Vox's Anna North talks with author Olivia Laing about her book Everybody: A Book About Freedom. Through the surprisingly connected lives of artists, activists, psychoanalysts, and sexologists, they discuss the different ways our bodies are persecuted, imprisoned, and policed — and the ways our physical selves can be liberated.

Host: Anna North (@annanorthtweets), Senior Reporter, VoxGuest: Olivia Laing, AuthorReferences: 

Everybody: A Book About Freedom (Picador, 2021)

The Lonely City (Picador, 2017)

“Wilhelm Reich: the man who invented free love” by Christopher Turner (The Guardian, July 8, 2011)

Susan Sontag, Illness as Metaphor (1978)

“Overlooked No More: Ana Mendieta, a Cuban Artist Who Pushed Boundaries” by Monica Castillo (New York Times, Sept. 19, 2018)

Agnes Martin, 1912–2004 (MoMA)

Philip Guston, 1913–1980 (MoMA)

“Cloudbusting” by Kate Bush (1985), music video dir. by Julian Doyle

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