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there in tonight's case is a,
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well, when it came out, it
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was a mysterious disappearance and... I
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would say when a couple disappears,
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typically you think, well, did they
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disappear together? Did the husband do
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it? Get rid of the wife
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and then take off. There's so
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many different rabbit holes you can go
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down and things. And this is one
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of those cases where, you know, if
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you don't know much about it, you
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can go down some rabbit holes
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and think some different things before.
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we get to the resolution. So
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I found it very interesting to
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read about how this all unfolds.
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What are we talking about tonight?
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Well, tonight we're talking about the
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November 16th 1998 disappearance of Christopher
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Benedetto and his wife Jeanette Piero
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in Singer Island, Florida. And it
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doesn't remain a disappearance, at least
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for the most part. But yes,
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this is definitely a case that
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I found to be very interesting.
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So who were these people? Christopher
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J. Benedetto was born February 9th,
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1956. Now he and his future
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wife were originally from Flushing Queens.
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He grew up fishing and enjoy
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going to Florida when he could.
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And as an adult, Christopher worked
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as a carpenter and even ran
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his own small business. The couple,
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Christopher and Jeanette, met while he
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was renovating his sister's house. He
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was the contractor and Jeanette was
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the interior designer. And according to
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Chris's brother Michael, there was this
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instant attraction between the two. And
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because they were so close, they
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had such a great time together,
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they ended up getting married in
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1990 while on a trip to
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Florida. In 1995, Chris was working
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a job and fell from some
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scaffolding and got a serious injury.
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The accident resulted in multiple surgeries
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and he ended up having to
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have some rods placed in his
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back. He became permanently disabled and
3:23
could no longer work. This is
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going to cause him chronic pain
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and he ended up walking with
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a cane and Jeanette helped him
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during his recovery. But according to
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the Palm Beach Post, Chris will
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end up winning a $2 million
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settlement from the construction sites, contractors,
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insurance. The doctor advised him to
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leave New York because if he
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ever slipped and fell on the
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ice he could be paralyzed for
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life and as we know New
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York streets are pretty dangerous when
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it comes to people and ice
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and all the weather. So Florida
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seems like the best choice for
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him to go and live a
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better life in. Yeah, and Chris
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already loved Florida and Jeanette was
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all too happy to go with
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him. So they purchased a house
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and an upscale community and they
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became close friends with their neighbors.
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In 1997, Chris and Jeanette founded
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Dolfon Enterprises Inc. A boat brokerage
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But the company wasn't that successful.
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Chris spent most of his time
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fishing and the Palm Beach Post
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reported that he went out every
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day. He absolutely loved it. And
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that leads us to November of
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1998 because it's that morning, early
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morning, on November 11th when Chris
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got up early to go fishing.
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This is a typical day for
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Chris. He loves fishing. He lives
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in Florida. He's living the life.
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Janet went to the spa with
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her friends that day and she
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and Chris had plans to meet
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up with their neighbors for dinner.
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She was seen by neighbors in
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the afternoon and it was thought
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that she and Chris were supposed
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to go show up for dinner,
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but it's about a half hour
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later that they're supposed to go
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to this dinner party and they're
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not showing up. Now, they're neighbors,
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you know, this is not like,
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hey Aaron, we got a dinner
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party going on next month. You
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live across town, you're running late,
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this is your neighbor. And so
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when they're not showing up, the
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neighbors are thinking, hey, where are
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you? They're calling, they're going, they're
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going next door, knocking on the
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door, saying, is everything okay? David
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Nicholson and his wife were concerned
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because Chris and Jeanette didn't show
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up. Nicholson's wife asked another neighbor
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to knock on the door and
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check on the couple. Like we
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said, people were calling, they were
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checking. And they also noticed that
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the forerunner that belonged to Chris
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and Jeanette was missing. David Nicholson.
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talked with the Palm Beach post
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saying it was so uncharacteristic of
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them you couldn't ask for better
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neighbors and we spent a lot
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of time with them. So you
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know when you ask someone what
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do you know about this and
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they would say every time there
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were plans we would meet up
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and this is the first time
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it never happened and now we
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don't know where they are that's
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about as big a red flag
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as you can get and after
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a few days with no word
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from the couple neighbors called Chris's
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relatives in New York. This was
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on November 14th. The neighbors were
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worried. Newspapers were piling up on
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their door. Mail was piling up
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in the mailbox. These are all
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great neighbors. They have keys to
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each other's houses because they can
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house it and look after each
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other's pets and whatnot. So they
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let themselves into Chris and Jeanette's
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house with the keys. And they
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found no sign of Christopher and
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Jeanette. There was no sign of
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any kind of any kind of
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trip. Suitcases and medications, Chris's wallet
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and cell phone were all there,
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present in the home. He had
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also left thousands of dollars worth
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of fishing gear on his boat
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and had left the motor running.
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So what happened here? They just
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disappeared. So this gets all the
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way back to Chris's brothers, Michael
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and Paul. They flew into Florida
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on November 18th. and reported him
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missing on November 19th, according to
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the Palm Beach Post. Their cousin
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Arthur Esposito, a detective in Titusville,
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Florida, also got involved in the
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search efforts because they have law
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enforcement backgrounds in their family. Michael
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and Paul stayed in Chris and
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Jeanette's home while they were in
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Florida, because they're just like, well,
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if they come home, we're here,
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what's the point of getting a
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hotel? Maybe we'll find some more
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evidence here. Maybe they'll call, maybe
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something will happen. And we know
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they're gone, we know something bad
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has happened, so this is where
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they set up their search headquarters.
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Now they know the Toyota forerunner
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is missing. So if the couple's
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gone, maybe they drove off in
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that. The other vehicle that the
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couple owned was a BMW that
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was in the garage. So the
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police who were notified this couple
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was missing, they issued be on
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the lookout for that vehicle, the
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forerunner that was missing. and by
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November 20th the FBI was involved
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in the search due to the
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unusual circumstances and time delay since
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the couple disappeared. Chris and Jeanette's
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neighbors had also called her sister
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Regina who lived in New Jersey
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and her husband Michael Coblin came
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to Florida to help. He went
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to different marinas in the area
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and he spoke to someone who
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said Chris and Jeanette went on
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a friend's boat to the Bahamas
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and would be back. According to
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oxygen... you can get to the
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Bahamas easily from Singer Island. It's
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about 70 miles away and it
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takes three hours if the conditions
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are good, but in November, well,
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there are strong winds and currents
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which can be dangerous. And at
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no point did they say they
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were going on this trip to
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the Bahamas. They were supposed to
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have dinner plans, but this is
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the only lead that at least
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Michael's come up with thus far.
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Family friend Ben Demonstrante, who lived
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close to the couple, allowed them
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to dock their boat on his
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waterfront property. And Chris and Jeanette
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used this boat for deep sea
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fishing. Demonstrante thought it was unusual
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for Chris and Jeanette to leave
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without telling anyone, since they weren't
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known as a spontaneous couple. Now
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it's on November 21st that the
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missing forerunner is found in a
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parking lot of the Embassy Sweets
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Hotel and Palm Beach Shores. However
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oxygen reported that the vehicle was
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found on the night of November
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16th, but a few days difference.
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Not sure if it matters. at
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this point in the investigation, police
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thought it was possible. They left
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the vehicle when meeting with friends
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for their alleged trip to the
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Bahamas. So they're thinking, well, if
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they did go to the Bahamas,
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they parked their vehicle at this
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hotel and then went from there.
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But the search effort's been going
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on. They don't know where they
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are, and we have family members
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staying at the home. But they're
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about to wrap things up because
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they're done with their search. They
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feel like they don't have any
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more they can do. So they're
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like, okay, you know what, let's
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just close the house up. Let's
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turn off anything that's running because
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we don't want to run the
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electricity bill up. So they go
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down into the garage to turn
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off a deep freeze freezer. And
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what happens next, Aaron? Yeah, unfortunately,
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Chris's brothers. as you said they're
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going through the home, they get
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into the garage and they're shutting
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up this freezer and they discover
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Jeanette's body inside the freezer in
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the garage. At first they weren't
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able to tell who it was
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because this person was put in
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the freezer head first and upside
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down, but upon closer inspection they
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realized this was Jeanette. She had
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ligature marks on her neck as
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well as a braided rope double
11:17
tied around her neck. the freezer
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appeared to have been purposefully hidden
11:21
behind the BMW. And Jeanette's sister,
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Regina, flew down to Florida to
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make the official identification on November
11:27
24th. And this is a terrible
11:29
discovery. I mean, I don't fault
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them for not going and searching
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the entire home, especially a deep
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freeze in the garage, because they're
11:38
thinking this couple's missing. Their vehicle
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is found miles away. It's possible
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they went to the Bahamas. I
11:44
mean I'm sure they walked through
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the house, but we have what?
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Eight people in the house, including
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neighbors and family, walking through the
11:53
house. If this was a crime
11:55
scene... That's kind of tainted now,
11:57
don't you think? Yeah, it's possible,
11:59
but when they say eight people,
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it actually doesn't sound that bad
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to me. It's just if one
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of those eight people or more
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of them are involved in what's
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happened here, that's a real problem.
12:12
But I was surprised it wasn't
12:14
more than eight. And at this
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point, Aaron, I'm thinking, well, they've
12:18
been missing. Now we've found the
12:20
wife's body at the home. Husbands
12:22
still missing. I'm thinking husband killed
12:25
the wife and took the wife
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and took off. That's my normal
12:29
train of thought here. And it
12:31
makes sense, although, as far as
12:33
we can tell, everyone believed that
12:35
this was a very close couple.
12:37
And so where's the motive? But
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I guess we're going to get
12:42
to that and talk more about
12:44
what happened here, but there were
12:46
questions about this. How come so
12:48
many people are allowed to go
12:50
through the house? And the official
12:52
who responded to this said, we
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couldn't see anything that led us
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to believe a crime had been
12:58
committed, the crime scene would have
13:01
already been contaminated. And the Palm
13:03
Beach Post reported that police walked
13:05
through the house on November 20th
13:07
and asked the family to stay
13:09
out of certain areas until they
13:11
could get a search warrant. So
13:13
there was some idea that, you
13:15
know, there are certain things they
13:18
want to look at, but no
13:20
way in any shape or form
13:22
did they expect to find a
13:24
body in the house. Chris's cousin
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Esposito recalled that when he first
13:28
went into the house, he smelled
13:30
Clorox or Lysol, some kind of
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cleaning agent, but he didn't think
13:35
much of it because of it
13:37
because... Hey, Chris always kept his
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house very clean. And this is
13:41
a nice neighborhood. This is a
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nice house. You clean things up.
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So even though he kind of
13:47
was like, I think I smell
13:49
something, that didn't trigger any alarm
13:51
bills for him. Esposito said several
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New York City officers came down
13:56
to help with the search. They
13:58
looked at the home, but understood
14:00
that it had already been contaminated
14:02
by the neighbors and the family
14:04
that had been there. They checked
14:06
for blood and signs of struggle.
14:08
They checked the carpet for discoloration,
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they didn't find anything that indicated
14:13
there had been a crime committed
14:15
here. It was actually Chris's brother
14:17
Paul who first discovered Jeanette in
14:19
the freezer and when he did
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discover her he screamed he stumbled
14:23
backward and he ran into the
14:25
living room. Mike then saw the
14:28
body and broke down and it
14:30
was Arthur Esposito who called 911.
14:32
Now Esposito said it was tucked
14:34
underneath a counter like a workbench.
14:36
He's explaining where the freezer was.
14:38
You had to walk around the
14:40
BMW parked on the far side
14:42
of the garage to get to
14:44
it. You couldn't open the lid
14:47
without pulling it out. So obviously
14:49
someone put Jeanette in the freezer
14:51
and they moved it so that
14:53
it wouldn't be an obvious place
14:55
to look anyway if you were
14:57
just walking around. You wouldn't even
14:59
notice it. You have to move
15:01
the car too to get this
15:04
freezer pulled out. Like they really
15:06
took the time to get this
15:08
out of the way. So investigators...
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They're thinking it's possible that Chris
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Benedetto killed his wife Jeanette Piero
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and then fled because the forerunner's
15:16
missing. And so they started looking
15:18
into the couple's background searching for
15:21
new leads. Riviera Beach detective Pat
15:23
Galligan said, everyone is a suspect
15:25
including Mr. Benedetto, family, friends, associates,
15:27
were exploring every avenue. And for
15:29
Arthur, he thought the motive had
15:31
to do with Chris and Jeanette's
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money because they had that settlement.
15:35
that payout from his injury. Which
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that kind of gives motive. We've
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seen it happen in other cases,
15:42
whether it's life insurance policies or
15:44
payouts. Or lottery winnings. Yeah, there's
15:46
a whole litany of things that
15:48
give people motive. So this makes
15:50
sense. We found her body and
15:52
he's missing. He's the prime suspect.
15:54
Jeanette's autopsy was completed December 1st.
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It was obvious that Jeanette had
15:59
been strangled. Chief Medical Examiner Dr.
16:01
Martin said the body's frozen condition
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made it easy to cause of
16:05
death, but not time of death.
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Obviously, investigators are looking at everyone,
16:09
and one of the early suspects
16:11
was Jeanette's brother-in-law, Michael Coblan. The
16:14
investigators looked at bank records and
16:16
saw that there was no activity
16:18
since the couple were last confirmed
16:20
to be alive. And when the
16:22
police spoke to Chris and Jeanette's
16:24
neighbor Ben Devastranti, they learned that
16:26
Devastranti heard Chris and an unknown
16:28
man near Chris's boat around 8
16:31
AM on November 11th. and Ben
16:33
heard Chris say grab the rods
16:35
before the boat departed. Now he
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didn't think much of it at
16:39
the time because that sounds like
16:41
something that Chris would say before
16:43
he went fishing. The boat returned
16:45
a couple hours later and parked
16:47
at his dock, but Chris wasn't
16:50
on the boat. The unknown man
16:52
then got in Chris's vehicle and
16:54
drove off. This is huge because
16:56
you have a neighbor who knows
16:58
Chris very well, knows his vehicle.
17:00
and is seeing someone else show
17:02
back up without Chris and driving
17:04
off in Chris's vehicle. I mean
17:07
this is the first lead they've
17:09
had here and now is this
17:11
man in cahoots with Chris or
17:13
has this man disposed of Chris?
17:15
Yeah so detectives they searched Chris's
17:17
boat and Dimonstrante noticed the second
17:19
anchor was missing. Ropes missing from
17:21
the boat matched the rope used
17:24
on Jeanette. Investigators brought in Chris's
17:26
brothers and Michael Coblan. to Ben
17:28
Domenstrante to see if he recognized
17:30
any of them. And Ben told
17:32
investigators that Michael Coblan was the
17:34
man with Chris on the morning
17:36
of November 11th. So they are
17:38
going to bring him in for
17:40
an interview. During his interview, Michael
17:43
Coblan said he was in New
17:45
Jersey when Chris and Jeanette disappeared
17:47
as wife Regina supported his alibi,
17:49
saying, yep, he was back here.
17:51
So this is... kind of hard
17:53
to pin down who was where
17:55
at the time of their disappearance.
17:57
Yeah and Regina is supporting his
18:00
alibi and that's Jeanette's sister. Now
18:02
relatives they're surprised by this accusation
18:04
because according to them Chris and
18:06
Michael were very close and they
18:08
wondered if somehow Ben demonstrate the
18:10
neighbor was mistaken. Now Coblan was
18:12
a frequent visitor to Chris and
18:14
Jeanette's home. Chris and Michael owned
18:17
a trucking company together called Mark
18:19
Industries. Coblan held 51% interest. Chris
18:21
held 49. Chris invested most of
18:23
his settlement into this venture. Now
18:25
when the police checked Coblan's American
18:27
Express card, they found that a
18:29
third party named Mike Kerry booked
18:31
a flight on November 10th 1998,
18:34
which is the day before, from
18:36
when this all went down, from
18:38
Newark New Jersey to West Palm
18:40
Beach, and this Mike Kerry flew
18:42
back on November 12th. So of
18:44
course the police want to know
18:46
who's Mike Kerry. Yeah, that's very
18:48
convenient to have somebody flying down
18:50
from exactly where you are located
18:53
to exactly where this crime is
18:55
committed and then fly home. Yeah,
18:57
the day before and the day
18:59
after, it's so strange. So they
19:01
want to know who this is.
19:03
In June of 1999, they found
19:05
phone records indicating that a Florida
19:07
number called Regina Coblan's mobile phone
19:10
on the day Chris and Jeanette
19:12
disappeared. So an investigator called the
19:14
number and learned that it was
19:16
for the Rutledge Inn. which is
19:18
a hotel within walking distance of
19:20
Chris and Jeanette's house. So they're
19:22
looking through hotel records. Investigators found
19:24
a registration card for Mike Kerry.
19:27
And get this, there's an address
19:29
with it which matched Michael Coblin's
19:31
address in brick Township, New Jersey.
19:33
So investigators are thinking maybe this
19:35
Mike Kerry person doesn't exist and
19:37
it's an alias being used by
19:39
a certain someone else, right? Yeah,
19:41
so they bring in handwriting experts
19:43
from the FBI who after analysis
19:46
are very certain that might carry
19:48
well. That's Michael Copeland because their
19:50
writing is so similar. So now
19:52
they have evidence that Michael Copeland
19:54
was on Singer Island when Chris
19:56
and Jeanette disappeared. So it doesn't
19:58
matter how close they were. I
20:00
mean, people said that about couples
20:03
where one killed the other. So
20:05
the police go back to Chris's
20:07
financial records and learned that Chris
20:09
loaned Michael $165,000. And it's in
20:11
November 2000, Chris's family sued. the
20:13
Coblins to recover that loan because
20:15
apparently he wasn't paying it back.
20:17
Chris's family pressured the Riviera Beach
20:20
police and federal investigators to solve
20:22
the murders and we're now offering
20:24
a hundred thousand dollar reward saying,
20:26
hey, we think we have the
20:28
suspects here, there's motive here, now
20:30
we're going to offer a reward
20:32
hoping that they start turning on
20:34
each other. And at this point,
20:37
the Coblins will end up filing
20:39
for bankruptcy. because of this lawsuit.
20:41
Now, Chris's family pressured the Riviera
20:43
Beach police and federal investigators to
20:45
solve the murders and offered a
20:47
$100,000 reward, but this lawsuit that
20:49
was filed against the Koblin's, well,
20:51
that petition was dismissed in August
20:53
of 2002. Investigators worked with the
20:56
Department of Justice to review phone
20:58
records from the boat Coblin stayed
21:00
on while on Singer Island. They
21:02
found that someone on the boat
21:04
called DeAngelis Jewelers. in New York
21:06
City during his stay. So they're
21:08
looking into this and they discover
21:10
that Jeanette's engagement ring, diamond earrings,
21:13
and her watches were missing. Jeanette
21:15
had recorded a video in July
21:17
of 1998 showing her valuables for
21:19
insurance purposes. And Chris's safe deposit
21:21
box contained certification from DeAngelis Jewelers
21:23
showing the valuables were worth $58,300.
21:25
So in May of 2003, the
21:27
investigators visited Deangelis Jewelers. and a
21:30
worker confirmed that Michael Coblan is
21:32
a person who came in to
21:34
sell a ring. believed to belong
21:36
to Jeanette Piero, but there's no
21:38
receipt for the transactions. They just
21:40
recall this happening. So they have
21:42
some evidence pointing at Michael Coblan,
21:44
but these investigators, they don't feel
21:46
like they have enough evidence. But
21:49
the jeweler told the police that
21:51
Michael had an appointment in a
21:53
few weeks and agreed to wear
21:55
a wire. So maybe they'll be
21:57
able to collect some evidence here.
21:59
And at one point during the
22:01
appointment, the jeweler had asked Michael,
22:03
what if... and they're referring to
22:06
the investigators. What if they come
22:08
in asking about the pieces? And
22:10
Michael responded, as far as I'm
22:12
concerned, you never saw them again,
22:14
because all that would do is
22:16
definitely throw me under the bus.
22:18
So there's an understanding here, he's
22:20
doing something illegal, but he's going
22:23
to do it anyway. I guess
22:25
this is worth the risk. A
22:27
quick recap here. He said he
22:29
was in Jersey. but another person
22:31
under the name of what might
22:33
carry or something goes down to
22:35
Florida at the same time stays
22:37
at a hotel the registration handwriting
22:39
matches his then they have financial
22:42
records and then they have somebody
22:44
who's claiming he's selling all of
22:46
the wife's jewelry to this jewelry
22:48
shop. I think we're connecting the
22:50
dots here. Yeah, so on June
22:52
27th 2003 investigators finally feel like
22:54
they have enough and Michael Coblin
22:56
was arrested on five charges two
22:59
counts of murder stalking stealing over
23:01
$100,000 worth of jewelry and transporting
23:03
it out of state and Conspiring
23:05
with another to hinder the investigation
23:07
So according to the investigation, it's
23:09
believed that Michael and Chris went
23:11
out on Chris's boat and argued
23:13
about the loan Coblin then incapacitated
23:16
Chris tied him to the anchor
23:18
and threw him overboard The currents
23:20
would have carried his body out
23:22
into the ocean, meaning they'll probably
23:24
never be located. Then Coblan killed
23:26
Jeanette because she could have identified
23:28
him as the last person with
23:30
Chris. So they're saying there's a
23:33
co-conspirator here, Justin, but... It's not
23:35
named in the indictment, although we
23:37
could probably guess that it's Regina,
23:39
Jeanette's sister. Yeah, because she's the
23:41
one that tried to back up
23:43
his alibi when questioned about where
23:45
he was on the day of
23:47
the disappearance. And she communicated with
23:49
her husband by phone when he
23:52
was out of town when she
23:54
said he wasn't out of town.
23:56
It's just, it's so strange. She
23:58
knew where he was and she
24:00
lied to investigators. So Michael and
24:02
this unnamed co-conspirator lied to investigators
24:04
about his whereabouts on the day
24:06
of the disappearance, claiming he was
24:09
in New Jersey, the co-conspirator told
24:11
the same lie under oath in
24:13
a bankruptcy proceeding on April 11th
24:15
2002. This is the day that
24:17
Regina Coblin gave sworn testimony in
24:19
the bankruptcy case, so again we
24:21
can do this simple math. So
24:23
they're being sued for the $165,000.
24:26
They're doing a bankruptcy case. and
24:28
she has now repeated this lie
24:30
but once under oath, so not
24:32
a good look. The indictment also
24:34
said that Coblan and the co-conspirator
24:36
lied about the financial relationship between
24:38
Chris and Coblan and would harass,
24:40
intimidate, and threaten potential witnesses. In
24:42
March 1999, Michael Coblan was beaten
24:45
outside an office complex in West
24:47
Orange. He was in critical condition
24:49
and was unable to talk. His
24:51
skull was fractured and his pants
24:53
and underwear were torn off. Now
24:55
the police, they never determined if
24:57
this was related to the murders.
24:59
I mean, what do you think?
25:02
This is strange, right? I mean,
25:04
how do you see this, Justin,
25:06
that Michael Coblan has beaten severely,
25:08
and his clothes are ripped off
25:10
in 1999? March of 1999. Either
25:12
this is a random act of
25:14
violence, or Chris and Jeanette's family
25:16
members and loved ones, or thinking,
25:19
Justice isn't working fast enough. Well,
25:21
I think there's another possibility. I
25:23
mean... He's obviously been in some
25:25
dire straits and who knows who
25:27
else he's at odds with. But
25:29
yeah, it's a real good question
25:31
about what happened to him, but
25:33
yeah, he wasn't able to talk.
25:35
Now obviously Michael Copeland goes on
25:38
trial. That's February 28th 2005. The
25:40
prosecution argued that Michael Copeland killed
25:42
Chris Benedito on his boat and
25:44
then returned to the house to
25:46
kill Jeanette. He traveled to Florida
25:48
using the alias Mike Kerry. and
25:50
he killed Chris because he still
25:52
owed him $95,000 in business loans.
25:55
Documents presented at trial showed the
25:57
trucking company had no federal or
25:59
state licenses and paid no taxes.
26:01
So they're kind of operating under
26:03
false pretenses here. The defense argued
26:05
that Michael came to Palm Beach
26:07
County to have an affair and
26:09
drug dealers killed Chris and Jeanette.
26:12
They pointed out that Michael cooperated
26:14
with police by giving fingerprints, writing
26:16
samples, DNA samples, and his family
26:18
helped pay for the funeral. Okay?
26:20
Just because you cooperated and helped
26:22
pay for a funeral doesn't mean
26:24
that you're innocent. And the fact
26:26
that you lied about going and
26:29
now they're saying, oh, he lied
26:31
because he was having an affair.
26:33
But then why would his wife
26:35
back up his alibi if he's
26:37
having a like? This defense is
26:39
a mess. Can we disagree on
26:41
that? No, I mean, you have
26:43
to do what you have to
26:45
do, and I don't know what
26:48
other path they could take here,
26:50
except for he did it, how
26:52
can we minimize this? And random
26:54
drug dealers killed him. Okay, well,
26:56
I realize that this is, you
26:58
know, the late 90s and cocaine
27:00
and scarface goes on in Florida,
27:02
but come on. Unless we can
27:05
point to Chris. having interactions with
27:07
drug dealers and a whole criminal
27:09
side life, I don't know where
27:11
this theory comes from. Well, we
27:13
see this a lot in criminal
27:15
cases, Justin. where the defense will
27:17
always come up with well-drug dealers
27:19
did this. Or roving bands of
27:22
Satanists, I don't know. So the
27:24
prosecution played a tape from Coblan's
27:26
lawsuit deposition where he said he
27:28
was in Florida the week the
27:30
police were searching for Chris and
27:32
Jeanette, but not the week before.
27:34
He claimed he could not remember
27:36
the last time he was in
27:38
Florida before the search. He said
27:41
he was already coming to Florida
27:43
for a fishing tournament in the
27:45
Bahamas. And an acquaintance of Michael's
27:47
testified, he did not know of
27:49
any tournament scheduled scheduled that week.
27:51
Scheduled that week. So the jury,
27:53
they listened to a tape of
27:55
Michael Coblan's interview, which took place
27:58
before Jeanette was found, but after
28:00
he was identified as the one
28:02
who drove off alone in Chris's
28:04
vehicle, Coblan insisted he was in
28:06
New Jersey at the time of
28:08
the murders. He said the witness
28:10
must be mistaken. Of course. Yeah,
28:12
they're mistaken. It doesn't know what
28:15
they're talking about. The cops are
28:17
arresting you and they find drugs
28:19
in your pants and you're like,
28:21
oh, they're not my pants. He
28:23
wrote a report two and a
28:25
half years after the murders and
28:27
it was six pages long. They
28:29
noted that no one did an
28:32
intense search of the home or
28:34
boat after Jeanette was found. Pain
28:36
testified that was because it started
28:38
off as a missing persons case
28:40
and the house was not considered
28:42
a crime scene at the time.
28:44
This reminds me of another case.
28:46
The prosecution presented the freezer where
28:48
Jeanette was found and argued that
28:51
Michael put her body in the
28:53
freezer, returned to New Jersey, and
28:55
planned to dispose of the body
28:57
the following week. but Jeanette was
28:59
frozen to the side so he
29:01
couldn't even move her. It's kind
29:03
of morbid, but this sounds like
29:05
a solid plan because he obviously
29:08
has gotten rid of Chris out
29:10
on the ocean and I'm assuming
29:12
he was planning to do the
29:14
same thing with Jeanette. Neighbour Thomas
29:16
LaRose testified that around 5.30 p.m.
29:18
on the evening of November 11th,
29:20
he his wife and another couple
29:22
were waiting for Chris to return
29:25
for fishing so they could all
29:27
go to dinner. Jeanette was in
29:29
her front yard and she said
29:31
she had talked to them and
29:33
they were on the way, meaning
29:35
Chris and whoever he was with.
29:37
However, Benjamin Demenstrante testified he heard
29:39
Chris talking to another man on
29:41
the morning of November 11th. He
29:44
saw Michael Copeland return alone at
29:46
11am. This was over six hours
29:48
before LaRose said Jeanette described her
29:50
call from Chris. So at trial,
29:52
Thomas LaRose was unsure of the
29:54
exact words that Jeanette said because
29:56
his wife is saying, I heard
29:58
Jeanette say Chris. But Thomas the
30:01
Rose hadn't testified to that effect.
30:03
And so the defense was trying
30:05
to pick this apart, saying, you
30:07
don't even know what Jeanette said.
30:09
But I find this to be
30:11
kind of a moot point. I
30:13
mean, there's a lot of other
30:15
evidence here. So Thomas the Rose,
30:18
he does testify. He talks about
30:20
seeing Chris's SUV in the driveway
30:22
on the evening of November 11th.
30:24
He said the departure for dinner
30:26
was delayed because someone had to
30:28
take a business call. He stepped
30:30
outside over 10 minutes later. anybody
30:32
leave in it. It's just gone
30:34
10 minutes later. And the owner
30:37
of a jewelry shop testified that
30:39
Michael Coblin came to her store
30:41
after Jeanette was found and offered
30:43
to sell her diamonds, but she
30:45
told him she didn't buy from
30:47
the public. And the jewelry store
30:49
owner, Larry Hoffman, testified that Coblin
30:51
showed him a ring that looked
30:54
like the one he designed for
30:56
Jeanette Piero, which was worth $58,000
30:58
or so. He also had two
31:00
pairs of earrings and a diamond
31:02
tennis bracelet. Altogether... this jewelry was
31:04
worth almost $94,000. So regardless of
31:06
whether there's a miscommunication in a
31:08
statement or whether he saw somebody
31:11
leave in an SUV, this jewelry
31:13
store owner is saying, now this
31:15
person came in to sell me
31:17
her jewelry, the dead woman's jewelry.
31:19
Like, so I guess it's all,
31:21
it doesn't really matter if you
31:23
saw him driving the SUV or
31:25
if somebody said them or him,
31:28
it doesn't matter anymore. Well, I'm
31:30
a big believer that one of
31:32
the things that defense attorneys like
31:34
to do in court, especially when
31:36
they have a difficult case, is
31:38
to sound perturbed about different aspects
31:40
of the case so that they
31:42
can appear frustrated and feel like
31:44
this case isn't as solid as
31:47
the prosecution wants it to seem
31:49
like it is and you know
31:51
hopefully embed something in the jury
31:53
to think well there are problems
31:55
with this even if the problems
31:57
don't really amount too much. It's
31:59
confusing the jury and trying to
32:01
poke holes and all the statements.
32:04
Now this jewelry store owner... testified
32:06
that Michael Coblin told him that
32:08
Jeanette was dead and Christopher was
32:10
missing. Coblin said he incurred a
32:12
lot of expenses during the search
32:14
and so he took the jewelry
32:16
from the safe trying to explain
32:18
why he had it. He said
32:21
I want you to fence it
32:23
and Hoffman agreed to do it.
32:25
This jewelry store owner agreed. Hoffman
32:27
warned Coblin he could only get
32:29
a fraction of the value because
32:31
it was a distress sale. He
32:33
sold the jewelry in Manhattan for
32:35
$25,000 and took $2,000 commission. So
32:37
the FBI agents caught Hoffman and
32:40
offered him partial immunity if he
32:42
would wear a wire for another
32:44
meeting with Coblin. Hoffman testified under
32:46
an agreement that his testimony could
32:48
not be used against him. I
32:50
mean, because he's obviously bought jewelry
32:52
that he knew was stolen or
32:54
from a bad place. So they're
32:57
saying, hey, we're not going to
32:59
go after you for this, if
33:01
you wear this wire, work with
33:03
us and get this guy to
33:05
admit what he did and where
33:07
the origin of this jewelry is
33:09
from. So on this tape, the
33:11
jurors are hearing Coblan telling Hoffman
33:14
that the authorities can't know what
33:16
they did because all that would
33:18
do is would definitely throw me
33:20
under the bus. And on this
33:22
tape, Coblan apologized for getting Hoffman
33:24
involved and actually recommended a lawyer
33:26
and Hoffman asked, what if they
33:28
asked about the pieces? And like
33:30
we said earlier, Coblan responded, as
33:33
far as I'm concerned, you never
33:35
saw them again. He promised the
33:37
police would never get a word
33:39
out of me no matter what.
33:41
Why do I need a lawyer?
33:43
Why do I need any of
33:45
these things, except this is just
33:47
a regular transaction? The defense. They're
33:50
going to try to poke holes
33:52
in this. They're going to attack
33:54
Hoffman's credibility. They got him to
33:56
admit that his business was almost
33:58
completely cash, like a cash business,
34:00
no receipts, no records kept, which
34:02
a lot of businesses that are
34:04
cash businesses, it's because credit card
34:07
fees are high. And if you
34:09
are a criminal, you don't want
34:11
to report your profits or your
34:13
books to the IRS because you
34:15
don't want to pay taxes. So
34:17
The defense is saying this guy
34:19
is a criminal, this is why
34:21
you can't believe him, but this
34:24
is exactly why somebody who murdered
34:26
somebody would go sell high-priced jewelry
34:28
to somebody like this because they
34:30
don't keep logs or receipts or
34:32
anything too. So it kind of
34:34
works both ways, right? Yeah, and
34:36
they can say all this, but
34:38
once again, there's stuff that's being
34:40
recorded here and being played back
34:43
for the jury that they can
34:45
hear with their own ears. I
34:47
don't understand. how they can even
34:49
attempt the poke holes in this,
34:51
but I guess you have to
34:53
try. An FBI agent testified that
34:55
they were led to Hoffman based
34:57
on calls made to him by
35:00
Coblan, so they found him during
35:02
the investigation. The defense called three
35:04
witnesses. One of them was Coblan's
35:06
own daughter, Andrea. The defense argued
35:08
that Coblan could not have killed
35:10
Jeanette, stolen or jewelry, stuffed Jeanette's
35:12
body into the freezer, and cleaned
35:14
up in the 45-minute window laid
35:17
out by the prosecutors. So that's
35:19
their final shot to try and
35:21
clear their client. So now they've
35:23
gone from, he says he was
35:25
in New Jersey, he wasn't even
35:27
in Florida, to, yeah, I was
35:29
there, but I was having an
35:31
affair with somebody to, oh, well,
35:33
according to the prosecutor, there's only
35:36
a 45-minute timeline, and he couldn't
35:38
have done it in that 45-minute
35:40
timeline, which is completely disregarding the
35:42
lies, the made-up alibi. the witnesses
35:44
that lied to his alibi, then
35:46
him selling jewelry to a jewelry
35:48
store and what is this affair?
35:50
Who is the woman he's having
35:53
an affair with? Did they bring
35:55
her on the stand? Like nothing
35:57
they claim here is provable. They
35:59
did not bring any evidence to
36:01
back up their defense claims here.
36:03
They just tried to discredit everybody
36:05
and now they're saying it was
36:07
too small of a window for
36:10
him to commit this crime. Man,
36:12
Aaron. If I was on this
36:14
jury, I would have a hard
36:16
time looking at this defense and
36:18
taking it seriously. Well, they also,
36:20
the defense, pointed out that there
36:22
was no partnership in the trucking
36:24
firm because, you know, we talked
36:27
about Chris having a 49% stake
36:29
and Michael having a 51% stake,
36:31
but according to the defense, there's
36:33
no partnership. Chris had loaned Copeland
36:35
all the money for this. And
36:37
they said that the government was
36:39
desperate to find a motive, and
36:41
if there was reasonable doubt. Just
36:43
regarding the lawsuit to get this
36:46
money. Oh my God. Assistant U.S.
36:48
Attorney Stephen Carlton noted that Coblan
36:50
made many mistakes. He gave different
36:52
alibis. First he was home in
36:54
New Jersey, that he was fishing
36:56
in New England, then he was
36:58
having an affair with his ex-wife
37:00
in South Florida. So they came
37:03
up with somebody. They came up
37:05
with a name, but he said
37:07
that Coblan's big mistake was not
37:09
counting on investigators, looking at his
37:11
credit card and phone records or
37:13
analyzing handwriting samples. to link him
37:15
to the alias, Mike Kerry. I
37:17
mean, why is he coming up
37:20
with an alias, right? It's because
37:22
he's doing something wrong. He also
37:24
didn't count on a neighbor, meaning
37:26
Ben, seeing him come back alone
37:28
in Chris's boat, and also he
37:30
never counted on Jeanette's body getting
37:32
stuck to the sides of the
37:34
freezer, which prevented him from disposing
37:36
of Jeanette. So March 9, 2005,
37:39
Michael Coblan was convicted of all
37:41
five counts against him. First degree
37:43
murder, interstate stalking, killing a witness,
37:45
conspiracy to obstruct justice, and interstate
37:47
transport. of stolen property. And if
37:49
you're wondering about the killing of
37:51
a witness, that is Jeanette Piero.
37:53
I think this played out exactly
37:56
how it should, and I think
37:58
this investigation was pretty spot on.
38:00
Because again, while you're listening to
38:02
this, you think the husband was
38:04
he the one that did this,
38:06
and he got away with it
38:08
and disappeared. But then when you
38:10
find his boat came back, there
38:13
was other people. that were involved
38:15
and there's this whole conflict between
38:17
he and Copeland. Now Michael Copeland
38:19
he ended up dying December 28
38:21
2006 at a hospital in Springfield
38:23
Missouri it was due to congestive
38:25
heart failure but his case was
38:27
under appeal at the time of
38:29
his death and early the next
38:32
year on February 15th the US
38:34
Court of Appeals for the 11th
38:36
Circuit issued the following decision. After
38:38
review the court grants the motion
38:40
filed by defendant Michael Coblan's counsel
38:42
to dismiss this appeal as moot
38:44
because the defendant died in the
38:46
custody of the Bureau of Prisons
38:49
while his appeal remained pending before
38:51
this court. The court remands the
38:53
case to the district court to
38:55
vacate the judgment and dismiss the
38:57
indictment. So Justin this case obviously
38:59
one that could have been confusing
39:01
because Michael Coblan did his, I
39:03
guess his best, to obscure what
39:06
he was up to. He had
39:08
the support of his wife. But
39:10
here's the thing, when we see
39:12
criminals get caught and the evidence
39:14
starts to mount against them, it's
39:16
not because these people weren't thinking.
39:18
It wasn't because they didn't have
39:20
a plan. The problem is, is
39:23
you can't control everybody else. He
39:25
can't control whether or not a
39:27
neighbor will see him come back
39:29
without Chris. He can't control whether
39:31
someone else who knows his plan
39:33
or knows what he was up
39:35
to. He doesn't know whether they're
39:37
going to talk. He can't control
39:39
that. So when it comes down
39:42
to it. You can't control everything.
39:44
So if you think you can
39:46
get away with murder, you think
39:48
you can get away with crimes,
39:50
as long as one other person
39:52
knows. You're not safe. That's what
39:54
I would say because while he
39:56
had people who didn't talk He
39:59
had some who did and that's
40:01
all it took because you don't
40:03
have to believe the jewelry store
40:05
owner You don't have to believe
40:07
Hoffman, but what you can believe
40:09
is the recording that happened when
40:11
he was wearing the wire and
40:13
that should tell everyone everything they
40:16
need to know about how this
40:18
went down and why? Because it
40:20
was about the money That's why
40:22
he never paid Chris back. He
40:24
didn't want to lose any money
40:26
I don't want to say how
40:28
I would have done this and
40:30
gotten away with it, but why
40:32
would you bring the boat back?
40:35
Why not dump the boat somewhere,
40:37
you know, and then leave? Why
40:39
go try to sell this jewelry?
40:41
There's so many ways I'm like,
40:43
you could have just burned the
40:45
boat in the middle of the
40:47
ocean and no one would have
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known, swam back to shore, you
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could have taken this jewelry and
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gone to the other side of
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the country or another country. and
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sold it for money. There's a
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hundred ways where he could have
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concealed his activities here, but thank
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God criminals are dumb and this
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guy got caught. There was such
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a witness trail and paper trail
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pointing back to him. Yeah, it
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didn't work and it so often
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doesn't, but thankfully the investigators were
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able to follow everything he did.
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