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Welcome to another special edition, 100 Million
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Dollar Leads, audiobook podcast
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collaboration, self-licking ice cream
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cone, me working with me, hand shaking
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myself, promoting
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this book for free on my podcast. And
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so, me being an affiliate
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of myself. Today we talk about affiliates
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and partners. It's going to be a heater episode. This
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is 35 minutes, one single chapter, and then we have
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a section conclusion, which you will
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definitely enjoy. Because if you've
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been watching this or listening to this a few weeks apart,
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then you'll want to have the recap so you can put it all together
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in your head into one simple framework. But today
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with affiliates, I'm going to be talking about how you
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pick the right affiliates, what kind of offer to make them, how
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to get them advertising, how to keep them advertising, and
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the many lessons I've learned along the way to doing over 75
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million dollars in sales, not
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spending a dollar of advertising on my own, but letting other
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people advertise for me. Hope you
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enjoy.
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Affiliates and partners. Nothing makes
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friends like money. December 1st, 2018.
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I had no idea how the Prestige Labs
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launch would go. I had no idea if our clients would like
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it. I had no idea if the technology we built would work.
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I had no idea if payouts would happen on time. I
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had no idea if our warehouse would mess up orders. But
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I did know over a year of preparation went into this launch.
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We put everything we had into creating a top-tier product. We
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spent over a million dollars custom building affiliate software
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and training. And we bought three million dollars
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of inventory for sales that may never happen.
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It took every business skill I had to make Prestige Labs
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real. And in just a few hours, we would
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roll it out to our gym owner affiliates. I
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felt like a kid on Christmas Eve. And if it didn't work, it
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wouldn't be for lack of effort.
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Author note.
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The Game podcast, episode 98, titled, I
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Remember.
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If you want to go back in time, you can hear young me
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talk about my thoughts and concerns the night before the launch.
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You can be right there with me. It's episode 98
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on my podcast, The Game, with Alex Ramosi. I titled
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it, I Remember. This is before I knew the success
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it would become. To find it, just go wherever
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you listen to podcasts and search Alex Ramosi. It'll
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come up.
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Launch day.
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I finished the two-hour presentation soaked in sweat.
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It's done.
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I sold the opportunity to sell my supplement
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line at their gyms. I would train the
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new affiliates to promote Prestige Labs at their gyms.
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So for this to work, they would have to go through the training and
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use it. But if they did, everyone would profit.
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I had no idea if it would work. Three weeks
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later, we made $150,000 in total sales. Meanwhile, $3
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million of the product sat in an air-conditioned warehouse.
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It didn't work.
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At this rate, including operating costs and affiliate
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paths, it would take five years to break
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even.
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Even if we could stick it out, our premium product
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would expire well before then.
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We were all but screwed. I felt miserable.
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It was terrible. Who am I to think we would sell
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all that stuff? I just wasted millions. How
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could I be so stupid? But
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on the fourth week, something wild happened.
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Boom! $100 grand on a Monday. Boom!
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$110,000 on a Tuesday. Boom! $92,000 on a Wednesday.
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We did over $450,000 in sales the fourth week alone. The
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trend continued.
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We averaged more than 300 orders per day across 400
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plus active affiliates. Orders just kept
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coming in.
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Check out the snapshot of our internal report
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below. It shows from left to right revenue
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by week. I couldn't believe the results. Sometimes
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I still can't for everyone listening.
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It was $429,383, $411, $404, $452 in terms of revenue per week through this launch.
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The best part is I didn't advertise or sell
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any of the products at all.
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No paid ads. No sales teams. Nothing.
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The affiliates did everything. And the affiliate machine
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I built still prints money this day. So
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if that sounds like something you're interested in, hang tight. Because
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I'm going to show you exactly how I built it. How affiliates
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work. An affiliate is a lead-getter.
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They are an independent business that tells their audience to buy your
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stuff.
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Affiliates seem like referrals on the outside, but are much
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different under the hood. First, they have their own
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business and do their own advertising. Second, they
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agree to offer your stuff to their engaged leads
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in exchange for money, free stuff, or both.
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Now, you get affiliates by advertising and then
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making them offers just like you would customers. But
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affiliates demand a unique type of offer. Instead
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of offering your product, you offer a fast, simple,
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and easy way to make
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commissions promoting it.
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And that can mean literally millions of engaged leads
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to your business. So this makes affiliates one of the highest
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leveraged lead getters out there. Why you want an affiliate
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army? Each affiliate you get adds
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another stream of leads and customers. So recruiting,
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activating, and then integrating with an army of affiliates
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causes crazy scaling fast. That's
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good. We want that. Compare these two scenarios.
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Scenario number one. You sell 10 customers
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per month worth $10,000 each.
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Your business caps at $100,000 per month.
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In 12 months you've made 1.2 million. Assuming
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no other advertising, your business plateaus. Low
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leverage. Scenario two. For the same
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effort you sell 10 affiliates per month. Each
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month those affiliates bring one of those $10,000 customers.
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Now every single month you add an extra $100,000
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in revenue. In 12 months you've made $7.8 million.
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And it grows every
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month thereafter. Same
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work, more money, high leverage.
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Let's use Allen, my software company I grew with affiliates
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to show how this works in the real world.
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Allen grew with three levels of affiliates.
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Agency super affiliates who brought agency leads.
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Agencies who brought local business leads. Local
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businesses who brought in and consumer leads. One
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super affiliate added 10 agencies per month. The 10
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agencies brought in a combined 50 or so
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local businesses per month. Those local businesses
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brought in a combined 2,500 leads per
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month.
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Allen worked those leads for about five bucks a
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pop. A cool $12,500 per
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month. But it didn't stop there.
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Each super affiliate brought in more agencies
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who brought in more local businesses, who brought
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in more leads every month after that.
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So every super affiliate we signed on brought in
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$12,500 at the first month, $25,000 the second month, $37,500 the third, and
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so on. With
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only a few agency super affiliates we
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scaled to $1.7 million per month within
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six months of launching.
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That's why you want an affiliate army. So let's
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build one.
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How to build an affiliate army in six steps.
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Affiliates are among the most advanced way to get leads. First
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you have to convince them to advertise someone else's stuff. Second
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you have to convince them to advertise your stuff.
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Third you have to keep them advertising to make them
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a long-term lead source.
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It seems like a lot and it is but I have
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good news.
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I built two companies with affiliates, Allen and
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Prestige Labs. Together, they've done more than $75 million
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in revenue from 5,000 affiliates.
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And the affiliate strategies I share work
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for me so they can work for you.
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I'll break down each step. Step one,
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find your ideal affiliates. Step two, make
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them an offer. Step three, qualify them. Step
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four, figure out how to pay them. Step five, get
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them advertising. Step six, keep them
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advertising.
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That's it. Let's dive in.
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Step one, find your ideal affiliate. The
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ideal affiliate has a business with a warm audience full
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of people like your customers. Start making a
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list of those businesses. If none come to mind,
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answer these questions about your best customers.
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What do they buy? Who
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provides that stuff? Where do they go? What
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businesses are in those surrounding areas?
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What do they like to do? Who provides those services?
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If direct to consumer, the employees of
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your consumers could also make great affiliates.
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What type of businesses do they work for? What
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kind of jobs do they have? In a nutshell, who's
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got my leads?
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For example, when I started Allen, agency
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owners were my ideal affiliate. So I made a list of 200
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products and services for agencies and the businesses
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that deliver them. After a little bit of work, I
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realized they fit pretty neatly into categories. Software's,
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products, equipment, services, groups they belong to,
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and events they attended. Every time I create a
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new affiliate hit list, I start with these categories.
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Note, if you find a business that falls into multiple
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categories, there's a high chance they've got a lot
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of good leads for you. Now that I know the businesses
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that had my leads, I knew exactly where to put my advertising
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efforts. It wasn't fancy, so don't overthink
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it. Action step. Make a sheet with
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each of the questions and categories. Search online
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to fill it in. If you struggle, call up your customers
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and ask them. End result. Create a lead
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list of your highest potential affiliates. Step
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two, make them an offer.
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We make the affiliate offer and advertise it the same
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way we would any other offer.
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We call out our audience, show our value elements, then
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call them to action. But affiliates will only
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sign up if we give them a strong reason. Thankfully,
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it's pretty simple. Since affiliates are businesses,
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or start businesses by signing up, you offer
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them a new way to make money.
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We'll start with the call out. Call out. for
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potential affiliates often include the affiliate
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business owners themselves, aka attention
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spa owners. The affiliates' customers,
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aka, do you work with busy professionals who spend
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all day in meetings?
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Results the affiliate business's promise, aka,
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to the heroes who heal the stress of others.
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Products and services the affiliates deliver.
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If you sell lotions or scented oils, this
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is for you. To our own customers, do
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you know anyone who owns a spa? Now that
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we can grab a potential affiliate's attention, let's
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make it worth their while. There's
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an unlimited number of ways to show value, but
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all money-making offers follow a similar
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structure. That's good news. We don't need
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to reinvent the wheel. Most affiliate money-making
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offers show value like this.
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Make more money from your current customers and
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get more leads than your current offer. Dream outcome.
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With a high chance of working since your customers
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already want the product, perceive likelihood of achievement.
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Without needing to build, deliver, or provide
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customer support for the product itself. Effort and
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sacrifice so you can start selling it tomorrow.
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Time delay. Action step. Explore
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the different value elements and fill in the blanks. I
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won't go deeper on this since we've covered already. You
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simply need to make affiliates the customer you're advertising
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to. Now that we've got the potential affiliates interested
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in our offer, let's qualify them.
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Step 3. Qualify them.
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Potential affiliates become actual affiliates
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when they understand and agree to your terms. And
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just like customers, we want to get them their first win as
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fast as possible.
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So we set up our terms to force them to win as fast
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as possible.
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I do that by getting them to invest. I
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prefer they invest their time, their money, and in the product
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itself. Any can work. But 9 times
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out of 10, if they pay, they'll pay attention. Here
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are the two ways I get my affiliates invested and winning.
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Make them a customer and make them an expert. Let's
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dive into each. Way number 1. Make
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them a customer. Make them buy and preferably
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use the product to keep affiliate status. This
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is the lowest barrier investment that's worked for me. I
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found the more money an affiliate invests in your product, the more money
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they make. This should make sense. If they don't
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believe in your stuff enough to buy it, they probably shouldn't sell it.
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You can tell them I said so.
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Pro tip. Bulk purchases.
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If you need to make more money per affiliate, you can acquire them
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to buy it in bulk. This was huge for a prestige-like
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account. affiliate success. Once they bought
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a big package up front, they started following through and
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winning more. The bigger investment also made
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them and us more money. If you have
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physical products, then try bulk purchases. If
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your company has a line of products like Prestige Labs
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does, then toy around with different big bundles.
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Here's how you phrase the offer. So you
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want anything extra or you just want the minimum order.
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By presenting a minimum purchase, they will at
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least buy that. And more often than you
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think, they'll buy more than the minimum. Bada
10:25
boom.
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Way number two, make them an expert. I
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make them pay for the onboarding and training that certifies
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them as a product expert. If you have them buy a
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product to become an affiliate, you can have them use that
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as a credit toward certification. As in, the
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certification comes with the products they
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bought. Now, aside from actually
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making the affiliate useful, certifying them does
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two things. First, it covers the cost of advertising.
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Second, it means I can afford proper onboarding and training
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of every single affiliate.
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How much do I charge? I
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recommend 10 to 20% of what the average affiliate
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makes in the first 12 months. So if your average
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affiliate makes $40,000 per year selling your stuff,
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then charge $4,000 to $8,000 to onboard and trade them.
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Too low and you won't get them invested. Too high
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and you won't get enough affiliates. I found 10 to 20% maximizes
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the number of people who become active affiliates.
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If you're just getting started and have physical products, then use
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the bulk purchasing strategy from the Pro tip. Otherwise,
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you can use the strategy for more reach out chapter and
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raise the minimum investment every five signups until you hit
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the sweet spot. Action step. Make
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your affiliates, customers, experts or both, which
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is my favorite way. If you don't get enough
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people to start, lower the commitment. If you don't get enough
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people to follow through, raise it. Step
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four, figure out what to pay them. The
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first biggest problem to solve with affiliates is getting them bought
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in. But the second biggest problem is how to keep
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them bought in. And no matter how you slice it, keeping
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your affiliates bought in depends on how you reward them
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for advertising your stuff. I prefer to reward
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people that do things I like with money and free stuff,
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especially if they make me money first. So let's
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talk about that. When I figure out ways to pay
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affiliates, I look at two basic things. One,
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what they get paid for. Two, how much they get paid. Number
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one, what they get paid for. Before I do
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any affiliate payout money math, I ask myself
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a simple question.
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What exactly
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exactly do I want the affiliate to do. Once
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I figured that out, that is what I pay them for.
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Then, more often than not, how much they
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get paid and how often they get paid nearly
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solve themselves. I pay affiliates for two
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basic things, new customers and repeat
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customers. Over time, if you track your metrics
12:15
better, you can pay them for steps before someone becomes
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a customer. Like for lead matics downloaded,
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appointment set, or anything else you know reliably turns
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into sales for you.
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Number two,
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how much they get paid.
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I suggest paying affiliates based on your maximum
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allowable cost to acquire a customer. For example, choosing
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your maximum allowable CAC. Let's say
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we sell a single use product for $200 and
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it costs $40 to fulfill. This
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gives us $160 to pay the affiliate and
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run the business. If we want an LGP
12:42
to CAC ratio of three to one, then three parts
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go to the business, $120, and one part, $40,
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goes to the affiliate. This means we
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will pay up to $40 for an affiliate to get a new customer.
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But here's where things get interesting. I used
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to give away the farm, the whole CAC. I suppose
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I still do, but I got pickier about who
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I give it to. Not all affiliates are created equal.
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So I suggest having a three tier payout structure.
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Using the example above with a $40 maximum
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allowable CAC, a three tier payout structure
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might look something like this.
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Tier one, 25% CAC equals $10 payout.
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Anyone
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who agrees to my initial terms would qualify.
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Example, they sign up and buy products
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or certification.
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Tier two, 50% CAC equals $20
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payout
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once they activate.
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Example, actually finishing the certification
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they bought, doing a specific number of posts and outreach, doing a launch,
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et cetera.
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This gives a nice reward, twice the pay,
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for activating.
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Tier three, 100% of CAC equals a $40 payout.
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They qualify for this once they sustain a
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certain level of performance. Example, they
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maintain five customers per month on subscription.
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This tiered method also has a hidden and
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very profitable side effect. The average
13:52
payout is much less than your maximum allowable
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CAC.
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This means if we leave the maximum payouts for top
13:58
affiliates, then we get to keep the.
13:59
leftover profit from the others. We can
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use the leftover money to run huge contests,
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advertise to get more affiliates, incentivize rising
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stars, et cetera. Or I suppose we
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can just plain pocket it. For example, if 20%
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of sales come from tier one, 20% from tier two and 60% from
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tier three, your
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blended payout is $30 instead of your
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maximum allowable CAC of $40. This means
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your LTGP to CAC ratio just went from three
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to one to four to one. And often
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cutting marketing costs by 33% can
14:26
translate into a 10 to 20% increase
14:29
in net profit at the end of the year. A massive
14:32
jump.
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Pro tip, pay with product
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if possible.
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Sell three, get it free. Everyone
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likes free stuff, often more than
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what it would cost them to get it. Rewarding
14:42
performance with product is a cheap and effective way
14:44
to keep them winning. They value it at retail,
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but it only costs you your cost, a nice
14:49
arbitrage of value. Set sales tiers
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and bonus your affiliate with product or credit toward the
14:54
retail cost. At lower tiers, you
14:56
can even compensate exclusively with free
14:58
stuff. For example, if your affiliate
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sends you tons of massage clients, it's totally
15:02
acceptable to reward your affiliates with free massages.
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At low volume, a massage
15:07
is often worth more to them than sending them
15:09
a check for $30, your cost. But
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as affiliates send you more customers, they'll usually
15:14
opt for more money. After all, cashing in 100 massages
15:16
becomes unrealistic. At Prestige
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Labs, offered anyone who sold more
15:21
than three packages per month, a free $200
15:23
bundle of their choosing. This also made
15:25
every affiliate a sponsored athlete. They
15:27
got free products for life, as long as they kept three
15:30
clients per month buying. I called
15:32
it,
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sell three to get it free.
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Action step,
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figure out what you wanna pay affiliates for so you can
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plan out how much to pay them, with what and
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how often.
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Step five, get them advertising, launch.
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Like referrers, how much value affiliates get
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from you determines how much they advertise your stuff. So
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treat them like customers. Give them something good,
15:50
fast, and nothing does that for affiliates like
15:53
big launches and lots of cash. Here's how launches work. Affiliates
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advertise your lead magnet or core offer to their
15:58
audience before they can buy it. They
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post, they do warm reach-outs, they
16:03
run paid ads, they may even do cold
16:05
outreach. They do as much advertising
16:07
as they can until the day of the launch. When the
16:09
product is available, they sell it to all the engaged leads
16:11
they assembled. Some sell one-to-one,
16:14
some pitch the whole group, and others simply
16:16
make the product available. So if you're going to do
16:18
launches to activate affiliates, which you should, you
16:21
may as well do them right. I used the whispertea
16:23
shop method. I can't remember where I first heard
16:25
this, but the name stuck. Just launch.
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Hey, I hope you're enjoying the book chapter that you're listening
16:32
to right now of $100 Million Leads. I
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took a long time putting it together for you. And
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so my only ask is that you just take a quick second
16:39
and leave a review for the book on
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Amazon. It's the number one way that people find
16:44
books. And this is a way
16:46
of getting more people into our world. And so our mission at
16:48
acquisition.com is to make real business education
16:51
accessible to everyone and I need
16:53
your help. And so if you could do that, just that
16:56
one small action, and it has a trade
16:58
for the two years that I took putting this book together for you, it
17:01
would mean the world to me. So thank you. Before
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we get launching, remember, good launches have
17:07
the work done ahead of time.
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So do all the work for them. Then they
17:11
can plug and play. Let's break down each launch
17:13
phase. And I'll give an example of my
17:15
book launch to drive each point home. Note,
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this is how you launch anything, not just affiliates.
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I put it in the affiliate section because I haven't found a better
17:22
way to activate affiliates than launches.
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Whisper. Think call outs. Like an
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ad, the key to the whisper phase is curiosity.
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Keep the product itself mysterious and a hint
17:32
at how big of a deal it is.
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Keep whispers short.
17:35
And bonus points if you show behind the scenes of making
17:37
your product. If you have something in the works,
17:39
you can start the whisper phase a few years out. The
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further out you start whispering, the bigger deal it becomes
17:44
to your audience. We start this early because
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the longer something appears to take, the more an
17:48
audience will value it. For example, all other
17:50
things being equal, an audience will value a product
17:52
that took 10 years to make more than one that took 10 days.
17:55
So show your work.
17:56
Remember, curiosity comes from wanting
17:58
to know what happens next. So embed questions
18:01
about the product in their minds. We need to
18:03
tell them about something they want to know more about.
18:05
And then say,
18:06
not yet.
18:07
For example, during the whisper phase of my book
18:09
launch, I posted content, reached out to friends, emailed
18:12
my list, told potential affiliates about major
18:14
updates to the book. I showed what draft I was on,
18:16
I took pictures behind the scenes of me printing out drafts, I
18:19
showed the many versions of the frameworks I drew, I shared
18:21
videos of myself editing the book clearly in the early
18:23
morning and late at night, etc. All that
18:25
made people who want to get leads get curious
18:27
and pay attention.
18:28
Action step.
18:29
Start whispering every 4-6 weeks until
18:32
you get 60 days out. Then, whisper
18:34
every 2-3 weeks until you get 30 days out.
18:37
Then, start teasing.
18:39
Tease.
18:40
Think elements of value. It's
18:43
time to start satisfying all the curiosity
18:45
you created during the whisper phase.
18:46
Reveal your product, make the day to the launch public,
18:49
and start showing the elements of value.
18:51
Use the what-who-when framework
18:53
from the Paydads chapter. For example,
18:55
during my book launch, the tease phase, I
18:58
was more specific and revealed more hard information
19:00
about the book. I started advertising how the book
19:02
satisfied the dream of limitless leads, of
19:05
doing less work, and getting it done faster
19:07
than they could imagine. I also showed dozens of examples
19:09
using the book to its potential.
19:11
Action step.
19:12
Start teasing once per week until 14 days out.
19:15
Then, tease twice per week until 3 days
19:17
out. 3 days out is time to shout
19:19
from the rooftops.
19:22
Shout. Think. Call to action. Give
19:24
specific actions for the audience to take when the
19:26
product launches. Now, you start pounding
19:29
the audience with bonuses, scarcity, urgency, and guarantees
19:31
around being the first ones. You shout to
19:33
get as many people exposed to your offer as you can. For
19:36
example, during my book launch, the shout
19:38
phase, I gave specific calls to action. Short,
19:40
sweet, clear reminders to register for the book launch. I
19:43
reminded everyone of the exclusive bonuses only
19:45
for people who bought during the launch.
19:47
Action step.
19:48
Shout at least twice a day, starting 3
19:51
days out. On the day of, start
19:53
shouting every few hours until 2 hours
19:55
out. Then, shout every 30 minutes
19:58
until you launch the product. Pro tip. Tip,
20:00
movie releases.
20:01
The best real world example of Whisper T
20:03
shout is movie releases. They do five
20:05
second trailers a year out, then 30
20:07
second trailers, 90 days out, then longer
20:10
trailers as the date approaches. They drive curiosity,
20:12
then interest, then action.
20:14
Action step,
20:15
get your affiliates to launch.
20:17
Set them up with everything they need to Whisper
20:19
T shout right. They do the advertising,
20:22
you get the engaged leads, everyone gets paid.
20:24
Step six,
20:25
keep them advertising.
20:27
The strategy we use to start them advertising differs
20:29
from the one that we use to keep them advertising. In
20:31
an ideal world, you sell an affiliate once and
20:33
they send engaged leads for life. Integration
20:36
gets us there. I've got three ways
20:38
you can integrate your product into their offer. I
20:40
order these from easiest to hardest. First,
20:43
you can get them to give away your lead magnet with every
20:45
purchase of their stuff. Second, you can get
20:47
them to sell your lead magnet separately to their
20:49
audience. Third, you can get them to directly
20:51
sell your core offer. Number
20:54
one,
20:55
they give away your lead magnet for free, which makes
20:57
their core offer more valuable for no extra cost,
20:59
then you upsell your core offer and every
21:02
offer thereafter.
21:03
Number one,
21:04
affiliates give your lead magnet away
21:07
when somebody buys their stuff. The idea
21:09
here is for your lead magnet to make the
21:11
affiliates offer more valuable. This
21:13
allows them to charge more for it and get
21:15
more leads than they could without it. Remember,
21:18
the best lead magnets give away a free
21:20
trial or sample of your thing, reveal
21:23
a problem, or offer a single step
21:25
of a multi-step solution. Here
21:28
are examples of each,
21:29
samples and trials.
21:30
Say I sell massages and recruit the personal
21:33
training studio next door as an affiliate. Now,
21:36
everyone who buys personal training from them gets a free massage
21:38
from me. The personal training studio now has
21:40
a stronger offer they can charge more for, and we
21:42
get more massage leads, everybody wins.
21:45
Reveal a problem.
21:46
Instead of giving a free massage, we
21:49
offer a free or discounted posture assessment
21:51
with every training package they sell. Assessments
21:54
and discounts add less value to the affiliates offer,
21:56
but some people will still do it. And to be clear,
21:59
after assessing the customer, you make them an offer
22:01
to solve the problem you revealed. One
22:03
step and a multi-step process. Say
22:06
you have a three-part treatment plan, massage,
22:08
stretching, and adjustments. People get
22:10
enough value from one step, they fear missing out
22:12
on the rest of the steps. So the more they think the other
22:14
steps will help them solve their larger problem, the more
22:16
likely they are to buy them.
22:18
What I did, we'd get gym affiliates to give
22:20
away a free nutrition consult to every new member.
22:23
Then we'd upsell our products at the consult. They
22:26
can market that they have nutrition consults included
22:28
to get more leads, and they could charge more
22:30
for the added value. And we would get the
22:32
opportunity to sell those leads, everybody
22:35
won.
22:35
Pro tip,
22:37
white label lead magnets.
22:38
One of my favorite strategies is to let them use the
22:40
lead magnets I've already made for my audience for
22:43
theirs. Just make sure your affiliates agree
22:45
with how you give value and understand your call
22:47
to action. At most, a few tweaks in
22:49
copy will make your lead magnet work for them.
22:52
For example, for gyms, I made white labeled
22:54
no logo, meal plans, grocery
22:56
lists, food prep instructions, et cetera. Gave
22:59
them to the gyms to use the lead magnets for their
23:01
customers. All they had to do was slap their
23:03
logo on it, and boom, their audience got to benefit
23:05
from all my work instantly. And
23:07
we both got more leads.
23:09
Two,
23:11
they sell their core offer, then they
23:13
upsell your lead magnet. Then you
23:16
upsell your core offer and every offer thereafter.
23:19
Affiliates sell your lead magnet. Basically,
23:22
the affiliate can sell anything of yours that turns
23:25
their customers into your customers. It could be a book,
23:27
an event, a service, a software, a sample product,
23:29
et cetera. Also, giving affiliates all
23:31
the cash from selling a lead magnet that you fulfill
23:33
becomes all profit and no work for them and
23:35
attract your proposition for any business. Your
23:38
money comes by selling your main
23:40
thing for more than it costs you to deliver your lead
23:42
magnet. And if you do it this way, you
23:44
don't need to split any money with them on your core
23:47
offer. Another win-win. Example,
23:49
they sell each of those things we gave away for
23:52
free in the step above. They sell your massage
23:54
at a discounted price. They sell your assessment,
23:56
which you could do one-on-one or in a group format like a
23:58
workshop. They sell... sell part one of
24:00
your multi-step solution.
24:02
What I did.
24:04
The gyms would sell a nutrition console with us
24:06
and keep the money. They'd
24:07
maybe charge $99 or $199 to sell an hour of our time. If
24:11
we were clever, we'd let them keep all the money. If
24:14
we do, they'll send even more leads. Then
24:17
we'd upsell our products during the console.
24:19
Three.
24:20
They sell their core offer, which is
24:22
the same as your core offer. You
24:25
upsell more stuff from there. Then
24:27
you split the money. Either you split the upfront
24:29
cash, all the cash for a certain period of time,
24:32
or all the cash forever. I prefer to pay
24:34
forever, so my affiliates stay motivated to keep my customer
24:36
forever. And I never cap payouts. Number
24:40
three. Affiliates sell your core offer. An
24:42
affiliate sells your core offer directly to their customers
24:44
and adds another source of income without extra work. For
24:47
some affiliates, this is their entire source of income.
24:50
Many companies offer this structure as either
24:53
a new business opportunity or a bolt-on
24:55
to the affiliate's existing business. Either
24:57
way, anything you sell, they can
24:59
sell. When you do it this way, the affiliate
25:01
will get a higher percentage of your lifetime gross profit, but
25:04
you won't have to do anything but deliver. Example.
25:07
They sell your entire massage package. They
25:09
sell your entire program or services. They
25:11
bundle their services with your paid services
25:14
and charge an even higher price.
25:16
What I did. We taught gyms to
25:18
hold nutrition consultations with white label products.
25:20
We then taught them to upsell our supplements right
25:23
to their members and we split the money. All
25:25
three strategies work. They're just different. After
25:27
testing, we continue to do strategy one
25:30
twice per year as a big event and strategy three on
25:32
an ongoing basis. That being said, many
25:34
similar businesses in our portfolio use strategy
25:37
two. I'm just sharing what worked for us.
25:39
Bottom line.
25:40
Integration is the long-term strategy for
25:42
using affiliates to get enduring lead flow. Treat
25:44
affiliates like customers. Make your offer make
25:47
sense for their business. Make it so good, they'd
25:49
feel stupid saying no.
25:50
Action step.
25:51
Integrate with your affiliates by choosing whether you want
25:53
them to give away your lead magnet, to sell your
25:55
lead magnet, or to sell your core offer directly.
25:58
Those are the six steps to recruiting. an affiliate army.
26:01
Now that we covered that, let me give you three real-life
26:04
case studies to drive this home.
26:06
Three case studies you can model.
26:07
Service business case study number one, national
26:10
tax preparation services. My
26:12
friend's $50 million business prepares
26:14
LLCs, bank caps, and articles of incorporation.
26:17
He focuses on people starting businesses for the first
26:19
time, but he doesn't try to compete with LegalZoom.
26:22
Instead, he built it partnering with people who train
26:24
new entrepreneurs. His strategy is simple, help
26:26
those people sell more of their stuff by also selling
26:29
his stuff. So he offers every affiliate's
26:31
customer a free LLC setup. Remember
26:33
learning about the high cost lead magnet from section
26:35
two? This is one of those.
26:37
Launch. He does a big blast off seminar to
26:40
his affiliate's audience to kick things off. People
26:42
happily take him up on his free LLC offer. That's
26:44
his lead magnet.
26:45
Integrate.
26:46
Once affiliates see the success of this launch, they integrate
26:48
his lead magnet into their core offer. Then my
26:51
friend's team gets on the phone with the customers
26:53
his affiliates bring him for free. Here's
26:55
how he makes his money.
26:56
He sells them what they'll need next.
26:58
The services they'll need to start their business, boatkeeping,
27:01
tax prep, et cetera. He hasn't spent a
27:03
dollar on paid ads. His true advertising
27:05
costs are two things. One, delivering
27:08
his free lead magnet, the LLC setup, and
27:10
two, paying a percentage of every first
27:13
sale to the affiliates that sent them. That's
27:15
it. And everybody wins. Physical
27:17
products case study number two, Prestige Labs,
27:20
my supplement company. We sell gym
27:22
owners at gym launch and train them how to advertise and sell
27:24
their gym memberships. Prestige Labs
27:26
has a line of supplements for active adults. This
27:29
makes gym launch a perfect affiliate for Prestige
27:31
Labs. It's a community of gym owners that also
27:33
have active adult customers. So when gym
27:35
launch sells a new gym owner, they introduce the gym owners
27:37
to Prestige Labs. Then Prestige Labs
27:40
team follows the launch that integrate strategy above.
27:42
We really do this.
27:44
Launch.
27:44
We give the gym owners advertising materials so they can
27:47
re-engage their current and former customers. We focus
27:49
on warm outreach and posting content for a free 28 day
27:51
challenge. When they come in for the free challenge, the
27:53
gym owner sells them supplements to use with the program.
27:56
The gym owner gets more customers, they make money, we
27:58
make money, everyone wins.
28:00
Integrate.
28:01
After the launch, we teach them to sell supplements to every
28:03
new gym member. So when new clients buy
28:05
a membership package, the gym owner sets up a nutrition orientation.
28:08
At the nutrition orientation, the gym owner sells them $50 to $1000
28:11
of supplements. So if a gym signs up 20
28:13
clients per month and gets 70% of them to buy
28:15
supplements, we get 14 new customers per month
28:18
per gym. It doesn't sound like much, but when you multiply 4,000
28:20
gyms times 14 new sales per month
28:22
times $200 average order, it equals a lot
28:24
of money every month. Local Business
28:26
Case Study 3. Chiropractors
28:29
Chiropractors want new patients, and a portfolio company of ours teaches
28:31
them to use an affiliate strategy to get them. Their
28:33
model is simple. Go to high volume businesses
28:35
that have people that are in need of adjustments.
28:37
A gym fits the bill nicely. Here's what
28:39
they do.
28:40
Launch. They get the gym owner to promote a 3
28:43
hour workshop where they show correct exercises
28:45
and posture to get more from their workouts. The
28:47
gym owner promotes the workshop for free or sells
28:49
the workshop for $29 to $99 a person. The
28:52
chiropractor splits the money with the gym owner. Hint.
28:55
If you give the affiliate, the gym owner in this case, 100% of the
28:57
money, they'll want to do it more. So
29:00
if a gym owner gets 30 people to show up for $99, they make $2,970 a profit for
29:02
zero work
29:05
besides a few emails and posts. At the workshop,
29:08
the chiropractor soft pitches their services and gets
29:10
a bucket of new patients.
29:11
Easy peasy, lemon squeezy. Integrate.
29:14
Long term, the chiropractor convinces the gym owner
29:16
to include one to two adjustments with every new membership
29:18
the gym signs up.
29:20
This increases the value of the gym membership
29:22
compared to the guy down the street. And it shows
29:24
the gym prioritizes its members' health and safety
29:26
a big concern for beginners.
29:28
And win. Now, every new gym
29:30
member becomes a lead for the chiropractor to follow
29:33
up with. They repeat this process with 30 gyms
29:35
and get more patients than they can handle.
29:37
Pro tip.
29:38
Employees are leads too. Companies
29:40
that hire a lot of people make great affiliates. This
29:43
is huge for directing consumer businesses and
29:45
wildly underused. Example. Every
29:48
new hire at a company gets a free massage in their new employee
29:50
packet. Or you can give free massages
29:52
to their employees at lunch. It's free, it's
29:55
easy, and lots of companies want to provide more value to their
29:57
teams. They get free value, you get
29:59
free leads. And since they're probably not in the same business
30:01
as you, there's no risk of you, quote,
30:03
competing with theirs. So employers can be
30:05
among the easiest affiliates to integrate with.
30:08
Cost and returns.
30:09
Affiliates can't work for my business, the loser said.
30:12
I have to make affiliates work for my business, the winner
30:14
said.
30:15
Be a winner.
30:16
When calculating returns with other methods, we compared
30:19
lifetime gross profit, LTGP, with cost
30:21
to acquire customer, CAC. So we spend
30:23
money to get customers and the customers in a profitable
30:25
business give us more money back. Affiliates
30:27
work differently. We spend money to get affiliates,
30:30
sure. We don't really make much back from affiliates
30:32
themselves. Instead, the money we spend
30:34
to get an affiliate comes back from the customers they
30:36
bring us. So to calculate returns,
30:38
we compare how much it costs us to get an affiliate with the gross
30:41
profit of all the customers they send to our business.
30:43
Example. Let's say we own a widget company
30:46
that grows with affiliates.
30:47
It costs us $4,000 in advertising
30:50
to get an affiliate. So CAC equals 4,000.
30:52
Our average affiliate sells $10,000 in
30:54
widgets per month and stays for 12 months. 10,000 per
30:57
month times 12 months equals 120,000 in
31:00
total sales. The
31:02
widgets have a 75% gross margin. In
31:04
other words, they cost 25% of retail price to make.
31:07
So 120,000 in total sales times 25% of total cost
31:09
of goods equals $30,000 total cost of goods. Now
31:15
we take the $120,000 total sales minus $30,000 total cost of goods equals $90,000
31:21
in gross profit from all the customers the affiliate brings.
31:24
We pay the affiliate 40% of gross profit. So $90,000
31:27
of gross profit times 40% payout equals $36,000 to the affiliate as payment.
31:34
Here's the gross profit we have left over after cost
31:36
of goods and payouts. $120,000 total
31:38
minus $30,000 cost of goods minus $36,000 payout equals 54,000 left over. So
31:45
let's find out our affiliate LTGP
31:47
to CAC ratio.
31:49
$54,000 of gross profit left divided by $4,000 to get an affiliate. 12.5 to 1,
31:53
not too shabby.
31:56
If you recall from earlier, we need at least 3
31:59
to 1 to have a decent business. Like the example,
32:01
we want the ratio to be even higher than that, 5 to 1, 10 to 1
32:03
plus. Now, if we had these
32:05
numbers, we'd just do more. But if your actual
32:08
LTGP to CAC is less than 3, here
32:10
are 3 ways to improve it.
32:11
Number 1. Lower CAC. We get affiliates
32:13
for less by improving our ads offer and sales
32:16
process.
32:16
2. Increase LTGP and Decrease
32:19
CAC. Get more to activate
32:21
by creating a launch process.
32:23
3. Increase LTGP. We
32:25
make them worth more by improving our integration
32:27
process long-term. With affiliates,
32:30
you have at least 2 layers of customers.
32:32
Your customers and the people who get you customers.
32:35
And if you've got super affiliates, you add a third. The
32:37
people who get you the people who get you customers. This
32:40
adds complexity, but if you can manage it, it's
32:42
worth it. Now that you understand how to use affiliates
32:44
to advertise and how to make them more profitable,
32:47
let's bring it all home.
32:48
Conclusion.
32:49
Like referrals, affiliates aren't an advertising
32:51
method you can do. They're people who advertise your
32:54
stuff to benefit you both. You do
32:56
the core 4 to get them, and if you want them to love
32:58
you, then you treat them like customers. Because
33:00
in a lot of the ways, they are. And if you
33:02
deliver more value to them than it costs to get them, especially
33:05
hitting costs, they'll get you more leads than you can
33:07
handle. And like we learned earlier, there
33:09
are 2 ways to create a compounding business. You
33:11
can find more people that never stop buying your
33:13
stuff, or you can find more people who
33:15
never stop selling it for you.
33:17
Referrals are the former, affiliates are the latter.
33:19
In theory,
33:20
once you build an affiliate army, you never need
33:22
to advertise again. They keep getting you leads month
33:25
after month. The main reason, it makes sense
33:27
for them. The way you do business, your leadership,
33:29
the value of your product all comes into play. You
33:31
are only as good as the goodwill you have with your
33:33
affiliate partners.
33:34
Arrange it right, and you should both be better off
33:36
from the relationship. And they
33:38
should be able to spend more dual-car customers through a more
33:41
compelling offer, higher profits, or both. In
33:43
return, you get more engaged leads. So
33:45
why doesn't everyone do this? They don't know it's
33:47
possible.
33:48
They don't know how, or they don't want
33:50
to. Simple as that. Hopefully,
33:52
we solved all 3 of those issues at once. Remember,
33:55
advertising always works, it's only a matter of efficiency.
33:58
So once you start, keep going.
33:59
until it works.
34:01
Action step, advertise your affiliate offer until
34:03
you get 10 to 20 affiliates.
34:05
Get results with those affiliates and use their feedback
34:07
to work the kinks out of your offer, terms,
34:09
launches, and integration strategy. Then,
34:12
scale like crazy by turning their results into your
34:14
first patch of affiliate lead magnets. Free
34:17
gift, build your affiliate army bonus. As
34:19
you can see, I'm a big fan of building affiliate programs
34:21
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34:24
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34:35
Section four, conclusion. Get lead
34:37
getters.
34:38
The last skill you ever need to learn is how to
34:40
get other people to do everything you need for you.
34:43
We do the core four to get engaged leads.
34:45
Form outreach, post content, cold outreach,
34:47
and paid ads. And we use them to get
34:49
two types of engaged leads. The ones that become
34:51
customers or the ones we turn into lead getters.
34:55
Lead getters come in four flavors. Referrers,
34:57
employees, agencies, and affiliates. Each
34:59
have key strengths.
35:01
Customer referrals have the biggest potential for low-cost
35:03
exponential growth.
35:04
Employees have your direct influence and run your
35:06
business on your behalf. Agencies
35:09
teach skills you keep forever
35:11
and can transfer to your team. Affiliates,
35:13
once you get them going, can operate entirely on
35:16
their own. You can either do the advertising
35:18
or other people can. And there are more, quote,
35:20
other people than there are of you. You get more leads
35:23
for the work you do when you have help.
35:24
So if you want to get a ton of leads, this
35:26
is the way.
35:28
Maybe your head is efficiently spinning. Now
35:30
that you understand these advertising methods, you see leads
35:32
everywhere you look. We have so many ways to grow.
35:35
And you'd be right, but you don't know which
35:37
one to focus on. Any or all of
35:39
these lead methods can underpin a successful
35:41
lead-getting strategy. And I put them in the order
35:43
of what happens naturally. If you start
35:45
on your own, you tend to get your first referrals before
35:48
you start building a big team. And
35:50
when you start building a big team, employees, you'll
35:52
probably start looking for professionals to help. And
35:55
only when a business owner has a handle on managing people
35:57
inside of their business do they need to get the go-ahead. to
36:00
try and manage people outside of their business, affiliates.
36:03
In any case, you have to forget the idea that everything
36:05
is going to work out the first time. If
36:07
you think you're going to become a millionaire the first year you go
36:09
out on your own, you're probably wrong. It's very unlikely.
36:12
And an obsession with getting rich quick will
36:15
likely ensure it never happens. People try
36:17
shortcuts for a decade until they realize they
36:19
should have picked a strategy and stuck with it for a decade. If
36:21
you do that, success is inevitable. Once
36:24
you find something that works for you, stick with
36:26
what you pick. Those are the best words
36:28
of encouragement I can offer. The
36:30
longer you play the game, the better you will get, and the more success
36:32
you will have. Just don't quit or
36:35
switch methods after seeing a few losses. It's
36:37
normal to lose in the beginning. In fact,
36:40
I expect to crack a new lead source in three to six
36:42
months, and this isn't my first rodeo.
36:44
So if your expectations are faster than that, do
36:46
you think your expectations are reasonable?
36:48
We covered a lot here. This section was
36:50
how you scale. You get other people to
36:53
help you. They are the missing link. Each
36:55
has their own strategy and best practices. Use
36:57
what applies to you now.
36:59
This leads us to section five,
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get started. I wanna put everything together
37:03
for you in a nice bow so you know exactly what to
37:05
do next. Together, we'll eliminate
37:07
leads as the bottleneck in your business forever.
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Onwards.
37:12
That concludes the second to last episode of
37:14
the $100 Million Leads podcast collab.
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And in the spirit of affiliates and partners, I'm
37:19
gonna ask you to be an affiliate of mine, and
37:22
not in the way that you might expect. So you
37:24
might not know this, but many people charge for audiobooks.
37:26
That's a common trait. That's how most people do it. And they don't
37:28
even see that as like a brand ask. It's like, of course
37:31
you're gonna charge for an audiobook. But
37:33
I chose not to do that, despite spending probably
37:35
more time on this book than most people spend on their books, when
37:37
they just have ghostwriters pump them out so they can make 20 bucks on
37:39
everybody.
37:41
But here is my ask.
37:42
If you can be an affiliate of mine and send this
37:45
chapter or any chapters, or just the
37:47
first chapter of this book to somebody else, it
37:49
would mean the world to me, and maybe to them.
37:52
And something that you may not know that I found out
37:55
way too late in life is that when you introduce someone
37:57
to something valuable, they associate you with
37:59
the value. that you gave them. And so you can gain
38:02
relational capital by introducing new
38:04
people to valuable things. And so I hope that
38:06
I can be that channel for you. And
38:09
next we will have our very last episode that
38:11
will conclude the $100 million leads book. I'm
38:14
not even going to tell you what's in it. It's just going to be good because
38:16
who gets 10 chapters in and doesn't
38:18
finish the 11th. So I'll see you in the next one.
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This has been $100 million leads
38:24
written by Alex Ramosi, read by
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Alex Ramosi. Copyright 2023
38:29
acquisition.com audio production copyright 2023
38:33
acquisition.com media.
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