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We like to welcome everyone to another episode

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against the Chronicles podcast. And I had

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my boy, my homeboy,

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my god big Jay in the house. What's

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been going on with bro oh Man between

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his medical ship and my daughter coming

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home? And you know, my

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family is getting

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closer, man, everything

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everything has been going good. But this health thing

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is killing me. I got this pinch

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nerve and he's

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taking me down. It's taking

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me down. It's working with my right arm. And

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and I got to get the surgery. So

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I finally got to take care of it. Uh.

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They didn't want to do my m R I because I still

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got these bullets in my back right, so

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they did it without the contrast and all

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that ship, which I had it done

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before. So on

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the tenth I get it took care of. I'm

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just gonna go on and let him do the surgery and

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and deal with the pain, right

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man, that's all you can do, man, ship,

1:03

I got a lot of ship I gotta do. I can't

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shoot down now, so you

1:08

know, enjoying my daughter like a

1:10

mouth. You

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know, Um, everything is

1:14

good, bunny, Everything is good. That's

1:17

what's up right there, man. That's a blessing daughter. Home

1:19

Man, Lionel's mom is at home. So that's

1:22

all good man. It's gonna free you up. It's gonna free

1:24

you up a whole lone. I've been getting out, I've

1:26

been going gambling, I've been doing everything, leaving

1:29

them at the ouge. I'm going, you know.

1:32

But we got a guy, man that don't never stay at home.

1:34

I'll hear it with us today, Man, internationally

1:38

renowned gentlemen of leisure?

1:42

Is that what they call it? Man, super flywer reincarnating

1:46

all around the world, really global? Roadie,

1:49

Mac, what's happening with you? Broy down

1:51

and around, active and still activated? Jack?

1:54

Yeah, Man, So let me ask you this

1:56

man, and we gonna call you a gentleman

1:58

of leisure for all intensive

2:01

purposes. That's the truth of the matter. Jack,

2:03

Yeah. Are there any other titles? Rose

2:06

Royth wrote it? Tokyo Roady

2:08

and Mac you know, and it goes

2:10

on and on man Mac Man, Yeah,

2:14

Man, Let me ask you this, man, when did you

2:16

really jump off the porch with everything? Oh?

2:19

But fifteen

2:21

sixteen got some exposure to

2:23

it. By sixteen

2:25

seventeen, I had noted the you know,

2:27

moving group and stay up under the

2:29

O D that was down and around and

2:32

putting on their wings. Man, And I was observed

2:35

sucking it up and hey,

2:37

man, he I am the day, the master of

2:39

the game, Master of the game.

2:41

Man. Now you know I'm

2:44

mixed you through one of our good friends. Man, shout

2:46

up to my guy for at Goody TV. Yeah.

2:51

When I was you know, when I got finished doing my interview

2:53

with him, he had told me, he said, man, you gotta

2:55

talk to Roady mac man. He was telling

2:58

me. I said me, nobody like that for real, man,

3:00

for real, right right right. And so when he took when

3:02

I mixed you, I said, okay, yeah, it's

3:04

really going down. I guess you came down

3:07

by the hotel and you saw that road Roy sitting

3:09

outside, man, and it was own. Man.

3:11

It was like, oh, this is who we're talking about. Yeah.

3:13

I was on that waiting for my part to make you

3:15

know, I have to see it was in the cash on it because

3:18

ain't nothing loss about me around its lost And you

3:21

did? I

3:23

feel you? Man. So when you say, O t

3:26

me out of town, right ot out of town,

3:28

O s out the country man bigger

3:31

than OT. Now with me, let's

3:33

talk about nationally first, you know, just the internal

3:35

things so you pretty much

3:37

traveled state state or do you have designated

3:40

places that you go? Well, mag events

3:42

is allowed me to move around, man, super

3:44

Bowl, Manta Worlds here and find the foe

3:46

and that's fine. The Contucky Derby that

3:48

allows me to move around like a gypsy.

3:51

Man. Okay, so you're pretty

3:53

much falling all the major events. Now made events

3:55

gonna have you on some major activity. Man,

3:58

all the stars coming out for the major fun

4:00

man show time

4:02

at the Lakers game. Pat Riley sitting't

4:05

uh pat Riley uh?

4:09

Jack Nicholason there at courtside.

4:11

Man, you want to be rounding folks man back

4:14

man, coach, fifty yard line

4:17

man, the bleachers, man wherever

4:19

I can slip d t award

4:21

man in the orchestra area and

4:24

cameraman on let up all me when you see

4:26

me. No famous players and

4:28

here amongst old your favorite

4:30

stars. But no, we need to know who these

4:32

famous players is managed

4:35

to see more Don Juan Rodeo mac

4:37

Man. Yeah, we have been here represent for the church.

4:40

I done everywhere. Yeah yeah,

4:42

yeah, you know he opponent,

4:44

I mean he gave us a platform in the game. Man,

4:47

So is at different levels to this

4:50

super levels, many levels

4:52

like playing pac Man. You know, you started

4:54

with that one down and then you

4:56

get a new board. You get a new board, and

5:00

then all of a sudden, you

5:02

uh, you crap out. Then you put your quarterback

5:05

in, start over, try to

5:07

beat the last score your head. So

5:09

that would be the same scenario

5:12

with life. You go

5:14

to jail, come back home bound, stout all

5:16

over again. You didn't come on with nothing,

5:19

but when you left, you had all

5:21

your toys, the bits

5:24

gone, the money gone, the jury going

5:26

and up. So what you gotta do

5:29

to get back down? You gotta

5:31

get back down. Now you move and lift

5:33

further than what you had the last

5:36

time, and damn or it was meant for me to have

5:38

that for that length of time. Now

5:40

you come over with the new toys and

5:43

it's better than the last. So we said,

5:45

okay, I accept that load of it. Now let

5:47

me ask you, now, what year was it when you first

5:49

started, like when you first started doing your thing, seventy

5:53

nine, seventy nine, so it

5:55

was significantly different back then.

5:57

Oh man, it was straight the streets man

6:00

three manually manuably

6:03

had to come out the house for all transaction.

6:06

Is that right? Now? How did you recruit

6:09

these potential people or did they come

6:11

to you? Oh, they come to me. They see me in trapping

6:14

young fly kid, moving and grooving and trapping,

6:17

and first one spoke is

6:19

the first one broke behaviors what I had. And

6:22

then you want to be with me. You got to hand over

6:24

the feet because I got some game that

6:26

I execute for myself. And I know if I

6:28

can pay myself, maybe

6:30

you got to pay me just as well. You

6:35

got to pay me because I can't have you

6:38

around me just doing nothing. And

6:41

I got twenty six letters in the alphabetic game

6:43

and I can hand over to you and send you somewhere

6:45

to go get it. Are

6:48

you down? I'm down with Let's go baby,

6:51

stay to the top, okay now?

6:53

Um me and you was talking a little bit earlier

6:56

before you know it show started, and you told

6:59

me that you prefer to keep your stable kind

7:01

of low, like you don't want a whole bunch of

7:04

I didn't need the eight and the nine

7:07

and the team. I

7:09

need the one of the two. It's going

7:11

to take care of some grand theft

7:13

activity. Man, that's

7:15

gonna make me look like I got teen a fifteen

7:18

one or two. That's like the top of the top

7:21

of the top of the pick. They

7:23

did the bettest, the beddest ones. If

7:26

you got to they got to be worth something,

7:29

you feel me. They got to be your study, your

7:31

your third ones. Like you say, they got

7:33

to be the ones that get

7:36

out there and get it. Now. I know a few

7:38

pamps are players, you know, in

7:40

my days, um kitty

7:43

read, I was chilling you about you

7:45

know, yeah, I

7:47

mean I see those guys

7:49

making money. But when you see it

7:51

today, you see these little young

7:54

boys out there trying to do it. And

7:56

you know, these little catch is getting charged

7:59

up and yin yang't getting caught doing

8:02

what they're doing, you know what I'm saying,

8:04

because they messing with and bringing their

8:06

young girls, underage

8:08

females. So the game is

8:10

totally different from well back in the

8:12

day, they were still doing the same thing,

8:15

messing with young girls at the same

8:17

time. The law wasn't being executed

8:19

at that time. But a lot exposed

8:22

have been put on the game now, so

8:24

now we're gonna target. It's a

8:26

new generation. They trying to execute

8:28

that behavior and

8:30

were knocked y'all at the ballpark like Reddie

8:33

Jackson at the World Series, and

8:36

they're going so they bring that brain

8:38

structure back to the to

8:40

the real ship. Yeah. Okay, So

8:43

now the understanding of the game is, Man,

8:46

if you really want to get in be a part

8:48

of their life, you got to be ready to

8:51

accept their consequences because

8:53

now the act has been committed, and

8:57

if you want to break bad on any given moment,

8:59

they can do a Bill Cognitt move and

9:02

pull it back old history and say boom,

9:05

the act has been committed. Mm

9:07

hmm. You know mentioning

9:10

that something earlier, Man, we talked about the

9:12

underage underage kids.

9:14

Um,

9:17

I feel really strongly about that,

9:20

you know, Um,

9:22

and I believe if you find out a

9:24

girl, have you ever like ran across the girl that

9:26

was just you knew it was too young and kind of

9:29

like you know, you pick a fish about the water to catch a small

9:31

fish and you just throw it back? Have

9:33

you ever done that? Negative? Because

9:36

the activity that I was participating in,

9:39

you had to be up of age, You

9:42

had to be bright at the mind. It

9:45

wasn't just the flushed I was moving and

9:47

selling, man, I was moving the brain

9:51

where you can literally go in the F D

9:53

I C Bank in America get

9:56

tens and twenty thousands of dollars

10:00

now that's cold game tech. Okay,

10:02

So from what I understand what you're saying,

10:05

it's more like a record. To you. It ain't just about to

10:07

be no man, no

10:10

jack. It's a it's

10:13

about the character with

10:15

the program, with the blueprint.

10:18

If you don't have a blueprint, like Roadie

10:20

mcgaine, then you got to subject

10:22

yourself to that behavior.

10:26

But I don't have to only subject myself

10:28

to that behavior because I got Roadie

10:30

mcgaine letters

10:33

than alphabet. I got a game very

10:36

letter. Okay, that

10:38

whole pick hands out the garbage. I

10:41

got a place where he can get over a million

10:44

cans. That might get her

10:46

ten thousand dollars. Because

10:50

all kinds of stuff, just like what

10:53

makes a woman, what makes a

10:55

woman choose to take in that activity,

11:00

Well, some of them is in that lifestyle

11:02

already, coming from broken

11:04

home. You just happen to be in traffic and

11:06

saw that action and you got down on it. And

11:09

that's how y'all connected. Right

11:12

to just go straight. You're

11:14

hunting and you're going to some school house

11:16

young uh, grammar school,

11:20

trying to convince a little girl, here go a lollipop

11:22

or freeze pop. You're even saying come

11:25

on, get with me. This

11:27

is a little kid. You often heard a lollipop

11:29

and a freeze pop. A kid is not

11:31

gonna turn that down, right.

11:36

Their parents can't even get that to him. So, yeah,

11:38

she's gonna read for it. You're

11:40

dead wrong home. They're

11:43

gonna talk to their grown brawl over there, man and

11:45

see if you can tell everybody getting you some road

11:48

ross and rod lexus. Mm

11:50

hmm, that's

11:52

what I'm saying, you know. But what they did do

11:54

with the game, they pretty

11:56

much what they called white slavery. Yeah,

12:00

slavery, uh,

12:02

transporting you're human human

12:05

traffica now it's human traffic traffic.

12:09

They got serious. I know a couple of

12:11

cash in jails right now for and

12:16

she the cold thing about it is, they'll

12:18

be having these young girls, right and when

12:20

the young girl get caught, she

12:23

give up her daddy, She give

12:25

up the whole information because

12:27

what the act has been committed, right,

12:30

she knows a lot. So they

12:32

can squeeze blood

12:35

out of her and they let her go. They're

12:37

gonna you, you ain't gonna ever see

12:40

your baby again. They're gonna you

12:42

you ain't gonna see your mom again. Now

12:45

the crock of eye tears has coming

12:47

out of eyes, and

12:50

they don't want not They want the pimp, they

12:53

want the mail, they want the individual

12:55

that's executing these behavior.

13:00

So these guys got to be mindful that. See,

13:02

I'm so season to day, I don't even want that

13:04

kind of action. Hm. No, let's talk

13:06

about this man. We know

13:08

you pretty much said that

13:11

you follow all the major events to major going

13:14

up the coach you're there. Yeah, so,

13:17

but it's a different level to you. You also

13:19

hit you also here.

13:21

You also traveled out the country. Yeah, foreign countries

13:24

and stepped my game up. Man. You know, because I ran

13:26

around America for like thirty five

13:28

forty years and I'm like

13:30

a dog chasing out this tail and the

13:33

man ain't going nowhere. And I I built the old

13:35

hole that I'm going down instead

13:38

of up. So now

13:40

I stretched my mom I stopped flying

13:42

worldwide. Oh

13:45

now I'm seeing some different elements of the

13:47

game. Now it's a beautiful

13:49

look. What countries

13:51

have you hit so far? Where I started in

13:54

England, Londoneen,

13:56

I got my passport. I had my first one

13:59

in two was but ten years went by so

14:01

fast. I was procrastinating on my movement

14:05

and then when I looked up. Man. It was ten years

14:08

later, I said, Man, I got the SOB workers passport

14:10

and we got to renew my

14:13

first trip of the

14:15

United States. But prior to that,

14:18

I went to Hawaii in

14:21

nineteen eighty three for New Year's

14:23

even So that was the

14:25

first time I ever went out of USA

14:28

to Hawaii. But then after I did

14:30

London, I come back in I

14:33

go to Amsterdam.

14:35

Now my mind is abroadened,

14:38

now my knowledge is and expanding. It's

14:40

no longer thinking local game

14:44

no more. It's really international,

14:46

dealing with interposed and all this dealing

14:48

with custom. So

14:50

now you got to be extra swift, but

14:54

you won't see America no more home. Yeah,

14:57

let me ask you this. Now, I

15:00

assumed that it's a little

15:02

bit different over there. How does

15:04

one proceed to knocker broad on

15:07

the forum land, Well,

15:11

you being you, and you're

15:13

being around the action again, the

15:15

same behavior you did I did in America.

15:18

I'm doing them for him for and soil

15:22

stand shop moving, grooving hind

15:24

and buying wavings smil and he

15:26

hau and we are

15:29

liked in foreign country, so we got

15:31

action. Like Janet Jackson, I

15:33

was gonna say that as soon as they see

15:35

him and see how you walk and how you talk. They

15:37

on him and if

15:39

he's smooth like that, love

15:42

him. I'm telling you how

15:44

it is. Man. They love that. I go in Thailand.

15:47

I can't even go in my pocket in Thailand

15:50

Bangkok, but Tire, I can't go in my

15:52

pocket. They

15:54

just give, give,

15:56

give. I said, Oh my god, this is what the

15:58

South used to be like in America.

16:01

You can't go on the South nine find this behavior,

16:04

Sunny, what you want, Sunny you wanted before?

16:07

Yes, the generosity

16:10

in the South is still in Asia.

16:14

Yeah, but when they come over here they change

16:16

their behavior. But if if you step

16:19

on they saw you, Yeah, you're

16:21

the king that you really is? Me? All

16:23

right? Now, what happens to them girls? Man?

16:25

What happens to the women? Because I'm wondering, assume

16:28

you stay over there a certain amount of time to get

16:31

days over there, because they you know, I'm on

16:33

a visa, so I'm only allowed to stay a certain

16:36

times. I'm in the process now trying to get

16:38

dual citizenship, so I ain't got to come back

16:40

to America unless I want to. They

16:42

got soldier boys over there that

16:45

inspired me. I ain't

16:47

got to never go to America again in life,

16:49

I'm getting government money coming through the bank

16:52

direct deposit. America

16:55

got to never see me again. I

16:57

said, oh, that's the behave that won't.

16:59

Man, I want to go back to America

17:01

because I want to go, not

17:03

because my visa is up in thirty sixty

17:06

nine. So

17:12

wins you over there and you leave. Those

17:15

women just become free agents again. Well

17:18

they got to be free because I ain't there. But

17:21

when you I'm still in contact

17:23

with him when I get to America. Okay,

17:25

I got you. So they still they still.

17:27

The media is strong that what's

17:30

happened, and all the

17:32

international phones on they're

17:34

strong. So you

17:36

pretty much, man, you got the whole thing laid

17:39

out to where they still peeling

17:42

yours off. You know, the feed for

17:44

the money so short over there ain't gonna make it.

17:48

It's short. They got to come to America

17:50

to really read it. That loan money. So

17:53

the little money that they get over there is

17:55

extremely So. Now when we talk

17:57

about finances over there, what's

17:59

extremely short in the average, Like, oh my

18:01

god, if they get a thousand

18:03

dollar about they only got ninety dollars,

18:08

thousand dollars, No, they got thirty

18:10

dollars.

18:13

So if I took that dolland dollar money and brought

18:15

it back to America, he only

18:18

gave me thirty dollars. Or the exchange break,

18:20

you only gave me thirty. But I'm pretty

18:23

sure when you was in England, because

18:25

the exchange rate with the with the euro,

18:27

with the pound, the

18:30

British pound and the dollar

18:33

at one time, man, the ease stuff was almost

18:35

like I remember back in two thousand five, it

18:37

was almost like like a three to one or something

18:39

like that. Man, England do not

18:41

respect the American dollar, not

18:44

at all. I learned that firsthand.

18:47

Now I do know America is

18:49

the daughter of England, because

18:54

England is aware that that crew that

18:56

came out of England and created this American

18:58

dollar came from that

19:01

stop. So

19:04

when you're trying to bring that dollar into

19:06

England, we're only given you,

19:10

uh, seven dollars. You're

19:14

gonna give you seven dollars for that hundred dollar bill

19:17

because our high denomination is

19:19

fifty pounds, So

19:21

I'm giving you fifty seven pounds

19:24

when you're catching that hundred dollars. Pretty

19:27

much, I'm giving you seven

19:29

dollars. Wait a minute, that

19:32

show you they don't spec America. Now,

19:35

did you ever have any problems with the local

19:37

um, with the local regentiment of leisure out

19:39

there? No, Man, they took to me like

19:42

Dr water man, because I mean, it ain't what you

19:44

do is how you do it. Yeah,

19:47

I didn't step on Nobody told I can't

19:49

do breathe to should up me. Huh

19:51

huh. We liked all

19:53

around the world and so you wasn't

19:56

going out there with mentality is just knocking another

19:58

players, um nothing other No,

20:01

it ain't. It ain't in my program.

20:04

The brown got to knock me. Man, I'm

20:07

doing my job, showing up to come up

20:09

pretty much choosing. So

20:12

choosing is the right way to go, the proper

20:14

way to go. That means

20:17

I don't want to see you eat. To

20:19

me, if you got a

20:21

brown, I don't wanna care if she is doing, but

20:25

you don't. I don't want to see you either

20:27

if I try to mass on you for

20:30

your brown. Right. So,

20:33

and on the flip side,

20:36

that can happen to me, what's

20:39

happened, man, You don't wanta see me eat? Man? You know I'm down

20:41

on the brown. Man. Man,

20:44

I can do more with the brown than you can't. Man.

20:46

Whatever I'm doing with it's my business.

20:49

Mm hm. So that means you don't want to see

20:51

me eat, you don't want to see me happy, you don't

20:53

want to see me with the brown. Now,

20:56

let me ask you this man a

20:59

lot of moves he's on rappers they

21:02

painted pimp game was just this real,

21:04

just immaculate thing that's going

21:06

on, like it's just all good all the time. It's

21:08

a lot of dangerous components to it. It's

21:11

very much. If you look at the social media

21:13

today, they

21:15

got one rapper that just one to see.

21:17

I don't know the conduct that they're doing. I don't even

21:20

see him in the streets. I don't even know what it did.

21:22

But next time look up, they make headline that they

21:24

was harviing some brols.

21:27

God, I'm locked in out. I don't know what they

21:29

was at. Opposed back

21:31

in the days, and we knew

21:33

what everybody was in and what everybody was doing.

21:36

We knew all the players that were then traffic

21:39

being in corners from

21:41

New York to California, Highwire to Miami

21:43

Chicago. We knew the information.

21:47

So for the cast to be running into

21:49

the problem they running today, I

21:52

tell him I'm the truth for the youth man, I'm gonna

21:54

tell you how to stay out the pen attention. I'm

21:56

gonna sell you how the duck child support. I'm

21:59

gonna sell you how to be the moving group around

22:01

the world. I

22:05

heard that man in the streets they got speed

22:07

bumps to slow you down when

22:09

you're coming through them, rather than don't because

22:12

some residents is just straight blank and

22:14

the car and go straight through with

22:17

them. Speed bumps are there for a reason

22:20

to slow you down. Now

22:22

you got tented thing. Well,

22:24

that's kind of hard because with the

22:28

r Kelly Bill Cosby controversy

22:31

and ship, it's hard to do

22:33

what you're doing because anytime

22:35

you get caught up with a woman, especially

22:37

beating up on one, you're going

22:39

to you're going to prison. Especially now Ja

22:42

Simpson his incident enhances

22:45

us to go to jail. Yeah, his

22:48

incident before

22:50

we used to screaming holiday the browl in front

22:52

of the police. He's gonna say you go, you're when you're gonna

22:56

you raise your voice down, you're going in.

22:59

You going in any type And they almost

23:02

had two nine days because people are sold the

23:04

teachers and so in the litigation

23:06

that if they don't if a police see two

23:08

people argument, if a police If I'm a police

23:10

officer and I see a couple over the argument

23:13

and a dude kind of acting aggressive towards it, and

23:15

I say, it ain't nothing. It's just a couple of have an argument.

23:17

I go by my business and he messed

23:19

around and slapped the broad he had hit

23:21

the ground, and she did. They go

23:23

to the police department. They go say, y'all saw

23:25

him that woman, and

23:28

y'all didn't do nothing. Came out to it. Answer and

23:30

you let it happen and then you leave. Now you gotta

23:32

come back again. Now we had

23:34

a call the first time, so

23:37

they got to protect themselves in that. So

23:40

what happened with me? When see

23:42

I was wise enough to see all the chess mood

23:45

that was being played. When

23:47

I think that I've been a

23:49

couple of times, I've been to jail. That's catching jail

23:51

for domestic violence. Just

23:55

called the chick call. This is your old

23:57

lady. She called the police and they coming

23:59

you rested. I

24:02

peep game. I

24:04

know of a couple of ticks who here I used to cut

24:07

off. That was mine just for saying stupid

24:09

ship, doing stupid ship. So

24:12

I had to recondition my whole pattering

24:16

because I cannot see going down on the

24:18

domestic violence. Man. But

24:20

at the end of the day, how do you keep control?

24:23

Because if you know you ain't gonna put your hands

24:25

on her, how do you keep control? I

24:28

keep control by hand picking who

24:30

really needs to be around me. And

24:33

then in the process of you got to keep

24:35

nick picking it. I'm

24:38

by myself down. I don't notice. I

24:41

get money just as well, Babe. I keep telling

24:43

you that you need me like American

24:45

needs a president. I

24:48

don't need it. But for one thing, the birth

24:50

kids for me, that's it, that's all. There's

24:54

other activities that extra brawls

24:57

around that got him going to do this, go and do that.

24:59

But they started liking me. Then

25:03

that's when I started seeing you on mission. I don't have to

25:05

force you to nothing. I

25:07

got Roadie MC game for real letters

25:11

in alphabets of it. How

25:14

many children do you have? I got

25:16

three kids, three kids, one

25:19

boy, two girls. Okay, so you

25:21

got daughters, got one daughter, super

25:24

stop and the new yok by

25:26

your girls? Yeah,

25:28

one of my girls, I was

25:31

one of one. Three different

25:33

girls, three different girls, three different girls.

25:36

I'm talking about the ones that work for you. See

25:40

the things about my girl, like I said, they

25:42

wasn't flatbackers. See

25:44

I did never get into dating and following

25:48

flatbackers by flatbacker m

25:51

man was major crooks for real,

25:54

Patty Hurst. That explained, uh,

25:57

flatbackers, but flat backers girl

25:59

that turned they have sex for money.

26:03

I had him, but I didn't follow

26:05

no kids by another. They

26:10

wasn't there for the purpose of me having sex with them

26:12

too. You know, if you ain't gonna hand over the money

26:14

and keep turning the date dinners, I don't

26:16

need to sex you. You're doing enough sex industry

26:19

that's enough to make you run off. Didn't run over

26:22

because that don't that don't fit my crop

26:24

trivity for me to be secon you to keep

26:26

you. Remember, I got game

26:28

just as well, baby, When

26:30

you're gonna really macmone hit the concrete

26:33

just as well. Lanes and Dane

26:35

do play really mcgamee? Remember that

26:39

did they do? Not? In one that was

26:42

standing on his feet and there

26:44

was a different element that

26:47

it was different, So it

26:49

felt all right to engage

26:51

with them because sex was not dirty

26:53

coming from

26:54

the clean

26:58

man she is. Have you ever felt bad at

27:01

for doing what you do? Okay?

27:05

Became a lifestyle for me, and I

27:07

was able to

27:10

carve it in a vision, in a

27:12

way where it suits

27:14

me, not nobody else. All

27:19

my getting busted, going to jail and

27:21

all that, that got narrowed down till

27:23

it's a zero now. But

27:26

in the early part, it was

27:28

two times a year. It was gonna lay on the

27:31

bed, it was come on. Now

27:33

it's narrowed down to zero. Knocking

27:36

George, driving roll Ross and riding

27:38

up down Sunset and Hollywood Boulevard, taking

27:41

trips out of foreign country. Because

27:44

I mastered the game. It

27:47

ain't what you do is how you do it. I

27:50

ain't trying to get in nobody business, nobody's

27:53

activity, but Roady Max's

27:55

activity. I

27:58

heard that. Man. No, you

28:01

mentioned that you got a daughter, right, and

28:04

she knows about your lifestyle evidently, right

28:07

If she chose one day and said,

28:09

Daddy, I want to come into the game. Whether

28:12

there's a madame, it ain't gonna be necessary nothing else,

28:14

mother be as a madam because you got plenty. You got

28:16

female pimps too, and

28:18

we can talk about that in a minute, But you got female

28:20

pimps too. She did that, it would be your advice to her

28:22

or would you tell her not to give involved what

28:24

I would tell her mean you for the truth, And

28:28

I would give her the guideline that

28:30

her mother went by. And

28:32

her mother was throng just as well. Cats

28:37

had to have bank. They won't even saying you

28:39

know, hello to her. But

28:43

I know she wasn't taking that lead. But

28:46

she knew how to go get some money. So

28:48

I would show her that guyline because

28:51

I have a guideline to show her. And

28:54

when you ain't got no guideline, then you just

28:57

gotta go free stack. I think it's it's

29:00

different. I wouldn't have or

29:02

allowing my daughter to follow my lifestyle,

29:05

you see what I'm saying, because it

29:07

might be different for her. You know what

29:09

I'm saying, she's not like me. I'm

29:11

not allowing her to follow it. But she's getting

29:13

in his activity because in this generation,

29:16

they're doing things totally different than

29:18

my era. The only thing I

29:20

can do is give her the guidelines

29:23

than her mother had to be

29:25

able to show. You got to be stand up.

29:27

You gotta be down for your people if

29:31

you're gonna be about it, because you can't keep you

29:33

know, dipping and dabbing, jumpanship, you

29:35

know, choose the through in. Your

29:37

mother wouldn't like that when

29:40

she had a man. She had a man and

29:45

she took care of business. So

29:48

you know with the daughter being you know where

29:50

she had now and she's a good mother to

29:52

take care of her kids. You got three grandkids

29:54

from me. I'm

29:57

happy how she turned out. So

29:59

it's cool. So pretty much with this

30:01

um. What

30:04

does one do when

30:06

they are a gentimate of leisure? Like? Do you

30:09

just hang around the other gentleman leisure? Do

30:11

you just are? Are you consumed by the game?

30:13

Just seven? Well? Burglar fellas

30:15

do flock together? Man? You know, I

30:17

got some elderlies that really you

30:19

know, still is eighties in

30:22

the eighties and have

30:24

overcome from

30:27

the bottom of it. Feel

30:29

more slam ray Bird the grand

30:31

Master. This is don Magic

30:34

wand see mode. They

30:37

shaped the game with fashion

30:43

that one can still be able to participate

30:46

and stay shop on the bitch and

30:50

you want to come in too, then a man,

30:52

you got action at it. But we don't have to go

30:55

look for hell no more. Y'all know our name, Our

30:57

name is out there. No

30:59

I have you ever had a square

31:01

woman like I'm talking about a woman that work in the bank

31:04

or from the grocery store working.

31:07

I'm saying, have you ever had one of them? Try

31:10

negative? They didn't fit

31:12

my program. I'm talking about. Man,

31:14

when I was sixteen eighteen,

31:17

running wild, running strong, daily

31:20

in the streets, criminal

31:24

activity daily square

31:27

A woman couldn't do that, so

31:30

she couldn't work be professional

31:33

on the day. And it was talking

31:36

to early eighties. It

31:38

was fast. It was faster than now real

31:40

catching early eighties. Wasn't even trying to hear nothing

31:43

to squad. She had to say, Man, we just came out

31:45

of Nixon era where plenty

31:47

of money was in the streets. Jimmy

31:49

Carter followed later. By

31:53

time it got the bush, the cocaine error

31:55

hit the street, we

31:58

got three generations of the streets being and filled

32:00

with money. And man, now,

32:03

how did um, how

32:05

did the dope game in eighties, you know,

32:07

crack epidemic and all that. How

32:09

did that affect your your your county

32:11

back then? Oh well it was it

32:14

broke down a whole bunch of shots a

32:16

star players. Man, it broke

32:18

a whole bunthy now cats

32:21

that was really you know, on their

32:23

game they hit

32:25

that motherfucker pipe. It

32:27

was all she wrote. I

32:29

went through it right at

32:31

the Richard Pride had did it, so

32:34

I was in the free base era. I

32:37

don't know nothing about crack. I know about

32:39

free basing. You got the wipe

32:41

out of you cooked it up yourself the

32:43

evening, and

32:46

you watch it came back yourself. You

32:48

didn't get no piece of object from somebody,

32:50

and they tell it's cracked and it canna be something sheeprock.

32:54

Now you mad as all that dope. So

32:58

that only lasted for minute. That's

33:01

how I got the Hawaii because I was running

33:03

from the drug use, and

33:06

I knew I didn't come to New York City to be new

33:08

drugger. So

33:10

you pretty much cleaned yourself. I self

33:13

cleaned myself. Man. I

33:15

was laying on Rackets Island one day, screaming

33:17

pivot to the top of my lungs, and

33:20

the cat just happened to try to throw He was roasting

33:23

me. He said, Man, I

33:25

break you and your bro That

33:28

was nice enough to say, Man, how do you break

33:30

me in my road? I'm interested, he

33:33

said. When you check the money from your bro, right,

33:35

then you come to me and boy the dough right. M

33:38

hmm. I just broke both for y'all. I

33:44

fell back and I said, oh, ship, I

33:46

didn't come to New York. Don't need to break me.

33:50

I know that cat wish you never, but he thought

33:52

I was probably gonna right right roller betterm,

33:56

I mean jail. I ain't got time, be right. I'm trying

33:58

to play for the dough, not to man. So

34:01

I sucked that in. I

34:05

said, man, you won't get me to you drugs

34:07

again in life. If that's the

34:09

mentality that's on your behavior,

34:11

on your side of the game, you're

34:13

breaking us. Pimp

34:16

new players. Hold no,

34:19

y'all gotta do it sitting together and wait till us come

34:21

to you. It's over.

34:25

Yeah, she's she's selling that. He getting

34:27

paid because all of

34:30

them, like Lone Beach bullet Board, that's

34:32

all they all did, get high, get high.

34:35

They was working for the high and

34:37

the and the players, the key

34:39

players was getting high.

34:42

So that's why you stay stuck statinated

34:45

where you at Long Beach bullet Bard looking

34:47

ragny. You know what I'm saying.

34:50

You had those females that was

34:53

highs of motherfucking come out with some chopins

34:56

on and one time

34:58

we gave them up because they're already you know what, they're out

35:00

there pol you know what I'm saying, which

35:03

Las Vegas is totally different

35:05

because when you see a lady, she

35:08

and the casino working. She

35:10

ain't walking the streets. She in

35:12

the casino. So the only

35:14

way they get them is if they

35:16

profile them. When you walk through that door,

35:18

they already got a picture of you, and

35:21

that's how they tell you. Yeah, they

35:23

tell you to go on and bounce. But other

35:26

than that, they make so much money

35:28

in there because they're looking like grown

35:31

ass women. They dressed up.

35:34

They ain't out there with their hair and the ponytail.

35:36

Ponytail tilted to de side and said

35:40

they're good to go. They even

35:42

have a schedule.

35:44

Uh, anything that happened in Las

35:47

Vegas, like the NFL

35:49

drafts this weekend, we can just pass.

35:52

They all out like you

35:54

push the red button and everybody know because

35:56

there's so many people gonna be out there and

35:59

that's they weekend. They make money.

36:02

They make money. Some of them don't have a uh

36:06

a pimp, some of them do. But the ones

36:08

that do sponsors. I

36:10

know some cash out there. Man got some

36:12

nice as houses just because

36:14

of pussy nice house.

36:17

No, the commodity is I mean, the commodity

36:19

is well if they're executing it right. Man. You

36:21

know, like I say, in this day and time,

36:24

the act is committed. Right If

36:27

that brawl with the flip man, that's gonna be

36:29

the worstest evil came upon you that you

36:31

didn't recognize the act was

36:33

committed. This can hold whenever she feels

36:36

like telling. So you have

36:38

you just like, really taught me something

36:40

right now during this episode, man, because I thought,

36:43

you know, when you said the turn flatbackers, I thought

36:45

that's what the whole thing was. But

36:47

he tells he's saying that's not his thing. No,

36:51

I'm bigger than flatbackers. Man. Flatbackers

36:54

can only get a certain amount of money. Man.

37:00

I then they could put you on a lick that you might can

37:02

bring me a suitcase of money back. So

37:06

are you kind of like Charlie Gangels boss?

37:08

Then I'm like, uh,

37:11

I'm like what Goldie had in the macmen.

37:14

Then Browl put dude in the bad tub when

37:20

he came back on and he was screaming holland the

37:22

liquors going JOm m hm.

37:25

You give him that a losion that

37:28

he was going to get some flesh. We'll

37:30

go clean chelf up for daddio. So

37:34

when you can work from that angle. You're popping game.

37:39

You're not really watching this BROWL go through from

37:42

uh the format of doing

37:44

this and then come and getting you

37:47

six D. So

37:52

you're playing a long game there. It's a

37:54

long game for a long player. Man. Let

37:58

me ask you this. Man, I know you don't have to answer that

38:00

if you don't want to. What's the most you don't

38:02

never pooled in it? One day? It

38:07

ain't a bad day. No, it ain't a bad

38:10

day. Man. When you got to playing lockdown

38:14

and I say that ain't come from flatbacking, and

38:16

then come from flatbacking at all that

38:19

because I know flatbacking cannot get that.

38:22

I know that, and I'm and I put

38:24

my life on it ain't

38:27

no cat in the game. Say

38:31

they brow went did a thirty thousand now to

38:33

flatbacking, and

38:36

what's the average daily like what's the average daily

38:38

pick up on? Back in the days it was

38:40

a dime? But

38:43

see when the technology world now, so you

38:45

know it's skyrocketing

38:48

now. But then

38:50

again, I say flatbacking, So flatbacking

38:52

is do

38:55

you think I'm finish set a broad down on figure roar.

38:59

I think for the set it brought down on on

39:02

weston a

39:05

trade

39:09

in a scenario of nothing but Mexican

39:12

and black and

39:15

I'm Roadie Mac. No,

39:19

that ain't wrote, That's not broke them, Not Roadie Max

39:21

Blades Jack, Roadie

39:24

Mac and wealthy blades man around

39:26

banks downtown.

39:29

Yeah. Now you know when I when I hear most

39:31

of them, when I hear most

39:33

pimps talk, I used to hear him talk about

39:36

somebody that kind of help them get into the

39:38

game. Who was your main influence,

39:40

Like who was your mentor what? Like I said,

39:42

I come up in the life of being

39:45

around game. So

39:48

when they hit me in Chicago,

39:53

look out for yourself first. So

39:57

we're gonna lace your with some games. I'm

40:00

gonna teach you how to play the shot. I'm gonna teach

40:02

you how to pickpockle. We're gonna teach you how to drag

40:04

wnna, teach how to murphy, gonna teach how to short

40:06

chain red cart three top

40:09

man a little turn. What's the murphy? That's

40:12

a corn? Then

40:16

the trick thing he got that the girls is

40:18

upstairs. Leave all your gerban stuff

40:21

down. My old guy fast handy like to steal,

40:24

so lead that in the envelope. Man who's gonna be

40:26

at the desk with your name on it? Boom,

40:28

go up on a floor. He

40:32

comes back, You're gone. And

40:35

then the Murphy,

40:39

we was able to capitalize off his

40:41

weakness, right because

40:45

we see you seeking girls

40:47

girls girl Chinese aid in black white,

40:49

next show in thirty minutes, and

40:51

we say no, we got the girls. They're

40:54

getting prepared to

40:56

go on. Where

40:58

do I go show,

41:02

I'm a flyer, bang go

41:05

today? Flow? Oh man, you got to put that jewelry

41:07

and money is here. You know them girls can

41:10

and when not respond for that. So

41:12

we're gonna leave that at the death Murphy.

41:18

Now you see it's something before about

41:20

a red door, a red card with his red card?

41:23

What's the red card? Now you see it? Now you

41:25

don't Black and Black love Red

41:27

win same movie that did in the Mac. The

41:29

Mac elaborated a whole bunch of game

41:31

when I was sixteen years old. Them

41:35

game still exists today.

41:38

That's cool, the Murphy man, that's some cool stuff.

41:40

I just I would love to see the look on the motherfucker's

41:42

faces and when they come back down, well,

41:45

you know, like the game said, and I

41:47

live off that. It's a sucker born every

41:50

day so I wake up to look

41:52

for that soccer every day because

41:55

the game ain't feel me yet. By

41:57

that's being true, that's

42:00

my sticking move because

42:04

somewhere around the globe there's the suffer

42:06

that can be that's real ship

42:08

though I've been around

42:11

it. I know I've

42:13

been around it, and it's a

42:15

cold game, and

42:18

you just gotta trip off of the

42:20

the guys that that's any

42:22

for real, because if you ain't

42:24

any for real, you're gonna stay

42:26

like this. You're gonna be beating

42:28

up to women. You you're just disrespectful.

42:31

You're not acting like a man in a real game.

42:34

And that's that's one of the problems that they have

42:37

today out here with these young cats

42:39

out here so called theirself doing this and

42:42

doing that, dying ready for that. They're

42:44

just picking it up because they're

42:50

getting a little change. But they're only doing it

42:53

and they're getting high. They're making the money and getting

42:55

high. They're not taking it and investing

42:57

their money like some of the cats. I

42:59

know. You know what I'm saying. It's some cats

43:01

out they're living wealthy, like

43:03

for real wealthy because it's

43:05

a business to him.

43:08

You know what I'm saying. Most cats don't

43:10

look at it like that. No, they're on their

43:12

first round. That's why I tell them

43:14

I'm the truth. For the youth, I

43:16

can't. I can let you go ahead

43:19

and go to your trials and error,

43:22

but I can show you by example, stay

43:26

in this game long enough, young feller. You're

43:28

using drug Now at some point

43:30

you may overcome it. But

43:32

drugs is for the youth. But

43:35

it's not for the youth. But the

43:38

youth is the victim more so that

43:41

it's going to attack then

43:43

a cat that sixty years old and then live.

43:46

I lived at that era. I was in Amsterdam.

43:49

Everybody offered me weed. My

43:52

response, I'm too young and smoke. I'm

43:56

back of virgin Now I'm back

43:58

on inference mental lead

44:02

because I overcame what I

44:04

do know, so you can't

44:06

tell me what we don't make me feel like I already

44:08

know the maybe And with all the

44:10

new products they got out, I'm not fascinated

44:13

nobody, because

44:16

what it's gonna take me back to that same scenario?

44:20

Are you? I'm drug

44:22

free. I've been drug free for about twenty

44:24

five years. Now. I

44:27

met my best because

44:30

I know the average player that's in the game

44:32

is on drugs. M h. But

44:36

player, drugs are not for a

44:38

player. When I was a young young

44:40

I didn't know that. Being

44:43

i'm season, I may ever tell a player

44:46

drugs. It's not for the player.

44:50

You are victim to some poison

44:53

and you're trying to make it look fly. But

44:58

they're gonna down scared row. He's

45:01

the same drug. Eventually, you're gonna

45:03

make it to skid rolling home. Because

45:06

in my days, it was either drugs and luxury.

45:10

Hey, man, give me luxury, then check y'all have

45:12

a drug. He

45:16

had the two drugs luxury.

45:19

Now I'm living life for luxury because

45:22

I ain't spent the penny on drugs

45:24

in almost thirty five years. That's

45:31

a beautiful thing, man, that's a beautiful

45:33

thing. That's a strong point just as

45:35

well. Now, what do you think

45:37

about these casts out here today? Man? Because I see

45:40

the thing I noticed not a day about pens used

45:42

to always be able to separate. Like if you

45:44

saw a player back in the day, you knew

45:46

there was a player. Now

45:48

you can't tell a difference kind of It's like it's kind

45:51

of different. What do

45:53

you think about these cats of things? That's why I say

45:55

the lango may try to catch you. Hey,

45:58

Pete was a p but

46:02

you're tired. I'm

46:04

not matching up. So

46:08

if you're tire not matching up, you

46:10

could have gotten me with your tire, because

46:13

I know one really gotta stay suited and booty

46:15

like I am to day in

46:18

order to really be official, like a referee would

46:20

have whistled. But

46:22

if you every day you're seeing player

46:25

here and sneakers and Dean Dona

46:28

read. But

46:32

you ain't got the whole scenario. Some

46:35

cat, it's not the close of the game

46:37

or no. Brother, seriously, go look

46:40

back at the footage. Is the

46:43

outfits make statement? You

46:49

got on Louis Gucci in at it. That's not

46:51

the Pippen man, that's name

46:53

brand. You're marketing somebody else. But

46:57

when you suited and booted man until

47:00

up, man, you ain't to go on wall Stree didn't

47:02

get around big financial institution.

47:07

Oh man, we're talking. We can get in, but man,

47:09

have some discipline about your

47:11

behavior. Yeah, you

47:13

can go in there acting all Ron Ryan get on and

47:15

everything, but don't spook the people.

47:17

Man, at least get

47:19

a chance to get up phoned. Oh we

47:21

know we shouldn't let looking and had sneakers on that's

47:24

why they do them. People like theyre in the club. No

47:27

sneakers have to have a

47:29

college shirt on. Some cats try

47:31

to come there with a shirt on, like y'all no

47:33

call on and try to get in the club

47:36

home. You can't get in. We don't need that, any

47:38

of them. That's a statement.

47:41

You ain't a gentleman because

47:44

you ain't going to go out on the town on the night

47:47

light. And you ain't got a college shirt on.

47:49

Man, at least a college shirt. So

47:53

now you got to go find the ghetto joint, right.

47:57

That's crazy, man, that's crazy.

47:59

And one thing I wanted to

48:01

clarify with you by

48:04

you having the philosophy that you had in your

48:06

business in the time period you came in the game, because

48:08

you have two things. In the eighties you had Craig

48:10

epidemic and you had AIDS as

48:13

a major thing. How

48:16

much the aids impact the

48:18

industry. For the guys that was doing with the flatbackers,

48:21

it was suicidal, man, it

48:24

was suicidal. You're

48:26

sent in the brow the literally flatback and do

48:28

you trust that she's some trick?

48:31

Don't give us some money to not use the rubble?

48:33

They're back and all that and then you go

48:36

follow behind her that suicidal

48:40

The spirit of truth watched over

48:42

me for many a time. I

48:45

ran into this chick so fucking

48:47

fine, dropped dead gorgeous,

48:52

and she was respectful enough to tell

48:54

me, I know you probably want to sex me, but

48:58

I got the virus. Just

49:03

opened the pocketbook eight

49:06

nine different kind of drugs. Were

49:10

you were you? Was this this is uh?

49:13

Eight eight seven? I

49:17

said, doll, I thank you for being honest. And

49:19

I stayed friends with it because I wanted to watch

49:21

her conditions and how this really

49:24

moved. Because the AID epidemic was

49:26

there, but this girl was drop dead

49:28

gorgeous, didn't show no

49:31

signs of it. But

49:33

the medications she sold me in a person. Yeah,

49:38

the cousin and dad, A man, that's like that

49:41

stuff used to scare the hell out of me. Man, dere

49:46

Now it's over, it's

49:49

been gone. I'm married, it's

49:52

gone. Ages gone.

49:54

I was Vegas, not in Vegas is now. Age

49:56

is still very prevalent. Man. I ain't

49:59

heard a's, I ain't heard of patient. I think

50:01

some of my partners died from the AID. Well, you know the

50:03

thing, you know, people learned dying from it like

50:05

they used to get, you know, but they're still there.

50:08

But they got they got really good treatments to let people

50:10

live alone time now. And that's the thing,

50:13

man, I don't think we talked enough about

50:15

it, you know. I think people sometimes

50:17

these you know, but these junk kids, they

50:20

think so much at the moment. Man, I say, hey,

50:22

man, you don't know that, because when you sleep with somebody,

50:24

you're sleeping with the person they slept with and

50:26

the person that that person slept with. I'm

50:28

gonna tell you what really changed me, man, Really

50:31

when I was a kid, would really freaking me out.

50:33

Man. I saw a poster

50:35

when I was taking the physical. He had a picture

50:38

of like a little symbol of a man, and

50:40

they said when you sleep with somebody, and they showed

50:42

hot like quantify And I

50:44

thought about that, man, I said, man, that's some crazy

50:47

stuff. And then when Magic

50:49

Johnson and I don't he had it, I was you

50:52

know, then when Easy announced that he

50:54

had it and they said he was in the hospital dying,

50:57

I said, man, it's

50:59

for really ain't worth it. That's because you got fuckers

51:02

out there that have it, and Field

51:05

fucked up by having it, and then they don't

51:07

want to tell you They just fucking spreading

51:10

it, like on the bike side, you know, come

51:12

out the penitentiary other guys. But

51:15

man, and come on right even

51:17

there. You know when when

51:19

I was in the penitentiary, this eighties

51:22

six eight motherfucker's

51:25

was getting rolled up out of there, getting

51:28

sent down the Chino getting

51:31

out, come home straight

51:34

to your girl. No, that ain't

51:36

cool. So those

51:38

cats that was on the d L spreading

51:41

it more than the chicks that was on the street,

51:44

You feel me. Did nobody want

51:46

to tell nobody they had it because they knew people wouldn't

51:48

go sunk with him. You know, I was

51:50

scared to funk with him. So it

51:53

just it just trickled everything. The motorcycle

51:56

set, the car clubs, all that

51:58

ship, and those

52:00

checks from the bike chap went to the motor shop

52:02

club. Now they got it and they

52:05

fucking and hitting the switches and all that ship.

52:08

Sure a lot of cash caught that ship. But

52:11

today it's just like COVID. It's

52:14

just so fucking what you called him. Now everybody

52:16

it's normal. Yeah, you know,

52:18

nobody want to talk about it. You know what the thing

52:20

is, we have to

52:23

be real careful, man, just because

52:25

people think, especially these kids, man, because

52:27

they didn't grow up in the air. You know, we hit us. We saw

52:30

it right up the front. That's just scared the hell out

52:32

of me. It actually changed me for being

52:34

the person I've been married now, man for

52:36

thirty years. I've been what I've

52:38

been with the same woman since I was eighteen,

52:42

and I believe it's because of the whole

52:44

age stuff. That stuff scared here a lot of me. I don't

52:46

want I didn't want to go out and have a whole

52:48

bunch of from miss you with two of you to meet,

52:50

you know what I mean. I wasn't gonna be doing it. It

52:53

scared me. But these kids now, they

52:57

don't think about that. You know what I'm saying,

53:00

No, And I can say the youth is living young,

53:02

wild and free. The song is out and living

53:04

young, and it's understand it.

53:06

That why I tell him, I understand. I'm the truth for the

53:09

youth. I once was a youth, young

53:11

feller. I jumped shipped from

53:13

my mother. She wanted to move

53:15

back to uh we live in Chicago. She

53:17

wanted to move back to New Orleans. I

53:19

said no, Mom staying in Chicago. Then I wind

53:21

him going to New York eighteen

53:26

years old. I know, I don't want to. I got to. I got mom,

53:28

we got to cut loose right here. I didn't want it, but

53:31

it came to that. Listen

53:33

to this man, This ain't a reason. This is

53:35

in one

53:38

point five million people became newly

53:40

infected with HIV and six

53:44

d eighty thousand people died from age

53:46

related illnesses. In seventy

53:49

nine point three million people have become

53:52

effective with HIV since the start of this

53:54

epidemic. That's a lot

53:56

of people, though, Now why you would stop talking

53:59

about that the virus is still that, the

54:01

age is still out there. Because I ain't heard no conversation

54:04

on it about ten years. That's

54:06

a lot of that's a lot of new In fact, James, that

54:08

qualifies to me as an epidemic still, you

54:10

know, point five and people getting something,

54:13

but just like they're not they're not televising

54:15

it. Talking voice

54:18

spoken about aide

54:20

in over ten years, actually

54:24

long time not to hear about it. And this is

54:26

the first time I'm hearing nobody with us talking

54:28

about Yeah. And that's why I said, because see

54:32

I actually look, I didn't look

54:34

at you with a bad light before. I didn't

54:36

you know what I mean, I don't judge nobody in my place

54:38

to judge nobody, but what

54:41

you're doing was actually smart. Yeah,

54:45

you know that term the flatbackers and stuff like that.

54:48

What you're doing is you're just executing game. Just

54:51

executing game, isn't you know? So?

54:55

But you didn't a way to where you probably

54:57

survived as long as you have because

54:59

you're when you talk to it like pimps.

55:02

I'm talking about dudes that really was straight

55:05

down, didn't have no other backbone

55:07

executed. They usually got horror stories

55:09

about it. They talk about you know what I'm saying.

55:11

They got, they got some they went through some things. They

55:16

say. It's a different level for everybody.

55:19

Everybody had their own platform, how

55:22

they execute their women and everything.

55:25

So it's different levels for how

55:28

how he get out the next

55:30

cag gonna get out totally different. He

55:32

got a he got a nine in piece of

55:34

water holes, whooping the ship out of one because

55:37

she didn't come back right now, and

55:39

then make her get back out there, funked up, black

55:41

out the whole nine and she ain't gonna

55:44

come back in until that paper

55:46

right. So it's just different levels

55:48

to the game, and that way you ain't fused to be executed,

55:51

right that movie did ain't pull Home,

55:54

You ain't gonna you don't have a long run. Come

55:56

in upholder, I got

55:58

a longer run coming. But home

56:02

bro down. They're gonna be going for the rest of your life. And that's

56:04

all you're gonna do to her, right, that's

56:08

all you're gonna do to her. Now,

56:10

let me get this COVID topic. Man, When

56:13

the first time you heard about COVID covid

56:16

um? I heard about COVID the first

56:18

time. We actually used to record this spot

56:21

um up in Hollywood else

56:24

and I remember they

56:27

had shut the studio down. Remember the studio.

56:30

Stuff got shut down. We're

56:32

talking this had to

56:36

get in the nineteen at the beginning

56:38

nineteen and

56:40

so it was kind of like

56:44

stuff got shut down. Everybody was standing inside,

56:46

you know what I mean. I was scared to death. I

56:48

don't know what the hell was gonna happen, But

56:51

the world got shut down in because

56:54

I was at the Monte Crap and right out to

56:56

the Morty Crap February, the NBA was

56:58

playing. They shut the NBA games.

57:01

I'm sorry to sex, but you're right, it was. We

57:06

was coming out of twenty nineteen coming two.

57:10

Now, okay, so I'm not

57:13

like a mom. Yeah, so okay, So I'm gonna

57:15

tell you my scenario. I've

57:17

been an Asian like five times. Nothing

57:21

happened to me. You know, I supposed to say he parted

57:24

to get a quarantine and they

57:26

weren't even executing it. I'm

57:28

straight jumping flights and landing in foreign countries

57:30

and bom moving around. Nothing happened to

57:32

me. Nineteen,

57:35

I go to the Philippines, fle

57:38

out of l a X. Flew the Philippines in November.

57:43

I get sick, but I'm

57:45

taking the sickness to be a regular

57:47

cold because

57:49

I'm a coffin and saw a throat that

57:52

I'm always going through in America. This

57:55

one, this twenty nineteen, this

57:58

one went into a

58:01

daggon. So

58:04

I had to tell people that. In the Philippine, man referred

58:07

me to a private doctor because this here

58:09

cold. We should have been left. And

58:11

I'm going on like the fourth week, but

58:14

I'm still doing home remedy. Man.

58:17

When the lady took me in to see the doctor,

58:20

the lady put the test goo on my chest. She

58:23

declared me to have an upper respiratory

58:25

infection. I

58:27

went back to my room. When I googled it, that's

58:31

in the family of pneumonia, the

58:33

flute and death. My

58:36

head out of went on a fifth week when

58:39

it wouldn't have made it, not that they put you

58:41

in the hospital. No, she only gave me some

58:44

mucus peel two. You

58:46

know, take that mucus off my long

58:49

I'm talking about. I was gagging and

58:52

I know something wrong with me. But this happened

58:54

from my entering into

58:56

Asia. Now, then what happened

58:59

They screaming coronavirus? Now,

59:02

but when they screamed it it was in at

59:06

the money grass. When

59:09

I google what coronavirus was, what's

59:12

in there? Upper respiratory infection.

59:15

That lady would have declared me a coronavirus

59:18

patient, but the word was not out

59:20

there. So she gave me the

59:22

truth. So I tell everybody, coronavirus

59:25

is not an illness. What was the illness

59:29

was? The pneumoni was up respiratory infect

59:31

It was a respiratory infected. To see the thing about

59:33

COVID though, roding is it's

59:36

different people differently when I

59:38

have it. When COVID is not an

59:40

illness, what is the illness?

59:42

The lady was able to tell the truth because

59:44

she didn't have the word to tell a person

59:47

he had COVID. When I called COVID

59:49

here in America and I went to the doctor, they

59:51

said, yeah, you had COVID. Didn't

59:53

send me home with nothing. Yeah,

59:56

they don't have nothing they can give you unless

59:59

you got an upper respip to our infection with it, something

1:00:02

to relieve it a little bit. That time

1:00:05

it was new though first came out,

1:00:07

they didn't know what the hell to do with Well, you know, actually

1:00:10

we've had a different little um over

1:00:13

listen, but before you go home. So when

1:00:15

Trump told the world that it came

1:00:18

out of China, I'm able

1:00:20

to say Trump was right because

1:00:22

I called a connected flight from l

1:00:24

A to Beijing,

1:00:27

and while sitting in the airport, that's

1:00:30

why I had probably called it coded. By time

1:00:32

I landed in the Philippine,

1:00:35

I took sick, but not knowing

1:00:37

that that transition took place

1:00:40

at that time, How long did you stay sick? About

1:00:43

a whole month in the Philippine. So

1:00:46

you had it twice, I had it four

1:00:48

times, already had cold four times

1:00:50

three in American one and Asia. We

1:00:54

should make your as know

1:01:00

when you got the symptoms and everything. That's when you know

1:01:02

you got it. Scott told the running

1:01:05

nose, the coughing. So

1:01:07

when I'm not going through none of that, I know I'm

1:01:09

all right. But I know when I got

1:01:11

it cause it started in in

1:01:13

the throat, you know what, because actually we were supposed

1:01:16

to do this, and I few a couple of months ago,

1:01:18

right, and he was telling me that she wasn't feeling it right and didn't

1:01:20

want to go around nobody, you know, So he

1:01:22

was headed too. Yeah, I had

1:01:24

it um when I had it, though, and

1:01:27

I gotta ask me that's why. I just knew. That's

1:01:29

why I was scared of. I said, if I catched it, I'm gonna

1:01:31

do this. But when I cut it, I couldn't

1:01:33

do nothing but go to sleep, Like I couldn't wake up.

1:01:35

I would wake up for like five or ten minutes. The

1:01:37

next thing, you know, I'm just like it was just like my body

1:01:40

was in shutdown. And

1:01:43

they just they bless your heart, and they

1:01:45

just had the players ball in San Diego, and

1:01:48

I couldn't even go because I just got over the

1:01:50

fourth time of it. Well my throat

1:01:52

with it, and I knew he's gonna all be in a room

1:01:55

breathing on one another, and I said, no, I

1:01:57

can't. I can't go up in that joint like it's

1:02:00

ain't attacking me too many times. I'm too

1:02:02

different and many different areas. But but

1:02:06

I know that's why I say,

1:02:08

I know COVID is not it. It's

1:02:11

the symptom that you get to

1:02:13

scratch. You see

1:02:17

me, I'm I'm getting the sanitizing

1:02:19

stuff, not in me full time times

1:02:23

me full time, man, because

1:02:26

I ain't never had it. You know you you're blessed,

1:02:28

bro. I got the vaccine. I know

1:02:30

a lot of people don't. I ain't gonna go too much into

1:02:32

that because I think people got their choices of what they want

1:02:35

to do. Choice thing because I ain't got it yet, and I

1:02:37

refused to get it because I'm not going to

1:02:39

subject myself to taking something y'all have

1:02:41

no medical research on. You

1:02:44

just threw it out there and know that was unlearned.

1:02:46

Went after. I gotta button on

1:02:48

the linta right now, he said, Man, I took the shot

1:02:51

two times. Man, I'm still catching this thing.

1:02:55

That's why I'm not back in aging now, because

1:02:57

I gotta take the shot to get to travel again

1:03:00

into him. I'm holding out because

1:03:03

I know this was a political move

1:03:05

based on what I don't know, but

1:03:07

it was a political move. How you shut the

1:03:10

whole world down? Right now? Let

1:03:12

me you know what's speaking of that? I tell you. I'm

1:03:14

gonna tell you why they shut it down. Trump

1:03:18

was not having it that China was

1:03:20

extorting us for the

1:03:22

import and export. When

1:03:25

Trump got in there and saw the menu, China

1:03:29

say, hey, man, you don't when we aren't gonna

1:03:31

cut out prices, they released

1:03:33

the virus because Trump

1:03:36

was not a lane. All the other president

1:03:38

was buying in. Trump

1:03:40

was not buying in. So what China

1:03:43

do? Chemical warfare?

1:03:45

That's my opinion. Because Trump was

1:03:47

going at them folks in China. No,

1:03:50

man, we ain't paying that. You're trying to extort

1:03:52

me. Man, Like I don't know how to play the game too,

1:03:54

And I got building all throughout America.

1:03:58

Man, cut them price homes h

1:04:01

it's deep. I

1:04:03

put my put my life on that. Trump

1:04:06

ain't the menu, man, I'm not paying

1:04:08

that. Man. What Trump? You know, we

1:04:10

didn't shut the world down. Everybody's shot with

1:04:12

China, right, and

1:04:15

we ain't gonna lose out when we in set

1:04:17

down and we were sacrificing

1:04:20

my old people. And

1:04:22

when we get back up and running, we're gonna still be

1:04:24

powerful. Yeah, real, so

1:04:27

man, we really appreciate you

1:04:30

coming up. Let me ask you. This your

1:04:32

your jury. You're you're chaining

1:04:34

your ring. That's

1:04:37

that customized.

1:04:39

Man, got the whole world in my hand,

1:04:41

Roadie mac on top of the world. That's what it

1:04:43

meant. And I'm talking about other

1:04:45

folks, you know, everybody or rock

1:04:48

the globe. The world is mine right,

1:04:51

Well, I'm really spanning the globe, man, Yeah,

1:04:54

I'm spanning the globe, man, like for

1:04:56

real. Men, everybody said

1:04:59

the International, but don't play. They're going

1:05:01

from Maytown to the next sound in the USA.

1:05:03

That's not in the nath room, that's in the state. You

1:05:06

know, I didn't have to speak to you, but yeah,

1:05:09

before before I go, I want to ask you this. What's

1:05:13

the grimiest city you've been to in the United

1:05:15

States? Well,

1:05:22

on what I'm doing, man, I'm not even looking.

1:05:25

I know how to stay away from grime. Arecative

1:05:27

because I know prime marketing

1:05:30

place in any city that going it's

1:05:33

the downtown. You

1:05:37

ain't finishing no grimy activity

1:05:39

in no downtown and no city in America.

1:05:42

Well do you got other pen partners

1:05:44

that don't you know, been other places.

1:05:46

Yeah, they go to other places. Got to go and then get

1:05:48

old because your game required you to

1:05:50

go into them areas like like, but you knowing about

1:05:52

that, what would you say? The most grimy area was

1:05:56

ship They can come to Figure Road, they can go

1:05:58

up on the Hunt Points, they

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can go to Queen Borld and

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uh a queen breathe in uh

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New York. They're going the

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South side of Chicago. I

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can't sit on these tracks, man, you

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had some dangerous spotses you knew that because prospecting

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Cleveland was griming. Yeah, I can't.

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I can't sit on the track of me and I need some bright

1:06:21

lights. Man, he's

1:06:24

gained the light up like Tokyo

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Man shin Yuka. A

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lot of y'all in ready to pronounce that, But that's the downtown

1:06:32

of Tokyo Shinjuka

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in the national Now, where can people find you at

1:06:38

bro Man when they can google

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ROADI Mac and they're

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gonna see the whole scuibe. But on Instagram,

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I'm Roadie mc McMahon youded

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and I haven't lived in color Man hanging out with all

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the stars. There

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we go I was just with uh, your

1:06:58

man, Benny Seagal yesterday. Man called him

1:07:00

out on the blade. That's why I got this legend

1:07:02

on my head, man, because I am

1:07:04

a street star legend. I

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don't need all that Hollywood glamoring,

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all that fraud behavior. The

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gutter of the concrete. There's

1:07:15

still being executed, man, the

1:07:20

flies, cats in the game over

1:07:24

for the years, all across America. That's

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a legendary. That's

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a long time man, still looking young, healthy,

1:07:33

medical problems at a zero vegetarian,

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don't eat poise and meet no more. You know.

1:07:38

That's probably why you casing that covid though. Man, you gotta

1:07:40

have that pork in there. Man to the

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things. You gotta have that

1:07:45

pork, man, and that kind of that beef pork

1:07:47

was gonna get your counting everything. No, I

1:07:50

don't mess with pork either. I'm just messing with that.

1:07:52

But but we go go ahead, man, and we go

1:07:54

shut this down. Man. I really

1:07:56

appreciate you coming on. Man. We got some other stuff

1:07:59

to talk about. Yeah, yeah,

1:08:02

James still were up been here man with Gainster

1:08:04

Chronicle. Man gotta TV. We

1:08:06

did it, Jack, that's

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it right there, and we out of here.

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Piece