the first month of
52:14
rent that I paid with. this is actually wild
52:16
and least only what did this. In retrospect I
52:18
made exactly four thousand nine hundred and seventy two
52:20
dollars my first month of my gym. My rent
52:23
was four thousand nine hundred and seventy two dollars
52:25
and I'm I'm are working like a dog to
52:27
get that. I'd never made my my life like
52:29
a different. Like really as anyone from on in office
52:31
and I to come up five thousand dollars in a
52:33
month and then at the end of the month I
52:36
watched to go to zero and then I was like
52:38
to do it again and that was when like the
52:40
reality of the situation of like there was no escape
52:42
there was no one who is going to come to
52:44
save me And there was and I couldn't blame. My
52:46
data couldn't play my mom I was the one who
52:48
chosen the size. But. The
52:50
alternative was that I had to go back to
52:53
my father a failure and have i'm working with
52:55
me in the eyes and say i told you
52:57
and come here and toward Had a told you
52:59
this this gym stuff this fitness stuff the starting
53:01
of it's it's it's for later is fine. Scuba
53:04
hits if you've got this effect is great degree
53:06
got disco to go to the business school is
53:08
and I knew exactly what happens but would have
53:10
happened after that. Is. That for the
53:12
rest of my life he would have had absolute
53:15
authority over everything that I did and that felt
53:17
like dust. And so that was what I ran
53:19
away from when I was in that moment. Like
53:21
whenever I felt like my back was against the
53:23
one. I didn't know what to do and it
53:25
felt like the instagram reels of like The Motivation
53:27
weren't going to get me through what I was
53:29
going through because no one cared that I was
53:31
sitting one, I'd let them know and sleep on
53:33
the floor and a month later when her. Since
53:35
even the forums like don't care like great you
53:38
pursuing your dream right. Early this
53:40
Christmas. But.
53:43
Despite. That. The must be
53:45
easy mantra is the easiest indicator
53:47
that you have a victim mindset.
53:50
Because what it means is. I.
53:53
Can't achieve this thing because on some level is a
53:55
must be easy there some level of desire that the
53:57
you're like I'd like to to some aspect of this
53:59
and then. I didn't feel the pain
54:01
of saying that I'm inadequate er I'm not
54:03
taking action we sweetest are or inadequacy on
54:05
some outside object or some outside circumstance In
54:07
by doing that we remove all agency or
54:09
power that we have of her lot of
54:12
our lives in. for me I'd rather be
54:14
somebody who is absolute power and have nothing
54:16
to show for it to somebody who has
54:18
all the all that the things to show
54:20
for it but know that I'm life's bit.
54:25
Life being one protracted
54:27
training montage. Is a
54:30
really important lesson to learn. The.
54:32
Fact that in the Rocky movie it
54:34
is. Ninety seconds
54:36
and it's done. Everything is
54:38
fixed. And that can last for decades.
54:41
I can last for years. and I think that.
54:44
The. Lack of glory. The
54:46
lack of certainty. He
54:50
makes it it. It turns it
54:52
from. Worthwhile.
54:56
Majesty. Into.
55:00
A. It's it's not even sufficiently
55:03
triumphant to be called sad.
55:06
Like it's just. Like
55:08
week. And pithy and you have
55:10
no idea if anything's gonna work. But.
55:12
What's the alternative? Entropy is gonna
55:15
come fucking get you. So what's
55:17
the alternative? Like much Twitter
55:19
bio says locally reversing entropy and I
55:21
I think that. That. Really
55:23
is what you should try and do which is
55:25
going fucking competes. The lack of certainty is what
55:27
actually makes it worth it. And so here's my
55:29
point was Think let's consider the alternative which is
55:32
that you are on the path and you are
55:34
guaranteed to know that you're going to get the
55:36
outcome. All.
55:39
The mystery is gone. There. is no
55:41
excitement which is why they said in on the
55:43
inch ancient romans are so the ancient greeks say
55:45
that the gods always and be the mortals because
55:47
their life was so ephemeral they had so much
55:49
chance that could happen to them right where the
55:51
gods always knew they were going to die and
55:53
it was completely guaranteed in so what we do
55:56
is we basically have this wish that if it
55:58
actually came true we would he did you more
56:00
than our current circumstance. If you
56:02
knew that you were going to succeed, it wouldn't
56:04
be worth doing to begin with. The
56:06
fact that you are uncertain when you start
56:08
is what makes it worthwhile. And
56:10
the fallacy of being in
56:12
the pursuit is the worry or the concern
56:15
that it won't amount to anything because who
56:17
you are becoming is the thing that you
56:19
are amounting to in real time every day.
56:23
This was something that Mark Manson tweeted. He
56:26
put it in his newsletter actually and it
56:28
made me think of a lesson that I
56:30
learned a long time ago. Stop
56:33
complaining about the results you didn't get from the
56:36
work you didn't put in. The
56:38
only way to become more successful than most
56:40
people is to be willing to do something
56:42
most people aren't willing to do. And
56:46
this is that lean in mentality again. It's like,
56:48
look, it sucks, it's
56:50
shitty, you're tired, everybody
56:52
says that you're leaving your friends behind,
56:54
leaving your family behind, betraying your culture,
56:56
betraying whatever expectation it is that they
56:58
have on you. You
57:01
need to do something that most people aren't
57:03
willing to do because as we've said, the
57:05
average American is obese, in debt and divorced.
57:07
Is that really, oh brilliant, fantastic. I'm in
57:09
the fucking center of the bell curve distribution
57:11
here. That's really, congratulations. And
57:13
then the other side, stop complaining about the results you didn't
57:15
get from the work you didn't put in. Okay,
57:18
so you didn't lose weight this month. Did you follow
57:20
your diet? Well, I did for half
57:22
the month. Okay, so
57:24
is it any surprise that you didn't lose any weight? How's
57:27
your content creation game going? Well,
57:29
I spent a lot of time planning
57:32
for the podcasts that I'm going to release or for the
57:34
Instagram that I'm going to start or from the sub-stack that
57:36
I'm going to begin writing on. Okay,
57:39
and what did you actually do? It comes back to
57:41
like, the work doesn't
57:43
care. Yeah.
57:46
Charlie Munger in one of his seminal
57:48
speeches, he talks about how to guarantee
57:50
failure, how to make sure that you are a
57:52
failure. And he inverts the concept
57:54
of success. It's like, what could you do to make
57:56
sure that you were a failure? It's like, well, you
57:59
would definitely get involved. in drugs, drinking, he
58:01
says, was it leverage liquor in women? That's
58:03
the Charlie's big one, right? But
58:06
one of the ones that he has, I think he has seven in
58:09
his speech, is consistency. He's
58:13
like, you have to make sure that you're inconsistent. He's
58:16
like, because if you are
58:18
consistent and you have none of the other
58:20
attributes, he's like, you still
58:22
might be successful. He's like, it's
58:24
very tough for people who are consistent to
58:26
not be successful. He makes an especially
58:29
pointed point about consistency because in my opinion,
58:31
it's one of the most difficult of the
58:33
virtues for humans to do because we're so
58:35
attracted to novelty. I
58:39
used to deal with this with people on their diet all
58:41
the time. I remember I ran gyms. Someone would
58:43
come in and I would always ask the question, so have
58:45
you been following the meal plan? Then they would say, yes.
58:48
Then I started changing the way I asked the question. I'd
58:50
say, out of the 21 meals that you were supposed to
58:53
eat, how many of the 21 did you have exactly the
58:55
way it was on the meal plan? Then
58:57
they would be like, oh, I mean at least half. They
59:00
would say it as though that was a
59:02
mark of success. Right now, the meal plan
59:04
could be your content plan. It could be
59:06
your showing up to work on
59:08
time plan. It could be the time that you want to put towards your
59:10
side hustle. It doesn't really matter. If
59:13
there's one muscle that you can flex, it's learning
59:15
to do the same thing over and over again.
59:17
One of the values that we had at Jim
59:19
Lohens is do the boring work because
59:21
boring is what makes you rich. It's
59:24
writing the follow-up sequence
59:27
to the purchase page that you don't feel
59:29
like doing, but you know you should do. It's
59:32
running the split test for the 10th time.
59:35
It's actually going through and prepping for 20
59:37
minutes before you have the meeting. Because
59:41
it's amazing how much smarter you can appear with
59:44
20 minutes of preparation. You can appear 50
59:46
IQ points smarter if you just prepare for
59:48
meetings for 20 minutes. I remember I did
59:50
a consulting day, which I've only done three
59:53
in my entire life. When
59:55
I showed up to the day, because I always
59:57
want to make sure that everyone always gets more from me than they
59:59
give me. I
1:00:01
had taken, I don't know, four hours.
1:00:04
Not a long time, but a long time for I think some
1:00:06
people, but for me four hours is nothing. I count in hundreds,
1:00:08
so this is irrelevant. And so
1:00:10
I put like four hours and actually took the
1:00:12
time and put it in to do research on
1:00:14
the individual. So I looked at every single page
1:00:16
they had, every landing page, every offer, every everything.
1:00:18
And I had seven pages of things that I
1:00:20
thought would make them more money. And
1:00:23
so when I started, I was like, this is what we're going to go through
1:00:25
today and I'll walk you through line by line and you'll have this as a
1:00:27
take-by so you can execute it with your team. It
1:00:30
was a bigger company. And the guy
1:00:32
was shocked. He was like, never
1:00:34
in my entire life has anyone had this
1:00:36
much preparation. And that's what goes
1:00:38
back to like, you need 20 podcasts to be in
1:00:40
the top 1%. The
1:00:44
bar for excellence, like I
1:00:46
have this timer that I have on my desk, which it's
1:00:48
the easiest purchase you can make. I think it was like
1:00:51
seven bucks on Amazon. It's a little twist kitchen timer. It's
1:00:53
very easy. And it's been
1:00:55
probably my biggest focus act to date, which
1:00:57
is I turn it when I want
1:00:59
to start working. And part of it allows me to think how
1:01:01
long – I get better at predicting how long it's going to
1:01:04
take me to do something. So I think this will take me
1:01:06
35 minutes. So I turn the clock to 35 and I click
1:01:08
on. And then I start working on the thing. And the moment
1:01:10
my phone rings or I look at Slack or whatever, I stop
1:01:12
the timer. And so you actually see
1:01:14
that your time on task is usually significantly less
1:01:16
than you think it is. And
1:01:19
I think that in my early days, I would spend
1:01:21
a very long time in front of a computer telling
1:01:24
myself that I was working with very
1:01:26
few minutes actually on task. And
1:01:28
that's why I think that most things are actually significantly
1:01:30
easier than people think they are. They just don't know
1:01:32
how to try hard. Because
1:01:34
the harder that you try, the easier it gets. And
1:01:38
so it's like if you can just learn to love
1:01:40
what trying hard feels like, then
1:01:42
all of a sudden it becomes unreasonable that you can't
1:01:44
win. So like for the presentation
1:01:46
that I'm giving, I explained a little bit earlier about what
1:01:49
my process looks like. If you were to say, what would
1:01:51
it take for somebody to be unreasonably good, that it would
1:01:53
be impossible for them to not be a top 1% salesman
1:01:56
or a top 1% content creator? And
1:01:58
You said, what would that person need to do? Irrelevant from
1:02:00
outcomes would be the actions are evidence that they would
1:02:02
have to do prior to that thing That would make
1:02:04
it unreasonable that he couldn't succeed. And.
1:02:07
Then you do those things. What happens is
1:02:09
you realize that it's actually not that hard because
1:02:11
you put so much work into it in.
1:02:13
The barks from other people working is so
1:02:15
embarrassingly low that they then ask you how you
1:02:18
did. It must be easy. Consistency.
1:02:24
Doesn't. Guarantee that you'll be successful. But.
1:02:27
Not being consistent will guarantee one
1:02:29
reached success. You. Have a
1:02:32
productivity hack. An Easy productivity hacks.
1:02:34
Instead of spending time getting in
1:02:36
the mood to work. Just
1:02:38
start working. Confront the work. People.
1:02:40
Think they need perfect conditions to
1:02:42
start when in reality. Starting
1:02:45
is the perfect condition. A
1:02:48
married to that. I
1:02:50
love that! Because. If
1:02:53
you think. Like. I feel I have
1:02:55
you seen somebody always was optimize how much work
1:02:58
I do per unit of time and so I
1:03:00
was. In other words if we times earlier my
1:03:02
life was really romanticized by these like very extensive
1:03:04
morning or teams and supplement rituals and like all
1:03:07
the stuff of mental masturbation are on the work
1:03:09
that need to be done but when I looked
1:03:11
at two hours later nothing had actually gotten done.
1:03:15
The. Moment you begin working. Is.
1:03:18
When your output per unit of time, this up. And
1:03:21
so that makes beginning.
1:03:23
The. Single greatest fact that you can have for
1:03:25
everything else that you do and work because things
1:03:28
when you start working you start getting in the
1:03:30
mood to work. Relic everything else is procrastinating around
1:03:32
the work that you think you should do. But
1:03:34
like I have noticed for me at least I
1:03:36
have these. I've some big mental tasks you know
1:03:39
to me like big concert peace A big thing
1:03:41
that you need like you know it's get Roman
1:03:43
to effort. It takes me like five minutes of
1:03:45
actually being in it to get of a little
1:03:47
bit of of lay of the land to then
1:03:49
get into it. but I used to take hours
1:03:52
to delay to start the first five. minutes and
1:03:54
so my time compression of when i thought i
1:03:56
should start doing something when i started doing it's
1:03:58
overtime mrs compressor the point It's like the moment
1:04:00
I think that I need to start doing it. Sometimes I
1:04:02
just start it because then what happens, I get this open
1:04:05
loop. And so rather than complete work at like, cause a
1:04:07
lot of people are like, I want to complete it at
1:04:09
this really nice clean point. Stop halfway
1:04:11
through the Senate's cause it'll drive you mad. That's
1:04:13
the zygonic effect in full work. You know this
1:04:15
story, it's zygonic. I know. Wow. This is, it's
1:04:18
what that's way more than I do. That's what
1:04:20
you shut up. That's what you're leveraging here. So,
1:04:22
um, the zygonic effect
1:04:24
was a study originally done on
1:04:26
servers in restaurants. Okay. And they
1:04:28
realized you've ever been at a restaurant and a
1:04:31
server comes up and stands with the hands behind the back and go,
1:04:33
what would you like tonight? So, and you say, I'll have the lobster
1:04:35
roll and a glass of red wine and a blah blah, and you're
1:04:37
like, this motherfucker is not, he hasn't
1:04:39
got a pen or a pad of
1:04:41
paper, it's crazy. And then they go off
1:04:43
and what they realized was servers
1:04:45
in restaurants. What
1:04:47
unbelievably good at being able to recall exactly
1:04:50
what a table's order was while that table's
1:04:52
order was still open. So, uh, guys
1:04:55
in table 16, uh, they want to swap the
1:04:58
peas out for a little bit of extra rice
1:05:00
and they're doing this thing. As soon as the
1:05:02
table was closed, they couldn't remember
1:05:04
anything. So this is an open loop closed
1:05:06
loop system and it's built into the brain.
1:05:09
The brain abhors an open loop. It's
1:05:12
the same reason why Netflix cliffhangers at
1:05:14
the end of every episode guaranteed that
1:05:16
you'll watch the next one because you
1:05:18
can't bear the fact there's even novels
1:05:21
in the dark romance genre that make
1:05:23
guarantees that there won't be cliffhangers. They
1:05:25
make, they put it on the front or the
1:05:28
back of the book and they say no cliffhangers
1:05:30
guaranteed, which is people
1:05:32
have so much to say for it that it's
1:05:34
a selling point that you get the closure at
1:05:36
the end of it and finishing
1:05:38
halfway through a sentence reduces
1:05:41
the activation energy required to begin that
1:05:43
sentence the next day and it keeps
1:05:45
it in your mind too overnight. So
1:05:47
I think, yeah, whether you've
1:05:49
stumbled on it or whether you knew about it,
1:05:52
you've managed to leverage a pretty powerful piece of
1:05:54
psychology there. Going
1:05:56
back to the work thing, uh, another
1:05:59
one from you that I. absolutely adore. It just
1:06:01
takes work. Shit loads and shit
1:06:03
loads of work. Every time I
1:06:05
try and dress it up or cut a corner, I
1:06:07
get brutally reminded the work just needs
1:06:10
doing. The work doesn't care
1:06:12
who you are. It just
1:06:14
cares that it gets done. I'm
1:06:18
actually going to reverse quote David Goggins on this
1:06:20
one. But I love
1:06:22
this quote that he has, which he says, there's
1:06:24
no shortcuts for you, David, or there's no shortcuts
1:06:26
for you Goggins. I heard him say that. And
1:06:28
I just love that as a refrain, which
1:06:30
is that a lot of people look for a shortcut.
1:06:33
But the idea that you say like, they're not for
1:06:35
you, you don't get to use them. You
1:06:37
are immune to shortcuts. I
1:06:40
just love it because then it just further shortcuts
1:06:42
the path to the work that needs to get
1:06:44
done. And I wrote
1:06:46
that tweet on my, I
1:06:48
don't know, 11th run
1:06:51
of this presentation that I'm doing, because
1:06:53
that's a recent one. And so I
1:06:55
was, it was like 11 o'clock at night. And
1:06:57
so right now I'm working triple shifts, which is
1:06:59
not common for me. I usually do two, not
1:07:01
three. So for me in normal
1:07:03
work days, like I wake up, I start
1:07:05
working at six or seven, and then I go until about
1:07:07
six ish. So it's like 10 to 12 really
1:07:10
concentrated hours work. And that I can do six and
1:07:13
a half days a week, I usually take Saturday afternoons off. And
1:07:16
it's really just because at that point, I can't
1:07:18
work anymore and my brains do and then I get my one half
1:07:20
day and then I'm good to go. And I'm rearing to kick on,
1:07:22
you know, to work on Sundays. My
1:07:25
triple shift is I get, I go to dinner and I come back
1:07:27
at 730, then I work from 730 until 1130
1:07:30
or one or whatever, right? And
1:07:33
when I'm putting in triple shifts is when I know I'm
1:07:35
like really gassing it. And
1:07:38
that's, that's when I'm like repeatedly doing 16, 17 a day
1:07:41
of actual productive work. And
1:07:43
I hear the
1:07:45
same thoughts that everyone does, which is like, it's
1:07:48
not going to matter. Like, it's fine. You've like,
1:07:50
it's good enough. Like I hate that. Like it
1:07:52
makes me sick to even say that, right? Because
1:07:54
The thing that I like David Goggins, right?
1:07:56
He's got like, there's no shortcuts for you.
1:07:59
I would say. It. I. Have
1:08:01
two that are like my internal once. One.
1:08:03
That is probably the most common is I will do
1:08:05
what is required. And.
1:08:10
This. Work needs doing. And
1:08:12
there's just no way around it. And.
1:08:15
It's just it's just looking at the face of
1:08:17
the work and like smiling back at me like.
1:08:20
No. One else is gonna do it.
1:08:22
Twists and like. I.
1:08:24
Love that one. Like it when we're recording content in
1:08:26
the early as we're doing like a hundred shorts every
1:08:28
time we did it and he was direct a camera
1:08:30
and it was the only time I could fit it
1:08:32
in with all the profile of there are doing. And
1:08:35
saw us. It was always like I
1:08:37
will do it's required and that's been
1:08:39
a really helpful refrain from me when
1:08:41
I'm confronted with, especially when you know
1:08:44
what nice to get done and the
1:08:46
second one is. But. I'll
1:08:48
know. And.
1:08:51
So like even if it does go
1:08:53
well and even if everyone else has,
1:08:55
it's great. But. I'll know. And.
1:08:58
It'll then rob me of all of the
1:09:00
joy of all of those moments in that
1:09:02
experience, because I'll know. That I
1:09:05
could have done better in the thing
1:09:07
is is like to cook myself from
1:09:09
earlier like I've never regretted working harder.
1:09:12
Ever Not once. And some people like on your
1:09:14
deathbed you can like know because I loved every
1:09:16
moment of my day doing what I wanted to
1:09:19
do and I remember had a boss when I
1:09:21
am. My. First boss after
1:09:23
college. She said this
1:09:25
thing I had at up a particularly
1:09:27
good weekend and. She. Said.
1:09:30
I'm pretty sure. happiness. Is.
1:09:33
Stringing as many of those days and
1:09:35
arose you possibly can. And although I
1:09:37
hated the job, That. Piece
1:09:39
of Advice has actually been probably what
1:09:42
I has been my blueprint for How
1:09:44
to Live which is like my birthday.
1:09:46
It looks the same is my Tuesday's
1:09:48
which looks the same as my Sundays
1:09:50
you know what the original name. Pool.
1:09:53
for this podcast was is the only
1:09:56
time in history i've done branding my
1:09:58
entire adult life and with nights all
1:10:00
you're doing is coming up with brands. Paradiso,
1:10:04
it's tropical, there'll be a flamingo, a
1:10:06
skint, it's a cheap night, it's for
1:10:08
people to get fingered in the corner.
1:10:10
All I did was branding, I
1:10:13
was a branding guy, I'm pretty good at copywriting, all I
1:10:15
did was branding. The one time
1:10:17
I've had Divine Inspiration, 3 in the morning wake
1:10:19
up with the name was Modern Wisdom. The one
1:10:21
time out of every business, every night, every brand
1:10:23
I've ever come up with, that was the one
1:10:26
time. But on the list of the others, Mind
1:10:29
and Matter was one of them. The other
1:10:32
one was a quote from Tim Ferriss, it's called
1:10:34
Crushing a Tuesday. And he said
1:10:36
that what you should aim for in life is
1:10:38
for your average Tuesday. Not
1:10:41
the spectacular one-time private jet with
1:10:43
the friends to go for the
1:10:45
whatever, whatever, not the UFC
1:10:48
power slap launch party staring at
1:10:50
the back of
1:10:52
Dan Bilzerian's Dirty Mullis. Not
1:10:55
that. You want your average Tuesday
1:10:58
to look the way you want most of your life to do. And when
1:11:02
I think about the days that I look back on at the end of
1:11:04
my day and think today was a good day, invariably
1:11:06
it's the same few things. I
1:11:08
worked very hard on something that
1:11:10
I felt was worth doing. I
1:11:13
worked out and I spent
1:11:15
time with people that I enjoy being around.
1:11:19
If I do those three things, I
1:11:21
had a good day. And so that's been
1:11:23
my, Alex's simple blueprint for
1:11:25
doing things. And I think the point that you were making
1:11:27
earlier, I think it's worth hitting on again, which is just
1:11:29
that like most people's definition of
1:11:31
work is a negative one, which is why they abhor
1:11:34
it, which is also why they misunderstand so many people
1:11:36
who quote, I'll say quote here, are successful or ahead
1:11:38
of them or whatever, is that both
1:11:40
people, one person says the word work and the
1:11:42
other person hears the word pain. And
1:11:45
so the first
1:11:47
step to becoming more successful is understanding the
1:11:49
language that the people who are successful are
1:11:52
using. They're actually defining the word differently. And
1:11:55
so whatever That
1:11:57
thing is that you actually enjoy doing where you lose
1:11:59
track of. Time when you're in it even if
1:12:01
it's challenging. but usually it is challenging. Cry like it's
1:12:03
not so easy cousin, it's boring. Wrote is also why
1:12:05
the uncertainty thing is so key. right to not knowing
1:12:08
if it's You know if it's gonna work in Op's
1:12:10
you are going to work though he the rest of.
1:12:13
His that. The. People who are cool addicted
1:12:15
to work make it easy to be addicted to work
1:12:17
because they. Do
1:12:19
things worse? Doing. And. I
1:12:21
think a lot of it is coming down to
1:12:23
making sure that you take the few precious seconds
1:12:25
that we have to do the few things that
1:12:27
are worth doing for the rest your life. The.
1:12:31
More I listened to this, the better my
1:12:33
life gets. If they don't have
1:12:35
what you want, don't listen to what they
1:12:37
say. There's. No greater waste
1:12:40
of time. Than. Justifying your
1:12:42
actions to people who have a
1:12:44
life you don't want. That
1:12:48
was a message to my younger self. But
1:12:51
I'm I remember I got an
1:12:53
why won't open out of. Me:
1:12:58
See, I can say this the right way. I'm. Not
1:13:04
or to say or whitewash the names. So
1:13:06
I was with the family member and we're
1:13:09
all around the kitchen table is during the
1:13:11
holidays that have gone very much and. Face.
1:13:14
Kind of started attacking me. I'm.
1:13:17
And. They're like. I.
1:13:19
Would never live your life. You're
1:13:21
so unbalanced like attacking and I was
1:13:23
like. When. You say?
1:13:27
And. She.
1:13:30
Said. I
1:13:33
just would never do that. Nozick, I will.
1:13:35
What part of my life is unbalanced? As
1:13:37
like you feel like my house is unbalanced as
1:13:39
I do, You feel like my marriage. Is.
1:13:42
Unbalanced as eighty feel like my finances
1:13:44
are unbalanced as a what part of
1:13:46
my life to feel like is out
1:13:48
of. To set
1:13:50
up here you know I'm I'm not as good as
1:13:52
with words as you are and that was the and
1:13:54
I was like okay so the fact that you can
1:13:56
make a logical argument I'm not going to continue how
1:13:59
how that conversation once. But. The.
1:14:01
The teal the are of that was.
1:14:03
I really thought a lot about it
1:14:05
and. It. Came down to. I.
1:14:10
Wouldn't. Live your life, And.
1:14:13
My response to that is. Good.
1:14:16
Don't. It's
1:14:18
not your life, it's mine. Leave yours
1:14:20
the way you are in. I wouldn't
1:14:22
live your life either. intuit ends up
1:14:24
happening. They become these statements, these projections
1:14:26
that are not actually real. Now
1:14:29
on some level. Maybe.
1:14:31
They were saying that because there was envy in
1:14:33
that aspect of like wishing that was there in
1:14:35
that they were living that life. But in this
1:14:37
particular instance, I don't think it was. I think
1:14:39
the generally were trying to help. It was a
1:14:42
family member and he thought they were the I
1:14:44
was being misguided to. It isn't it? This is
1:14:46
an intervention. Let me hold the talking pillow Alex,
1:14:48
We've all come together as we care about you.
1:14:50
We really feel like we need to have a
1:14:53
conversation here. It is exactly what it was and
1:14:55
I got so angry. You.
1:14:58
Know angry and you.
1:15:00
Know you can hear Layla like having my back
1:15:03
like it's I'm I see the you can feel
1:15:05
the heat coming off of me as like I
1:15:07
go upstairs and ah how to how dare she
1:15:09
in either But he really just came down to
1:15:11
like her just saying. I
1:15:13
don't want to live your life and
1:15:15
I think the answer that question is
1:15:17
good. Don't. And I
1:15:20
think that has been one of the things that
1:15:22
is diffuse. So many of these like hateful comments
1:15:24
were people dehumanize your would ever admit you into
1:15:26
this ideal that they reject. It's like. You're.
1:15:28
Right! One of the things that are. I'd have a mentor
1:15:30
tommy say it's like when you're in an art with some
1:15:32
he's like like you're you're terrible person pov of of about
1:15:35
you to say you're right. And.
1:15:38
and then they have not the if they have nothing
1:15:40
to say and in just move on with your life
1:15:43
and so like. In. That way to
1:15:45
acceptance but of like. You or.
1:15:48
Your. Idea of who I
1:15:50
am that you hate so much. I.
1:15:52
Accepted. Argument With that. Even.
1:15:55
it be like we don't want to think what if i am
1:15:57
at i don't believe that but i can do that like many
1:15:59
conversations So I'm taking improv classes
1:16:01
at the moment because I'm doing my
1:16:04
first live shows in the UK and
1:16:06
Ireland. Oh, great. It's a live tour.
1:16:08
Congrats. Thank you. Yeah. Everything exists? No.
1:16:12
Solo. Stood on stage for
1:16:14
90 minutes. Comedy? No.
1:16:17
Just lessons. Yeah. Insights
1:16:20
and stuff. Probably some shit that I've learned today.
1:16:23
Anyway, we released it and every show sold out and
1:16:25
then got venue upgraded and then sold out again in
1:16:27
less than 45 minutes. Across
1:16:30
all of the dates, which was great, but then
1:16:32
scary because I now have to speak to like three
1:16:34
times as many people per night for additional nights on
1:16:36
top of what I thought. Anyway, I'm
1:16:39
doing improv. In improv, there
1:16:41
is one rule and the rule is don't
1:16:43
punk the game. So we're
1:16:46
doing some exercise where we need to make silly
1:16:48
noises as we pass this imaginary energy around and
1:16:50
I need to go like boing and send it
1:16:53
back and you need to go whoosh and pass
1:16:55
it on and all this sort of shit. The
1:16:58
one thing that you're not allowed to do is
1:17:00
not make one of the noises that's
1:17:02
allowed. Yeah. And I really
1:17:04
think about punking the game an awful lot and you
1:17:06
see it happen in podcasts. You see it happen on
1:17:09
TV. You see it happen and it can
1:17:11
be both destructive and
1:17:13
constructive, but it's always destructive to the people
1:17:15
that are trying to play the game and
1:17:18
it can sometimes be constructive to the person who
1:17:20
is punking it. So what you did is you
1:17:23
punk the game. That. We
1:17:25
are playing a game of tennis. We are hitting the ball back and
1:17:27
forth. Here I go. I hit the ball across the net and I,
1:17:32
where is it? Does it hit it back? Hit
1:17:34
it, hit it back to me. Like this is
1:17:36
the game that we're playing and you didn't move
1:17:38
reciprocally back and forth. You went orthogonally. You went
1:17:41
across on a different axis and you're like, I'm
1:17:43
not playing this anymore. This is a different game.
1:17:45
I'm not bothered. There's
1:17:49
not even words to describe what that
1:17:51
means. Now, the way that it can
1:17:53
be destructive is especially if
1:17:55
you're having, let's say,
1:17:57
a meaningful conversation, sometimes.
1:18:00
people who are uncomfortable with getting
1:18:02
into their emotions can use a variety of
1:18:05
different things. They can be skating, they can
1:18:07
be mocking, they can laugh, you know, because
1:18:09
they don't want to sit with the discomfort
1:18:11
of this particular part of the conversation. That's
1:18:13
punking the game in a way that I
1:18:15
think is destructive both externally and internally. That
1:18:17
was one that was destructive externally. It broke
1:18:20
the game, but it was constructive internally
1:18:22
and it is a way refusing
1:18:25
to play by the rules that somebody else has set
1:18:27
in a game that you didn't agree to is
1:18:30
the best prophylactic against
1:18:32
stepping into a situation that you do
1:18:34
not want. It's
1:18:36
one of the things that wealth
1:18:39
affords and
1:18:41
it's one of the things that freedom affords and freedom is
1:18:43
often downstream from wealth. Remember George, one of my really good
1:18:45
friends, been on the show like five times, George Mack, you'll
1:18:47
follow him on Twitter, he's fucking phenomenal. He was on
1:18:50
Fox and Friends yesterday talking about his cocaine phone
1:18:52
and his kale phone. What the fuck, what world
1:18:54
is this? I
1:18:56
remember before the
1:18:59
first time that I moved away to work, I've traveled a lot,
1:19:02
but it was always in between work. I never
1:19:04
traveled to work. COVID
1:19:06
happens, world gets shut down. Just
1:19:10
after Halloween, Boris tells all of
1:19:12
the UK, we're going
1:19:14
back into lockdown in three days time and all flights
1:19:16
are cancelled. So I messaged George and I was like,
1:19:20
I'm not doing this. Let's go
1:19:22
somewhere. He wanted to go to, I can't
1:19:26
even remember, some island that has 300,000 people on it.
1:19:28
And I was like, why don't we do Dubai?
1:19:32
It's a five hour flight. The weather's great.
1:19:34
I know people, it'll be fun. It's
1:19:37
not got 300,000 people on it. It'll be the Uber.
1:19:41
And I'll never fucking forget what he replied to
1:19:43
me with. I got up and
1:19:45
I paid 350 pounds for my
1:19:47
COVID fit to fly test before he was awake. But
1:19:49
he'd sent me a message the night before and this
1:19:52
is what compelled me to do it. He said, what's
1:19:54
the point in having fuck you freedom if you never
1:19:56
say fuck you? And
1:19:58
I was like, I was so
1:20:01
fired up reading that message and I was like,
1:20:03
yeah, why have I put all of this work in?
1:20:05
Why have I done all of these things if I don't
1:20:08
ever punk a game that I didn't agree to be a
1:20:10
part of? I think this
1:20:12
is really big if we go all the
1:20:14
way back to the earlier part of this podcast, when
1:20:16
you have the friends who are telling you,
1:20:19
oh, must be
1:20:21
nice, or you think
1:20:23
you're better than us, or, oh, so we can't drink
1:20:25
anymore. That's when you can be like, yeah. Then
1:20:31
what? Well, then we wouldn't be friends. You're not going to be friends
1:20:33
with them eventually, anyways, I promise you. Anyone who says
1:20:36
that you're not going to be friends with, if you want to
1:20:38
ultimately become the person you want to become, they're only going to
1:20:40
reject you harder and harder until eventually you have nothing to share
1:20:42
about. The only thing that you'll talk about is the past, which,
1:20:44
by the way, one of the great leading indicators of, at least
1:20:47
in my opinion, of a great way to
1:20:49
know when to cut a friend is when they only talk about your past. Punking
1:20:53
the game, and it's one of those really uncomfortable things
1:20:55
the first time you do it, but then you get
1:20:57
more and more comfortable with it because they're
1:20:59
like, I would never live your life.
1:21:01
And you're like, I know. This
1:21:07
relates to another one of yours. Don't trade
1:21:09
your self-respect for someone else's. It's easy to
1:21:11
lose theirs and hard to get yours back.
1:21:14
Yeah. But I would know.
1:21:17
But you would know. Yeah. Related
1:21:20
to the sort of cynicism thing that
1:21:23
we were talking about earlier, and I call it
1:21:25
the cynicism safety blanket that sour grapes at an
1:21:27
existential level. I
1:21:29
had Sean Purry on the show. You know, Sean,
1:21:31
you've been on my first million. He casually
1:21:36
dropped this. I don't think his episode is going
1:21:38
to be out before this goes, but
1:21:40
it's money. And he
1:21:42
said, the cynics get to be
1:21:44
right and the optimists get to be rich. And
1:21:48
From You, I Think the winner's mindset
1:21:50
sits in the uncomfortable place between two
1:21:53
surface level contradictions, extreme paranoia in the
1:21:55
present and unshakable faith in the future.
1:21:57
The Tension between the two makes them
1:21:59
all. Hard to beat today and
1:22:01
hard to outlast tomorrow. The cynics get to
1:22:03
be right and the optimists get to be
1:22:05
rich. One
1:22:08
of the biggest fallacies of the advice from people
1:22:10
who are in your current situation is that they
1:22:12
are right most of the time when you bring
1:22:15
a hope a girl home. Ninety.
1:22:18
Nine times out of one hundred when your
1:22:20
parents say she's not the girl I don't
1:22:22
like her, she won't last. They're right. Every
1:22:24
single time except for one time it matters the
1:22:26
end up marrying the person by like when they
1:22:29
say that you're not going to succeed like this
1:22:31
idea of yours is not going to last and
1:22:33
they're right every single time. except for the one
1:22:35
time that matters when you hit it big and
1:22:37
so it's one of those things where. They.
1:22:40
Are right more times but they are not
1:22:42
more right? So
1:22:46
good. Yeah, I am.
1:22:50
I wonder whether it's a function
1:22:52
of. All.
1:22:55
Of our opinions being permanently etched
1:22:57
in stone on social media that
1:22:59
it's very easy to seem smart.
1:23:01
Top heterodox idea if you go
1:23:03
against the mainstream. And
1:23:05
because. It's romantic. Oh,
1:23:08
I I I I had this alternative
1:23:10
in the I had this negativity. I'm
1:23:12
not. I'm not like one of the
1:23:15
sheep. I'll I'll I'll believe the things
1:23:17
are to be worse than they are.
1:23:19
And then if it turns out better,
1:23:21
guess what I say. Your expectations see
1:23:23
below. Congratulations. You can thank me later
1:23:26
like. That is. This
1:23:29
still down. British
1:23:31
culture at it's worst. Is
1:23:34
low Expectations. Low
1:23:37
expectations delivered through.
1:23:43
Satirical. Cynicism. The why you
1:23:45
doing that? That's lame spot for losers.
1:23:48
That's something that we wouldn't do. You
1:23:50
should stop doing the different things. Tall
1:23:52
Poppy, you're the one that gets cut
1:23:54
down. And. It's.
1:23:58
All. that it's Like all
1:24:00
it shows to me now is
1:24:04
a kind of groupthink Almost
1:24:07
like the worst kind of
1:24:11
Mental telepathy where everybody believes
1:24:13
the most unuseful thoughts that
1:24:15
everybody else has At
1:24:19
scale and all
1:24:21
it does is lower the bar that
1:24:23
you need to get up. I Think
1:24:27
it's that that you're right thing, which is
1:24:29
someone says that's lame That
1:24:32
sucks blah blah blah and you say like
1:24:34
you're right it does You
1:24:37
just keep punking the game like when anyone comes to
1:24:40
try like like they're they're playing a different game than
1:24:42
you So you shouldn't try and play by their rules
1:24:45
Because they're gonna try and get you to play their game
1:24:47
so that they can beat you at the game Which is
1:24:49
the status game of that little circle? But
1:24:51
you're playing a much wider game that includes more
1:24:53
players And so even though
1:24:55
locally you have these your your
1:24:58
incoming information that you're taking in is disproportionate
1:25:00
of your people that you're not actually playing
1:25:02
against and so it's basically
1:25:04
just noise it's irrelevant because if you look
1:25:07
on a long enough time horizon the likely that you're acting
1:25:09
like I mean again, I think about
1:25:11
death a lot but the
1:25:13
idea that When
1:25:16
I die People will be
1:25:18
dividing up my assets arguing over who gets what
1:25:21
there's gonna be a caterer at my funeral some
1:25:24
people won't make it because Something
1:25:27
came up and they got busy and
1:25:30
then the few people that are there are probably no one
1:25:32
that I have in my life Right now and
1:25:35
the fact that every single person that I have in my
1:25:37
life might not even make it to the funeral to speak
1:25:39
Over me while I'm dead. It's like why on earth would
1:25:41
I listen to them while I'm alive? Like
1:25:44
they can't even make it to probably the single
1:25:46
most important in you know Personal day of someone's
1:25:48
life is someone's funeral right the one time you
1:25:50
can pay your last respect and they don't even do
1:25:52
that And so it's like why would
1:25:54
I give any weight to what these people
1:25:56
are doing? When They're not even gonna be there
1:25:58
on the day that matters most. And six. Months later than
1:26:00
I remember who I wasn't Anybody who's had a
1:26:03
death in their families recently knows that in the
1:26:05
moment it's terrible for you and six months later,
1:26:07
life moves on. But the thing is is that
1:26:09
we just never pain ourselves as person dies. But
1:26:12
to me that incredibly free because then it's
1:26:14
like. If. Six months after I'm
1:26:16
dead, no one is going to say my name known
1:26:19
as can remember what I did. The.
1:26:21
known scan it then it doesn't matter what I do
1:26:23
today and I think that some people seat is really
1:26:25
a hopeless but I see it is very hopeful because
1:26:27
me with absolute freedom and we can do crazy shit
1:26:29
like why have fucking money if you can say fuck
1:26:31
you. Learning
1:26:34
as a spectator sport it comes from
1:26:36
during, which means if you're not doing
1:26:38
the stuff you consume every day, you're
1:26:40
not learning. You're. Just procrastinated. who
1:26:42
is is fun or it
1:26:44
some advice and terms. Learning.
1:26:50
Missy. This way. Intelligence.
1:26:55
Means. Rate of learning. Like.
1:26:57
That's what that's what Mm right Arbor operationalize
1:27:00
inwards. So Rate of Learnings intelligence to Denny
1:27:02
which means it's a rate not a not
1:27:04
an attribute As an aside which then means
1:27:06
you have to define learning. Learning means same
1:27:08
condition, new behavior. So if I pull up
1:27:11
a red card and then a sop you
1:27:13
and then I have a red card again
1:27:15
and then you doc. you've learnt if you
1:27:17
wake up every day and life shows you
1:27:19
a red card and then you don't doc
1:27:21
and you don't change the new, have learned
1:27:24
nothing. And so if you go to a
1:27:26
weekend and you go to a workshop. And
1:27:28
then the next day you go back
1:27:30
and you do the exact same activities
1:27:32
in the same conditions and you have
1:27:35
no new behavior. It means you learned
1:27:37
nothing. It also means you're stupid. Because
1:27:39
it means your rate of learning slow. So
1:27:42
if someone is intelligent I can show them
1:27:44
the red card and on the first go
1:27:46
they change their behavior and so. By.
1:27:48
defining intelligence that way and defining learning
1:27:51
that way it allowed me to start
1:27:53
thinking what i want to be smart
1:27:55
and this circumstance had this arc homelessness
1:27:58
and so the next house see this
1:28:00
circumstance, this red card, I'm going to change my
1:28:02
behavior. And so when we consume the information that
1:28:04
you have on this podcast or whatever it is,
1:28:06
there's probably a circumstance, whether it's a conversation that
1:28:08
you're supposed to have but you're aren't having, it's
1:28:10
a decision that you need to make but you're
1:28:12
putting off. That's the
1:28:14
red card. It comes up again. And
1:28:17
the question is whether you're gonna get slaps or you're gonna duck. And
1:28:20
that's whether you know whether you learned or not.
1:28:22
And every time you get shown the red card
1:28:24
and you do the same exact thing, you just
1:28:26
proved to yourself that your rate of learning is
1:28:29
slower. And so
1:28:31
for me, I wanna have that evidence that I learned
1:28:33
quickly. And for me, that's why people see me as
1:28:35
ruthless as you said, because I'm willing
1:28:37
to cut relationships. Because if I think that I'm
1:28:39
going to eventually cut the relationship, then
1:28:42
why would I not cut it today? Because I might
1:28:44
as well start enjoying the benefits of cutting that relationship
1:28:46
as soon as humanly possible. Alex
1:28:50
O'Mosie, ladies and gentlemen. Dude, I love you the bits.
1:28:52
I genuinely do. I think
1:28:55
the work that you put out, the messages that you put
1:28:57
out are very, very needed. And
1:29:00
yeah, I could do this for
1:29:02
days. We could run this back
1:29:05
literally for days and days and days. So this
1:29:08
is gonna go out after your big event. Where
1:29:10
should people go to support you to learn more about
1:29:13
the shit that you do? And what have you got
1:29:15
coming up? Well, I've got my next book, $100 Million
1:29:17
Leads. The first book is
1:29:19
$100 Million Offers with the interest of the question, what should
1:29:21
I sell? So a lot of people are like, what should
1:29:23
I sell? It tells you step by step everything you do,
1:29:25
like worksheets, I have a free course that goes with it.
1:29:27
You don't even have to opt in. It's on my site,
1:29:29
acquisition.com. You can just start watching it. I
1:29:32
think the Kindle for Offers is $1.99. Try
1:29:35
to make, I mean, our mission is to make real
1:29:37
business education accessible for everyone. $100
1:29:39
Million Leads has been six hours a day, 6 a.m.
1:29:42
to 12 p.m. every day for the
1:29:44
last two years. So the first six
1:29:46
hours of every day has been dedicated to writing that
1:29:48
book, which is why I have 19 drafts, four full
1:29:50
rewrites. There's 106 hand-drawn images
1:29:53
that went in the book that I put in there. And
1:29:56
I'm gonna be releasing it at this event that Chris and I were
1:29:58
talking about. So you're
1:30:00
gonna be listening to this after that event. So
1:30:02
you can go on Amazon, it'll be available there,
1:30:04
or you can look at acquisition.com because there'll be
1:30:07
a course and things that you can go through,
1:30:09
free materials. And that, the $100 million
1:30:12
leads answers the question, who do
1:30:14
I sell it to? And so you need leads. So
1:30:17
you're like, okay, great, I have the thing I'm gonna sell, how
1:30:20
do I go get people to find out about it? And so a lot of
1:30:22
the things that I have in the book are defining some of the terms that
1:30:24
people hear a lot, which is like, what
1:30:26
is a lead? What is advertising? Advertising is the process
1:30:28
of making known. And so if no one knows about your
1:30:30
stuff, no one can buy it. And so the reverse of
1:30:32
that is everyone knows about your stuff. And that book will
1:30:34
show you how to get everyone to know about your stuff.
1:30:36
And the reason I made the event as big as I
1:30:38
did was because I used every advertising method in the book
1:30:40
to advertise the book itself. So offers was an
1:30:42
example of a grand slam offer, how do you make something so
1:30:44
good, everyone feels stupid saying no, which is the sub headline of
1:30:46
the book. And so offers in
1:30:48
and of itself was a grand slam offer, which is what
1:30:51
I argue that everyone should have. It was a $2 book
1:30:53
that comes with a course, comes with worksheets, all these things.
1:30:55
And $100 leads, the way that I wanted
1:30:57
to exemplify and meta show demonstrate that the
1:31:00
contents of the book work today and will
1:31:02
work tomorrow and will work in 100 years
1:31:05
is because humans haven't changed. And so the process
1:31:07
of making known remains the same because our hardwiring
1:31:09
is the same. So you don't need to know
1:31:11
the Instagram hack because my first ever advertisement was
1:31:14
on Facebook and I don't do anything on Facebook
1:31:16
now. And it doesn't matter. And as soon as
1:31:18
YouTube and podcasts and all those things die, the
1:31:21
principles remain the same despite the platforms changing. And so
1:31:23
that is what I wrote each of these books because
1:31:25
I want them to be around in 100 years. And
1:31:28
that's why I spent so long on them. But
1:31:30
I'm very proud of the book and I think it's my best
1:31:32
work to date. Alex, I
1:31:35
appreciate you. Thank you, man. Thank you.
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