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Shine, is he in process when it
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comes to getting the ninth caller?
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He sure is, Greg. I'm gonna
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do that all week, because I have a
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pair of tickets I could give away every single
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day. So just a heads up, if
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you listen to the show on the reg, whenever
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you hear Shine...
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come back from a commercial, rejoin
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with an ACDC song this week.
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Just be the ninth caller, and
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I will get you tickets for Gillette
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Stadium. That's pretty big right there. ACDC. Seems
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like Gillette, I don't know, maybe it's
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just my interest. They have, they have a
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lot of good concerts this summer. Fenway
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Park, not really that exciting to me.
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Fenway Park's got Chris Brown. That's a good
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one. What I just said, not that
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exciting. Forever by Chris Brown is an all
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-time banger. Is the Post Malone show, is that
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it? Fenway or is that Gillette? Oh, OK. Yeah, I want
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to go to that one. Kendrick Lamar is at
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Gillette too, right? Yeah, so
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not too many that are
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of interest to me. This
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is Mike from Florida.
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Hello, Mike. Hey
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guys, how are we doing? Happy Monday. Yeah, what's
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up? What are you calling about? I
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know it was something that you guys
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were talking about a little earlier with
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Shador, but I wanted to kind of
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throw my my thoughts in again, you
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know, just when Wiggy was talking about,
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you know, maybe the NFL doesn't understand
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the culture and then, you know, the
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people that are obviously the people that
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are hating on him, like and having
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like enjoying it and enjoying the prank
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phone call. Those are just, you know,
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the typical troll type, you know morons
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that exist in the society we live
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in. You know, he's going
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to have to deal with that for the rest of his life, no matter
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what. But in regards to the
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culture thing, you make a,
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you know, a good argument because
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obviously the NHL is run by, you
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know, mostly old white dudes, and
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they don't understand it. And that's normal.
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It's okay. They don't understand it because it's
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not their culture. But, you
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know, that culture argument gets made. And
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I don't always like it in
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other scenarios where you've got somebody
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that's from the South. and
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maybe they've got a picture on their
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instagram and they've got a confederate
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flag in the background and the people
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from the south will say well
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that's our culture and other people say
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well that's racist well then they'll
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say well no it's not it's it's
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our heritage and we're just proud
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of our heritage and it's our culture
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so regardless of whether it's culture
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or whatever it is it's the way that
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the league perceives things like that and
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that's not going to change. It has nothing
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to do with hatred. It just has
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to do with, okay, we're picking all the
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variables from Shendor Sanders and saying, okay, here's
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the talent. Here's all these
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other things. Are all these other things?
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is the talent worth all these other things
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that you have to deal with, you know, and
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they're not gonna, they're not gonna side with
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a guy that has all the other things that
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you guys talked about earlier in the show. Yeah,
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I think Wiggy, you know, hit
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the nail on the head this morning
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when it comes to talent. I
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think that they didn't see the talent
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there. And then you have to,
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all this other stuff comes along. And
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it would go the other way
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too. Like, let's say for example, Uh,
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who was that they believe
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was Quinn yours, right? He dropped
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precipitously, right, right? But let's
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say Quinn yours was in a
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similar situation as should or
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Sanders and had Confederate flags draped
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all through his crib next
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to bore heads and dead heads
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and moose heads like there
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would be owners that would and
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people in the football world
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That would look at that and
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go In a second there's
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a little This is a
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little, this is different, even though he
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might believe it's his culture. And
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granted, the two cultures are different.
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One's hip -hop music and rap culture
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that is just music based on people's
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environment and how they grew up.
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I would really hope that nobody now
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with the age of 20 has
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a Confederate flag. Right, where the Confederate
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flag needs something completely different. Yeah,
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so it's like the culture of what,
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when I say that, because I've
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been around and I know how
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like, coaches and GM's and Courtney
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and I were talking about it.
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Like they did it with Cam
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Newton. Cam Newton's pre draft interview
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with the owner at the time,
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Jerry Richardson asked them, you got
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any tattoos of persons and Cam
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was like, no. And he said,
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keep it that way. So it's
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like even people with tattoos, like
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they're, they're, if you don't understand
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that culture of where that person's
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from, you can kind of start
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relating the negative part of it
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with the person who just enjoys
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the music or might be from
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there. But can't you just, if
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you're an NFL executive, can't you
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look at Shador Sanders and say, the
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talent, I don't believe the talent is
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going to translate. Right. And
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he's kind of a dink.
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Like, and it can have
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nothing to do with his
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culture. It has to do
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with his character. But yeah, but you can
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say that to a certain extent, which
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would, like Shyam said, drop him out of
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the first round and maybe into the
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second round or the top of the third
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round. But when you have guys going
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in the second and third round like Dylan
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Gabriel or the kid from Louisville. I
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mean Ryan Leaf was as big of an
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a -hole as could ever exist and he
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went second. Right. But he didn't have
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like he didn't have the the baggage of
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his father like I think that that.
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No he had a baggage of drug abuse.
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Yeah but what's the doubt? The way
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they knew that Curtis. Well but I mean
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he didn't interview well because he was
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I mean he was a total disaster in
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that process. Yeah but but they like.
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What's the baggage of Dion? So he just
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put his he just retired his kids
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number when he was 500 as a quarterback
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less than 500. All right. Like I
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like you know that he's going to be
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involved in the whole entire process when
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it comes to the whatever team his kid
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is on full -time employee of Colorado. He's
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catching his own team. You don't think
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he's going to start interfering and saying things
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if If he doesn't feel like the
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team is treating his son right what he's
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gonna be talking about it publicly the
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whole entire time The fan base the fan
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base of whatever team he's drafted is
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not gonna side with Dion. They're gonna call
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him an a -hole What's what's the mannings
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were drafted Arch Manning disappears like that's
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kind of how it works Manning is nowhere
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near the same as neon Dion Sanders
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They put their kids in a position where
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they get drafted high because that's what
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they want to do They want to help
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their kids succeed and then what's the
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NFL? It's up to them whether they Float
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or drown along the way of making
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sure that your son succeeds You need to
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teach him how to how to be
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humble to an extent like that's the issue
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that I have It's it's the way
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in which he talks about who he is,
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right? And I think that there is
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a difference between being confident and cocky and
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he's coming off extremely cocky there are
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other people like Baker Mayfield was one of
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the cockiest players out there. So is
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how that played out Johnny man. a success
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And if you want to like five
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different code If you want a new character,
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what about Eli's older brother Peyton? Look
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at what he did with the freaking trainer
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in Tennessee And Johnny Manziel is another
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one who had a bunch of characteristics and
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he went first round And it was
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an absolute failure, but but we're not talking
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about whether or not it was a
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success or a failure We're talking about those
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guys still went first round like there
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Yeah, and now it's years later and these
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teams are looking and saying we've had
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headaches in the past. Some people have not
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panned out. So maybe we need to
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take a better look at who this person
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is and the way they conduct themselves. They
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went Zach Wilson number two overall
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a couple years ago. So
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he had issues. What did he do? All he
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did was smash one of his mother's friends. Like what's
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wrong with that? But like Shadr doesn't even have
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any off -field issues. He just cocked
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it. That's literally it. But we're not saying
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he has any off -field issues. We're saying that
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the way in which he conducts himself is
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off -putting, I'm sure, to an owner who
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wants, who is going to spend millions and
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millions of dollars on this person being their
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future. If he's going into interviews with his
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headphones in, if he's not showing up to
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inter - views. If he's telling teens he's better
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than them. Bring it like,
9:17
Shym, how would you feel about
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somebody applying for a producer role
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here who has an entourage of
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15 people with him? Well, has
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he spent four years in college
9:27
radio kicking ass or having tape
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to prove it? But I really
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think Baker Mayfield is the best
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example of this because he was
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a total dink right and he
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didn't drop it all right you
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had higher picking the draft they
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thought he was going to go
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like tenth he went number one
9:45
right and the patriots were picking
9:47
up the phone calling to see
9:49
if they could trade up to
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number two johnny manzell the same
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way all i'm saying is shidore
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has done enough on the football
9:57
field he's he's a career average
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of 71 percent and completion percent
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on the football field whether you
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think that maybe his talent is
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not great, OK, we can dispute
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that. But there's no way you
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go from being a projected top
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five, top 10, top 20 pick
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a fifth round There way. You
10:15
just saw it this week. But
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there's some shenanigans involved. shenanigans. Okay.
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All right, we have got to take a break. I'm
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sorry. We're just a little bit behind. We'll be
10:24
right back.
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