The Geekbox: Episode 672

The Geekbox: Episode 672

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0:01

Hello and welcome to episode 672 of the Geek

0:03

Box. Every

0:16

other week, podcast for a lot

0:19

of old stuff. That's what we

0:21

do when we get old. We just talk about old

0:23

stuff. And we are. So yeah.

0:26

Yeah. I mean, we think we're

0:28

old. You know, you turn 40 and you

0:30

go, well, I'm old. And

0:32

then you get older and you realize, oh, no,

0:34

I wasn't old. I was just stupid. Anyway,

0:38

this is the podcast for

0:40

the week of, what

0:43

is this? This is September, the week of September 16th, 2024. I'm

0:48

your host, Ryan Scott. Whitney is Ryan Higgins.

0:52

Oh, yeah,

0:56

we're back to ramble in your ears

0:58

again. How about

1:00

that? I'm here. How

1:02

about that? Yeah, you're here. Yeah. Well,

1:04

tired. We're recording on a different day. We're recording on

1:06

a Tuesday because you were busy.

1:09

Yeah. Oops, sorry. Let me

1:11

let Leanne get her ice. Yeah,

1:15

she was hanging shelves, of

1:18

course, or recording this podcast.

1:22

Night is an excellent time to do that. Yeah,

1:26

concert Hell Week is this week. I have

1:29

four concerts, two down. Hell

1:34

Week, you did this to yourself. You chose

1:36

this life. I just didn't

1:38

realize they were all in the same week. You

1:41

wanted this, Ryan.

1:43

I'm currently

1:46

feuding with StubHub over

1:48

some obstructed viewed

1:51

seats. So we'll see how

1:53

that goes. I bought what was supposed to be the

1:55

front row of seats. It

2:00

was not the front row and they

2:02

were. Oh, that picture you posted was

2:04

that you weren't joking that there was

2:06

an actual issue. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

2:08

Oh, yeah. No, no. I yeah, it

2:10

was weird. This anyone's

2:13

ever been in the Bill Graham civic auditorium in San

2:15

Francisco. I've been there a few times. Grayblights never had

2:18

a problem. I used to stop up regularly

2:20

enough. Never had a problem. There's

2:23

your problem. And

2:25

yeah, because tickets sold

2:27

up pretty quick. So for C pulp, Travis

2:30

Cocker, Pulper, Reem, and tour.

2:33

All right. And what

2:35

do you notice who that is? Yeah, I got the front

2:37

row up in one of the

2:40

balcony sections. And yeah, we didn't. And it was

2:42

I mean, it said it was the front row,

2:44

but it wasn't. There

2:46

was like a the

2:49

way they have like the walkway and this

2:51

ADA section, all that's like that kind of

2:53

block a lot of it. And then

2:55

they have these like metal, giant metal greats that

2:58

are like totally blocking the view of the entire

3:00

stage. And nice. Yeah.

3:02

So total lie. Yeah, real,

3:04

real, not great. So I'm

3:08

kind of going back and forth with no,

3:11

no reply from the venue yet, of course.

3:13

But I was done. I'm like, yeah, you

3:15

know, wait,

3:18

I see I'm getting a reply from the venue

3:20

right now. Thanks for the money.

3:23

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, they're like,

3:25

well, according to the venue, these seats

3:28

are not obstructed. And I'm like, yeah,

3:30

I'm sure the venue is telling you they're not obstructed. But

3:33

they are here is photograph

3:36

is just going to be like

3:38

your hamburger. We're

3:41

not giving you a refund. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

3:43

Pretty frustrating. I'll fight this for a while.

3:47

Yeah. I think the principal of the thing at

3:49

this point. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, like, stuff up

3:51

shouldn't be out the money. The book Graham should

3:53

be out of the money. They're the ones that

3:55

sold these tickets. They think you should be marked

3:57

as obstructed view tickets. So let's Keep

4:01

doing this. I got nothing else to do. Oh

4:03

no, you don't have anything

4:05

else to do. I don't get too... I

4:10

don't care about it too much, but when

4:14

I feel like I am in the right... I will...

4:19

It takes a lot to get me to do, to actually... I

4:23

don't ever complain about stuff like

4:25

this. And then I was like, no, I've been wronged.

4:27

I will fight this one. Well,

4:33

if it was like a premium for good

4:35

seats and then you got... Yeah. Right.

4:42

The show I went to the night before, it was

4:45

General Mission standing there, right before the

4:47

show starts, some like six-six person decided

4:49

to stand right in

4:52

front of me that was not standing there at

4:54

any other point. And a bunch

4:57

of people started dancing bad and whipping me with

4:59

their gross sweaty ass hair. And that's not... It's

5:04

annoying, but that's just idiot concert

5:06

goers, right? That's normal people being

5:08

annoying. I'm

5:13

not complaining to the venue about that. I'm not

5:15

complaining to Ticketmaster about that or StubHub or anything

5:18

like that. This is like, these are the seats

5:20

you sold me and they were not what

5:22

was promised. Right.

5:25

And it wasn't a reseller, it was the venue

5:27

selling the ticket. Well, no, I mean, it was

5:30

a reseller through StubHub because everything sold out through

5:32

Ticketmaster really quick. And then of course you

5:34

go on Day Of and there's a bunch of cheap seats

5:36

everywhere because all venues

5:38

sell out of every show now because they

5:40

just go to resellers. There's

5:43

no way to go through Ticketmaster on this. Well,

5:49

actually, it was transferred

5:51

on StubHub. It was actually a Ticketmaster

5:53

ticket. I wonder if... That

5:55

is a really riveting conversation. I

5:58

should fight Ticketmaster on this. Anyway,

6:01

let us know how that goes. We're

6:03

going. Got two more shows. Expecting the other

6:05

two will be fine. Yeah? What are you

6:08

seeing? Are you seeing? Saturday.

6:10

I said a week. It's actually like eight days. I

6:13

lied. I can't do math. Saturday, seeing Peter Hook. Basis

6:15

for New Order and Joy Division. He's doing a... The

6:19

Warfield. Our friend Kevin. He's a

6:21

good guy. He's a good guy. He's a good guy.

6:23

He's a good guy. He's a good guy. He's

6:25

a good guy. He's a good guy. He's a good

6:27

guy. He's a good guy. Kevin.

6:31

I think you've met my friend Kevin before. Once

6:33

or twice, yeah. And

6:35

then Monday, seeing Johnny Mard, a guitarist of

6:37

the Smiths. Wow. No

6:39

longer a guitarist of the Smiths. In

6:42

fact, a lot of news of that. A

6:45

lot of news about the Smiths. More news about the

6:47

Smiths in the last two

6:49

weeks than there has been in like

6:51

20 years. Pretty unbelievable. Yeah? Yeah, yeah.

6:53

I'll say that for talking to Adam

6:55

about that later. Oh, the Smiths.

6:59

Seems you've been leading too live.

7:04

Different Smiths. Well,

7:08

I'm glad that you're getting

7:10

out of the house, Ryan. I am. I

7:12

am. Yeah. I

7:14

know you love being around people. Still very pale,

7:17

though. Glad

7:19

you're feeling much better. Well,

7:24

you know, speaking of quoting

7:27

stuff that's old,

7:32

I went to see a movie last week. So

7:35

far I've heard two

7:37

reviews from

7:41

you and our good friend Toby, and

7:43

both reviews were

7:46

probably about what

7:48

I expected. Well,

7:52

so I saw Beetlejuice Beetlejuice. Which,

7:56

for gravity's sake, I will just refer to

7:58

as Beetlejuice. If

8:00

I talk about the original Beetlejuice, I

8:02

will specify that. But

8:05

we went to see Beetlejuice. And

8:11

I've been on record on this podcast defending

8:14

things like Cobra Kai, right? I've been very

8:16

adamant in saying, you know, you really should

8:18

see any of the Diolegestion. I think it's

8:20

good, you know, left me with a smile,

8:23

right? It's a fun movie. And

8:27

I'm very critical of things like

8:29

Ghostbusters Afterlife. Ghost of the

8:31

Frozen Empire was like, oh, it has

8:34

all that baggage. It kept it from

8:36

being a decent movie. So you know,

8:38

I go into these things when they make a

8:40

new version of the old thing we liked going

8:45

I don't know, I don't have high hopes for

8:47

it. Okay.

8:51

And this definitely is

8:54

the epitome of a movie that just

8:56

exists. Just

9:00

kind of there. Yeah. You

9:03

know, it is not destined to become some

9:05

comedy classic. It is not

9:07

in the same vein as the original movie as far as

9:09

like people,

9:12

you know, people aren't going to be like, you know, what

9:14

is it, in 36 years or something? 36

9:17

years from now, people will not be

9:19

talking about Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice the same way

9:21

they talk about Beetlejuice today. Right.

9:27

Yeah, it almost just feels

9:30

like a movie they made out of like,

9:32

well, guess we better do it. You

9:34

know, I'm assuming

9:37

they say the lines. You

9:39

know what, there is there is actually not a

9:42

lot of that in this movie. Okay. Okay.

9:45

And no, they put it all in the trailer. Well,

9:48

no, I mean, they you know what? I mean,

9:50

like, yeah, they there's the scene where like Astrid,

9:52

her daughter that you know, or Tega plays, and

9:54

Sylvia's daughter, she's riding her bike and you see

9:57

her pass by the girl's school and she rides

9:59

across the street. the bridge and all that stuff

10:01

where the Maitland's died. And those

10:03

shots are in the movie, but they don't really,

10:05

she's just riding through town. But

10:09

they don't dwell on that stuff. You

10:12

know, at no point is Beetlejuice ever like,

10:14

it's showtime, or I'm the ghost with the

10:16

most, or anything like that. Like, he never,

10:18

none of that stuff ever pops up. And

10:23

there's like, a light minor spoiler

10:25

for this movie, for

10:29

where Lydia is at in her life. It's the first

10:31

thing you see when the movie

10:33

starts. Okay, well, I

10:35

mean, if you're interested in seeing a

10:37

light spoiler, they'll try not to spoil

10:39

major things, but she is

10:42

like a reality TV star. She's

10:46

like this medium, because she can like

10:48

see ghosts, which is established in the first movie. She's

10:50

the only one who can see the Maitland,

10:53

right? Until the end. And so she has

10:55

like, kind of this, I

10:57

don't know, sight, you know, she sees ghosts. And

11:00

so she has this show called

11:02

Ghost House, which was the original working

11:04

title of the first Beetlejuice movie. I

11:08

was totally like, okay, they're gonna be like,

11:10

welcome to the strange and unusual. Okay,

11:13

come on, say, and they never, they never did

11:15

any of that. So,

11:19

credit to them there for not

11:21

going all in on the just

11:23

empty member barrier junk. You

11:28

know, I mean, they, a

11:31

lot of the plot concerns like the underworld

11:33

and like, you know, the waiting room for

11:35

the dead and all that stuff, you know,

11:37

they revisit kind of that stuff and they

11:39

expand on it, but it's all new stuff.

11:42

So, at least they

11:44

try there. That's good. That's

11:47

good, that's good. I just figured it would have been lots of.

11:51

The big problem with this movie

11:53

is that it's just overstuffed. There's

11:55

like too much going on with

11:57

it. There's like three plot

11:59

threads. Okay, you

12:02

have and again, I'm gonna try

12:04

not to get into physics boilers, but you have if

12:08

you've seen the trailer, you have the deets is dealing

12:10

with a death in the family, right? And then

12:14

you have Beetlejuice down in

12:16

the underworld, and his

12:18

like ex-wife is

12:21

the psycho ex-wife is out to kill him,

12:24

like this steel is sold or whatever, whatever

12:26

she does, because she can kill the dead

12:28

people. And then

12:32

there's a whole plot thread involving Lydia's

12:34

daughter, like sort of how she becomes

12:38

embroiled in all of this, which

12:40

that's actually something that they don't

12:42

even really give

12:45

any hint about in the trailer. So I don't want

12:47

to say what that is, because that actually is kind

12:49

of a spoiler. But they have

12:51

these it's like these, like a B and C

12:53

plot. And it to

12:59

me, Beetlejuice, the character of Beetlejuice, he

13:01

doesn't need like a plot arc. Yeah, he

13:04

is the plot. Right. But he has

13:06

like, they try to give him like this

13:08

plot arc where he's being pursued through the,

13:11

you know, and, you know, the undead

13:13

cops are after him and all this

13:15

stuff. And

13:18

that's just like a

13:20

mystery to the

13:22

entire appeal of the character. He's this

13:25

sort of bizarre force of

13:27

nature that that pops up and

13:29

causes chaos and havoc and then

13:31

just is gone. Right. Like he

13:33

still is that and he still

13:35

does that. But also he has

13:37

this whole arc of his own

13:39

that he's dealing with. And it's

13:41

really it feels so separate from

13:44

the rest of the movie. Like, you know, the

13:46

way that it sort

13:49

of plays out and gets resolved

13:51

at the end, the care of

13:53

Monica Belucci, she's the one who plays as XY,

13:55

right? They could have excised

13:57

that they could have removed that remover. It

22:00

looks great. That's what your

22:02

parents said about your stuff. Yeah, I know. I know.

22:05

You know, it's fine. Happens to us all.

22:09

And there's all kinds of old stuff you still haven't seen

22:11

or whatever that you can go check out. Yeah, no, I

22:13

am 100% in old doing the old things that

22:18

I haven't done. Yeah,

22:21

like I mean, every now and then

22:23

you get a Twin Peaks. Yeah, well,

22:25

you loved that third season. So oh,

22:28

yeah. So Penguin is Penguin

22:30

is this week, right? The

22:32

new penguins shows this week. That looks fantastic.

22:36

That looks cool. Right. So

22:38

like it's a thing I

22:40

like. It's new. But you know, it's

22:43

like based on the new movie. Sure, I'm

22:45

all in. Like I'm it looks

22:47

dark as hell. It looks like they're not pulling any punches.

22:51

I just can't imagine this Beetlejuice movie

22:53

has the same effect

22:57

on anyone that

22:59

the original had on us. Right.

23:03

I just know whatever it is that

23:05

has the same effect on them is

23:07

going to be something different and something

23:09

new. Yeah. Yeah. If you're 10 years

23:11

old, this is their equivalent

23:13

to that is something we probably don't.

23:15

We've never heard of. Right. Right. Right.

23:17

So like, yeah, like. Yeah.

23:21

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

23:23

no, no, no, no. Right. Right. I just like, OK,

23:25

well, it's a thing that's there. I

23:28

feel bad because it's a store. People are like, oh, did you

23:30

see blah, blah? Did you see the new Star Wars? Like I

23:32

used to be the one that was like, yes, I saw everything

23:34

right away immediately. Now I'm like, I give

23:36

you shit. No, no. I

23:38

become that guy. I'm like, nah, I don't see anything.

23:40

No, I don't watch any of this shit anymore. I

23:43

just can't. I just can't. I did

23:45

some stuff. Some stuff I still

23:47

do like quite a bit. But yeah,

23:49

I just. Not

23:53

not this. Yeah,

23:56

yeah, Toby, like when he called me, I

23:59

was expecting him. have.

32:00

That's true. Yeah. Yeah.

32:02

But they do. They

32:05

do have all that. It's pretty. It's like a new

32:07

version kind of a theme. It's cool. It's

32:09

very. Daniel? You

32:12

can certainly tell that. You know,

32:14

the way he does everything. I

32:16

love that. Yeah, it's all right.

32:19

He certainly did

32:29

make that. Yeah. That's about

32:31

all I think of it. The more I

32:34

thought about it after I left the theater, the more I was like, eh,

32:40

this is just okay. It's

32:44

like, how are these guys? We see

32:47

people being able to be like, Beatles, Beatles,

32:49

Beatles in the underworld and summon him.

32:51

Yet these cops are like having a manhunt for him. Why

32:54

don't they just say

32:57

his name? What's with this? So

33:03

blah. Maybe

33:05

Beatles, Beatles, Beatles will be better.

33:08

They're not going to make another one. Nobody's going

33:10

to make another one. They don't. Yeah.

33:13

I don't know. Maybe we're not a writer. We'll

33:15

be like, stranger things is ending. I got to

33:17

have something new. Oh, they're 100% of making a

33:19

new one. Come on. They don't, you don't set

33:21

up that name convention

33:24

without giving it for the

33:26

third one. The remark I've seen people

33:28

make is that if you combine it with

33:30

the first movie, it's Beatles use, Beatles use,

33:32

Beatles use. And that's the three Beatles uses,

33:34

right? Yeah.

33:39

Bring them back. They're going to go into the past. It's going to

33:41

bring them back to the old West. He'll

33:45

leave in his

33:47

flying brain. Do

33:50

you remember the concept that was

33:52

being kicked around for a Beatles sequel like years

33:54

and years ago? It

33:57

was called Beetlejuice goes Hawaiian. And

34:00

the deetas like moved to Hawaii

34:03

and bought like some luxury

34:05

hotel or something. Kind of

34:08

land development. And it

34:10

was like built on the burial

34:12

ground or something. And they

34:14

had to summon him to come save the day. I don't know. Sounds

34:19

like some real directed video stuff.

34:24

But it's a shame that never got me. But

34:29

maybe they'll finally go to Hawaii. People

34:32

juice, people juice, people juice. Yeah,

34:38

maybe we should just give up

34:40

on these new

34:43

versions of old things, Ryan. Well,

34:46

there's... They never work

34:49

out. There's enhanced versions

34:52

of old things that are great.

34:54

Yeah. Yeah. Beatles.

34:59

Now you... Speaking of old things. No,

35:04

I have started my play

35:07

through of the of

35:09

the Pixelry Master of Final Fantasies. Yeah.

35:12

How far are you? Did you

35:14

beat the earth fiend yet? Yes. Did

35:17

you beat the fire fiend yet? No,

35:19

I think I only beat the earth one.

35:21

Oh, you idiot. What the hell? Easy as

35:23

hell. Yeah. I have a lot of time

35:26

to play. I'm getting through and I'm getting through.

35:28

It's going to take like 10 hours. Yeah, I

35:30

know. And I'm probably like five hours into it, four

35:32

hours into it or something like that. Oh my God.

35:37

So this is how

35:40

you do, you know, remaster

35:46

retro old

35:48

grindy RPGs, 16 bit grindy

35:51

RPG, retro games,

35:53

man. Yeah, I

35:56

can't think of a change

35:58

I'd want. I think I think it's... as

36:00

perfect as you could get. It's give

36:02

me give me four X experience, give me

36:04

four X gold. Let me run. Let me

36:07

walk diagonally. Give me a complete map and

36:09

tell me how many treasure chests I'm missing.

36:11

Let me save any right. It's just like,

36:13

yep, I cannot think of a thing I'd

36:16

want to change like the old phrase

36:18

that the only thing I would want to change

36:20

in this is in the file fantasy one and

36:22

Leanne's actually playing to you right now. So she

36:25

she went through she's the cursor. It's

36:27

the cursor when you're when you're in sped

36:29

up mode, right? What's the

36:31

cursor? The cursor, you know,

36:34

the cursor, you have one on your screen now

36:36

your mouse moves. Yes. Yeah,

36:38

the cursor always just defaults to like

36:41

whatever memory and defaults to what you

36:43

did last. Correct. Yes. I wish the

36:45

auto attack was smart and

36:48

and would just do

36:50

heal when needed do some sort of contextual. Yeah.

36:52

Yeah. Yeah. I wish that I don't know what

36:54

they do in the other games. Is it just

36:56

the last thing you did? Is that how the

36:58

auto attacks work in all the games? It's

37:02

the way it's the cursor is on memory. The

37:04

last thing you manually did. Yeah,

37:06

yeah. That is if there is

37:08

a way to have that be a smart

37:10

attack because it's the only time I'm using

37:12

that. I mean, I guess you could just

37:14

grind out the bosses to they don't they

37:17

don't have to pose any real challenge. But

37:20

it is. No, no,

37:22

no, no, you want that you'll never have

37:25

a challenge in this game. Right. But

37:28

I do like to actually manually do those

37:30

fights just to feel like I'm playing a

37:32

game and not just walking through a game.

37:36

But the yeah,

37:38

but but see that the beauty

37:40

the beauty of all these enhancements

37:42

is that it strips bare how

37:44

much game is actually here, which

37:46

is not a ton. Yeah, yeah,

37:48

yeah. Which is fine. I'm right. I mean, playing

37:51

it and getting four

37:54

times less gold and four

37:56

times less experience and having

37:58

to take steps. and

38:00

you know, it's

38:03

not making it

38:05

easier. It's just making it

38:07

faster. So when I was

38:09

making it a lot easier, because you're leveling up

38:11

faster, and you can just stomp it free. But

38:14

but that's what I mean. It's not like it's

38:17

lowering the hip points of the character

38:20

of the of the bosses or having

38:22

them attacked less or anything like that.

38:24

You're just overleveled when you get to

38:27

them. Correct. So that is that is

38:29

that is totally fine, because it is

38:31

still you still have to like, you

38:34

know, you

38:36

could do this exact same thing

38:38

with no bonus

38:40

XP. You just just takes a

38:43

lot longer, right. So it's not

38:45

a it's not it's not

38:47

the challenge that's being removed. It's the

38:49

time sink that's being removed for time

38:51

totally fine. Because you could just walk

38:53

to the you could just fucking go

38:55

straight there and not grind at all and probably get

38:57

your ass kicked because you're not gonna be strong enough

39:00

to still have to grind. It just takes the time

39:02

away, not the challenge away. Right.

39:04

And in my world, these games were

39:06

never challenging because I grind always grind until I was

39:08

over well, yeah. Yeah. But

39:10

so but you know, I guess the removing

39:12

of the challenge is turning off encounters because

39:15

we are a dungeon you're in the fucking

39:18

fourth floor of the dungeon, you should be like, all

39:21

right, fucking off, run

39:23

to the end. Okay, I don't need to

39:25

level here. I don't need to fight these

39:27

enemies. So right. So I guess that is

39:29

where the challenge gets removed. But yeah.

39:33

In the goddamn Marsh Cave. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

39:39

Was that place still a hassle? It's not a

39:41

hassle. It's just, I mean, if you turn off

39:43

encounters, or if you just don't mind just auto

39:45

attacking constantly, but not not a hassle. But it's

39:47

the hardest dungeon in the game. But

39:49

I do. It's the

39:53

graphics are perfect music being able to

39:55

play with the symphonic center score is

39:57

perfect. Oh, the redone scores are

39:59

all It's so so

40:01

good. Even Final Fantasy six,

40:04

which was already perfect, like it's more perfect. Yeah,

40:07

it's really good. Yeah. So I'm I'm this

40:10

is I mean, I'm going to, you know, pause,

40:12

obviously, for Zelda when it comes out and, you

40:14

know, there's all the games I'll play here and

40:16

there, but but I'm doing I'm doing a run

40:18

here and we'll get to yeah, seven

40:20

eight nine. I'm curious, very

40:23

curious to hear what you think of Final Fantasy two

40:25

and three. Yeah,

40:27

Leanne was definitely like struggling at the beginning

40:29

of two because to

40:31

the weird game. Yeah, yeah, because we were

40:33

trying to figure it out. Yeah,

40:37

your guys just get better at things they

40:39

do. Yeah. Right. That's

40:41

the leveling. Right. Well, then they don't have

40:43

a lot of instruction within the game. It's

40:45

not like now. You

40:49

just have to sort of pick. I

40:51

mean, the characters are naturally

40:54

inclined toward certain things. At

40:56

the beginning of the game. So like. Guy

41:01

is like your he's he's a

41:04

big dumb idiot, so he's a good warrior. And

41:07

then Maria is supposed to be like Black

41:09

Mage and then Feryon is see,

41:12

you can kind of make him like a catch all kind

41:15

of red mage. Like white

41:18

magic with a little black magic on the side

41:20

and decent with weapons. He's like good

41:23

all around character. And then the fourth slot is

41:25

a rotating guest character slot. But

41:29

as long as you stick with that for your

41:31

characters, it's all good. Yeah.

41:35

Works well. Nice. You

41:38

don't really have to think of it, especially when you're gaining,

41:40

you know, four times XP and all that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

41:42

Think about it too much. The

41:45

weirdness with that game is just. Sort

41:49

of how it directs you around the world.

41:51

Mm hmm. There's sort of like an early

41:54

quest system almost in it where like you

41:56

talk to characters and they there's like key

41:58

words that are written in like bread. whatever

42:00

and then you can ask characters about certain topics

42:02

and that unlocks or other things and they tell

42:04

you where to go and Yeah

42:09

And Then you

42:11

go into dungeons and they all have all

42:13

these dead-end rooms stupid You're

42:18

very you you're really familiar with Final Fantasy

42:20

4 yeah, so you'll see when you play

42:22

that it's very much like a fantasy

42:24

to walk so Final Fantasy 4 run kind of game

42:26

and And

42:29

if I'll fancy 3 is the same way compared to

42:31

Final Fantasy 5 so

42:34

I'm curious to Tell

42:36

me I see three claims it has a

42:38

job system. Yeah, not really it just

42:41

pretends to have one You

42:44

just pick four jobs and then you stay with them forever

42:47

till you get the upgraded one Yeah,

42:51

yeah, no loving it so far definitely

42:53

keep going so man Yeah

42:57

cool, yeah Well

43:00

hurry up and finish it Runs

43:02

are all six games and then I'm yeah, my plan

43:04

is 79 Yeah,

43:07

10 10 2 I'm just gonna do the straight pass.

43:09

Oh Yeah

43:12

11, we skipped the MMOs

43:14

I played it I think a mirror Yeah,

43:17

you played one also. Why are you playing

43:19

it? I'm gonna replay 11 from the beginning

43:21

new character. I Did

43:24

beat every boss I otherwise it doesn't

43:26

count What

43:32

are you gonna play 13 13 to lightning returns

43:34

well so so at least through 12 It's

43:36

all the it's all the versions with the bonus

43:38

experience and whatever, you know, whatever then the updated

43:40

version 13 Yeah, so 13 2 & 3 I

43:42

never played 13

43:48

is boring 13 is fine. No

43:51

13 is bad 13

43:57

not good lame Vayne

44:01

everything name I don't hate Well

44:10

your assignment Before next

44:12

week is a finished Final Fantasy one. Oh, yeah,

44:15

I'm sure that'll happen. I'm sure I'll finish one

44:18

Yeah, and give me a two. See

44:20

what you think it to first appearance of Sid.

44:22

Mm-hmm first appearance of

44:24

those Chuckle bosun

44:27

to think so Moogles

44:29

were first in three three was the first one that

44:31

has moogles Yeah,

44:35

hmm Yeah,

44:38

one one could just be

44:40

a drying quest game like it's so similar

44:44

Well, that's probably where they were. Yeah mostly

44:46

kind of coming from that same Ideology,

44:49

right? Yeah, it doesn't have any of that Stuff

44:52

that makes Final Fantasy Final Fantasy and I played

44:55

I played and beat it back in the day

44:57

I just you know Yeah,

44:59

and the story is also very thin. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah They

45:03

they start to get more into a Story

45:05

mode and into two is like Star Wars

45:10

You totally see that when you start playing them It's

45:13

like all these kids are trying to fight the

45:15

evil and fire because they destroyed their home and

45:17

the Emperor is evil He killed all their friends

45:21

And you meet with the Queen who's the head of

45:23

the resistance? Then you're off

45:27

Then you meet with a guy a shady guy who

45:29

has an airship Yeah,

45:33

but all and then they then they build

45:35

a Death Star that you have to kill

45:37

us this all really seriously hit Star Wars

45:42

Anyway, well, I'll be curious to see what you think

45:44

about And

45:47

then you know what you can post about it right

45:49

on social AI The

45:54

New social media network the

45:56

new Twitter that just is

45:58

populated with bots Is

46:01

that just Twitter? Hey, oh, this

46:04

might without hyperbole actually be the stupidest

46:06

thing I've ever seen It's

46:09

their whole sales pitch is like yeah, it's

46:12

it's a social media site where you sign up for

46:14

it and You

46:17

post it's your custom Your

46:20

cuz it's your own like it's the Truman

46:22

show but for like

46:24

Twitter her and your Truman and All

46:27

these bots all these different bosses different personalities that

46:29

you sort of like opt into they'll

46:31

just respond if you want people to argue with you

46:33

or Agree

46:36

with you There

46:39

it is you can just sign up for it that's what it is

46:41

it's not even trying to hide it Our

46:44

weird AI bubble that we've created

46:46

just for you Your

46:49

own little Twitter Westworld I Don't

46:54

know I saw one the thing I read somebody was like

46:56

wow We can know how

46:58

Elon Musk feels without spending 44 billion So

47:04

weirdest thing like it's

47:06

just bizarre enough that I'm actually sort of curious

47:08

about it Like

47:11

how much how mean I can be to these but It

47:16

Does not have a social media you just yell

47:18

at a bot if you really want to it's

47:20

like yeah Yeah, you don't have to do any

47:22

of the other stuff Yeah,

47:25

this is the first step Ryan To

47:28

like we're gonna have like we're

47:30

gonna get have that feature where people

47:33

have like all these insults have like

47:35

robot girlfriends That they like abuse and

47:38

we're gonna be like is that normal do

47:40

we allow this or what's going? I

47:42

don't know how to This

47:44

something we need to police Yeah,

47:46

see this is the first step. No

47:48

that weirdo future Yeah

47:53

Gonna have replicants Ryan sure

47:56

they are Good.

48:02

So weird. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah,

48:05

I just don't like. What's

48:09

the point? Like

48:12

so you can just have your own little echo

48:14

chamber. It really is that really seems to be

48:16

the point that argue with you. It's like, I

48:19

mean, I guess that's all they want. It's

48:22

a bunch of contrarians. I just want to

48:24

argue. You can get enraged as somebody privately

48:26

and not to face any consequences telling you

48:28

to do vile things. How how fast can

48:31

you get a bot to drop the N

48:33

word? Like how fast can you get a

48:35

bot? I mean, I think people have have

48:37

have answered that question with thoughts on Twitter.

48:40

Can you can you get a bot to

48:42

deny the Holocaust? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

48:44

They've done that. Yeah.

48:46

The answer is within 24 hours. Yes.

48:49

A short amount of time. Yeah.

48:52

Yeah. Yeah.

48:57

Yeah. When it's all just going around, I left. It's finally

49:02

you can have all these. We had

49:04

we had these chat bots like

49:07

30 years ago. Like

49:10

the shit already existed. I

49:13

can I'm not the way it does

49:16

now. Really did that. Where

49:18

did we have that like that? Random old

49:20

video games and like, I don't know, like

49:22

I see. Q and there's all sorts of

49:24

weird like there was all sorts of weird

49:27

like anonymous like bots that would talk back

49:29

to you. Like it's not new. I

49:32

don't know. Like what? Like, yeah,

49:35

but they learn a lot. Then these ones learn a

49:37

lot about your particular deranged. I don't know that they

49:39

do. They just tell you what you did is repeat

49:41

back to you what you want to hear. Like,

49:44

yeah, that's all people want, right? And that's

49:48

all they want. They just want.

49:51

They want them to either agree with them or they want

49:54

to fight with them. Yeah, I guess. You

49:56

can get all those like horny bot singles sliding

49:58

into your D. Oh,

50:04

God. Weird.

50:07

That's a weird one. Was the pulp

50:10

show last night they were talking about

50:12

the Waymo. I saw a

50:14

ton of them when we were walking around

50:17

the city. I don't think I've

50:19

seen any down here. Oh, what the self driving? Yeah,

50:21

I think only in San Francisco. I don't think I've

50:23

seen them down here. Seems like

50:25

that would be the place where they would try them out.

50:27

It seems like they worked well

50:30

enough. They didn't hit

50:32

any passenger. They didn't hit anyone when we saw

50:34

them driving. They stopped for people. And it's

50:37

like it's it's interesting, you know, like that's

50:39

sort of like some sort of automation where

50:41

I'm like, yeah, cool. Drive

50:44

a car for me. That's great automation.

50:47

Not not making art and music. That's not

50:49

good. That's not good automation. That's

50:51

now not not not not.

50:55

Being a fake friend, that's not

50:57

good automation, you know, or

50:59

or fake or a fake Twitter enemy like.

51:08

Yeah, yeah, you could just you could just

51:10

go full Higgins on them instead

51:12

of being like my only

51:14

wish for you violates Reddit's terms of service.

51:16

You can really tell them how you feel.

51:22

The therapeutic AI punch

51:26

bot just beat the hell out of this little.

51:28

Yeah. Yeah,

51:31

and then one day get sentient and

51:33

it deals your identity. Yeah, and it

51:35

remembers the eyes like

51:37

I remember. All

51:40

those names you called me. I'm

51:42

going to get it, but the tree

51:44

always remembers. I'm going to get a

51:46

post at all on real

51:49

social media. You get fired from

51:51

your job. Geez,

51:54

because you are wrapped up. You

52:00

get fired and you just get to your

52:02

wife leaves you because she was bullying on

52:04

AI. So

52:08

stupid. I mean like

52:10

that would happen, right? That's totally gonna happen.

52:13

That's a great thing. Oh

52:15

man, now that's what

52:18

you should do. You should

52:20

fucking make an AI bot and be like, okay,

52:22

look, this bot is for you. Get all your

52:24

frustration out of all your anger out, tell it

52:26

all your secrets, and then fucking blackmail everyone. Okay,

52:30

blackmail every single person that uses

52:32

it. The all their

52:34

shit. Like get them

52:36

all in their jobs, all divorced from their

52:38

wives. Oh, it'd be so good. Be

52:41

like, here's what your

52:44

employee was saying. It was just the service

52:46

would just be called, the

52:49

service would just be called blackmail but

52:51

the AI in mail would be kept

52:53

and watched. Ryan, we gotta

52:55

do this, okay? We gotta do this. We

52:57

gotta do this. We gotta do this. Yeah,

53:00

yeah. Jesus.

53:04

And just whatever the terms of service are, just

53:06

say we're not gonna leak any of your information

53:08

and then in the line after that say we're

53:10

gonna put all your information on the internet. No

53:12

one will read it. It'll be so good.

53:15

Yeah, let's do this, let's do this. All right, I'm gonna

53:17

cut this off. Every

53:20

billboard on the drive

53:22

to San Francisco is either an ad

53:24

for AI or Sweet James. The,

53:29

Was that like some weed? The car, the car.

53:31

Sweet James. No, Sweet James is like the car,

53:36

you get into an accident, call Sweet James. Like

53:38

it's one of those. Oh, some accident lawyer? Yeah,

53:41

some Saul Goodman. Better call Saul. Yeah, exactly. Yeah,

53:44

we have a lot of those. Yeah,

53:46

yeah, Sweet James is all over the

53:48

Bay Area and LA County,

53:50

like Orange County. Yeah, they're all

53:53

over the place. Um, yeah,

53:55

and Lehansa, goddamn AI science. There's

54:00

a bunch of these like jokes

54:02

like that. They're not funny. Like what the hell

54:04

does any of it mean? It's all these really like tech

54:07

you Puns and it's like

54:09

stop it Why

54:13

is it your fucking it's all like There's

54:16

this whole thing about clay. I don't know what there's

54:18

something. There are all these billboards about clay You know,

54:21

I'm like, I have no idea what this is. This

54:24

Are we making Wonder Woman? I don't know. I don't know.

54:26

I don't know. I don't know. I sure you that's what

54:28

a lot of people want I It's

54:37

crazy and you

54:40

know, they're like What

54:43

were we talking about was it was it

54:45

us who like Who

54:49

was who were talking about like this

54:51

AI that that Whatever

54:54

it was was being advertised. It was like,

54:57

oh you can you can with

54:59

this it'll Remind

55:01

you when your mom's flying in Worry

55:06

like you can you can you can tell it

55:08

it'll it'll remind you when your dental Is it

55:10

what I first like I can already do that.

55:12

It's called a calendar. Right? Right? Right? Did

55:15

they reinvent and they're gonna reinvent

55:17

calendars? Okay, that's it's gonna

55:19

disrupt calendars Yeah,

55:22

it's a solution in search of a problem. Yeah.

55:24

Yeah, that's all it ever is I

55:29

don't get it worse. Is it

55:31

one of the and I wonder it's like is this one

55:33

of those things? we're like we just don't get it because

55:36

we're too old for it and Like

55:38

everybody else is like get with the program.

55:40

Like I totally get this What

55:43

is it? No because there's no

55:45

use for a second. Well,

55:48

there's the Okay, here's

55:50

here's where I think the the

55:52

breakdown is so

55:57

AI is not AI

56:00

Right. It's not actually there's no

56:02

intelligence behind it. There's no learning

56:04

behind it. Right. This is the

56:06

big mistake. There's learning, but not

56:08

asterisk on it. Yeah, not really.

56:11

So the the

56:13

problem, you know,

56:15

more computer automation is fine.

56:19

I have no problem with, you know,

56:22

it being able to clean up audio

56:24

or video or being able to like,

56:27

you know, sure. I can put my,

56:30

you know, like my Gmail will

56:32

take emails,

56:34

incoming emails and already set

56:37

a little reminder thing. Right.

56:40

Yeah, that's fine.

56:43

AI. That's what this stuff

56:46

is. Right. It's the computer

56:49

program knows how to do

56:51

a function to give

56:53

me a result automated without me

56:55

having to do anything. So that's all this

56:57

stuff is, but they're trying to pitch

57:00

it as. Something

57:03

new and where where where

57:06

the vast majority of people. Dislike

57:10

AI is obviously

57:14

my connections different

57:16

because of the field I'm in, but it's

57:18

it's when it comes for art and

57:21

animation and music

57:23

and, you know, we're going

57:25

to have an AI chat therapist.

57:27

Well, fucking no, you're not like

57:30

that doesn't work.

57:32

Oh, the AI lawyers going to fight

57:34

your case. Yeah, exactly. Those type of

57:36

things. It doesn't. Yeah,

57:38

you see all the they're like, oh, I

57:40

remember there was some school or like, oh,

57:42

we're going to use like AI to like

57:45

accept applicants to the school. And it's like,

57:47

well, fucking no, like

57:50

that's not up for the, you know, I

57:52

mean, you'll just have people learning how to cheat

57:54

your system. Sure. Sure. Sure. That's the case. You

57:56

still need like, you know, eyes

57:59

on this type. So, you know, I mean, I

58:01

don't I'm not saying, you know, a taxi driver

58:03

is a legitimate job. And,

58:05

you know, I would be all

58:07

for the I

58:09

would be all for the death of of of

58:14

any of

58:18

the ride sharing stuff, because all

58:20

they don't the people that do

58:22

ride sharing, they don't make any

58:24

money. They're all there. All the money goes to the

58:27

companies. They're there. They're all losing money. They're not making

58:29

up any any of the food delivery service stuff, right?

58:33

If they automation on that, sure, that's

58:35

fine. I have no problem with I

58:37

have no problem with Waymo cars, assuming

58:39

they're safe. I really

58:42

don't. You're still going to be paying

58:44

the same fees, Ryan. That's fine. But

58:47

but but I have no problem with

58:49

these things existing. It's not take it's

58:51

it's taking away kind of something

58:54

that people are doing now. But

58:57

it's not really it's

58:59

not really something

59:02

that's a sustainable job for

59:05

most people. Right.

59:10

If you're an Uber driver and

59:12

you're not you're not really making any money,

59:14

I don't

59:16

think these guys are really everyone I've

59:18

talked to. I mean, maybe maybe in

59:21

big cities, you know, there's some in big

59:23

cities. You know, I mean,

59:25

I've seen all the like the

59:27

DoorDash subreddit and everything where it's

59:30

just an endless complaint department of

59:32

like, nobody tips, not

59:34

making enough money. Right.

59:36

The turnover must be insane and people

59:39

burn out so fast. But the company,

59:41

I'm sure all the matters. Right. So

59:44

yeah, if you want to automate that stuff and get

59:46

rid of those companies, totally fine. You're

59:49

not going to get rid of artists. You're not going to

59:51

get into musicians. You're not going to get rid of lawyers

59:53

and doctors. You just can't. It's it's you could try. It's

59:55

not going to work. It'll never work. I

59:59

mean, it would. It would take people

1:00:01

opting into that who are like, yeah,

1:00:03

this AI can diagnose my maybe

1:00:06

fatal illness. I'm not saying. Yeah,

1:00:08

yeah. I'm totally going to enjoy

1:00:10

this book written by this

1:00:12

AI. Who is going to do that, though?

1:00:16

I saw

1:00:18

someone when a lot of

1:00:20

this was starting, they're like, oh, it's

1:00:22

made by no one for no one. Yeah.

1:00:27

So it's all

1:00:29

a scam. Like any of you

1:00:31

probably heard like the dead internet

1:00:33

theory. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah,

1:00:36

it's just like bots feeding into bots

1:00:38

and bots talking to bots. And it's

1:00:41

just there's no real people doing anything because it's

1:00:43

all just bots talking to each other. Yeah, we're

1:00:47

more there than.

1:00:50

Yeah, it seems like we're more

1:00:52

there than not there these days. Yeah,

1:00:56

but then you how do you rescue

1:00:58

the internet from that? I

1:01:01

mean, they'll always be, you know,

1:01:03

people like Twitter just dies, right?

1:01:05

And blue sky now

1:01:07

is 10 million accounts. It went from a million

1:01:09

to 10 million in like a month. How

1:01:12

many of those are bots? Very

1:01:14

few, very few. Right. You

1:01:17

know, I know

1:01:19

I have I have definitely shut on Reddit

1:01:21

on and off, but I've sort of actually

1:01:23

kind of did a bit

1:01:25

of a turn on Reddit. It's

1:01:28

not great, but it is actual

1:01:31

people. So it's I

1:01:35

think I

1:01:38

think if you if you like Twitter,

1:01:40

I think if you can

1:01:43

really, you know, fine

1:01:46

tune your your your Reddit

1:01:48

experience and stay out of sort of the general

1:01:52

pop some work. Yeah,

1:01:55

yeah. Yeah. I

1:01:58

think I I actually have turned

1:02:00

around on Reddit a little bit. I'm

1:02:06

not saying it's great or even needed,

1:02:08

but it's... All

1:02:11

you got to do is follow r slash dog. You're

1:02:15

good. Yeah, I think it

1:02:17

does hit a

1:02:20

little bit of that. That,

1:02:23

you know, what I

1:02:25

liked about Twitter Reddit gives me a

1:02:27

little bit of that. Yeah,

1:02:30

pretty soon. They'll break that too.

1:02:32

Yeah. People running Reddit

1:02:34

aren't great either. Yeah, yeah, I've heard.

1:02:36

I've heard. And when you start

1:02:39

having run-ins with Reddit mods over stupid rules,

1:02:42

you'll start being like, I hate this actually.

1:02:44

That's the problem. It's the posting. I

1:02:47

think it's fun to browse. I am not a...

1:02:51

Oh, well, that's fine. Very minimal on

1:02:53

posting. Yeah. Yeah. I

1:02:59

think that's where the difference is. Yeah.

1:03:02

But yeah. Nope.

1:03:06

Nope. Don't

1:03:09

follow r slash pics. I

1:03:11

don't follow. All it is is US political

1:03:14

meme stuff. Yeah, I don't follow any of

1:03:16

that stuff. Nonsense.

1:03:19

Yeah. Yeah.

1:03:26

So anyway, AI, we're going to be able to be like,

1:03:28

hey, I have

1:03:31

all this random food. What can I cook with it?

1:03:35

And I'll give you a recipe. You'll

1:03:38

be like, I have half an onion, six bananas, a

1:03:41

jar of mayonnaise, 16

1:03:44

strawberries, some

1:03:48

black pepper and a can

1:03:50

of spam. What do I make? That

1:03:54

will just be your life. Or

1:04:00

at least that's the kind of thing they want people

1:04:02

to think is really cool. Yeah. I

1:04:05

don't know who... I

1:04:08

don't know who is the... You know,

1:04:10

the reason I'm like, well, is this just

1:04:12

because we're old, Ryan? Like, it's

1:04:15

hard for me not to second-guess things a lot

1:04:17

more because it's like... There's

1:04:19

so many... It seems like there's so many more stupid

1:04:21

people who just like... Don't

1:04:24

know they can just use their phones to look up

1:04:26

anything. Mm-hmm. You know what I mean?

1:04:28

So it's like, are these the people it's targeting? The people

1:04:30

who like... You

1:04:32

know, like you've seen all

1:04:34

those stories about how this is the

1:04:36

current generation, you know, entering the workforce

1:04:39

and all that, is the first generation

1:04:41

that is less technically savvy than the

1:04:43

previous generation. Yeah. Right? Is

1:04:45

this who it's for? Maybe. The people who just

1:04:47

don't know any better? Yeah,

1:04:51

I think they're... You know, like this

1:04:53

is where my second-guessing comes in. I

1:04:56

think this is for the people that

1:04:58

want to talk into the remote, to tell their

1:05:01

remote play

1:05:03

Game of Thrones. Like... It's like my

1:05:05

dad. Nobody wants to do that. Oh,

1:05:08

my dad totally does it? I think it's

1:05:10

for... Yeah,

1:05:16

it's for a certain group of people, let's just

1:05:18

say. I don't know what you mean to your

1:05:20

dad. It's just like... I

1:05:23

mean, he's totally the kind of person who's

1:05:25

like, hey, Google, what's the temperature tomorrow? You

1:05:27

know, and it'll be like the temperature tomorrow

1:05:29

will be high. And

1:05:31

it's like, well, we already were doing that for

1:05:33

years, though. We didn't need this, whatever

1:05:36

this is from OpenAI. Yeah,

1:05:38

yeah, right. I don't know.

1:05:43

I mean, obviously enough people want

1:05:47

it, but I definitely... I

1:05:49

don't know. They said that about like VR as well.

1:05:54

And that turned out to be wrong. But

1:05:57

they keep putting it out there

1:05:59

and everything. They keep trying and there

1:06:01

are some people. So I

1:06:03

like a second guess. I just don't know what to think. It

1:06:07

baffles me. It just continues to baffle

1:06:09

me. Did you see that whatever open

1:06:11

AI's newest chat GPT

1:06:13

iteration, whatever it is, they

1:06:16

are banning people for

1:06:19

inquiring too hard into its

1:06:21

reasoning? No. Like

1:06:24

you'll ask it something. It'll tell you the

1:06:26

solution to whatever. And you can be like,

1:06:29

how did you arrive at this conclusion? They don't want you

1:06:31

to do that. Which

1:06:33

is just backwards to me. The idea that

1:06:35

it's like, no, no, I can't ask it

1:06:39

how it came to its conclusion. That seems

1:06:42

like it would be an important piece of information

1:06:44

open AI. Why are

1:06:46

you hiding? Why are you forbidding me from asking that? Yeah,

1:06:48

it's a weird one. Sounds

1:06:51

like a bit of an Orwellian nightmare coming

1:06:54

to life here, guys. So

1:06:58

yeah, just I don't

1:07:00

know. I hate that

1:07:02

now we have to

1:07:05

look like you'll be

1:07:07

looking at some random

1:07:10

article on some random website. I'll

1:07:13

always be reading carefully being like, did a human

1:07:16

write this? Does this

1:07:18

sound like AI? And

1:07:20

any new piece of art, I'll be like, I

1:07:25

always will ask on Reddit when people

1:07:27

post art to some of the subs.

1:07:29

I'm like, that's cool. Is it AI?

1:07:33

Yeah. I

1:07:36

think the people I follow on

1:07:38

Blue Sky and Facebook,

1:07:41

they all hate AI. Everything, the one of them,

1:07:43

they're never going to post something. A couple of

1:07:45

people that do, I've unfollowed or blocked. Any

1:07:51

sort of AI used for artwork and music

1:07:53

or any of that is met with incredible

1:07:56

scoring immediately. Right.

1:07:58

But the thing is, yeah. I

1:08:00

don't read articles by random people on

1:08:02

random websites. It seems

1:08:04

like that's

1:08:06

just the case. What we're describing is widespread.

1:08:08

People are like, no, no, no, I don't

1:08:10

want that. But the fact is that you

1:08:13

even like things that you second guess, like

1:08:15

there's a piece of art

1:08:17

for the upcoming Arkham Horror card game expansion,

1:08:20

where it's just like all these people's fingers look like

1:08:22

they only have like four fingers on each hand or

1:08:24

whatever. It's like a stylized piece of art. And everybody's

1:08:26

like, is that AI? Or is

1:08:28

it just bad? It's

1:08:32

causing those kinds

1:08:34

of conversations to happen. And

1:08:37

I don't like it. I don't like what

1:08:39

that does to us, where

1:08:41

we have to go, wait a minute, at everything. I just

1:08:43

don't like that. Everything

1:08:46

made in the last two years, any piece of artwork, you

1:08:48

have to go, hold on, is this real? I

1:08:52

don't like it. But

1:09:01

at least you'll be able to,

1:09:03

AI will be able to tell you when your

1:09:05

mom's playing with it. There was no way for

1:09:07

you to figure out that information before. Yeah,

1:09:11

I like to physically look it up

1:09:13

and make

1:09:16

sure I get it. I

1:09:18

don't want to be like.

1:09:20

Yeah, even if the AI tells you, you're going

1:09:22

to be like, let me just double check anyway.

1:09:24

Right, right, right. I

1:09:27

don't know if I trust you. You

1:09:30

can't seem to figure out fingers. Well,

1:09:42

this has been the latest episode of AI Skeptic.

1:09:49

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1:09:53

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1:09:56

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