Colin Cowherd Podcast - Nick Wright On Mahomes Being A Mt. Rushmore ATHLETE, Chiefs Roster Underrated, Most WRONG NFL Take Of The Year, Colin’s Big MOVE

Colin Cowherd Podcast - Nick Wright On Mahomes Being A Mt. Rushmore ATHLETE, Chiefs Roster Underrated, Most WRONG NFL Take Of The Year, Colin’s Big MOVE

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Colin Cowherd Podcast - Nick Wright On Mahomes Being A Mt. Rushmore ATHLETE, Chiefs Roster Underrated, Most WRONG NFL Take Of The Year, Colin’s Big MOVE

Colin Cowherd Podcast - Nick Wright On Mahomes Being A Mt. Rushmore ATHLETE, Chiefs Roster Underrated, Most WRONG NFL Take Of The Year, Colin’s Big MOVE

Colin Cowherd Podcast - Nick Wright On Mahomes Being A Mt. Rushmore ATHLETE, Chiefs Roster Underrated, Most WRONG NFL Take Of The Year, Colin’s Big MOVE

Colin Cowherd Podcast - Nick Wright On Mahomes Being A Mt. Rushmore ATHLETE, Chiefs Roster Underrated, Most WRONG NFL Take Of The Year, Colin’s Big MOVE

Thursday, 30th January 2025
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a lot of times I'm on the

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air. I pull into the parking lot

3:25

when Dan Patrick goes on, so I

3:28

never get to hear Dan, who does

3:30

a great job. I don't get a

3:32

watch, like Steve and A rather shows,

3:34

because either I'm prepping for my show

3:37

or driving home. It's interesting. When I

3:39

worked at the other place, I was

3:41

there for the New England dynasty, a

3:44

big chunk of it in the 11

3:46

years. And it was great. I was,

3:48

you know, my friends were all either

3:50

New York Giant fans or Patriot fans.

3:52

And I never thought the Patriots were

3:54

the most talented team, although I

3:56

did think the Randy Moss years

3:58

were damn good. But I thought

4:00

I heard a lot of this stuff

4:02

about officiating and I

4:05

was always like oh shit I Did

4:07

think the bills got a first down,

4:09

but there were 13 minutes left

4:11

and I don't care I'm kind

4:13

of a believer And I've said

4:16

this I think to you and

4:18

others when people used to

4:20

complain about Jordan getting all the

4:22

calls of the warriors. I would always

4:24

say this How many turnovers did you

4:27

have and how many freeze throws did

4:29

you miss? If the answer combined is

4:31

20, I don't care about that go either way

4:34

call in the fourth quarter, right? Like you

4:36

had 11 turnovers and missed nine free throws.

4:38

I'm not going to listen to you. I

4:40

thought Buffalo was incredibly lucky. They

4:42

fumbled four times and recovered all of

4:44

them. I've never heard of that. in

4:47

a playoff game in my life. No,

4:49

Colin, there were five fumbles in the

4:51

game because Mahomes fumbled and Buffalo

4:53

recovered all five. As far as

4:55

back as the record books go,

4:58

first playoff team ever to do

5:00

that and lose. Like it's very

5:02

hard to go five or five

5:04

on fumble recoveries and not win

5:06

the game. They got very fortunate

5:08

on that. Yeah. My take on

5:10

the entire game was very much

5:12

like Matt Hasselback. Met Hasselbeck

5:14

and I and Drew Breeze and I

5:17

agreed that Sean McDermick acknowledged

5:19

after the game. Yeah, on the fourth

5:21

and one stuff, we, you know, we

5:23

just kind of let Josh, you know,

5:26

we just kind of figured Josh, we're

5:28

gonna kind of let him do it.

5:30

And I'm like, Annie Reed has never

5:32

once said, you know, I just kind

5:34

of let my homes kind of do

5:36

it. And I've been on this now

5:38

since you've known me at FS1 for

5:40

eight years. I think offensive coaches.

5:43

are better with star quarterbacks than defensive

5:45

coaches. And I think, one of

5:47

the things I've said about Brady

5:49

is where Brady really deserves credit.

5:51

He won with Arians. He won

5:53

with Bellichet, Charlie Weiss. He won

5:55

like six different people. Because remember,

5:57

Bill didn't really run the offense.

6:00

It was whoever the coordinator

6:02

was is that I do

6:04

think and this is not a shot at my homes. All

6:07

of us in life, some

6:09

kids grow up with really

6:11

doting rich parents and supportive

6:13

parents and some kids grow

6:15

up in chaos is my homes

6:17

would be successful regardless. But

6:20

do you think it's crazy

6:23

to consider that of my homes

6:25

and Alan's switch coaches that

6:28

Alan would have more Super Bowls

6:30

today than my homes? Oh, yes,

6:32

I do think that's crazy. I

6:34

don't think you have more Super

6:36

Bowls than my homes. Um, and

6:38

I think that, listen, I think

6:40

Patrick is going to go down

6:42

as a Mount Rushmore athlete,

6:44

not football player

6:46

athlete. And I

6:49

think that he is

6:51

has a special

6:53

innate ability that right

6:56

now no other quarterback in

6:58

like the people have been

7:00

beaten over the head with

7:02

the home stats. But some

7:04

of them are just like

7:06

impossible to believe. So

7:08

he already now

7:10

has more the more playoff

7:13

victories. Yeah. When his

7:15

defense allows 29 points than

7:17

any quarterback in NFL

7:19

history. So he

7:21

has four. He has won four playoff

7:23

games was even to allow 29 points.

7:25

That's Tom did it. I think Peyton

7:27

did it. I think three times and

7:29

Tom did it once arrive at vice

7:32

versa. But no one's done that. That

7:34

Patrick has played 20. And then I'm

7:36

going to get to the Josh Allen

7:38

piece of this. Patrick has played 20

7:40

playoff games. OK. 11

7:42

of them were what I would call easy

7:44

wins. They were leading in the fourth quarter

7:46

led the whole way. The nine

7:48

games, Colin, that

7:51

he was not that he trailed in

7:53

the fourth quarter. Six of

7:55

them, he won. One

7:58

of them, he forced.

8:00

overtime against New England never

8:02

touched the ball. Another one he

8:05

forced overtime against Cincinnati did not

8:07

come through and lost and the

8:09

other one they were down 31

8:11

to 9 against the Bucks entering

8:14

the fourth. So again and put

8:16

a little finer point on that

8:18

in his playoff career in the

8:20

fourth quarter trailing by one

8:22

score he has had 14 possessions. They

8:25

have tied or taken the lead

8:27

or taken the lead. 13 times. And

8:29

so, and the one time he

8:31

didn't, he then got the ball

8:33

back and did it. So... Do

8:35

you believe though that Andy

8:38

Reed is a prominent

8:40

part of that? A

8:42

hundred percent, absolutely, but

8:44

I also believe the

8:46

knock on Andy before

8:48

Patrick came into his

8:50

life was brilliant play

8:52

designer, but in these

8:54

exact moments I'm describing,

8:56

gets tight. and messes up

8:59

the clock or situationally isn't

9:01

buttoned up. That's how you

9:03

lose a 28-point lead to

9:05

the cults with Alex Smith.

9:07

That's how you lose an

9:09

eight and then the playoffs.

9:11

An 18-point lead to Marcus

9:13

Marioda. You know, Andy was

9:15

the chief's coach when those

9:17

things happen. So I think

9:19

it's the perfect marriage. preparer

9:22

of offense and plays and

9:24

all of it and Patrick is

9:26

the steadiest hand in the world

9:28

and so to me it's like

9:30

the the most brilliant

9:33

medical school professor pairing

9:35

up with the most naturally

9:38

gifted surgeon ever like he is

9:40

gonna give you all of the

9:42

tools and then you're gonna have

9:45

you know be the one with

9:47

the steady hand going to do

9:49

it. So that part and I

9:51

think Josh is excellent.

9:53

I also think that Josh had

9:55

the ball three and half minutes

9:58

left down three and got. 17

10:00

yards and zero points and a

10:02

year after getting the ball back with

10:04

six minutes left down three and

10:06

got 40 yards and Zero points like

10:08

that. That's not Patrick. That's not

10:10

Andy That's that's in those moment the

10:12

fourth and five play Josh was

10:14

excellent first down second down He was

10:16

not which set up the third

10:18

and ten which set up the fourth

10:20

and five Here is the

10:22

thing I want to say about the

10:24

sneaks Colin and this is where I'm

10:26

surprised more teams don't More

10:29

contending teams don't take a page out

10:31

of the chief's notebook Why

10:35

at some point during the year didn't

10:37

the bills Say

10:39

internally. Okay guys. I

10:42

think we pretty much well know how

10:44

to run this snake Can

10:47

we work on a couple other

10:49

short yardage things? Thank you. Thank

10:52

you. Hey The teams

10:54

have to prepare for other things.

10:56

Yeah, and B Even

10:59

though we've been basically undefeated

11:01

on it. If somebody has

11:03

a wrinkle that can stop

11:05

it We have a pivot point

11:07

Instead they just ran the same thing

11:09

all year because it was so

11:11

successful And that's that should be the

11:13

lesson of the chiefs the chiefs

11:15

early in the year people like oh

11:17

Kelsey's wash and it's like okay

11:19

He's obviously slowing down, but is

11:22

it is it that he's

11:24

washed or is it that they are

11:26

saying hey? It it hasn't

11:28

happened in years, but what if someone

11:30

in a playoff game takes him away

11:32

Let's make sure Xavier where he's ready

11:34

Let's make sure everybody else is ready

11:36

and then the AFC championship game He

11:39

has his worst game in five years

11:41

in the playoffs and other guys step

11:43

up if you're contending

11:45

for a championship Sometimes

11:47

preparing to win the

11:49

title is not the same as Making

11:52

sure every single possession of

11:54

my week seven game against

11:56

the Jets is at the

11:58

highest EPA And that's

12:00

where the chiefs have been brilliant,

12:03

and that's where the bills, I

12:05

think, have not been. Well, and I,

12:07

yeah, and I think to defend Josh

12:09

here, because I think he's all-time

12:12

stuff, I don't think fans understand

12:14

this. If you watched, I mean, I'm not

12:16

going to give away where I heard

12:18

this, but it comes from a good

12:20

source. Bella Czech can't even speak

12:23

offensive football. Like, defensive

12:25

coaches, they don't really understand

12:28

offensive football. That's not what they do.

12:30

And one of the things I've always

12:32

pointed to, and I think I'm the

12:34

only guy talking about this regularly, pat

12:36

myself in the back, have you noticed

12:38

how offensive coaches can rearrange the deck

12:41

chairs with an offensive line, within an off-season

12:43

and fix it? And he's done it twice.

12:45

Like, based on it two to three times.

12:47

McDadean multiple times. This year

12:49

they were terrible the first five

12:52

weeks. By the end of the

12:54

year Stafford never got touched. Defensive

12:56

coaches can't do that. Tomlands on

12:58

seven straight years of battle lines.

13:00

I mean Jeff Schwartz showed during

13:02

the playoff loss the Steelers offensive

13:05

line mayhem. They didn't know where

13:07

they were going. They were literally

13:09

often pulling to the wrong place.

13:11

Offensive coaches speak the language of

13:13

offense and the league has pivoted.

13:15

to reward them. It's almost like

13:17

if Trump, you know, when Trump

13:19

goes out and says, hey, I am pro,

13:21

you know, Bitcoin, cryptocurrency, I

13:24

am pro-crypto currency, well,

13:26

you know, that benefits people in

13:28

the industry. Like, the NFL's basically

13:30

set over the last 10 years. We're

13:32

going to go offense. We're going to

13:34

literally change the game. And so

13:37

there's a big chunk of these

13:39

defensive coaches. They don't speak it.

13:41

They don't speak it. They don't understand

13:43

the language. And what you're asking,

13:45

which is, why wouldn't they create

13:47

a second play? Well, that's not

13:49

their natural instinct. That's not who

13:51

they are. Andy Reed, in the

13:53

off-season, will send me plays. He's

13:55

working on that he found on

13:57

YouTube from Rose Bowls in the

13:59

fourth. He's like, hey, what do

14:01

you, hey, I'm not going to

14:03

tell you what I'm going to

14:06

use this. Don't share this. Look

14:08

at this play. That's not what

14:10

defensive coaches do. And I think

14:12

it's just an innate advantage. The

14:14

great. So what do you think

14:16

they should do? Because the thing

14:18

is, because, because the, I agree

14:20

with a lot of what you're

14:22

saying. Bella check took the Carolina

14:24

job. So it's not like, hey,

14:27

let's just get better situationally and,

14:29

you know, even if it's short

14:31

term, he's beaten Andy, he's beaten

14:33

Patrick. And I understand the folks

14:35

who are like, man, if it's

14:37

been this long, you haven't broken

14:39

through against this team, even if

14:41

McDermot's an excellent coach, sometimes what

14:43

happens to Mark Jackson to elevate

14:46

to Steve Kerr, he talks about

14:48

needs to happen, I get all

14:50

that. But can you take the

14:52

risk? of this part of Josh

14:54

Allen's prime of, we're handing the

14:56

reins over to a first-time unknown

14:58

head coach because he's an offensive

15:00

guy? Yeah, no, I think, listen,

15:02

I think, so was Sean McVeigh

15:05

and so was Matt LaFler. Right,

15:07

but so was all the guys

15:09

who failed. Like, you know, you

15:11

don't want to go ahead. No,

15:13

Sean McDermott. I think my comp

15:15

has always been Chuck Knox. I'm

15:17

saying, this is my age, but

15:19

Chuck Knox was known as an

15:21

organizer, highly competent, B plus coach,

15:24

Seahawks Bills. If you were a

15:26

shit show, he got you on

15:28

the right path. But he was

15:30

called Ground Chuck because the playoffs

15:32

would come and like Marty Shotner,

15:34

he got hyper conservative. And I

15:36

just think that's your fate in

15:38

life. Some people in my age

15:40

don't do social media. I think

15:43

it's a huge disadvantage. I do

15:45

a ton of social media. I've

15:47

got a tick-tock clip on Ronnie.

15:49

Today they'll get three million people.

15:51

I feed into it. I'm into

15:53

it. I love it. Not everybody

15:55

60 plus with gray hair is

15:57

into all these social media platforms.

15:59

The worst... we're in has changed.

16:02

TV doesn't drive all the business.

16:04

I'm comfortable with it. There are

16:06

other things in other industries people

16:08

aren't comfortable with. The NFL's culture

16:10

has changed. It's all offense. And

16:12

so a lot of these defensive

16:14

coaches, they're beholden to hiring the

16:16

right O.C. and the minute, you

16:18

know, Josh McDaniels and Brady leaves,

16:20

Bellow checks screwed. There's nothing he

16:23

can do. He doesn't know what he's

16:25

doing. And so I think it's just

16:27

like anything like anything like

16:29

anything. I'm watching the culture. I'm

16:31

not worried about me being good or

16:33

you after me being good. I'm not worried

16:36

about my staff. What I'm constantly

16:38

worried about in the volume is

16:40

where's the culture going? Where is

16:42

it going? I want to be ahead

16:44

of where the culture is changing. I

16:46

know my people are talented. So that's

16:49

the stuff I lose sleepover. offensive coaches

16:51

have been given the baton by the

16:53

league and defensive coaches now are trapped

16:55

they're totally beholden to hiring the right

16:58

oc and they know if he's any

17:00

good in two years he gets a

17:02

head job so it's a it is

17:04

really a disadvantage to be I feel

17:07

bad for Sean McDermott what is he

17:09

on his third or fourth oc well

17:11

right you a dable You had Dorsey

17:13

and now you have Brady. You're

17:16

on your third. So you're on

17:18

your third. No, the- And

17:20

each one's a different language?

17:22

I mean, with Andy, he's

17:24

always got the system. Correct.

17:26

And that's, well, listen, the

17:29

chiefs are, the dream scenario

17:31

is brilliant offensive head coach

17:33

paired with brilliant defensive

17:36

coordinator. who the whole league has

17:38

just decided can't be a head

17:40

coach and then it's just like

17:42

okay and we lose but for

17:45

the record this is why what Ben

17:47

Johnson did in Chicago is great

17:49

Dennis Allen's not getting a head

17:51

job he has I totally agree

17:53

with that that's exactly right

17:56

that could be his spagnolo

17:58

exactly right and he hired to

18:00

28 year old OC that nobody's

18:02

going to hire for four

18:04

years until he's 32. So basically,

18:06

Ben, I thought this was the

18:08

smartest move of all the coaches.

18:10

Ben Johnson hired two assistants will

18:13

not leave for four years. He

18:15

got he and that organization's

18:17

been all movement and chaos. And

18:19

also a similar thing might happen

18:21

for Vrable because I don't know

18:23

who's giving Josh McDaniels his next

18:25

opportunity, but it'll be a

18:27

long time. He never sold his

18:29

house there either. Right. And so

18:32

with like McDaniels, he got the

18:34

Broncos job. That didn't work. He

18:36

walked out on the Colts.

18:38

He got the Raiders job. That

18:40

didn't work. So if you're Vrable

18:42

and you're like, OK, Drake May

18:44

is the future. I don't want

18:46

Drake May to have this

18:48

rotating offensive coordinator situation. Josh McDaniels

18:51

is perfect because it what he's

18:53

probably doesn't get another head coaching

18:55

job. And if he does, it's

18:57

in like five, six, seven

18:59

years. That's right. It's one of

19:01

the sneaky. I don't want to

19:03

make commander's fans feel worse today,

19:06

but semi concerns for Jayden is

19:08

what you definitely want Jayden to

19:10

be awesome again, right? OK,

19:12

sure. If he's awesome again next

19:14

year, Cliff Kingsbury is getting another

19:16

job. It's just, you know what

19:18

I mean? Like the only way

19:20

Cliff Kingsbury, this sounds so

19:22

shitty. But the only way Cliff

19:25

Kingsbury doesn't leave Jayden Daniels in

19:27

a year is if next year

19:29

goes terribly. So that like that

19:31

is the curse of the

19:33

defensive head coach is you're going

19:35

to have to worry about that

19:37

for, you know, see to meet

19:39

CJ with the Miko. Amazing as

19:41

a rookie. People are worried.

19:43

Oh man, Bobby Slough is going

19:46

to get a head coaching job.

19:48

Then this year Slough is bad.

19:50

They get rid of him either

19:52

way. That that that turnover.

19:54

So yeah, that's why I thought

19:56

as much as I respect. for

19:58

Abel and think he's an excellent

20:01

coach. For Caleb's sake, I wanted

20:03

them to hire Ben Johnson because

20:05

the hope is he is hearing

20:07

this offensive language for the next

20:09

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20:11

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20:13

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think of something where

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we were the most wrong. we've

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been all football season. So

26:02

I'll give you what it is and

26:04

why it is, and I'll let you

26:06

think. So you know this is how

26:08

I think. I love, I think it

26:10

matters. I want my quarterback to have

26:12

a little artist, but mostly be

26:15

an accountant. I want you to

26:17

go, I want you to

26:19

have kind of Matt Ryan,

26:21

Jaylon Hertz personality, Justin Herbert.

26:24

Stand up there, talk about the

26:26

team, put out fires, be in

26:28

line. Brady's as good as anybody for

26:30

as big as stars Mahomes is he

26:32

really always just says nice things

26:34

he's really he's figured out my buddy

26:37

my former intern sorry to interrupt in

26:39

Kansas City and I'm sure hates that

26:41

I always call my former intern because

26:44

he's now the afternoon drive host on

26:46

16 in Kansas City and has been

26:48

for a long time he has a

26:51

weekly interview with Patrick Mahomes and has

26:53

had it for years and God bless

26:55

Carrington Harrison who does a great

26:58

job That poor guy never ever

27:00

gets any news out of it

27:02

because Patrick says nothing. He's had

27:05

a weekly exclusive interview with Patrick

27:07

Mahomes for five years. And if

27:09

you ever played one clip of

27:11

it on your show, the answer

27:14

is probably not because Patrick is

27:16

just so trained to say nothing.

27:18

Just say absolutely nothing. But go

27:20

ahead. So. And that's how I

27:22

like my quarterbacks. I've said this,

27:25

Johnny Mansell, Baker Mayfield, James Winston,

27:27

Cam Newton. If I see ego,

27:29

if I see self-importance, if I

27:31

see Jay Cutler grumpiness, I just

27:33

do not like it and I

27:35

think of overwhelmingly been right. So

27:37

I watched Nick Sariani's opening press

27:39

conference. It's the worst I've ever

27:41

seen. He's terrible at the podium.

27:44

He wore a jersey at the

27:46

last time after last win. He's

27:48

yelled at fans. He's gone after

27:50

players and he's had position

27:52

coaches hold him back.

27:54

His methodology stinks. And

27:57

yet, they love him. And I'm

27:59

like, this is... Ridiculous. This is

28:01

the exact opposite of what I want

28:03

my coach to be. And I, so

28:05

I've come to try to figure it

28:08

out. And I went and watched in

28:10

Chicago. I went and watched the comedian

28:12

Sebastian Manicasco. Very very funny guy. Great

28:15

performer. He reminds me a lot of

28:17

Chris Rock. He's like Ali in his

28:19

prime. I mean, he's got the look,

28:21

the physicality. He's really a performer, very

28:24

funny. And a lot of his act

28:26

is his Italian family and how dysfunctional,

28:28

and how dysfunctional, and how they yell

28:31

at each other, and how they yell

28:33

at each other, each other, and how

28:35

they yell at each other, and how

28:37

they yell at each other, and, and

28:40

how they yell at each other, and

28:42

the love, and, each other, and, and,

28:44

and, and, And I've learned this, cultures

28:47

are different. There are couples that argue

28:49

and that yell at each other. And

28:51

I'm like, oh, this isn't going to

28:53

work. And they've been married 37 years.

28:56

And I imagine the makeup sex is

28:58

great. Like they just get along, it

29:00

just works. And I've come to terms

29:03

with Siriani, is that in a highly

29:05

emotional city, with a highly intense GM

29:07

and fan base and radio media that's

29:09

just barking and make... He just fits.

29:12

He is the family member. He can

29:14

handle the BS. He can handle the

29:16

noise. He sometimes he's half fan. I

29:19

Just thought this is not he's very

29:21

dependent on coordinators. Here's the thing man

29:23

Everything you're saying is fair. I still

29:25

can't get there with him like everything

29:28

you're saying true. Here's what's also true

29:30

Had they blocked Jaylon Carter, they being

29:32

the Rams. On that third down in

29:35

round two, I think it's possible he

29:37

was fired 10 days ago. If after

29:39

that, if up 13 against the Rams

29:41

with jail and hurts injured, and then

29:44

up six. when he called that that

29:46

bootleg roll play action rollout on second

29:48

and seven and that resulted in a

29:50

dozen yards and all of a sudden

29:53

stabbards driving down the field down six

29:55

chance to steal the game and they

29:57

might have gotten rid of him now

30:00

instead he's a game away from having

30:02

the greatest start to a career any

30:04

coach ever. I don't know what

30:06

to make of it. I because

30:08

everything every instinct

30:11

I have says well this guy's

30:13

just a doefist the same

30:15

but you have like if any

30:17

position should be judged

30:19

based on their record it

30:21

should be head coach and

30:23

his record is

30:25

historically good so I don't

30:27

It really tests a lot of

30:30

my beliefs of what should and

30:32

what does work in the NFL.

30:34

And so yeah, this one, I

30:37

mean this off-season, they

30:39

totally, you know, what's the word

30:41

that's always used in political

30:43

Twitter? Defenestrated him. I think

30:45

is the word. Um, they

30:48

didn't even let him pick

30:50

his own coordinators. You know

30:52

what I mean? Early in

30:54

the year, he's freaking out

30:56

yelling at his fans after

30:59

a win. Even after the

31:01

NFC championship game. Jailin hurts.

31:03

It's like, yeah, coach finally let

31:05

me out of my straight jacket.

31:07

Like that's a weird thing. The

31:09

whole so I don't know, but

31:11

they haven't lost a game. that

31:13

jail and started and finished

31:16

in four months and they're

31:18

playing in the second Super Bowl

31:20

in two years or in three

31:22

years so yeah this that one

31:25

baffles me that that's my worst

31:27

I was basically perfect on my

31:29

AFC pre-season takes and I

31:31

could not predict it's become

31:33

a very easy conference in

31:35

the standings to predict and

31:38

so I I got and I

31:40

could not have been more wrong

31:42

about the NFC. So I obviously famously had

31:44

the Bears not only making the playoffs

31:46

or winning the conference, but I also

31:48

had the Eagles missing the playoffs. I

31:50

did it. I had Washington finishing ahead

31:53

of the Eagles, and my rationale was,

31:55

man, something really weird happened last year

31:57

to that team, and I don't trust this

31:59

coach. to pull them out of it.

32:01

And I also thought Saekwan Berkeley

32:04

would be good but not great

32:06

for them, but instead Saekwan had

32:08

one of the greatest years any

32:10

running backs had in the history

32:12

of football. Yeah, no, it's, um,

32:14

yeah, I really whipped on the

32:16

NFC stuff this year. I just

32:18

got a like, and even my

32:20

gambling on the NFC was worse

32:22

this year. I do think that

32:24

there's probably a tax for me

32:26

on being so dialed in on

32:29

Kansas City that I see the

32:31

AFC a lot clearer than the

32:33

NFC. Well also in the last

32:35

11 years if you count the

32:37

Super Bowl there's been 10 different

32:39

quarterbacks from the NFC represented the

32:41

Super Bowl. Oh yeah. Yeah Jaylon

32:43

Hurts is the first in 11

32:45

years to do it twice like

32:47

you don't know who's gonna win

32:49

the NFC. I mean you know.

32:51

Yeah, so you know, because all

32:53

the Hall of Fame quarterbacks, except

32:56

for the Packers quarterback, basically over

32:58

a long period, it gets Breeze

33:00

and Rogers, were the two great

33:02

in FC quarterbacks, and then all

33:04

the other ones were in the

33:06

AFC. Can I ask you a

33:08

question? Sure, yeah, go ahead. After

33:10

this year, take this year out

33:12

of it. This group of quarterbacks,

33:14

the Mahomes, Allen, Borough, Lamar, that

33:16

group, they're all 28, 29. Let's

33:20

say optimistically, they all have 10

33:22

more good years. That's probably on

33:24

the high end, but let's give

33:26

them a decade. Ten more seasons,

33:29

the 2025 season, onward. Man. At

33:31

least one of those guys is

33:33

never making, much less winning a

33:36

Super Bowl. like moving forward. So

33:38

I know Joe's already made what,

33:40

because here's the way I was

33:43

thinking about it. I'm like, okay,

33:45

because everyone's like, do you think

33:47

Josh will eventually get one? And

33:50

intellectually, I'm like, yes, of course,

33:52

he's second best player in the

33:54

league. Of course he'll get one.

33:56

But then I'm like, well, wait

33:59

a minute. Okay, so

34:01

in the next 10 years,

34:03

let's say Patrick slows down.

34:05

He only makes four of

34:07

the next... Or Andy Reed

34:09

retires. Yeah, so let's just

34:12

say, let's say Patrick only

34:14

makes four of the next

34:16

10. So there's six. So

34:18

that's six four. Lamar, Josh,

34:20

Joe. I know you've got Justin

34:23

Herbert getting the one eventually.

34:25

Bow Knicks, CJ. CJ Stroud.

34:27

and we're talking about 10

34:29

years so it's a couple

34:31

more generations coming into the league

34:33

like these guys all of these

34:35

guys being in the AFC is

34:37

devastating for the resumes they're trying

34:39

to bill well and the one

34:41

that's in trouble is Joe Burrow the

34:44

bingles had to sell naming rights

34:46

to the stadium to pay his

34:48

contract people don't understand this the

34:50

gentleman who first of all the

34:52

bingles don't have any money they

34:55

don't have any money It's just

34:57

like the poorest ownership group.

34:59

Joe Burrow knows it. They

35:01

had to sell naming rights

35:03

to a stadium to pay

35:05

him. They started peeling off

35:07

players even before they paid

35:10

Jamar Chase. They're peeling

35:12

off of them now. They haven't

35:14

paid Jamar yet. Yeah. Yeah.

35:16

And they're already peeling

35:18

off players. They are the

35:20

opposite of the Eagles. They

35:23

are anti-risk. Pleasant, very nice

35:25

guy, got no power. I mean,

35:27

the Brown family runs the organization.

35:29

They are essentially a AAA operation

35:31

in Major League Baseball that happens

35:33

to have Joe Borough. People make

35:35

fun of the Raiders. The Raiders, because

35:37

of some new ownership groups that

35:39

have come in, are flushed with

35:41

cash. That's why they can pay

35:43

for coaches and three general managers.

35:45

They got nothing but money. Mark

35:47

Davis has nothing but money, and

35:49

the Raiders are a brand. And

35:51

also it's Las Vegas. It's a

35:53

growing city. There's real money there.

35:55

No state tax. Very attractive place.

35:58

Cincinnati. They got no money. Burrow,

36:00

they'll never have a stacked roster.

36:02

The only time to really be

36:04

great with him was when he

36:07

was on the rookie contract. When

36:09

they pay Jamal Burrow, they're out

36:11

of money. Like Joe Burrow, I

36:14

feel terrible for him. Joe Burrow

36:16

would need to be super human.

36:18

I mean this year, he was

36:21

as good as he's ever been.

36:23

They couldn't make the playoffs. Herbert's

36:25

gonna get better with Harbaugh. Like

36:28

that's gonna only get better. Right,

36:30

that's what I'm saying, like, like

36:32

you're the one in trouble. And

36:34

here's the other, here's the other

36:37

concern for all those guys. Will

36:39

they, maybe different for Joe because

36:41

he's done it, but will those

36:44

guys be able to play Patrick

36:46

Mahomes, beat him, which is part

36:48

of the hypothetical, and then psychologically

36:51

be able to re-enter and be

36:53

able to re-enter and be able

36:55

to re-enter and be able to

36:58

the Super Bowl. Not like we

37:00

like that's the thing that I

37:02

would worry about for the bills

37:04

Not I do think well listen

37:07

Mahomes is not going to go

37:09

undefeated against Allen and his career

37:11

in the playoffs They will win

37:14

But man if next year the

37:16

bills finally beat the Chiefs in

37:18

the playoffs It's gonna be really

37:21

hard to psychologically then reset me

37:23

like actually the next games the

37:25

tougher bigger one and so that's

37:28

I the we have never I

37:30

can't remember a time when it

37:32

felt this disproportionate in quarterbacking talent

37:34

conference to conference and what it's

37:37

going to mean for these guys

37:39

kind of legacies when it comes

37:41

to who they were as far

37:44

as winning players or winning championships.

37:46

So I grew up a baseball

37:48

fan but the sport It's like

37:51

what Democrats name like Bill Maher

37:53

will say the Democratic Party is

37:55

leaving me. I haven't changed. I

37:58

was a baseball guy over a

38:00

football guy when I was a

38:02

kid, and then the sport just

38:05

got slow and ponderous, and football

38:07

was just better on television, and

38:09

I've lived through TV. Like, that's

38:11

my life as a kid. I'm going to

38:14

throw something at you that I think

38:16

is going to happen, is that I

38:18

think if you take out the NFL, that

38:20

every other sport is dependent

38:23

on where the best players play, and

38:25

it does not help, for instance, college

38:27

football got. two southern and two regional

38:30

Alabama, Georgia Clemson, it hurt the sport.

38:32

Michigan and Ohio states emergence will help

38:34

the sport over time. It will bring

38:37

a big group of, I'm a West

38:39

Coast guy, I was a big 10

38:41

pack 12 guy, because the Rose Bowl.

38:44

So I'm more of a big 10

38:46

guy than an SEC guy, although I

38:48

can acknowledge the SEC's great. I think

38:51

we're gonna have a change here in

38:53

the next five to 10 years in

38:55

sports. And that is. When the regional

38:57

sports networks went away and Fox

39:00

let them go, they were out

39:02

of money an hour later, and

39:05

those were vital to

39:07

Pittsburgh's, Cincinnati, Oakland, Kansas

39:09

City, Seattle, they were

39:11

vital. Sure. The sport now is

39:14

basically in the hands of

39:16

the Dodgers, Steve Cohen, and I

39:18

mean, I'm not sure the Yankees

39:20

and the Steinbrenners can

39:23

compete. Steinbrenners are saying

39:25

they can. What you're

39:27

seeing now in baseball is all

39:30

the riveting players play for

39:32

the Dodgers, the Phillies, the

39:34

Mets, or the Yankees. And I

39:36

think we're going to have a

39:38

renaissance in baseball. Is that

39:41

with these regional networks

39:43

gone, there's not even

39:45

the forget the fake appearance that

39:47

there's parody. There are like

39:49

four kings at the top.

39:51

Everything else is upon. Nothing else.

39:54

And you think that's good for

39:56

the sport? No, no. What I

39:58

think it's good for. for is the

40:01

primary weakness of baseball, it's television

40:03

ratings. The attendance is fine. It's

40:05

always dominated the summer. It has

40:07

died on television. Last year's National

40:09

League playoffs, it was like New

40:12

York, LA, San Diego, and eight

40:14

of the best 13 players in

40:16

the sport. And that we always

40:18

think parody matters. No, it doesn't.

40:21

The truth of the matter is.

40:23

If the Celtics, Chicago Bulls, and

40:25

the Lakers were great right now,

40:27

the NBA would be in great

40:29

shape. Oklahoma City is not good

40:32

for the league. There is this

40:34

belief. This is where I always

40:36

say about Kansas City. Dinacies aren't

40:38

bad. Great players on great brands

40:41

are not bad for the league.

40:43

I think we're going to have

40:45

a renaissance. I think the Dodgers,

40:47

Steve Cohen and the Mets, the

40:49

Yankees, and maybe one other team,

40:52

will not be able to afford

40:54

the best players. That's at Philadelphia,

40:56

maybe Philly's because their attendance and

40:58

their merchandising is so strong. I

41:01

don't know about their TV radio

41:03

deals locally. Is that I think

41:05

baseball has something the NBA doesn't.

41:07

All their fascinating players. I mean

41:09

if I told you this, the

41:12

six big TV products they have,

41:14

Otani, Judge, Bryce Harper, Mookie Bets.

41:16

Yeah, no. It's all Manny Machado,

41:18

they're all in the big, they're

41:21

all in these big glossy. favorable

41:23

markets. There's my take is that

41:25

we're going to have a renaissance

41:27

that baseball is going to come

41:29

storming back. It did in the

41:32

postseason. So I think this year

41:34

is the most important year baseball

41:36

has had in a very very

41:38

long time because of two things

41:41

and you kind of alluded to

41:43

both of them. One is the

41:45

momentum of last postseason which is

41:47

absolutely tremendous and the other is

41:49

the general angst. an annoyance by

41:52

the average fan towards the NBA.

41:54

Yeah. I think that it is

41:56

incumbent upon baseball to, and I

41:58

don't have. have a listen I

42:01

haven't spent a lot of time

42:03

thinking about this so I don't

42:05

even know exactly what I mean

42:07

by this but to seize this moment

42:09

because I agree with you I mean

42:11

we did our show from the World

42:13

Series now that's because it was in

42:16

New York so it was easy to

42:18

get to but also because we were

42:20

all so into it was great it

42:22

felt like such a cool event and

42:24

it was it was so lively and

42:26

active and it made me remember when

42:28

you know and when we

42:30

when I first started it

42:33

was shortly after when you

42:35

first started was before I

42:37

even had a show we were doing

42:39

our shows from the NBA finals

42:41

even though they were not

42:43

in LA it was Warriors

42:45

Cavs every year and we

42:47

traveled to Cleveland to do

42:49

our shows because it was

42:51

such an event that I think

42:53

baseball so I was talking to

42:56

I was talking to A

42:58

mutual friend of ours, I

43:00

don't think he'll mind me

43:03

saying this, so I'll just,

43:05

yeah, I'll quote him on

43:08

it. Our friend Maverick.

43:10

And he said that the

43:12

media is moving towards

43:15

an event model, where

43:17

things have to feel like

43:20

an event. And it's why

43:22

even though... Mike Tyson 60

43:24

years old and could barely

43:27

get to the ring that

43:29

was huge it felt yeah

43:31

and the NFL every

43:33

game feels like an

43:35

event you'll have the

43:37

college football playoff is

43:39

exactly UFC feels big

43:42

event and so that's

43:44

really really hard for

43:46

baseball so you know because

43:48

there's so many games

43:51

so finding ways Maybe

43:53

it is via marketing

43:55

their stars to to

43:57

pick these benchmarks.

44:00

that are there events of the

44:02

year or marquee matchups or game?

44:04

This is where Fox gets credit.

44:06

They're the one that came up

44:08

with a London game, the game

44:10

in the cornfield. Well, yeah, the

44:13

Field of Dreams game, 100% that

44:15

felt big. That's an event, like

44:17

something cool like that, that makes

44:19

it stand out from the noise

44:21

of everything else. That's right. Yeah,

44:23

no, that was Fox, Fox. management

44:26

came and said you guys need

44:28

more big events and they work

44:30

by the way I watch the

44:32

London games they were cool it's

44:34

special field of dreams game is

44:36

cool every year it's just awesome

44:39

it looks cool it's great yeah

44:41

no I think Maverick Carter's right

44:43

on that I think there's a

44:45

lot of reasons for that but

44:47

I think you have to you

44:50

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44:52

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Chiefs like I have the Dodgers

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45:03

all-star. It's like an all-star game.

45:05

I mean, seriously, you get down

45:07

to like, Teoska Hernandez is batting

45:09

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45:11

just dominated the series in the

45:14

Bronx. Like, everybody's great. The whole

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45:18

mean, they've got Tommy Edmund batting

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48:59

on this because of your, your fandom and

49:01

your and your loyalty and devotion to

49:03

them. And I made this argument that I

49:05

think I talked to an executive two weeks

49:07

ago because I had said something

49:09

on the air and he disagreed. He

49:11

goes, there's this, because I called the

49:13

bills, the chiefs without the trophies. Yeah.

49:15

And he goes, and this GM's team

49:17

played both. And he said, the

49:20

chiefs got way better players. He

49:22

said, he said, he said, Josh

49:24

Allen's great. He said, but,

49:26

and James Cook is a nice

49:29

find. He said, but none of their

49:31

receivers scare you. He says,

49:33

their defensive line doesn't have

49:35

a dominant player. Russo at Oliver,

49:37

their flashes at Oliver gives

49:39

you flashes. He said Kansas City's

49:41

linebackers are better tacklers and

49:43

faster. They've got the best corner.

49:46

They, Chris Jones is unblockable and moves

49:48

all over the line. And he

49:50

said, there's this feeling that Buffalo

49:52

and Kansas City and even

49:54

Baltimore to agree, to a degree,

49:56

it's just Mahomes is the difference. No.

49:58

And he said, He said, no,

50:01

Kansas City's got six to seven

50:03

players that Buffalo that would

50:05

start immediately for Buffalo over

50:07

players perceived as really good

50:09

players for Buffalo. So all

50:11

all just, you know, listen,

50:14

I think Patrick, if you give him a

50:17

chance, finds a way. And

50:19

I obviously Andy is, you know,

50:21

we've talked about it might end

50:23

up the greatest coach of all time.

50:25

He's certainly now on the Mount

50:27

Rushmore and moving up. But

50:30

it's also the margins

50:32

are so thin

50:34

in what makes a

50:36

good team great and a

50:39

great team legendary. So I'm

50:41

just going to go to

50:43

two seemingly innocuous

50:45

draft day transactions that

50:49

involve the Chiefs in the bills. And I'm not going to

50:51

write with both of the by the way, you're right

50:53

with both of these. So yeah. And I'm not talking about

50:55

the Chiefs trading with the bills to get my home

50:57

set that aside. Yeah. In

50:59

in 2021, after the Chiefs trade

51:02

in 2022, Chiefs trade Tyree kill,

51:04

they have the extra first round

51:06

pick. The New England

51:08

Patriots are on the clock. The bills

51:10

are drafting right after them. The

51:13

Chiefs need a corner. They're

51:15

drafting later. The bills need a

51:17

corner. The Chiefs trade up

51:19

with New England with the

51:21

express purpose of getting ahead

51:23

of Buffalo. They draft Trent

51:25

McDuffie, who now is

51:27

a two time all pro

51:29

and in my opinion, a top

51:32

four corner in the entire NFL.

51:34

University of Washington, I

51:36

watched him 25 times in

51:39

college. Spectacular player. Spectacular

51:41

player. Again,

51:43

two time not pro bowl all pro

51:46

after three years in league. The

51:48

bills still need a

51:50

corner. They got jumped. They

51:52

take Cairo Elam, who

51:55

has been at the bottom of their roster

51:57

since they took him when he got put

51:59

in the game because Ben got hurt on Sunday,

52:01

Romo basically was like, well, they're

52:03

in trouble. That happened in the

52:05

draft. Last year, in the draft,

52:07

the chiefs and the bills both

52:09

need a receiver. The bills do

52:11

not value Xavier worthy because they,

52:13

like a lot of people, by

52:15

the way, think, eh, 160 pounds,

52:17

I don't know, man. The chiefs

52:19

want him. Because Patrick really really

52:21

wants him. The bills want a

52:23

big red zone target. They want

52:25

Kian Coleman. He's going to be

52:27

there later. So they're like, I

52:29

think we were going to take

52:31

Kian here anyway, probably. Might as

52:33

well get the extra pick. Trade

52:35

with Kansas City. Can city takes

52:37

a receiver's aviore worthy? They take

52:39

Kian Komen. Man, you flip those

52:41

two players in the AFC championship

52:43

game. Buffalo wins. If the chief,

52:45

if the Buffalo is trip McDuffie

52:47

and not Kyerealum or even the

52:49

Savior worthy at a hundred yards

52:51

in a touchdown, Kiankoman had nothing.

52:53

Buffalo, see I'd push back, Buffalo

52:55

wouldn't use him like Andy Reed,

52:57

Andy Reed, because I was one

52:59

of those, he's 160 pounds, he's

53:01

a gadget guy, and he was

53:03

in the first two months of

53:05

the season. It's Andy's development of

53:07

him, I mean if you go

53:09

look at Rashi Rice, he came

53:11

in your like... And he was

53:13

awesome by the end of the

53:15

year. People are like, I talked

53:17

to Andy Reid about this today

53:19

on the show or it'll be

53:21

Wednesday if you're listing Thursday morning.

53:23

I'm like, everybody thinks college and

53:25

high school's development. I'm like, take

53:27

me through the process of how

53:29

you turn a gadget guy into

53:31

a volume guy and he just

53:34

said. We asked him to do

53:36

a bunch of stuff and not

53:38

all the players will do this.

53:40

Xavier Worthy said yes to all

53:42

the things we asked him to

53:44

do. Because Xavier Worthy, I talk

53:46

to people before the draft. I

53:48

get a lot of my opinions

53:50

and they're like, he's a gadget

53:52

guy, he's not a 12 target

53:54

guy. And he made him that.

53:56

So I don't think if, I

53:58

don't think of Xavier Worthy, I

54:00

don't think if he's in Buffalo

54:02

he ever be... comes to the

54:04

chess world. That might be true.

54:06

McDuffie I think is great anywhere.

54:08

I think he's a great player.

54:10

And so it's just the point

54:12

I'm making is like it's it's

54:14

really got to be the whole

54:16

organization. Brett Beach pulling in the

54:18

same direction if you are trying

54:20

to achieve something no team ever

54:22

has. Which what they're trying to

54:24

do. How about this? The

54:27

chiefs have made five of

54:29

the last six Super Bowls,

54:31

the Eagles and Niners, two

54:33

each, the other two winners,

54:35

rams and bucks. What do

54:37

they have in common? Uber, aggressive

54:39

GMs, all make moves at

54:41

the deadline, all trade up to

54:44

the draft, conservative teams like the

54:46

Steelers and Packers, bingles. In

54:48

the end, in personnel, they can't

54:50

keep up. Is that this is

54:53

a real thing. Look at

54:55

the trade-ups. Mahomes. Yes. McDuffie. And

54:57

this is this is why Joe

55:00

Burrow is screwed. Yeah. Look

55:02

at, look at Howie Roseman. I

55:04

mean, everybody talks about the Saekwan

55:06

Barkley move. That wasn't even

55:08

brilliant. That was an easy one.

55:11

Sure. I was like, I could

55:13

have made that move. I

55:15

mean, right. And I, I don't

55:18

want to undersell it because

55:20

again, I underestimated Saekwan. But the

55:22

risky moves are you bring up

55:25

Howie. Jaylon Carter might be

55:27

the most talented player in this

55:29

draft. He's falling because of the

55:31

off-the-field issues with the car

55:33

accident and the tragedy there. We

55:36

want him. We think he's a

55:38

superstar. We're going to trade

55:40

it up. They traded up with

55:43

Chicago. Chicago had that pick, traded

55:45

back. They take Jaylon Carter.

55:47

He's instantly, you know, the best

55:49

D tackle in the whole conference

55:52

for them. Like, yeah, that's

55:54

right. Things less needed. Jason Light

55:56

with the bucks. It really, it's

55:59

too hard. to win

56:01

championships in this

56:03

league. Yes, you need to

56:06

have a quarterback that kicks

56:08

ass almost always. You also

56:10

though need, you know, the

56:13

sharp head coach and the

56:15

forward thinking GM and the

56:17

guys, the young players to

56:19

develop, you gotta hit all

56:22

of it in quick

56:24

succession. So you know I'm moving

56:26

to Chicago here in the

56:29

spring. Have you, so, it's official.

56:31

It's official. Yeah, I bought a house.

56:33

Well, I, well, I did see that you

56:36

bought a house, but I didn't

56:38

know if you had, it's official.

56:40

Is this, is this, you're breaking the

56:42

news? No, no, first of all,

56:44

it's, I figured you and I

56:47

talk about this stuff. And so,

56:49

no, I mean, I told Fox

56:51

six months ago and Fox has

56:53

been great. Fox has been accommodating.

56:55

I know Fox knows, I'm saying, is

56:57

the audience finding this out from

56:59

you for the first time right now?

57:02

I don't know if they are, I

57:04

don't think they care because when you

57:06

watch me on TV, you don't care

57:08

where I'm at, do you? So are

57:10

you going to be, do you think

57:12

full-time Chicago? Yeah. 85% I'll come and

57:14

do a week during the football season.

57:16

in Los Angeles. I'll do a

57:18

week. Like in September I'll come

57:20

up for a week October, November

57:23

and the staff will build, you

57:25

know, we'll have a lot of

57:27

life. But 90% of my guess,

57:29

you're a great example

57:32

of my three or four

57:34

strongest guests that pop a

57:36

rating. You're one of them.

57:38

You're not live next to

57:40

me. But... The truth of the

57:42

matter is, is Brady's been

57:44

on, Drew Breeze and Hasselbeck,

57:47

they're not live, they're not

57:49

live, Cosell's not live. Coselles

57:51

not live. Coselles not live.

57:53

Coselles not live. Coselles not live.

57:55

Cuz I think my wife has

57:57

given a lot to my career

57:59

and sacrifice. I love Chicago. I've

58:01

said my two favorite cities in

58:03

the world are London and Chicago.

58:05

I like LA. My wife doesn't

58:07

like it as much. I like

58:09

LA. It's kind of spread out

58:11

for me. I kind of like

58:13

the downtown area. I like Kensington,

58:15

Patington, in London. I like kind

58:17

of urban areas where I can

58:19

just walk all day long. in

58:21

Los Angeles, I don't have that

58:23

Chicago. I can just walk downtown.

58:25

I like that. I like Florence,

58:27

Italy, London, Chicago. I like walking

58:29

around a town. You can't do

58:31

that in Houston, Atlanta, Los Angeles.

58:33

LA is just too spread out.

58:35

So I like where I live,

58:37

but it lacks that sort of

58:39

feel for me. And so I

58:41

love the city. She's got her

58:43

sister there. I've got a lot

58:46

of friends there. And I think

58:48

it's just time to help. I

58:50

think it's time to be a

58:52

better guy. I'd be a better

58:54

husband. Well, a number of things.

58:56

One is, that's touching that you're

58:58

doing this for your wife, I

59:00

think is fair to say. I

59:02

think that's great. I think it

59:04

is also exciting. You've never lived

59:06

there, correct. So like you, I

59:08

know you have an apartment there,

59:10

like you spent time, but you've

59:12

lived a lot of places, but

59:14

you've never had, you know, where

59:16

you spend the majority of your

59:18

time, be Chicago. So correct? Yeah,

59:20

I've lived in four different homes

59:22

in LA and eight years, so

59:24

I move a lot. You move

59:26

a lot? I do, I've lived

59:28

in Los Vegas, I've lived in

59:30

Tampa, I live in Los Angeles.

59:32

Now Chicago, I'm, you know what,

59:34

I, I always said, Nick, I

59:36

think it's an advantage as a

59:38

broadcaster. I think it gives me

59:40

a sense of every region when

59:42

I lived in Tampa. I had

59:44

a, I, I, motor sports, SEC

59:46

football. I didn't know the passion.

59:48

It's like, wow, for two years,

59:50

I really learned what people care

59:52

about. I, I look at it

59:54

and first of all, you know

59:56

Chicago. Chicago is one of the

59:58

great guy cities ever. great bars,

1:00:00

great steaks, great sports, great beach.

1:00:02

It's just incredible. I mean, yeah,

1:00:04

you know you're going to, you're

1:00:06

breaking our dear friend Danny Parkin's heart

1:00:08

because I saw the article because you listen,

1:00:11

you're, you know your big time when you

1:00:13

buy a house and it's a news story.

1:00:15

It's like, wow, famous broadcaster Connie Howard. I

1:00:17

hate that so much. And I know you

1:00:20

hate it, but it cracks cracks me up.

1:00:22

But because of that, not only did I

1:00:24

know you bought a house, you bought a

1:00:26

house, but I know where it. It's like

1:00:28

six minutes from where Parkins used to live.

1:00:31

And now Danny moved to Chicago. He's still,

1:00:33

you and him still, I don't think, have

1:00:35

ever met in person. You guys are gonna

1:00:37

be in person together for the first

1:00:39

time ever at the Super Bowl. But

1:00:41

it also means all see, if you're

1:00:43

in Chicago, you're going to be in

1:00:46

New York more often. Because you don't

1:00:48

come to New York ever. And I

1:00:50

now, now it's a short

1:00:52

enough flight, I can guilt

1:00:54

you into it. Yeah, our

1:00:56

wives, who have spent no

1:00:58

time together, can get together,

1:01:00

we can go to Broadway.

1:01:02

Do you, have I told you

1:01:04

this about me? That the oddest

1:01:07

thing that happened with me

1:01:09

moving to New York is

1:01:11

I found out, I absolutely

1:01:14

love Broadway. I mean, like,

1:01:16

I've seen Wicked four times. I

1:01:18

see. All the shows I don't

1:01:21

care how it sounds I know

1:01:23

people here's the thing when I

1:01:25

got to New York I'm like

1:01:28

a musical that sounds terrible who

1:01:30

it right and then you go

1:01:32

and it's like oh This is really

1:01:34

like having courtside seats to the

1:01:37

NBA in that yeah, you're this

1:01:39

close and these are the best

1:01:41

in the world at what they

1:01:44

do Yeah, performing live and so

1:01:46

That's like the food and Broadway

1:01:48

or what I love about New

1:01:50

York more than anything. But uh,

1:01:53

but so you'll be a

1:01:55

little closer. That's exciting. Congratulations.

1:01:57

It also means FS1 is now

1:01:59

like, we're. We're in New York, Chicago,

1:02:01

L.A. That was need a foothold in

1:02:03

Denver or something. I don't know. No,

1:02:06

that was my pitch. I said, Fox

1:02:08

News, nobody's in New York, and they're

1:02:10

all over the country. Why us, F.S.

1:02:12

1 have to all be in L.A.

1:02:15

And my take was, we don't have

1:02:17

a show in the middle of the

1:02:19

country. Why not? Yeah, that was, that

1:02:22

was your pitch was probably like, like,

1:02:24

this is really what I want to

1:02:26

do. No, I... That's exciting man. I'm

1:02:28

really happy for you. You've been talking

1:02:31

about this for a while. And so

1:02:33

I'm really happy that's finally happening. Yeah,

1:02:35

so I guess I am announcing it.

1:02:38

It is, and for the record, my

1:02:40

employers have both been amazing. They both

1:02:42

said, what do you want? We'll build

1:02:44

you a studio. So the thing about

1:02:47

Fox Sports, Fox Sports, I don't know,

1:02:49

there's an ownership position with the Big

1:02:51

Ten. Yeah. Not to bore people with

1:02:54

it, but there's certain things in television

1:02:56

called fibers. And because Fox and the

1:02:58

Big Ten building and the Fox LA

1:03:00

building have similar or share fibers, it's

1:03:03

a really easy transition. Oh, okay. So

1:03:05

I didn't, I, for the record, so

1:03:07

the audience doesn't feel out of the

1:03:10

loop, I, I have no idea what

1:03:12

these fibers are. So I didn't know

1:03:14

what you just said, I didn't know

1:03:16

the audience, no, I didn't know. But,

1:03:19

no, I did figure, when you were

1:03:21

first bringing this, bringing this up, I

1:03:23

didn't know exactly how you're going to

1:03:25

pull it off, but I assumed Chicago

1:03:28

was easier than if you're like, guys,

1:03:30

my wife desperately wants to live in

1:03:32

St. Louis, let's figure it out. Like

1:03:35

Chicago's a huge city, the big tens

1:03:37

there. Do you think you'll go? You'll

1:03:39

go to more college football games, being

1:03:41

right there. Well, I'm already a Bulls

1:03:44

and Blackhawk season ticket holder, so I

1:03:46

bought a sweet. at the basketball arena.

1:03:48

So I go to, you know, so

1:03:51

I told Ann, I said, we're going

1:03:53

to move to Chicago and just. to

1:03:55

show you my commitment to you and

1:03:57

the city, we're going to go to

1:04:00

stuff a lot. So every time we

1:04:02

go, I mean, every other night, we

1:04:04

go to an event, we go to

1:04:07

a place downtown, we'll go watch music,

1:04:09

do whatever we do. So, and I

1:04:11

gotta tell you something, you know how

1:04:13

you said you've discovered that you love

1:04:16

Broadway, and Broadway is amazing. I have

1:04:18

found that. a promise to my wife.

1:04:20

I said, the next 20 years, we're

1:04:23

gonna go minimum once a year. I

1:04:25

love that. And I gotta be honest

1:04:27

with you, Nick. You know what I

1:04:29

really love? I like going out at

1:04:32

night. I never thought I was go

1:04:34

out at night guy. If I could

1:04:36

go out every single night, every god

1:04:39

damn night, I would. I love. That's

1:04:41

remarkable. All right, so I wouldn't have

1:04:43

thought that either, because I am. I'm

1:04:45

not as much the club guy as

1:04:48

I used to be, but let's not

1:04:50

talk in clubs. I know you're not,

1:04:52

I'm talking about me, but the, I

1:04:55

met my wife, she was a club

1:04:57

promoter, is how we met, and so

1:04:59

she and I used to go out

1:05:01

all the time to clubs, now we're

1:05:04

more the very late dinners. Like last

1:05:06

night, we had a night, it was

1:05:08

a Tuesday, whatever last night was, we

1:05:10

had a nine o'clock dinner reservation, some

1:05:13

Italian place in New York, so I'm

1:05:15

Italian place in New York, so I

1:05:17

totally get that. So here's an added

1:05:20

benefit, whether you're thinking about it or

1:05:22

not. Even though your show's on at

1:05:24

the same time, for you, it's two

1:05:26

hours less. Angelus is really full of

1:05:29

unbelievable people. And secondly, Chicago. Chicago is

1:05:31

such a cool town. The architecture, the

1:05:33

people, I still don't think they've totally

1:05:36

recovered from COVID. I think Michigan Avenue

1:05:38

feels a little less active than it

1:05:40

was, but I don't know it well

1:05:42

enough to have big strong opinions. I

1:05:45

don't know how New York feels. I

1:05:47

think COVID beat up some Midwest towns

1:05:49

more than others. But I think it's,

1:05:52

I think, you know, people, you know,

1:05:54

McIntyre is always like, oh, it's cold.

1:05:56

I'm like, dude, they're called, they're called

1:05:58

coats, I can't. take like you live

1:06:01

in Houston I couldn't take that heat

1:06:03

I can take cold I grew up

1:06:05

in Seattle. I mean listen the winter

1:06:07

winters in Chicago weather wise or

1:06:10

rough but there's there's a trade

1:06:12

off to everything and so I

1:06:14

agree with you on that there there

1:06:16

are certain cities that become just

1:06:19

avatars for political points people are

1:06:21

trying to make yes and so

1:06:23

like San Francisco has become one

1:06:25

in certain ways Chicago forever has

1:06:27

been one to and because of

1:06:30

that it has gotten listen it

1:06:32

is it's one of the just

1:06:34

objectively one of America's finest

1:06:36

cities and if you're one of

1:06:39

America's finest cities not to sound

1:06:41

all Uber patriotic you're one of

1:06:43

the finest cities in the world

1:06:45

and so and if you're a big obviously

1:06:48

like you know you want to spend

1:06:50

more time going to Europe it's not

1:06:52

the biggest difference in the world but

1:06:54

it is a considerably easier flight.

1:06:57

Like Chicago there from LA there

1:06:59

is a difference. It's why like

1:07:01

my wife we spent last year

1:07:03

after the Super Bowl we went

1:07:05

to Tokyo and then went Tokyo

1:07:07

South in Japan and I truly

1:07:09

think it was the greatest trip

1:07:11

my wife's ever been on. She

1:07:13

loved it so much. It just feels

1:07:15

almost prohibitive because it's like

1:07:18

man it's six hours. Flying

1:07:20

and you're still in the US like they're

1:07:22

from New York there like it is a

1:07:25

brutal and Europe so easy from here So

1:07:27

that's great man, and I'm glad I'm honored

1:07:29

you got you announced it with me This

1:07:31

is gonna you know, the trades are gonna

1:07:34

have a big field day with this. Oh

1:07:36

are you guys are con coward moving Chicago?

1:07:38

Oh, by the way, sweet, sweet little kind

1:07:40

of flex on the, I already have a

1:07:43

sweet at the United Center. My goodness gracious.

1:07:45

Well, that wasn't it. That was my wife.

1:07:47

I promised my wife, I said, because she

1:07:50

said, you're never going to leave LA. You love

1:07:52

LA. And I said, no, I have friends. I love,

1:07:54

I love my little clubs I go to,

1:07:56

my little, my little places with my

1:07:58

buddies, my buddy David. sleigh who owns

1:08:00

restaurants in Manhattan Beach. I love the

1:08:03

people. And I do think the weather

1:08:05

is nice, although I will tell you

1:08:07

where I live is by the water.

1:08:10

It gets cold in LA in the

1:08:12

winter a lot. My car was, it

1:08:14

was 41 degrees when I pulled out

1:08:17

this morning. I wouldn't, that's not an

1:08:19

art. You say that and people in

1:08:21

Chicago are like, my car literally froze.

1:08:23

They're like, nobody wants to hear the

1:08:26

41 degrees. But listen, you're entering it.

1:08:28

That's great. And I told Anne, I

1:08:30

said, I'm going to commit to the

1:08:33

city, I'm going to commit to tickets,

1:08:35

and we're going to go to events

1:08:37

and comedy shows. We've seen John Malaney

1:08:39

and Sebastian Manicaoco, and we're going to

1:08:42

go to anybody that's in town, and

1:08:44

I love the people. And it's funny,

1:08:46

the life I've lived, not to board

1:08:49

people, but it's a tradeoff. It would

1:08:51

be awesome to live on the same

1:08:53

street for 45 years, and literally know.

1:08:56

I've followed commerce, I've bounced all over

1:08:58

the country, and there's some advantages and

1:09:00

disadvantages to it. But I'm so excited

1:09:02

to live in the Midwest, to live

1:09:05

in a great great city, next to

1:09:07

cousins. I'm fired up. And my son

1:09:09

wants to go to North Western here

1:09:12

in a couple years, maybe, so. That's

1:09:14

all. Well, congratulations. You deserve it and

1:09:16

it's fantastic. I could think a no

1:09:19

better way to go ahead. You're a

1:09:21

Kansas City kid. You've lived in New

1:09:23

York. It's been an amazing experience. Oh

1:09:25

yeah, and no, I've lived, I've lived,

1:09:28

Kansas City, Houston, Los Angeles, New York.

1:09:30

I've lived, you know, geographically, never SEC,

1:09:32

and never Pacific Northwest, but everywhere else

1:09:35

I feel like I kind of have

1:09:37

a feel for. Yeah, I think it's

1:09:39

one of the cool parts about the

1:09:41

job is being able to have lived

1:09:44

different places. I am I think, and

1:09:46

then I know we have to go.

1:09:48

I think the next place all live

1:09:51

is Vegas. I think that the because

1:09:53

my wife wants to open a store

1:09:55

in Vegas and I obviously have you

1:09:58

know a lot of connections to poker

1:10:00

and stuff and so I yeah the

1:10:02

I think that all do you know

1:10:04

my youngest is in sixth grade and

1:10:07

so all you know I plan to be in New York

1:10:09

for the bulk of if not the entirety of my 40s

1:10:11

but if I were to leave New York um I think Vegas

1:10:13

is where I is the place I think I think I

1:10:15

think I think I think I is the place I think

1:10:17

I think I think I think I think I think I

1:10:19

think I think I think I think I think I think

1:10:21

I think I think I think I think I think I think

1:10:24

I think I think I think I think I think I

1:10:26

think I think I think I think I think I think

1:10:28

I Well I lived there for seven

1:10:30

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1:10:32

was still mobsters, remnants of mobsters.

1:10:35

It's a very corporate town. It's

1:10:37

an incredible food city. Yeah. Incredible.

1:10:39

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1:10:41

All the restaurants are there now

1:10:44

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1:10:46

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1:10:48

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