0:07

Good morning everybody. I know it feels like

0:09

a month since we were here last but

0:11

it's only been a couple of days and

0:13

it's when it is Wednesday? James

0:16

flex Wednesday. Oh Wednesday today. Who knows?

0:18

I mean yesterday I was I

0:20

was talking to somebody and I actually

0:22

had to think very hard like

0:24

what's the date? What's the day?

0:27

What the fuck am I doing? After

0:31

all these public holidays,

0:33

I'm delighted this morning

0:36

to have two of my favorite people here in the

0:38

studio with us. They've got a little show they

0:40

want to tell us about. Among other

0:42

things, they are none other than

0:44

the supremely talented and brilliant Jason

0:46

and Nicholas Goliath. No relation. No,

0:48

well, cousins. But there we go. It's

0:51

so nice to see you. It's so nice

0:53

to see you. Yeah, man. And I know

0:55

how busy you've both been. So I really

0:57

appreciate you making time, especially after all these

0:59

weird public holidays. I was bitching and complaining

1:01

just now. I said to Nicholas, listen, you

1:04

can tell after winter. You can

1:06

tell off the Easter winters here. Yeah,

1:09

I think there's rain going on now, but

1:11

on the way in this morning there

1:13

was lightning and thunder and I'm like But

1:16

it was that other end of the world lightning and thunder.

1:19

That shit that lights everything

1:21

up like the zombie apocalypse.

1:23

What did I do? I

1:25

started looking for the cameras on the

1:27

side of the road. Did you have a

1:29

nice long weekend with the family? Did

1:32

you work? What did you guys get up

1:34

to? I had a lazy weekend. I

1:36

did not spend some family time on Friday.

1:38

did the the good friday thing watch my

1:40

family eat seafood because i don't do

1:42

seafood and and then the rest of the

1:44

weekend i was just with my wife

1:46

and kids at home just proper home family

1:49

time nice it was such

1:51

a weird weekend because

1:53

i also did like thursday

1:55

night friday night sunday

1:57

monday I did nothing on Saturday. I

2:00

saw some friends, but that was it. And

2:02

otherwise it was very wholesome. And

2:04

I can, you could tell we're getting old

2:06

as well. It used to be like,

2:08

if you saw a long weekend in your

2:10

twenties, you'd be like, yes, I'm going

2:12

to be hungover at the end of that.

2:14

I used to plan my off days

2:16

because I'm like sick days. I come because

2:18

I never plan my leave. Yeah. And

2:20

I always see the longing and I'm like,

2:22

ah, damn it. I should have put

2:24

in three days for this week and then

2:26

just take the three days anyway. No,

2:28

I slept. I did good Friday with the

2:30

family. Then I caught a sinus thing

2:32

from too many flights last week. And

2:34

then I went to bed Friday night. I

2:37

woke up Monday. I can't describe it

2:39

better than that. I slept.

2:41

I woke up Saturday,

2:44

got out of bed maybe at five because my wife forced

2:46

me to eat something, got back into bed at eight. Slept

2:49

again like it was the first sleep. You must

2:51

know his wife had to force him to eat something.

2:53

No, then you know. you know that's DevCon?

2:55

That's how she knows. If

2:57

you sleep that long, do you also like you

2:59

wake up and your back is almost sore because

3:01

it's like not used to be? I took a

3:03

cat aflame Sunday morning. What are you talking about?

3:05

What are you talking about? Nicholas is

3:07

best friend. He had a shoulder operation

3:09

because he fell asleep wrong on the

3:11

couch. That's the age we are. That

3:13

is the greatest description of the age

3:15

we are. Shout out. Shout out fell

3:17

asleep wrong. So literally woke up Sunday

3:19

in pain, took a cat aflame, reset.

3:21

Some of my two mypridols. I was

3:23

like, I haven't had alcohol. might as

3:25

well. I don't to prove. Your secret's

3:27

coming out like that, right? I'm sorry.

3:29

No, right? It's a two condom. We

3:31

know your motor plane is expired, bro.

3:33

We know you're out of motor planes.

3:35

How good is that? It is. Listen,

3:37

it's also weird we can... If you

3:39

were Catholic, the Pope died, which was

3:41

very, very... Too much of a coincidence,

3:43

huh? On Good Friday, eh? I

3:46

thought it had Sunday. Was it Good Friday? Well,

3:48

cuz I thought it was like it

3:51

was tag in tag out JD Vance

3:53

flew in and then suddenly was dead.

3:55

I'm a JD Vance that guy's suspicious

3:57

That guy is one of the most

3:59

suspicious characters on earth for me, and

4:01

I'm not even a politics guy, you

4:03

know I don't follow but JD Vance

4:05

I'm just like my guy. I would

4:07

love to see in your fridge. Yeah

4:09

Are you think he's creepy? No, I

4:12

think it's remember where that bloom over

4:14

the with the cookies in his freezer

4:16

Yeah, I will not put J .D.

4:18

Vance has got things you can't describe.

4:20

You'll say no, it's just Chinese leftovers.

4:22

In the meantime, it's Chinese. All

4:24

right, so stop all this

4:26

old. Biassan in the

4:28

comments says, stop all this old talk. But

4:32

CoinBoot says, soon Gareth will get guests on

4:34

to talk about back pain. Listen, don't

4:36

pretend you don't have any of this going

4:38

on. What's up? We

4:41

asked him about Bitcoin Boots. No, who complained

4:43

about the Bitcoin Boots? Bitcoin Boots. Yeah, Bitcoin

4:45

Boots. That's the thing in front

4:47

of his laptop, hunched over with his

4:49

couple tunnels and room trying to

4:51

collect his Bitcoin app. how his pharmacist

4:53

sees him and goes, count concoction? Bitcoin

4:57

Boots. He said the whole day, we know

4:59

you ate. His toes are always up like

5:01

this. Thumbs up in the world. Now,

5:04

here's a good point from Desperate Housewife.

5:06

Since it's 6 .06 in the morning,

5:08

you just know. This is really pissing

5:10

her off. Can we

5:12

please call for all plugs charging cables and

5:14

power cables to be standardized traveling abroad

5:16

and it's a whole bag of different ones

5:18

for different devices and countries. Yeah.

5:22

I mean, it sounds like a

5:24

stupid problem to have, but

5:26

geez, I have to carry a bag of

5:28

cables, different plugs, different things. And you

5:31

never remember which country has which plug. If

5:33

you're traveling overseas and even here, I

5:35

sometimes want to charge this thing and

5:37

I'm like. USB -C now

5:39

which one's that? Yeah, that's how

5:41

old we are. We

5:44

know this

5:46

one. We

5:48

know this

5:51

one. Yes, it's a

5:53

top tip for your life desperate

5:55

housewife. You need to find

5:57

reasons to be grateful. Then that

5:59

problem you have is a problem

6:01

of gratitude. There are people

6:03

that don't even know they are different plugs.

6:05

There are people who are living a

6:08

Mobisare life now that don't know HD exists

6:10

on a phone. First of all, you got

6:12

a passport and your problem is you travel

6:14

so much. Oh my God, these cables. Then

6:16

I'm just like, look at it as, look

6:18

at it as, oh my goodness, I've got

6:20

such a lack of problem. Yes, it's frustrating,

6:22

I agree. I've got such a lack

6:24

of problem. Then get your life together. You're

6:26

a housewife. You don't have much to do.

6:29

Buy a kit. You get a kit now.

6:31

Then it's a universal, all the plugs in

6:33

one. You operate with that thing, you keep

6:35

it in with your password. it's retractable. Those

6:37

things you pull out. Yeah. Yeah. In some

6:39

ways, I'm actually pleased that

6:41

they've changed all of it to these new

6:43

USB -C's because not everything does. I feel

6:45

like we asked them. We're going into

6:47

work. Desperate housewife, before you kill yourself, we

6:50

are headed in the right direction. Yeah. Hanging

6:52

from all your cables. Even Apple

6:54

is Samsung now. Yeah. Exactly. So

6:56

things are starting to come right. Listen.

7:01

It's amazing thing here. I mean, you're

7:03

right. These are not serious problems.

7:05

These are good problems to have. Yeah.

7:07

It's like when you realize you

7:09

talk to someone you haven't seen for

7:11

a while and you hear about

7:13

their divorce and their debt and the

7:15

fact that the house is going

7:17

to go and the kids hate him

7:19

or whatever. Perspective. When you go, I'll

7:22

have my problems. Thank you.

7:24

Matt, thought I had problems compared

7:26

to this. Perspective. Nah. I've

7:28

been quoting the great Stuart Taylor. who did

7:30

a gag he posted the other day

7:32

and it was one of those where you

7:34

know it's where comedians can take such

7:36

a serious thing and make it sound so

7:38

simple and he just said you guys

7:40

i have a problem if you're gonna come

7:42

for me the comments come for me

7:44

but if you feel sad just hang out

7:46

with people that are fatter than you

7:49

and then i was like that's such a

7:51

simple sentence but it really not a

7:53

bad play to wonder if you feel down

7:55

Your friends are not that enough. They

7:57

didn't make you understand why Stuart always phones

7:59

you when he's in town. Yes, but

8:01

you hang out with me, but I'm here

8:03

to spread joy and cholesterol. All

8:05

right. So listen, talking about

8:07

exactly that, the thing that

8:10

you're doing is called the

8:12

happiness economy comedy tour. Yes.

8:15

Okay. I don't

8:17

want us to get Into a

8:19

psychological assessment of what happiness is

8:21

because I know that would bore

8:23

everyone to death. Yeah, including you

8:25

two and me and the audience,

8:27

but I do think that Happiness

8:29

is such a complicated thing, you

8:31

know, it's even it's even enshrined

8:33

in like the US Declaration of

8:35

Independence They go you have the

8:37

right to life Liberty and the

8:39

pursuit of happiness so you must

8:41

seek happiness Yes, and then I

8:43

listened to modern philosophers a lot

8:45

of these pod bros and you

8:47

know people who you read articles

8:49

in op eds about what happiness

8:51

means and is happiness a good

8:53

goal within itself and again i

8:55

don't want to turn this into

8:57

a massive analysis first thing in

8:59

the morning but the idea is

9:01

that either happiness is not a

9:03

good enough goal on its own

9:05

that's what some people tell you

9:07

it's a stupid childish meaningless ethereal

9:09

thing that you can't actually get

9:12

your head. You don't know when

9:14

you're there. And then there's these

9:16

people who tell you that joy

9:18

and happiness are different things. And

9:20

you get the other end of

9:22

the spectrum who say, no, actually,

9:24

if you can just say, I'm

9:26

happy, you're winning at life.

9:29

And I don't know which ones are right. What

9:31

do you guys think before? I

9:33

mean, you called it this, the

9:35

happiness economy. I like that there's

9:37

economy in there as well. Yeah,

9:40

yeah, yeah, yeah. No, we've got to

9:42

get this one. Where does this come from?

9:45

So it came from

9:47

COVID. COVID hit.

9:49

It obliterated everything. Well, you guys

9:51

were like the central tent

9:53

peg in the comedy world at

9:55

that point. You'd opened up

9:57

venues. We were pumping. You were

10:00

keeping the comedy world not just alive,

10:02

but healthy. As best we could. As best

10:04

we could. I mean, something comes in

10:06

that no one could have predicted and wipes

10:08

us out. And then we saw the

10:10

diaries die. And then you kind of

10:12

went through that first 21 days of feeling like,

10:14

OK, it's over. you know what I mean it's

10:16

over and then I must be honest I had

10:18

this this this like deep feeling down in my

10:20

heart where I was like at least I got

10:22

to do it like there's so many people that

10:24

didn't get to do it and live entertainment is

10:27

gone forever because it was doom and gloom then

10:29

I've always been obsessing about happiness and I had

10:31

the sum in my mind that was like in

10:33

my 20s I always just you know I was

10:35

obsessed with being happy obsessed with being happy and

10:37

I believe that money would make me happy so

10:39

I had the sum was success equals happiness and

10:42

if I were the more successful I'd be

10:44

the happier I'd become then I found comedy

10:46

in my 30s and it changed the sum

10:48

to the same sum but the equal sign

10:50

I was just reading it wrong so happiness

10:52

equal success so instead of chasing the money

10:54

chase the happy and by virtue of the

10:56

sum I'd make it and because the summit

10:58

wouldn't let me go so then Nick and

11:00

I had nothing to do and we spent

11:02

the whole of covid just trying to unpack

11:04

okay what is this happiness exactly like you

11:06

try to do now why are we all

11:09

chasing it why in a room full of

11:11

people if you ask what happiness is or

11:13

what makes you happy hardly anybody can give

11:15

you a straight answer those that are giving

11:17

your answer give you a cut and paste

11:19

answer my kids my wife you know what

11:21

i mean uh things that you and worse

11:23

worse a lot of people will tell you

11:25

exactly why they're unhappy absolutely very easy to

11:27

i like the worst conversation you want to

11:29

end up in because hey we've all got

11:31

problems But I'm interested in whether you think

11:33

people and again, making people laugh is a

11:35

way to make them happy, even if it's

11:37

momentarily. But that's so that's what we realized.

11:39

So we start this podcast to ask people

11:41

as many people as we could, people we

11:43

think are happy. people who show us on

11:46

social media that they're happy, we say come

11:48

and let's interrogate this happiness. So then we

11:50

start this podcast just to interrogate this happiness.

11:52

Let's understand this to see if we can't

11:54

because nowadays everybody uses the data. So you

11:56

collect the data. You speak to as many

11:58

people as possible. You collect the data points

12:00

and then maybe you have an answer. So

12:02

after like 40 episodes of this podcast,

12:04

what we figured out is happiness does

12:07

not exist the way we all think

12:09

it exists. Happiness only exists right now.

12:11

It only exists in this second. in

12:13

this moment like you hear things of

12:15

it's about the destination all of those

12:17

all of those all of those cliched

12:19

long things i mean all are in

12:21

some way uh true but it only

12:23

exists in the now right so so

12:25

how do you then achieve that how

12:27

do you how do you get there

12:29

and then we came up with this

12:31

with this comedy show to go okay

12:33

if happiness only exists in the now

12:35

and it doesn't exist the way we

12:37

think it exists is there a formula

12:39

that you can live something that you

12:41

can learn to apply every day to

12:43

live the happiest possible version of your

12:45

life. You know what I mean?

12:47

To have more happy hours, to feel

12:49

more okay now. So like when I make

12:51

that thing about the story about the

12:53

cables, then I'm like, you just flip a

12:55

perspective. Just flip your perspective every now

12:57

and then, give yourself a different lens and

12:59

try to seek out that feel good

13:01

rather than that feel bad because the feel

13:04

bad is generally loud and we also

13:06

in a space where that cable situation becomes

13:08

the biggest problem in your life 100 %

13:10

it becomes the thing that drives you

13:12

crazy that frustrates you that makes you angry

13:14

you love off of this cable thing

13:16

when like we said you change the perspective

13:18

you get to travel the world most

13:20

people never leave the country you get to

13:22

travel the world stop focusing on the

13:24

problem and look at the fact that you

13:26

get to do what other people don't

13:28

do because also we believe that Happiness is

13:30

not a, I feel like the English

13:32

has restricted us to believe that happiness is

13:35

a specific thing. But I think it's

13:37

different for everybody. Like what makes me happy

13:39

is going to be different for you,

13:41

for everybody out there for Bitcoin. And

13:43

you know, you've got to, you've

13:46

got to, I feel like that

13:48

understanding that it's different is the first

13:50

step in actually getting to your

13:53

happiness to know. what you're looking because

13:55

nobody teaches us how to look

13:57

for happiness, what makes us happy. That

13:59

peace is the closest word that

14:01

you can get to because we are

14:03

two miserable people, Nicholas and I.

14:05

We know very bad mood. I'm very

14:07

grumpy that it's 2025. Garrett

14:10

Cliff still wants to wake up at

14:12

six o 'clock. We can record this

14:14

bloody podcast anytime of the day. This

14:16

guy still wants to wake up at

14:18

this time of the day. So we

14:20

are grumpy people, but in that grumpiness,

14:22

how do you live the best version

14:24

of your life and it's peace. So

14:26

it's not just about happy, clapping, laughing

14:28

all the time, smiling all the

14:30

time. And the worst is that you,

14:32

you know, yet those people who

14:34

pretend that they're happy, they're passive aggressive

14:37

with happiness. Those are the saddest.

14:39

That was not the, what do they

14:41

call it? Toxic positivity. Yeah. Yeah. That's

14:44

a big thing now. In fact, there

14:46

are people writing articles and all kinds

14:48

of things about this toxic positivity. You

14:50

know, you go into an office and

14:52

then people are Super super nice to

14:54

each other and they're pretending everything is

14:56

fantastic when everybody knows the economies and

14:58

shit There's no money coming in all

15:00

that kind of that's a problem. Yeah,

15:02

your tires are smooth, but you're working

15:04

in there with confidence. Listen yesterday I

15:06

had to go and Have a tire

15:09

because I had this fucking tire that

15:11

kept going flat. Yeah, and I thought

15:13

I gotta go and sort this out.

15:15

Yeah, so I woke up extra early

15:17

I was first in the queue there

15:19

go do adult things So all four

15:21

of my rooms were a little bit

15:23

buckled because of potholes, right? Of course.

15:25

Now, this is not a complaint. I'll

15:27

tell you how it was resolved. The

15:30

one had to be welded

15:32

again. Yeah. So all of

15:34

this stuff happened yesterday. But yes,

15:36

I was pleased when I got into that

15:38

car and I knew that they were always smooth.

15:40

And it only I know this one tire

15:42

would have cost what 8000 rand or whatever on

15:44

most cars these days. Tires are ridiculous. I

15:46

didn't have to replace any tires. It

15:48

only cost me 3 ,900 bucks. You didn't

15:50

have to replace the tires because you got

15:52

good tires in the first place. That's good,

15:54

right? Yes. That's incredible. I walked out

15:56

and I look, you don't want to be four grand

15:58

down on any given day, but I walked out

16:00

of there going, that's okay. I

16:02

can wear this one as well. Four

16:04

32. But when you were going in, expecting

16:07

32 grand and you come out four

16:09

grand, that's hallelujah. So

16:12

you talk about the smooth

16:14

tires, but I do find that

16:16

people also Especially in

16:18

the context you mentioned peace just

16:20

now. We do

16:22

have better lives now

16:24

than any of our

16:26

ancestors ever had. Imagine

16:28

shitting before toilets. Imagine...

16:31

a fat person, it's different.

16:34

It's squatting for me and squatting for

16:36

you. It's not the same thing.

16:38

It's not the same thing. Now I'm

16:40

fabulous. I slipped. I'm falling in

16:42

the caca. It's not. This

16:44

is not the same. It's

16:46

not the same thing. Imagine not having running water. And

16:48

I know this is a problem in some parts of

16:50

the country still to this day, believe it or not. And

16:53

I know that there are little

16:55

things like you consider that when you

16:57

go to a shop, you know,

16:59

again our ancestors they'd have to go

17:01

and hunt or they would have

17:03

had to grow shit a week two

17:05

weeks months before and hope that

17:07

it was ready in time and that

17:10

the winter didn't kill it and

17:12

that animals didn't come and get it

17:14

and these these things that we

17:16

I think we've become a bit soft

17:18

where we and again desperate housewives

17:20

are not at dig at you because

17:22

you've given us the entree to

17:24

talk about this yes yes thank you

17:26

it's It's easy to be

17:28

human now compared to any other time and

17:30

we've got lots of things that have made

17:32

us soft and now now the little thing.

17:35

You start your day use my

17:37

cable one fucking go into my

17:39

phone property fuck it's the wrong

17:41

cable on my days of disaster. I

17:44

know people like that I know people if

17:46

they get one red robot on the way

17:48

in the whole day screwed. So we talk

17:50

about the fact like the that's your your

17:52

choice you have the choice that red robot

17:54

you can leave it up to you and

17:56

I in the show the first version of

17:59

the show I spoke about the fact that

18:01

we drive every day until works roads you

18:03

know that there's a taxi going to cut

18:05

you off you know that somebody is going

18:07

to break in front of you and when

18:09

it happens we lose our damn minds we

18:11

would we swear the taxi driver here's facko

18:13

because he goes to sleep with the sound

18:15

of the quantum money back is busy you

18:18

know he doesn't he has nothing you so

18:20

frustrated because it makes you more angry that

18:22

he didn't look at you so you couldn't

18:24

swear at him and show him your frustration

18:26

and you drive with that anger and you

18:28

get to the office and you walk in

18:30

and the receptionist makes a joke with you

18:32

like the receptionist makes a joke with you

18:35

every day but because today you were cut

18:37

off by the tax you turn around and

18:39

you go footsack and you tell the receptionist

18:41

cuck and it changes our energy and the

18:43

next person who walks in gets that energy

18:45

from the receptionist it's just a cycle that

18:47

we're just creating more and more cuck Because

18:49

of a taxi driver that didn't even realize

18:51

you were there. He doesn't even know there's

18:54

other cars on the road. So Nick's favorite

18:56

comment is that that five percent rule. We

18:58

didn't make it up, but it's out there.

19:00

Life is five percent what happens. Ninety

19:02

five percent how you react. Yes.

19:05

Five percent what happened. Ninety five percent

19:07

how you react. Then you in charge

19:09

of how you react. But I do

19:11

feel like if we were back then

19:13

where it was Boskak vibes and you

19:15

found yourself a cave. and your cave

19:17

happened to be on a cliff with

19:19

like a long drop situation. I would

19:21

wake up every morning jealous of your

19:23

cave, because I'd see you fucking laughing.

19:25

So then I'm saying that it doesn't

19:27

matter how good it becomes. As long

19:29

as somebody has it soft to the

19:31

new, we suffer from that disease of

19:33

comparison. So it doesn't matter what time

19:35

of humanity you go back to. As

19:37

long as somebody was like, hey man,

19:39

why have I been wiping my arse

19:41

of cactus? Look at his arse of

19:43

grass. Look at how soft

19:45

Nicholas's arse is. In cactus. Then

19:48

somebody's like, it's the aloe vera properties.

19:50

Then you're like, no. It's

19:56

like that comparison. I think the history

19:58

of humanity has caused the same problem that

20:00

we're talking about right now. Okay, so

20:02

lots of people still giving me cuck about

20:04

paying my TV license. I did this

20:06

thing a while ago, which I didn't really,

20:09

I know. No, let me hear your story.

20:11

The audience always giving me cuck about

20:13

this because I admitted I

20:15

needed to buy. No, so my domestic

20:17

worker needed a TV. Yeah, and

20:19

I you can't buy one. So

20:22

I thought, well, okay, I'm also sick

20:24

of getting their emails and their fucking

20:26

phone calls. Yeah. So I said, let

20:28

me pay it, which I did. Total

20:30

waste of money, obviously, but I did it

20:32

and I admitted it on the show, which I

20:34

should never have done because now. I just

20:37

get the piss taken out of me every other

20:39

week. So Signet says, all because you paid

20:41

your TV license, it's the right thing to do.

20:44

I like you, but I'm

20:46

offended because I also

20:48

paid my TV license. Your

20:50

TV license it

20:52

possible. Do

20:55

you remember that old

20:57

TV license makes it

20:59

possible? That was, yeah, yes, is this

21:01

a mad stuff. Now we're old also. Judas

21:04

says joy, on the other hand, is a

21:06

more long lasting state of being characterized by a

21:08

contentment and satisfaction with life overall. OK, so

21:10

we can talk about a difference between joy and

21:12

happiness, which I think I indicated at the

21:14

beginning of this. But the thing I

21:16

wanted to get to as well is that

21:18

this idea of comparing yourself with how other

21:20

people are. And I see

21:22

so much of it every day.

21:24

And you can have all the

21:26

money or you can have all

21:28

the, I don't know, the good

21:31

looks, you could have all the opportunities

21:34

career -wise that you could ever wish

21:36

for. And there are lots of people

21:38

who have those things and they're still

21:41

unhappy, right? They still don't

21:43

know how to make themselves happy. They

21:45

sit looking miserable the whole time. They

21:47

don't really enjoy their lives when other

21:49

people come up and say, hey, how's

21:51

it going? They're moan about all the

21:53

cuck things. And I

21:55

think that's probably worse than

21:57

having nothing and being happy.

22:00

Like I almost And trust

22:02

me, there have been times in my

22:04

life where I fuck all and

22:06

fuck all to be happy about, but

22:08

I've been happy. And it's

22:10

almost like the decision to be happy comes

22:12

first. You said it just now,

22:14

and then after that, success in all the

22:16

other areas will come. Do you

22:18

think that's true or is that just

22:21

bullshit? I think it's absolutely true. One

22:24

of my greatest mentors in life, and I'm sure I've said

22:26

this to you before, is David

22:28

Kibuka. yeah who's a great South African

22:30

comedian still executive producer on the daily

22:32

show called David amazing and David once

22:34

said to me he said amen sometimes

22:36

life is very very simple sometimes if

22:38

you're not feeling like her and to

22:41

take away everything that you think you

22:43

need everything that you know we all

22:45

think he's gonna make us happy then

22:47

he said sometimes just do a stock

22:49

take off what you actually need right

22:51

now and then he said if you

22:53

just do a stock take off what

22:55

you actually need right now 99

22:58

times out of 100 times, you need nothing. Then

23:00

I said, hey, bro, explain this thing to me. Then

23:02

he said, okay, right now, now this is two

23:04

o 'clock in the morning after the comedy show, we're

23:06

sitting in a bar. He says to me, what do

23:08

you need right now? I said, well, I need

23:10

the petrol in my car and a battery that's working

23:12

to get home. He's like, check, I got that.

23:14

He's like, I need battery life on my phone. And

23:16

at the time, got that. He's like, you

23:18

need a drink. I said, I got a

23:21

drink. He said, well, what else do you

23:23

need? Right now, I said, I got good

23:25

conversation. I got a drink. I got away

23:27

home. I got ways for the police. I

23:30

actually sorted right this second happy. I don't

23:32

I don't need anything. Then he's like, it's

23:34

about managing your lens and knowing when you

23:36

must zoom all the way in and when

23:38

you must zoom all the way out. And

23:40

the more you can manage that that that

23:42

lens, the happier you're going to be. So

23:45

you've got to stay in focus, which makes

23:47

like sense if you try and think about

23:49

it in that way. But sometimes if you

23:51

too zoomed in, all you see is this

23:53

problem, then you've got to zoom out to

23:55

go. Actually, this cable is not

23:57

a problem. a

24:01

passport next to the cable. So now

24:03

this housewife's questions been answered to some degree

24:05

of accuracy here. the best we can

24:07

do. I saw such a

24:09

clever thing yesterday on the internet.

24:11

I will give credit to whoever sent

24:13

it to me once I look

24:15

it up. Is this guy, I think

24:17

he's a comedian or a preacher

24:19

because you can tell the difference these

24:21

days. And he goes up on

24:23

stage and he goes... My grandmother said

24:26

that there are only two kinds

24:28

of people. First kind of

24:30

people worry about what's going

24:32

to happen. Other kind of

24:34

people don't have problems. He

24:36

goes, only question you need

24:38

to ask yourself is, am I sick

24:40

or am I healthy? If

24:42

you're healthy. You don't have any problems. If

24:45

you're sick, there are two things you

24:47

need to worry about. You need

24:49

to answer this question. First one is, am

24:51

I going to get better? Or

24:53

am I going to get worse? If

24:55

you're going to get better, you don't have any problems. If

24:58

you're going to get worse, there are two kinds

25:00

of problems you have to answer. First

25:02

one, am I going to die? Am

25:04

I going to live? If you're going to live, you

25:07

don't have any problems. If you're going

25:09

to die, there are two kinds of problems

25:11

you have. First one am I going

25:13

to heaven or am I going to hell? So

25:15

you guys if you're going to heaven

25:17

you don't have any problems if you're

25:19

going to hell you have two kinds

25:21

of problems he goes original or extra

25:23

crispy I Love it so much. It's

25:26

so simple, but it's also in those

25:28

bits I find Absolute truth, and I

25:30

think that's why professors hate comedians. Yeah,

25:32

they do you're gonna write a whole

25:34

library of books. Yeah, the comedian is

25:36

gonna say You got two times of

25:38

pride. Exactly. I mean, that guy's just

25:40

sorted out everything. So now I'm going

25:42

to approach every decision in my life

25:44

from that point of view. Am I

25:46

sick? Am I healthy? Because again, I've

25:48

said this a million times on the

25:50

show and probably people are sick of

25:52

me saying it. But when you're sick,

25:56

when you said you picked up something over the

25:58

weekend, when you're sick, nothing

26:00

else matters. But

26:02

when you're healthy, you don't remember to

26:04

be grateful that you're healthy or that,

26:06

oh my God, I'm not sick. fact

26:08

and your life is just like oh

26:10

no add other problems to it yeah

26:12

but the thing is this is the

26:15

time to think about the overdraft you

26:17

know we speak often about the fact

26:19

that nobody teaches us how to look

26:21

for happiness how to even understand our

26:23

happiness and that I think is the

26:25

biggest problem is because there's no understanding

26:27

we have to find something to do

26:29

with our time, with our energy. And

26:31

that's why we start looking for the

26:33

small things that are giving us problems,

26:35

that are driving us crazy, so that

26:38

it gives us something to do. And

26:40

I feel like social media and just

26:42

media in general, perpetuates that story and

26:44

allows us to, it's trending to be

26:46

to have mental illness. I asked either

26:48

of you, I mean, you're

26:50

younger than I am, but you would have

26:52

been there for that very important nexus

26:54

where the real world and the virtual world

26:56

came at each other 50 -50. And you

26:59

see kids now who are growing up

27:01

70 % online. 70 % of

27:03

their personality, their character,

27:05

their avatar, the thing they

27:07

do is what's going

27:09

on online, right? So

27:11

these are problems that we can

27:13

talk about, but I'm really curious about

27:15

if you could go back to,

27:17

let's say, 2005,

27:21

2006, somewhere around there.

27:23

Just before it became

27:25

full -on. And

27:27

you could look up stuff on the internet. There

27:29

were short porn clips or whatever, but they

27:31

were... You had to use that modem that

27:33

went... No, I thought it took long to

27:35

load it. That would be Ola first before...

27:38

No, but you couldn't get the... You'd eventually

27:40

see the tits after like 10 minutes of

27:42

sitting... Yeah, you might warm yourself up again.

27:45

If you could go back to

27:47

then, knowing the amount of

27:49

mental health issues that would come...

27:51

Because I do, I

27:54

often say, and it's a problem,

27:56

because I don't think it's very

27:58

considerate or empathetic of me. But

28:00

there's this explosion of mental health

28:02

problems. Some of it is just

28:04

attention seeking, and it's become a

28:06

way to identify yourself if you have

28:08

no character. But there's another

28:10

part of it that is a very

28:12

real thing. If I were growing

28:14

up now, there's no guarantee

28:17

I'd be a reasonably balanced,

28:19

and I don't think I am,

28:21

but a reasonably balanced individual

28:23

who worries about actual things I

28:25

can do something about. and

28:27

doesn't get caught up in the shit

28:29

that I can't do anything about because

28:31

that's a big distinction. Yeah. And if

28:33

we could go back, I almost wonder

28:35

if you'd want to subject humanity to

28:38

having to see other people posting their

28:40

best lives on Instagram and making everyone

28:42

else feel cuck because that's what it

28:44

is. Ignorance is

28:46

blessed. I think it's

28:48

Chapelle who does a bet

28:51

about in 1998. You

28:53

could move 11 kilometers and start

28:55

a new life. You

28:58

know what I mean? We're

29:03

so tiny. So I

29:05

think it's information overload. I

29:07

think we have far

29:09

too much access from far

29:12

too early to far

29:14

too much, which we

29:16

already worry is I think people

29:18

that worry as humanity. then

29:20

I think it was Bo Bo who

29:22

said it so nicely was I would definitely

29:24

go back because he was like people

29:26

said you the interviewer goes you got a

29:28

very unique way of looking at life

29:30

and he said yes I'm okay and then

29:32

they go what does it mean and

29:34

he goes well I'm okay right now uh

29:36

because I don't have any problems right

29:39

now and then he said and then he

29:41

said and then he said no when

29:43

when problems come then I won't be okay

29:45

But I refuse to be one of

29:47

those people that's going to ruin my OK

29:49

right now because of possible problems that

29:51

might come. Now we have all of this

29:53

access to all of these problems that

29:55

we absolutely cannot solve. We're just knowing the

29:57

details of families in your street was

29:59

already too much. I'm talking about the 80s.

30:01

We just knew what is happening with

30:03

the neighbors because you could hear so and

30:05

so fighting. Already that was too

30:08

much because now are my parents also gonna

30:10

fight now. I've got access to all the

30:12

parents on earth Yeah, I mean here's an

30:14

example if you got that thing the Kanye

30:16

thing pop that on screen quickly Just look

30:18

at this. This is something we didn't need

30:20

to know Kanye West says he sucked his

30:22

cousin dick till he was 14 years old

30:24

This is what Kanye is telling us now

30:27

this guy obviously has serious problems, but you

30:29

know he's

30:31

in some ways like this guy

30:33

i'm surprised he took him so long

30:35

to tell us i want to

30:37

know been saving this one what did

30:39

he wait till what did it

30:41

happen till his cousin was 14 or

30:43

till he was because there's lots

30:45

wrong with all of the yeah it's

30:47

a very disturbing but but you

30:49

know what the funny thing is there's

30:51

like again 10 years ago that

30:53

would have been a headline for like

30:55

weeks yeah now i can promise

30:57

you by tomorrow no one gives two

30:59

shits about Kanye and his

31:01

cousin. Right, no one gave a shit today.

31:03

Like on the date came out, no

31:05

one gave you shit. We had time, did

31:07

you see that thing on April Fools,

31:09

where people were like, April Fools is ruined,

31:12

because actually you can't come up with

31:14

a prank, crazy it in the actual headlines

31:16

today. You know I mean? So

31:18

then people were like, oh, Kanye Sakti's guy, I

31:20

think he's like, I also went off MULKET 14.

31:22

He's scrolling, he keeps scrolling, you know what I

31:24

mean? You just keep moving, it's

31:26

terrible out, he tends to type. Well,

31:28

here's something that came up yesterday

31:30

that I thought was so funny when

31:32

I saw it, and then... last

31:34

night it was already expired, like the

31:36

milk that goes sour. So this

31:39

is two people were interviewed, they're twins.

31:42

There was an incident in Sydney.

31:44

Did you see this thing? Did

31:47

you see this story? So anybody who

31:50

hasn't, because I mean it did, it was expired

31:52

by last night. But when I found it

31:54

yesterday morning, I watched it three times. I could

31:56

not believe that this wasn't rehearsed. Yeah, it's

31:58

crazy. These twins, you've got

32:00

to see how these people They

32:03

finish each other's sentences, well, they

32:05

actually speak in parallel. They knock themselves

32:07

if they don't. It's

32:09

very weird. And I've

32:11

heard about how twins

32:13

are sometimes connected. Telepathically

32:15

connected. But there's something fucking weird going

32:17

on here. I promise you I watched this

32:19

three times. I could watch it again.

32:21

We're going to, for those who've seen

32:24

it already, by last night it was already old news,

32:26

but here it is. You got to watch this. This

32:29

is recounting some of the drama

32:31

that unfolded on the Sunshine Coast

32:33

this afternoon. Two sisters have told

32:35

how their mother and man raced

32:37

to help when the Karjakt SUV

32:39

rolled on Steve Irwin Way only

32:41

to find the gun -wielding car

32:43

thief emerging from the wreck. Here's

32:45

some of what they had to

32:47

say. And one guy,

32:49

he was up there with our

32:51

mum and he he went

32:53

up there and he was coming

32:55

back down towards us and

32:57

he goes run he's got a

32:59

gun and oh our heart

33:01

started to pound and i said

33:03

oh mum where's mum and

33:06

poor poor mum was stuck up

33:08

there but apparently our brave

33:10

mum she goes are you all

33:12

right because he had all

33:14

blood all over his face and

33:16

he goes i'll shoot you

33:18

she goes hey i'm here to

33:20

help A mum just started

33:22

getting to make him look the

33:24

other way and he looked

33:26

the other way and mum ran

33:28

into the bush behind the

33:30

fence and the guy goes to

33:32

her, I'll find you and

33:35

I'll shoot you. All I was

33:37

thinking about when we were

33:39

running, I hope he doesn't fire.

33:42

Yeah, we were so blessed. How close to

33:44

him do you think you were? We'll

33:47

see. there and we

33:49

were passed out when you drive away

33:51

yeah yeah you don't think of

33:53

all of that at the time no

33:55

you just run for your safety

33:57

for your life can I just say

33:59

like this so so firstly I

34:01

want to say I feel like the

34:03

story is twice as long as

34:05

it needs to be um because they're

34:07

both trying to to add and

34:09

finish and then also like like if

34:11

they they should start a band

34:14

and call it in sync What's

34:28

going on there? Seriously? Is that like

34:30

an episode of The Shining? I mean, I'm

34:32

not sure whether I've missed anything yet.

34:34

because first you think that they that they

34:36

acting because then the one you just

34:38

think the one is just watching like I

34:41

would dress the same but then they

34:43

take over mid -sentence and continue then they

34:45

change who's following and I'm going to shoot

34:47

you but I love the excitement when

34:49

they realize they're saying the same thing because

34:51

there are moments where the one is

34:53

excited and the other one says happy then

34:55

you're like it's the same thing same

34:57

tone yes same pace nubrat that is freaky

34:59

that the mother was trying to jump

35:01

in front of the gun to get away.

35:05

First of all, that mother

35:07

must be quite something

35:09

too. Patient woman. She

35:11

has nothing but a kind hearted

35:13

human. No one impatient woman.

35:15

I don't have time for two

35:17

stories. Combine everything. Maybe

35:19

she was hoping the guy would shoot her

35:21

so she could be rid of these children.

35:24

Exactly, that's what I'm saying. They're trying to

35:26

sacrifice herself. One bullet. I just don't understand.

35:28

I mean, this is the kind of thing

35:30

that I love about the internet. This is...

35:32

I love this because... We would never have

35:34

known about this. No, you would have heard

35:36

a story from someone and these twins and

35:38

they talk at the same time and you

35:41

would have thought... But here you see it

35:43

happening. No. There's

35:45

a small possibility, and I don't want

35:47

to ruin the fun I'm getting

35:49

out of that clip, by

35:51

trying to figure out whether they're putting it on or not,

35:53

because I want to believe it's real. I don't think

35:55

they're putting it on. I want to believe real. The more

35:57

I watch it, the more I do not think that

35:59

they are putting it on. And the

36:01

more impressed I am by it, actually, because

36:04

it's damn impressive. And it's because there's not

36:06

one leader. If one of them was just leading

36:08

and the other one was echoing, That's a

36:10

different story, but that's not what's going on there.

36:12

So Lisa is the one has a bad

36:14

signal. One is empty in the other cell. That's

36:17

hilarious. 3G and 5G. I'm

36:19

sure there's the nicknames. Oh,

36:21

that's so great. All

36:23

right. So there's another thing

36:26

I want you to see. There's

36:28

big noise being made and

36:30

people have got no patience for

36:32

the kind of PR stunt

36:34

bullshit that used to happen again,

36:36

10, 15 years ago, where

36:38

we were all Carolled

36:40

and forced to acknowledge something wonderful

36:42

and historic has happened when it

36:45

actually isn't historic or wonderful and

36:47

it's fucking stupid and we pay

36:49

zero attention to these days and

36:51

you can't pull this stuff anymore

36:53

You cannot do this and expect

36:55

to be taken seriously what I'm

36:57

talking about is the celebrity Fun

36:59

flight into the ionosphere or whatever

37:01

it was that Katy Perry and

37:03

Gale King and all these women

37:05

did so first thing is I

37:07

saw this very clever picture, someone

37:09

saying, unwanted Amazon delivery

37:12

gets returned from

37:14

space. Right with the picture of the capsule.

37:16

Funny. Yeah, there it is.

37:19

Okay. Amazon space returns.

37:21

Second one was a serious

37:23

feminist on a British

37:25

TV show complaining about how

37:27

the rocket looks like

37:30

a penis. But

37:32

she's. Deadly serious. She's got a

37:34

major problem with this. She agrees probably

37:36

with us that it was a stupid stunt

37:38

to do. The diners are just as

37:40

aerodynamic. Yeah, that's what she, this is

37:42

what she's going, this is what she's going at. So

37:44

here, and this interviewer too has created, I think

37:46

she's only on the phone, but you can guess what

37:48

she looks like. He's

37:52

trying, he's trying very

37:54

hard to take her seriously.

37:58

And here, this is the sort of shit we

38:00

have to listen to. And I

38:02

mean, I really thought that by now

38:04

we'd be over this cuck of like

38:06

feminism, first woman to do this first

38:08

all female crew in space. And

38:10

by the way, they weren't. Gail King

38:12

did not invent any part of that

38:15

rocket. Neither did Katy Perry. And

38:17

no scientific experiments were

38:19

done. As far as I

38:21

can tell, Jeff Bezos' girlfriend. I

38:24

don't know that she was

38:26

doing weightlessness testing of liquid

38:28

thermodynamics or whatever. This

38:30

was a complete fun rollercoaster ride and

38:32

they screamed the whole way up and screamed

38:34

the whole way down. As you would

38:36

expect teenage girls to do, nothing was learned.

38:39

Yeah, they went on a rollercoaster. The

38:41

slingshot. Yeah, and these girls have

38:43

embarrassed any girl who would want

38:45

to be an astronaut one day

38:47

because they don't need to see

38:49

Katy Perry to take astrophysics seriously.

38:51

No, but also they are female

38:53

astronauts that have got zero publicity

38:55

that have gone through years of

38:57

engineering and did done the work.

39:00

Jason, I was forced to go

39:02

and look into this because I

39:04

was so annoyed. Thank you. And

39:06

they were already all female crews

39:08

on board spaceships in the 60s

39:10

and you. OK. And we

39:12

don't know their names and nobody cares. But

39:14

suddenly we have to listen to the Czech

39:16

who sang firework and she gets off the

39:18

fucking thing and kisses the ground. It is

39:20

just outrageous. Anyway, here's the feminist on TV.

39:22

You got to see this first so you

39:24

can get a little bit annoyed and then

39:26

I'll make you laugh. Are we? That same

39:28

thing, I think, is the shape of the

39:30

rocket. It

39:33

was obviously phallic.

39:36

And I found it self

39:38

-indulgent and disgusting, quite honestly.

39:41

Is that? I mean, surely they

39:43

would work out the best shape

39:45

for space flight, Yvonne? It wouldn't

39:47

be all with that thought in

39:50

their head, otherwise it wouldn't work.

39:52

It wouldn't fly. I've

39:54

never seen a rocket shape like this

39:56

before. I mean, they're all kind

39:58

of phallic to a certain extent, aren't they?

40:01

This is especially phallic.

40:03

OK. Let's focus

40:05

on the crew. Were they crew

40:07

or were they passengers, Yvonne? They

40:09

were passengers. Why

40:13

are they not entitled to take

40:15

that flight and show to the world

40:17

that if you achieve in your

40:19

area that there is no limit to

40:21

where you can be and what

40:24

you can experience? The

40:26

celebs in their own right, in

40:28

their own spheres, but what

40:30

they were doing here

40:32

was just advertising this new

40:34

space travel. That's all

40:36

it was. Is that what we witnessed

40:38

is a huge PR photo opportunity? It

40:41

was, that's exactly what it was. And

40:43

I agree totally with the gentleman on

40:45

the panel. Okay, yeah, that's James. That's

40:47

James. You see our producer. Hello,

40:50

James. How are you, James? Yeah, well done, James.

40:52

You were the guy on the panel who said it

40:54

was just a photo op. Yeah, she can hear

40:56

you. Yeah, it was just there. It was a photo

40:58

op. She's very crusty that it wasn't a vagina

41:00

shaped rocket. Listen, a man heard that woman. A

41:03

man hurt her. And

41:05

I'm talking about long ago.

41:07

I want a horse. You

41:09

know I mean? A brown horse did something

41:11

to her in a carriage. And

41:14

she angry still. Till today, she does

41:16

not want to see her pee pee.

41:18

She gets mad. She

41:20

gets mad. But it does look

41:22

very much, his one looks

41:24

especially penis like. With the tiniest

41:26

balls on the bottom, there's

41:28

no children coming out of that

41:30

plane. It's very painful.

41:34

Okay, so here is the best edit I've seen

41:36

of all of this and then we will

41:38

leave it alone because I'm not that interested anymore.

41:40

I'm sure you guys aren't either. It is

41:42

funny though to see how it's exploded in everyone's

41:45

faces. It's funny that the

41:47

world goes, sit down guys, you just went

41:49

to space. No. Sit. Nobody cares. You

41:51

took a love to space. Now you kiss

41:53

the boy you liked it. You're kissing the

41:55

crown now. It's too much kissing. Nobody cares.

41:58

We don't care. We

42:00

don't care. Watch this. This will make

42:02

you happy. Great. Colonel.

42:12

You better take a look at this radar. What

42:15

is it, son? I don't

42:17

know, sir. But

42:21

it looks like a giant dick. Yeah.

42:23

Take a look at a

42:26

starboard. Oh my god, it looks

42:28

like a huge... Pekka! Oh,

42:30

wow. Wait, such little words,

42:32

Pekka, look like someone's... Privates! We

42:35

have reports of an unidentified flying

42:37

object! It is a

42:39

long, smooth shaft, complete with

42:41

two balls! What is that?

42:45

That looks just like an enormous wang. Pay

42:47

attention. I was distracted

42:49

by that enormous flying Willie.

42:52

Yeah, what's that? Well,

42:55

it looks like a

42:57

giant Johnson. Yes, sir get

42:59

on the horn to

43:01

British intelligence and let them

43:04

know about this And That's

43:28

screaming is unbelievable. All

43:30

right, so So

43:32

that that's that's from

43:34

I think you

43:36

said Austin Powers Thank

43:38

you Internet Thank

43:40

you. It's not all bad. All

43:44

right, so

43:47

do you

43:49

think we're

43:52

a happy

43:54

country? Because

43:57

this is something that's coming

43:59

up more and more. I posted

44:01

yesterday. I saw a

44:03

VAT increase came through on my Internet

44:05

at home, right? So

44:07

I took a screenshot and I said, thank

44:10

you very much, ANC, Herman Mashaba, everyone else.

44:12

But it is like, we have huge resilience

44:14

in this country. We take a lot of

44:16

shit. Yeah, I take a lot of shit.

44:18

And I think we do have a sense

44:20

of humor. We are happy, which is why

44:22

we like to laugh. I mean, again, you

44:24

can have fuck all and you can still

44:26

laugh and see people and laugh it yourself.

44:29

Yeah, it was a check at the tire

44:31

place when I was having it. Don't

44:37

I'm not a cluster fuck I'm

44:39

a cluster bomb, but that's because

44:41

I'm the one who threw it

44:43

or something. Let's check and she's

44:45

sitting there like she's having a

44:47

lack of time She was laughing

44:49

the whole time eating a sandwich

44:51

nine in the morning She's she

44:53

didn't have problems for that moment.

44:55

She was like her that thing

44:57

you said earlier about the You

44:59

can have everything and be miserable

45:02

and see somebody with nothing who is just grateful

45:04

and happy. I think that's what South Africans

45:06

are. I think we are, we know

45:08

what we could have. We know we don't

45:10

have it. We also know why we don't

45:12

have it. And we also know that no

45:14

one's coming to save us. So we might

45:16

as well just have a good time and

45:18

enjoy today. And I, so I always like

45:21

say to people that South Africans are my

45:23

favorite people on earth. Like, yes, this is

45:25

my favorite country, but not because of Table

45:27

Mountain and the Underberg. It's my favorite country

45:29

because our people are so robust

45:31

and that perspective that we are

45:33

able to have first world people collapse

45:35

at every possible opportunity they moan

45:37

they complain South Africans get on with

45:39

it 99 % of us just to

45:41

get to work to explain that

45:43

to somebody who lives in the first

45:45

world just to get to work

45:47

you live in orange farm you woke

45:49

up at four o 'clock you walked

45:51

five kilometers to catch a bus

45:53

through load shading through you know what

45:55

i mean yeah it's like and

45:58

then that person arrives jovial Also, that

46:00

person arrives 10 minutes late to

46:02

somebody in Houston and goes, oh my

46:04

god, Mavis, every day in late! You

46:06

know what I mean? Oh my god!

46:09

Mavis still carries on, sir, madam! Carries

46:11

on, pushes through! We are the

46:13

best damn country on earth. And both

46:15

of those people laugh in the

46:17

audience. Both of those people come

46:19

to the show, both of those people laugh.

46:21

And that's the beauty about South Africa. We're

46:24

the best. So basically, don't

46:26

worry about it. It's

46:29

fine. You know the

46:31

dog in the kitchen with the flames, this is fine.

46:33

We'll be fine. Keep

46:36

flipping the burgers. I

46:38

feel like we've just been

46:40

trained. In the army they

46:42

train you to fight when you go and fight,

46:44

that's what you do. So with us I

46:46

feel like we've been trained to just laugh and

46:48

in any situation it was going on. We

46:50

laugh about it, we joke about it and we

46:53

carry on. I think as

46:55

a good and bad side because yes

46:57

it keeps us going keeps us happy

46:59

as a people but at the same

47:01

time I feel like it allows people

47:03

to take advantage of the fact that

47:05

in the first world when they don't

47:07

like things everybody stops the whole country

47:09

comes to a standstill because we need

47:11

to fix the shit of the vet

47:14

increase the whole country goes and marches

47:16

whereas here We rather want to get

47:18

the most retweets or trending on things

47:20

because our comment about the VAT increase

47:22

is the funniest for the day. And

47:24

I think that's the thing that hurts

47:26

me is that, yes, we

47:28

are funny, beautiful people, but I feel

47:30

like we are taken advantage of

47:32

because we are too nice. No, that's

47:35

true. I also think that that's

47:37

the whole world. gift

47:40

of being South African at the moment

47:42

is realizing that we are not alone. He's

47:44

looking at the greatest powerhouse in the

47:46

world, the USA, under Donald Trump. Then I'm

47:49

like, you can throw similarities between Trump

47:51

and some of our recent presidents very easy.

47:53

You don't have to look far. You

47:55

don't have to look far. You know what

47:57

I mean? When you see a person

47:59

that's doing that's doing wild and wild and

48:01

crazy stuff. And I also feel like

48:04

we we at the same token have more

48:06

rights than a lot of those countries.

48:08

So like Anyway in the

48:10

first world brah, you can't raise

48:12

your voice at a police officer.

48:14

You can't you can't you

48:16

can't be arguing So yes, we

48:19

have we have cases where we

48:21

are absolutely taken advantage of but

48:23

at the same time if a

48:25

metro cop pulls me up for

48:27

no reason I can give it

48:29

guy your fool I'm always like,

48:32

you know rich you have to

48:34

be to shout at a policeman

48:36

in the world outside of Africa. You

48:39

know I mean? So it's also this, this

48:41

like, this, this, this give and take. And

48:43

I think that's why we fight. We also

48:45

used to it. And for perspective, please

48:48

don't compare us to any first

48:50

world country, but compare us

48:52

to any third world country that you'd like. And

48:54

I'm always trying to say that if you're going

48:56

to compare us to first world countries, of course

48:58

you're going to feel shit, but go anywhere on

49:00

the continent. You're going to love this place anyway. Belly

49:03

Vocal Media says, so true, we

49:05

are like cockroaches, which is probably

49:07

right. And I'm okay with

49:09

that. I'm with that. Carl from

49:11

PE says, as a South African, we

49:13

know happiness is just the double

49:15

brand in Cocoa Way. My man, you

49:17

could not have said that thing

49:19

better. Ricky Lou, a double brand. It

49:21

good. Look, a ramen cook guy.

49:24

I'm converted. I'm actually by now. I'm

49:26

bi, a rum and a brandy

49:28

guy. From rum or to rum? So

49:30

I've been, been rum guys forever,

49:32

right? And a proper But don't you

49:34

find like you smell of rum and raisin ice

49:36

cream for a week after? I don't smell it

49:38

myself. Eventually it's asked for those around me to

49:40

deal it. That's not a bad, it's not the

49:42

worst smell. No, the mood, the mood, the thing

49:44

smells good, the thing tastes good, that's game, that's

49:46

foam. And also rum

49:48

makes you very much in love. It

49:51

makes you love everybody. Just in a good

49:53

mood, good vibe. So what do you find brandy

49:55

makes you aggressive? I'm finding that as I'm

49:57

getting older now, a good brannas, I get it.

50:00

Like, so I'm both. That's what I'm saying at the moment. I

50:02

have different occasions. Sometimes I want

50:04

to, but a good, you know, I

50:06

don't know you guys are rum

50:08

drinkers. no, no. Old school, the cheap

50:10

one. Yeah. okay

50:15

i didn't know that but i think

50:17

it's delicious i know but we also i

50:19

went through the the phase of pretending

50:21

where i was drinking single malts and you

50:23

know because everybody at the table was

50:25

drinking single malts then you just get to

50:27

an age you realize but this thing

50:29

don't taste nice i want stuff that time

50:31

you take you rum tastes nice and

50:33

if you think rum don't taste nice firstly

50:35

you didn't have the proper pour And

50:37

secondly, I was at a bribe the other day for

50:40

Donovan's birthday. And all of these fancy people

50:42

were there and they came with all their fancy things. You

50:45

know those, you know that where people show you the

50:47

bottle like this to see the numbers, they have the bottle.

50:50

And literally, Don will tell

50:52

you, three hours in, somebody

50:55

says, hey man, who's Ram

50:57

is that? Then I go,

50:59

you want a Ram? By the end of the

51:01

day, not only is everybody drinking Ram, but

51:03

people are so... Yes. So

51:05

we're getting closer to defining happiness. It

51:07

involves alcohol, not comparing yourself to

51:09

other people. Come on. Yes. And being

51:11

happy with what you've got rather

51:13

than unhappy about what you have. I

51:15

think it'll just take a little

51:17

bit of time. Listen guys, we may

51:20

solve all the world's problems in

51:22

one show this morning. This is fucking

51:24

amazing. I'm enjoying this a lot. do you

51:26

do after this? Just back up

51:28

buttercups and fucking smile says Lee.

51:30

She's very hardcore Lee. I think it's

51:32

toxic positivity, right? Did we discover

51:34

that Lee is a guy the other

51:36

day? Lee is a guy

51:39

who doesn't cry. No woman would talk like

51:41

this. Just back up buttercups and fucking

51:43

smile. Trust me, life could have been worse

51:45

always and it's not really that bad.

51:47

Yes, it could have been worse, Lee. It

51:49

could have. It can always be worse.

51:51

It doesn't mean you have to accept just

51:53

way. you are as a thing like

51:55

you can still go this is kak i

51:57

want to move and be better and

51:59

expect more happiness gareth is allowed to feel

52:02

what gareth is feeling today that's one

52:04

of the biggest things that i'm learning that

52:06

bad in full capital yeah and also

52:08

if i got running stomach don't tell me

52:10

to pack up you don't know my

52:12

life you know nothing about what i'm going

52:14

through is a woman you know nothing

52:16

about what i'm going through okay sorry li

52:18

Guys, you could have said Lee's spelled

52:20

L -I -E -L -E -I -G -A -T. Then we would

52:22

have known. Then we would have known

52:25

that it's woman. He is a woman. Do

52:27

you remember Julia saying that? You

52:30

couldn't fuck that up more. Sorry,

52:32

Lee. Love is why the Caribbean

52:34

is so jolly. That's probably true,

52:36

but it's also nice where the

52:38

islands... Lucy. Can we also

52:40

Can I just advise Lee? Can

52:42

I just advise Lee not to

52:45

carry that energy into the rest

52:47

of the day? Just go and find

52:49

something to smile about. I am

52:51

a woman! am a woman! Now

52:53

I was going to go fuck

52:55

everyone up at the office. I'm actually

52:57

on your team because I know

52:59

that you said that thing with

53:01

good intention and you didn't mean it

53:04

as like the toxic thing. I

53:06

just used you as an example

53:08

but that attitude for yourself is

53:10

absolutely it but it's expecting that attitude

53:12

from other people which will deteriorate

53:14

because I noticed you used... marks

53:16

yeah my pillow says who just

53:18

farted no my pillow I made the

53:20

noise I made the noise when

53:22

Jason was talking about it I

53:24

went it's not okay to ask those

53:27

of this show James you want

53:29

to do a smell test Now

53:31

James would have been able to

53:33

smell it from there, but I would

53:35

have heard you James has David

53:37

orders. He's not gonna say nothing Oh

53:40

Carl says few things are worse

53:42

than a post rum cuck It's horrific

53:44

many toilets have been destroyed. No,

53:46

but I think you it's the never

53:48

-ending story because you'll wipe it and

53:50

then you'll keep wiping No.

53:56

Like tar and glue can't

53:59

bind. Oh you are a

54:01

wife. You must respect yourself. You must

54:03

respect yourself. So you can't just tell her

54:05

you must check what your plans are tomorrow. You

54:07

know what I mean? Where are you going to be? You

54:09

don't want to end up like in an airport bathroom with a

54:11

rum cock. No. Aeroplane, not today.

54:14

And it's two -ply life or

54:16

no life. You don't want to

54:18

be munching newspaper and rum. Shit,

54:21

have no idea. The A port toilet

54:23

paper, your finger always goes straight through. No

54:26

matter how many times you, you can

54:28

two -ply yourself. That's

54:30

unbelievable. You learn something new

54:32

every day. Carl says that

54:34

FART took me back today, one

54:36

of Cliff Central with Gareth Broadcast,

54:38

the first on -air FART. Well, the

54:41

first one that we set, we did

54:43

a whole, we set up microphones and

54:45

everything. And did you have like a

54:47

professional come through or did you have a professional? We had

54:49

a professional FART here. Who was it? I can't remember. I

54:52

don't remember. But I watched the

54:54

thing yesterday of a bra fight thing

54:56

and I was like, surely you

54:58

can't just how do you store the

55:00

pooper inside? There's a guy called

55:02

Mr. Methane. Yeah. Who's a professional. Always

55:04

has one on board. He's a

55:06

professional performer. He farts

55:08

actual songs. He

55:10

can tune his asshole to go. How

55:17

do you discover that's your thing? How

55:21

do you discover that's gonna be my...

55:23

You know, because everybody wants something different.

55:26

You want to be... I think it's one of

55:28

those things that for the first half of his

55:30

life he probably thought everybody can see. We

55:34

just don't talk about

55:36

everybody. He's a very talented

55:38

guy. What can we say? That is what sugar

55:40

cane will do to you. Drink brandy to

55:42

block you up. Okay, so

55:44

I'm very I'm always amazed at

55:46

how despite my best attempts to keep

55:48

things Like interesting and sometimes a

55:51

little cerebral it always goes to cucking

55:53

and toilets and fucks always takes

55:55

five seconds and a show deteriorates I

55:57

love it so much and then

55:59

people come at me and they're like

56:01

toilet you may so believe beneath

56:03

you We know you're a person then

56:05

I say I've paid off my

56:08

first house with diarrhea jokes. Like you

56:10

don't know me. But also, who

56:12

are those people because what are they

56:14

going to pretend that they don't

56:16

find that stuff funny? They don't even

56:18

have a pupil. They just smooth

56:20

down there. They never fart when they

56:22

do fart. It smells like fucking.

56:24

And they are disgusting when someone else

56:27

does. And those are the same

56:29

people that gag for the smell of

56:31

their own cock. I'm telling you.

56:33

You know, you can't. You can't for

56:35

the smell of your own. understand how potion. Now,

56:39

I really think that the other day

56:41

that said, if you don't find farts

56:43

funny, you have a problem because you

56:45

are choosing to love with less joy

56:47

in your life. Yes. The same number

56:49

of farts. Now, exactly. Now,

56:52

I've just been choosing. That's

56:54

such a good, that's maths. You can't argue

56:57

with the maths. So here's

56:59

some, I don't know how old this clip is, but

57:01

here's a woman on the news who does fart. I

57:04

don't know if you've seen this one. You know

57:06

this one. OK, look. A woman on the news. Yeah,

57:08

on the news. Watch this. In the Eastern Cape

57:10

or something. Okay,

57:13

let's go. I

57:26

love that she denied

57:28

it. She denied it

57:30

as well after apologizing.

57:32

But she kind of,

57:34

the brain first... my

57:40

mother out here. My mother's one of those

57:42

fighters that she has to stop everything she's

57:44

doing. She can't multi poop. Like she can't

57:46

do something and poop. So she's walking in

57:49

the mall and you see her stop. She's

57:51

having a bit of a poop. She's talking

57:53

to you. stops there's

57:55

a poop happening and i like

57:57

that woman's english airtime was like

57:59

we can't english and fart on

58:01

the same time because yeah we'd

58:03

like to... oh my god that's

58:05

amazing oh the only thing they

58:08

thought of it that day is

58:10

if she pulled the mask up

58:12

herself just go study oh my

58:14

god uh here's a woman who

58:16

at a wedding now they i

58:18

think they're filming the first dance

58:20

or whatever but the one bridesmaid

58:22

yes She's substantial.

58:25

Oh, yes. And you remember when Plantele

58:27

Nene was the governor of the

58:30

Reserve Bank or minister of finance or

58:32

something and he was interviewed on

58:34

SABC in that chair. It's one of

58:36

the greatest moments in TV. It's

58:38

so great. It's the crack, crack fear

58:40

in face, full collapse. Oh, so

58:43

good. And I think it was S

58:45

.A .B .C. too, so it was embarrassing

58:47

for them forevermore So

58:49

nice. You know, the finance minister, your

58:51

chairs are so cock and cheap. Yeah.

58:54

Pay your TV license. It's the right

58:56

thing to do. No, but I blame

58:58

him as a big boy. There's no

59:01

plastic chair, my friend. Don't trust any

59:03

plastic chair. Well, here's a wedding situation,

59:05

which was just as embarrassing, even though

59:07

she's not a minister of finance. Have

59:09

a look. I begin

59:11

to pass out. Then

59:14

my head hit the

59:16

wall, but I had a

59:18

praying grandmother Timing's good,

59:20

right? I think they put

59:22

the song in I

59:24

feel like it's put in

59:26

the song and that's

59:28

really having a speech. Isn't

59:30

that lovely? Oh

59:36

That's so good. I'm so sorry

59:38

young lady it's so embarrassing and i'm

59:40

sure she also said guys are these

59:42

chairs because i've seen you at parties

59:44

i've seen jay look at a chair

59:46

and go you know i'm rather

59:48

gonna stand no those plastic garden chairs

59:50

very day and on the tile and

59:52

it'll listen you'll get hurt hey no

59:54

then you can hurt you badly the

59:57

shop I don't even sit on a

59:59

camping chair you come to the

1:00:01

camping chair with the no -name friend my

1:00:03

friend no no no be aware

1:00:05

132 on a good day on a

1:00:07

good day. Now you're coming with macro. You

1:00:10

don't know me. You do not know

1:00:12

me. The

1:00:14

internet is funny. So here's

1:00:17

a fat woman talking about

1:00:19

something just delightful because we

1:00:21

got onto the toilet humor.

1:00:24

So this is about as far

1:00:26

as I'm prepared to go and

1:00:28

no further. And she's talking about

1:00:30

diapers. Oh, this

1:00:32

is just delightful. This is when

1:00:34

you've given up on life.

1:00:36

It's when you surrendered. Yeah. Yeah.

1:00:38

Now you whatever. Lord,

1:00:41

take me wherever you want to take. Yeah. Yeah.

1:00:43

I'm going to just take

1:00:46

a shade. I feel myself 15

1:00:48

times a day. You

1:00:50

wear a diaper? No, because

1:00:52

don't like them to fit us. Don't

1:00:54

want the guy to touch my

1:00:56

butt and feel a diaper. That

1:00:59

little noise. I'm talking

1:01:01

about cloth offers. Megan

1:01:04

and Vanessa playfully joked that the world

1:01:06

needs to create a special kind of

1:01:08

diaper designed for plus sized individuals. One

1:01:10

that is not only functional, but also

1:01:12

sexy and comfortable. Wow.

1:01:15

Sorry, they used the word

1:01:17

sexy. They used the word

1:01:19

sexy for an adult nappy. I'm

1:01:23

not sure that news report

1:01:25

is an honest person. i

1:01:27

did the first this is he said

1:01:29

15 times a day she pees on

1:01:32

herself then she said then she said

1:01:34

do we're napping no because i don't

1:01:36

want the guy to feel yeah on

1:01:38

a bike while he craps her butt

1:01:40

just peeing no but i'm also who's

1:01:42

this guy who wants

1:01:44

to touch this brave soul this

1:01:47

unrecognized unsung hero that is going when

1:01:49

no man has gone before you

1:01:51

know I mean that's better than a

1:01:53

blue origin trip let me tell

1:01:55

you that guy deserves some fucking credit

1:01:57

every time he's finished with her

1:01:59

every time he's finished with her he

1:02:01

kissed the ground we'll all be

1:02:04

there to clap him on the same

1:02:06

type of jet propulsion is required

1:02:08

to get yeah you go captain

1:02:10

america oh baby you always wet no

1:02:12

i peed 15 times i mean so we

1:02:14

got the pico we're i think it's

1:02:16

just gravity it just gets absorbed reabsorbed into

1:02:18

the body the same pee for 25

1:02:20

years i'm a big boy right i've always

1:02:22

been a big boy i make jokes

1:02:24

about being a big boy and and I

1:02:26

and I get it so I defend

1:02:29

people I hate people who say just stop

1:02:31

eating you don't get it it's the

1:02:33

same as you don't get depression yeah all

1:02:35

of that or smoking or gambling I

1:02:37

am I am gonna say that when

1:02:39

you get to a point in your

1:02:41

life where you no longer have control

1:02:43

of your bodily functions and you're still

1:02:45

within the age range of somebody who

1:02:47

can gain control of their bodily functions

1:02:49

at that point ask someone to ask

1:02:51

someone for help because sometimes you can't

1:02:53

ask yourself sometimes there's a block sometimes

1:02:55

there's whatever but but ask some tell

1:02:57

somebody i peed 15 times today i

1:02:59

still want to be sexy haven't gone

1:03:01

to the toilet i need nappies like

1:03:04

i'm i'm serious there's like at at

1:03:06

some point your life is not joyous

1:03:08

to pee on yourself 15 times a

1:03:10

day do you think those the best

1:03:12

friend her best friend the sister whatever

1:03:14

the two of them are motivating each

1:03:16

other to go no it's okay you

1:03:18

fine you find well the ones got

1:03:20

an oxygen thing the whole in

1:03:22

in the nose the whole time she's got

1:03:24

the oxygen thing in. I

1:03:26

don't know people use around yourself. I

1:03:29

do blame again the attention

1:03:31

economy. And of course,

1:03:33

these people are personally responsible

1:03:35

for their own. Today

1:03:37

lives bodily risk, you know,

1:03:39

functions and all this. But

1:03:42

there's something about television. We just

1:03:44

it's got so disgusting. It's like

1:03:46

the TV used to be. You'd

1:03:49

see the most brilliant, most

1:03:51

talented, most interesting people, like

1:03:53

David Attenborough talking about some ho -ho that

1:03:55

you didn't know about in the Amazon. And

1:03:58

it would be mind -blowing that this

1:04:00

thing could shoot a little blue stream

1:04:02

of something and kill a little bug

1:04:04

and then it would fall and eat

1:04:06

it. And you'd learn

1:04:08

something. Now, unfortunately, post -Reality

1:04:11

TV, which we've all

1:04:13

been in, right? Maybe

1:04:15

we bear some responsibility for this. Now

1:04:17

they make a show where

1:04:19

they basically just humiliate people like

1:04:21

those two ladies in that

1:04:24

clip. That's humiliation. And they buy

1:04:26

into it because they're going to get attention.

1:04:28

They might get a bit of money. Some

1:04:30

sponsor. Now there's going to be an adult

1:04:32

nappy company that makes something for them from

1:04:34

that clip. They will be. Always.

1:04:37

Because it's about branding and making money. There's

1:04:39

a lot of billboard space to cover

1:04:42

there too. So you get an awareness. Yup,

1:04:44

sexy nappy. bringing bringing back you know

1:04:46

that beige that beige color underwear that's the

1:04:48

color you got to go with that

1:04:50

dark brown that's all they make right you

1:04:52

got to go with brown color brown

1:04:54

like the same as the red jackets you

1:04:56

got to go with a brown one

1:04:59

otherwise it's not sexy you got to go

1:05:01

brown um you got you got and

1:05:03

there's no but you could also you could

1:05:05

also like g -string color coloring for the

1:05:07

shape I don't know. I'm confused by

1:05:09

that. The whole statement. I appear myself 15

1:05:11

times a day. I don't even know

1:05:13

if it's because I don't make him sexy.

1:05:15

Are you guys worried about AI and

1:05:18

comedy? I don't

1:05:20

think I'm worried about

1:05:22

it. I think that

1:05:24

naturally AI will play a big

1:05:26

role in comedy, where they'd be

1:05:28

script writing, where they'd be even

1:05:30

online, on TV, like they could

1:05:32

make... ever does of Jason and I

1:05:34

doing the show. We don't have to do

1:05:36

this show. For example, I

1:05:39

know I've already got people working

1:05:41

on this. James, look out. Flex,

1:05:43

look out. Our jobs are on

1:05:45

the line where because there are

1:05:47

enough audio recordings of me and

1:05:49

even video, you could put a

1:05:51

show together, make it look like

1:05:53

it's a live show. Yeah. And

1:05:57

i didn't even come to work that day they

1:05:59

can even but you so i don't know

1:06:01

i don't know whether the audience even know i

1:06:03

don't know if you would be able to

1:06:05

tell most whether it's me or not i so

1:06:07

you know i do a lot of corporate

1:06:09

comedy right i'm seeing it corporate that's that's my

1:06:11

job sure and i saw a slide two

1:06:13

years ago cuz we mean corporates you watch the

1:06:15

seasons like few years ago five years ago

1:06:18

we're talking about fourth industrial revolution at every single

1:06:20

conference you went to now every conference you

1:06:22

go to they're talking about ai. Then I saw

1:06:24

a slide that stuck in my mind and

1:06:26

the slide said, AI is

1:06:28

not coming to take your job.

1:06:31

People who embrace AI are coming

1:06:33

to take your job. Then

1:06:35

I was like, okay, I really like

1:06:37

that slide. Then I spoke to AI people and you know,

1:06:39

asked me like to be foolish. And I said, is

1:06:42

this thing skynet? Is it going to wake

1:06:44

up one day and take over? Then they

1:06:46

said, no, AI is the knife

1:06:48

in the drawer. Then I said, okay, what

1:06:50

does that mean? Then there's another knife in

1:06:52

the drawer is neither good nor bad. the

1:06:54

person operating the knife will instruct the knife

1:06:56

to do a good thing or a bad

1:06:58

thing can be used as a tool can

1:07:00

be used as a weapon AI is exactly

1:07:02

the same it's got no feelings but the

1:07:04

person instructing the AI or wielding the AI

1:07:06

will do they're not like okay but at

1:07:08

least comedy it needs that personal touch then

1:07:10

true story three weeks ago i'm hosting like

1:07:13

this this this thing where they go uh

1:07:15

we're doing a tour of Joburg we want

1:07:17

you on one of those red buses we're

1:07:19

gonna put a PA Nice PA in for

1:07:21

you. And we're going to go from point

1:07:23

A to point B, a celebration of Joe

1:07:25

Berg. I want you to comedically tour guide.

1:07:27

I'm not a tour guide. You know what

1:07:29

I mean? I love Joe Berg, but I'm

1:07:31

not a tour guide. So I go, yo,

1:07:33

TechGPT, I want you to

1:07:35

act as a comedic tour guide.

1:07:38

I'm going from point A to

1:07:40

point B, and I want you

1:07:42

to write a script for me

1:07:44

to comedically tour guide people. Was

1:07:47

TechGPT not hilarious? A

1:07:49

really good chat GPT opens with

1:07:51

welcome to 44 Stanley where hipsters

1:07:53

gather and coffee is the only

1:07:55

thing more expensive than petrol Then

1:07:57

I was like first I thought

1:07:59

this thing will never make humor

1:08:02

because funny then It's gonna get

1:08:04

to a point where I can

1:08:06

sit in a room look around

1:08:08

identify things about people make jokes

1:08:10

about those people It's a really

1:08:12

good point where it can assimilate

1:08:14

Gareth based on what it knows

1:08:17

about Gareth. Very soon it's going

1:08:19

to get to a point where

1:08:21

it can look at a room

1:08:23

and tell me things that it

1:08:25

knows based on because I know

1:08:27

and what gave me the advantage

1:08:29

was and Nick the advantage of

1:08:32

we've been comedians for 14 years.

1:08:34

We've been in so many different

1:08:36

environments. We've had so many different

1:08:38

permutations of audiences. ChatGPT

1:08:40

has watched every single comedy show that's ever

1:08:42

been recorded in the history of the internet.

1:08:47

information with billions of

1:08:49

times more experience than

1:08:51

me. So is it

1:08:53

a threat to stand -up comedy? I

1:08:55

think absolutely, but I

1:08:57

think it's a threat to those who

1:08:59

are not going to embrace it. You

1:09:02

know what I mean? Because the

1:09:04

thing is already funny. That

1:09:06

should terrify us. It's 2025, computers

1:09:09

are funny. It's the end of the world. It

1:09:12

always reminds me of the

1:09:14

discussion that we used to have

1:09:16

about automatic gearboxes. Yes. And

1:09:18

now, automatic, are you even really

1:09:20

driving if it's automatic? And

1:09:23

now... the standard. You

1:09:25

cannot change better than an automatic

1:09:27

gearbox. We never believed that an automatic

1:09:29

gearbox would be as great as

1:09:31

it is today. So I think it

1:09:33

would be ignorant to believe that

1:09:36

AI is not going to differ. are

1:09:38

probably still some people somewhere who

1:09:40

think that lawn mowers can't actually have

1:09:42

an engine. They must be those

1:09:44

ones that talking about. There's

1:09:46

some people who think

1:09:48

that electric cars aren't real

1:09:50

cars. I know people

1:09:52

like this. Proper petrolheads. I

1:09:55

love them. They love cars. They will not

1:09:57

settle for anything electric. They must not drive

1:09:59

it. It's bullshit. Because it will hurt their

1:10:01

brains. And there's still

1:10:03

people who go, ah, the TV is the

1:10:05

devil. You can't turn that thing on. It'll bring

1:10:07

the devil into your house. There

1:10:09

are lots of people who

1:10:11

construct these artificial rules to

1:10:13

keep themselves... People who

1:10:15

don't adapt and change get forgotten first. It

1:10:17

is the saddest the saddest thing at

1:10:20

the moment You just got to be so

1:10:22

open so fluid And you got to

1:10:24

go with it you you spoke earlier about

1:10:26

kids 70 % of their lives are online

1:10:28

Then I this I don't have kids

1:10:30

either speak argument with somebody who has kids

1:10:32

and that person said such an interesting

1:10:34

sentence They said you see what you trying

1:10:36

to do is force me to raise

1:10:38

my kids to fight the battles. I had

1:10:40

to fight I'm trying to raise my

1:10:42

kids to live in the world that they've

1:10:44

got to live in, fight the battles

1:10:47

that they're gonna face. And then

1:10:49

I was like, ah, yeah, you're absolutely right. I

1:10:51

didn't think about it like that. I want kids

1:10:53

to be on bicycles in the streets, knowing how

1:10:55

to fight because where we grew up, you couldn't

1:10:57

talk about me because if you spoke about me,

1:10:59

I was coming to your house and I was

1:11:01

in the heat in front of your father. Now

1:11:03

you can say Jason's a fantastic on the internet

1:11:05

and I can't do anything. It's crazy

1:11:07

the difference that we live in. Natalie

1:11:10

says, I'm an ex -print editor.

1:11:12

My job has just become redundant.

1:11:14

I hate AI. If

1:11:17

you print some adult

1:11:20

nappies with your brand,

1:11:23

we've got a place for you. We've

1:11:27

got lots of space for words on those.

1:11:29

Lots of space for branding. Oh, it's

1:11:31

such a funny thing. The other day

1:11:33

I was, again, I use chat GPT

1:11:35

all the fucking time now. And I'm

1:11:37

almost embarrassed that I, I feel like

1:11:39

I'm getting dumber, but it's smarter to

1:11:41

use that thing to do the research. So

1:11:44

much better than you have. It's so

1:11:46

good. Listen, I remember having to read tons

1:11:48

and tons of material to make up

1:11:50

my mind about something, figure out how to

1:11:52

do some. This was, there's

1:11:54

this piece of land where we don't

1:11:56

want anything to grow on it. So

1:11:59

I thought, well, The

1:12:01

ancient Romans used to salt the earth.

1:12:04

You know, if they conquered a city like Carthage,

1:12:06

they'd poison the wells and they'd salt the earth

1:12:08

so nothing could grow there for a thousand years. So

1:12:11

I asked ChatGPT, does salting the

1:12:13

earth really work? I came

1:12:15

up with a couple of paragraphs. Here

1:12:18

are some better things to use. I

1:12:20

mean, names of poisons I couldn't pronounce. That

1:12:24

to me is a much better use of

1:12:26

my time. Then to

1:12:28

spend hours and hours googling

1:12:30

different kinds of things again,

1:12:32

bro. I mean you don't

1:12:34

pretend that it isn't better

1:12:36

to just do that. It

1:12:38

also makes it better for

1:12:40

what you're doing. I'm saying

1:12:42

if you incorporate AI into what

1:12:44

you're doing, it makes your show better

1:12:46

than if you didn't incorporate AI.

1:12:49

into what you're doing it makes your

1:12:51

research more thorough it just makes

1:12:53

it better it's the same as you

1:12:55

know what you're gonna do it's

1:12:57

the same you've got to take a

1:12:59

photograph of the audience without them

1:13:01

knowing before you start a show yeah

1:13:03

then ask ai to research all

1:13:05

these people yesess you'll come up with

1:13:07

some unbelievable stuff and they'll all

1:13:09

think you're psychic off the cuff imagine

1:13:11

oh you're going through a divorce

1:13:13

hey denny nice to see you I

1:13:18

heard you're getting

1:13:20

divorced, yeah. You're

1:13:22

400 ,000 random

1:13:24

overdraft, Michelle. How's it

1:13:26

going? But you've got to go

1:13:28

away from your problems. Just imagine

1:13:30

what that could do. I mean,

1:13:33

with facial recognition and... Isn't it

1:13:35

scary that we're there already? Like,

1:13:37

we're there already. We have... that

1:13:39

new chip because sometimes we even

1:13:41

read the headlines nowadays and we

1:13:43

just let it pass because Microsoft

1:13:45

developed that new chip that is

1:13:47

a new state of matter. It's

1:13:49

not a gas, it's not a

1:13:51

solid, it's not a liquid. Then

1:13:54

I heard somebody say, this

1:13:56

thing can calculate a math problem

1:13:58

that would have taken the

1:14:00

previous generation computer from the beginning

1:14:02

of time until now. This

1:14:04

thing can calculate that math problem in

1:14:06

five minutes. Then I was

1:14:08

like, yay. We are

1:14:10

skynet now. No, proper. Because

1:14:12

you were talking about the knife in the drawer, and

1:14:15

it depends on who's wielding the knife. And

1:14:17

I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah. What terrifies me

1:14:19

is movies have been coming through. Things we've

1:14:21

seen in movies have been happening. And

1:14:24

eventually, it just makes sense. It's logical

1:14:26

that we've developed a thing that can

1:14:28

almost think for itself, can do all

1:14:30

the research that it needs to do,

1:14:32

understand the world. What's stopping it from

1:14:34

going, oh, no, you guys actually are

1:14:36

the problem yourself. Yeah, I mean, this

1:14:38

is where we got to program ethics

1:14:41

into it. We've got to actually create

1:14:43

hard stops. But again, it can't decide.

1:14:45

Somebody has got to go. Is humanity the

1:14:47

problem? Do something about it? Well, so

1:14:49

even if you ask it right now, it

1:14:51

will tell you that we are the

1:14:53

problem because we are. No, because we are.

1:14:55

But somebody has got to say so

1:14:58

what you should be more know we've not

1:15:00

got computers that are building computers is

1:15:02

my thing. That's based on instruction. So somebody's

1:15:04

going to tell the computer. it's

1:15:06

learning my thing is we can't say

1:15:08

the thing is learning it all the

1:15:10

time and it can now solve a

1:15:12

millennium's problems in five minutes and then

1:15:15

go no no no but it can't

1:15:17

program itself so i'm not disagreeing with

1:15:19

you i'm saying you still got to

1:15:21

be careful of the guy that is

1:15:23

programming, that is telling that machine what

1:15:25

to do. That is more dangerous than

1:15:28

we thought. Look at this guy. It's

1:15:30

more dangerous. Here's who you don't want

1:15:32

programming. AI is this new guy

1:15:34

who's heading up the World Economic Forum.

1:15:36

Remember, Klaus Schwab is left. So

1:15:38

we all think, OK, good, we're

1:15:40

safe from the globalist evil. Because he

1:15:42

looked like a bond villain and

1:15:44

he even sounded like one. Hello, Mr.

1:15:46

Bond. I am here to take

1:15:48

over suffered economic forum for you. I

1:15:50

am the real danger. Anyway, he's

1:15:52

gone now. Also the Pope's gone now.

1:15:54

It's all changing. Everything's changing. And

1:15:57

here's the new guy. Look at this motherfucker. Oh,

1:16:01

look at that eye. Right.

1:16:03

Okay, the computer that

1:16:05

is in a eye. Peter

1:16:07

Peter Brabeck let month. who

1:16:10

is the former CEO of Nestle,

1:16:12

who famously stated in 2017, humans

1:16:14

have no right to access to

1:16:16

free water. I mean, this

1:16:18

is the person they've put in charge there

1:16:20

now. We have no right to access free

1:16:22

water. You can't go to the

1:16:24

stream or the river, according to him. You must

1:16:26

buy my bottled water. You're telling me that,

1:16:28

but I don't look like when Chucky grows up.

1:16:30

I'm telling you, look at that funny. What's

1:16:33

going on with that eye, man? Showed

1:16:35

again. That's the AI. up with

1:16:37

that AI? The AI. That's the AI.

1:16:39

You're right. Exactly. The AI. That's

1:16:43

nice. That's the AI. No,

1:16:46

that thing is calculating everything. Now,

1:16:48

if that works in charge of

1:16:50

programming the computers, then we're in

1:16:52

a lot of shit. But

1:16:54

we are in a lot of shit. Donald Trump

1:16:56

is in charge of Earth. We

1:16:59

are in, like, we're just in

1:17:01

denial. How do we know that

1:17:03

Elon didn't create the new tunnel

1:17:05

even like that? Hey, I'm just

1:17:07

happy that we are far. I

1:17:09

know that they've got a base

1:17:11

here in Botswana, the US, but

1:17:13

it's still very far for us to them

1:17:15

to come and fight with us. And there's,

1:17:17

yeah, there's nice things about women. We're

1:17:19

small. So like, I'm scared for the world.

1:17:22

The world should be afraid. And we see

1:17:24

it, we see it every single day. Turn

1:17:26

up blind, I carry on. that would try

1:17:28

to turn the blind eye. Someone

1:17:30

says it's the eye of Sauron. Gareth,

1:17:32

when you were still on 702 and somebody said,

1:17:35

you world wars are going to come back because

1:17:37

you've always been sharper than sharp. In

1:17:39

our lifetime, would you honestly have

1:17:41

felt the world would react the

1:17:43

way it's reacting to war now?

1:17:46

And I'm talking about take yourself

1:17:48

all the way back to when

1:17:50

you just started and what you

1:17:52

thought you knew then. No, I'm

1:17:55

not even sure to answer that.

1:17:57

I don't know because I didn't

1:17:59

think we'd see it. I still

1:18:01

think we're in a much more

1:18:03

safe and peaceful and pleasant world

1:18:05

than at any other stage in

1:18:08

human history, right? So I don't

1:18:10

think it is bad to be

1:18:12

human right now. Yeah, I think

1:18:14

it's actually very like I was

1:18:16

driving yesterday afternoon on my way

1:18:18

home and I saw A

1:18:21

whole lot of joggers in this neighborhood.

1:18:23

And I thought, you know, jogging

1:18:25

is cuck, but I love that these

1:18:27

people can do it. I

1:18:29

like living in a neighborhood where

1:18:31

there are people who can jog. I

1:18:33

suddenly thought, you know, humans are

1:18:36

resilient as hell, and especially South African

1:18:38

humans, because you keep taking things

1:18:40

away from us. You keep changing things.

1:18:42

You've got total incompetence everywhere. Everything's

1:18:45

like, if you want to be miserable,

1:18:47

it's fucked, right? But these people

1:18:49

are jogging. they're working on their

1:18:51

working on their fitness they're doing something

1:18:53

right in groups and i thought

1:18:55

none of them have to get dressed

1:18:57

in a uniform tomorrow and go

1:19:00

to war against some other country no

1:19:02

we don't have to worry about

1:19:04

that shit so i'm hoping this lasts

1:19:06

that's all i want to keep

1:19:08

it going at least another because i'll

1:19:10

be dead in 50

1:19:13

years I'm glad you're

1:19:15

saying that because maybe

1:19:17

I needed to hear

1:19:19

that because I'm a

1:19:21

little bit I'm a

1:19:23

little bit scared at

1:19:25

things like I never

1:19:27

ever thought Such an

1:19:29

open capitalist would be

1:19:31

In charge, you know,

1:19:33

the democracy was always

1:19:35

about what's worrying you

1:19:37

tell me the truth

1:19:39

Donald Trump. No, so

1:19:41

I'm saying like so

1:19:43

I look at I

1:19:45

look at this this

1:19:47

callous we can piss

1:19:49

everybody off and at

1:19:51

the same time we

1:19:53

can deny atrocities that

1:19:55

are happening and control

1:19:58

who sees them control

1:20:00

who reacts to them

1:20:02

control control so much

1:20:04

and We are. So

1:20:06

for the first time,

1:20:08

I also feel like

1:20:10

I have such a

1:20:12

great voice. But even

1:20:14

me, I've got to watch myself.

1:20:16

But do you really feel that like

1:20:18

it's worse since Trump came in?

1:20:20

I'm talking about it's worse since when

1:20:22

I was 20 and I'm now

1:20:24

turning 44. Not only because we were

1:20:26

being bullshitted and just in terms

1:20:29

of what I expected. So what was

1:20:31

I just like, and it's maybe

1:20:33

like, so here's here's the thing. For

1:20:35

the first time in my life, there's

1:20:38

a podcast, not a

1:20:40

podcast, a TED talk

1:20:42

on some Chinese bra,

1:20:45

talking about the

1:20:47

Chinese political system

1:20:49

versus democracy. And

1:20:52

for the first time, I go,

1:20:54

hey, but this guy makes some good

1:20:56

points. Well, I grew up indoctrinated

1:20:58

that democracy was the light, the right,

1:21:00

and the only way. Then a

1:21:02

simple point of something like the problem

1:21:05

with democracy is if you take

1:21:07

a bank for example if in a

1:21:09

democracy a bank would never work

1:21:11

because you could have somebody who's very

1:21:13

popular in the call center all

1:21:15

of a sudden be promoted to CEO

1:21:17

and that person would now be

1:21:20

responsible for the health of everybody within

1:21:22

that organization now you can have

1:21:24

a situation where somebody who doesn't actually

1:21:26

care about politics they only care

1:21:28

about money being in charge of global

1:21:30

politics so in that Ted talking

1:21:32

speaks about the fact that the current

1:21:34

president of China has worked for

1:21:37

the government of China for 30 years

1:21:39

in every department. Started in a

1:21:41

small town as a municipal worker, became

1:21:43

a municipal manager, understands how

1:21:45

the country runs to be able to

1:21:47

look after its people. But it is

1:21:49

still inside the communist party, a popularity contest.

1:21:51

No, no, 100%. So then I'm saying

1:21:53

for the, I'm not agreeing with you

1:21:55

with the way, but I'm saying for

1:21:57

the first time there are points that I

1:22:00

go, amen. humanity, we are

1:22:02

trusting systems that are not

1:22:04

necessarily protecting us. So we feel

1:22:06

helpless in South Africa. This

1:22:08

fantastic country we spoke all day

1:22:10

about our lovelies and our

1:22:12

resilient people are, but the dual

1:22:14

economy has never been louder

1:22:16

to me. It's never been

1:22:18

louder to me that and it seems to

1:22:20

me a great comedian and a great

1:22:22

mind. I think he's going to do amazing

1:22:24

things on earth. One said a thing

1:22:26

that that that shook me and he said,

1:22:28

South Africa will never be fixed. as

1:22:30

long as one man can pay another man's

1:22:32

salary with the change he has in

1:22:34

his pocket right now. No, but

1:22:37

that's whole shit. It's not. No,

1:22:39

it's whole shit. It's not because

1:22:41

you got this. You see, we've been

1:22:43

told a couple of things. So

1:22:45

I want to go back to the

1:22:47

first question. I'm not going to

1:22:49

necessarily answer your question comprehensively or to

1:22:51

your satisfaction. But here's the best

1:22:53

attempt I can give it. there

1:22:55

are no perfect forms of government

1:22:57

when humans interact with you. There's no

1:22:59

perfect marriage. That's why I

1:23:02

say we're lucky here. How many people

1:23:04

do you know who are always happily married,

1:23:06

always, every day? There's no one, right? Put

1:23:08

two humans in a room, you get 25 opinions,

1:23:11

and it's always going to be disastrous and

1:23:13

impossible to manage. Don't we have to take

1:23:15

a break at some point? Or are

1:23:17

we just going to go? We just

1:23:19

go yeah, I just suddenly thought it's

1:23:21

728 already. I mean having so much fun

1:23:23

talking to you guys normally we we

1:23:25

stop at seven. Okay, so There isn't a

1:23:27

perfect system. Yeah, but I think it

1:23:29

was Churchill who said that democracy is the

1:23:31

best of the bad system I agree

1:23:33

It's about it's about the best we can

1:23:35

do yeah because people feel that they

1:23:37

have input Yes, and to go back to

1:23:39

your the start of your question about

1:23:41

how it was when you were 20 years

1:23:43

old We didn't realise how

1:23:46

much bullshit was involved. We didn't realise

1:23:48

how much we were being spun. Yes.

1:23:50

How much, you know, these

1:23:52

plastic politicians, these, hello, I'm Tony

1:23:55

Blair, hand gesture. I'm

1:23:57

going to take Britain forward

1:23:59

and make it a better

1:24:01

place for all. It was

1:24:03

all rehearsed, performative shit. Frightened.

1:24:05

And we fell in love

1:24:07

with the idea of a

1:24:09

polished, well -spoken

1:24:12

well thought through argument from someone

1:24:14

who looked like a politician

1:24:16

was meant to look like. And

1:24:19

we suddenly realized, because it

1:24:21

all ended up with Joe Biden,

1:24:23

who was like, he

1:24:25

wasn't even in the body. No, the

1:24:27

guy was finished. Right? I mean,

1:24:29

I don't know if you saw, but

1:24:31

for Easter, they posed for a

1:24:34

Biden family photograph or whatever. And

1:24:36

they photoshopped him in. He's

1:24:39

lying in bed. I mean, I

1:24:41

feel for me just too soon, man.

1:24:43

It's just unbelievable. This is how

1:24:46

much we were being lied to. So

1:24:48

the point where they would put

1:24:50

up Carmilla Harris as a candidate and

1:24:52

think, yeah, we'll fall for that.

1:24:54

Like the world's changed. And for all

1:24:56

the things that people have a

1:24:58

problem with, the one thing you can

1:25:00

say about Trump is he's very authentic. Straight

1:25:02

up. He's a real. OK, so I don't

1:25:04

think he'd be very pleasant dinner conversation because

1:25:06

I think he'd just talk about himself and

1:25:08

money. Probably I don't even

1:25:10

think he's that he got great deals.

1:25:12

We've got some great deals in the table.

1:25:14

I'm gonna make a great deal with

1:25:16

China. You know what kind of shit he's

1:25:18

that's his thing. And if he

1:25:21

can get it right. And he is he's

1:25:23

a bully. He remember that clip of him

1:25:25

walking into that NATO meeting where he just

1:25:27

elbowed those other people out of the fucking

1:25:29

way. That's him. And

1:25:31

unfortunately. The world is changed and

1:25:33

made by people like that. It's not

1:25:35

made by nice people who sit in conference

1:25:37

rooms. I mean, we were talking

1:25:39

about AI conferences earlier and I saw a comment

1:25:41

here from somebody who said, I've been to

1:25:44

some of these AI conferences and they're bullshit. I

1:25:48

think the world is actually fine. We'll

1:25:50

be fine. Everything's going to be fine.

1:25:52

The world's always like you said about

1:25:54

South Africa. We'll be fine. And yes,

1:25:56

we've been told that the worst thing

1:25:58

of all is inequality. But

1:26:02

Inequality is not the problem. It's the

1:26:04

solution. As long as you're on

1:26:07

the winning side of that and you

1:26:09

are making yourself richer or better

1:26:11

or happier. You're fine. You're fine. And

1:26:13

you know what? The people at

1:26:15

the other end are not necessarily deserving

1:26:17

of their fate because everyone has

1:26:19

the opportunity to take responsibility for themselves

1:26:21

every day. You just look at,

1:26:23

for example, being healthy. Like you

1:26:25

can eat fucking McDonald's every day.

1:26:27

You can. Sure,

1:26:30

and if you do, that's your decision, then you

1:26:32

must live with the consequences. However,

1:26:35

inequality has been set up as this big

1:26:37

goal that we've got to sort out. Do

1:26:39

you think that if everybody had the same

1:26:41

for a day, they'd be happy? No. I'll

1:26:44

go to my mother early in the negative light.

1:26:46

Let me give us some part from some property.

1:26:48

Yeah, shame you spoke about it. I once said,

1:26:50

sorry mom. Sorry mom. You know, I used to call

1:26:52

it the pommel man. Do you remember that game, the pommel man? Yes. Stop,

1:26:55

drop the pommel man. used to

1:26:57

call it the pommel man. Shame mom,

1:26:59

I love you. I

1:27:02

once said, as

1:27:04

I hate this thing of unfair, I

1:27:06

wish, why can't everybody be rich? Because

1:27:08

it was a case of my best

1:27:10

friend got a... car with no cord

1:27:12

on his remote control and for Christmas

1:27:14

and mine had a remote cord and

1:27:16

I like this is cack yeah and

1:27:18

I was like this is cack and

1:27:20

then I was like I wanted the

1:27:22

other one and then she said no

1:27:24

they get rich and we're not rich

1:27:26

and then I was like but why

1:27:28

can't we all just be rich and

1:27:30

she said hey my boy let me

1:27:32

tell you something simple about life the

1:27:34

thing works because somebody's gotta fry the

1:27:36

burgers and somebody's gotta buy the burgers

1:27:38

just be smart enough to decide which

1:27:40

side of that country you want to

1:27:42

love your life on And as true

1:27:44

a statement as it is that spot.

1:27:46

I still have to argue with you

1:27:48

a little bit and say that Not

1:27:50

everybody who works hard and and puts

1:27:52

in the time Has the opportunity to

1:27:54

make it to the other side sure

1:27:56

and and and it does bother me

1:27:58

It does it does and it maybe

1:28:00

I'm like I'm a softy and I

1:28:02

and I have this Crazy crazy version,

1:28:04

but I'm also not an idiot. So

1:28:06

I also see Capitalism change industries. I

1:28:08

also see this online thing steal from

1:28:10

local communities and local economies. And

1:28:13

that means the mom and pop show that

1:28:15

store that used to employ 15 people in your

1:28:17

neighborhood, they're now getting packages delivered. So one

1:28:19

person is making the money, all of these people,

1:28:21

all of their skill sets are now irrelevant. I

1:28:23

do see big retail who are the

1:28:25

biggest employers in the country and my

1:28:27

favorite people because they do incredible stuff

1:28:29

and some of the best retailers on

1:28:31

on earth. make it impossible to compete

1:28:34

with them, which means jobs in townships

1:28:36

become more and more difficult, access to

1:28:38

education is impossible. So it's like such

1:28:40

a layered thing. And then I do

1:28:42

that same thing that in the beginning

1:28:44

of the story we spoke about, and

1:28:46

I allow problems that are not my

1:28:48

problem, that I can't change or control

1:28:50

to ruin my day. But I'm saying

1:28:52

that because it is getting loud. It's

1:28:54

getting loud. I can't ignore it. You

1:28:56

can't just stay in your bubble. You

1:28:58

can't retain it. But again, I don't

1:29:00

see all of this as a problem.

1:29:02

I genuinely think we all have our

1:29:04

role to play in the economy, whether

1:29:06

you're a buyer or a seller. You're

1:29:09

selling entertainment and comedy, and

1:29:12

both of you individually are very

1:29:14

fucking good at that and very

1:29:16

successful at it. And together with

1:29:18

podcasts and shows like you're doing,

1:29:21

it attracts people. People are willing to

1:29:23

part with their money to see

1:29:25

you do that stuff. Now, even if

1:29:27

you aren't incorporating AI or any

1:29:29

of that stuff into it anytime soon,

1:29:31

people have a desire to laugh.

1:29:33

They have a desire to have feel

1:29:35

good just to distract them sometimes

1:29:38

from how cocky today today is, right?

1:29:40

And that's if you can help

1:29:42

with that. We like being farmer, but

1:29:44

feel guilty about taking their money.

1:29:46

So I don't. I don't. I do.

1:29:48

And I really don't. I want

1:29:50

to reemphasize that. I don't. and then

1:29:52

I did one and I want

1:29:54

to give a great example. Don't

1:29:57

worry about other people's money then

1:29:59

because other people's money is none of

1:30:01

your business. So I absolutely don't. And

1:30:04

the reason I don't is because

1:30:06

I can learn your job. You can't

1:30:08

tell the jokes. Yeah. And that's the

1:30:10

reason it's as simple as that. Yeah.

1:30:12

Whatever it is, your job is I

1:30:14

can go to school and I can

1:30:16

learn your job. You can't stand in

1:30:18

front of a thousand people and

1:30:20

tell the joke. Yes. So don't worry

1:30:23

about about about about my money. But

1:30:25

I do get to get to a

1:30:27

situation where I have a friend that

1:30:29

says I'm moving to Australia because I've

1:30:31

got kids and I'm worried about safety

1:30:33

and I go this the Safety is

1:30:35

gonna continue to be an issue

1:30:37

because there's going to be a growing

1:30:40

Populous of people who have less and

1:30:42

generally when they're people that have less

1:30:44

in a system where we are now

1:30:46

You know talking about scarf theorems where?

1:30:48

status is as important as food, which

1:30:51

where crime and people's safety is always

1:30:53

going to be an issue. So then every

1:30:55

now and then that type of thing

1:30:57

does come up for me and I am

1:30:59

that optimist where I want to go. Guys,

1:31:02

South Africa is fine and is going

1:31:04

to be fine. Then I can't help

1:31:06

but go, hey, Valdavi starts looking like

1:31:08

starting to live in the first world

1:31:10

within the third world with the high

1:31:12

walls. You know what I mean? Exclusivity

1:31:14

and you kind of want to live in the

1:31:16

fairy tale where It's a

1:31:18

system where, you know, Joburg, you want

1:31:20

to tell the story that Joburg is

1:31:22

this place where if you wake up

1:31:25

early and motivated, you're not going to

1:31:27

go to be. But this is not

1:31:29

a geographical problem. It's not like a

1:31:31

South Africa. You've been to New York.

1:31:33

Yeah. You know that there are people

1:31:35

who live in penthouse apartments that are

1:31:37

as big as your house or my

1:31:39

house. Yeah. And some. Yeah. And they

1:31:41

get a view over Central Park and

1:31:43

then you get those. Then you get

1:31:45

the Oaks who have to. Commute for

1:31:47

four hours into Manhattan every day to

1:31:49

put vegetables out in the sidewalk and

1:31:51

they have to go back home at

1:31:53

night as well I want to say

1:31:55

that's inequality to I'm just gonna say

1:31:57

I'm gonna say this with sincerity. Thank

1:31:59

you Because we all need contact and

1:32:01

that's why we do that's why we're

1:32:03

doing the show is is I am

1:32:05

somebody who is aspiring to not have

1:32:07

those traces I'm aspiring to be Bulba

1:32:09

and only be in the now and

1:32:11

celebrate what i can be as kind

1:32:13

as i can when i can help

1:32:15

whoever i can in terms of my

1:32:17

little universe in my world um and

1:32:19

carry on and if we all do

1:32:21

that then we can fix it again

1:32:23

there are two problems yeah okay no

1:32:25

but they're the problems you can you

1:32:28

can do something about and they're the

1:32:30

ones that you can't do something about

1:32:32

and it is not your job to

1:32:34

be the buddha or to be nelson

1:32:36

mandela i was gonna say like you

1:32:38

don't have to solve everybody's problems but

1:32:40

you said it now you said I

1:32:42

can help my people because you started

1:32:44

home. The first thing is if you've

1:32:46

got a sister who desperately needs work

1:32:48

because she's been unemployed for a year,

1:32:50

you find something for her to do

1:32:52