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Well, as we approach the 2024

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election, I'm devoting a series

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of episodes to the Glenn Beck program podcast.

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Their conversations with presidential

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candidates. My job, so

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you know, is not to help or hurt any

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candidate. There is no agenda except

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to ask fair questions that are

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important to the American people.

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We need candidates to be crystal

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clear about who they are and

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what they stand for.

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I've been watching the debates. I get very

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little out of that. These episodes

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will provide essential conversations.

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You definitely will not hear on

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a debate stage.

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Now, today's guest is committed, and

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he's committed an unforgivable sin

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to the far left, at least.

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He's a committed American, even though

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he's black and he's a Republican.

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He is the Senate's only black

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Republican.

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He's been called vile,

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unrepeatable things. And of course,

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all of these names come from liberals.

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Turns out the same people who spend their time ranting

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about systemic racism and the evils

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of whiteness also happen to be incredibly

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racist themselves.

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He has a.

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An inspirational and incredible

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spirit of optimism. He says

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that it's his grandfather who picked cotton

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and never learned how to read. Got

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to see his family go from cotton to Congress.

1:26

His grandfather used to tell him, you can

1:28

be bitter or you can be better, but

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you can't be both. He's a

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huge advocate for people to, quote, be

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able to agree without disagree and

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without being disagreeable.

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Today, we're

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going to sit down and listen to the senator

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from South Carolina, Tim

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Senator,

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good to see

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you. Glenn, thanks

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for having me. You

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bet. Yeah, you look sharp.

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Thank you. So do you. I'm not wearing a red

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power tie. Well, you know. Can

3:24

I ask you just a frank question?

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I've been watching the debates. Yes.

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What the hell was that last debate? Yes.

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It was... I mean, did you get anything

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out of it? Well, I think I got a little

3:42

more out of the second one than I got out of the first one. The first

3:45

one was an absolute food fight. The second one

3:47

was better, but not much better. The truth

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is, we're not learning anything about

3:51

what separates the candidates and why one

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of us should become the nominee of

3:56

the great opportunity party. And frankly, that's

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disappointing. I'd love to see...

3:59

been and thankfully we will spend some

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time on not only the underlying issues

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of the 60 second soundbite but

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with philosophy that undergirds

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that 60 second soundbite. That's where

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the magic is made. The magic is

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actually not magic. It's

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typically hard work pressed

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down, shaken together and then it runs

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over the boundaries according to Luke 6.38

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and then you see the benefits of that hard

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work over time. If we had

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that opportunity to see the summation

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of a 60 second answer because of the

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understanding of the underlying principle, then

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we'd be cooking with oil. By

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the way, great opportunity party. Did

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you make that up? I didn't make it up. I'm sure I got

4:44

it from someone but at the end of the day. I've never

4:46

heard that. It's the most important transition

4:49

that's happening before our very eyes. One thing

4:51

about the grand old party is

4:53

that it does not, the roof

4:56

is not wide and large enough for

4:58

the great opportunity party to emerge. We

5:01

have to have the great opportunity party. The great opportunity

5:03

party is a party driven by principles. Its

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focus is not on populism, it's on principles

5:08

because those principles have undergirded human

5:10

flourishing for all of human history and

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they come from the gospel. When you understand

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those basic principles. Let's go through

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them. I think most people don't know

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what those principles are. That's why we're in the trouble. What

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are the principles? One of those principles for me

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starts with, it's 2

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Corinthians 10, 4 or 5 that says

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take these thoughts captive

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that exalt itself against the Lord

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basically is what it says. Paraphrasing.

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What that basically means is there's something called absolute truth.

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It is a foundational principle on which

5:41

this country was born. The

5:43

idea of America is that there is an absolute

5:46

truth. You

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cannot have an objective standard because

5:52

everything is relative. When everything is

5:54

relative, you get these people in 2023

5:56

who say, oh my truth

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and your truth. There is no truth in my

6:01

truth and your truth. There are experiences

6:04

but there isn't a truth. The truth has to

6:06

be absolute. It has to apply consistently

6:09

throughout all of the universe. And without

6:12

that simple gospel truth,

6:14

you cannot have an objective standard.

6:17

So you can say, my truth is, America

6:19

is a great place. And somebody else can say,

6:23

my truth is that America is an oppressed

6:25

state.

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But what's the principle truth behind

6:29

it? And those are your experiences,

6:31

leads you to the conclusion that America is... And those

6:33

experiences can absolutely be

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real. Well, this is where I'm

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going to love this part of the conversation. I hope we continue this

6:39

way. Our emotions

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are real. They're just not real accurate.

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One of the foundations of this truth

6:49

known as America is

6:52

that we are the greatest nation on God's screen

6:54

there. It's because we sought to do what no other

6:56

country's ever done, which is to be

6:58

born through a declaration of independence

7:00

that says

7:03

that we have things that don't come from each

7:05

other. Because there's a higher power

7:08

that gave us certain inalienable rights,

7:10

life and liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Pursuit

7:13

of happiness is in many ways

7:15

embedded in this notion of the rule of law because without

7:17

the rule of law, the strong take from the

7:19

weak, period. America

7:21

is unique that we believe something

7:24

far greater, far more

7:26

powerful than the strong take from the weak, that

7:29

there are boundaries, there

7:31

are legal limits. That

7:34

is unusual. That

7:36

says that the weak has

7:39

a right to life, born

7:42

or unborn. It says that the

7:45

kid who's living today in rural

7:47

Iowa understands that there is a playing

7:50

field called America that if you

7:53

just... The mayor

7:55

of Dallas, the new convert to the Republican Party said

7:57

it today. If you play by the rules... understand

8:00

the maze and respect law

8:02

enforcement, your chances of succeeding

8:05

in America, pretty darn good. That

8:07

works in rural Iowa or

8:09

any city of Chicago if

8:11

you have

8:13

absolute truth and objective standards. And

8:15

the big thing is you don't have them anymore.

8:17

So people would say that I don't

8:20

have that because I don't have the

8:22

education, I don't have the family, I don't

8:24

have the opportunity. I didn't either.

8:27

I'm here to celebrate the

8:29

goodness of America, not because I was

8:31

born with a silver spoon. Mine was plastic.

8:34

And I grew up with a father in a household

8:36

who was there to teach me all the things

8:38

that you hoped that your father would teach you. I

8:41

missed that part of growing up. I

8:43

did have a strong, powerful

8:45

mother who believed that prayer was the key, that faith

8:48

would unlock the door. And a mentor who came

8:50

along who really complimented

8:52

my grandfather's early teachings

8:54

that, you know what?

8:57

Getting bitter is a choice. Being

8:59

better is also a choice. You

9:02

can only choose one route. I

9:04

chose the route of being better because

9:07

there was someone there that helped me understand

9:10

that the harder I worked, the luckier

9:13

I got. John Moniz, a Chick-fil-A operator,

9:15

Citadel graduate, Goats Bulldogs in

9:17

South Carolina, one of the lessons that John

9:19

Moniz taught me when I was 15

9:22

years old, you got to remember that

9:24

I am the opposite of

9:27

the privileged person

9:29

growing up. I now know we're

9:31

all privileged. If you're living in America,

9:34

I have to tell you. You

9:37

are most of the most privileged people on the

9:39

planet. Yeah. Even,

9:41

I'm sorry, no matter where you're living. No, no

9:43

doubt. You're privileged but this

9:46

particular time, the

9:48

reason why we're having so much strife,

9:51

I think, is because we're absolutely

9:54

ungrateful. We don't recognize

9:57

how great our life is and we're looking

9:59

for something else.

9:59

a bitch about. Well, you're not wrong. I

10:02

think you're right. Here's how I would take

10:04

what you just said and say it in Timism. One

10:06

of the things I'd say is that we

10:08

are like a group of

10:11

people, not Americans, but

10:13

those who believe that victimhood

10:17

is the choice of drugs of today.

10:20

They're like geese lost

10:22

in a rainstorm. They

10:25

have a compass. They have

10:27

an internal guiding system that tells them which

10:29

way to go. The circumstances

10:32

around them have short circuited

10:34

what is innate within them. Americans,

10:37

we are exceptional because our DNA is different.

10:40

We've embedded within the construct of who we are.

10:43

It's just true north. We have a

10:45

compass that works, but when you start looking

10:47

around for feedback

10:50

as opposed to looking up for direction,

10:53

you find yourself like a goose lost

10:55

in a rainstorm. You start thinking

10:58

that what you see around you is more

11:00

important than what you have in you. Our

11:02

founding fathers should be celebrated as geniuses,

11:05

not canceled. Here's why.

11:07

The resources were not the brilliance

11:09

of America. It was this notion

11:12

that you have the right to be

11:15

free, to pursue

11:17

your definition of the American

11:20

dream, embedded in the DNA

11:22

of every human, blessed by God,

11:25

to be an American.

11:28

We not only have that in our DNA, we

11:30

have the opportunity for full expression

11:33

of that passion to be free.

11:35

But if you pervert it,

11:38

you actually see the

11:40

results

11:41

in Baltimore, D.C.

11:44

last night with the carjacking of a congress member,

11:47

to Los Angeles, Philadelphia, 50

11:50

arrested after a melee

11:53

of night. Listen, the facts

11:55

are simple.

11:58

Truth works.

11:59

else?

12:03

What's the role of government? Limited.

12:06

Our founding fathers got that right too. We have

12:08

certainly three different forms of government that we

12:10

could talk about. Article 1 Section 8 is a really good

12:13

place for us to start on the federal level but then

12:15

we also have the state and the local government. If

12:17

you take local you can break that out down into

12:19

two specific areas which are typically the county

12:22

level and then just the city or municipal

12:24

level. The truth of the matter is that

12:26

the less intrusive the government,

12:28

the better off the people seem to be. The

12:30

people who trust the government closest to them more

12:33

therefore why not find ways to

12:35

shift those resources and decisions back

12:38

to the local levels. Classic example,

12:40

I created Opportunity Zones

12:42

as part of the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act

12:46

and one of the things I decided in my Opportunity

12:49

Zones I basically took Jack

12:51

Kim's idea of Enterprise Zones. Wanted

12:54

more money for people living in poverty

12:56

or in vulnerable economic situations. Jack,

12:59

been there, done that, got the t-shirt. Phew, he wanted

13:02

the government to provide more assistance.

13:05

Well, been there, done that,

13:07

got the t-shirt too. That didn't work out very well for me.

13:10

Poverty in my neighborhoods were sky high.

13:12

Unemployment for kids like me was

13:14

over 30%. I

13:16

knew the government was not the answer. Jack

13:19

really had a good idea but that

13:21

one part needed to be shifted. I shifted the

13:23

focus to the private sector. $75

13:26

billion from the private sector, not opinion

13:28

from the federal government, coming into the poorest

13:30

community designated by the governors,

13:33

not by Washington, on where

13:35

those locations should be has

13:37

led to an 8% increase

13:39

in wages, a 20% increase in

13:41

property values, less than 5% gentrification

13:45

and real opportunity

13:47

for poor kids who are really smart, really bright

13:49

but don't have access to the same opportunities

13:52

as wealthier kids. Why not just love the playing field

13:54

and bring opportunities back to those communities?

13:57

The government, when creating

13:59

the right incentives and then taking a step

14:01

out of the way, letting the free market

14:04

miracle work, you

14:06

know, the theory of the invisible hand, as

14:08

it works, we get better results for

14:10

the people who need it the most and the

14:12

people who have it get the incentives,

14:15

capital gains reduction to

14:17

play where they would not play before because

14:19

the risk was too high and the return was too low. If

14:22

you can reduce the risk and increase

14:25

the potential return, people

14:28

will take the calculated risk to do the right thing. Americans

14:31

always do the right thing, sometimes

14:34

after doing the wrong thing.

14:36

I'm a huge fan of the concept that we should

14:39

be buying products made here in America and there's

14:41

a lot, there's a certain level

14:44

of pride that comes from

14:47

making things and knowing you're spending your

14:49

money on things that are made here in America

14:51

and the money that you spend is going to land

14:53

in the pockets of hardworking fellow Americans,

14:56

but it's hard, it's really hard, just

14:59

about everything you buy

15:01

comes from someplace else on the globe or at least

15:04

has parts of it. All too often

15:06

it's China. That's

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So, so help me out on... capitalism

16:00

because if I'm listening to you and I'm 24 years

16:04

old, I've only seen capitalism

16:09

give it to the government, giving it to

16:11

the banks, the banks screwing

16:13

my mom and dad because they lost

16:15

their house in 08. That's

16:17

all I know. So

16:21

why would I want to give any money or

16:23

help have the private

16:25

industry come in and do anything?

16:28

Well you know this is a great question and a fair question.

16:30

This thing about a 24 year old whose

16:33

parents lost their house in 2008, I'm going to compare

16:35

that to the 7 year old

16:37

who had no house to lose

16:40

being me, living in poverty,

16:42

in an inner city community, government's

16:45

always around, trying to provide more resources,

16:47

more help and what was the result of

16:49

that? The stagnation.

16:53

Very static. The people in my

16:56

communities where I grew up most

16:58

often into generational

17:00

poverty. Why? The

17:02

result? Well the great society is a big part of that. Part of the great

17:04

society was that we were going to bring

17:07

checks into households if

17:09

the male, the father would leave

17:11

those households. The devastations

17:14

particularly in black communities can

17:16

be measured in unemployment, measured

17:20

in crime, measured in

17:23

fatherlessness and from the good

17:25

book Hope Deferred Makes the Heart Sick.

17:27

We can now look generations later, decades

17:30

later, 60 years later and

17:32

see that the devastation of the first

17:35

inklings of socialism

17:38

brought by the government into the poorest

17:40

communities, that devastation

17:43

is wreaking havoc all over

17:45

the country in these big blue cities. That

17:49

is avoidable for this 24 year old. I

17:52

brought this up to a couple of people and I'd love to hear

17:54

your opinion on it. How did

17:57

Lynn

17:58

Baines Johnson who was a who was absolutely

18:00

racist to the day he died, horrible racist,

18:03

the guy who stopped the Civil Rights Program

18:06

in the Senate in 1959, all

18:08

of a sudden becomes the architect

18:11

of the great society. I

18:13

am convinced that the people

18:15

that he worked with that produced that did

18:18

not necessarily have African

18:20

Americans' best interest in mind.

18:22

I think it was a poison

18:25

pill. African Americans

18:27

had a higher familiar

18:29

or marriage rate than white Americans

18:32

did. Absolutely. Going

18:34

into this, that's one of the things I said that

18:36

the founder of 1619 Project has been

18:39

just trying to destroy me on the

18:42

web. Congressman Bowman

18:44

called me Sambo because of my positive

18:47

comments the other night. Oh my gosh. I

18:49

mean, the kind of disgusting racism

18:51

that I'm hearing and feeling from people

18:54

who look like me, it would devastate

18:56

the average person. I've just had so much of it over

18:58

the last several years. When I wrote the tax

19:00

cuts and jobs, I think that's one of the three authors

19:02

of the legislation. They called me

19:04

a prop. When I decided I wanted to

19:08

stop the defunding of the police and start refunding

19:11

the police, they called me a token. When

19:14

I pushed back against Biden's agenda,

19:16

they called me the N-word. The one thing I see

19:18

from the radical left and frankly from the power

19:21

brokers who sometimes look like me is

19:23

that they are willing to use class and race

19:26

to hold on to their power even

19:28

at the expense of the American people.

19:30

It is disgusting what we're seeing

19:33

there. I will say that what we've

19:36

learned over time is that the

19:38

radical left says to people like me,

19:40

sit down,

19:42

shut up,

19:43

but don't forget to vote and we mean

19:45

blue. The

19:48

price is too high. You

19:51

think about LBJ

19:54

or Planned Parenthood

19:56

founded for

19:58

the termination. really exterminate

20:02

her perspective

20:03

of blind people.

20:05

And to see where they set

20:07

up their shops, to see what

20:09

they're selling. They're not in my neighborhood.

20:12

It's devastating and that's

20:14

why I feel like it is my

20:16

responsibility as a kid

20:19

who grew up in poverty, as

20:21

a kid who only had a mother

20:23

in the household, as a kid who had a mother who

20:26

barely had a high school education, who

20:28

worked 16 hours as a nurse at the attending

20:31

bed pens and enrolled in patients.

20:33

As a kid whose grandparents

20:36

endured racism

20:39

from the 1920s in the Jim Crow South,

20:42

to pretend that that family

20:45

history didn't

20:47

exist would be alive from the pit of hell. To

20:50

pretend that it is exactly that

20:52

way now would also be

20:54

alive from the pit of hell. So my

20:56

responsibility is to take the seriousness

21:00

of who we are as Americans, the seriousness

21:02

of the issues that we face and take a

21:04

look back and give people a snapshot

21:07

of what is possible in this

21:09

great nation coming from tough

21:12

neighborhoods where my friends were shot,

21:15

buried or locked up. When

21:18

you understand that this country

21:21

works for all of us in

21:23

the year 2023, we should not

21:26

be playing games with people's

21:29

emotions. We should be selling

21:31

socialism in a radical progressive

21:34

movement that has been proven wrong

21:37

not just in Cuba or today

21:40

in Venezuela, but in the poorest

21:42

blue cities in our nation. We

21:45

see the

21:45

results of socialism and

21:47

it's devastated poor

21:50

people.

21:51

it

22:00

have to get before you wake

22:02

up? And I would say that in Detroit in 1960 was

22:05

the greatest city

22:09

in the world. It was the

22:11

iconic city. This is how

22:13

you do it. Right. Totally agree. How

22:16

much, how many times do you have to vote

22:18

that way before you go,

22:20

this is not working out well. My

22:23

answer is stop. Stop. Don't

22:27

do it again. The

22:29

price is too high for your kids.

22:31

The price is too high

22:34

for the people that you love the most. The

22:36

price is too high

22:39

and there is no ROI

22:43

coming your way. We cannot

22:45

sell

22:47

baby Americans

22:49

the path of socialism. When

22:51

they are born they owe basically 90 something,

22:54

I say right around $100,000 per American born in

22:58

this country owed to the government. We

23:01

can do better. Nobody thinks that we

23:03

are going to have to pay that off. Please tell

23:06

me why this debt has

23:09

got to be solved, why we have

23:11

to stop spending. But say

23:14

it to the average person who

23:16

has never felt the effects of this

23:18

debt. Well, the short answer is

23:20

we are a country that brings in $4.8 trillion under

23:23

Joe Biden. He

23:25

plans to spend $7 trillion which

23:27

is 40% over spending. That

23:30

annual deficit, annual deficit

23:32

is $2 trillion. When you

23:34

see that as your future you should ask yourself,

23:37

do you ever have to pay it back

23:39

and do you have to service the debt? The answer to both

23:41

is yes. The immediate

23:44

question then is if I have to pay

23:46

the debt back, what is

23:48

that credit card payment

23:50

today? The credit card payment today

23:53

is an interest only payment that does

23:55

not include the last 11 rate

23:57

increases. Oh my.

23:59

The interest only is 572% or over 10% of all of the revenues

24:02

that we have coming in today. We

24:08

are paying out on interest only.

24:12

Therefore, the $33 trillion

24:15

worth of debt keeps going up without

24:17

being touched. Second thing you

24:19

should ask me is, well, what does that

24:21

look like in five years or in 10 years

24:24

on interest only? Well, if you

24:26

increase the interest rates

24:29

to reflect the 11 rate increases

24:31

we've had that... So this is

24:34

already, it's just coming. We haven't rolled

24:36

over all those pieces of debt. So

24:38

it's already here. What is it? It'd

24:40

be closer, between $1.2 and $1.5 trillion. In

24:45

a nation that only brings in $4.8 trillion,

24:47

said in a way that we understand, one out

24:50

of every $3 would go to

24:52

debt service interest only, not

24:55

to our military, which is about $850 billion, not from Medicare,

24:57

which is about $750 billion, not to Social Security,

25:04

which is $1.1 trillion, not to

25:06

veteran benefits, which is around $400 billion, or Medicaid, which

25:09

is somewhere around $300 billion, or Obamacare,

25:11

no one knows what that costs. Not

25:13

to any of those things. Not to the annual

25:18

expenditures, which we know, we think of

25:20

it as far as the annual corporations, about $1.7

25:22

trillion. None of that.

25:26

Just

25:28

for our debtors,

25:31

one out of every $3.

25:36

That's why you run for president,

25:38

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25:41

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27:06

You don't seem to have either

27:09

party. We're

27:13

getting to the place to where I think

27:19

Charles Sumner was when he spoke

27:21

on the floor of the Senate in the 1850s

27:24

and said, neither of you, neither of you parties are

27:26

serious about anything. You run

27:28

and you say this and then you don't do it.

27:31

And that was the beginning of

27:33

the Republican Party, which was all

27:36

about stopping slavery. And

27:39

it was a group of people who actually believed

27:42

it. They weren't running

27:44

for just an office in power. They

27:46

wanted to do this. They

27:49

wanted to stop slavery.

27:52

Set people free. Right.

27:54

So I keep waiting

27:57

for that moment because I look at the GOP.

28:00

Honestly, I'm done. I'm

28:02

done. Never write a check to the GOP

28:05

ever again. Just

28:07

look at what they've done with the budget. Congress

28:11

has the purse strings. That's constitutional.

28:14

We have had both parties

28:16

in power. It started

28:19

in 2008.

28:20

If Congress doesn't take their power

28:23

back and say, no, you're

28:26

not using that money that way, we

28:28

have the purse strings. The entire

28:31

balance of the Constitution and

28:33

the separation of powers is gone.

28:36

It rests upon getting that

28:38

power structure back the way that

28:40

it's supposed to. So how are you going to do that? I

28:42

think you have to do this from, frankly, it takes the chief

28:44

executive of the United States, also

28:46

known as the president, the commander in chief, that

28:49

says that here are the limits. It's

28:51

not a phone and a pen.

28:54

Here's the Constitution. I'm going to abide by

28:56

it. I mean, the power of my

28:58

veto, I mean, the power of my bully pulpit,

29:00

but I'm not going to pass laws from

29:03

my desk. That is a problem

29:05

that we've been facing for, frankly, multiple

29:08

presidents. And that is a problem that can

29:10

be fixed by a president who says, there

29:13

is a greater good, there's a greater opportunity

29:15

for me to point the rudder of our

29:17

ship in the direction we want the nation

29:19

to sail. So you're saying that you

29:22

would not be frivolous

29:25

and write the kind of executive orders that have

29:27

been written? And, yes,

29:30

I'm saying that, but I go a step further. We

29:34

also have to have a president who reigns

29:36

in the bureaucracy that creates

29:39

rulemaking and they decide that those

29:41

rulemakings are laws. The SEC

29:44

is a classic example. I'm no fan of

29:47

Chair Gensler and probably anybody who's been on the before

29:49

banking committee knows that, including Chair Gensler

29:52

of the SEC. He's making decisions

29:54

about environmental policy as

29:57

the head of the Securities and Exchange Commission.

30:00

He's making decisions about ESG, DEI,

30:03

and the future of this country from sitting

30:05

at his desk. He wants to get everybody's

30:07

identifiable information, who makes a transaction

30:09

in the stock market. He wants to gather to one location

30:12

so that it's easier for people to cyber attack

30:15

us, I guess. I don't know what is that, but there he

30:17

is there. But it's that kind of

30:19

rogue behavior that if you appoint

30:21

the right people who want to actually be textualists

30:23

like we want on the Supreme Court, you want people who are going

30:25

to follow the law in every single

30:28

cabinet position. Getting that

30:30

would transform this nation and it

30:32

would restrain the bureaucracy who

30:34

believes all you have to do is outlive,

30:38

outlast a member of Congress and

30:40

they're not wrong. So getting

30:42

that right is

30:45

a job of a president who has a vision for

30:47

what this nation should be based on

30:49

what we have been. So

30:52

that's great and I agree with you. Everything you

30:54

just said. Donald Trump came

30:56

in and he came in

30:58

kind of a lone cowboy, not

31:01

popular with everybody. You'll

31:04

know, I mean, you've been a constitutionalist

31:07

for a long time. You're

31:10

an extremist according to a lot

31:12

of the people in the Republican Party. I agree.

31:15

You're an extremist. Yes. No,

31:17

you're a constitutionalist. I'm not a constitutionalist. You're

31:19

right. Exactly. But that's

31:21

the way they perceive you. Donald Trump took

31:24

shots from the inside and the outside

31:27

and they are currently trying to show everyone

31:30

this is what happens to you if

31:32

you dare cross us. Yes.

31:35

So how are you going to do it? Yeah.

31:38

Well, listen, I've been taking shots, as I said, from the work

31:40

that I've done on the tax code to working

31:43

on behalf of police reform to working on

31:45

behalf of pushing back on the cancer

31:48

that grows through this Biden administration. You

31:50

just have to be willing to take the shots and

31:52

frankly, push back. I

31:55

think we said this before we came on air, but the Congressman,

31:57

I think, is Conway from the guy

31:59

who pulled the alarm in the house just

32:01

the other day. He referred to some of my comments

32:03

that I made during the debate and said that I was

32:06

being Sambo, which

32:08

is about radical racist thought. He's

32:11

the guy who called you Sambo? Yes. Oh

32:14

my gosh. So disgusting. He reminds me of

32:16

what we would think of as a

32:19

plantation owner using the whip

32:21

to suppress the

32:23

thoughts of people that might

32:26

stand up and say that's wrong. In

32:28

modern America, in 2023, they'll

32:31

say plantation owners use

32:33

their words to suppress anyone

32:36

who looks like me from

32:38

standing up and speaking conservative

32:41

truths. This is the part

32:43

of the battle. When you stand up to that, standing

32:45

up to what the even our side, my

32:48

side, the radicals in Congress,

32:51

which would not of course be the conservatives, the

32:54

populace, that

32:58

is a challenge. It's

33:00

worth having. It's a fight worth having

33:02

for the soul of this nation. Our

33:05

soul is good. I think it was

33:07

Alexis de Tocqueville in the

33:09

1830s French temple that came to America

33:12

looking for the source of our greatness.

33:14

It was our goodness was the conclusion. Yeah.

33:17

He said it rang loudly

33:19

from the pulpits all across America. America

33:21

is great because she's good. However,

33:24

let's stop there for just a second.

33:27

Yeah.

33:29

I'm looking for the preachers

33:31

that are

33:32

ringing the bell from the pulpit. I'm

33:34

looking for the

33:37

black peer preachers who

33:40

will stand up to their own congregation

33:42

and say, I'm looking at my

33:44

own church to do the same. You

33:47

cannot be a member of good

33:49

standing. You cannot be and

33:51

call yourself a Christian if you

33:53

are associating yourself with people who

33:55

want to kill children. We could

33:57

even argue about when that light

34:00

begins but this celebration

34:03

of death

34:05

is immoral. Absolutely.

34:08

Where are they? I will tell you

34:10

that they're harder to find than any pulpit in America,

34:12

frankly, black or white. Yeah. And

34:15

that's part of the challenge that we have. We have to get back to fundamental truths, creating

34:17

a culture that protects and preserves life is

34:20

incredibly important. As a guy

34:22

who has a 100% voting record as a

34:24

conservative, pro-life conservative and a 100% pro-life

34:27

conservative. As per the United States,

34:29

I always want to shake your hand for that. Thank

34:31

you. Absolutely. Yeah, listen, I'm

34:34

on the campaign trail. I

34:36

speak in churches across this

34:38

country. I've had the privilege

34:41

of sharing the good news of the gospel. But

34:43

here's why I think this issue is so important. I've

34:47

taken two young ladies when I was in private

34:50

business for myself who worked for me,

34:53

who were both thinking about having an abortion. I

34:56

took them to the local crisis pregnancy

34:59

center because

35:01

I knew they needed advice that they couldn't get from

35:04

anywhere but people who have been where they are.

35:07

One decided to have an abortion, the other one chose

35:09

life. And the one that had an abortion, I think she was

35:11

about 22, 23 years old at the time, she

35:14

started writing poetry about the worst

35:16

decision she had ever made in her life. I

35:19

don't come at this purely from

35:21

a religious standpoint. I

35:24

watched two young ladies grapple

35:26

with the issue. I

35:28

watched them enter into the doors. One

35:31

made a decision for life, the other one says

35:33

it was the worst mistake she's ever made. I

35:36

will say this, having

35:40

the opportunity to win the hearts and minds of the American

35:42

people on such an important issue is our responsibility.

35:45

It is. And when you have the second

35:47

most powerful woman in all of the government, Secretary

35:51

of the Treasury Janet Yellen

35:53

walk into a banking hearing

35:56

to talk about labor force participation

35:58

rates and she's...

35:59

says that poor black

36:02

women will have a better labor

36:04

force participation rate if

36:06

they have an abortion. Oh my gosh. As

36:10

a kid who was raised in poverty

36:13

by a single black woman, I

36:16

ran down to the banking committee

36:18

and I asked her, I knew I misheard

36:21

her

36:22

and she repeated it.

36:25

Can you have some of the most powerful voices

36:27

in our country suggesting

36:30

that abortion isn't even

36:33

a decision you grapple with but it's a decision that

36:35

helps your labor force participation? With

36:40

tears rolling in my eyes and anger

36:43

in my voice, I thank

36:47

God Almighty that

36:49

my mother chose life. And

36:51

how dare you come down here and

36:54

tell vulnerable women of

36:56

any color of

36:58

the alternative

37:01

for

37:02

better economic outcome?

37:05

I have to tell you, it's not only

37:08

stunning, it is one

37:11

of the most racist things I can imagine

37:14

because

37:15

if that's the way you think of the labor

37:17

force, what about the white women? Right.

37:20

What about white women? Absolutely, all of them. That's

37:23

my whole point is this is something and what

37:25

happens and this goes back to the conversation of eugenics and

37:28

Planned Parenthood is that wherever

37:30

you see powerful people

37:33

willing to take advantage of the vulnerable

37:35

just because they don't look like you or

37:37

live where you live don't think it stays

37:40

there. Three

37:42

out of four African American kids are growing up in poverty

37:45

and in a single parent household. Now, 40%

37:48

of white kids growing

37:50

up in a similar fashion, working

37:53

class white folks. Why is that the case? Because

37:55

anytime you introduce socialism

37:57

somewhere, it's going

37:59

to spread.

37:59

red. Yeah. Our country

38:02

needs a firewall that

38:04

stops this damage from spreading and then

38:07

we reduce the damage.

38:10

You know, it seems like

38:12

there is always a constant battle running

38:14

between cyber criminals and the United

38:17

States government. Who can steal

38:19

the most from people? Well, I

38:21

think we're going to learn in the end. It is definitely.

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OK, I've got a ton of

39:41

questions that I have to know that I have to ask,

39:43

and I know we're limited on time, so

39:46

I just want to go through some standard questions

39:48

we ask all of them. OK, let's

39:51

see. Are you for or against the ongoing

39:54

aid to Ukraine? Well, I am for

39:58

us understanding what is America. America's

40:00

national vital interest in Ukraine.

40:03

Degrading the Russian military is the answer. Should

40:06

we continue to provide assistance to Ukraine? Yes.

40:09

At what level? Very debatable. Second

40:11

question is, should we do it with accountability?

40:14

Absolutely. Why? Acts

40:17

of evil that started in 2014

40:20

under President Obama when he

40:22

allowed for the incursion into Ukraine

40:24

that took Crimea has metastasized.

40:27

No, no, no, no. You know

40:29

this. If you don't, we'll spend some

40:32

time if afterwards. We

40:34

didn't allow that. No, no. Yeah.

40:38

We were part of overthrowing. Obama. Yes.

40:41

Yes, exactly. Yeah, I'm sorry. My

40:44

point though is Obama years devastated

40:47

Ukraine. Twenty

40:50

years after President Clinton

40:52

got the Ukrainians with a promise from America

40:54

to be their firewall

40:59

promises made promises unkept

41:02

and then you saw the manifestation of that through

41:04

the Obama years. The point for me is

41:06

that the China,

41:08

Russia connection started

41:11

before 2016. Let's

41:14

talk about China. Yes.

41:17

I

41:17

think they're going to go into Taiwan. I think

41:19

they want to. I think they are reticent

41:21

to do so because they're not militarily

41:23

prepared as of yet. They will be. They

41:26

will be. I think their stats I've been reading

41:28

and watching and talking to my best

41:32

friends from John Ratcliffe to many

41:35

others on the topic. Their military

41:37

capabilities, they hope to hit their apex

41:40

between 35. They suggested between 27,

41:42

28 they find themselves there. I

41:45

think that's a premature number but this

41:48

one that they hope that we can see the point.

41:51

I think making sure that Taiwan has

41:53

the military capabilities, the missile defense

41:55

systems you saw recently that they

41:57

came up with their own sub. nearly

42:00

a decade saying we can't rely on

42:02

people who say yes to subs but never deliver

42:04

them. We can't rely on on allies

42:07

we're going to do ourselves. It's that kind of ingenuity

42:09

and resourcefulness that you want to reward

42:11

with the kind of training that you've seen,

42:14

the joint training exercises that you've seen

42:16

out that we continue to provide that kind

42:18

of assistance to Taiwan.

42:21

I haven't seen since we switched to

42:24

you know police actions

42:27

and wars. I haven't seen a decisive victory

42:30

in a long time when it

42:32

counts

42:33

and I think that's because I mean

42:37

I think our foreign policy stinks

42:39

on ice. I think the State Department is wrong almost

42:42

every single time consistently.

42:44

Our presidents just follow the

42:47

advice and

42:49

I don't want to go to war with Russia. I don't

42:51

think anybody wants to go to war with Russia. Yeah

42:53

I think we've done a really good job of reducing

42:56

the likelihood of that by the by the degradation

42:58

that we've seen in the Russian military. That's really

43:01

good news. As of today they're

43:03

doing a nationwide drill

43:06

for nuclear weapons. Now that may be

43:09

posturing of course. Tomorrow

43:11

the United States is doing a EAB

43:16

test for the first time I

43:18

don't know on how many years sending

43:21

nationwide only done twice.

43:24

I mean I don't I I

43:28

think we are playing with matches

43:31

in a gunpowder factory.

43:34

One of the reasons why I respect

43:36

Ronald Reagan's peace through strength

43:39

doctrine is because it was so darn

43:42

effective. Yes. Overwhelming

43:45

force. It is the panacea

43:48

too much that ails us from a military

43:50

conflict perspective to the

43:53

extent that we understand and reinvest

43:56

in that single-minded approach of lethality

43:59

and coming home soon. safe, the less likely we

44:01

are to have to use the greatest resource

44:03

we have from a military standpoint and frankly

44:05

purging our military of all the social

44:08

experimentation that we've seen in the last few

44:10

years from the vaccine to gender

44:12

issues to abortion questions to ESG

44:16

and DEI. We have to purge all

44:18

of that out so that our men and women have one

44:20

single-minded focus that

44:22

they're really good at and that

44:25

would I believe help

44:27

reduce the likelihood of threat, not

44:29

increase the likelihood of threat. But you also have

44:31

to look at the fact that it's not only

44:34

Russia, when Jim Mattis was

44:36

on the Armed Services Committee, when Jim Mattis, the great general,

44:38

decided that we needed

44:42

to go from a counter-terrorism strategy

44:44

to a near-peer competition,

44:47

it was because of the

44:49

threats that he saw rising in China.

44:52

Listen, they have more warships than we have today but

44:55

their warships are not the same qualities as ours.

44:57

They have a couple hundred which is a

44:59

significant nuclear arsenal from what

45:01

I've been listening to

45:04

and reading and watching. They want to get to 1,500 by the

45:06

year 2020, 32, 32, 33. So

45:10

we know that the pressure and

45:12

then if you look at the Russian

45:14

military and nuclear arsenal, look

45:17

at Iran's objectives from a nuclear perspective

45:20

and you add in China's growing arsenal,

45:23

you have to ask yourself, where

45:26

is strength that reduces the

45:29

likelihood of this from becoming

45:31

one unit focused on us?

45:34

And it ain't appeasement,

45:38

it's strength. And that's why

45:40

when you see this administration talking

45:43

to Saudi Arabia about a deal with Israel

45:45

that may include a commercial

45:47

nuclear program, you guys are absolutely not. When

45:50

you think about the JCPOA under

45:52

President Obama, absolutely not.

45:55

We have to find a way to reduce the likelihood

45:57

of nuclear conflict in one

45:59

of the world. ways you do so is by shrinking

46:02

its footprint outside

46:04

of our country and making sure that we fortify ours

46:06

within the evolves of our country. So,

46:10

but maybe I'm on a different page

46:13

than you are and many of my

46:15

friends are. We'll

46:18

have conversations that I never dreamt

46:20

that we would ever have before and

46:23

their conversation, so you had one just yesterday

46:25

that said, can

46:29

you tell me how this

46:32

ends well for America? Can

46:34

you show me just on

46:36

the presidential race? Yeah.

46:39

Either side wins. The other side is going to

46:41

say they didn't trust it. If

46:44

you would win

46:48

the election, they would say it was

46:50

stolen or whatever. We

46:53

are in so much trouble

46:56

right now. The whole thing

46:59

is just a tinderbox.

47:02

If the Democrats win, Joe

47:04

Biden would win,

47:06

our side is

47:08

going to say, how is that even possible?

47:11

And it only takes a couple of people.

47:13

We also have war. We have

47:17

a federal reserve that is completely

47:20

out of control. Our budget is

47:22

completely out of control. Our Congress

47:24

is not working. No one's talking

47:27

to each other. We have the

47:29

outside, China, Russia. They

47:31

want us to collapse. I mean,

47:33

we'd be on the ground if this were Russia or

47:35

China because we did it before in Russia.

47:38

We'd be on the ground.

47:41

How does this,

47:44

you know, you're talking about in 2035,

47:47

I think there's a lot of people that go, how

47:49

about 2025? How do we make it to 2025? Yeah.

47:54

I think leadership matters, number one. The fact of the

47:56

matter is there's a way for us to rally this

47:58

country around. Frankly, a revival

48:01

in conviction that we can believe in each

48:03

other. The greatest threat to our country

48:06

does not come from China, does it come from Russia, does it

48:08

come from Iran, does it come from? It

48:10

really comes from internalism. So then... Here's

48:13

how we solve the problem. One of the

48:15

things I've been successful at doing in

48:17

this campaign and campaigns in the past

48:19

is finding a way to use common

48:21

sense conservatism to rally people

48:23

who don't vote for me to the same cause.

48:26

I'll give you two examples, one on the campaign trail and one

48:28

in the United States Senate. On the campaign trail,

48:31

I've been running ads in Iowa that basically

48:33

says four different things. Number one,

48:35

if you're able, bodied in America, you

48:38

work. Number two,

48:40

you take out a loan, you pay it

48:42

back. Number three, if you commit a violent

48:44

crime, you go to jail.

48:47

And number four, God made you a man,

48:49

you play sports against men. 95% of

48:53

Republicans say, heck

48:55

yes. 75% of Democrats

48:58

say, I agree.

49:00

65% I think it is of African

49:03

Americans agree with all four

49:05

points. 58% of millennials

49:07

agree with all the points. We

49:10

have to give this nation a vision

49:12

big enough to compel us to action.

49:15

And one of the ways that we do that I believe

49:17

is to look at the formation of this

49:20

nation and say that the idea of

49:22

America and the American dream

49:24

is alive, it is well. And let me give

49:26

you a grand vision of your

49:28

ability to achieve the American dream, your

49:31

version of it that you can achieve

49:33

it. And let me give you some points

49:36

to think through about what those

49:38

common core principles are

49:40

that builds the greatest society

49:43

we've ever known.

49:45

Let me see, we've only got a couple more minutes.

49:48

I'm DOJ.

49:51

The...

49:52

Weaponization of lady

49:55

justice, which should have a blindfold

49:57

on. I have never agreed.

49:59

When I was small, I remember Nixon

50:02

being impeached. And

50:04

then they pardoned him right away.

50:06

And I thought that was wrong. Now, Mike Lee and

50:09

I have talked about it before

50:11

Trump was impeached. And

50:13

we were talking about Clinton. And

50:15

I said, I think she belongs in jail. And

50:18

you know, with a trial and you know,

50:20

an actual, not a kangaroo

50:22

court, actual facts. And

50:25

if she's found guilty, she should go to trial. And everybody

50:28

should be at that standard. She said, Glenn, that's

50:30

what banana republics do. And I said, but there's

50:32

a point to where it gets so

50:34

bad. People are now, they're

50:36

trying to put Donald Trump in. And I'm actually

50:39

hearing people on the left say, if

50:41

he gets in, he'll put

50:43

people in jail. Well,

50:48

I want to know from you, not

50:51

from vengeance, but

50:55

if people at the highest

50:57

levels, if the people they were lying,

51:00

obstructing, breaking

51:03

the constitution, any of those

51:05

things, will you put them in jail?

51:07

Will you use your bully pulpit to

51:09

say they need to be tried?

51:12

Absolutely. Here's what we need. We as

51:14

a kid who grew up in

51:17

the 1960s and 70s, the one thing

51:19

I yearned for was fairness. Yes.

51:22

I wanted justice for all. I wanted lady

51:25

justice to wear a blindfold

51:27

and make decisions. To me,

51:30

as we first started this conversation off

51:32

of the concept of absolute truth, and

51:34

then I talked about the objective standard. The

51:37

objective standard is how you apply fairly

51:40

the laws of the land equally

51:42

to everybody in the country. If you

51:45

depart from that, you put a big

51:48

question mark. Yeah, on everything.

51:50

On everything, and this Department

51:52

of Justice under Merrick Garland has

51:55

been weaponized to hunt

51:57

Republicans, including the former...

52:00

president, but it doesn't stop there.

52:02

This Department of Justice referred

52:04

to parents attending

52:07

school board meetings as domestic

52:10

terrorists. They show up at

52:12

a pro-life activist home

52:16

with a SWAT team. At the exact

52:18

same time, Marisma

52:22

sits there

52:24

in file 13

52:26

for four years.

52:28

Thankfully, Congressman Comer, winning back

52:31

the majority, elections have consequences

52:33

and they do matter.

52:34

And

52:36

general as I call them, but his name is Senator Chuck

52:38

Grassley, working together to bring

52:41

more and more and more of this information

52:43

to the surface so that we

52:46

can restore confidence. I think the last

52:48

poll I saw said that 17% of Republicans

52:52

had confidence in our Department of Justice.

52:56

Everything's

52:58

gone. We've got trust in all of it. All

53:00

the institutions. All the institutions. And this is what China

53:02

is selling, by the way. China is selling

53:04

that the Western decline is

53:07

irreversible and they point

53:09

to the internal conflict

53:12

as example number

53:15

one. Okay. I've got 90

53:18

seconds. On

53:20

a scale of one to ten, how committed

53:22

are you to this? Ten. Restoring

53:28

fossil fuels. Ten. Okay. Stopping

53:31

all this EV garbage of

53:36

making sure no time, anybody

53:38

can vaccine mandate. Ten.

53:43

The CBDC, the Central Bank Digital

53:45

Currency. Yeah. Is it going to be

53:47

against it or for it? I need more information

53:49

about it. It's only against the whole notion that we're

53:52

eliminating the dollar. So I'm probably at 9.8

53:54

there with the need of .02 for learning

53:56

more about the more of the consequences. Border.

54:01

11. Closing the border, reinstating

54:03

the remaining policy, the remaining Mexico policy,

54:05

the asylum policy that requires you to seek

54:08

asylum contiguous with the country that's near

54:10

yours, finishing the wall for $10 billion

54:13

and not selling off the construction material

54:16

like this president and using

54:18

military-grade technology to stop human

54:20

trafficking and to stop fentanyl from killing another 70,000

54:22

Americans in 12 months.

54:28

Last question.

54:30

Donald Trump just called for the end of debates. He

54:32

just said there shouldn't be any more debates. Okay.

54:38

How do you see

54:42

any of you guys breaking

54:44

through and

54:47

is it important to stay even

54:50

though at this time

54:52

it looks clear he's the front

54:54

runner and there's nothing to change

54:56

on that? Yeah, the

54:59

short answer is absolutely, positively,

55:01

unequivocally it matters to stay

55:03

the course and keep telling the story of

55:06

the goodness of America. We need someone with

55:08

the power of persuasion. We've lost three

55:10

national elections in the row and

55:12

one of those three elections that we lost was January

55:15

the 5th. Everyone knows January the 6th but

55:17

January the 5th, 2021, losing one out of the two Georgia Senate

55:22

seats cost the American people $4

55:26

trillion in

55:28

unnecessary spending. That

55:30

devastation can be reversed by

55:33

having a red wave winning back the

55:35

Senate, expanding the majority in the House.

55:38

That will take me at the top of the ticket.

55:40

By doing so, we not only restore

55:42

hope and create opportunities, we restore

55:44

faith and America. We

55:46

are the city on the hill. We've got to tell

55:49

people,

55:49

shout it from the rooftops.

55:52

Thank you.

55:54

Yes, sir. Thank you, Glenn.

56:01

Just a reminder, I'd love you

56:03

to rate and subscribe to our podcast. Pass

56:06

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