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a lot of times I'm on the
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air. I pull into the parking lot
3:25
when Dan Patrick goes on, so I
3:28
never get to hear Dan, who does
3:30
a great job. I don't get a
3:32
watch, like Steve and A rather shows,
3:34
because either I'm prepping for my show
3:37
or driving home. It's interesting. When I
3:39
worked at the other place, I was
3:41
there for the New England dynasty, a
3:44
big chunk of it in the 11
3:46
years. And it was great. I was,
3:48
you know, my friends were all either
3:50
New York Giant fans or Patriot fans.
3:52
And I never thought the Patriots were
3:54
the most talented team, although I
3:56
did think the Randy Moss years
3:58
were damn good. But I thought
4:00
I heard a lot of this stuff
4:02
about officiating and I
4:05
was always like oh shit I Did
4:07
think the bills got a first down,
4:09
but there were 13 minutes left
4:11
and I don't care I'm kind
4:13
of a believer And I've said
4:16
this I think to you and
4:18
others when people used to
4:20
complain about Jordan getting all the
4:22
calls of the warriors. I would always
4:24
say this How many turnovers did you
4:27
have and how many freeze throws did
4:29
you miss? If the answer combined is
4:31
20, I don't care about that go either way
4:34
call in the fourth quarter, right? Like you
4:36
had 11 turnovers and missed nine free throws.
4:38
I'm not going to listen to you. I
4:40
thought Buffalo was incredibly lucky. They
4:42
fumbled four times and recovered all of
4:44
them. I've never heard of that. in
4:47
a playoff game in my life. No,
4:49
Colin, there were five fumbles in the
4:51
game because Mahomes fumbled and Buffalo
4:53
recovered all five. As far as
4:55
back as the record books go,
4:58
first playoff team ever to do
5:00
that and lose. Like it's very
5:02
hard to go five or five
5:04
on fumble recoveries and not win
5:06
the game. They got very fortunate
5:08
on that. Yeah. My take on
5:10
the entire game was very much
5:12
like Matt Hasselback. Met Hasselbeck
5:14
and I and Drew Breeze and I
5:17
agreed that Sean McDermick acknowledged
5:19
after the game. Yeah, on the fourth
5:21
and one stuff, we, you know, we
5:23
just kind of let Josh, you know,
5:26
we just kind of figured Josh, we're
5:28
gonna kind of let him do it.
5:30
And I'm like, Annie Reed has never
5:32
once said, you know, I just kind
5:34
of let my homes kind of do
5:36
it. And I've been on this now
5:38
since you've known me at FS1 for
5:40
eight years. I think offensive coaches.
5:43
are better with star quarterbacks than defensive
5:45
coaches. And I think, one of
5:47
the things I've said about Brady
5:49
is where Brady really deserves credit.
5:51
He won with Arians. He won
5:53
with Bellichet, Charlie Weiss. He won
5:55
like six different people. Because remember,
5:57
Bill didn't really run the offense.
6:00
It was whoever the coordinator
6:02
was is that I do
6:04
think and this is not a shot at my homes. All
6:07
of us in life, some
6:09
kids grow up with really
6:11
doting rich parents and supportive
6:13
parents and some kids grow
6:15
up in chaos is my homes
6:17
would be successful regardless. But
6:20
do you think it's crazy
6:23
to consider that of my homes
6:25
and Alan's switch coaches that
6:28
Alan would have more Super Bowls
6:30
today than my homes? Oh, yes,
6:32
I do think that's crazy. I
6:34
don't think you have more Super
6:36
Bowls than my homes. Um, and
6:38
I think that, listen, I think
6:40
Patrick is going to go down
6:42
as a Mount Rushmore athlete,
6:44
not football player
6:46
athlete. And I
6:49
think that he is
6:51
has a special
6:53
innate ability that right
6:56
now no other quarterback in
6:58
like the people have been
7:00
beaten over the head with
7:02
the home stats. But some
7:04
of them are just like
7:06
impossible to believe. So
7:08
he already now
7:10
has more the more playoff
7:13
victories. Yeah. When his
7:15
defense allows 29 points than
7:17
any quarterback in NFL
7:19
history. So he
7:21
has four. He has won four playoff
7:23
games was even to allow 29 points.
7:25
That's Tom did it. I think Peyton
7:27
did it. I think three times and
7:29
Tom did it once arrive at vice
7:32
versa. But no one's done that. That
7:34
Patrick has played 20. And then I'm
7:36
going to get to the Josh Allen
7:38
piece of this. Patrick has played 20
7:40
playoff games. OK. 11
7:42
of them were what I would call easy
7:44
wins. They were leading in the fourth quarter
7:46
led the whole way. The nine
7:48
games, Colin, that
7:51
he was not that he trailed in
7:53
the fourth quarter. Six of
7:55
them, he won. One
7:58
of them, he forced.
8:00
overtime against New England never
8:02
touched the ball. Another one he
8:05
forced overtime against Cincinnati did not
8:07
come through and lost and the
8:09
other one they were down 31
8:11
to 9 against the Bucks entering
8:14
the fourth. So again and put
8:16
a little finer point on that
8:18
in his playoff career in the
8:20
fourth quarter trailing by one
8:22
score he has had 14 possessions. They
8:25
have tied or taken the lead
8:27
or taken the lead. 13 times. And
8:29
so, and the one time he
8:31
didn't, he then got the ball
8:33
back and did it. So... Do
8:35
you believe though that Andy
8:38
Reed is a prominent
8:40
part of that? A
8:42
hundred percent, absolutely, but
8:44
I also believe the
8:46
knock on Andy before
8:48
Patrick came into his
8:50
life was brilliant play
8:52
designer, but in these
8:54
exact moments I'm describing,
8:56
gets tight. and messes up
8:59
the clock or situationally isn't
9:01
buttoned up. That's how you
9:03
lose a 28-point lead to
9:05
the cults with Alex Smith.
9:07
That's how you lose an
9:09
eight and then the playoffs.
9:11
An 18-point lead to Marcus
9:13
Marioda. You know, Andy was
9:15
the chief's coach when those
9:17
things happen. So I think
9:19
it's the perfect marriage. preparer
9:22
of offense and plays and
9:24
all of it and Patrick is
9:26
the steadiest hand in the world
9:28
and so to me it's like
9:30
the the most brilliant
9:33
medical school professor pairing
9:35
up with the most naturally
9:38
gifted surgeon ever like he is
9:40
gonna give you all of the
9:42
tools and then you're gonna have
9:45
you know be the one with
9:47
the steady hand going to do
9:49
it. So that part and I
9:51
think Josh is excellent.
9:53
I also think that Josh had
9:55
the ball three and half minutes
9:58
left down three and got. 17
10:00
yards and zero points and a
10:02
year after getting the ball back with
10:04
six minutes left down three and
10:06
got 40 yards and Zero points like
10:08
that. That's not Patrick. That's not
10:10
Andy That's that's in those moment the
10:12
fourth and five play Josh was
10:14
excellent first down second down He was
10:16
not which set up the third
10:18
and ten which set up the fourth
10:20
and five Here is the
10:22
thing I want to say about the
10:24
sneaks Colin and this is where I'm
10:26
surprised more teams don't More
10:29
contending teams don't take a page out
10:31
of the chief's notebook Why
10:35
at some point during the year didn't
10:37
the bills Say
10:39
internally. Okay guys. I
10:42
think we pretty much well know how
10:44
to run this snake Can
10:47
we work on a couple other
10:49
short yardage things? Thank you. Thank
10:52
you. Hey The teams
10:54
have to prepare for other things.
10:56
Yeah, and B Even
10:59
though we've been basically undefeated
11:01
on it. If somebody has
11:03
a wrinkle that can stop
11:05
it We have a pivot point
11:07
Instead they just ran the same thing
11:09
all year because it was so
11:11
successful And that's that should be the
11:13
lesson of the chiefs the chiefs
11:15
early in the year people like oh
11:17
Kelsey's wash and it's like okay
11:19
He's obviously slowing down, but is
11:22
it is it that he's
11:24
washed or is it that they are
11:26
saying hey? It it hasn't
11:28
happened in years, but what if someone
11:30
in a playoff game takes him away
11:32
Let's make sure Xavier where he's ready
11:34
Let's make sure everybody else is ready
11:36
and then the AFC championship game He
11:39
has his worst game in five years
11:41
in the playoffs and other guys step
11:43
up if you're contending
11:45
for a championship Sometimes
11:47
preparing to win the
11:49
title is not the same as Making
11:52
sure every single possession of
11:54
my week seven game against
11:56
the Jets is at the
11:58
highest EPA And that's
12:00
where the chiefs have been brilliant,
12:03
and that's where the bills, I
12:05
think, have not been. Well, and I,
12:07
yeah, and I think to defend Josh
12:09
here, because I think he's all-time
12:12
stuff, I don't think fans understand
12:14
this. If you watched, I mean, I'm not
12:16
going to give away where I heard
12:18
this, but it comes from a good
12:20
source. Bella Czech can't even speak
12:23
offensive football. Like, defensive
12:25
coaches, they don't really understand
12:28
offensive football. That's not what they do.
12:30
And one of the things I've always
12:32
pointed to, and I think I'm the
12:34
only guy talking about this regularly, pat
12:36
myself in the back, have you noticed
12:38
how offensive coaches can rearrange the deck
12:41
chairs with an offensive line, within an off-season
12:43
and fix it? And he's done it twice.
12:45
Like, based on it two to three times.
12:47
McDadean multiple times. This year
12:49
they were terrible the first five
12:52
weeks. By the end of the
12:54
year Stafford never got touched. Defensive
12:56
coaches can't do that. Tomlands on
12:58
seven straight years of battle lines.
13:00
I mean Jeff Schwartz showed during
13:02
the playoff loss the Steelers offensive
13:05
line mayhem. They didn't know where
13:07
they were going. They were literally
13:09
often pulling to the wrong place.
13:11
Offensive coaches speak the language of
13:13
offense and the league has pivoted.
13:15
to reward them. It's almost like
13:17
if Trump, you know, when Trump
13:19
goes out and says, hey, I am pro,
13:21
you know, Bitcoin, cryptocurrency, I
13:24
am pro-crypto currency, well,
13:26
you know, that benefits people in
13:28
the industry. Like, the NFL's basically
13:30
set over the last 10 years. We're
13:32
going to go offense. We're going to
13:34
literally change the game. And so
13:37
there's a big chunk of these
13:39
defensive coaches. They don't speak it.
13:41
They don't speak it. They don't understand
13:43
the language. And what you're asking,
13:45
which is, why wouldn't they create
13:47
a second play? Well, that's not
13:49
their natural instinct. That's not who
13:51
they are. Andy Reed, in the
13:53
off-season, will send me plays. He's
13:55
working on that he found on
13:57
YouTube from Rose Bowls in the
13:59
fourth. He's like, hey, what do
14:01
you, hey, I'm not going to
14:03
tell you what I'm going to
14:06
use this. Don't share this. Look
14:08
at this play. That's not what
14:10
defensive coaches do. And I think
14:12
it's just an innate advantage. The
14:14
great. So what do you think
14:16
they should do? Because the thing
14:18
is, because, because the, I agree
14:20
with a lot of what you're
14:22
saying. Bella check took the Carolina
14:24
job. So it's not like, hey,
14:27
let's just get better situationally and,
14:29
you know, even if it's short
14:31
term, he's beaten Andy, he's beaten
14:33
Patrick. And I understand the folks
14:35
who are like, man, if it's
14:37
been this long, you haven't broken
14:39
through against this team, even if
14:41
McDermot's an excellent coach, sometimes what
14:43
happens to Mark Jackson to elevate
14:46
to Steve Kerr, he talks about
14:48
needs to happen, I get all
14:50
that. But can you take the
14:52
risk? of this part of Josh
14:54
Allen's prime of, we're handing the
14:56
reins over to a first-time unknown
14:58
head coach because he's an offensive
15:00
guy? Yeah, no, I think, listen,
15:02
I think, so was Sean McVeigh
15:05
and so was Matt LaFler. Right,
15:07
but so was all the guys
15:09
who failed. Like, you know, you
15:11
don't want to go ahead. No,
15:13
Sean McDermott. I think my comp
15:15
has always been Chuck Knox. I'm
15:17
saying, this is my age, but
15:19
Chuck Knox was known as an
15:21
organizer, highly competent, B plus coach,
15:24
Seahawks Bills. If you were a
15:26
shit show, he got you on
15:28
the right path. But he was
15:30
called Ground Chuck because the playoffs
15:32
would come and like Marty Shotner,
15:34
he got hyper conservative. And I
15:36
just think that's your fate in
15:38
life. Some people in my age
15:40
don't do social media. I think
15:43
it's a huge disadvantage. I do
15:45
a ton of social media. I've
15:47
got a tick-tock clip on Ronnie.
15:49
Today they'll get three million people.
15:51
I feed into it. I'm into
15:53
it. I love it. Not everybody
15:55
60 plus with gray hair is
15:57
into all these social media platforms.
15:59
The worst... we're in has changed.
16:02
TV doesn't drive all the business.
16:04
I'm comfortable with it. There are
16:06
other things in other industries people
16:08
aren't comfortable with. The NFL's culture
16:10
has changed. It's all offense. And
16:12
so a lot of these defensive
16:14
coaches, they're beholden to hiring the
16:16
right O.C. and the minute, you
16:18
know, Josh McDaniels and Brady leaves,
16:20
Bellow checks screwed. There's nothing he
16:23
can do. He doesn't know what he's
16:25
doing. And so I think it's just
16:27
like anything like anything like
16:29
anything. I'm watching the culture. I'm
16:31
not worried about me being good or
16:33
you after me being good. I'm not worried
16:36
about my staff. What I'm constantly
16:38
worried about in the volume is
16:40
where's the culture going? Where is
16:42
it going? I want to be ahead
16:44
of where the culture is changing. I
16:46
know my people are talented. So that's
16:49
the stuff I lose sleepover. offensive coaches
16:51
have been given the baton by the
16:53
league and defensive coaches now are trapped
16:55
they're totally beholden to hiring the right
16:58
oc and they know if he's any
17:00
good in two years he gets a
17:02
head job so it's a it is
17:04
really a disadvantage to be I feel
17:07
bad for Sean McDermott what is he
17:09
on his third or fourth oc well
17:11
right you a dable You had Dorsey
17:13
and now you have Brady. You're
17:16
on your third. So you're on
17:18
your third. No, the- And
17:20
each one's a different language?
17:22
I mean, with Andy, he's
17:24
always got the system. Correct.
17:26
And that's, well, listen, the
17:29
chiefs are, the dream scenario
17:31
is brilliant offensive head coach
17:33
paired with brilliant defensive
17:36
coordinator. who the whole league has
17:38
just decided can't be a head
17:40
coach and then it's just like
17:42
okay and we lose but for
17:45
the record this is why what Ben
17:47
Johnson did in Chicago is great
17:49
Dennis Allen's not getting a head
17:51
job he has I totally agree
17:53
with that that's exactly right
17:56
that could be his spagnolo
17:58
exactly right and he hired to
18:00
28 year old OC that nobody's
18:02
going to hire for four
18:04
years until he's 32. So basically,
18:06
Ben, I thought this was the
18:08
smartest move of all the coaches.
18:10
Ben Johnson hired two assistants will
18:13
not leave for four years. He
18:15
got he and that organization's
18:17
been all movement and chaos. And
18:19
also a similar thing might happen
18:21
for Vrable because I don't know
18:23
who's giving Josh McDaniels his next
18:25
opportunity, but it'll be a
18:27
long time. He never sold his
18:29
house there either. Right. And so
18:32
with like McDaniels, he got the
18:34
Broncos job. That didn't work. He
18:36
walked out on the Colts.
18:38
He got the Raiders job. That
18:40
didn't work. So if you're Vrable
18:42
and you're like, OK, Drake May
18:44
is the future. I don't want
18:46
Drake May to have this
18:48
rotating offensive coordinator situation. Josh McDaniels
18:51
is perfect because it what he's
18:53
probably doesn't get another head coaching
18:55
job. And if he does, it's
18:57
in like five, six, seven
18:59
years. That's right. It's one of
19:01
the sneaky. I don't want to
19:03
make commander's fans feel worse today,
19:06
but semi concerns for Jayden is
19:08
what you definitely want Jayden to
19:10
be awesome again, right? OK,
19:12
sure. If he's awesome again next
19:14
year, Cliff Kingsbury is getting another
19:16
job. It's just, you know what
19:18
I mean? Like the only way
19:20
Cliff Kingsbury, this sounds so
19:22
shitty. But the only way Cliff
19:25
Kingsbury doesn't leave Jayden Daniels in
19:27
a year is if next year
19:29
goes terribly. So that like that
19:31
is the curse of the
19:33
defensive head coach is you're going
19:35
to have to worry about that
19:37
for, you know, see to meet
19:39
CJ with the Miko. Amazing as
19:41
a rookie. People are worried.
19:43
Oh man, Bobby Slough is going
19:46
to get a head coaching job.
19:48
Then this year Slough is bad.
19:50
They get rid of him either
19:52
way. That that that turnover.
19:54
So yeah, that's why I thought
19:56
as much as I respect. for
19:58
Abel and think he's an excellent
20:01
coach. For Caleb's sake, I wanted
20:03
them to hire Ben Johnson because
20:05
the hope is he is hearing
20:07
this offensive language for the next
20:09
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20:11
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20:13
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we were the most wrong. we've
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been all football season. So
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I'll give you what it is and
26:04
why it is, and I'll let you
26:06
think. So you know this is how
26:08
I think. I love, I think it
26:10
matters. I want my quarterback to have
26:12
a little artist, but mostly be
26:15
an accountant. I want you to
26:17
go, I want you to
26:19
have kind of Matt Ryan,
26:21
Jaylon Hertz personality, Justin Herbert.
26:24
Stand up there, talk about the
26:26
team, put out fires, be in
26:28
line. Brady's as good as anybody for
26:30
as big as stars Mahomes is he
26:32
really always just says nice things
26:34
he's really he's figured out my buddy
26:37
my former intern sorry to interrupt in
26:39
Kansas City and I'm sure hates that
26:41
I always call my former intern because
26:44
he's now the afternoon drive host on
26:46
16 in Kansas City and has been
26:48
for a long time he has a
26:51
weekly interview with Patrick Mahomes and has
26:53
had it for years and God bless
26:55
Carrington Harrison who does a great
26:58
job That poor guy never ever
27:00
gets any news out of it
27:02
because Patrick says nothing. He's had
27:05
a weekly exclusive interview with Patrick
27:07
Mahomes for five years. And if
27:09
you ever played one clip of
27:11
it on your show, the answer
27:14
is probably not because Patrick is
27:16
just so trained to say nothing.
27:18
Just say absolutely nothing. But go
27:20
ahead. So. And that's how I
27:22
like my quarterbacks. I've said this,
27:25
Johnny Mansell, Baker Mayfield, James Winston,
27:27
Cam Newton. If I see ego,
27:29
if I see self-importance, if I
27:31
see Jay Cutler grumpiness, I just
27:33
do not like it and I
27:35
think of overwhelmingly been right. So
27:37
I watched Nick Sariani's opening press
27:39
conference. It's the worst I've ever
27:41
seen. He's terrible at the podium.
27:44
He wore a jersey at the
27:46
last time after last win. He's
27:48
yelled at fans. He's gone after
27:50
players and he's had position
27:52
coaches hold him back.
27:54
His methodology stinks. And
27:57
yet, they love him. And I'm
27:59
like, this is... Ridiculous. This is
28:01
the exact opposite of what I want
28:03
my coach to be. And I, so
28:05
I've come to try to figure it
28:08
out. And I went and watched in
28:10
Chicago. I went and watched the comedian
28:12
Sebastian Manicasco. Very very funny guy. Great
28:15
performer. He reminds me a lot of
28:17
Chris Rock. He's like Ali in his
28:19
prime. I mean, he's got the look,
28:21
the physicality. He's really a performer, very
28:24
funny. And a lot of his act
28:26
is his Italian family and how dysfunctional,
28:28
and how dysfunctional, and how they yell
28:31
at each other, and how they yell
28:33
at each other, each other, and how
28:35
they yell at each other, and how
28:37
they yell at each other, and, and
28:40
how they yell at each other, and
28:42
the love, and, each other, and, and,
28:44
and, and, And I've learned this, cultures
28:47
are different. There are couples that argue
28:49
and that yell at each other. And
28:51
I'm like, oh, this isn't going to
28:53
work. And they've been married 37 years.
28:56
And I imagine the makeup sex is
28:58
great. Like they just get along, it
29:00
just works. And I've come to terms
29:03
with Siriani, is that in a highly
29:05
emotional city, with a highly intense GM
29:07
and fan base and radio media that's
29:09
just barking and make... He just fits.
29:12
He is the family member. He can
29:14
handle the BS. He can handle the
29:16
noise. He sometimes he's half fan. I
29:19
Just thought this is not he's very
29:21
dependent on coordinators. Here's the thing man
29:23
Everything you're saying is fair. I still
29:25
can't get there with him like everything
29:28
you're saying true. Here's what's also true
29:30
Had they blocked Jaylon Carter, they being
29:32
the Rams. On that third down in
29:35
round two, I think it's possible he
29:37
was fired 10 days ago. If after
29:39
that, if up 13 against the Rams
29:41
with jail and hurts injured, and then
29:44
up six. when he called that that
29:46
bootleg roll play action rollout on second
29:48
and seven and that resulted in a
29:50
dozen yards and all of a sudden
29:53
stabbards driving down the field down six
29:55
chance to steal the game and they
29:57
might have gotten rid of him now
30:00
instead he's a game away from having
30:02
the greatest start to a career any
30:04
coach ever. I don't know what
30:06
to make of it. I because
30:08
everything every instinct
30:11
I have says well this guy's
30:13
just a doefist the same
30:15
but you have like if any
30:17
position should be judged
30:19
based on their record it
30:21
should be head coach and
30:23
his record is
30:25
historically good so I don't
30:27
It really tests a lot of
30:30
my beliefs of what should and
30:32
what does work in the NFL.
30:34
And so yeah, this one, I
30:37
mean this off-season, they
30:39
totally, you know, what's the word
30:41
that's always used in political
30:43
Twitter? Defenestrated him. I think
30:45
is the word. Um, they
30:48
didn't even let him pick
30:50
his own coordinators. You know
30:52
what I mean? Early in
30:54
the year, he's freaking out
30:56
yelling at his fans after
30:59
a win. Even after the
31:01
NFC championship game. Jailin hurts.
31:03
It's like, yeah, coach finally let
31:05
me out of my straight jacket.
31:07
Like that's a weird thing. The
31:09
whole so I don't know, but
31:11
they haven't lost a game. that
31:13
jail and started and finished
31:16
in four months and they're
31:18
playing in the second Super Bowl
31:20
in two years or in three
31:22
years so yeah this that one
31:25
baffles me that that's my worst
31:27
I was basically perfect on my
31:29
AFC pre-season takes and I
31:31
could not predict it's become
31:33
a very easy conference in
31:35
the standings to predict and
31:38
so I I got and I
31:40
could not have been more wrong
31:42
about the NFC. So I obviously famously had
31:44
the Bears not only making the playoffs
31:46
or winning the conference, but I also
31:48
had the Eagles missing the playoffs. I
31:50
did it. I had Washington finishing ahead
31:53
of the Eagles, and my rationale was,
31:55
man, something really weird happened last year
31:57
to that team, and I don't trust this
31:59
coach. to pull them out of it.
32:01
And I also thought Saekwan Berkeley
32:04
would be good but not great
32:06
for them, but instead Saekwan had
32:08
one of the greatest years any
32:10
running backs had in the history
32:12
of football. Yeah, no, it's, um,
32:14
yeah, I really whipped on the
32:16
NFC stuff this year. I just
32:18
got a like, and even my
32:20
gambling on the NFC was worse
32:22
this year. I do think that
32:24
there's probably a tax for me
32:26
on being so dialed in on
32:29
Kansas City that I see the
32:31
AFC a lot clearer than the
32:33
NFC. Well also in the last
32:35
11 years if you count the
32:37
Super Bowl there's been 10 different
32:39
quarterbacks from the NFC represented the
32:41
Super Bowl. Oh yeah. Yeah Jaylon
32:43
Hurts is the first in 11
32:45
years to do it twice like
32:47
you don't know who's gonna win
32:49
the NFC. I mean you know.
32:51
Yeah, so you know, because all
32:53
the Hall of Fame quarterbacks, except
32:56
for the Packers quarterback, basically over
32:58
a long period, it gets Breeze
33:00
and Rogers, were the two great
33:02
in FC quarterbacks, and then all
33:04
the other ones were in the
33:06
AFC. Can I ask you a
33:08
question? Sure, yeah, go ahead. After
33:10
this year, take this year out
33:12
of it. This group of quarterbacks,
33:14
the Mahomes, Allen, Borough, Lamar, that
33:16
group, they're all 28, 29. Let's
33:20
say optimistically, they all have 10
33:22
more good years. That's probably on
33:24
the high end, but let's give
33:26
them a decade. Ten more seasons,
33:29
the 2025 season, onward. Man. At
33:31
least one of those guys is
33:33
never making, much less winning a
33:36
Super Bowl. like moving forward. So
33:38
I know Joe's already made what,
33:40
because here's the way I was
33:43
thinking about it. I'm like, okay,
33:45
because everyone's like, do you think
33:47
Josh will eventually get one? And
33:50
intellectually, I'm like, yes, of course,
33:52
he's second best player in the
33:54
league. Of course he'll get one.
33:56
But then I'm like, well, wait
33:59
a minute. Okay, so
34:01
in the next 10 years,
34:03
let's say Patrick slows down.
34:05
He only makes four of
34:07
the next... Or Andy Reed
34:09
retires. Yeah, so let's just
34:12
say, let's say Patrick only
34:14
makes four of the next
34:16
10. So there's six. So
34:18
that's six four. Lamar, Josh,
34:20
Joe. I know you've got Justin
34:23
Herbert getting the one eventually.
34:25
Bow Knicks, CJ. CJ Stroud.
34:27
and we're talking about 10
34:29
years so it's a couple
34:31
more generations coming into the league
34:33
like these guys all of these
34:35
guys being in the AFC is
34:37
devastating for the resumes they're trying
34:39
to bill well and the one
34:41
that's in trouble is Joe Burrow the
34:44
bingles had to sell naming rights
34:46
to the stadium to pay his
34:48
contract people don't understand this the
34:50
gentleman who first of all the
34:52
bingles don't have any money they
34:55
don't have any money It's just
34:57
like the poorest ownership group.
34:59
Joe Burrow knows it. They
35:01
had to sell naming rights
35:03
to a stadium to pay
35:05
him. They started peeling off
35:07
players even before they paid
35:10
Jamar Chase. They're peeling
35:12
off of them now. They haven't
35:14
paid Jamar yet. Yeah. Yeah.
35:16
And they're already peeling
35:18
off players. They are the
35:20
opposite of the Eagles. They
35:23
are anti-risk. Pleasant, very nice
35:25
guy, got no power. I mean,
35:27
the Brown family runs the organization.
35:29
They are essentially a AAA operation
35:31
in Major League Baseball that happens
35:33
to have Joe Borough. People make
35:35
fun of the Raiders. The Raiders, because
35:37
of some new ownership groups that
35:39
have come in, are flushed with
35:41
cash. That's why they can pay
35:43
for coaches and three general managers.
35:45
They got nothing but money. Mark
35:47
Davis has nothing but money, and
35:49
the Raiders are a brand. And
35:51
also it's Las Vegas. It's a
35:53
growing city. There's real money there.
35:55
No state tax. Very attractive place.
35:58
Cincinnati. They got no money. Burrow,
36:00
they'll never have a stacked roster.
36:02
The only time to really be
36:04
great with him was when he
36:07
was on the rookie contract. When
36:09
they pay Jamal Burrow, they're out
36:11
of money. Like Joe Burrow, I
36:14
feel terrible for him. Joe Burrow
36:16
would need to be super human.
36:18
I mean this year, he was
36:21
as good as he's ever been.
36:23
They couldn't make the playoffs. Herbert's
36:25
gonna get better with Harbaugh. Like
36:28
that's gonna only get better. Right,
36:30
that's what I'm saying, like, like
36:32
you're the one in trouble. And
36:34
here's the other, here's the other
36:37
concern for all those guys. Will
36:39
they, maybe different for Joe because
36:41
he's done it, but will those
36:44
guys be able to play Patrick
36:46
Mahomes, beat him, which is part
36:48
of the hypothetical, and then psychologically
36:51
be able to re-enter and be
36:53
able to re-enter and be able
36:55
to re-enter and be able to
36:58
the Super Bowl. Not like we
37:00
like that's the thing that I
37:02
would worry about for the bills
37:04
Not I do think well listen
37:07
Mahomes is not going to go
37:09
undefeated against Allen and his career
37:11
in the playoffs They will win
37:14
But man if next year the
37:16
bills finally beat the Chiefs in
37:18
the playoffs It's gonna be really
37:21
hard to psychologically then reset me
37:23
like actually the next games the
37:25
tougher bigger one and so that's
37:28
I the we have never I
37:30
can't remember a time when it
37:32
felt this disproportionate in quarterbacking talent
37:34
conference to conference and what it's
37:37
going to mean for these guys
37:39
kind of legacies when it comes
37:41
to who they were as far
37:44
as winning players or winning championships.
37:46
So I grew up a baseball
37:48
fan but the sport It's like
37:51
what Democrats name like Bill Maher
37:53
will say the Democratic Party is
37:55
leaving me. I haven't changed. I
37:58
was a baseball guy over a
38:00
football guy when I was a
38:02
kid, and then the sport just
38:05
got slow and ponderous, and football
38:07
was just better on television, and
38:09
I've lived through TV. Like, that's
38:11
my life as a kid. I'm going to
38:14
throw something at you that I think
38:16
is going to happen, is that I
38:18
think if you take out the NFL, that
38:20
every other sport is dependent
38:23
on where the best players play, and
38:25
it does not help, for instance, college
38:27
football got. two southern and two regional
38:30
Alabama, Georgia Clemson, it hurt the sport.
38:32
Michigan and Ohio states emergence will help
38:34
the sport over time. It will bring
38:37
a big group of, I'm a West
38:39
Coast guy, I was a big 10
38:41
pack 12 guy, because the Rose Bowl.
38:44
So I'm more of a big 10
38:46
guy than an SEC guy, although I
38:48
can acknowledge the SEC's great. I think
38:51
we're gonna have a change here in
38:53
the next five to 10 years in
38:55
sports. And that is. When the regional
38:57
sports networks went away and Fox
39:00
let them go, they were out
39:02
of money an hour later, and
39:05
those were vital to
39:07
Pittsburgh's, Cincinnati, Oakland, Kansas
39:09
City, Seattle, they were
39:11
vital. Sure. The sport now is
39:14
basically in the hands of
39:16
the Dodgers, Steve Cohen, and I
39:18
mean, I'm not sure the Yankees
39:20
and the Steinbrenners can
39:23
compete. Steinbrenners are saying
39:25
they can. What you're
39:27
seeing now in baseball is all
39:30
the riveting players play for
39:32
the Dodgers, the Phillies, the
39:34
Mets, or the Yankees. And I
39:36
think we're going to have a
39:38
renaissance in baseball. Is that
39:41
with these regional networks
39:43
gone, there's not even
39:45
the forget the fake appearance that
39:47
there's parody. There are like
39:49
four kings at the top.
39:51
Everything else is upon. Nothing else.
39:54
And you think that's good for
39:56
the sport? No, no. What I
39:58
think it's good for. for is the
40:01
primary weakness of baseball, it's television
40:03
ratings. The attendance is fine. It's
40:05
always dominated the summer. It has
40:07
died on television. Last year's National
40:09
League playoffs, it was like New
40:12
York, LA, San Diego, and eight
40:14
of the best 13 players in
40:16
the sport. And that we always
40:18
think parody matters. No, it doesn't.
40:21
The truth of the matter is.
40:23
If the Celtics, Chicago Bulls, and
40:25
the Lakers were great right now,
40:27
the NBA would be in great
40:29
shape. Oklahoma City is not good
40:32
for the league. There is this
40:34
belief. This is where I always
40:36
say about Kansas City. Dinacies aren't
40:38
bad. Great players on great brands
40:41
are not bad for the league.
40:43
I think we're going to have
40:45
a renaissance. I think the Dodgers,
40:47
Steve Cohen and the Mets, the
40:49
Yankees, and maybe one other team,
40:52
will not be able to afford
40:54
the best players. That's at Philadelphia,
40:56
maybe Philly's because their attendance and
40:58
their merchandising is so strong. I
41:01
don't know about their TV radio
41:03
deals locally. Is that I think
41:05
baseball has something the NBA doesn't.
41:07
All their fascinating players. I mean
41:09
if I told you this, the
41:12
six big TV products they have,
41:14
Otani, Judge, Bryce Harper, Mookie Bets.
41:16
Yeah, no. It's all Manny Machado,
41:18
they're all in the big, they're
41:21
all in these big glossy. favorable
41:23
markets. There's my take is that
41:25
we're going to have a renaissance
41:27
that baseball is going to come
41:29
storming back. It did in the
41:32
postseason. So I think this year
41:34
is the most important year baseball
41:36
has had in a very very
41:38
long time because of two things
41:41
and you kind of alluded to
41:43
both of them. One is the
41:45
momentum of last postseason which is
41:47
absolutely tremendous and the other is
41:49
the general angst. an annoyance by
41:52
the average fan towards the NBA.
41:54
Yeah. I think that it is
41:56
incumbent upon baseball to, and I
41:58
don't have. have a listen I
42:01
haven't spent a lot of time
42:03
thinking about this so I don't
42:05
even know exactly what I mean
42:07
by this but to seize this moment
42:09
because I agree with you I mean
42:11
we did our show from the World
42:13
Series now that's because it was in
42:16
New York so it was easy to
42:18
get to but also because we were
42:20
all so into it was great it
42:22
felt like such a cool event and
42:24
it was it was so lively and
42:26
active and it made me remember when
42:28
you know and when we
42:30
when I first started it
42:33
was shortly after when you
42:35
first started was before I
42:37
even had a show we were doing
42:39
our shows from the NBA finals
42:41
even though they were not
42:43
in LA it was Warriors
42:45
Cavs every year and we
42:47
traveled to Cleveland to do
42:49
our shows because it was
42:51
such an event that I think
42:53
baseball so I was talking to
42:56
I was talking to A
42:58
mutual friend of ours, I
43:00
don't think he'll mind me
43:03
saying this, so I'll just,
43:05
yeah, I'll quote him on
43:08
it. Our friend Maverick.
43:10
And he said that the
43:12
media is moving towards
43:15
an event model, where
43:17
things have to feel like
43:20
an event. And it's why
43:22
even though... Mike Tyson 60
43:24
years old and could barely
43:27
get to the ring that
43:29
was huge it felt yeah
43:31
and the NFL every
43:33
game feels like an
43:35
event you'll have the
43:37
college football playoff is
43:39
exactly UFC feels big
43:42
event and so that's
43:44
really really hard for
43:46
baseball so you know because
43:48
there's so many games
43:51
so finding ways Maybe
43:53
it is via marketing
43:55
their stars to to
43:57
pick these benchmarks.
44:00
that are there events of the
44:02
year or marquee matchups or game?
44:04
This is where Fox gets credit.
44:06
They're the one that came up
44:08
with a London game, the game
44:10
in the cornfield. Well, yeah, the
44:13
Field of Dreams game, 100% that
44:15
felt big. That's an event, like
44:17
something cool like that, that makes
44:19
it stand out from the noise
44:21
of everything else. That's right. Yeah,
44:23
no, that was Fox, Fox. management
44:26
came and said you guys need
44:28
more big events and they work
44:30
by the way I watch the
44:32
London games they were cool it's
44:34
special field of dreams game is
44:36
cool every year it's just awesome
44:39
it looks cool it's great yeah
44:41
no I think Maverick Carter's right
44:43
on that I think there's a
44:45
lot of reasons for that but
44:47
I think you have to you
44:50
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Chiefs like I have the Dodgers
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I mean, seriously, you get down
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45:11
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Bronx. Like, everybody's great. The whole
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48:59
on this because of your, your fandom and
49:01
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49:03
them. And I made this argument that I
49:05
think I talked to an executive two weeks
49:07
ago because I had said something
49:09
on the air and he disagreed. He
49:11
goes, there's this, because I called the
49:13
bills, the chiefs without the trophies. Yeah.
49:15
And he goes, and this GM's team
49:17
played both. And he said, the
49:20
chiefs got way better players. He
49:22
said, he said, he said, Josh
49:24
Allen's great. He said, but,
49:26
and James Cook is a nice
49:29
find. He said, but none of their
49:31
receivers scare you. He says,
49:33
their defensive line doesn't have
49:35
a dominant player. Russo at Oliver,
49:37
their flashes at Oliver gives
49:39
you flashes. He said Kansas City's
49:41
linebackers are better tacklers and
49:43
faster. They've got the best corner.
49:46
They, Chris Jones is unblockable and moves
49:48
all over the line. And he
49:50
said, there's this feeling that Buffalo
49:52
and Kansas City and even
49:54
Baltimore to agree, to a degree,
49:56
it's just Mahomes is the difference. No.
49:58
And he said, He said, no,
50:01
Kansas City's got six to seven
50:03
players that Buffalo that would
50:05
start immediately for Buffalo over
50:07
players perceived as really good
50:09
players for Buffalo. So all
50:11
all just, you know, listen,
50:14
I think Patrick, if you give him a
50:17
chance, finds a way. And
50:19
I obviously Andy is, you know,
50:21
we've talked about it might end
50:23
up the greatest coach of all time.
50:25
He's certainly now on the Mount
50:27
Rushmore and moving up. But
50:30
it's also the margins
50:32
are so thin
50:34
in what makes a
50:36
good team great and a
50:39
great team legendary. So I'm
50:41
just going to go to
50:43
two seemingly innocuous
50:45
draft day transactions that
50:49
involve the Chiefs in the bills. And I'm not going to
50:51
write with both of the by the way, you're right
50:53
with both of these. So yeah. And I'm not talking about
50:55
the Chiefs trading with the bills to get my home
50:57
set that aside. Yeah. In
50:59
in 2021, after the Chiefs trade
51:02
in 2022, Chiefs trade Tyree kill,
51:04
they have the extra first round
51:06
pick. The New England
51:08
Patriots are on the clock. The bills
51:10
are drafting right after them. The
51:13
Chiefs need a corner. They're
51:15
drafting later. The bills need a
51:17
corner. The Chiefs trade up
51:19
with New England with the
51:21
express purpose of getting ahead
51:23
of Buffalo. They draft Trent
51:25
McDuffie, who now is
51:27
a two time all pro
51:29
and in my opinion, a top
51:32
four corner in the entire NFL.
51:34
University of Washington, I
51:36
watched him 25 times in
51:39
college. Spectacular player. Spectacular
51:41
player. Again,
51:43
two time not pro bowl all pro
51:46
after three years in league. The
51:48
bills still need a
51:50
corner. They got jumped. They
51:52
take Cairo Elam, who
51:55
has been at the bottom of their roster
51:57
since they took him when he got put
51:59
in the game because Ben got hurt on Sunday,
52:01
Romo basically was like, well, they're
52:03
in trouble. That happened in the
52:05
draft. Last year, in the draft,
52:07
the chiefs and the bills both
52:09
need a receiver. The bills do
52:11
not value Xavier worthy because they,
52:13
like a lot of people, by
52:15
the way, think, eh, 160 pounds,
52:17
I don't know, man. The chiefs
52:19
want him. Because Patrick really really
52:21
wants him. The bills want a
52:23
big red zone target. They want
52:25
Kian Coleman. He's going to be
52:27
there later. So they're like, I
52:29
think we were going to take
52:31
Kian here anyway, probably. Might as
52:33
well get the extra pick. Trade
52:35
with Kansas City. Can city takes
52:37
a receiver's aviore worthy? They take
52:39
Kian Komen. Man, you flip those
52:41
two players in the AFC championship
52:43
game. Buffalo wins. If the chief,
52:45
if the Buffalo is trip McDuffie
52:47
and not Kyerealum or even the
52:49
Savior worthy at a hundred yards
52:51
in a touchdown, Kiankoman had nothing.
52:53
Buffalo, see I'd push back, Buffalo
52:55
wouldn't use him like Andy Reed,
52:57
Andy Reed, because I was one
52:59
of those, he's 160 pounds, he's
53:01
a gadget guy, and he was
53:03
in the first two months of
53:05
the season. It's Andy's development of
53:07
him, I mean if you go
53:09
look at Rashi Rice, he came
53:11
in your like... And he was
53:13
awesome by the end of the
53:15
year. People are like, I talked
53:17
to Andy Reid about this today
53:19
on the show or it'll be
53:21
Wednesday if you're listing Thursday morning.
53:23
I'm like, everybody thinks college and
53:25
high school's development. I'm like, take
53:27
me through the process of how
53:29
you turn a gadget guy into
53:31
a volume guy and he just
53:34
said. We asked him to do
53:36
a bunch of stuff and not
53:38
all the players will do this.
53:40
Xavier Worthy said yes to all
53:42
the things we asked him to
53:44
do. Because Xavier Worthy, I talk
53:46
to people before the draft. I
53:48
get a lot of my opinions
53:50
and they're like, he's a gadget
53:52
guy, he's not a 12 target
53:54
guy. And he made him that.
53:56
So I don't think if, I
53:58
don't think of Xavier Worthy, I
54:00
don't think if he's in Buffalo
54:02
he ever be... comes to the
54:04
chess world. That might be true.
54:06
McDuffie I think is great anywhere.
54:08
I think he's a great player.
54:10
And so it's just the point
54:12
I'm making is like it's it's
54:14
really got to be the whole
54:16
organization. Brett Beach pulling in the
54:18
same direction if you are trying
54:20
to achieve something no team ever
54:22
has. Which what they're trying to
54:24
do. How about this? The
54:27
chiefs have made five of
54:29
the last six Super Bowls,
54:31
the Eagles and Niners, two
54:33
each, the other two winners,
54:35
rams and bucks. What do
54:37
they have in common? Uber, aggressive
54:39
GMs, all make moves at
54:41
the deadline, all trade up to
54:44
the draft, conservative teams like the
54:46
Steelers and Packers, bingles. In
54:48
the end, in personnel, they can't
54:50
keep up. Is that this is
54:53
a real thing. Look at
54:55
the trade-ups. Mahomes. Yes. McDuffie. And
54:57
this is this is why Joe
55:00
Burrow is screwed. Yeah. Look
55:02
at, look at Howie Roseman. I
55:04
mean, everybody talks about the Saekwan
55:06
Barkley move. That wasn't even
55:08
brilliant. That was an easy one.
55:11
Sure. I was like, I could
55:13
have made that move. I
55:15
mean, right. And I, I don't
55:18
want to undersell it because
55:20
again, I underestimated Saekwan. But the
55:22
risky moves are you bring up
55:25
Howie. Jaylon Carter might be
55:27
the most talented player in this
55:29
draft. He's falling because of the
55:31
off-the-field issues with the car
55:33
accident and the tragedy there. We
55:36
want him. We think he's a
55:38
superstar. We're going to trade
55:40
it up. They traded up with
55:43
Chicago. Chicago had that pick, traded
55:45
back. They take Jaylon Carter.
55:47
He's instantly, you know, the best
55:49
D tackle in the whole conference
55:52
for them. Like, yeah, that's
55:54
right. Things less needed. Jason Light
55:56
with the bucks. It really, it's
55:59
too hard. to win
56:01
championships in this
56:03
league. Yes, you need to
56:06
have a quarterback that kicks
56:08
ass almost always. You also
56:10
though need, you know, the
56:13
sharp head coach and the
56:15
forward thinking GM and the
56:17
guys, the young players to
56:19
develop, you gotta hit all
56:22
of it in quick
56:24
succession. So you know I'm moving
56:26
to Chicago here in the
56:29
spring. Have you, so, it's official.
56:31
It's official. Yeah, I bought a house.
56:33
Well, I, well, I did see that you
56:36
bought a house, but I didn't
56:38
know if you had, it's official.
56:40
Is this, is this, you're breaking the
56:42
news? No, no, first of all,
56:44
it's, I figured you and I
56:47
talk about this stuff. And so,
56:49
no, I mean, I told Fox
56:51
six months ago and Fox has
56:53
been great. Fox has been accommodating.
56:55
I know Fox knows, I'm saying, is
56:57
the audience finding this out from
56:59
you for the first time right now?
57:02
I don't know if they are, I
57:04
don't think they care because when you
57:06
watch me on TV, you don't care
57:08
where I'm at, do you? So are
57:10
you going to be, do you think
57:12
full-time Chicago? Yeah. 85% I'll come and
57:14
do a week during the football season.
57:16
in Los Angeles. I'll do a
57:18
week. Like in September I'll come
57:20
up for a week October, November
57:23
and the staff will build, you
57:25
know, we'll have a lot of
57:27
life. But 90% of my guess,
57:29
you're a great example
57:32
of my three or four
57:34
strongest guests that pop a
57:36
rating. You're one of them.
57:38
You're not live next to
57:40
me. But... The truth of the
57:42
matter is, is Brady's been
57:44
on, Drew Breeze and Hasselbeck,
57:47
they're not live, they're not
57:49
live, Cosell's not live. Coselles
57:51
not live. Coselles not live.
57:53
Coselles not live. Coselles not live.
57:55
Cuz I think my wife has
57:57
given a lot to my career
57:59
and sacrifice. I love Chicago. I've
58:01
said my two favorite cities in
58:03
the world are London and Chicago.
58:05
I like LA. My wife doesn't
58:07
like it as much. I like
58:09
LA. It's kind of spread out
58:11
for me. I kind of like
58:13
the downtown area. I like Kensington,
58:15
Patington, in London. I like kind
58:17
of urban areas where I can
58:19
just walk all day long. in
58:21
Los Angeles, I don't have that
58:23
Chicago. I can just walk downtown.
58:25
I like that. I like Florence,
58:27
Italy, London, Chicago. I like walking
58:29
around a town. You can't do
58:31
that in Houston, Atlanta, Los Angeles.
58:33
LA is just too spread out.
58:35
So I like where I live,
58:37
but it lacks that sort of
58:39
feel for me. And so I
58:41
love the city. She's got her
58:43
sister there. I've got a lot
58:46
of friends there. And I think
58:48
it's just time to help. I
58:50
think it's time to be a
58:52
better guy. I'd be a better
58:54
husband. Well, a number of things.
58:56
One is, that's touching that you're
58:58
doing this for your wife, I
59:00
think is fair to say. I
59:02
think that's great. I think it
59:04
is also exciting. You've never lived
59:06
there, correct. So like you, I
59:08
know you have an apartment there,
59:10
like you spent time, but you've
59:12
lived a lot of places, but
59:14
you've never had, you know, where
59:16
you spend the majority of your
59:18
time, be Chicago. So correct? Yeah,
59:20
I've lived in four different homes
59:22
in LA and eight years, so
59:24
I move a lot. You move
59:26
a lot? I do, I've lived
59:28
in Los Vegas, I've lived in
59:30
Tampa, I live in Los Angeles.
59:32
Now Chicago, I'm, you know what,
59:34
I, I always said, Nick, I
59:36
think it's an advantage as a
59:38
broadcaster. I think it gives me
59:40
a sense of every region when
59:42
I lived in Tampa. I had
59:44
a, I, I, motor sports, SEC
59:46
football. I didn't know the passion.
59:48
It's like, wow, for two years,
59:50
I really learned what people care
59:52
about. I, I look at it
59:54
and first of all, you know
59:56
Chicago. Chicago is one of the
59:58
great guy cities ever. great bars,
1:00:00
great steaks, great sports, great beach.
1:00:02
It's just incredible. I mean, yeah,
1:00:04
you know you're going to, you're
1:00:06
breaking our dear friend Danny Parkin's heart
1:00:08
because I saw the article because you listen,
1:00:11
you're, you know your big time when you
1:00:13
buy a house and it's a news story.
1:00:15
It's like, wow, famous broadcaster Connie Howard. I
1:00:17
hate that so much. And I know you
1:00:20
hate it, but it cracks cracks me up.
1:00:22
But because of that, not only did I
1:00:24
know you bought a house, you bought a
1:00:26
house, but I know where it. It's like
1:00:28
six minutes from where Parkins used to live.
1:00:31
And now Danny moved to Chicago. He's still,
1:00:33
you and him still, I don't think, have
1:00:35
ever met in person. You guys are gonna
1:00:37
be in person together for the first
1:00:39
time ever at the Super Bowl. But
1:00:41
it also means all see, if you're
1:00:43
in Chicago, you're going to be in
1:00:46
New York more often. Because you don't
1:00:48
come to New York ever. And I
1:00:50
now, now it's a short
1:00:52
enough flight, I can guilt
1:00:54
you into it. Yeah, our
1:00:56
wives, who have spent no
1:00:58
time together, can get together,
1:01:00
we can go to Broadway.
1:01:02
Do you, have I told you
1:01:04
this about me? That the oddest
1:01:07
thing that happened with me
1:01:09
moving to New York is
1:01:11
I found out, I absolutely
1:01:14
love Broadway. I mean, like,
1:01:16
I've seen Wicked four times. I
1:01:18
see. All the shows I don't
1:01:21
care how it sounds I know
1:01:23
people here's the thing when I
1:01:25
got to New York I'm like
1:01:28
a musical that sounds terrible who
1:01:30
it right and then you go
1:01:32
and it's like oh This is really
1:01:34
like having courtside seats to the
1:01:37
NBA in that yeah, you're this
1:01:39
close and these are the best
1:01:41
in the world at what they
1:01:44
do Yeah, performing live and so
1:01:46
That's like the food and Broadway
1:01:48
or what I love about New
1:01:50
York more than anything. But uh,
1:01:53
but so you'll be a
1:01:55
little closer. That's exciting. Congratulations.
1:01:57
It also means FS1 is now
1:01:59
like, we're. We're in New York, Chicago,
1:02:01
L.A. That was need a foothold in
1:02:03
Denver or something. I don't know. No,
1:02:06
that was my pitch. I said, Fox
1:02:08
News, nobody's in New York, and they're
1:02:10
all over the country. Why us, F.S.
1:02:12
1 have to all be in L.A.
1:02:15
And my take was, we don't have
1:02:17
a show in the middle of the
1:02:19
country. Why not? Yeah, that was, that
1:02:22
was your pitch was probably like, like,
1:02:24
this is really what I want to
1:02:26
do. No, I... That's exciting man. I'm
1:02:28
really happy for you. You've been talking
1:02:31
about this for a while. And so
1:02:33
I'm really happy that's finally happening. Yeah,
1:02:35
so I guess I am announcing it.
1:02:38
It is, and for the record, my
1:02:40
employers have both been amazing. They both
1:02:42
said, what do you want? We'll build
1:02:44
you a studio. So the thing about
1:02:47
Fox Sports, Fox Sports, I don't know,
1:02:49
there's an ownership position with the Big
1:02:51
Ten. Yeah. Not to bore people with
1:02:54
it, but there's certain things in television
1:02:56
called fibers. And because Fox and the
1:02:58
Big Ten building and the Fox LA
1:03:00
building have similar or share fibers, it's
1:03:03
a really easy transition. Oh, okay. So
1:03:05
I didn't, I, for the record, so
1:03:07
the audience doesn't feel out of the
1:03:10
loop, I, I have no idea what
1:03:12
these fibers are. So I didn't know
1:03:14
what you just said, I didn't know
1:03:16
the audience, no, I didn't know. But,
1:03:19
no, I did figure, when you were
1:03:21
first bringing this, bringing this up, I
1:03:23
didn't know exactly how you're going to
1:03:25
pull it off, but I assumed Chicago
1:03:28
was easier than if you're like, guys,
1:03:30
my wife desperately wants to live in
1:03:32
St. Louis, let's figure it out. Like
1:03:35
Chicago's a huge city, the big tens
1:03:37
there. Do you think you'll go? You'll
1:03:39
go to more college football games, being
1:03:41
right there. Well, I'm already a Bulls
1:03:44
and Blackhawk season ticket holder, so I
1:03:46
bought a sweet. at the basketball arena.
1:03:48
So I go to, you know, so
1:03:51
I told Ann, I said, we're going
1:03:53
to move to Chicago and just. to
1:03:55
show you my commitment to you and
1:03:57
the city, we're going to go to
1:04:00
stuff a lot. So every time we
1:04:02
go, I mean, every other night, we
1:04:04
go to an event, we go to
1:04:07
a place downtown, we'll go watch music,
1:04:09
do whatever we do. So, and I
1:04:11
gotta tell you something, you know how
1:04:13
you said you've discovered that you love
1:04:16
Broadway, and Broadway is amazing. I have
1:04:18
found that. a promise to my wife.
1:04:20
I said, the next 20 years, we're
1:04:23
gonna go minimum once a year. I
1:04:25
love that. And I gotta be honest
1:04:27
with you, Nick. You know what I
1:04:29
really love? I like going out at
1:04:32
night. I never thought I was go
1:04:34
out at night guy. If I could
1:04:36
go out every single night, every god
1:04:39
damn night, I would. I love. That's
1:04:41
remarkable. All right, so I wouldn't have
1:04:43
thought that either, because I am. I'm
1:04:45
not as much the club guy as
1:04:48
I used to be, but let's not
1:04:50
talk in clubs. I know you're not,
1:04:52
I'm talking about me, but the, I
1:04:55
met my wife, she was a club
1:04:57
promoter, is how we met, and so
1:04:59
she and I used to go out
1:05:01
all the time to clubs, now we're
1:05:04
more the very late dinners. Like last
1:05:06
night, we had a night, it was
1:05:08
a Tuesday, whatever last night was, we
1:05:10
had a nine o'clock dinner reservation, some
1:05:13
Italian place in New York, so I'm
1:05:15
Italian place in New York, so I
1:05:17
totally get that. So here's an added
1:05:20
benefit, whether you're thinking about it or
1:05:22
not. Even though your show's on at
1:05:24
the same time, for you, it's two
1:05:26
hours less. Angelus is really full of
1:05:29
unbelievable people. And secondly, Chicago. Chicago is
1:05:31
such a cool town. The architecture, the
1:05:33
people, I still don't think they've totally
1:05:36
recovered from COVID. I think Michigan Avenue
1:05:38
feels a little less active than it
1:05:40
was, but I don't know it well
1:05:42
enough to have big strong opinions. I
1:05:45
don't know how New York feels. I
1:05:47
think COVID beat up some Midwest towns
1:05:49
more than others. But I think it's,
1:05:52
I think, you know, people, you know,
1:05:54
McIntyre is always like, oh, it's cold.
1:05:56
I'm like, dude, they're called, they're called
1:05:58
coats, I can't. take like you live
1:06:01
in Houston I couldn't take that heat
1:06:03
I can take cold I grew up
1:06:05
in Seattle. I mean listen the winter
1:06:07
winters in Chicago weather wise or
1:06:10
rough but there's there's a trade
1:06:12
off to everything and so I
1:06:14
agree with you on that there there
1:06:16
are certain cities that become just
1:06:19
avatars for political points people are
1:06:21
trying to make yes and so
1:06:23
like San Francisco has become one
1:06:25
in certain ways Chicago forever has
1:06:27
been one to and because of
1:06:30
that it has gotten listen it
1:06:32
is it's one of the just
1:06:34
objectively one of America's finest
1:06:36
cities and if you're one of
1:06:39
America's finest cities not to sound
1:06:41
all Uber patriotic you're one of
1:06:43
the finest cities in the world
1:06:45
and so and if you're a big obviously
1:06:48
like you know you want to spend
1:06:50
more time going to Europe it's not
1:06:52
the biggest difference in the world but
1:06:54
it is a considerably easier flight.
1:06:57
Like Chicago there from LA there
1:06:59
is a difference. It's why like
1:07:01
my wife we spent last year
1:07:03
after the Super Bowl we went
1:07:05
to Tokyo and then went Tokyo
1:07:07
South in Japan and I truly
1:07:09
think it was the greatest trip
1:07:11
my wife's ever been on. She
1:07:13
loved it so much. It just feels
1:07:15
almost prohibitive because it's like
1:07:18
man it's six hours. Flying
1:07:20
and you're still in the US like they're
1:07:22
from New York there like it is a
1:07:25
brutal and Europe so easy from here So
1:07:27
that's great man, and I'm glad I'm honored
1:07:29
you got you announced it with me This
1:07:31
is gonna you know, the trades are gonna
1:07:34
have a big field day with this. Oh
1:07:36
are you guys are con coward moving Chicago?
1:07:38
Oh, by the way, sweet, sweet little kind
1:07:40
of flex on the, I already have a
1:07:43
sweet at the United Center. My goodness gracious.
1:07:45
Well, that wasn't it. That was my wife.
1:07:47
I promised my wife, I said, because she
1:07:50
said, you're never going to leave LA. You love
1:07:52
LA. And I said, no, I have friends. I love,
1:07:54
I love my little clubs I go to,
1:07:56
my little, my little places with my
1:07:58
buddies, my buddy David. sleigh who owns
1:08:00
restaurants in Manhattan Beach. I love the
1:08:03
people. And I do think the weather
1:08:05
is nice, although I will tell you
1:08:07
where I live is by the water.
1:08:10
It gets cold in LA in the
1:08:12
winter a lot. My car was, it
1:08:14
was 41 degrees when I pulled out
1:08:17
this morning. I wouldn't, that's not an
1:08:19
art. You say that and people in
1:08:21
Chicago are like, my car literally froze.
1:08:23
They're like, nobody wants to hear the
1:08:26
41 degrees. But listen, you're entering it.
1:08:28
That's great. And I told Anne, I
1:08:30
said, I'm going to commit to the
1:08:33
city, I'm going to commit to tickets,
1:08:35
and we're going to go to events
1:08:37
and comedy shows. We've seen John Malaney
1:08:39
and Sebastian Manicaoco, and we're going to
1:08:42
go to anybody that's in town, and
1:08:44
I love the people. And it's funny,
1:08:46
the life I've lived, not to board
1:08:49
people, but it's a tradeoff. It would
1:08:51
be awesome to live on the same
1:08:53
street for 45 years, and literally know.
1:08:56
I've followed commerce, I've bounced all over
1:08:58
the country, and there's some advantages and
1:09:00
disadvantages to it. But I'm so excited
1:09:02
to live in the Midwest, to live
1:09:05
in a great great city, next to
1:09:07
cousins. I'm fired up. And my son
1:09:09
wants to go to North Western here
1:09:12
in a couple years, maybe, so. That's
1:09:14
all. Well, congratulations. You deserve it and
1:09:16
it's fantastic. I could think a no
1:09:19
better way to go ahead. You're a
1:09:21
Kansas City kid. You've lived in New
1:09:23
York. It's been an amazing experience. Oh
1:09:25
yeah, and no, I've lived, I've lived,
1:09:28
Kansas City, Houston, Los Angeles, New York.
1:09:30
I've lived, you know, geographically, never SEC,
1:09:32
and never Pacific Northwest, but everywhere else
1:09:35
I feel like I kind of have
1:09:37
a feel for. Yeah, I think it's
1:09:39
one of the cool parts about the
1:09:41
job is being able to have lived
1:09:44
different places. I am I think, and
1:09:46
then I know we have to go.
1:09:48
I think the next place all live
1:09:51
is Vegas. I think that the because
1:09:53
my wife wants to open a store
1:09:55
in Vegas and I obviously have you
1:09:58
know a lot of connections to poker
1:10:00
and stuff and so I yeah the
1:10:02
I think that all do you know
1:10:04
my youngest is in sixth grade and
1:10:07
so all you know I plan to be in New York
1:10:09
for the bulk of if not the entirety of my 40s
1:10:11
but if I were to leave New York um I think Vegas
1:10:13
is where I is the place I think I think I
1:10:15
think I think I think I is the place I think
1:10:17
I think I think I think I think I think I
1:10:19
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1:10:21
I think I think I think I think I think I think
1:10:24
I think I think I think I think I think I
1:10:26
think I think I think I think I think I think
1:10:28
I Well I lived there for seven
1:10:30
years. I lived there when there
1:10:32
was still mobsters, remnants of mobsters.
1:10:35
It's a very corporate town. It's
1:10:37
an incredible food city. Yeah. Incredible.
1:10:39
And it's even gotten better. Yes.
1:10:41
All the restaurants are there now
1:10:44
because of the casinos. Yeah. Nick Wright.
1:10:46
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1:10:48
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1:10:50
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1:10:53
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