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something for me here for a second Look around, think to

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yourself What if I put this open the market? What if I

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put it on the market? What would I get for it?

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that the answer is so much stuff Realize

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have a relative who wants to, thinking about selling a house And

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I'm like, I just can't, I have too many things to do in

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this house And we just keep saying, or Don't

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do any of it Don't do one bit of it Just,

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just get out of the house But

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you know, sometimes people don't understand that I

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Mm-hmm! Yeah,

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just to follow up on that a bit, we

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were gonna remodel a lot of our

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house, and our realtor said, no.

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Don't do it, right? Don't do it. Don't

2:23

do it. You won't get your money back

2:26

out of it. She did recommend, because we

2:28

had countertops from 2008, so

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we did upgrade that. We upgraded

2:32

countertops, replaced carpeting, where our kids

2:35

had destroyed carpeting. And

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then that was it. That was it. That's

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it, saved us a lot. A fortune, and

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you wind up realizing you're only getting, if

2:44

you get lucky, you get 70% of your

2:46

money back when you do these things. Exactly.

2:48

So they've sometimes, it makes sense, a

2:51

lot of times when you are going to live there and

2:53

enjoy them for multiple years, right? You're just gonna do it

2:55

and then sell it, and

2:57

you might not have the same taste as the

2:59

next person wanting to buy it. That's maybe the

3:02

most critical part, because they want their touches, they

3:04

want their vision for the house. So let them

3:06

have it. Let them do it. We got

3:08

full asking price. Congratulations, that's awesome.

3:10

And this just happened, right? Just happened. We

3:13

sold the house in a week, which was nice. Really?

3:16

Yeah. the interest

3:18

rates are high, prices are going up. That's

3:20

the thing. So you got the realtor situation,

3:23

not to mention, you have a little bit

3:25

of an advantage doing this in Texas. That's

3:28

true. One of the fastest growing

3:30

areas in the country. Yeah,

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and Dallas in particular, this area has been

3:34

very hot for real estate, but there are

3:36

other areas around the country where that's true,

3:39

it's just easier in Texas probably to do

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this. So congratulations. I will

3:43

say, maybe we can get a real

3:45

estate agent that Joe Biden trusts as he moves out of

3:47

the White House come in January. Oh, I can't wait. I

3:49

will pay for the move. Really? If

3:53

he moves out of the White House, and

3:56

I'll pay even more if he'll move out

3:58

early, because that was a good one. That

4:00

would be awesome. But

4:02

yeah, I'll do a GoFundMe page,

4:05

whatever it takes to help him get, you

4:07

know, the Mayflower truck in front of 1600

4:09

Pennsylvania Avenue. That

4:11

is sweet. Yeah. You're just a sweet,

4:13

just a nice guy, right? Yeah, a lot of

4:15

people don't understand that. Partisan politics get in the

4:17

way, not with Pat Gray. Not in this case.

4:19

He will make sure he can push over Biden,

4:22

gets out of that house, even if he wants

4:24

to leave a little early. Yes. You know? Yeah,

4:26

we'll get him right back to Delaware. Wow, that's

4:28

great. Where this Corvette and,

4:30

you know, his ice cream

4:32

parlors. Is the vet parked at Rehoboth Beach,

4:34

or is it in Wilmington? That's what I

4:36

don't know. I think it's Rehoboth Beach. I

4:38

think, I could be wrong on that, but

4:40

it's, wherever it is, he can go

4:43

there, you know, enjoy it. It's

4:45

been interesting to watch the reaction to

4:48

the last couple of days where, if

4:51

you remember, right, and maybe I misunderstood this,

4:54

because it's possible, Pat. Like, there's so much news going

4:56

on. Sometimes you hear things and you don't, you don't

4:58

fully get what's going on. My

5:01

understanding was we did this show on Monday, and

5:03

one of the first things we did on Monday was to

5:06

read a letter from Joe

5:08

Biden, where he very

5:10

clearly indicated he was staying

5:12

in the race. Yeah. Right? That happened, right? That was

5:14

a thing. We talked about that. That was a thing.

5:17

Then we played audio. We didn't

5:19

really get through a lot of it, but we got

5:21

through some audio from the Joe Scarborough experience on

5:23

MSNBC, where

5:26

the, if I remember right, the

5:28

whole tone of that was Joe Biden saying,

5:30

hey, I'm in this

5:33

race. I'm not going anywhere. I'm

5:35

the nominee. I won the

5:37

primary. The debate you're all complaining about, I

5:39

was on stage for it because I was the

5:41

nominee. Like, that's why. So

5:43

it's my nomination. I'm

5:45

staying. No more questions

5:48

about it, right? That was- Yeah, he made it

5:50

pretty clear. Right. Yeah. I

5:52

don't know if Nancy Pelosi heard the show on Monday, but I

5:54

hate to break this to you. Oh, no. Because I know I

5:56

feel like she listens to most of our shows, but

5:59

I don't think she tuned in. in

6:01

on Monday at all or Tuesday or

6:03

any show since the debate. Huh. Because

6:05

she seems to be very confused as

6:07

to what's going on in this new

6:09

clip from MSNBC. It's Nancy Pelosi, and

6:12

she's being asked about

6:14

how Joe Biden

6:16

and whether he's going to stay in the race. And she

6:19

has a different understanding of the situation than I

6:21

do. Hmm. Does he have your support to be

6:23

the head of the Democratic ticket? As long as

6:25

the president has the president, it's up to the

6:28

president to subside if he is going to. We're

6:31

all encouraging him to

6:34

make that decision because time

6:36

is running short. I

6:40

think overwhelming support of the caucus. It's not

6:42

for me to say. I'm not the head

6:44

of the caucus anymore, but he's

6:48

beloved. He is respected. Right.

6:50

And people want him to

6:52

make that decision. He

6:54

has made the decision. He has said firmly

6:57

this week, he is going to run. Do

6:59

you want him to run? I

7:01

want him to do whatever he decides to do.

7:04

Sorry, decide who's running. That's the way it is. Whatever

7:06

he decides, we go with. Wow.

7:09

That is not a ringing endorsement from Nancy

7:11

Pelosi. It's also a lot of words that

7:13

don't exist, like society. I don't know what

7:16

society is. At some point, Joe

7:18

Biden needs to make fun of Biden for

7:22

his speech issues. She's

7:25

got some. She's got them too. I mean, she's

7:27

getting much worse too. I mean, this is like.

7:29

Sounds like she's drunk most of the time. Yeah.

7:32

And I think it's just. I don't know. Is it age

7:34

or is it alcohol? I mean,

7:36

it's a morning show. Yeah, actually, I'm not

7:38

sure. I'm not sure either. I do. It's

7:40

weird because we've been watching these same figures

7:43

the entire time we've been doing talk radio,

7:46

right? Like the whole time. It's been the

7:48

same people basically in charge. I feel like

7:50

we're standing out in the

7:52

park watching

7:54

Mount Rushmore sort of just melt.

7:58

Like it's really weird. Like all these

8:00

big figures, they just get worse and

8:02

worse and worse every time you see

8:04

them. Mitch McConnell,

8:07

Nancy Pelosi, obviously

8:09

Joe Biden, and

8:11

so many more, and

8:13

they don't leave office. They

8:16

stay in their jobs. They just get,

8:19

it's like if Michael Jordan came

8:22

back today and we had

8:24

to watch him play, I mean, he probably still average

8:26

14 a game, but it would

8:28

be tough. I mean, he had Michael Jordan, he comes back,

8:30

he wins all these championships, and then he came, remember he

8:32

came back with the Wizards for a couple of years, and

8:34

he was still pretty freaking good. Yeah, he was. He was

8:37

like 40 years old, he's still scoring 20 points a game,

8:39

but like you could tell, there's a big drop off. If

8:42

he, you know, it just seems like, what if he just kept playing

8:44

until he was 80? I mean,

8:46

that's what it's like watching these people. It

8:49

is. They can't do the basic things that

8:51

they used to do. Joe Biden was

8:53

never obviously a great politician.

8:55

He has accomplished very little in his life.

8:58

This is obvious to anyone who isn't a Democrat begging

9:00

him to get out right now. Right

9:03

now, the way to get him to get

9:05

out of the race is to say,

9:07

you've been incredible. This presidency has

9:09

been incredible. This three and a half years

9:12

has been the most amazing three and a

9:14

half years of any presidency of all time.

9:16

You are so great, Joe, get out. I

9:19

understand that approach. You're playing up to

9:21

his ego, you're trying to persuade him,

9:24

but we should draw the line here,

9:27

Pat. This is not true.

9:30

Joe Biden- The three years of incredible presidency

9:32

is not true? Yeah, it's not true. Joe

9:35

Biden has not been a good president at all. He's

9:37

been a very bad president. Very bad.

9:40

A piece of evidence to support this would be

9:43

the fact that he had a 36% approval rating

9:46

before the debate. Yeah. No

9:48

president, to my knowledge, give me a

9:50

call, correct me if I'm wrong, but

9:53

no president in recent history has

9:55

been able to recover from approval ratings like

9:58

this and win the presidency. Done.

10:02

Let me give you the list of the names. I'm done.

10:04

It doesn't

10:06

happen. It doesn't

10:08

work. Give me that list again. Sure, right here. I'm going to give

10:10

you one more time. Here it comes. Some of the name. Done.

10:13

Okay. Wow. It's

10:16

an extend- and that's, I believe- That was the

10:18

extended list? The extended list. Okay. George

10:24

W. Bush did come

10:26

back from a slight polling

10:28

issue in this time. Now, of

10:30

course, George W. Bush was

10:32

not in his 80s when he did

10:34

such a thing, but

10:36

he wasn't- Mid-50s, if I

10:39

remember correctly. Yeah. He was in his

10:41

prime as a politician, and

10:43

he was not down as much, and it

10:45

was not dealing with the types of things that Joe Biden

10:47

is dealing with. I mean, it's

10:49

possible to come back. It doesn't mean that this election

10:51

is decided. In fact, it's, I

10:54

would argue, uncomfortably close. I

10:56

mean, considering what we saw yesterday, what

10:58

we didn't see as

11:01

aftermath of that debate was a

11:03

massive polling collapse for Democrats. We

11:06

didn't see that. We didn't see an 8-point, 9-point

11:09

drop. We saw, I don't know,

11:11

a three-point movement, the normal movement of a blowout

11:13

debate. That to me

11:15

was worse than a blowout debate, and there was certainly

11:17

a part of me hoping that it would be even

11:20

larger. It might wind up being that way. We don't

11:22

know yet. But politicians,

11:25

presidents running for reelection that want to

11:27

run for reelection and have a 36%

11:29

approval rating don't

11:31

win reelection. That's just

11:33

the way this typically works. It's

11:36

not impossible. Donald Trump obviously brings

11:38

some unique things to

11:40

the table in an election. We've talked many,

11:43

for many years about Trump derangement syndrome,

11:45

where people, I mean, to

11:47

define that generally, we're

11:50

talking about irrational hatred for Donald Trump

11:52

no matter what. So when you

11:54

have someone who has a syndrome named after him, there's a

11:56

lot of people who have a syndrome named after

11:58

him. People who

12:00

just will vote against him no matter what,

12:02

even if his opponent is incoherent. And so

12:04

that's gonna make it to be a close

12:06

election no matter what, I think. I

12:09

don't think you're gonna get even a Barack Obama,

12:11

John McCain type of result, which was,

12:13

I think we talked about it earlier, 54-45, I

12:16

think was the number on that, if I'm remembering right. It

12:18

was eight or nine points. That's

12:20

about as big a blowout as you can possibly

12:22

come up with in today's politics, with

12:24

people polarize the way they are. I

12:27

don't think you're gonna see that here. You

12:29

should. It's really hard to imagine

12:32

in this day and age, blowouts like

12:34

we saw with Ronald Reagan, you

12:36

know, who won 49 states. Yeah.

12:40

I can't, can you imagine that happening today?

12:42

No. I mean, Ronald Reagan,

12:45

49 state, including California, which,

12:47

and New York, which you'd

12:49

never see happen today. You'd never see

12:51

that happen. So,

12:54

yeah, it's always gonna be

12:56

close. And it is

12:58

too close for comfort even now, even

13:00

a couple of weeks after the debate

13:02

now. It's two weeks

13:04

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13:07

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14:47

let's say that Joe Biden does step aside

14:51

and it turns out

14:53

that Kamala Harris becomes

14:56

the nominee for the Democrats. Who's

14:58

her vice president going to be? You know

15:00

the rumor I'm hearing is

15:02

Gretchen Whitmer. You imagine

15:04

two women on the ticket? I mean, not that

15:06

long ago where there was one woman

15:08

on the ticket and that didn't even happen.

15:14

To have two women on the ticket, we're moving down this

15:17

path pretty fast now. Is Geraldine

15:20

Ferraro available? I

15:22

don't know if she could step up. I

15:26

just feel uncomfortable. Is she alive? Again,

15:30

is the president alive? I don't

15:32

know that she's any less alive than Biden. That's

15:34

a good point. I

15:38

don't buy Whitmer with Kamala. I

15:41

don't think that would be the choice. I

15:43

could definitely see Newsom as

15:45

a... Yeah, I could see that. I

15:48

could see someone like... Although

15:51

that's California, so that would be an issue, wouldn't

15:54

it? Yeah, to California.

15:56

Again, those problems are real

15:58

but solvable. You can always

16:00

get around them, but that would be an interesting one. You

16:03

know, someone like a, you would probably

16:05

wanna go, what about a Josh Shapiro from

16:07

Pennsylvania? I think that would be a real

16:09

possibility. He's an up and

16:11

coming star. He's from the region.

16:13

They need to, and they need Pennsylvania pretty

16:15

desperately. He'd be a guy I

16:17

think would be, especially not needing to step into the top

16:20

of the ticket, but stepping into that secondary role, I think

16:22

it would be a serious consideration. A lot of this has

16:24

to do too, with what is Kamala's

16:26

relationship with these people. I mean, I have

16:28

no idea. If

16:31

you go by the Barack Obama rule, which

16:33

is don't, the

16:36

Barack Obama rule, if you go back and

16:38

read, you know, his heavily reported biographies,

16:42

is basically like America is a bunch

16:44

of racists. They can't

16:46

take more than one exotic candidate on

16:48

a ticket. This is why

16:51

you had Joe Biden on the ticket. He specifically

16:53

picked him because he was old and

16:55

white. That's not

16:58

like me speculating. This has been heavily

17:00

reported. He picked him because he thought

17:02

the American people couldn't

17:04

deal with another person

17:06

of color on the ticket. They're too racist. They

17:09

couldn't deal with another younger person on the ticket.

17:11

They were too, they

17:13

were, you know. So he needed a racist on

17:15

the ticket. You're saying Joe

17:17

Biden needed a racist on the ticket. What

17:19

evidence do you have of Joe

17:22

Biden being racist? There's, you know, this, but

17:24

it's, you know, not, you're

17:30

not hearing it. I'm not hearing it, no. But

17:33

it's there. My understanding, yeah, well, let's

17:35

hear it. Let's, maybe you have. I

17:37

mean, I might. Okay, well,

17:40

I might have. Maybe you got the

17:42

first sort of mainstream

17:45

American who

17:48

is our ticket and right and

17:50

clean and clean. I

17:54

mean, that's a storybook, man. Storybook, that doesn't

17:56

happen in real life. Can you imagine a

17:59

clean African? American. What

18:01

a storybook that would be. Thank you

18:03

Joe Biden for bringing that analysis to

18:05

us, because I mean, can

18:07

you imagine, we're talking also not about just

18:09

a clean African American, which would be a

18:11

storybook in and of itself, according to Joe,

18:14

but also one that could speak. Not

18:18

articulately. Yes. I'm

18:20

saying you have an articulate, clean.

18:23

I mean, not totally articulate. Yeah,

18:25

sort of articulate. That's like, that's

18:28

another world. Right. But it'd be

18:30

sort of articulate and clean,

18:33

you're saying. And that's what I'm saying. You got

18:35

to keep your storybooks believable, right?

18:37

Like it couldn't possibly happen. Yeah. According

18:39

to the- They got from storybook to

18:41

sci-fi. Right. According to the book of

18:43

Joe Biden, it couldn't possibly happen. You'd

18:45

have an actually articulate, clean black man.

18:47

No. But in this particular situation, you

18:49

have a sort of articulate, clean black

18:51

man. Now, is he sort of clean

18:53

or is he fully clean and only

18:56

sort of articulate? Well, he does say

18:58

clean. He doesn't- He doesn't qualify that.

19:00

He doesn't qualify clean. So I think

19:02

he's talking about, he might have even

19:04

taken a full shower. And by the

19:06

way, we should point out, the only

19:08

reason Joe Biden is president

19:10

is because of the black vote. Somehow

19:12

he was able to survive that statement.

19:14

Yeah, and many more. And many more.

19:17

Problem figuring out whether you're for me

19:19

or Trump and you ain't black. Oh,

19:21

okay. He survived that.

19:23

Yep. And he went to James Clyburn and

19:25

was like, please endorse me. And he did.

19:27

And now, in his moment

19:30

of stress, what is keeping him in

19:32

this office? The Congressional Black Caucus. It's

19:35

incredible. It is incredible. This man

19:38

has said more overtly racist things

19:40

than- Oh, than anybody. Obviously more

19:42

than Donald Trump, who they all

19:44

say is racist. More than any

19:46

presidential candidate going back to, probably

19:48

to LBJ. It's not even close.

19:51

It's not even close. If, and you

19:53

know what? LBJ's comments were in private.

19:55

This guy's done it all publicly. It's

19:58

true. We actually have to- Now

20:01

we know LBJ was a racist,

20:03

however he was saying those things

20:05

not in front of the cameras. This is Joe Biden in

20:08

front of cameras doing it. Yeah. Over

20:10

and over and over again. That's

20:12

how blatant the largest growth in

20:14

population is Indian Americans moving from

20:16

India. You cannot go

20:18

to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin

20:20

Donuts unless you have a slight

20:22

Indian accent to pull it. I'm

20:24

not joking. And he's

20:26

not joking. He's actually being racist right there.

20:28

He's not joking about it. No, he's serious

20:30

about his racism. That's

20:33

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888-727-BECK. I

23:37

like this political story. From

23:40

Politico, Trump's platform has changed

23:43

the GOP's position on abortion

23:46

and it's not just abortion but that's one of

23:48

the big ones and not everyone

23:50

is happy. I

23:53

would be included among not everyone.

23:55

Really? Yeah, I would.

23:57

I would also appreciate the fact that

24:00

the Republican Party has just adopted Trump's

24:03

newfound liberality, I

24:05

guess, on abortion. I, how

24:08

can you do that? Either,

24:11

either you believe that abortion

24:14

is killing a baby or

24:16

you don't. Yeah. Which

24:18

is it? I don't really understand the middle

24:20

ground on it. Yeah, it's hard to understand.

24:22

Either you think it's going to come out

24:24

as a Volkswagen. Right. And it doesn't

24:26

matter what you do. Or you think it's a human child. Or we

24:28

think it's a human child and you need to protect it. Kind

24:31

of the two positions that make sense to me. Now, of

24:33

course, the Volkswagen one doesn't make sense to me and

24:36

therefore I don't support it, but at

24:38

least morally it makes some sense. If you

24:40

believe this is just some weird alien life

24:42

form that occasionally comes out as a boy

24:44

or a girl, maybe you

24:47

could justify not caring whether

24:49

it lives or dies. Or you

24:51

take the, say, Bill Maher position,

24:53

who does believe actually said,

24:55

yeah, it is kind of murder. In fact, it's

24:57

not just kind of murder. It is murder, but

25:00

I'm okay with it. I guess you can

25:02

do that. We're too overpopulated, Pat. You

25:04

got to get the population bomb out of the library. It's

25:06

got a little bit of dust on it and everything in

25:08

it is wrong, but let's just still keep honoring those

25:11

positions. Yeah, this is a weird

25:13

one. It is very weird. I'm

25:16

trying to think through this a little bit, right? I'm

25:18

trying not to be reactionary because I happen to be

25:21

someone who is very pro-life and I

25:23

don't feel that

25:25

equivocation is the correct response

25:28

to this particular issue. You know,

25:31

I have this weird vibe that

25:33

maybe babies should be

25:35

allowed to live. That is weird.

25:37

Wow. I don't know where I came up with

25:39

it. In every case though? I mean, not every

25:41

case, right? Just sometimes. I was thinking like... If

25:43

you feel like it and it's convenient for you.

25:45

No, no, no, no, that's actually not what I'm

25:48

saying. What I'm saying is they should just have

25:50

a chance to live their lives. But

25:52

what if it's inconvenient? What

25:54

if I'm not the CEO of a

25:57

major corporation at the time? I

26:00

might struggle from time to time. No, this makes it much

26:02

more difficult. Now I still have them live. Really?

26:05

Yeah. In all circumstances... Wow, you're

26:07

an extremist. ...children should be allowed

26:09

to live. What kind of right-wing

26:11

kook are you? Yeah. Wow. And

26:13

people will say, well, that's true.

26:15

I mean, what if we lose

26:17

the next Einstein or the next

26:20

Michael Jordan or who knows what we could

26:22

lose? Also, a person who

26:24

makes no difference at all. What

26:27

about the idiot who cuts you off in

26:29

line at Sonic? That person

26:31

also deserves a chance

26:33

to live. All

26:37

people deserve

26:39

a chance to live. If they

26:41

screw their life up once they're

26:43

born, that's on them. Okay. But

26:45

we should be involved in maybe

26:48

allowing babies to live. It's a

26:50

crazy position. It is. It's nutty.

26:52

It's history. And I

26:54

mean, this sincerely, it is

26:56

extreme. Because you want to

26:58

call me, and Pat, you'd be on

27:00

this board bandwagon as well, a pro-life

27:02

extremist. It's probably a fair description because

27:04

our opinion is not widely held for

27:07

whatever reason. It's not. That's true. I

27:09

understand that. That's true. We're in the

27:11

vast minority on that.

27:13

And I will say that

27:16

seems to be the calculation

27:18

of the platform, right? And

27:21

I think a lot of people think that's reasonable

27:23

because you got to get elected. Well, Trump said

27:25

it during the debate. Yep. We have to be

27:27

elected. Well, I

27:29

mean, that is true. And

27:32

I will say under normal circumstances,

27:35

my reaction to this platform, which has plenty of

27:37

good stuff in there as well, like preventing World War

27:39

III, I'm on board for that. Yeah, me too. I

27:41

don't think we should have World War III. I didn't

27:43

like one or two. No. We don't need a third

27:46

one. Let's not have it. Now, you weren't around for

27:48

either one or two, and neither was I. So how

27:50

do you know you don't like it? You know, you

27:52

should always, you should knock something before you try it.

27:54

Right. Right. That's a good

27:57

one. That's why they're trying to get us to

27:59

try this third one. Maybe it'll be better. better

28:01

and more fun than the first two. Yeah. I've

28:03

noticed Democrats usually disagree with the Republicans. I

28:05

mean, they seem to be wanting the World War

28:08

III thing and weird, how they flipped on that.

28:10

So weird. So bizarre. Now

28:12

they would say, of course, they don't want World

28:15

War III. That's what they would say is that,

28:17

well, you guys were all about Iraq and Afghanistan.

28:19

And I would say, yes, I was at the

28:21

time, but I think I've

28:23

learned something over the last 20 years of perpetual

28:25

war. And I'd like to avoid

28:27

that now. It'll teach you some lessons.

28:29

Yeah. Yeah. And I, I remain,

28:32

I think, concerned

28:35

with the geopolitical, fallout

28:38

of doing nothing in

28:41

some of these situations. Like, but I will

28:43

say, you know, it should be a last

28:45

resort. War should be a last resort. It

28:47

shouldn't be the first resort. Yeah. And you

28:49

know, the situation in Ukraine and Russia is

28:51

fascinating because you're right. All of the sudden

28:54

Democrats are so incredibly passionate. All about

28:57

it. It's all they care about now.

28:59

Yeah. They want to be involved.

29:01

They all of a sudden hate Russia after almost

29:03

all of their officials went on vacations there back

29:05

in the day. I

29:07

mean, this was like, they all have townhouses there

29:09

still. And they all of a sudden, we're supposed

29:12

to believe they're anti Russia. Do you remember this

29:14

from Barack Obama? The 1980s are now calling

29:16

to ask for their foreign policy back because, you

29:19

know, the cold war has been over for

29:21

20 years. I mean, that was his attitude.

29:23

Yeah. In 2012, that was Barack Obama's attitude.

29:26

Russia's not a problem. No, they're a friend.

29:28

They're a friend. They're not something to be

29:30

afraid of at all. You should be afraid

29:32

of ISIS or whatever, but

29:34

not Russia. And it does sort of bother

29:36

me that we highlight that clip because it

29:38

is basically the best moment of Mitt Romney's

29:41

career. Yeah. And it's frustrating to highlight it,

29:43

but it is. He was right on that.

29:45

He was. We said he was right at

29:47

the time. Yes, we did. Russia is maybe

29:49

not number one, but the top three when

29:51

you're talking about major international threats. I would

29:53

say China is probably number one now. That's

29:55

where I would go as well. So you

29:58

look at this. this

30:00

platform and there's a lot of good stuff in there.

30:02

It's, I think a smart decision, I

30:05

think, to transform what

30:08

the old school process was, which was, you know,

30:10

you've got a 300 page platform that

30:13

no one ever reads and no one really pays attention

30:15

to and shrink it down to about 20 points that

30:19

everyone can kind of, you know, generally agree

30:21

on and that are

30:23

consistent with the Republican party ideal.

30:25

So I think that process is

30:27

fine. In the summary

30:29

of the 20 points, the word abortion doesn't

30:31

even exist. This has been a

30:34

central part of the Republican party's ideals

30:36

for a very long time. A

30:39

part of it, you know, the overturning

30:41

of Roe versus Wade was the beginning

30:44

of the end of abortion, if

30:47

you are of the optimistic

30:50

sort, but it was also part of a 50

30:53

year legal battle, a

30:57

50 year effort to

30:59

overturn one of these, one

31:02

of the worst legal rulings in history. So

31:08

the fact that it would just be abandoned and

31:10

there is some sort of boilerplate language

31:12

in the expanded document that kind of

31:15

indicates, Pat, well,

31:17

we're against late term abortion. That's

31:20

good, you should be. Yeah. That's

31:23

it? And that's it. It says

31:25

something about being generally pro-life, like it

31:27

doesn't really define that. I

31:30

just feel like, I have two minds of

31:32

this, Pat, tell me where you

31:34

would land and maybe we could get calls on this

31:36

888-727-BECK because

31:38

it does, it's a tough one

31:40

in some ways, if you think it out. Number

31:43

one, the platform, who

31:45

even reads it? I think you can make

31:48

the argument it doesn't mean really a thing. Number

31:50

two, Donald Trump has

31:53

a pretty good record on this topic, like

31:55

he appointed justices. Yeah, who overturned.

31:58

Overturn over suede. It's something

32:00

that both you and I together have said for

32:02

many years would never happen. And

32:04

then it happened. So how can you question

32:07

the guy? On

32:09

the other hand,

32:11

it seems very much like it's

32:13

politics here where the

32:16

calculation being made this time by Donald

32:19

Trump is what benefits him to be

32:21

elected is to be sort of soft

32:23

on this issue, to not scare suburban

32:25

women away. I understand that

32:27

as a political calculation. Maybe it's the right one. But

32:30

his calculation in 2016 was

32:33

we have weakness with evangelical

32:35

Christians and others

32:37

that are pro-life. We

32:39

should be strong on this issue. And

32:42

that's a different position than the one he has

32:44

today, seemingly. I get that, well, they made the

32:46

decision it's going back to the States, but

32:50

I don't know. How do you

32:52

work through this yourself? Well,

32:55

I'm having a hard time too. I'm struggling with it because

32:58

you do have to be elected. And

33:00

he said that at the debate. Otherwise,

33:04

you've got a Democrat in office again,

33:06

and especially this one who

33:09

is killing us. He's

33:11

just killing us. And so he's making a

33:13

political calculation. And a lot of people

33:16

think he should. On abortion, I

33:18

don't think you can make that calculation.

33:21

On abortion, it's too important. It's

33:24

too critical. Again,

33:27

you're either pro-life or you're not. I

33:30

think there's one exception, and that's the mother's

33:32

life in danger. But that almost never happens.

33:34

Yeah, I mean, it's pretty... Almost never happens.

33:37

It's incredibly rare. I mean, some

33:39

doctors say it never happens. And

33:42

it's, again, like... Because you could do a C-section,

33:44

right? I think that's the point

33:46

is that, well, you can deliver the baby still. You don't

33:48

have to afford it. You have to deliver the baby. Yes.

33:52

You have no choice. Eventually, you have to deliver it. It's just whether you're going

33:54

to try to deliver it alive or dead. Yeah. Again,

33:59

with that particular one... it

34:01

can get a little messy. So, but again,

34:04

it's still a difficult decision for anyone. You're

34:06

just choosing one life for another and like,

34:09

how do you deal with that? But this

34:11

is what it gets, winds up happening with

34:13

these debates. You get a sidetrack just the

34:15

0.0001% of possibilities. At

34:19

the end of the day, if we

34:21

just saw both Donald Trump and J.D.

34:23

Vance, who is one of the leaders for VP, go

34:27

on television and say they're pretty much okay with

34:29

Mipha Presto, which is like, we're

34:32

talking right now about 60 to 70% of abortions are

34:35

going with the abortion pill. Right. You

34:38

know, if these things that are

34:40

tossed out there like, oh, well, what about 15

34:42

week ban? Well, you're allowing

34:45

95% of abortions to occur with

34:47

a 15 week ban. These

34:49

are not pro-life positions. No. They're

34:52

more pro-life than AOC. You

34:55

know, if that's your standard, I guess you're hitting it.

34:58

But like a pro-life standard is trying

35:00

to stop abortions. Even a six week

35:02

ban allows 40% of abortions to occur.

35:07

Wow. I mean, is

35:10

that a pro-life position? It's

35:12

half pro-life. And

35:14

the abortion pill thing, I don't even understand how

35:16

you can be okay with that. How

35:20

can you, if you're pro-life, I mean, I understand

35:23

it if you're pro-abortion. I don't

35:25

understand it from the Republican party standpoint.

35:28

I don't get it. But again,

35:30

maybe we're too extreme on this. Yep. Very

35:32

possible. Do you care, first of all, that it's not

35:34

in the platform, number one? And number two, do you

35:37

understand the calculation here? 888-727-BECK, is it okay? Are

35:41

you okay with it? I mean, if

35:43

you're like AOC and you're like, I want to have 14 abortions

35:45

next week, that's not really the person I'm looking to

35:47

hear from. I want someone who's pro-life and it's like,

35:50

okay, look, I just, I think

35:52

it's totally fair to just say,

35:54

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and Stu for Glenn this week. Triple

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eight seven two seven BECK. Are

39:05

you okay with the compromise the Republican Party

39:07

is making in their platform on

39:10

abortion? Actually, the abortion issue doesn't

39:12

really figure into

39:14

the platform much at all, does

39:17

it? You said they just kind of in

39:19

passing mentioned that they're generally pro-life.

39:21

The main summary that they released does not

39:23

mention the word abortion at all. And there's

39:25

nothing about it at all. In the expanded

39:27

16 page version, it

39:29

does in passing mention it and only

39:32

says they're against late term abortion. It

39:35

just shows how frightened off

39:37

they've been by the

39:39

outcry of the Democrats. It's

39:42

worked really well for Democrats. It

39:44

has and it worked really well. I

39:47

still don't necessarily believe you're winning or losing

39:49

this election based on that law. But

39:52

you've said before, even if you do lose it

39:55

though, is this an issue worth losing

39:57

an election over? It's

39:59

a tough one. It is a tough one. Yeah,

40:01

it really is. Let's go to Liz in

40:03

New York. Hey, Liz, you're on the Glenn Beck program, Pat and

40:05

Stu. Hi, thank you for taking

40:07

my call. Um, so I,

40:11

I called in because I was raised

40:13

by a single mother, very liberal Democrat,

40:15

um, who is an atheist, but

40:18

yet also told me abortion was my

40:20

God given right as a woman. It

40:22

somehow made what I now

40:25

term sexual immorality, you know, made me equal to a

40:27

man. I could walk away from a pregnancy just as

40:29

easily as a man could. Um, I

40:31

ended up getting, well, I've got married. I had

40:33

my first kid. With our second

40:35

child though, there was a problem with

40:38

the pregnancy. And I remember when you were

40:40

in the car, both of us

40:42

debating in our own head, we were both, you

40:44

know, pro choice at the time. And I wanted

40:46

this baby. I wanted this baby. I'm going to

40:49

get emotional. I wanted this baby. And then,

40:52

um, one of us said,

40:54

I think we should have him. And the other one

40:57

went, we should have tears and everything. So we have

40:59

this wonderful, he's now 15 years old. He has special

41:01

needs. And I wouldn't change a damn thing.

41:03

I, I, we, she makes my

41:05

life perfect along with my older

41:07

child of course. But I also started

41:09

at that time listening cause how do you, when you're

41:11

pro choice and then you make this decision to have

41:13

this baby and you know, this is the life we

41:16

live. I started really listening to some of the pro

41:18

life arguments and some of them, I just didn't have

41:20

a good answer to. And as

41:22

a pro choice person, that's what started to

41:24

change my mind. I now consider myself pro

41:26

life. And while I

41:29

am not, I'm not comfortable with,

41:31

with the Republicans saying, well, we're

41:33

okay with it. You know, at this point or that

41:36

point, you're right. I agree with you guys that you're

41:38

either okay with killing a baby or you're not. But

41:41

if we, if we don't allow,

41:44

we wait and I feel like this is a long

41:46

process. It's going to be a long process of the

41:49

pro life movement, really working with people and

41:51

doing things like those sonograms and

41:54

showing others there are. It's

41:56

really important and we think we're out of time, but thank you for your

41:59

call. We're gonna have more on this. here in a second. The

42:01

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43:01

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43:05

Pat and Stu. We've been

43:07

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43:09

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43:12

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43:14

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43:17

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43:19

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43:22

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45:15

just how, how important is being

45:17

pro-life to you? To me,

45:19

it's pretty important. I mean, it's, is

45:22

there a more important issue than this? Than

45:25

life? I

45:27

don't think so. I mean, we have, we do

45:29

have a situation where tens of millions of people

45:31

should be alive that aren't. Yeah. Well, that's a

45:33

big one. Yeah. It's hard to, and

45:35

that's just in the US. It's 64 million here. It

45:40

is over a billion worldwide. That's

45:43

staggering. Now on the left, they're

45:46

fine with that because we're overpopulated

45:48

to begin with according to many

45:50

of them. But I mean,

45:54

every person on this earth could fit on

45:56

the Island of Maui. Every

45:58

person on earth. I mean, you'd be

46:00

a little bit crowded. Yeah. It'd be like

46:02

a concert. If all the rebellion of us got there, but yeah. Yeah.

46:05

You can do it. I mean, be shoulder to shoulder.

46:07

Can you imagine if you just stretched that out

46:09

to Texas, we'd all have some room. Mm-hmm. Let

46:12

alone spreading us out over the entire face of

46:14

the planet. I mean, I don't know how many

46:16

people you can fit on this earth and

46:18

how many we can feed, but it's a lot.

46:21

It's more than we have now. I mean, if

46:23

you're a person of faith,

46:26

I tend to come to the conclusion that it's unlimited.

46:29

Just keep them coming. And you know what? I'd like to

46:31

have more. Yeah. I think having people on the earth is

46:33

a good thing. When you've lost over

46:36

a billion people worldwide, you just wonder,

46:38

gosh, would one of them have cured

46:40

cancer? And it's possible, right?

46:43

I mean, well, we know one of them is Joe

46:45

Biden promised he was gonna do it. So that's gonna

46:47

happen any day now. You can check if it's done

46:49

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46:51

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46:53

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46:55

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46:57

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46:59

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47:02

is the video of Joe Biden during the campaign promising

47:04

that he would cure cancer if elected. So this is

47:06

not just us saying, wow, this is a crazy campaign

47:08

promise. I've heard no one ask

47:11

him about this campaign promise. No

47:13

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47:15

joe biden cured cancer dot com? The

47:18

answer now is no. Oh

47:20

wow. Cancer still exists as of Wednesday,

47:22

July 10th. Dang it. Darn

47:24

it. We were so close. So close. Yet,

47:28

so seemingly far away. Let's

47:30

go to Patty in Connecticut. Hey Patty, you're

47:32

on the Glenn Beck program with Patten Stu.

47:34

Thank you for taking my call and covering

47:37

this very important subject. I actually am pro-life.

47:39

I'm a former critical care nurse, registered nurse,

47:41

and I worked for about five, six years

47:43

in an OBGYN office. And it actually enlightened

47:45

me to where they're coming from and what

47:47

people are thinking. I think

47:50

people are in an impossible situation sometimes

47:52

and they anguish over it. They don't

47:54

want to, but their situations are so

47:56

constrictive that they are not able to

47:58

afford a child. and don't have any

48:00

support systems in place, I

48:03

would think we would benefit a lot

48:05

from looking for solutions. Having Women's Center,

48:07

with counseling, with options,

48:10

with people who sit down and just

48:12

trying to steer people for abortions, talk

48:14

to people and see what we can

48:17

do for them to actually facilitate them

48:19

being able to have the life. And

48:21

people are tormented later in

48:23

their life over decisions when they have

48:26

had abortions. So it stays with people.

48:28

So many of that, and if they

48:31

had free ultrasounds, offer them

48:34

Women's Centers with healthcare,

48:36

with counseling, with options,

48:39

and the ultrasound, the sonogram is so very

48:41

important and it connects them with their child

48:43

in life. And it will

48:45

actually, I think, actually remedy a lot

48:47

of it. We have to realize that

48:49

we have been indoctrinating people for decades

48:51

now, and we have conditioned them to

48:53

accept this. They know inside their heart

48:55

they don't want to, but they've made

48:57

it okay, because they've actually had family

48:59

members and others who've been forced in

49:02

the same positions, and this is what

49:04

they chose to do. They do

49:06

carry the burden, and they carry the

49:08

loss. So we need to actually

49:10

help them, and help them make

49:12

decisions that will best benefit their life, the

49:14

future of this country, and the life of

49:16

that child, and put them on better notes,

49:19

offer support, instead of just ending the life

49:21

of a child. Patty, thank you very much. Could

49:23

have been a pre-born commercial. I was gonna say

49:25

that exactly. It sounds like a pre-born commercial. By

49:27

the way, pre-born, this is not a paid commercial,

49:29

but that is exactly what they do, and

49:31

they're doing it all over the country. That's

49:33

one of the reasons we've partnered with them.

49:36

They're a fantastic organization. Phenomenal. That is

49:38

doing almost all of that. And they really care. Yes. And

49:41

they don't just talk the women into

49:43

having, carrying the baby full term. They

49:45

also help afterwards. Up to two years

49:47

after. So the question,

49:50

kind of a difference slightly of what pre-born's doing

49:52

and what Patty's suggesting is she wants the government

49:54

to be a little bit involved, or maybe the

49:56

Republican Party. To be fair,

49:58

to the Republican platform. That is... is

50:00

sort of indicating, indicated

50:03

in the platform. They have language in there that

50:05

says basically to try to come up with some

50:07

way of supporting mothers who are

50:10

in these tough times that have to make

50:12

these tough decisions so that they don't make

50:14

the wrong one. They do sort of refer

50:16

to that in the expanded document a little

50:18

bit. They basically say, no, late

50:20

term abortion and we should support moms after

50:22

birth. Or some, you know, there's some sort

50:24

of language like that. I think

50:26

that's a good idea. I don't know necessarily,

50:29

you know, of course, as a person who likes small government,

50:31

I don't necessarily love all this stuff. I like what Preborn's

50:33

doing better. But that's a

50:35

rational thing. You have to give, do

50:38

everything you can to make these decisions more

50:40

easy for moms. Show them

50:42

the alternatives, like adoption,

50:44

for instance. Yeah, yeah. All

50:48

right, Chris in Indiana. Hi,

50:50

go ahead. Hi, hi, we've been wanting to

50:52

overturn Roe for once, just a few years

50:54

now. Now that it's done

50:57

and the states can make their own laws,

50:59

here comes the pro-life movement wanting to get

51:01

the federal government involved again. I

51:05

think that's a bad strategy. I think that

51:07

provokes the exact opposite of what we want.

51:09

I think it's much more likely to have

51:11

a pro-choice nine

51:14

month bill passing through Congress and

51:16

signed by some president than it is for

51:18

a pro-life bill. And I just

51:20

think it's a bad strategy. I'm

51:23

pro-life, I can't think of anything more sinful or

51:25

ugly than abortion or

51:27

selfish for that matter. But I just think it's

51:29

a bad strategy. Thank you very much. Thank you,

51:32

appreciate that. And I think- Although I'm not

51:34

saying that it shouldn't go to the

51:36

states. It should, I'm just

51:38

saying the Republican platform is

51:41

a statement of beliefs

51:44

and principles, right? Foundational

51:46

beliefs. And it also

51:49

can have policy. I mean, to me,

51:51

the way to get rid of

51:53

abortion in the country legally is

51:55

actually not a national abortion ban.

51:57

It is a constitutional amendment barring.

52:00

the practice. That used to be, by the

52:02

way, put up by

52:04

Republicans all the time. And yes, it would

52:06

fail. But so, keep putting it

52:08

up there until it succeeds. We

52:11

especially us thought Roe v. Wade

52:13

would always be intact, right? We

52:15

never thought the Supreme Court would

52:18

overturn Roe v. Wade, and that

52:20

happened. So maybe one

52:22

day the constitutional amendment could happen. Go

52:24

back to the days where you'd look

52:27

at polling on gay marriage, and

52:29

the left would be like, all right, we want gay marriage.

52:31

And everyone would be like, huh? Gay

52:34

marriage? It's got like 12% support.

52:36

Good luck with that, buddy. Legalizing

52:39

marijuana is another one like that. In

52:42

fact, go back long enough and you'll

52:44

find interracial marriage with 4% support in

52:46

this country, right?

52:49

And obviously, you'd be starting at a much higher

52:52

level for a constitutional

52:54

amendment for abortion. It would be

52:57

really hard. It's supposed to be really hard

52:59

to amend the Constitution, but worthwhile endeavor.

53:02

Endeavor, I think. Absolutely. Kevin,

53:05

in North Carolina. Hi. Yes.

53:09

So where has compromise actually gotten

53:11

the Republicans or the conservatives as

53:13

a movement, being one

53:15

of them? I would

53:17

have thought that we would learn by now that

53:20

they keep moving the marker. The other side keeps

53:22

moving it little by little by little. And

53:25

if you look at the abortion issue

53:27

to begin with, we keep hearing about

53:29

raping incest, raping incest. Well, what percentage

53:31

of abortions are actually related to raping

53:33

incest? It's almost not. It's almost it

53:35

is. Yeah, it's very tiny. Okay. It's

53:37

more about making money. This is a

53:39

business. There's a lot of people that

53:42

make a lot of money off

53:44

baby killing. And I

53:46

just think that it's solid. We shouldn't move on.

53:48

Some people may differ with that. But

53:51

being a father of three young children, my older

53:53

is the oldest to six. To

53:55

me, I don't see any movement on this

53:57

because if you move on this, then you're going to

53:59

move on. on everything else. You're going to move on

54:01

gun rights. You're going to move on all these different

54:03

topics. And that's just how

54:06

I feel about it. I mean, I'm sure you could get 50 different

54:09

opinions, but for me, I think our

54:11

Republicans as a whole, we're weak. And

54:14

it's because we keep bowing

54:16

to this sort of stuff. Like, okay, yeah, we

54:18

won't do that. Oh, you're right. We need

54:20

to back off. Why? Yeah.

54:23

And it's interesting because I think you

54:25

see the leftist

54:27

activists don't bend on this stuff, right? Never.

54:29

They say what they want. Never. They keep

54:32

going for it until they get it and

54:34

they keep going and going and going. That

54:36

being said, Barack Obama ran for president saying

54:39

he was against gay marriage when obviously he

54:41

wasn't. Right? Yeah. So the

54:43

second time he wound up changing that, but in 2008,

54:46

he ran for president and made a

54:48

pragmatic decision, I guess. I mean, I'm trying

54:50

to argue the other side here a little bit, but like,

54:53

you know, if you're thinking about politics, maybe that was

54:55

the right decision. You wind up getting it done. You

54:59

know, so I think you can argue that. To

55:01

me, I would just have liked, I don't

55:03

necessarily think you need to dive into every

55:05

policy that's going to, how you're going to

55:07

do this, you know, what you're going to

55:09

do in each state. What

55:11

I think would have been nice is a

55:13

message of moral clarity, that

55:16

every life deserves a

55:19

chance at living. You know, that is, you

55:21

don't necessarily need to dive into every little

55:23

bit of policy, but it is disconcerting

55:25

that, you know, they're really clear

55:27

about men being in women's sports,

55:29

which look, I'm passionate about. That

55:32

shouldn't happen. Me too. But it's way

55:34

less important than abortion. It's

55:37

not even close. Look, let's be

55:40

honest about it. I didn't care at all about

55:42

women's sports before Caitlin Clark anyway. If

55:44

men dominated all of women's sports, eh, I'd

55:46

probably shrug my shoulders a little bit. The

55:49

only exception if I have a daughter. So

55:51

now I kind of care if this happens

55:53

to her, but women's sports to me, not

55:56

foundational American stuff. And

55:58

I love all I, I. You know again,

56:01

I do actually care about that issue. I

56:03

don't want to blow it off But compare

56:05

it comparing it to a life not being

56:07

able to live Yeah It's

56:09

just not close and that's in the

56:11

platform that we're really morally clear about

56:13

when not being in women's sports That's

56:15

in the platform. We can't be clear

56:18

about abortion. It's amazing. It's

56:20

despicable really it really is because

56:23

you know Yeah,

56:25

there's a big difference there a big

56:27

big difference All right, you got a trophy

56:30

A man got a trophy in a woman's sport. It's

56:33

bad or yeah, it's bad bad It's irritating

56:35

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56:37

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56:39

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58:01

seconds, Station ID. It's

58:13

Pat and Stu for Glenn this week. I think part of

58:15

the problem is that for

58:18

years we were told, hey,

58:21

don't even talk about abortion. Okay?

58:24

This is too controversial. It's too divisive.

58:28

And you're not going to get anywhere with

58:30

anybody anyway. You're not going to convince anybody

58:32

to be pro-life who's not, and you're not

58:34

going to convince anybody to be pro-choice who's

58:36

pro-life. So just don't talk about it. We

58:39

went along with that. And we believed it.

58:41

We were like, yeah, okay. All right. You're

58:43

right. That's probably too divisive. And so

58:46

year after year after year, it got

58:48

worse and worse and

58:51

worse because the left completely

58:53

controlled the discussion. And

58:56

then finally when we jumped in

58:58

and we got a president who

59:02

believed in the cause, at

59:04

least to a certain extent, and

59:07

put in three Supreme Court

59:10

justices who were absolutely pro-life, and he

59:12

kind of was okay with the litmus

59:14

test on that too. The left has

59:16

always been okay with, well, are you

59:18

pro-choice? And for the

59:20

left, if you weren't pro-choice, you couldn't be

59:22

a Supreme Court justice. So

59:24

I think Trump kind of went along with that

59:27

theory just the opposite. And you

59:29

had to have a litmus test that you were pro-life. And

59:32

he did. And it got

59:34

Roe v. Wade overturned. Incredible.

59:36

Incredible success. Something we thought could never happen. And

59:39

it's probably defensible to just say, look, the

59:41

platform doesn't mean that much, and

59:44

Donald Trump has a good record on this topic. Just

59:46

trust him once he gets in office, he'll be

59:48

the same guy. And that's probably true. Right? Like

59:51

he'll probably be pro-life. I

59:53

am concerned that he just seems very nervous about it.

59:56

Yeah. He doesn't seem as strong

59:58

as he does. was when

1:00:00

he ran the first time. Look,

1:00:03

it's risky. I've talked

1:00:05

to a lot of real conservatives who actually

1:00:08

are pro-life people who really care and just

1:00:10

say, look, this is toxic right now politically.

1:00:12

It's a problem. People are losing elections.

1:00:14

Good people who actually are pro-life are losing

1:00:16

elections over this and we just can't make

1:00:18

it the focus this time. Where's our friend

1:00:20

Dan on this? Dan Andros, who is one

1:00:22

of the most pro-life people I know. I

1:00:25

mean, he's definitely on our side. He's the

1:00:27

same. Yeah, he's not saying, yeah, you need

1:00:29

to moderate your position on this. No,

1:00:33

it's just tough to moderate when you're

1:00:35

talking about children's lives. I don't know.

1:00:39

I can understand political calculation and I

1:00:41

think the correct position for a politician

1:00:43

is probably, look, we want

1:00:46

there to be no ... We're pro-life.

1:00:49

We will take each step that we can

1:00:51

take so that fewer children have

1:00:55

their lives expired in this way. Right?

1:00:58

That doesn't mean we're going to get everything right now.

1:01:00

We're not going to get the constitutional amendment that Stu

1:01:02

wants. It's not going to happen. At some point

1:01:04

it might and we should take every bit of ground

1:01:06

we can get as it goes towards that direction. But

1:01:08

right now, what we can probably get is the states

1:01:10

and improve the state laws. That's probably what we can

1:01:12

get right now. It's a rational position. Yeah. Let's

1:01:15

go to Gary in North Carolina. Hey,

1:01:17

Gary, welcome. Hey, just

1:01:20

really quickly, if they pass this and they put that

1:01:22

in there, then the answer is no. It's

1:01:24

a line. I'm not going to call, so I'm not going to vote

1:01:26

for Trump. We'll not vote

1:01:28

for an RNC candidate that supports

1:01:30

that. I just won't.

1:01:32

We keep yielding ground. North

1:01:35

Carolina, both our senators in 2022

1:01:37

voted for the Save the

1:01:39

Marriage Act. And so, my senators

1:01:42

are getting progressively more left

1:01:44

than conservatives. And I'm just, I'm

1:01:47

tired of the, yeah, we'll put you in,

1:01:49

you'll change. And then you just drift to

1:01:51

the left instead of stand firm on issues

1:01:53

that are very clear. And so, if they

1:01:55

cross this line on abortion, then

1:01:58

no, I won't vote for them. It's

1:02:00

interesting. Thank you to Gary for the call. Even if you listen

1:02:02

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1:02:04

vote for Donald Trump. Like this is going to be terrible. Like

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the party needs to hear those voices. Those

1:02:10

people do exist. And, you know,

1:02:12

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1:02:14

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1:02:17

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1:02:21

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if you do that. Yeah.

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I mean, the RU-486 thing,

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maybe that's the biggest issue for me because

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we've been talking about the Republican

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platform and how it

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barely mentions anything

1:09:16

about abortion. So a

1:09:19

little strange. And

1:09:21

are you okay with it? Are you

1:09:23

okay with compromise on this particular issue? Let's go

1:09:25

to William in Kentucky. Hey, William. Hey,

1:09:29

how are you guys today? Good. First

1:09:32

time caller. Thanks for doing it. We appreciate

1:09:34

it. But I am

1:09:36

perfectly okay with the new platform.

1:09:39

Okay. I am, just

1:09:42

to let you know, I'm agnostic. So

1:09:45

I'm kind of a struggle of fence

1:09:47

on where life begins.

1:09:49

I know you guys believe,

1:09:52

I'm assuming you believe life begins

1:09:55

at a conception. And

1:09:58

I'm not there. Yeah. I

1:10:00

have no idea when life begins and

1:10:04

I am perfectly okay with compromising

1:10:07

to an extent. Late-term abortion,

1:10:09

I absolutely oppose, but

1:10:13

I think first trimester abortion is perfectly

1:10:17

reasonable. Not

1:10:20

me personally, I am pro-life. I would

1:10:23

never want any of my children to

1:10:25

have an abortion. I

1:10:27

would not do it. If anyone came to

1:10:29

me and asked me about it, I would give

1:10:31

them the pro-life spiel.

1:10:35

But I don't... Yeah,

1:10:37

I can tell you feel strongly about it. The

1:10:39

spiel. When you go into the spiel

1:10:41

of pro-life spiel. Okay,

1:10:45

so you wouldn't err on the side of

1:10:48

caution then necessarily, William?

1:10:51

I lean more towards the woman's right

1:10:53

to choose. Because I believe if there

1:10:56

is a God, if there

1:10:58

is a God and life begins that

1:11:00

conception and hits a sin against God,

1:11:03

I feel God will sort it out at

1:11:05

the end. Well, God can sort out late-term

1:11:07

abortions too and also murders when you're 45

1:11:09

years old, right? I mean, God's going to

1:11:11

sort all that out. You don't really have a choice on that stuff. No,

1:11:15

it's interesting because I think it's... To

1:11:19

me, it's pretty clear, but a

1:11:21

lot of people have these issues of figuring these lines

1:11:23

out. Just appeal to your sense

1:11:25

of, there's a lot of things I don't know, a

1:11:27

lot of things that I'm not an expert

1:11:29

in. And

1:11:31

when I have the opportunity to err on

1:11:33

the side of life, if I'm

1:11:36

admitting I'm not sure, like if

1:11:38

I don't know where that line is, why would

1:11:40

I make the line later? I

1:11:42

would think you'd want to protect life.

1:11:44

And I think if we think about this in a

1:11:46

way of just doing

1:11:49

what we can to consider the

1:11:51

person who we all know will

1:11:53

be a person, right? This is not like it's not like

1:11:55

it's not going to be a fern. This

1:11:58

is eventually going to be a human being. If we can

1:12:00

kind of think about what this is, because

1:12:02

I don't, I will say,

1:12:04

William, and I really seriously, legitimately appreciate

1:12:06

your call in explaining this, because you

1:12:09

are probably the majority. I think the majority

1:12:11

does support first term abortion. Second and third

1:12:13

term, it's not even close. Overwhelmingly

1:12:15

Americans oppose it. First term is

1:12:17

not that way. And I think it's

1:12:19

because, yeah, I don't know, you don't see the picture really on

1:12:22

the ultrasound. It doesn't really

1:12:24

look like a baby yet and all that, but

1:12:27

you do know- And the woman's right to

1:12:29

choose thing has been really compelling to people.

1:12:32

Well, okay, yeah. And I

1:12:34

agree, you should choose on your own body. But

1:12:36

there's another body at stake here. And

1:12:39

that's the one inside of you that's a

1:12:41

separate body with separate DNA and separate

1:12:44

limbs and eyes and ears and a

1:12:46

brain and a heart and

1:12:48

all these things that matter. If

1:12:51

you're saying only the woman can

1:12:54

choose and it's between her and her

1:12:56

doctor, well, you're

1:12:59

just completely discounting the other body

1:13:01

inside, right? And to

1:13:03

me, that is so wrong.

1:13:06

We lost William there, but I think it

1:13:08

comes down to if you're going to

1:13:11

have a middling position on this, right? You

1:13:13

have to pick a day. You have

1:13:16

to pick a moment. You have to pick a second where

1:13:19

this turns from something that's totally

1:13:21

fine into a crime, right? It

1:13:23

turns from something that

1:13:25

is just a

1:13:27

clump of cells into

1:13:30

a human body that the life is ending.

1:13:33

If you're like a person that says, okay,

1:13:35

that's seven months, whatever it is, well, why

1:13:37

isn't it six months and 30 days? Why

1:13:40

isn't it, you're going to

1:13:43

have to give me, you're going to

1:13:45

have to draw a second where that

1:13:47

clock ticks and that turns from nothing

1:13:50

into a life. That decision's

1:13:52

really easy when you make it at conception. It's

1:13:55

not easy and to be

1:13:58

frank, doesn't make any sense. to put

1:14:00

that at three months or

1:14:02

four months or 15 weeks or

1:14:05

six weeks. Like- A

1:14:07

lot of people now put it at 21 weeks because

1:14:09

that seems to be when the fetus

1:14:11

is viable. That's that was- When the baby can survive

1:14:14

outside the womb. Today it is, right? It was 24,

1:14:16

25, 26 weeks when they did reverse this way. Right,

1:14:19

it could be 15 each next year. Exactly.

1:14:22

We don't know. And at the end of

1:14:24

the day, it doesn't make any sense to

1:14:26

make that determination because

1:14:29

what you're doing is, I mean, I thought

1:14:31

about this with, what was the guy in

1:14:33

Philly? The guy who went to prison, abortionist.

1:14:36

Yeah, Grover. Wasn't

1:14:39

it? Yeah. What was his name? I look

1:14:41

that up, I'm all figured out. I can't remember his name off the top of

1:14:43

my head. It should be one that's in the, and I

1:14:46

could feel Abby Johnson, who's incredible on the

1:14:48

life issue, yelling the name at the radio

1:14:50

right now. So I apologize for not remembering

1:14:53

this monster's name. Luckily, he's no longer in

1:14:55

our lives. He's been put away for a

1:14:57

very long time. But

1:15:01

what's fascinating about his story

1:15:04

was many of the abortions he- Kermit Gosnell.

1:15:06

Kermit, I knew it was a weird name.

1:15:08

Kermit Gosnell. I had the

1:15:10

wrong Sesame Street character. I went Grover.

1:15:13

I took her over. I took her

1:15:15

over. No, it was Kermit. And I

1:15:17

almost blamed Grover Norquist for this. He

1:15:19

is not guilty of these crimes. It

1:15:23

is Kermit Gosnell. And what's

1:15:25

fascinating about that, a lot of people are like, gosh, that

1:15:27

was the worst thing I've ever seen. This

1:15:30

man was taking babies and killing

1:15:32

them late-term, ripping them out and

1:15:34

ending their lives. Many

1:15:37

of the abortions that

1:15:39

he committed, the murders he committed, happened

1:15:41

a week after the deadline.

1:15:45

Meaning if he had done this stuff a week

1:15:47

earlier, he's not in prison. Just perfectly fine. He's

1:15:49

at a country club with a Porsche. Yeah. Right?

1:15:53

What kind, what sane

1:15:56

society would do this?

1:15:59

Throw a guy in jail. jail for 50 years

1:16:01

for a two or three day time

1:16:03

period where he does the exact same

1:16:05

thing, that makes no

1:16:07

sense at all. And

1:16:09

I think the problem here when

1:16:11

you're talking about this, at

1:16:13

some level government has to make these sort of indiscriminate

1:16:16

lines, but morally we

1:16:18

certainly don't have to make them. And

1:16:21

look, it's just not about choice. To

1:16:24

put this last, and we have a million

1:16:27

calls on this, we'll get to them here in a second. It's

1:16:29

not about women's choice. This is not a women's choice

1:16:31

issue in any way. Because frankly,

1:16:33

if you talk to any, if God came

1:16:35

down today and came on the air and

1:16:37

just came into this third chair we have

1:16:39

here, was like, hello, parents too. And

1:16:42

said, by the way, I really appreciate all the

1:16:44

stuff you say about abortion, but actually I don't

1:16:46

care. It's not a big deal to me. If

1:16:49

until they come out of that birth canal, basically

1:16:51

it means nothing to me. So

1:16:53

I appreciate where you guys have been, but honestly, you

1:16:56

don't have to care about that other life anymore because

1:16:58

it's not life. Let's just say it happened. It's not

1:17:00

going to happen. Let's just say it happened. If it

1:17:02

happened, none of us would care.

1:17:05

You could go ahead, abort, abort, abort,

1:17:07

abort, abort. If it's not life, I

1:17:10

don't care if you abort it. Secondarily,

1:17:12

if it is life, if God came down to

1:17:14

liberals and said this, whatever their God is, came

1:17:16

down to liberals and said, hey. Well,

1:17:18

it'd be Gaia. It is. Gaia would come

1:17:21

down. Gaia comes down and says, hey liberals.

1:17:25

I know what you've been saying about the whole,

1:17:27

hey, you can kill children in the womb thing,

1:17:29

but wow, that really matters to me. You can't.

1:17:31

That's real life in there. In theory,

1:17:33

you would assume every liberal would say, holy crap,

1:17:36

it is murder. Well,

1:17:38

then of course we don't want it to happen. The

1:17:40

point is only about the life

1:17:43

in the womb. It is not

1:17:45

about women's choice at all. The

1:17:48

woman going through this is incredibly

1:17:50

important and it's why you have ...

1:17:52

We talk about supporting them after the birth. We

1:17:54

talk about helping them through these

1:17:56

decisions. It is incredibly important and

1:17:58

not easy. You know, God forbid you go

1:18:00

through one of these terrible scenarios that ends in a pregnancy, not

1:18:03

easy at all. At the end of

1:18:05

the day, it's about the decision is made

1:18:07

about the life. Conservatives,

1:18:10

if it was just removing a few cells, a clump of

1:18:12

cells that we did not think was life, we

1:18:14

wouldn't care. No conservatives like, I

1:18:17

oppose women's rights to remove tumors. Like

1:18:20

there's no conservative with that position because

1:18:22

it's not about women's choice, it's about

1:18:24

the other life. Right. Exactly

1:18:26

right. All right. Let's go.

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1:20:00

Kent in Utah. Hey Kent, you're

1:20:02

on the Glenn Beck program with Patten Stu. Thank

1:20:05

you. Happy to be here. I

1:20:08

wanted to let you know, from my

1:20:10

position on abortion is I am wholly

1:20:12

against it. I think

1:20:15

it's, as you guys have

1:20:17

described, I think it's murder, but I think it's

1:20:19

the sin of our generation. That

1:20:21

being said, as

1:20:24

we've listened to the discussion today,

1:20:26

it reminds me of

1:20:29

the negotiations that the delegates had

1:20:31

during the signing of the Declaration

1:20:33

of Independence, where there was

1:20:35

a paragraph in there about

1:20:37

slavery. And as the

1:20:39

days became, as it became

1:20:42

time to approve or not the Declaration

1:20:44

of Independence, John Adams,

1:20:46

I believe, was vehemently against removing

1:20:49

the paragraph, but if he had not done

1:20:51

so, it would never have

1:20:53

been approved. Well, it wouldn't have been

1:20:55

approved unanimously. That's true. There were two

1:20:57

states opposing it. Which

1:20:59

was required to have it passed. And

1:21:02

so the step the

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men took, I believe, was to

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concede their values in some

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way against slavery, to get

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the independence first, and then... Yes, and then

1:21:14

fight that battle later, which they did with

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the death of 700,000 Americans.

1:21:19

I don't know if I would necessarily put

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that on my top of

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my resume for decisions all the

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time. I didn't necessarily turn up.

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in 2016. which obviously turned

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out pretty well for pro-life causes. Mm-hmm. So,

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1:25:17

Biden to step down as the nominee

1:25:19

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1:25:21

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1:25:28

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1:25:32

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1:25:36

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you a very suspicious announcement from

1:25:40

Nancy Pelosi earlier on the program

1:25:42

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1:25:45

chance listen this is bizarre because

1:25:47

Joe Biden came out and has

1:25:49

been saying all week I'm

1:25:51

not going anywhere now almost it'll be two weeks

1:25:53

tomorrow yeah he's been saying it the whole time

1:25:55

yep over and over and over and over again

1:25:58

and starting Monday really put the full before court

1:26:00

pressed on this. I'm releasing a letter. I am

1:26:02

staying in every speech. I am staying in. And

1:26:05

we have not heard much from Nancy Pelosi

1:26:07

on this topic. We finally did hear from

1:26:10

her on MSNBC today, specifically

1:26:12

challenged on what she thinks should happen.

1:26:14

Here's what she said. Does he have

1:26:16

your support to be the head of

1:26:18

the Democratic ticket? As long as the

1:26:20

president has the president, it's up to the

1:26:22

president to subside if he is going to

1:26:24

run. We're all encouraging him

1:26:27

to make that decision because

1:26:30

time is running short. I

1:26:34

think overwhelming support of the caucus, it's not

1:26:36

for me to say. I'm not the head

1:26:39

of the caucus anymore. But he's

1:26:42

beloved. He is

1:26:44

respected. Is he? And people want

1:26:46

him to make that decision. Yes, he

1:26:48

has said he has made the decision. He

1:26:50

has said firmly this week, he is going

1:26:52

to run. Do you want him to run?

1:26:55

I want him to do whatever he decides

1:26:58

to do. And that's the way it is.

1:27:00

Whatever he decides, we go with. Well,

1:27:02

yeah, he already said he decided. That's

1:27:05

amazing. It is amazing. You

1:27:07

can't take a side on

1:27:09

that? You have to. It's

1:27:11

so awkward and so intentional.

1:27:14

She is cold as ice. Cold

1:27:18

as ice, man. Man, she is a

1:27:20

machine. Even in her age that she

1:27:22

can't say decide anymore, she's

1:27:24

still a cold-blooded political machine. It's up to

1:27:27

the president to subside. To

1:27:30

subside. It really is up to

1:27:32

the president to subside. Now, George Clooney does not even address

1:27:38

what Nancy Pelosi said. The subsiding

1:27:40

of the president. No. But

1:27:43

we have seen another major official

1:27:46

come out as well of TMZ kind

1:27:48

of cornered George Stephanopoulos. This is after

1:27:52

the interview and everything and

1:27:54

asked him, hey, like, what do you think about? And

1:27:56

it's amazing that he would think this is a bad thing. I don't think he would. I

1:28:00

think Stephanopoulos knew he was being recorded,

1:28:02

but I mean, how do you not know? You're

1:28:05

a big time news anchor. You're

1:28:08

supposedly a journalist. You got

1:28:10

to be careful with that stuff, right? But he wasn't. Now,

1:28:13

it was the question was, do you think Biden

1:28:15

should step down? You've talked to him more than

1:28:17

anybody else has lately. And George's response was, quote,

1:28:19

I don't think he can serve four more years.

1:28:21

Now, he's apologized for that. Why would

1:28:24

you apologize for your opinion on that? Or

1:28:26

he's apologized for telling the truth. The first

1:28:28

time he's ever done it, so now he's

1:28:30

very nervous. He's lost his

1:28:32

entire character of lying, and he's telling

1:28:34

the truth. It's a fascinating

1:28:36

thing because you know who else knows that he won't serve

1:28:38

four more years? All humans. Yeah.

1:28:43

All human beings know this is

1:28:46

not possible. He's not going to

1:28:48

make it to 87 years old in the White House.

1:28:50

That's not going to occur. George

1:28:53

Clooney is out, Pat, and he

1:28:56

says this, a new headline, Op-Ed for

1:28:58

The New York Times, which has really

1:29:00

been leading the charge on this stuff

1:29:02

from the beginning. Interestingly. Uh-huh.

1:29:04

He says, I love Joe Biden, but we

1:29:06

need a new nominee by

1:29:09

George Clooney. Holy cow. Now,

1:29:11

you might say, okay, again, George

1:29:14

Clooney is a very prominent actor. Huge

1:29:16

fundraiser, though, for the Democratic Party. That's

1:29:19

the important thing here. They just held

1:29:21

a massive fundraiser for him that I

1:29:23

think they took in the most money

1:29:25

in a single night ever. He mentions

1:29:27

this, yeah. Last month, I co-hosted the

1:29:29

single largest fundraiser supporting any Democratic candidate

1:29:32

ever, a month ago. Jeez.

1:29:35

For President Biden's reelection. Yeah, it was like 30 million

1:29:37

in one night. He says, I

1:29:39

love Joe Biden as a senator, as a vice

1:29:41

president, and a president. I consider him a friend.

1:29:43

I believe in him, believe in his character, believe

1:29:45

in his morals. Uh-huh. It's

1:29:47

just incredible. Yeah. The

1:29:50

last four years, he's won, I mean, the guy did

1:29:52

have a tequila company. Maybe he's drunk writing this. I

1:29:55

believe in his morals. In the

1:29:57

last four years, he's won many of the battles

1:29:59

he's faced. But the one battle

1:30:01

he cannot win is

1:30:03

the fight against time. Wow, that

1:30:05

was beautiful. Beautifully put. None of

1:30:08

us can, Pat. Okay. It's devastating to

1:30:10

say it, but the Joe Biden, I

1:30:12

was with three- Devastating. I'm

1:30:14

devastated. I'm devastated. Yeah. The Biden I

1:30:17

was with three weeks ago at the

1:30:19

fundraiser was not the Joe big effing

1:30:21

deal Biden of 2010. He

1:30:24

wasn't even the Joe Biden of 2020. He's

1:30:28

admitting that he noticed the decline when

1:30:30

he was with him. Before the debate.

1:30:33

Oh my gosh. That's interesting

1:30:35

to me. This is an interesting nugget. You

1:30:37

raised $30 million for the guy. And now,

1:30:40

only now, a month later, we're

1:30:42

hearing that he wasn't in good shape. Can

1:30:45

you imagine being one of these donors? You

1:30:47

just got bilked out of

1:30:49

$30 million. And

1:30:51

they're just like, oh yeah, by the way, we knew the

1:30:53

whole time he had no chance of being president. Listen

1:30:57

to the way he phrases this. It's devastating to say

1:30:59

it, but the Joe Biden, I was with three weeks

1:31:01

ago at the fundraiser, was not the Joe big effing

1:31:03

deal Biden of 2010. He wasn't even the Joe Biden

1:31:05

of 2020. He was the

1:31:07

same man we all witnessed at the

1:31:09

debate. That's

1:31:13

huge. Huge. So it was

1:31:15

not a one-time thing. He

1:31:18

is saying- Which

1:31:20

will, though. But of course. I mean, this is silly.

1:31:22

But come on. But he's admitting it. He's admitting that he saw it.

1:31:25

He goes on and he says, was he tired? Yes.

1:31:28

A cold? Maybe. But

1:31:30

our party leaders need to stop

1:31:33

telling us that 51 million people

1:31:35

didn't see what we just saw.

1:31:38

And that, I mean, what a reinforcement

1:31:41

that a guy who's this big

1:31:43

an ally of Joe Biden, enough

1:31:45

to hold this fundraiser and

1:31:48

talk all of his Hollywood big

1:31:50

shot friends into donating up to

1:31:52

$30 million. That's

1:31:55

not a piece, but collectively. That's a lot of

1:31:57

money. That's a lot of money. I mean, if

1:31:59

you- ever done a fundraiser, you

1:32:01

know they're not easy, you know? Even

1:32:04

for great causes, let alone crappy

1:32:06

causes like this one. Yeah. So,

1:32:09

30 million dollars is

1:32:11

raised and you've got this guy

1:32:13

who raised it saying, yeah, he's

1:32:15

bad, he's in bad shape, yeah,

1:32:18

he can't continue. This is

1:32:20

not the same dude that

1:32:22

people think they

1:32:25

voted for in 2020. That's incredible.

1:32:27

That's huge to me. Wow. And

1:32:30

I think, look, the Clooney thing is big. That

1:32:33

Pelosi clip is massive. Yeah. Because this

1:32:37

is someone in leadership basically saying, hey

1:32:39

Joe, what was your

1:32:41

answer on that? You should think about

1:32:43

it again and answer again. Well, that's

1:32:45

what she's saying without saying it. Right.

1:32:47

She's saying, you're wrong, Joe. Think about

1:32:50

it again. Because it's not like she

1:32:52

didn't hear him say it. She knows he

1:32:54

said it. Right. And the

1:32:57

host states it right back to her face. She

1:33:00

is basically telling, that's basically

1:33:02

her saying publicly, step down.

1:33:05

And to the point where she's so

1:33:07

old and also can't speak, she says

1:33:09

he has to subside whether he's going

1:33:12

to step down. She's incoherent too. It's

1:33:14

up to the president to subside. It

1:33:18

is. It's a combination,

1:33:20

I think, of secede and

1:33:23

decide. And decide, I think. Perhaps. Or

1:33:25

it's just a drunk slur. Is it

1:33:27

step aside and secede? You're giving her

1:33:29

too much credit. I think she's just

1:33:31

hammered. But I

1:33:34

will say that that's significant. And

1:33:36

if I am Joe Biden, I

1:33:39

don't care

1:33:42

what George Clooney says or what Nancy

1:33:44

Pelosi says. My nomination. I

1:33:46

probably care more about what George Clooney

1:33:49

says than Nancy Pelosi. Because he's the

1:33:51

big fundraiser. Nancy Pelosi is not doing

1:33:53

squat for you. I would just get

1:33:55

angry at Pelosi. Right? Like screw you.

1:33:57

You're a hundred years old too. Right.

1:34:00

I mean, is she older than him? I want to say she's older

1:34:02

than him. Am I wrong about that? No, I think she is. I

1:34:05

think she is. Is she 83? I

1:34:07

want to say she's 83. Now,

1:34:09

she did step down from leadership. She's 84. Wow.

1:34:13

She did step down. I mean, she's older

1:34:15

than Mitch McConnell, Joe Biden, and Donald Trump

1:34:17

by significant margins. She

1:34:20

did step down from leadership, but not because she said

1:34:22

she was incapable of doing the

1:34:24

job, and she kept the seat. She

1:34:27

has nothing to speak for. I mean, it's

1:34:29

insanity that she's doing this. Now,

1:34:31

part of this is because I really want Joe Biden to

1:34:34

remain the nominee, and that's probably somewhat

1:34:36

revealing to Democrats

1:34:38

who might be listening as to what they

1:34:40

should do, right? If

1:34:43

Pat and Stu are saying, I think

1:34:46

Joe Biden should remain the nominee, you probably don't

1:34:48

want him as the nominee. I know if I

1:34:50

were a Democrat, I would have been arguing years

1:34:52

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1:34:55

guy. No way. We lucked out in 2020.

1:34:57

Somehow we're here.

1:35:00

I don't want Kamala Harris either. I want

1:35:03

a real freaking primary. Make

1:35:06

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1:35:08

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1:35:10

he wins, he wins, but I

1:35:12

don't want him. He should step

1:35:14

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1:35:17

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1:35:21

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1:35:24

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1:35:26

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1:35:28

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1:35:31

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And living the kind of life that it's going to take

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to change the climate. How much money we talking about here?

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I'd like chicken feed, like 190 to 100 million, or

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I'm sorry, trillion.

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Wait, trillion? Maybe quadrillion. Okay,

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now it's probably quadrillion. Wait,

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I need a million, trillion, thousand

1:39:33

dollars to do it. Okay. A

1:39:36

thousand trillion million billion

1:39:39

to do this. And look,

1:39:44

let me put it this way. And

1:39:52

I really mean that. Did you beat Medicare? I

1:39:55

beat Medicare. I did beat Medicare. Thank

1:39:57

you for the reminder, Dan. one

1:40:00

more question while we're on that topic. Cause you know, you're

1:40:02

asking for a hundred trillion. Can I just ask you about

1:40:04

million billion? Can I ask you about $230 million for a

1:40:06

second? Okay. That

1:40:08

was the cost of the pier you built.

1:40:11

The piazza. And

1:40:13

it didn't do

1:40:15

anything. And now

1:40:17

they're deconstructing it because it

1:40:19

failed completely. Love that story

1:40:22

by the way. I will say it might

1:40:24

be my favorite story. It is

1:40:27

every Joe Biden policy in

1:40:30

a nutshell. It starts off with

1:40:32

these big expectations, these incredible warm

1:40:34

feelings for all the good it's

1:40:36

going to do. We're altruistic. Yeah.

1:40:39

We're actually going to feed the people

1:40:41

that we're eliminating

1:40:43

as well on the side. But

1:40:46

I mean, America does that, right?

1:40:48

We dropped food

1:40:50

to the Afghans. Cause the theory obviously is

1:40:52

that we're just, we're fighting against the government,

1:40:54

not the people. So we're trying to feed

1:40:56

the people. And they're doing that

1:40:58

again here. But everybody

1:41:01

said, look, Hamas

1:41:03

doesn't want this. You're

1:41:05

going to be attacked while you're building it. And they were.

1:41:08

And they were. But I think this

1:41:10

is so reminiscent of all of their policies.

1:41:12

You got the supposed feel good intentions. You

1:41:15

got the gushingly positive media attention, highlighting all

1:41:17

the caring reasons we're doing this. You've

1:41:19

got the sort of legalistic rule bending they do on

1:41:21

all this stuff. This one was,

1:41:24

we don't have any troops on the ground.

1:41:27

We've got troops on a

1:41:29

pier 20 feet from the

1:41:31

ground. That's not real. The

1:41:33

back flips they had to do to make that work. So

1:41:37

ridiculous. It never had a realistic possibility

1:41:39

of solving the problem. It

1:41:42

was massively expensive. It was

1:41:44

massively over budget. Of

1:41:46

course, the result of it, we

1:41:48

immediately knew it was doing

1:41:51

less good than was promised. And

1:41:53

sure enough, Hamas didn't allow it.

1:41:55

And Hamas stole a lot of

1:41:58

this. We were actually helping. terrorists

1:42:00

with it. The peer literally

1:42:03

crumbled into pieces just like all of

1:42:05

his other policies. And,

1:42:08

of course, the failure of the

1:42:10

idea never really gets acknowledged. We don't

1:42:12

really have a conversation as to why we

1:42:15

allowed this to happen in the first place.

1:42:17

I will say I don't ever remember a

1:42:19

bill being passed to fund $230 million. They

1:42:21

just redirected it from

1:42:24

other sources. But like, at some point,

1:42:26

shouldn't they be held responsible for this

1:42:28

massive failure? No,

1:42:31

because nobody ever is. Nobody

1:42:34

ever is. It's like they just built a

1:42:36

building and it fell over. I know. Like,

1:42:38

wouldn't the construction company get some blame for

1:42:40

that? You would think. You'd think. But no,

1:42:42

here, we're all going to just... They built

1:42:44

a giant metal Lego set in the sea

1:42:46

that got rolled over the first

1:42:48

time a wave came by and we're all like,

1:42:50

gosh, there's a surprise. Well, he really meant well.

1:42:54

Sure, he took $230 million. Think

1:42:56

about that amount, Pat. Like, all

1:42:59

of the money you will ever pay

1:43:01

in taxes your entire life went to

1:43:03

fund one half of one of the

1:43:05

Lego pieces to build that pier that

1:43:09

ended up in the ocean that did

1:43:11

nothing for anybody. We've been so desensitized to

1:43:14

the money that the government spends though. People

1:43:16

think, $230 million is not bad. It is

1:43:20

really true. People don't even acknowledge

1:43:22

it. Nope. I mean, I think it could

1:43:24

be $230 billion and people

1:43:26

might not be necessarily moved. Yep.

1:43:30

It takes over a trillion dollars now to

1:43:32

get us to even pay attention. And that's

1:43:35

how we wound up in the situation we're in. Speaking

1:43:39

of what's going on in the Middle

1:43:41

East, did you see Kamala Harris's response

1:43:43

to the anti-Israeli

1:43:46

protesters? She

1:43:48

was asked about, I guess,

1:43:50

their motives and things. And what

1:43:52

she had to say was they're showing

1:43:55

exactly what the human emotion should be.

1:43:59

Wait, huh? What? What does that

1:44:01

even mean? Showing exactly what the human

1:44:03

emotion should be? Is the human

1:44:05

emotion that we should all hate Israel or

1:44:07

Jews? Or what are you talking about? Mmm.

1:44:11

Just bizarre. And these are the people

1:44:14

leading the way. And you

1:44:16

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