2:00

Let's go. I know. Let's go.

2:02

I can't wait to catch up and like, and

2:04

see what journey you're on right now and what chapter

2:06

you're in, but I could just tell you right now,

2:09

whatever you're on, keep it going, dude. Like you walked

2:11

in and you were a bright light. Oh, thank you.

2:13

I know, you know, I've, I

2:16

recently was going through a

2:18

lot and I noticed like every time I tried

2:20

to control something, it just would keep getting worse.

2:23

And recently, like my

2:25

previous fight, when I fought Rose, I

2:28

hit a breaky point where I was like, you know what

2:30

God, like I surrender. I give it up. Like whatever journey

2:32

you want me on, like I'm done trying to

2:34

control it. And ever since I kind of just surrendered

2:37

that, you know, I

2:39

hit like this, like this level

2:41

of peace and happiness. And I'm just flowing, like, feel

2:43

like problems are coming and I'm just sitting there like,

2:45

oh, it's okay. Like this is where I'm supposed

2:47

to be. You're walking on water.

2:49

Literally. That's the feeling of walking on water. I

2:52

just listened to a sermon too. That was about

2:54

this, you know, talking to like the control freak

2:56

in you and that when you just

2:58

let go, and you stop standing in the way

3:00

of what God has for you, because it's not

3:02

us and it's him, then he can let his

3:04

blessings happen. But if we stand in his way,

3:07

you know, we're going to mess things up. You know,

3:09

the gospel is kind of a little mirror to who

3:11

we are. And you were Jacob

3:14

at the time wrestling with God, but

3:16

I kind of want to talk to you a little

3:18

bit about this because I find it fascinating that you

3:20

not only actually wrestle people to the ground, but

3:22

you wrestle in that spiritual realm. Do you

3:24

see a contrast to

3:27

the feeling of both? Yeah,

3:29

very much. I mean,

3:31

and I don't know if you guys can relate,

3:34

but I was for a moment kind of getting

3:36

introduced to like this very dark world that

3:39

I'm coming up, you know, as an

3:41

athlete, and I could either get

3:43

pulled a certain direction or this direction, you

3:46

know, and every time I kept, I felt

3:48

like I kept slipping towards over here and

3:50

something would happen and would push me over

3:52

here. Your mother's prayer. Right, yeah. And

3:55

then I realized as I started getting, you know, my

3:57

relationship with God and I started getting closer to him.

4:00

I said, man, my mom, like, if

4:02

it weren't for her, I wouldn't be

4:04

leaning on God as much as I am.

4:07

Like, it's my duty now to seek that

4:09

relationship, but she really engraved her faith in

4:11

me. Amen. And that's kind of like-

4:13

She built the foundation so you're her fruits, and

4:15

when she was in the garden with you, she didn't

4:17

just rush it and just plant and plant. She took

4:20

her time. That time she put, when

4:22

you couldn't see it at the time, was when

4:24

her hands was deep into your soil, into your

4:26

heart, into your soul, she's

4:28

not only digging into your

4:31

present, but she knows that when she's not gonna

4:33

be here, or in the future when you're in

4:35

LA, doing and dabbling, your

4:38

fruits will recognize. So when you're in those

4:40

rooms, you feel darker, and you feel the

4:42

difference, because your mom did her job, she

4:45

did a great job. I would love to

4:47

talk, before we get into your chapter now,

4:50

just for people that don't really know where

4:52

you're coming from, I wanna dive into

4:54

that. You were raised in Arizona, which

4:56

I was raised in Arizona. What

4:59

school did you go to? What part? Oh, it's

5:01

a bad neighborhood. Same. Maryville, Maryville

5:03

High School. Scottsdale. Oh yeah, so bad.

5:05

Oh yeah. It

5:07

was rough. I put it this way, I

5:09

didn't even know there was a Scottsdale.

5:12

Really? When I was living

5:14

in Phoenix, when I was younger. What about, what about- I

5:16

was like, wait, what, Scottsdale? What is that? Paradise

5:18

Vat, what? Like, and

5:20

then they were just building Avondale at the time,

5:23

so I'm like, oh, that's cool, you know? That

5:25

was the higher, nicer places

5:27

we can go visit, but even

5:29

then, I didn't even know this existed growing

5:31

up. So what was your childhood like? What

5:33

was it like from your home to before

5:36

you moved on? Because when I see, because,

5:38

dude, I'm so fascinated about your life, and

5:40

the reason I'm fascinated is because I see

5:42

a fighter, but you

5:44

thought your whole life, you're fighting for

5:47

the octagon, but I'm seeing what God's

5:49

doing with you, and it's way bigger

5:51

and way better, so I'm excited to

5:53

see who was the younger version of

5:56

you being filled into who you are

5:58

now. So I- what

28:00

we believe, see, and feel is what we've

28:02

been given from the world. And

28:05

so when we vibe on this, we're like, oh,

28:07

okay, yeah, I'm at where I'm at. And God's

28:09

cracking up, because he's like, woman. The

28:11

same little girl that had the backwards hat

28:14

and the baggy shirt and those pants on,

28:16

and she was wrestling, and I had your

28:18

back, but you trusted me to mold you.

28:20

Yeah. But now you're telling me,

28:22

oh, the job's done, so stop baking. And

28:25

I'm telling you right now, do not let the

28:27

devil own your tongue by telling God, stop

28:29

doing what you're doing. No, no, no. Every day

28:32

I wake up, I want you to crucify myself.

28:34

Every day, for me to be a good husband,

28:36

I have to reject my heart and reject my

28:39

thoughts. Because if I lean on them, then I'm

28:41

gonna hurt her as a husband. I'm gonna hurt

28:43

my children, I'm gonna hurt my friends. I could

28:45

easily just listen to what you just said and

28:47

be like, oh, cool, great interview. But

28:49

as I know, God spiked my heart and

28:51

was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You

28:54

always have to position yourself in front of your

28:56

father as your child. From

28:58

cover to cover, there was never a man that

29:00

was an adult in God's eyes. It was always

29:02

a child in God's eyes. Why? Because

29:05

you're always learning and adapting and growing in

29:08

this shape and form of Jesus

29:10

Christ. No, I feel like I needed to hear that

29:12

because that's what my prayers have been lately, where

29:15

it's like, oh my God, thank you. I've been in

29:17

a state of gratitude. And it's like, not that I don't,

29:21

because I never want to be comfortable. Me

29:23

as an athlete, I always want to put myself in situations

29:25

that are gonna help me grow and evolve.

29:27

And I felt this level of peace and calmness almost

29:29

my entire life. I'm like, okay, I want to hold on to this.

29:32

Now I'm holding on to it. Perfect. Hey,

29:34

can you turn the AC on real quick? That

29:37

is coming from God. Because think about it. You just

29:39

told me right now that you planned for your fights.

29:41

It got canceled. You had surgery. It happened last year.

29:43

You're literally sitting here being like, why are my plans

29:46

not going according to where I want them? But you

29:48

still have peace and joy. Yeah. How?

29:51

Yeah. Wouldn't that happen if you got your fight

29:53

and you got the bag and you got the win? But

29:55

God is trying to show you, you naturally

29:57

are going back to your, I need the

29:59

title. I need this I need this

30:01

because I work for this so this is where

30:04

my joy and peace is so to be

30:06

honest I this is gonna sound like a

30:08

little sharp, but I've realized in my life. He

30:10

only rewards me when I behave Like

30:12

a good father so he gives me the house

30:15

when I prove to him that I don't

30:17

need the house Yeah, because I'm not gonna

30:20

give him. Oh, I'm not gonna give my

30:22

son something that's going to hurt him I'm

30:24

not gonna give my son a car if

30:26

he's 14 But I would give

30:28

it to him when he's ready for it. Yes, and that's

30:30

where I feel That has

30:33

been going on with my career. Amen. It's like he know,

30:35

you know what it is. Oh Man,

30:37

I come it is the first time I ever

30:40

say this I was making my career my god

30:42

Yeah, I was me. Oh my god. I just want this. Oh my god.

30:44

Just do this for me, please Oh my god. Oh my god, and

30:47

they would never happen I mean, I

30:49

need to find a way to and I was and

30:51

instead of relying on him and trusting him and knowing

30:54

hey I don't need this. Yep, you know,

30:56

I don't need this and That's kind

30:58

of and I think a lot of fans hardcore

31:00

of my fans Might

31:03

get upset at me when I say this but I'm

31:05

in a place now where I was really fighting for the

31:07

title And there's nothing more that

31:10

would make me, you know, happy

31:12

than to get what I've worked extremely hard for

31:15

but I'm also fully aware of You

31:18

know what if that what I

31:20

want probably isn't what God wants for me and

31:23

I'm okay with that And if

31:25

it even breaks my heart a little bit, but if

31:27

that's not his Journey

31:29

for me and his goal for me, which it

31:31

hurts Like I

31:34

accept it, you know, I really do and

31:37

And I think that's when I accepted that

31:39

that's when he's I've felt this

31:41

piece and I feel this calmness And I'm still

31:44

working. I'm not not working But

31:47

like that's not my god anymore You

31:50

know You're about you're gonna

31:52

receive it and I'll explain why I don't know

31:54

what's in your heart for you to receive But

31:58

you remind me of the little girl holding

32:00

the bear. Do you know what

32:02

I'm talking about? Do you like that meme? I love that

32:04

meme. But I love that meme because it's so deep.

32:07

Our God is a good gift giver. I'm going to give

32:09

you a verse because I don't even like to speak for

32:11

my father with my own words. I'm going to use his

32:14

words and it's kind of funny the way he said it.

32:16

I'm going to modernize it. He's sitting around

32:18

and he goes, if your neighbor

32:20

came and asked you for bread and you're in bed and

32:22

your kids are asleep and you're going to be like, dude,

32:24

go away. My whole family's in

32:26

bed. Stop knocking on my door. But if the guy

32:29

keeps knocking, bro, please, I have guests coming over. I'm

32:31

going to be embarrassed. I need some bread. He's going

32:33

to be like, fine. Okay. And he goes and he

32:35

gets a bread and he gives him that gift. He

32:37

goes, but you are evil and you're not

32:39

a good person. And look what the gifts

32:41

you still give others. He goes, but

32:43

me, I'm perfect and I'm good and

32:45

I'm love. My gifts are

32:48

extremely bigger than your gifts.

32:50

So you're trying to gift yourself the title.

32:53

You're trying to gift yourself this. You're trying

32:55

to gift yourself this because in your mind,

32:57

this is the greatest gift, but

33:00

you don't know yourself as much as God

33:02

who knitted you in your mother's womb, knew

33:05

what you're going to want and need. There's

33:08

so many times that I, okay, God, I

33:10

want to do this. And then I'll fight against them. I'll

33:12

fight against them and we'll just sit in heaven. We're like,

33:14

bro, you're fighting against me. You're not going to win. And

33:17

then finally I submit, you know, it's the most

33:19

embarrassing part about submitting is when I

33:21

realized I should have done it years ago. How

33:24

many times have you submitted to God here? Like this whole

33:26

time I was in my own way. This

33:28

whole time I was in my own way. If I

33:30

would have continued what I thought was good for me,

33:32

I would have never met my wife. I

33:35

would have never been where I'm at right now. I

33:37

would have never podcast. I never thought podcasting was for

33:39

me, but

33:41

now you couldn't throw my

33:44

dreams that I had at my feet. I

33:46

kicked them away from me, but

33:48

God knew that I did it, but

33:50

he puts yourself in a position to

33:53

say, are you going to pick your desires or

33:55

my desires? And I'm going to tell you right

33:58

now, his desires are greater than yours. Yeah,

34:00

and the peace and joy that comes with it is

34:03

better no disrespect than the four minutes

34:05

of you holding a title Grabbing

34:08

a mic and saying Dana da da da da da

34:10

da da and then you walk away Then people are

34:12

like, okay, who's next about to beat the shit out

34:14

of somebody else? Yeah, and then you spent your whole

34:16

life reaching for one goal

34:19

when it should have just been a nice trinket

34:21

little thing on your heart that you're gonna about

34:23

to go accumulate more and more and more and

34:25

more because if you Fear

34:28

that then the rest of your life after

34:30

you rewarded yourself Then what

34:32

you're just gonna look backwards in life. Yeah So

34:35

you set yourself up for? The

34:37

craziest thing is we all look at Adam and Eve and be like,

34:39

how could they do that? When we

34:41

do that to God every single day

34:45

We just side to pick our own fruits

34:47

and eat them and die What

34:50

he's just saying dude, stop eating poison come

34:52

over here. You have no idea what I have and

34:55

plan for you I don't want people

34:57

to hear this and think oh she gave up and fighting,

35:00

you know Cuz that's not remotely close to what

35:02

I'm saying. What I'm saying is In

35:05

this moment right now in this season

35:08

I'm okay with not fighting, you know, I

35:11

have to go through what I'm going through with the surgery and all but

35:15

I've also accepted and I've surrendered

35:18

my wants and needs and now

35:21

it's If it's there, I'm

35:23

gonna work my ass off And

35:26

if it's not then there's something else that I need to focus

35:28

on and work on now you can

35:30

like truly fully Involve

35:33

yourself in what you love but then also have peace

35:35

And so there won't be so much pressure in the

35:37

thing that you love so much that sometimes when you're

35:39

so much pressure It kind of takes away the joy

35:41

from it Yeah and so now you get to fully

35:43

live in the moment have joy and the only sadness

35:46

that you feel is Because you're dying

35:48

to your old self a little bit when you like

35:50

start to realize that God's will is better than yours

35:53

and you shift your Purposes a little

35:55

bit. It's like sad cuz you're like, oh

35:57

like that girl was cool. Like I like that

36:00

Oh, I know. She was fun. I'm over here like,

36:02

I know. Do you know what I mean? I do.

36:04

You'll see her when you have it, when a

36:06

child comes in your way and you'll see, and you'll

36:08

love her still and you'll understand her or you'll

36:10

mentor that same girl and you'll love her and you'll

36:13

encourage her, but you would want to bring her

36:15

to be more like Christ. I

36:17

gotta tell you, I gotta ask you one question. If

36:20

you had two children and you gave them

36:22

a gift and one of

36:24

them is coming up to you and be like, mom,

36:26

thank you so much for this gift and gone and

36:28

just playing with it and doesn't care what's happening with

36:30

it, but enjoying it and it loves it. And then

36:32

one of them is shaking in fear. Like, mom, I

36:34

don't want to do this with it. And there's freaking

36:36

out and like, oh my God. And she see, I'm

36:38

crying in the shower because everything's not going my way.

36:40

You're like, dude, I'm going to take this gift back

36:42

from you. You're not

36:44

enjoying the gift. It's overwhelming you. And as

36:46

a good parent, you would take it away

36:49

from them. So what I'm saying

36:51

is don't fear it so much. It becomes

36:53

your idol where God is listening to

36:55

your mother's prayers and saying, no, no,

36:57

no. I promised your

36:59

mother before I promised you. So I will

37:01

continue her promise by making sure that there

37:03

is no idols in your way. And

37:06

then when you submit and say, God, you know

37:08

what? Thank you for even letting me fight. That

37:10

is when the heavens will come to you and

37:13

make you the best you've ever been. This

37:15

has got a lot deeper than we thought we were

37:17

gonna do. We started off with like, we're gonna take

37:19

the four-run off early. So they did like

37:21

a whole U-turn. Like, hold on, let's go back.

37:25

Did you find a church recently that you love? I

37:28

did, I did. I felt like it found me. You

37:31

found you? Yeah. Cause I

37:33

wasn't even looking to go to church. I was just, I

37:35

was going through it. And

37:38

my friend, a family

37:41

friend, they've known me since I was again, Jose

37:43

is my oldest brother. His best

37:45

friend, Angel is my wrestling coach. And

37:48

they've seen me grow up. Their

37:50

friends are my friends. So his

37:52

wife, she was like, oh my God, Tracy, she

37:55

was like, hey, we just started going to this church. You should come with us. And

37:58

at the time I was going back and forth in 42 now. in here and

38:00

I was like, you know what, I'll go. And

38:02

I go and I kid you not, they

38:04

were just speaking to me. And

38:07

everybody that was there with us, the entire family,

38:09

the sejuro family, they were just like, and

38:12

they all kind of looked at me. I was like, ew. I

38:14

was like, try, I was like, oh my god. It was just

38:16

like, we

38:18

walked out, I go, did you guys tell them I

38:20

was coming? They're like, no. Anyways,

38:22

long story short, I've been stuck. I love

38:25

it. I've been going to impact.

38:27

Impact. Oh, that's one of

38:29

the churches we wanted to check out. No way. So

38:33

it's given you a nice impact.

38:36

Yeah, it's an incredible impact. Beautiful.

38:38

And the craziest thing

38:40

is that PT, his

38:42

name's Travis. I call him PT, Pastor Travis.

38:46

He speaks my language. He

38:48

is from the same neighborhood,

38:51

literally, to the T, Maryville High School.

38:53

Does that encourage you more? No,

38:56

it was just, you know, at the time

38:58

growing up with my mom and going to

39:00

these churches and being judged because I was

39:02

such a tomboy. And they're like,

39:04

oh, she's a dyke, or she's this, or she's. They

39:08

just got the worst of me. And I'm just like, no. Like,

39:11

I just grew up with boys. I'm a tomboy, you know? And

39:14

I would always get judged

39:16

by, and I saw nasty

39:18

things at these churches. And my

39:20

mom would go, hey, I'm not here for the

39:22

people. I'm here to worship God and

39:24

hear the word of God. Amen. You know? No,

39:27

mom, but these people, they're da, da, da, da. My

39:30

gosh. She was like, you don't worry about other people. She

39:32

was like, I'm not there for them. And

39:35

I would get so mad because I'm like, I

39:38

thought she was worshiping the church. And

39:41

she wasn't. And I never understood it until

39:44

I got older. And with

39:46

my journey, it was like, I don't really care what people

39:48

are doing. I'm not involved with those people because now I

39:50

really believe you are who you hang out with. At

39:53

first, I was like, no, I can't hang out with these people and

39:56

not do what they're doing. Like, it's fine. We're all

39:58

sheep. As I

40:00

got older, I realized I can't hang out with certain people.

40:03

I can't get involved. It does

40:05

rub off. And now being

40:07

a woman, the woman that I was like, she was

40:09

100% right. She never involved

40:11

herself with certain people. And

40:13

she followed her journey. And she,

40:16

like, she just lived such a beautiful

40:18

life. Like I had admired to be like her

40:20

one day. And I

40:23

went to this church, Impact, and

40:25

they're just incredible people. They're incredible

40:27

people, man. I

40:31

don't know exactly what God is doing with me.

40:35

But I could see it every step of the way,

40:37

like, OK, now I see why this happened. Next,

40:39

I was like, oh my God, now I see why

40:41

this person was put in my journey or my path.

40:44

You know, it's beautiful when

40:47

I just have a different lens now. There's such

40:49

a good feeling. And not to circle back, but

40:52

this is exactly why I say don't freeze where

40:54

you're at. Yeah, I know. Don't

40:56

freeze where you're at. I'm glad that you're

40:58

going to a community. We were just talking

41:01

about this. Like, it's very important to bring

41:03

people that inspire you or push

41:05

you into a better direction to be around

41:07

you. And now because everybody

41:09

locks themselves up in a room, puts on

41:11

a phone, and they just absorb whatever the

41:14

Internet's giving them, that's that

41:16

could get very, very dangerous. Oh,

41:19

yeah. Like, even with

41:21

me, if it weren't for

41:23

my job, I'm so over

41:25

social media. I'm so over it.

41:28

I think it's a nasty thing. I think it

41:30

sets standards for these young people. But even for

41:32

me as a woman, I see certain things that

41:34

I'm just like, dang, like, what

41:36

am I doing wrong? You know, like, am

41:38

I behind? And it's, yeah.

41:43

But you know, whatever is made for bad, you could

41:45

turn to good. And like, yeah,

41:47

there is a lot of junk online. But

41:49

there's women like you that are speaking truth

41:52

and like being vulnerable and real. So

41:54

that young lady that has only brothers and she's

41:56

in her home and she's listening to you, she

41:58

finally doesn't feel alone. So

42:01

like there's there's there's always a

42:03

way to make the

42:06

devil's plans heavenly if that makes any sense. You

42:09

could be the light on Instagram or TikTok

42:11

or YouTube wherever. Can

42:13

we talk about the rose fight for a

42:16

second? Yeah okay so. Oh

42:18

man that one that one was the

42:20

most spiritual fight I've ever had. Really?

42:22

Break that down before you can ask

42:24

a question. So I was

42:26

literally in my car they asked me

42:28

to interview but I'm like man these interviews they won't

42:30

even get it but you know you guys you guys

42:32

speak it you know you guys they

42:35

I was in my car and everything

42:37

was going bad everything my

42:40

entire camp for a previous

42:44

fight before the rose fight and I'm

42:46

just like in the car and again

42:48

crying bawling my eyes out and I'm like once

42:52

again God if you

42:55

don't want me to fight anymore because things were

42:57

just not going great like they were not going

42:59

right. I go I will

43:01

be done fighting. I said

43:03

I'm done I I can't do

43:05

it anymore I feel like I'm fighting

43:08

you on something and I still don't know what it is

43:10

I said I'm done God and I surrendered it right and

43:13

I said I I just need you to tell me if

43:17

I need a clear answer because

43:20

he's to give up

43:22

something that you love so much that you've been doing for such

43:24

a long time right it's

43:27

hard it's so hard and I can't

43:29

just walk away from it like I need a

43:31

clear yes or no yeah and

43:33

I was in the car and

43:35

I was crying I'm just not like oh it's

43:37

like bawling it's not crying I'm crying and

43:40

the second I surrendered that and I was

43:42

like oh my god I

43:45

get a call from my manager he

43:47

said hey he said we want

43:52

you they want you to fight you know

43:54

they they want you to fight two

43:57

weeks versus Rose and

43:59

I was like Like, isn't she

44:02

fighting? I even forgot who she was fighting prior

44:04

to me. And they said, yeah, well, she's out. And

44:07

they want you to fight her. I

44:09

was like, me? Like, I haven't even fought

44:11

yet. I haven't even been that active.

44:13

Like, why would they want me? You

44:15

know? And it just

44:17

didn't make sense. But I said,

44:20

wait, main event? And they're like, yeah. And

44:23

I go, OK. OK, I'll fight.

44:26

Like, to me, that was my confirmation. Whoever she was fighting

44:28

is in a ditch somewhere. I'm like, how did I get

44:30

here? What happened? They woke up. They

44:32

were just like, wait, what? No. And I kid

44:35

you not, it was just like that. He answered

44:37

me like that. Like

44:39

that. And I was like, oh my. And

44:41

I got so excited. And I remember when

44:44

I'm doing any source of cardio, whether

44:46

it's a thermaster, treadmill, aerodynamic bike, whatever

44:48

it is, running outside, any

44:51

cardio I do, that is my time

44:53

with God. I leave my phone at home.

44:55

I have an Apple Watch, my headphones, and I just run. And

44:59

I'm just worshiping God. And I'm playing

45:01

worship. And I'm just like, that's my one-on-one with

45:03

him. And I'm doing cardio. And then

45:05

the stock came to my mind. And

45:08

I felt like he placed

45:11

that in my heart. He

45:13

almost asked me, win

45:16

or lose, will you still praise me? And

45:19

I remember I was running on the treadmill. And

45:23

I stopped. And I was like, oh my

45:25

God. And obviously, I'm trying not to cry. And

45:29

I touched my heart. And I go, God, win,

45:31

lose, or draw. I will still praise you. I

45:33

will not walk away from you. All

45:36

glory goes to you guys. And

45:38

I was like, wow. I was like, why would I get that? And

45:41

I'm running. And I'm running. And everything's going so

45:43

great after that. And

45:46

I'm in the mountains. And we're in

45:48

Colorado. And then I lose. And

45:51

it wasn't even a question of, God, why?

45:53

It was, God, thank you. I

45:57

was, thank you for answering

45:59

my prayer. and allowing me

46:01

to be here and speak, because

46:04

I did put publicly that I did

46:06

get closer to God. And some

46:08

of my people were like, you shouldn't do that, you shouldn't talk about

46:10

your religion online, and da da da. And

46:12

I was like, shut up. I

46:20

feel like there's a purpose behind it. You

46:22

know, there's a purpose behind me losing. I really

46:24

do feel there was a reason of it. I

46:26

feel like I was placed on that platform, and

46:30

I'm still trying to figure out why. And

46:32

I'm not digging into it, because I do feel like

46:34

it'll just naturally come to me. But as of right

46:36

now, he

46:39

answered my prayer, and I did

46:42

give him glory, win or lose. And looking

46:44

back now, now that I'm thinking about it, I

46:47

think, excuse me, I think I

46:51

had lost because again, I was putting my

46:54

career as my God. Looking

46:58

back. And

47:00

I think that's humbling, that I

47:02

won or something, and

47:05

he gave it to me, but he didn't fully give

47:07

me what I wanted, because I don't think that's what

47:09

I needed at the time. Can

47:12

I say something? Again, like, yo bro,

47:15

because it's so weird, because like, I just like, at

47:17

my tongue, and I'm like, dude, just stay back in

47:19

interview mode. Don't go into preach mode. But there's this

47:21

thing that I wanted to say that I dealt with

47:23

my whole life, and it was this. The

47:26

Bible verse where Peter is with Jesus

47:28

on the water, he only sunk

47:31

underneath when he took his eyes off of

47:33

Jesus. He

47:35

listened to the bad thoughts, and

47:38

he sunk underneath. He saw what the

47:40

problem was, and he

47:42

focused his eyes not on Christ, but

47:44

what the problem was, and

47:46

he fell in. You're so high up now that

47:48

you're in a spiritual realm, because there is eyes

47:50

on you. So what the devil's gonna

47:53

do is ruin your peace and ruin your joy, and

47:56

he's gonna attack you in the one place that you never

47:58

thought you needed to sharpen. Who's

48:00

Jesus and what is his thoughts

48:03

on this? Should I have fear here or

48:05

should I not have fear here? I

48:07

think that the sharper you know God's

48:10

words, when those thoughts enter

48:12

your head, you could use scripture to

48:14

bounce them because you don't

48:16

have to take responsibility what's in here.

48:19

You have to take responsibility of what's here.

48:22

Whenever you fear, you're worshiping Satan.

48:25

Whenever you have faith, you're worshiping

48:27

Jesus. So in a peak where

48:29

he's gonna notice you're gonna demonstrate

48:31

God, he's gonna sneak

48:33

in his thoughts and your

48:35

thoughts have to be on Christ.

48:37

That's why he says don't lean on your own understanding.

48:40

So the whole time when you should have been training,

48:42

you're like, well, no, I'm gonna praise God if I

48:44

lose, if I lose, if I lose, if I lose.

48:46

And he's letting you speak this. And

48:49

so your Father's in heaven to be like, yeah, but

48:51

remember you could win if you

48:53

trust in me. And I think

48:55

you have a lot of coaches when it comes to your

48:57

physical realm. And I think at

48:59

impact, you finally got your coach for your

49:02

spiritual realm. You are

49:04

training and also the devil got you

49:06

curious and thinking the bad thoughts while

49:08

you're training. But if you

49:11

trusted in Jesus and his thoughts, you're gonna

49:13

be meditating on his words and you're gonna

49:15

push yourself even more. Frequency

49:17

is everything. In the beginning was

49:19

the word. And when

49:21

he spoke, he created things. So if

49:23

you're made in the image of God,

49:25

whatever you speak, you'll create. My

49:28

God. Wow.

49:31

Do you get what I'm saying? I do. I did that to

49:33

myself a lot. And I thought

49:35

I confused myself as a good disciple of God.

49:38

I was like, well, no, because I'm proving to

49:40

God that if this happened and this happened, then

49:42

I will blah, blah, blah. But it's like, bro,

49:44

that shouldn't even be a question. That should never

49:47

be a question if I lose

49:49

or if I win, if I'm gonna

49:51

worship God. The fact that that's even

49:53

a question. Yeah. It

49:55

shows where your foundation with the Lord is. He's

49:59

like, what? I'm even compared to

50:01

your fighting. I'm supposed to be above your

50:03

fighting. Why is it even a question? That

50:05

didn't come from God. God's not like, hey,

50:07

would you love me if you lost? Why

50:10

would he do that? I'm doing this for you, Lord.

50:12

If I lose, I will still praise you. God's in

50:14

heaven be like, what battle have I lost that you

50:17

need to go and preach? I

50:19

only win. I win. Now,

50:21

if it's written for your will to lose, but that

50:23

should even be in your realm. You should wake up

50:26

every day praising the Lord that you even have the

50:28

body to fight, the ability to fight.

50:30

So what you did is you were that child that

50:32

came up to God or you're like, yeah, I was

50:34

the mom and you were fearing it. So what is

50:36

he gonna do? He's gonna remove it. And

50:40

the day you stopped worshiping this, that's when he

50:42

comes in with a bigger bear and

50:44

says, this is what you wanted, wasn't it? And you were like,

50:48

I didn't even think I was worthy for this. And

50:50

he goes, you were it, but you submitted yourself and

50:52

I made you worthy for it. Do

50:55

you see what you're saying? And I mean,

50:57

I have to

50:59

say if you didn't lose this fight, there was

51:01

a pretty viral moment that happened. I know it's

51:03

been talked about a bit here

51:05

and there. Can we talk about the eyelash? Oh

51:07

my God, yeah, girl, I ain't tripping. We can talk about

51:10

it. So I

51:12

actually flew my girl out so she could do my

51:14

lashes out in Denver. And

51:16

she gave me a little fill and they

51:19

were like fresh and they're individual. They're not stripped.

51:21

Everyone thought they were, you're a girl, you wouldn't

51:23

understand. You get them like put in.

51:26

Does that hurt? No, no, no. What

51:28

do you mean put in? What are they putting

51:30

in? Like they're glued onto my lashes. But like

51:33

glued on like super glue. Okay,

51:35

just so you know. Like they're on my

51:37

lash, like I can rub my eyes and they won't come off

51:39

right now. So I'm

51:42

so happy you brought this up. I'm

51:45

so happy you brought this up. So the

51:50

precision that this girl had to have so

51:52

it could all come off

51:55

as one. It was

51:57

so crazy. Yeah, like it wasn't one or two. It

52:00

was all of them. That's crazy. Like an

52:02

entire gone. I'm sorry, I

52:04

didn't see what you guys are talking about.

52:06

How did this happen? Was it

52:08

a kick or a punch? So I think, I

52:11

can't remember exactly, but I leaned

52:13

in for a punch and she beat me

52:15

to it and as she beat me, I

52:17

think it's this eye. And

52:20

she like, her fist literally, and

52:22

the glove obviously punches

52:25

my eye and lifts, right? And

52:28

the entire lash comes off. Like my entire

52:30

lashes come off. Did you feel it? I was

52:32

gonna say, I didn't feel it. I

52:34

don't feel nothing until probably the next day.

52:37

Oh okay. Just sitting at home. Because

52:39

of the adrenaline. No, but seriously. I

52:43

was like, I have one, if one

52:45

of my eyelashes, you know sometimes when your eyelashes are

52:47

about to fall out and then it's like hanging so

52:49

you have to pull it, that hurts bad. I saw

52:51

that. My stomach dropped.

52:54

No girl, it was, that was a theme.

52:58

It still is. I know. When

53:01

I posed with lashes on, they were like, oh she found her lash.

53:03

I'm like. What does

53:05

it feel like walking around knowing

53:08

you could dismantle somebody at any

53:10

moment? I don't

53:13

know. I never thought about it. I

53:16

know I'm okay. Really? I could run in

53:18

the dark. Oh really? Just

53:20

alone. Like this black on black and

53:22

up like, I dare someone. I dare

53:25

someone. Unless they have a gun. Well.

53:28

They're like, I don't dare you. Yeah, then no.

53:30

But I think, yeah. Have

53:33

you ever been in any street fights? Yeah.

53:35

Really? Do you have any

53:38

stories? No, before you even ask that, what's the

53:40

feeling, what's the difference? What's the

53:42

feeling difference between you and an octagon versus somebody

53:44

in the street? Well I'm not

53:46

a street fighter, nor do

53:48

I like confrontation. By

53:51

the way, she's only saying this because her attorney's right there saying. No.

53:54

I literally, I don't like

53:56

arguing and I know what

53:58

I'm capable of. So when these girls

54:01

have tested me, and

54:03

I have friends, they'll be like, dude, she's not

54:05

lying, don't fuck with her,

54:07

right? And I'll be like, please,

54:09

because they'll try to push me, I'll be like, please

54:11

don't touch me. I

54:14

will knock you out so fast, please do not touch me. Oh

54:17

yeah, bitch. And they're getting feisty with me, I'm

54:19

like, oh my gosh, you don't know. And

54:22

sure enough, afterwards, I'm like, I'm

54:24

sorry and hurt you. And

54:27

then she turns to their boyfriends, and you,

54:29

I'm sorry that your girl got you involved.

54:32

And then I'm like, you gotta go, and I'm like,

54:34

oh. Because it's bad,

54:36

I can go to jail. Of course.

54:39

I would be a criminal. You don't, and

54:41

no disrespect to you, but you don't come

54:43

off to me like the usual girl fighters

54:45

that are like, have the, what

54:48

are they, call the callers? Call the callers, yeah,

54:50

I know. Yeah, so you're not throwing off any

54:52

vibes that you're like, I'm gonna kill you. But

54:55

I just didn't know if they would know that

54:57

you're a UFC fighter. You know what, no. You

55:02

know what though, it's because girls don't watch fights. Girls don't watch

55:04

a lot of fights. A lot of it is like guys. The

55:07

girls just happen to watch it. Oh,

55:09

so they really just like getting, blowed

55:12

out, had no idea that you were about to do

55:14

this. Have you ever beat up a dude? No,

55:17

no, thank God. That would have been

55:19

so funny. Oh man. You

55:21

know what, I think I don't

55:24

like fighting outside of my career

55:26

because growing up, my brothers

55:30

would make me fight other

55:32

kids, boy or girl. And

55:35

they said, if you lose, we're

55:37

gonna beat your ass too. So

55:39

I would fight until I won. Like there

55:41

was no losing, right? And then we'll come

55:43

home and they'll be like, oh, Tracy beat

55:45

up a boy. And I was like,

55:47

I'm gonna blow your bloody nose, cry. Oh,

55:50

I'm sure your parents love that. All

55:52

my parents were like, what are you guys doing to her? Like what? Yeah,

55:55

it was. She just wanted to

55:57

make friends this whole time. I just wanted to make genuine

55:59

friends. But I have to say you running a night is

56:01

a big plus because you know what I've had to do

56:03

one time One time George was like I really want to

56:05

go to the gym I like I didn't get to go

56:07

work out Please I'd let me just go talk, you know

56:10

But this is in LA and like the we were going

56:12

to LA Fitness at the time and it's not a great

56:14

LA Fitness like The one specifically we were going out, you

56:16

know, not safe at night And so I

56:18

said, please please please I really want to go get my

56:20

work out and he said, okay fine I'll

56:22

take you to the park And

56:25

so I jogged around No So

56:27

I was like, okay, I was like, please I was like, yeah

56:29

stay in the middle He was with his cousin They threw around

56:31

a football in the middle of the park and they ran the

56:34

track around because what am I gonna do in the dark? If

56:36

something happens, I'm gone, you know, I'm

56:39

gone What am I gonna do? But

56:42

you have something great in your back pocket, you

56:44

know, honestly me and her together will accumulate you

56:46

just us together We'll just grab both. No, do

56:48

you think right now if you had to get

56:50

out if me and her had to protect ourselves

56:52

Hug her Do

56:55

you think you could beat Bradley

56:57

Martin in a jujitsu match Remember

57:01

he's too. No. Yeah. No, he's a big

57:03

guy. Um No

57:08

Doesn't he know a little bit nothing? He knows nothing. Nothing.

57:10

I mean there's a chance I'll give it a 50 50%

57:12

chance Hmm. I do feel like

57:15

he's really strong. He might I'm actually talking to him about going

57:17

going out there, too He wants to be on his podcast, but

57:19

he might hear this Question

57:26

That's so funny if you guys ever do just wrestle for

57:28

fun, can I watch I'd love to What's

57:33

been your favorite fight up to date

57:35

my favorite the roles fight Yeah, the

57:38

most frustrating but in the moment because

57:40

obviously I wasn't prepared and it was a two-week notice But

57:43

I I embraced every moment of

57:45

it. I was such in the moment I was there

57:47

was I was getting ready

57:49

for it and I was doing in the media

57:51

And I was actually enjoying it for the first

57:53

time. Yeah, and you're right if

57:56

I weren't So I

57:58

was still pretty like what? You're

58:00

seeing it now, right? Yes When

58:03

somebody opens up my eyes the whole time like oh,

58:06

come on dude, why couldn't I've seen that before? I

58:09

never thought and if you weren't have told me that

58:11

like I was probably still said something like that But

58:13

you're right. It's like what why am I even comparing?

58:16

Like how would that even cross my mind? Yeah,

58:19

like why how did that even get there? That's

58:21

why brothers and sisters need each other He says

58:23

two or more are gathered in my name. I'm

58:25

present a lot of people are like well only

58:27

Jesus is around when multiple people Are praying that's

58:29

not true. He's with you every time you pray

58:31

Yeah, but the reason says I am with you

58:33

is because we can hold you accountable for the

58:35

word because you're like Oh, I'm really gun-ho about

58:37

this but it's like yo, I love you as

58:39

a sister So I'm gonna be like hey don't

58:41

do that That's not a good I could see

58:43

that the devil wrapped his thoughts in your heart

58:45

and he made you feel like he's God but

58:48

that only way we could defeat him is by

58:50

knowing our father's words and And all of us

58:52

try to ski by by like knowing his feelings

58:54

and how he would be It's just a bad

58:56

view of things and you know what though it's

58:59

crazy You bring that up to though because I've

59:01

been having Ish a battle

59:03

with reading my Bible. Yeah, of course

59:05

you would But

59:08

I'm so good like I love worshiping every

59:10

morning and like I love worshiping and I

59:13

go to church when I'm obviously in town and

59:15

but I'm like, okay tonight I'm worried my Bible

59:17

got and I oh and the next day. I'm

59:19

like God. I felt you. I'm so sorry And

59:23

I have the hardest time and I'm getting in

59:25

a place Where everyone's like,

59:27

oh you're so you're so Christian and

59:29

God like you know, no I

59:32

said I'm learning I'm like, you know, I'm

59:34

learning I'm educating myself I don't know everything

59:37

nor do I claim that I know what's

59:39

right versus what's wrong but I mean a lot you know,

59:41

some of it's common sense and I've

59:45

been having this This

59:49

This battle and Recently I

59:51

was in my living room and else I Stuffed

59:54

I was just worshiping him alone. I was like I haven't

59:56

had one-on-one time with you You know, cuz I haven't been

59:58

able to run cuz I'm about to have surgery And

1:00:01

it bothers me to run, to do any

1:00:03

cardio. And I'm just in my

1:00:05

living room and I'm crying. And a

1:00:09

dog comes to me and it's like, get your Bible. And

1:00:12

I'm like, I was like, oh. I

1:00:14

was like, I'm not even gonna like, okay, I did.

1:00:16

And I was like, do I

1:00:19

really have to? Do I really have

1:00:21

to? And I'm like, oh. Another

1:00:25

worship song comes on and I get that thought again, I was,

1:00:27

get your Bible. Okay, this is the second

1:00:30

time. Let me get my Bible. First something

1:00:32

happens. Because I do fear him. I

1:00:35

do notice when I am, when

1:00:38

I'm not obedient to certain things that I

1:00:40

do catch on, how

1:00:42

things do go bad. Not necessarily

1:00:44

bad, but it's

1:00:47

almost like, I don't wanna say

1:00:49

a step back, but like, complacent.

1:00:53

Not that I'm complacent. It moves a little bit of peace.

1:00:55

Yes. I feel that too. Sometimes you

1:00:57

have those days where you're so You

1:01:00

feel so much peace. And then you get comfortable in

1:01:02

the goodness that you start to kind of like separate

1:01:05

yourself a little bit. Yes. and

1:01:07

cause you're like without his spirit and then you

1:01:09

go back. Thank you. So I'm not good with

1:01:12

my word. So exactly that where I'm just like,

1:01:14

God, like I haven't felt so close. You know, and I was

1:01:16

like, no, I like being with you. I like being in your

1:01:19

presence. So I opened the Bible and it

1:01:21

was something, I can say

1:01:23

it. Ephesians. Yes. That

1:01:25

first scripture. And I read

1:01:29

it and I was like, okay,

1:01:31

you're asking me to come closer to you. And

1:01:34

I'm failing you. Right? Cause

1:01:36

it says, it says something somewhere along the lines of how

1:01:39

his, the ancestors failed. Yeah.

1:01:42

Right. All of them. It

1:01:45

says, don't you see how your ancestors had failed me?

1:01:47

And it, and I was just like, oh my God, okay. I

1:01:51

need to get close. I need to read my Bible. And I

1:01:54

keep getting these little messages where it's like right

1:01:56

now, like educate yourself. Don't

1:01:59

lean on what you're feeling. and you lean on your thoughts,

1:02:01

go by the scripture, and it's like, ah man. And

1:02:04

I know that's what I lack. Why do you

1:02:06

think you're gonna be going to heaven? I

1:02:11

don't, I don't know. Do you know if you're gonna

1:02:13

go to heaven? I

1:02:16

pray that I do. I

1:02:18

pray that I do, but. This is

1:02:20

cool. So, there's

1:02:22

a Bible verse that scares a lot of people. It

1:02:24

scared the shit out of me for a long time.

1:02:27

I cried so many times about it. He says, in

1:02:29

the day where judgment, there's gonna be people that come

1:02:31

up to him that like fasted, that

1:02:33

did all these things, charitable, all these things. And

1:02:35

he says, be away from me, I never knew

1:02:37

you. But they're like, we did this in your

1:02:39

name. And he says, get away from

1:02:41

me. The context

1:02:43

of this is, the

1:02:46

reason why me and you are gonna go

1:02:48

to heaven is because Jesus paid our penalty

1:02:50

on the cross. The devil

1:02:53

will make you think that you have to work for

1:02:55

your way to heaven. You can't. If

1:02:57

me, you, and her worked every day for the rest

1:02:59

of our life, we still can't pay off that debt.

1:03:02

He did. So, how we

1:03:04

get there is through grace, faith.

1:03:07

We have faith that he's given us grace

1:03:09

and that he's completed it on the cross.

1:03:12

So, the question if we're going to heaven should

1:03:14

never even be a part of us anymore.

1:03:16

We are gonna go to heaven. And then through

1:03:19

this, he will change us. So, the gospel

1:03:21

actually says, your works are meaningless. When

1:03:23

you submit to me, I work through you.

1:03:26

And that's the works that you should be proud

1:03:28

of and have peace and joy. So, just

1:03:30

like with wrestling, just like with your faith, you're

1:03:33

sitting in front of God working, working,

1:03:35

working, working. And God's saying, dude,

1:03:38

you should be resting, resting,

1:03:40

resting, resting. You should give it

1:03:42

to me. And then through

1:03:44

you, I will produce work. But

1:03:47

you know what? There's even sometimes where, and

1:03:51

it's crazy I even brought that up because I don't

1:03:53

know how to pray. I don't even pray

1:03:55

out loud. Right? I'm

1:03:57

in my head. And my praying is just regular

1:04:00

conversation. conversation with God. Like, hey man, you

1:04:04

know, and I start, like, to me,

1:04:06

it's a normal conversation with God. But

1:04:09

for me to pray out loud, it's like, like,

1:04:13

I get stuck. Like, and

1:04:18

I kind of, I don't want to say I give up, but I

1:04:20

kind of like, and I just start talking to him in my

1:04:22

head. You know? Have

1:04:26

you ever read the Sermon on the Mount? No.

1:04:29

Do you, do you know why next year you're gonna

1:04:31

blossom, dude? I'll tell you what's gonna happen to you.

1:04:34

You have different seasons, like I told you. The

1:04:36

season that you're in right now is you're battling

1:04:38

with faith. The first chapter of

1:04:40

a religious man or a man who's after God's

1:04:42

heart is truly, do I believe

1:04:45

in a God? And then once

1:04:47

you submit and you fully believe through your

1:04:49

actions, which you have, you've said, no, there

1:04:51

is a God, I am chasing him. The

1:04:53

next season is being obedient. So I understand

1:04:55

who Jesus is. That's the conflict

1:04:57

that I have, right? So like, is God

1:04:59

real? Is he not real? Your mother pushed

1:05:01

you into that chapter. No, God's real. Don't

1:05:03

lose sight of him. The next

1:05:05

chapter is reading his words, understanding

1:05:07

him. If me and you had a

1:05:10

conversation and I'm the only one talking,

1:05:13

you would never be able to get anything across to me.

1:05:16

So when we just talk to God all

1:05:18

the time, asking him for answers, asking

1:05:20

him for deliverance, asking him for peace, and

1:05:22

he's about to tell you something, and then

1:05:25

you close the Bible. So

1:05:27

you're shutting his mouth and

1:05:29

then you're sitting with your own thoughts and your own heart. And

1:05:31

you're like, this is how he would want me to behave. I'm

1:05:34

good right now. So please look, don't let me change.

1:05:36

And God's like, woman, like, you're

1:05:38

still praying to see if the UFC is

1:05:40

at the same equivalent as me. What do

1:05:42

you mean? Don't change. You

1:05:44

need to grow. Right now

1:05:46

you have like this little flower that got

1:05:48

planted and now it's right here and you're

1:05:51

like, Oh, we have life. Let's freeze everybody.

1:05:53

And God's life. There's

1:05:55

no fruit on that leaf.

1:05:57

Your next fruitful stage will.

1:06:00

only begin when you

1:06:02

turn your mouth off, turn your

1:06:04

thoughts off, and read his words and thoughts.

1:06:07

Once you stop leaning on your understanding and

1:06:09

his, dude, you think you're

1:06:11

in a fruitful place now? Oh

1:06:14

bro, you are broke in the kingdom of God

1:06:16

right now. And you're about to come into some

1:06:18

crazy riches, dude. You just enter the gate and

1:06:20

you're like, oh good, I'll stay here. Guys, you

1:06:23

haven't even seen the home that I made for

1:06:25

you and the bed that I have for you.

1:06:28

You have so much to look forward to,

1:06:30

but it only begins when we

1:06:33

stop. That's

1:06:35

when it begins. I feel like

1:06:37

I'm being guided right now. I

1:06:40

really do. Well, I appreciate you

1:06:43

coming and even having this conversation. It

1:06:46

inspires me seeing this. And it's cool that I

1:06:48

always just think about, when I'm talking

1:06:50

to you, I always think about, where was I when I was a kid

1:06:52

and you were a kid? I always think that. What

1:06:54

was I doing? I was running around in my dad's

1:06:56

liquor store while you were wearing a backwards hat and

1:06:59

a baggy shirt. Do we bump into each other at

1:07:01

any point? Like, I always think about that. Thank

1:07:04

you for being so vulnerable and being able to share

1:07:06

your background, share your story, and then being able to

1:07:08

like, even share right now what's on your heart and

1:07:11

how what you're going through with fighting, it's

1:07:14

a hard thing to do. Thank you. That's why

1:07:16

the first step is confessing. Yeah, thank you for

1:07:18

having me. Thank you for coming.

1:07:20

You guys are just incredible people. Thank you so

1:07:22

much. If you could leave one piece

1:07:24

of advice for kids that are aspiring to

1:07:27

become fighters as an athlete, what

1:07:29

would you say makes a good fighter? Oh,

1:07:32

man, I wouldn't say just an athlete. I

1:07:34

would say anything if they want to be

1:07:36

a doctor, a teacher, a chef, a

1:07:38

nurse, anything. Just, you

1:07:41

know, I think don't

1:07:43

let, because I had a

1:07:45

lot of doubters, don't let doubters stop you.

1:07:48

That's it. Don't let doubters stop

1:07:50

you. Their limit isn't yours. Amen.

1:07:53

So that's really good. Thank

1:07:55

you. No, of course, thank you. You

1:07:57

speak so soft and sweet. I almost want to like, ah. I

1:08:01

love it. I don't know. It's like comforting. Your

1:08:03

voice is comforting. She's the best. Thank you

1:08:05

so much. She confers me so much. And

1:08:08

she's so like perfect with it. I

1:08:10

always make jokes where I said, I knew

1:08:12

God, but she acted like a child of God. And

1:08:15

that's crazy difference. Like I told her, she always

1:08:18

tells on the podcast, she goes, George made me a better

1:08:20

Christian. I was like, you made me a better Christian. Like

1:08:22

when I met you and I'm like, you don't even know

1:08:24

you should behave this way and you're behaving this way. I

1:08:26

was like, oh dude, I'm going to hell. Like there's no

1:08:28

way I'm going to help. Oh

1:08:30

my God, please. Dude, thank you so much for

1:08:32

to come here and like to be so

1:08:34

vulnerable and talk. Like it really is inspiring.

1:08:38

I am sorry you're not fighting your

1:08:40

next fight. I am very excited

1:08:42

to see what God has in store for you

1:08:45

next. I'm so excited. I cannot

1:08:47

wait because like, this is what I like.

1:08:49

I have such faith in my God that

1:08:51

I get excited about moments like this. Cause I was

1:08:54

like, well, let's go. Let's go. And

1:08:56

you know what? And that's why I'm not stressing either. Cause I'm like,

1:08:58

you know what God, even though

1:09:00

I wanted this, every time I've been redirected somewhere, it's

1:09:02

just led me to something so much more greater every

1:09:05

single time, time after time. Whether

1:09:07

I messed up, cause I'm realizing now

1:09:09

I messed up on that. Cause I did

1:09:11

plant that in my head. Well, whether if I win

1:09:13

or lose, you know what I mean? Now it's like, God,

1:09:17

you just put things in just different perspective

1:09:19

for me. Amen. And thank you

1:09:21

for that. My question now. Where do

1:09:23

you guys think I should start in

1:09:26

the Bible? Because

1:09:29

for me, I see that and it's so, there's

1:09:32

so much. Yeah. And it's hard to understand. And

1:09:34

I'm like, where do I even start? Cause it's

1:09:37

not like a regular book, you know? Yeah. Yeah.

1:09:39

Yeah. You know, it's like different

1:09:41

stories and differences. It's just like, Oh my God,

1:09:43

like. That's a hard question. I

1:09:46

can't even answer that question because sometimes I don't even know

1:09:48

where to go, but I know somebody that we really look

1:09:50

up to, Johnny Chang, I just heard him say this two

1:09:52

days ago. Somebody asked him, where do you start? And he

1:09:54

said, from the beginning. And he just

1:09:56

left it as simple as that. And I think that,

1:09:58

you know, it seems like. pretty obvious, but sometimes

1:10:01

you think some people like to start in certain

1:10:03

other chapters. But when he said that, I was

1:10:05

like, yeah, that doesn't make sense, because there's so

1:10:07

many things that happened in the beginning in the

1:10:10

Old Testament that then when you read the New

1:10:12

Testament, you have understanding as to why he's implementing

1:10:14

this or why Jesus came and fulfilled this, because

1:10:17

you know what happened in the Old Testament.

1:10:19

What do you think? My answer is go

1:10:23

to God and ask him where you should start. The

1:10:27

reason why is because with your coach, every

1:10:29

fighter has a different beginning. I

1:10:33

can't tell you where your heart is, where it's

1:10:35

positioned. Mine when I started and it really clicked

1:10:37

with me was Proverbs. I opened up the Bible, I

1:10:40

was crying, I read Proverbs, it changed my life and

1:10:42

I continued from there. Should I have

1:10:44

started from the beginning? Yes. But

1:10:46

I think that if you just grab your gospel

1:10:48

and you ask the Holy Spirit to guide you,

1:10:50

it'd be better information than what we could give

1:10:52

you. Because we're giving it to

1:10:54

you from our perspective and it's garbage. Our

1:10:57

perspective is meaningless. It is your

1:10:59

heavenly Father's perspective that you want to chase. I

1:11:01

love meaningful conversations like this where I feel like I'm

1:11:03

learning so much and I feel like I'm being guided

1:11:06

to something more to

1:11:08

God. You know what I mean? It's

1:11:13

like I'm walking towards him, but it's

1:11:17

only at a certain pace and I want to be running

1:11:19

towards him. I want to be

1:11:21

running towards him and I want to feel him and I

1:11:23

don't want to lean on my thoughts and I don't want to lean on

1:11:25

my feelings or my emotions and I don't want to sit here confused and

1:11:27

I don't want to say, well, is

1:11:30

this for me or is this not? I

1:11:32

don't want to question him. That's such a big

1:11:34

eye opener. The fact

1:11:36

that I was even comparing my God to

1:11:40

winning a fight. It's

1:11:43

so... It's crazy when you're going

1:11:45

to be in your older days,

1:11:48

winning or losing, you're going to look back and be like, dude,

1:11:50

I was a badass, bro. I was fighting. I was having so

1:11:52

much fun. My mom taught me

1:11:54

this at a young age. She goes, don't let the devil

1:11:57

steal your joy because he

1:11:59

can't take away what he's doing. what God gave you, but he

1:12:01

could take your eyes off of what God gave you.

1:12:04

So God gave you the ability to even

1:12:06

have a headlining fight. The fact that you

1:12:08

were like, God, you should

1:12:10

even be praising the fact that you're positioned,

1:12:13

even though your parents didn't even want you to be there,

1:12:15

even though your obstacles are in front of you. That's

1:12:17

what I'm saying. There's always a wand versus

1:12:19

a gratitude. And when you are

1:12:21

wanting, you're full of anxiety and depression, but when

1:12:23

you're grateful, imagine you just hopped in and you're

1:12:26

like, yo, I'm so excited to even be in

1:12:28

this match. You beat her brakes off because you're

1:12:30

not even worried about anything. But the whole time

1:12:32

you're like in every time you sat down in

1:12:34

that ring, you were probably like, well, I'm still

1:12:36

going to praise God when I lose. If I

1:12:38

lose, it's like, dude, why is your mind even

1:12:40

there? It's the same reason why

1:12:42

Peter's mind went there. Stop

1:12:44

telling God how big your problems are. Start

1:12:47

telling your problems, how big your God is. Change

1:12:51

the perspective of how you see things.

1:12:53

Yeah. Thank you. You're welcome. Thanks for

1:12:55

being here, dude. No, thank you for

1:12:57

having me. Oh my God. I

1:12:59

feel like I'm reaching out a lot more black. Hey, what do

1:13:01

you think about this? You should. And

1:13:03

by the way, I think Cliff regretted give me his

1:13:05

number because every day I call him, every single day

1:13:08

I call him. We're all in this together. Like there's

1:13:10

going to be a day where all of us bow

1:13:12

in the presence of Jesus and we're going to look

1:13:14

at each other like, remember, we're talking about this. And

1:13:16

then past your shoulder, you're going

1:13:18

to see little girls that emulate you that listen to you to

1:13:20

follow Jesus. See,

1:13:23

like right now I'm in a place where I'm just

1:13:25

so grateful because I didn't reach out for me. You

1:13:29

know what I mean? And only God knows why I

1:13:31

needed to hear that. Why I needed to hear you.

1:13:34

Why I was placed right here right now. So

1:13:37

thank you for even responding because I never

1:13:39

even thought you would even respond. Thank you

1:13:41

for this conversation, man. This is,

1:13:43

you know, I'm very excited about this episode,

1:13:45

but I'm also excited about our friendship. And

1:13:48

I think that's the best part about this podcast is that

1:13:50

like, and I've also noticed,

1:13:52

I've noticed just some incredible people getting put

1:13:54

in my life. And again,

1:13:56

my own thoughts like, God, why? You

1:14:00

know, and I'm just so grateful. I'm kind of just

1:14:02

in like the state of gratitude. Man,

1:14:07

you just, you spoke to me in my heart. And I just,

1:14:10

thank you. I appreciate it. Thank you

1:14:12

so much. Truly, truly I tell you the best

1:14:14

decision I ever made in my life is thirsting

1:14:17

for what Jesus is saying. And

1:14:20

I think you should be very careful, even listening to

1:14:22

me. And I say that to the viewers too. Don't

1:14:24

take my words and run. If

1:14:27

you're gonna take anything I say and run

1:14:29

is seek first the kingdom. Chase

1:14:32

his thoughts and his mind and his

1:14:34

love, and you will

1:14:36

feel like you're in heaven already.

1:14:39

Well, thank you guys so much for watching. We went by

1:14:42

really quick. I really loved it. Thank you so much for

1:14:44

coming here. Thank you guys for having us. Thank you guys

1:14:46

for listening. And again, I will see you guys next Thursday.

1:14:50

Bye-bye.